1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes people get sick ladies and gentlemen. 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: Happens. Sometimes they get a touch of the cold. 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Or the flu, or, in the case of Fingers Molloy, meningitis. 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: No way, I mean ginger bitis. Meningitis will be a 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: serious issue. 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 3: Fingers, focus on men, manly, that's what we're doing here, right, No. 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: You sound throaty see drink smoke. Sorry, I'm Tony Katz. 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Maloy. 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: And because he's got some kind of creeping crud that 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: hasn't stopped him from looking magnificent in his shadowy, shadowy cave. 11 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: We had to be in separate locations today in order 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: to do the show. 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: I feel bad about this, Fingers. 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: No, you don't. Let's be honest here. You told me 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: not to show up at the Eat, Drink Smoke studios 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: because you said, oh, I don't want to get sick. 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: When when when I have a vacation to go on 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: to Vegas. Now I ask you, would you let anybody 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: get in the way of your time in Las Vegas. 20 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 3: It's impossible to be sick in Las Vegas. Once you 21 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: show up and you have your first makers Mark on 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: the rocks. All of the germs, the bacteria, the bacteria germs, 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: they all go away. 24 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: All the bacteria, germs go away. 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: All go away. And what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: and what happens outside of Vegas stays outside of Vegas. 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 3: That's how it works. 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 2: We are smoking the l ray Domundo. 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: This right here is called the appointment interesting interesting stick 30 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: where the rapper is made by Christian Aroa and then 31 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: the rest of the cigar is OURDM. 32 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: This is a gordo. 33 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: This is a five by sixty, which means it's five 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: inches long. 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: D Oh my god, oh you sound bad. 36 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: You see, usually I say cigar is five inches long, 37 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: and fingers will ay all go tee, and because it's 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: kind of funny to him and it makes him laugh 39 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: and it's always hilarious. 40 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: And now now you just sound like just a chess 41 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: cold right. 42 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 3: Who knows? You know? It was odd oddly enough, you know, 43 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: I was speaking to missus malloy earlier and it said, 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: I go get like one of those those COVID tests. No, 45 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: And then she said, well what do you do with that? 46 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: Right? 47 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 3: Like? What am I gonna do with that? What are 48 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: you gonna do with that, So I just continued to 49 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 3: lay in bed and moan. 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: So the cigar is five inches and the ring gage 51 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: is a sixty six zero, So that's a diameter of 52 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: the cigar or how thick it is around. 53 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: Te Glad we got past this part. 54 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: A sixty four ring gauge would be a full one 55 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: inch rounds, I will tell you right now, not my 56 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: ring gauge, not how I work. And yes, indeed I 57 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: am the only one smoking because fingers if he does, 58 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: he'll he'll immediately die. 59 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: Well that and unfortunately I do not have the ability 60 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: to smoke indoors when it's well. Actually, today in Central Indiana, 61 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: the weather isn't all that bad as far as temperature goes. 62 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: You know, we got a lot of rain, but it's 63 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: still if you if you had a covered porch or 64 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 3: smoke in the garage with the door open, it wouldn't 65 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: be all that bad. I think it's still in the 66 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 3: high thirties, low forties. 67 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. When you plant your beanstalk, 68 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: how tall does it grow? 69 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: Wow? What? Seriously? This is once again showing ladies and 70 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: gentlemen just how close of a friend Tony Katz is 71 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: he enjoys seeing me in pain. He he loves seeing 72 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: me uncomfortable. 73 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: Not true, not true. 74 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: This has me concerned in many ways, mostly for the show, right, 75 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: I gotta make sure that that's always doing all right. 76 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: Well, I do feel bad that you know, here you are, 77 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: you're trying to light up your cigar, you know, to 78 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: give each rink, smoke nation, your thoughts, your impressions on 79 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: the first third of the stick. And I'm not there 80 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: to help you and to smoke a cigar because I can't. 81 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: But that don't don't ever force yourself, which is key 82 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: and fundamental. This is a Cameroon wrapper that's done by 83 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: a roa broad leaf USA Connecticut broad leaf in of 84 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: the binder filler, and Honduras and Nicaragua. So this is 85 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: hey you, first of all, that's lovely, man, holy cow, 86 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: it's a mix of things. I love Cameroon, love Connecticut 87 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: broad leaf, love Honduras and Nicaragua. 88 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: We're friends. We'll see how it goes. 89 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: Excellent draw the wrapper itself. A little bit of oil 90 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: on this, but definitely bumpy. If you could take a look, 91 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: you can like see every single part of that right there, 92 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: every last little bit of this of this wrapper. 93 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: But it's beat band too. 94 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the band is in the in the purple and gold, 95 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: and it's called the Appointment. It comes in a bunch 96 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: of different batolls that it's a five y fifty robusto. 97 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: There's a six x fifty four toro as well, but 98 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: this is the gordo, a lot of half as you 99 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: can imagine in a sixty ring gauge. They will tell 100 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: you that it comes across as a medium on first puff. 101 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: Right here, I would think that they're accurate. Get your notebook. 102 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: What'd you eat today? What'd you drink today? 103 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 3: Right? 104 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: That matters? 105 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: And the weather right now, fingers is right. The cold 106 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: has broken. We've gotten over forty degrees. It won't be 107 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: that way for long. It's not gonna be that way 108 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: for long. And we will see temperatures because it's the 109 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: Midwest that hit negative seventy two thousand. 110 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: It's gonna be very, very chilly. 111 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: But you want to take the cigar, break it up 112 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: at the thirds, yes, even a robusto at five inches long, 113 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: first third, second, third, final third? And what is the 114 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: flavors you're getting out of each third of the cigar? 115 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: Write those down in your notebook. What'd you eat, what 116 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: did you drink? That's gonna happen a effect on your palette. 117 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: And then when you try the cigar a month from now, 118 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: six months from now, whatever it is, you go back, 119 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: you do the same thing, and you check your notes. 120 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,119 Speaker 1: You kind of get you through line. You're the idea 121 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: of where you are with the cigar. 122 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: Um. 123 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: This is unbelievably rich. There's a lot happening within this cigar. 124 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: It is rarely do I say that a cigar has 125 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: that bourbonesque kind of caramel going on in it, But 126 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: that's their fingers. 127 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. The other thing that I'm actually kind 128 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 3: of surprised that you have this in your human or 129 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: because this ring gauge is not something that you're normally into. 130 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't do sixties and I don't do robustos. Both 131 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: things are not my things. But what do we do here? 132 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: Fingers boy? 133 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 3: We try new things, that's right. 134 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: We do people's taxes incorrectly, we also try new things, 135 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: and so that's that's what this is for us. So 136 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: I have one for you waiting for you. There's a 137 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: little bit of caramel, There's a little bit of there. 138 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: There's definitely a seed going on, and I think those 139 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: two things are giving a very very unique richness to 140 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: this cigar right here. 141 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: This is a it's a nice presentation. 142 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: Now, I would rather have gotten this as a toro 143 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: and had six inches to work with and because that's 144 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: more of where my my. 145 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: My palette goes into, more of my time goes. But 146 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: this from L ray Do Mundou. 147 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: This is the appointment cigar fingers Willowy coming in at 148 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: eight dollars and fifty cents. 149 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: And the answer is, I don't know yet. How would 150 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: I know? 151 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: I just lit this up. My my knowledge base of 152 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: Lraya Mundeu is limited, and that's that's being kind. But 153 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: I love the fact. 154 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: That a roa is connected. 155 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: I totally dig the Connecticut broad leaf underneath. There's nothing 156 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: here that would ever keep me shying away. I want 157 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: to try every single bit of this. 158 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: Now. I know you're not gonna be able to smoke 159 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: with me. Are you're gonna be able to drink with me? Fingers? 160 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: Yes, yes I am. And unfortunately I do not have 161 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: honey for a hot toddy, so that's out the window. 162 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: But I do have a holiday classic that I will 163 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: be enjoying it in the second hour of the show. 164 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: Is that a Jamoka shake from Urby's. 165 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: No, it's not. But now you've got me door dashing 166 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: as we speak Jamocha shakes. 167 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: You can't you cannot go wrong. Al Ray del Mundo, 168 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: we're doing the appointment cigar. There is drinking to be done, 169 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: and fingers will hopefully feel better. I tell you that 170 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: some things are not necessary. 171 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: They're not. 172 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: When I say they're not necessary, it's it's not that 173 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: you might not think them necessary. You may absolutely love it. 174 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is you're wrong. 175 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: It's totally not necessary. 176 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: It's eat, drink, smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That is America's 177 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: favorite amateur drinker. Fingers molloy and fingers. They've got there 178 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: at at the news site there that you found all 179 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: about Amazon. 180 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: It's about Amazon dot Com. 181 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: Prime Video introduces a dedicated news destination for customers. Oh gosh, 182 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: I thought they were I thought they were getting into 183 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: the news business. 184 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, what the hell are we doing here? 185 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: Why would they get? Amazon likes to be financially successful, right, 186 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: so who he needs getting into who needs getting into 187 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: the news business in twenty twenty five? So no, they're 188 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: gonna be like a hub Tony an aggregator. Perhaps, Yes, 189 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: they're going to offer several different networks their content. Geez, 190 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: you go over a lot of it, BBC News, five News, 191 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: you know, ABC News, CBS and so obviously it makes 192 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: a lot of sense, right, I mean, you're you're Amazon. 193 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: You don't want people leaving Amazon Prime to go somewhere 194 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: else to look at their content. You know. If you, oh, geez, 195 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 3: I want to know what's going on with the news, 196 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 3: I'll go over to the ABC app. Well, then you 197 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: get sucked into ABC's content. If you can keep all 198 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: that on Amazon Primes app, then it makes good business sense. 199 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 2: But how I don't know how it works. 200 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: If you are let's say, ABC, which is Disney, why 201 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: would you even let them aggregate your content? 202 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 3: The only thing I can think of is h Amazon 203 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: paid them a pretty penny to allow that to happen. 204 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: I mean, Amazon's got deep pockets, right, They're throwing money 205 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: around everywhere. Oh yeah, it's the NFL coverage or you know, 206 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: they they they're a major player. So with some of 207 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: these networks that are struggling, why not see the handwriting 208 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: on the wall and let Amazon invest some money to 209 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: prop them up? 210 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: As My mema always said bezos money is good money. 211 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 3: Really. 212 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, used to say it all the. 213 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: Time, all the time. Oh that mema of mine. I 214 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: miss her very much. Meanwhile, if people go to Amazon, 215 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: probably one thing, and that is for gifts and things 216 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: you don't need, and gifts you shouldn't actually buy people 217 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: because you don't like them. 218 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: Anyway, you're not kidding. You know what I did the 219 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 3: other day? So I needed to pick up a quick Gosh, 220 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: what did I need? And I got it at Amazon, 221 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 3: and they I was three dollars short of getting the 222 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: free delivery. So you bought brand new car socks, picked 223 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: up some socks that you know, who doesn't need more socks? 224 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: When you're above the age of thirty. Below the age 225 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 3: of thirty, you get socks for Christmas. It's a disappointment. 226 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: After the age of thirty, you're thrilled. I spent seven 227 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: ninety nine on some athletic socks so I can get 228 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: free delivery. So I spent more. Uh, but at least 229 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 3: I got some socks out of it. 230 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: Do you do you are you of the of the 231 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: of the persuasion where you wear socks around the house, 232 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: you barefoot around. 233 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: The house, oh, socks around the house. 234 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, is that because you get cold or it's just 235 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: because you know you have very unattractive feet? 236 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: And who needs that? 237 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 3: I was a foot model in college, Is that right? 238 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 3: How dareusir make judgments about how my feet look when 239 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: you haven't seen them, and we're going to continue to 240 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: make sure you don't see them. 241 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: Because you have said that because you have hideous feet? 242 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: Are you? Are you like one of these feet phobic folk. 243 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: I don't understand the foot of the people who are intefeet. 244 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: Oh you're not just talking about like okay with feet, 245 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: you're talking about like into feet. 246 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, like in yes, deep in, Yeah, I don't I'm 247 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 3: down to the arches. Yeah. I don't understand people that 248 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: like to get foot massages either. I don't understand that either. 249 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: I don't anybody touching my feet. 250 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: I my wife, who is perfect, loves it, loves it, 251 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: loves it. 252 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: Wait, loves rubbing your feet. 253 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: No, no, no, she likes getting foot rubs, love loves 254 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: like And I'm not freaked out my feet, So I'm like, sure, 255 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: if you touch. 256 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: My feet, I'm gonna have to explain to a judge 257 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: while I killed you. 258 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, see, thank you. 259 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: And I'm going to look at the judge and I'm 260 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: gonna say, come on and immediately not guilty. Yeah, I'm 261 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: gonna be awarded damages. 262 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 2: I I don't know how people do it. 263 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: I get that some dungeon feet are tired, and I 264 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: get that you would you would like to be able 265 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: to stretch them out and get the get some relaxation 266 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: and kind of break up the tension, But then somebody 267 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: else has to touch them at that moment. I'm a 268 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: giggly school girl and I am in violent pain at 269 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: the same. 270 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 3: Time miser experience. But you know, Tony, I say it 271 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: all the time. When your feet hurt, you hurt all over. Seriously, 272 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: I say that all the time. Is that what do Yeah, 273 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 3: that's for a commercial from the nineteen eighties. It always 274 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 3: stuck with. 275 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: Me, thank you. But I'm glad I've. 276 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: Said that I don't want anybody touching my feet. 277 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: There are gifts. 278 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: You probably get a foot massage over there at I'm now, wait, 279 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: can you go the foot massager? 280 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 281 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: That's different, stupid, right, It totally is. 282 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Because my brother, the good uh doctor Katz got 283 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: me one and I was like, first of all, I 284 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: don't know where this was on sale, but thanks, And 285 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: second I tried it once, I'm like, okay, that feels good. 286 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: And then my youngest stole it. I've never seen it 287 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: again because my youngest is also fantastic kid. 288 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: But wherever that kid's feet have been, I want nothing 289 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: to do with it. 290 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: Well, but that's ridiculous because let's face it, he's in 291 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 3: the grand scheme of things. He's brand new, he shouldn't 292 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: need he should not need any kind of contraption to 293 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: help with foot pain. He's just breaking those puppies in. 294 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: Why on earth does he need to steal you your 295 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: foot massage machine? Oh my god, I would be outraged. 296 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: I fower you outraged, I tells you. 297 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: Oh I just turned twelve colors of red. 298 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: Oh oh, if you see the video this, I that 299 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: was as close to a heart attack. Because I'm going 300 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: to hopefully ever get anyway you can get a gift 301 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: f under one hundred dollars from Amazon. I'm trying to 302 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: tell this story for a month. 303 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: Now. What do I have here on this list? Fingers molloy? 304 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: Okay, First of all, the Stanley Quencher H two O 305 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: tumblr with handle and straw forty ounces, forty five bucks 306 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: on Amazon, Tony, this is a question that has plagued 307 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: men for decades. Drinking out of a straw out of 308 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: a tumbler? For a man, that's is that acceptable? 309 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: Are you saying that you would not drink out of 310 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: this right here, fingers, my lawyer, Are you saying that 311 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: you wouldn't have yourself in in a nice coral color 312 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: or orange? 313 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: The uh, the the the the. 314 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: The quencher of of of choice here? 315 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: If I could drink out of the lid, sure, but 316 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 3: a straw? Eh? 317 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: All right? 318 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: What about you? What do you? How do you feel 319 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: about the straw tumbler combination? 320 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: Oh, it's ridiculous and you're a child, thank you. The 321 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: whole thing is is is nuts. 322 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: What am I drinking out of that Caprice Sun? Is 323 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: that what I'm doing? 324 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: Yes, fingers, you're drinking Caprice Sun out of that gosh. 325 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: Uh? 326 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: There they are also selling right here. I'll share with you. Uh, 327 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: they have got the what they call the Cussini or 328 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: is that especially like Cuisini flameless tabletop indoor marshmallow roaster. 329 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: So you can make this was at popular Mechanics dot com. 330 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: See you can make your own s'mores. 331 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: Or you can make friends with your local fire department 332 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: right immediately. 333 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: That's not a gift. That's a hey, I forgot about you. 334 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: Here you go. 335 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 3: That is a regift. 336 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 2: Yes, that is the fruitcake of gifts, eat. 337 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: Drink smoking is your cigar bourbon food, the extravaganza on 338 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: Tony Katz. And that is an unhealthy fingers maloy suffering 339 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: from the creeping crud, a chest cold that prevents him 340 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: from enjoying a fine cigar fingers How are. 341 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 3: You right now? First of all, evergreen with unhealthy fingers maloy, 342 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 3: But it actually has to do with some sort of 343 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 3: virus or bacteria or whatever else it could be. But anyway, 344 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: it's in my chest and it's not going away. And 345 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 3: you said, and rightly, so I understand I gave you 346 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 3: a crap a little earlier. But who needs someone coming 347 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 3: into your studio coughing all over the place, right on, 348 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 3: all over your stuff? So no, I'm fine. The only 349 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 3: thing that stinks, though, is I'm not able to enjoy 350 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: this cigar that you are. 351 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: Yes, the lray de mundo, this is the appointment. 352 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: There's actually a little bit of spice that is building 353 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: up on this doing this in the Gordo A five 354 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: by sixty. Absolutely not my my ring gauge, Absolutely not 355 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: my size. Man, this is a very very worthwhile bit 356 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: of cigar. There is more heat on this than I expected. 357 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: It started with this caramel and this seedar, and the 358 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: cedar is now getting spicier and that's hitting the like 359 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: the side of the of the throat. It is smoking beautifully. 360 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: It is not the. 361 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: Prettiest cigar, I will not lie. It's not the prettiest 362 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: wrapper at all. But at eight dollars and fifty cents 363 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: a stick, allow me to say, yes, right now, I 364 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: think people are gonna flip over this. I I've got 365 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: another one for you. I'm trying to remember where I 366 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: bought it. I don't one hundred percent remember right now. 367 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: Oh wait, now I do, Now I do. I got 368 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: these here in Indianapolis town called Fishers, at a cigar 369 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: lounge called Cigar Haven is where I got them. Um, 370 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: this is this is gonna make some people's lists. Here's 371 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: there's a there's a nice smoothness going on. That spice 372 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: is built up in it in a very very joyous way. 373 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: It is medium body. Yeah, let me say it again. Yeah, 374 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: this is all right. Fingers wointed. 375 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 3: Now forgive me if you you already explained this and 376 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 3: I just missed it because I'm under the weather. And 377 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 3: that's what I'm going to blame everything on if I 378 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: make a mistake last week. Does that come in another vatola? 379 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you can get this as a robusto five 380 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: by fifty. You can get this as a toro as well, 381 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: which I think is a six by fifty. I think 382 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: they do it as a fifty four. Yeah, six by 383 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: fifty four, which I would love to see this cigars 384 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: at six by fifty four. I cannot wait to try. 385 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: This is impressive. 386 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 3: Are you surprised at how much the spice is picking 387 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 3: up on that? 388 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 2: I am. I am surprised that there is spice on 389 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: it right that. 390 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: I think that more than anything else, I'm surprised there's 391 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: a level of spice in the slightest l Ray del Mundo, Cameroon, 392 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: A rapper coming out of Honduras, Connecticut. Broad leaf there 393 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: in the binder. Ecuadorian in Nicaraguan. Oh, it's Ecuadorian in Nicaraguan. 394 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: Wait a second, I know it's it's nick Honduran and 395 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: Nicaraguan in the filler. 396 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 2: Is the way I have this. 397 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I take that back, that's wrong. It's Ecuadorian Nicaraguan. 398 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: I apologize as. 399 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit surprised by the level of spice here, 400 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: but it's being balanced nice. This is a. 401 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: If the spice continues to pick up, the cigar is 402 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: going to give me an issue. But at this stage, 403 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: right now, there is a lot of good happening for 404 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: eight dollars and fifty cents. 405 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: It's crazy, Yes, it's crazy. That's well, I'm good. I'm 406 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: hoping that it will you'll continue to enjoy it and 407 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 3: it won't be off putting as you get into the 408 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 3: second third and the final third of this. 409 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: You have any get out, I can get a box. 410 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 3: Well, get through that one first before you decide to 411 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: get a box. But uh, that's that's good. I mean, 412 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: we've we've talked about this for a long time, how 413 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: it's getting harder and harder to find that kind of 414 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: stick under ten. So at eight fifty, that's that's wonderful 415 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: to hear. 416 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: I will pick up some toros. I will get some 417 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: toros and see what we could do with that. But 418 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: it's time fingers maloy for news of the week. 419 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: So you know, Tony, we have been documenting the problems 420 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 3: over at Spirit Airlines now for quite some time. It 421 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 3: feels like it's been a couple of years now. They've 422 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 3: transferred Spirit Airlines the Chicago airport gates to American Airlines 423 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 3: for thirty million dollars. 424 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 2: Does that seem like a lot to you? Thirty mili? 425 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: I wondered if it was enough. Well, but it's only 426 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 3: according to Reuters, it's only two airport gates to American Airlines, 427 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 3: So maybe, yeah. 428 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: But it's gate space. Now. Wait, so Spirit O'Hare or 429 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: Spirit Midway, So. 430 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: It's O'Hare International Airport. 431 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: Okay, so you have two more slots at one of 432 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: the busiest airports in the world. 433 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: Like, okay, you know what, I'm totally wrong. 434 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of this as Spirits basically having a fire sale. 435 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: They're out of business. They're lucky to get anything. This 436 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: is prime real estate. It's like buying a liquor license. 437 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: I assume that's the way it works. Two more spots, 438 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: how many flights is that per day? How many options 439 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: is that per week, per month? And the dollars just 440 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: you know, generates itself, and especially for a place like 441 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: American because O'Hare I believe is a United hub, So 442 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: this I think gives American some more opportunities that way. 443 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe it isn't Midway Southwest. 444 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: Yes, Midway is Midway is all Southwest. It's great, it's 445 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: a fine airport. It's interesting because my first reaction was. 446 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 2: Thirty million dollars. 447 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: It's yeah, who is who's giving Spirit Airlines thirty million dollars? 448 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: No? No, no, the buy in real estate. 449 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is part of of its network optimization. Spirit 450 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 3: determined it no longer needed all four preferential gates at 451 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 3: Chicago O'Hare International Airport, but it will retain two gates 452 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 3: while assigning two gates to American airlines, so Spirit will 453 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 3: still have a footprint at O'Hare, according to Reuters. But 454 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: it's interesting because I was looking to fly down to 455 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 3: Florida Fort Myers and Spirit used to from I was 456 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: looking for a flight from Indianapolis. Used to offer flights 457 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: from Indianapolis directly to Fort Myers, and that no longer exists, 458 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 3: apparently because I looked and I could not find anything 459 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 3: from Indianapolis to Fort Myers through Spirit. 460 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm not here to bad talk to them, even though 461 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: we did have that bad flight. I'm saying that to 462 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: play to get on a flight, to buy a ticket 463 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: on Spirit Airlines is to play a See. I was 464 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: gonna use an expression, but I think I'll get in 465 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: trouble if I used the expression. I was gonna say, 466 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: it's flight Russian roulette. 467 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 2: But you wouldn't go that far, right. 468 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: But the issue is whether or not you're there's gonna 469 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: be a plane, not whether you're gonna get hurt on 470 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: the plane. So and so I was like, I shouldn't 471 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: use that one. So I said it, but you now 472 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: know where I was coming from. 473 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: So my question to you is, you know, I just 474 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 3: mentioned that I was looking to fly to Florida in 475 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 3: December and looking to Spirit and it wasn't there. Without 476 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 3: naming the airline that you are, said you were flying 477 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 3: to Las Vegas for the holidays. Uh, you know the 478 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: flight that we took that we complained about on Spirit 479 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 3: Airlines was a was a Las Vegas flight? 480 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 481 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 3: Returned. So did you happen to notice was were there 482 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 3: flights available through Spirit Airlines Las Vegas? I did not 483 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 3: even check, and I'm tapped out on Spirit altogether. 484 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm all Oh, tacking out as fast as 485 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: I can. 486 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely no. 487 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: I I ended up taking, against my better judgment southwest 488 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: to Vegas because it was NonStop, and to find a 489 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: NonStop flight these days is impossible. It drives me nuts. 490 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm going with the family, so I'm like, all right 491 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: with them. I could be next to them. It's it's 492 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: totally fine, it's it's good, it's it's no problem. It's 493 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: not my first class once. But I I have learned 494 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: to suffer like a common man. 495 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: For family. 496 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: I don't use the word hero very often to I'm 497 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 3: not gonna use. 498 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: I will go get my cake. You're not wow, But. 499 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 3: So did you have to pay for luggage and seat 500 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 3: assignment with so. 501 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: There's there's no seat assigmon check that's not coming till 502 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: that's not coming till January. Now, I just bought my 503 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: tickets and got my preferred boarding and give me my 504 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: drink tickets that I won't use. 505 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 2: It's just gonna be that easy. 506 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: I often question exactly how much it's going to take 507 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: me to retire? What is the money that you need? 508 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: And it's why you need to be listen. Don't take 509 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: investment advice from me. Don't take investment advice from Fingers Maloy. 510 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: If you're young, invest If you live differently than your 511 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: friends now, you'll live differently than your friends later, which 512 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: means you won't go out to every bar, you won't 513 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: go to every sporting event, you won't got to every concert. 514 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: You'll keep your money growing and compounding, and you will 515 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: end up better off than everybody. It's Eat Drink Smoke. 516 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That is America's favorite amateur drinker Fingers Maloy. 517 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: Find everything at Eat Drinks Smoke show dot com, find 518 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: us on your favorite podcast platform and looking up for 519 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: us at all the social media's there. Just look for 520 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: Eat Drink Smoke on x Go, Eat Drink Smoke and 521 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: on Instagram, Eat Drink Smoke Podcast. 522 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 2: Fingers. There's a story that. 523 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: You found over there at Yahoo Finance, whereas I believe 524 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: where you get all your. 525 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: Financial news absolutely Yahoo and MySpace. 526 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: Nice. 527 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: The average American sixty five years of age and up earns. 528 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 2: An annual income. 529 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: Of sixty five thousand, four hundred and sixty eight dollars, 530 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: So am I to take that as that's like a 531 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: pension kind. 532 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 3: Of pay either that or average out whatever they've saved 533 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: for retirement. You know, whether it's mandatory withdrawals out of 534 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 3: their retirement account and whatever extra that they plan, that's 535 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 3: my guest. 536 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: So according to this which is from the Federal Reserve 537 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: Bank of Saint Louis twenty twenty three, which is the 538 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: latest data, right, a couple of years trailing, does group 539 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: spends out of the sixty five thousand, four hundred and 540 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: sixty eight sixty thousand, eighty seven yearly four thousand, six 541 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty two dollars a month. So another way 542 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: to look at this is that the average retired American 543 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: needs forty six hundred dollars a month to survive. Now, 544 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to assume that is a single person, not 545 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: a couple, and that according to a survey of consumer finances, 546 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: the average American between the ages of sixty five and 547 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: sixty nine has about two hundred thousand dollars. 548 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: In retirement savings. Okay, this is a hard conversation. 549 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: That is not a lot of money, And I don't 550 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: want to be the person who's talking about people who 551 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: are in this situation and go at them. That's not 552 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: my interest. I'm not doing that. 553 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: That's you. 554 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: You are still working with if that's what you have 555 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: in the bank, that is a hard one to make stretch. Yeah, 556 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: and people are gonna be like two hundred thousand dollars 557 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: because it sounds like money. 558 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: It's it's not two. 559 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: Hundred thousand dollars invested. How throwing you off what? And 560 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: the real question is what are you spending on between 561 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: now and then? And I speak as a guy who 562 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: lost everything in the downturn of two thousand and eight 563 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: two nine, twenty ten. I lost everything I owned. I 564 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: had to give up the house that we had in Florida. 565 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: That I mean, that's a house I we We've talked 566 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: about this before. We could have still lived in five bedrooms. 567 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: It had three bass at a pool. It was in Tampa. 568 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: Great place, great place. Could have raised the kids there, 569 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: you could have you could have come and gone for 570 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: gone for a dip fingers, fantastic. But then we moved 571 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: to California and we rented out the place and everything 572 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: went to hell and a ham basket in that in 573 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: that downturn. 574 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: Uh. 575 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: And we still I mean, I I speak very honestly. 576 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: We worked it out and there was some money owed 577 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: and we just every month, every month, we send a 578 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: check and take care of our debts right like a lanister. 579 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: We're taking care of our debts since that time and 580 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: rebuilding my entire life, which which I mean were you 581 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: saw it happened, fingers, You saw every bit of it 582 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: take place. The levels to which I don't live above 583 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: my means is exceptional. And I listen, I'm not afraid 584 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: to spend. You've heard me talk about cigars and other things. 585 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't buy the big fancy house. 586 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 2: I don't have. I don't do any of that stuff. 587 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what people spend their money on, and 588 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: I don't know how people get to a certain age. Listen, 589 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: bad things happen and you fight through it, and what 590 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: matters is you got through the other side. As long 591 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: as you're through the other side and you worked toward that, 592 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: you can then rebuild to some level and be like, 593 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: you know what, this all happened and here I'm at now. 594 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 1: But if you haven't thought about it, and that's not 595 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: something that's going on in your life, what are you doing? 596 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a long winded way of me getting 597 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: to this point. What the hell are people spending their 598 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: money on? That If at the age of sixty nine, 599 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: with no necessarily damaging things that took place in life, 600 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: because it can happen that nothing bad happens. 601 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 2: What were you doing? 602 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: That's the part the boggles of mind. 603 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: Am I being crude? 604 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 3: No, We've talked about this a lot where first of all, 605 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 3: when you graduate from high school, there is no real 606 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: financial literacy for American people. There just is not. They 607 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 3: don't give you any kind of training on how to 608 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: even And I know this sounds totally old man screaming 609 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 3: at the cloud, but balance a check book. Let alone 610 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 3: think about retirement because you mentioned it early or time 611 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 3: is your best friend. It really you can somehow figure 612 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 3: out a way to sock away a bunch of money 613 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 3: in your twenties and just let time take care of 614 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: things for you. You won't be in a situation where 615 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: you have just two hundred thousand dollars in your late 616 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 3: sixties for retirement. And we're not. 617 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: And for the record, again, neither one of us are 618 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: financial planners, and neither one of us did it right, 619 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: but we're both we in this conversation it is about 620 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: admitting it like we didn't do it right. 621 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: We both are are. 622 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: You know, if we had known, if we had had 623 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: the advice if we were smarter, and so we both 624 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time engaging this with our kids. Yeah, 625 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: in an aggressive way, because if we can set them 626 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: up better, then okay we can break the tam right, 627 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: we could break the cycle here. And so much of 628 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: this is psychological. You don't need the new thing, you 629 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: don't need the biggest thing. You don't need that thing 630 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: because somebody else got the thing. You have to ask 631 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: yourself what is it that you're trying to do? What 632 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: is it you're trying to get accomplished? And trust me 633 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: when I say there is something very joyful about the first. 634 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 2: Of the month coming. 635 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: You sit down, you pay the bills usually you know, 636 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,919 Speaker 1: old school, right the check. Now you're just doing everything online. Yeah, 637 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: and then you're done. You're like, I'm gonna go have lunch. 638 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 2: Without a care. 639 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: There are no worries here because you decided to live 640 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: right over here. And other people are in debt up 641 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: to their eyeballs and they're house poor and there's nothing 642 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: worse than being house poor. 643 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 3: How much of this do you think? And you know 644 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 3: how much I love to blame social media for everything. 645 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: Oh, this is marketing issues, This is going back long 646 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: before social media. People want immediate gratification. There's no understanding 647 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: of the of the value of sacrifice. 648 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 3: I mean, making it worse. The whole idea of keeping 649 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 3: up with the Joneses and seeing all these influencers doing 650 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 3: all these fun things, and you see yourself going to 651 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 3: work every morning, coming back home and feeling guilty about 652 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 3: buying your five dollars coffee. So you decide, well, the 653 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 3: heck with it, yolo. You know, the young people think, well, 654 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 3: climate change is going to destroy the planet anyway, why 655 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 3: should I worry about retirement? And next thing, you know, 656 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 3: you have next to nothing for retirement. 657 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: The coffee thing that I've seen from the people I 658 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: work with in radio, the amount of money they spend 659 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: at a Starbucks like place is mine. It's mind boggling 660 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: how this happens, how they how this works, why they 661 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: think that this is somehow good or smart or valuable. 662 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: They've never done the math, They've never added it up. 663 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: It's hundreds of dollars a month. You could do one 664 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: Starbucks a week, put the rest, put the rest of 665 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: it in the savings, just matching the dow and. 666 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: My rest is history. Just let it grow, bitch. 667 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 3: The amount of people who spend that kind of money 668 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 3: on Starbucks coffee that that could be your used car payment. No, 669 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,439 Speaker 3: not a new car payment. We talked about it. 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