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Speaker 1: And Grand Rising family, thanks for checking in with us

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Speaker 1: on this Wednesday morning. Later, the Founder, Chairman and CEO,

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Speaker 1: John Hope Bryant, will it turn to our classroom. John

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Speaker 1: will share several ways we can become financially independent. Before John,

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Speaker 1: the Faith Brothers will join us. Before the Faith Brothers,

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Speaker 1: New York City media analyst Wayne Gilman and Reggie Thomas

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Speaker 1: will analyze some of the key races in Tuesday's elections.

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Speaker 1: But to get a started, momentarily, we're going to speak

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Speaker 1: with former New York City lawmaker Charles Barron. But let's

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Speaker 1: get Kevin, who opened up these classroom doors for us

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Speaker 1: on this humpday, Grand Rising, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Grand Rising, indeed, Carl Nelson, I first must do a disclaimer.

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Speaker 2: The legal idea needs to be changed. We're working on that.

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Speaker 2: We're working on it as we speak. And meanwhile, though,

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Speaker 2: it's d Day in America. And what I mean by

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Speaker 2: that is that Democrats declared such victory in those elections.

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Speaker 2: But before we begin that conversation, how you feeling, Carl Nelson?

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Speaker 1: Learning? Kevin, I'm in a learning mode.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that's become your superpower, hasn't it.

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Speaker 1: Because I know I'm going to learn a lot, you know,

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Speaker 1: John Hope Brant, we've got financial independence of Faith Brothers.

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Speaker 1: And also we've got Charles Barron coming up shortly, so

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Speaker 1: I know I'm going to learn a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Parce he's the ninja in learning right now,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, man, what do you think of all those elections?

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Speaker 2: Let me read pick a headline for you first from

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Speaker 2: the CNN Politics page. It says Democrats sweep the first

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Speaker 2: major elections of Trump's second term. What we need to

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Speaker 2: know is there are big wins where the Democrats that

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Speaker 2: the party had victories and contests across the states, building

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Speaker 2: momentum into the twenty twenty six midterms. Zoran Mandani will

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Speaker 2: win well. He won New York City's mayoral race, and

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Speaker 2: CNN says that Abigail Spanberger and Mickey Scherrill will win

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Speaker 2: their respective gubernatorial races in Virginia and New Jersey, and

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Speaker 2: before we go on, what's what's that? Uh in plain

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Speaker 1: A blue wave?

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Speaker 5: A blue wave?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well the historic first is that Mandannie h

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Speaker 2: I'm saying his name. I keep putting that m on

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Speaker 2: living in a time of first as.

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Speaker 1: Well speaking out first. Alban in New York elected a

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Speaker 1: those sisters too. Oh man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a list on one of the pages

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Speaker 2: I have here? In New Jersey, Mickey Cyril is projected

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Speaker 1: They made a clean sweep.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we talked about Mandamie, We talked about Virginia and

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Speaker 2: Part about the politics game is Schumer refused to endorse Mondani,

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Speaker 7: Charles grand Rising, grand Rising, my brother, both of you.

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Speaker 7: It's good to hear your voices, and I always appreciate

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Speaker 7: He's finally endorsed, and when he was on CNN talking

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Speaker 7: The bottom line is Mamdanni had no zero black women

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Speaker 7: Yeah, dis the finishment thought up on those contradictions and

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Speaker 7: He's corrupt and no good. So those are not options.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me a moment.

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Speaker 7: I'll just finish. It got so bad that we had

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Speaker 7: Well, you know that he's thirty four years old and

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Speaker 7: Neither did Michael Bloomberg. He was a businessman who had

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Speaker 7: Zoran had the experience. I was with him in Albany.

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Speaker 7: I believe that that's a bunch of nonsense because he's smart,

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's support by a lot of young people.

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Speaker 7: He ran a phenomenal campaign. They's no mistake about it.

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Speaker 7: Yep, that's not gonna happen. And these there's a whole

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Speaker 1: Now, let me jump in here for a second. Fellas

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Speaker 1: They're gonna leave the city. Do you think that will happen?

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Speaker 7: Not going to happen. That's a BS argument they make

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Speaker 7: a socialist economy. That is not going to happen. He's

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Speaker 7: going to capitulate even more after he gets in because

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Speaker 7: he's saying affordability. It's oh great messaging affordability. If define

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Speaker 7: it man affordable to who? How were you going to

436
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Speaker 7: make housing affordable? What is your definition of affordability in housing?

437
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 7: The area median income? The area median income of New

438
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 7: York City is one hundred and forty seven thousand for

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Speaker 7: a family of free. Definition for that in terms of

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Speaker 7: affordability is eighty percent of that, which is one hundred

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Speaker 7: and sixteen thousand. Our communities for thirty five forty thousand

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Speaker 7: and fifty thousand for families of free. Zor on define affordability,

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Speaker 7: How are you gonna bring prices down for food? People

444
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 7: will come out cheaper eating their money in New York

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Speaker 7: City then spending it on some food. He has not

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Speaker 7: defined anything. See you now we be on the campaign,

447
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 7: you will see mark my words. The campaign rhetoric is over.

448
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 7: The speeches are over, the promises are over. I want

449
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Speaker 7: you to show us how you're gonna make this place

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Speaker 7: affordable for us poor communities, black and brown communities in

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Speaker 7: New York City. He has not defined that. We'll see

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Speaker 7: he has to put together a budget. Will he have

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Speaker 7: two three billion? This is what he didn't say. He

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Speaker 7: didn't say pay black people, Latino round people. You'll vote

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Speaker 7: for me because I'm gonna have a multi billion dollar

456
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Speaker 7: anti poverty plan and I'm bringing it to the hood.

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Speaker 4: You'll vote for me.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna have a workforce development program of billions of

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Speaker 7: dollars and I'm gonna bring that to the hood. Hey,

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Speaker 7: y'all vote for me because I'm gonna make sure that

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Speaker 7: any housing developed, fifty to sixty percent of it seventy

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Speaker 7: percent of it has to be affordable by your definition

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Speaker 7: of affordability. And I will end homelessness or put a

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Speaker 7: dentity like you've never seen before, because I'm gonna make

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Speaker 7: sure that if they get any city subsidies, they're gonna

466
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Speaker 7: have to have a large percentage of homeless people. And

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Speaker 7: I will have a strength subsidy for the homeless who

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Speaker 7: can can't afford to pay there. You heard none of that.

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Speaker 1: Right there, Charles. We got to step aside and get

470
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Speaker 1: caught up with the ladies, news, trafficking weather in the

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Speaker 1: different cities before that. Let me just as we go out,

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Speaker 1: let me just remind the folks that Alvin back Bragg

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Speaker 1: was re elected. He's the Manhattanda, He's the one who

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Speaker 1: prosecuted Donald Trump as well. So he got he was

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Speaker 1: reelected and then all beneath the state capitol and now

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Speaker 1: has a black mayor elected, Dorsey Alpers. So some positive

477
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: coming out there for Democrats in New York City and

478
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Speaker 1: New York State. Eight hundred and four or five zero

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Speaker 1: seventy eight to seventy sixty. You want to speak with

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Speaker 1: Charles Brown, reach out to us. We'll take your phone

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Speaker 1: calls after the news. Trafficking weather that's next, and Grand

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Speaker 1: Rising family, thanks for waking up with us on this

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Speaker 1: Wednesday morning and day after the election's day we have

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Speaker 1: with hom se instudor. But with us is Charles Barron,

485
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Speaker 1: former New York City law maker Charles Brown. Well, get

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Speaker 1: back to Charles at the moment. Let me just remind you.

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Speaker 1: Coming up later this morning, we're gonna speak with the

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Speaker 1: Founded chairman and CEO, John Hope. Brian, He's gonna, you know,

489
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Speaker 1: give us some tips that we can become financially in

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Speaker 1: the Before we do that, the Faith Brothers will be here.

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Speaker 1: Before the Faith Brothers though, we're going to speak with

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Speaker 1: to New York media analysts. That will be Wayne Gillmo

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Speaker 1: and Reggie Thomas. We're going to talk about some of

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Speaker 1: the races that took place on Tuesday and tomorrow. Chemictologist

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Speaker 1: Tony Brader will join us along with sixty civil rights

496
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Speaker 1: activist doctor Paul Smith. So if you are in Baltimore

497
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Speaker 1: and make sure you can be radio locked in Tight

498
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Speaker 1: on ten ten WLB or if you're in the TMV

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Speaker 1: run fourteen fifty w L. Back to Charles again. So, Charles,

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Speaker 1: you know some of the races we talked about, we

501
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Speaker 1: didn't mention it and I mentioned agoing. Now, Alvin Bragg

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Speaker 1: was re elected Manhattan das one who went after Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump as well as Chis James also all but in

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Speaker 1: New York one of your former man. Yeah, Dorsey Apple

505
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Speaker 1: is just the first black to win anything in Alpening.

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Speaker 1: Is that true?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 8: Yep?

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Speaker 7: We'll see when her politics is like you know, once

510
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Speaker 7: she gets in, But let me finish this and then

511
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Speaker 7: open up some questions. You know what's interesting as a

512
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Speaker 7: historic election, over two million people came out that history,

513
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Speaker 7: and he got one million of them, fifty percent of them.

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Speaker 7: So even if Curtis Lever would have dropped out, he

515
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Speaker 7: still would have beaten Cromo. And that's a good thing.

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Speaker 7: More young people came out than ever before. So you're

517
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 7: going to hear in the days to come. Is this

518
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Speaker 7: the new faith of the Democratic Party? Of course, how

519
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 7: King Jeffreys immediately said no, it isn't. Why because they're

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Speaker 7: afraid now that the Republicans for the midterm elections next

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Speaker 7: year twenty twenty six congressional seats. That's why all the

522
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Speaker 7: jurymending happening from both sides.

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Speaker 5: That if they paint.

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Speaker 7: Zorn Mamdani as the new face of the Democratic Party,

525
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Speaker 7: they're saying that new face is socialism. Then they ignorantly

526
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Speaker 7: say communism all that that foolishness. But here's the problem

527
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Speaker 7: for black people. We got to focus on black people.

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Speaker 7: I don't care what faith the Democratic Party has black people.

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Speaker 7: Catch hell, even when they had the face of Franklin

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Speaker 7: Delano Roosevelt and the New Deal and that's when Social

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Speaker 7: Security came in, Unemployment benefits came in, our government jobs

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Speaker 7: came in. The New Deal was no real deal for

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Speaker 7: black people. Then we go back and research the poverty,

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Speaker 7: especially when those men came back from war, and then

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Speaker 7: here comes President Johnson, the War on Poverty. Well, he

536
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 7: lost that damn war because we in some of the

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Speaker 7: most abject poverty that we've ever been in, in the

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Speaker 7: richest country in the world. With a seven billion trillion

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Speaker 7: dollar national budget and in New York a two hundred

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Speaker 7: and fifty four billion dollar state budget and one hundred

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Speaker 7: and sixteen billion dollar city budget. What face of the

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Speaker 7: Democratic Party ever ever did the right did right by

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Speaker 7: our faces. So I'm saying the most exciting thing that

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Speaker 7: came out of this election in New York City is

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Speaker 7: not his victory. I'm glad Clomo lost. I'm glad Hakim,

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Speaker 7: and I'm a strambling to define the face. I'm glad

547
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 7: Chuck schum is in trouble. I'm glad Hakim is in trouble.

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Speaker 7: I'm glad he did all of that. Of black people.

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Speaker 7: Don't go dancing in the street, because now the devil

550
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 7: is in the details and the way he's been moving

551
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Speaker 7: towards the from the socialism. Moving toward neoliberalism is scary,

552
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Speaker 7: and I think we're going to have to continue. So

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00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 7: the best thing that happened to us was to have

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Speaker 7: that Black Solidarity Coalition, and we're going to run candidates

555
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Speaker 7: and set the example as Anaza and I did in

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Speaker 7: East New York, where black radicals can get elected into

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Speaker 7: these state legislators legislatures and have some power. And then

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Speaker 7: we also have of our national conference that was excellent,

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Speaker 7: the National Black Radical Political Congress. We were able to

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Speaker 7: get one hundred plus people in New Jersey and mean

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Speaker 7: Philadelphia at college there, and we were able to get

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Speaker 7: over twelve states represented. And so now we're going to

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Speaker 7: take that model across the country. Our best hope is us.

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Speaker 7: Does this mean we're not going to unite with others?

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Speaker 7: Of course, now we're going to form alliances and coalitions

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Speaker 7: because we have to have our lives. We can't do

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Speaker 7: it by ourselves. But it's going to be based upon

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Speaker 7: principles of unity. And I see that's what's coming out

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Speaker 7: of New York like never before. Zoron is not our savior.

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Speaker 7: Zoron is a Democrat. Now he's a neoliberal now and

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Speaker 7: he's going to get worse unless we organize, organized, organized,

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Speaker 7: with some serious resistance. The while it turns blue. We

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Speaker 7: got to make sure they's black beneficial for us.

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Speaker 1: All right, turn away from the top of Charles. Brother

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Speaker 1: main too is called from New York City. Every wants

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Speaker 1: to have a conversation with it. He's online too, Grand Rising,

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Speaker 1: Brother man too with Charles Baron.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Grand Rising, Hotel habarra GANI free the land of food,

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Speaker 9: the African mind. I'm going to thank you, brother Crazy

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Speaker 9: for having this forum, and thank you for having brother

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Speaker 9: Charles Barron, my general, My general, my general. The work

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Speaker 9: now begins.

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Speaker 6: How you doing so?

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Speaker 7: I'm doing fine, Thank you so much. It's sure does Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I just want to just put something out there so

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Speaker 9: that people can understand the context and you can then

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Speaker 9: take it where it needs to go. One. We had

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Speaker 9: our first black mayor, David Dinkins after the previous administration.

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00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 9: Koch administration was riddled with scan and we had a

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Speaker 9: whole bunch of police brutality, some cases that someone reported

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Speaker 9: and some came known, such as Usef Hawkins, the unfortunately

592
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Speaker 9: killing of Youthseeff Hawkins, and people in the coach administration

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Speaker 9: who committed suicide after corruption after corruption case was being revealed,

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Speaker 9: one one guy named Mannus committed suicide. Then we don't

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Speaker 9: have a female governor in our history at New York

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Speaker 9: until Andrew Cormo gets caught up in a corruption scandal.

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Speaker 9: And then you have Sheldon Silver, who was a white

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Speaker 9: politician who was ruling with the impunity. He gets exposed

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Speaker 9: with corruption scandal. And of course we don't have Zorona

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Speaker 9: and Donnie after Eric Adams doesn't get caught up in

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Speaker 9: corruption scandal. Could you speak to the everyday corruption that

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Speaker 9: goes on in New York City and state that is

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Speaker 9: normal and how we have that's another thing we have

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Speaker 9: to fight against in order to advance the black agenda.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you so much, And you're so right.

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Speaker 7: The corruption is pervasive. You know, you can add Elliot Spitzer,

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Speaker 7: you can add a few others that who was a

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Speaker 7: governor as well or attorney general. The corruption is pervasive

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Speaker 7: in New York and still a lot of people are

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Speaker 7: getting away with it. It's not that it stops. They're

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Speaker 7: going to be more careful now, but corruption is all

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Speaker 7: throughout New York City as a matter of fact, mybell.

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Speaker 7: I'm glad you raised that because I don't know if

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Speaker 7: some of you saw that film The Gangs of New

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Speaker 7: York and they used to call it. You know, what's

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Speaker 7: a guy's name? Who was this Boss Tweed, Boss Tweed,

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Speaker 7: Tammedy Hall. I think you might remember those names. Tammedy Hall.

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Speaker 7: In New York City in the early eighteen hundred nineteen hundreds.

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Speaker 7: Tammany Hall.

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Speaker 4: Was corrupt.

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Speaker 7: It was a corrupt Democratic governance of New York City.

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Speaker 7: And Boss Tweed, Marcy Tweed, was so corrupt he turned

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Speaker 7: over the New York City economy to the gangsters, to

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Speaker 7: mobsters and contracting stuff. Well, now from Tammany Hall, the

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Speaker 7: City Hall, the Democratic Party is still into gangsterism, except

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Speaker 7: the gangsters now are the billionaires. So New York City

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Speaker 7: is run by the billionaires. It was the billionaires that

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Speaker 7: got behind Eric Adam and decided that they wanted him.

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Speaker 7: It was the billionaires that left Eric Adams and went

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Speaker 7: with Cuomo to try to stop Zora Mamdani.

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Speaker 4: It was the billionaires that.

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Speaker 7: Decided that, hey, conscious a liability, Let's give Dinkins a shot.

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Speaker 7: It was the billionaires that said Laird Dincoln's didn't do it.

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Speaker 7: Let's get rid of him and let's give Julianni a shot.

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Speaker 7: So from Tammany Hall to City Hall. This gangsterism in

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Speaker 7: the Democratic Party that nobody talks about, and it's through contracting.

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Speaker 7: And this is why Zorlonmandani should not have supported those bills,

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Speaker 7: those policies that came on the ballot, the ballot initiatives

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Speaker 7: that's going to give more power to these corporate real

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Speaker 7: estate gangsters. And he should not have supported the City

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Speaker 7: of Yes, which takes power away from the city council

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Speaker 7: that people elected to do the housing stuff. That's why

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Speaker 7: we stopped gentrification because we were in the city council.

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Speaker 7: He is against the city. He's for the City of Yes,

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Speaker 7: which is Eric Adams policies to give the gangster corporations,

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Speaker 7: the gangster real estate industry, more profit and control.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell me and ask you this question of Charles,

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Speaker 1: because you've been in these elections, you play these games.

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Speaker 1: So what happens? What's Mandannie. Do you go to sleep

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Speaker 1: after you win the election or are you're up all

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Speaker 1: night for the next day. I'm just trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out what do you think he's been doing? Right now?

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Speaker 7: I think he made a speech that was powerful, rhetoric

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Speaker 7: that was deep. A lot of it was empty. He's

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Speaker 7: not going to be able to do. But now he

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Speaker 7: has to be worried to death because he now has

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Speaker 7: to face reality. It's governing time. All of this taught

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Speaker 7: during the campaign. Now it's time to govern, and the

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Speaker 7: devil will be in the details of his budget. That's

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Speaker 7: the first thing you can tell where he's coming from

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Speaker 7: his budget. And then you've got to look at who

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Speaker 7: he's going to hire as commissioners of agencies or people

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Speaker 7: on his staff who Black people will nowhere to be

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Speaker 7: found in his hierarchy of his campaign, and I doubt

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Speaker 7: seriously we might have a few token appointments here and there,

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Speaker 7: but we're not going to be found anywhere in the

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Speaker 7: real numbers in his administrations. So now you're going to

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Speaker 7: see where's going on is at The campaign's over, the

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Speaker 7: rhetoric is over, the promises are over. It's governing time.

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Speaker 7: It's delivery time. And I've seen democratic socialists go from

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Speaker 7: radical socialism to vulgar pragmatism and neoliberalism and voting for

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Speaker 7: governors and speakers that don't do our community the best

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Speaker 7: in our community's interests that don't have our best our

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Speaker 7: community's interests at heart. So he's going to have to

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Speaker 7: really govern now. He has to deal with Wall Street,

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Speaker 7: he has to deal with the real estate industry, he

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Speaker 7: has to deal with the multi ethnic groups in New

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Speaker 7: York City. And we will see if all of that

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Speaker 7: rhetoric becomes reality or he just falls in line like

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Speaker 7: everybody else. And as Malcolm says, we should not be bamboothoo,

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Speaker 7: don't be had, don't be took. We have to stay organized, billets,

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Speaker 7: vigilant and intelligent because I see the shift already during

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Speaker 7: the campaign to neoliberalism.

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Speaker 1: Hold that thought right there. We got to step beside.

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Speaker 1: Get caught over the traffic and weather in different cities.

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Speaker 1: And Christian in Malibu has a comment or a question

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Speaker 1: for you family. You two can join this discussion. Reach

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Speaker 1: out to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy

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Speaker 1: eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls. After

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Speaker 1: the traffic and weather, it's next and Grand Rising family,

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Speaker 1: thanks for waking up with us on this Wednesday morning.

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Speaker 1: It's a hump day that means halfway through the work week.

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Speaker 1: With our guest Charles Baron, Charles is a former New

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Speaker 1: York City a lawmaker and also a state lawmaker, was

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Speaker 1: up in Albany as well and reflecting on last night's

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Speaker 1: election results. So the focus right now is on New

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Speaker 1: York City. Of course it wasn't it's so called an

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Speaker 1: upset but arn mndoni one, but dynamics and his winning

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Speaker 1: attracted a lot of young people, and Charles has not

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Speaker 1: too many of us who look like us or is

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Speaker 1: part of that campaign. So we'll see how that works out.

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Speaker 1: But we've got some folks wanted to talk to Charles,

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Speaker 1: So let's go to Christian's callings from Malibu. He's online,

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Speaker 1: three grand rising, Christian. You're on with Charles Barron.

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Speaker 8: Hey, good morning, it's a beautiful day and America. Now

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Speaker 8: we're gonna see how your boy reacts because I can

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Speaker 8: see you right now. In the next six months, Naho's

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Speaker 8: coming to New York. He's gonna be speaking at the

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Speaker 8: United Nations. He's gonna be speaking wherever he wants to speak.

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Speaker 8: That's the first thing, is how's boy going to approach that?

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, like they already have the sessions and

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Speaker 7: New York City. I don't think he's going to arrest him.

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Speaker 7: I think that was rhetoric. I think that he a

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Speaker 7: back down on a lot of stuff he said about

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Speaker 7: Palestine and the Jewish community and genocide. He backed down

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Speaker 7: on stuff he said about the police. And so I

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Speaker 7: just don't see him acting a whole lot different than

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Speaker 7: what we've had in New York because he's going to capitulate,

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Speaker 7: as he's done already during his campaign when it comes

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Speaker 7: to governing and he got to get the budget going

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Speaker 7: and he has to get legislation passed, He's going to

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Speaker 7: have to get a city council sponsor of legislation because

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Speaker 7: he can't pass that. So when you come to practical government,

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Speaker 7: operating and running a city, the most powerful city in

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Speaker 7: the world, where the whole world meets the United Nations,

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Speaker 7: where the city dell of capitalism in Wall Street, the

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Speaker 7: communication capital of the world is New York City. New

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Speaker 7: York City that has over two million black people, African people,

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Speaker 7: and over two million Latino people Latino Latino people and

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Speaker 7: about a million Asian people. Sixty two percent of New

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Speaker 7: York City is people of color. That's going to be

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Speaker 7: an interesting combination for him to try to navigate.

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Speaker 8: Now, the second question is you had a lot of

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Speaker 8: illegal aliens in New York. If he wants to have

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Speaker 8: a successful career, maybe he should go ahead and go

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Speaker 8: along with the removal for the illegal aliens. What do

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Speaker 8: you think about that?

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Speaker 7: Well, first, let me correct you. There's no space. People

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Speaker 7: in New York not illegal aliens. They're undocumented immigrants and

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Speaker 7: they contribute billions of dollars to the New York economy

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Speaker 7: and to the culture of the economy. And I think

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Speaker 7: that New York with its one hundred and sixteen billion

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Speaker 7: dollar budget, and then most people don't know separate from

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Speaker 7: that one hundred and sixteen billion is the eight billion

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Speaker 7: dollar unrestricted budget. To deal with first our poor black

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Speaker 7: people who are in homeless shelters and not being treated

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Speaker 7: by and then working alongside that with the undocumented immigrants,

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Speaker 7: we should speed up the citizenship process. We should not

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Speaker 7: see them as aliens and illegal. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 7: most of this land belongs to indigenous people, and on

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Speaker 7: the West coast belongs to the indigenous people from Mexico

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Speaker 7: and other places. Everybody here came from somewhere. We came,

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Speaker 7: you know, by way of force enslavement, kidnapped from Africa,

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Speaker 7: and the rest came from Europe, so I think we

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Speaker 7: should not use that term. Illegal aligence is undocumented immigrants

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Speaker 7: and there is a way that they can be dealt with.

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Speaker 1: All right, Charles, and thanks for schooling the family on

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Speaker 1: that one as well. Thank you, Because the illegally Aian

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Speaker 1: concept comes is you shually use The Trumpsters are using that,

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Speaker 1: so it tells you you know where you're coming from

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Speaker 1: when you use that term, you correct their undocumented immigrants

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight to

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Speaker 1: seventy six. Keep that number handy gun needed for our

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Speaker 1: next set of guests, Reggie Thomas and Wayne Gilmer to

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Speaker 1: New York media analysts. But Charles, before we let you go,

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Speaker 1: what you see in the future for New York City

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Speaker 1: is just because some people are you know, say it's

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Speaker 1: going to be disastering. Now with man Donnie in the office,

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Speaker 1: do you see do you think it's going to go

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Speaker 1: down the tubes or is New York City too big

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Speaker 1: to fail?

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Speaker 7: Well, it's not going to go down the tube. Some

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Speaker 7: of us are going to be organizing to hold him accountable.

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Speaker 7: And just like you talk about a red way and

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Speaker 7: then a blue wave, but we need a black wave

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Speaker 7: and get more of us involved. I'm hoping out of

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Speaker 7: this election we can build our coalition to hold folk

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Speaker 7: accountable and to organize for power and not just abound issues.

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Speaker 7: So I think New York City is going to be

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Speaker 7: one of the most interesting places to be. I think

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Speaker 7: the face of the Democratic Party is not what we

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Speaker 7: should be talking about. We should be talking about independent

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Speaker 7: black structures, whether we run in Democratic primaries or the

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Speaker 7: General Assembly, a general election with an independent political party.

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Speaker 7: We should now look at the fact that this duopoly

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Speaker 7: government of Democrats and Republicans has failed the American people.

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Speaker 7: Right now as we speak, they're in a historic shutdowns.

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Speaker 7: People are being fired, losing their jobs, people are losing

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Speaker 7: their healthcare, people are losing their food stamps. If that benefits,

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Speaker 7: both parties are responsible for this, no matter what faith

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Speaker 7: you're putting on the Democratic Party, and that's why America

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Speaker 7: is ripe for radical systemach change, for revolution, and people

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Speaker 7: should not consider his victory as our victory. The struggle continues.

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Speaker 7: We're going to have to be more intelligent and vigilant

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Speaker 7: than we've ever been before. Were in for the fight

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Speaker 7: of our lives, and we should cease the time and

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Speaker 7: meet it all right.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Charles, thanks to your thoughts, you mining and thanks

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Speaker 1: for your expertise, and you know running for races on

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Speaker 1: the city Council in New York City as well.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you man, Appreciate you all right.

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Speaker 1: Family. That was Charles Barron and former New York City

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Speaker 1: lawmack And also represented the Brooklyn section of the city

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Speaker 1: in Albany the capitol. And as we mentioned in Albany,

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Speaker 1: New York now has the first black mayor, Dorsey Alpers.

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Speaker 1: She's the first female, first black mayor in this Albany,

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Speaker 1: New York. So this is some changes taking place, all right. Family.

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Speaker 1: That's bringing our next two guests. Both of them are

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Speaker 1: media analysts, the Reggie Thomas Andane Gilman Grand Rising. Reggie

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Speaker 1: and Wayne, welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 10: All right.

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Speaker 1: I got a question for you both of you, fellows.

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Speaker 1: So let me start with Reggie. First year, your assessment

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Speaker 1: what happened last night? Was it a blue wave or

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Speaker 1: was this or the government shutdown had something to do

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Speaker 1: with how people voted?

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Speaker 10: Reggie short of the government shut down had something to

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Speaker 10: do with it. But I told you the other day

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Speaker 10: that that my Mam Donnie was gonna win. I thought

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Speaker 10: that that uh ma shoe was gonna do her thing,

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Speaker 10: and so was uh spamburger. Uh And this shutdown has

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Speaker 10: a little something to do with it. Of course, people

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Speaker 10: not being able to uh can get for the federal government.

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Speaker 10: But you know, one of the things that you got

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Speaker 10: to remember is that dose happened. Amount of people that

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Speaker 10: lost their jobs. You got who are losing their farms.

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Speaker 10: You know, you got farmers that have had their farms

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Speaker 10: and their families for one hundred, two hundred years that

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Speaker 10: are losing it. They under Biden and Harris, they were

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Speaker 10: getting these subsidies to be able to make their farms

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Speaker 10: more sustainable. Executive comes in now and cuts all of

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Speaker 10: that out, and these people were left on the hook

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Speaker 10: having to pay my back that on money. The federal

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Speaker 10: government said that they would help their pay and they

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Speaker 10: were reneged. And many of them still to this day

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Speaker 10: don't understand what happened. You got farmers out there still

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Speaker 10: talking about by now or still referencing it. Well, Fay

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Speaker 10: said what happened to them as the federal government, No,

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Speaker 10: that's not what happened. That's not what happened. So you're

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Speaker 10: going to see more of these types of elections as

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Speaker 10: times over. And we talked the other day and and

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Speaker 10: kind of like kind of figured it out whether or

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Speaker 10: not we're gonna absolutely have a midterm election.

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Speaker 4: You better believe is on.

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Speaker 10: And topping right now that there is a coalition trying

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Speaker 10: to figure out how we don't get to the term election,

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Speaker 10: because this is really indicative of which direction the country

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Speaker 10: wants to go. They don't like what they're seeing. They

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Speaker 10: don't like watching their neighbors and friends and family members

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Speaker 10: getting taken off the streets and set to foreign countries,

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Speaker 10: or put in jails, or having kids being afraid to

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Speaker 10: go to school, all of these things. And I said

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Speaker 10: these other day that I was a little concerned that.

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Speaker 1: Because I want to get Wayne's at the piece in

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Speaker 1: here as well, Because Wayne, he talked about immigration. You know,

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Speaker 1: for the folks who were doing the polling said that

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Speaker 1: wasn't that that was a major issue for most folks.

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Speaker 1: It was the economy.

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Speaker 3: So what say you, Wayne, Well, I have to agree

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Speaker 3: with what Reggie's saying, and I'm certainly in agreement with

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Speaker 3: most of what brother Charles Bryan and brother Man too said.

862
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 3: Your previous guest on you there that you know, it

863
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 3: was a referendum on the current administration with respect to

864
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 3: what happened here in New York, what happened across the country.

865
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Speaker 3: There was a need to just push back and I

866
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 3: just feel I mean, I am a Democrat, you know,

867
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 3: I've always voted democrat. I mean, there are times when

868
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 3: I feel more independent because of all the issues with

869
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 3: different particularly candidates that we've had. But when I look

870
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 3: back at everything, this was the confluence of all the

871
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 3: events that have gone on since this man taken office

872
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 3: in Washington, d C. And you know, I am not

873
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:10,919
Speaker 3: as optimistic about what's happening here in New York City.

874
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that man Danny does not have a chance,

875
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 3: but he certainly's got his work clet out for him.

876
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 3: You know, it was interesting how young people and I

877
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 3: was young once, I gravitated towards people who identified with

878
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: certain issues, and I you know, applauded at that particular time.

879
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 3: But New York is a very, very multi faceted situation

880
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 3: in terms of government, and I felt that Brother Baron

881
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 3: really illustrated some of the things that are historically that

882
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 3: have gone this There's been there's been greed, nevers going

883
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 3: back for years in both parties, you know, and that's

884
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 3: not going away. But what I did see is that

885
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 3: there has been a change in the democrat in the

886
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 3: demographics here locally, and there's been a burgeoning group of

887
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 3: Muslims from all parts of the world, Hindus, and they

888
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 3: looked at someone who was running and identified with so

889
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 3: much in terms of different nationalities, different places where he

890
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 3: campaigned that you know, the legacy political era is over.

891
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 3: You just can't go out there. And because your last

892
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 3: name was Cuomo, think that it's a given that you're

893
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: going to be elected. So I know, I'm dancing all

894
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Speaker 3: over the place, and I'm hoping that I'm answering specifically

895
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 3: what it is that you've asked.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me go back to Reggie again. Reggie,

897
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: because you know, they were threatening that the billionaires and

898
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: the millionaires are going to leave New York City and

899
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: Manhattan is going to be bankrupt and the city is

900
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: going to go down to twos because of this election.

901
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: Do you think it was that an idol threat? You

902
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: think that's going to happen, that the city will collapse

903
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: now that they have a democratic socialism there.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely not. That's that's that's foolishness. What will happen is

905
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 10: that just like when the current administration in Washington came in,

906
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 10: they'll be as bows, bens and bowls.

907
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Speaker 11: Uh.

908
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 10: And that will also happen in Manhattan. It will happen

909
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 10: in Brooklyn. Uh, It'll happen in the New York metro area.

910
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 10: Because even though Nannie is the will be the is

911
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 10: the may elect for the five boroughs, the surrounding areas

912
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 10: are also affected, whether it be New Jersey or National

913
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 10: Suffolk or West and some of the other counties above that.

914
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Speaker 10: So no, I mean, I don't agree that that that

915
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Speaker 10: will happen.

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Speaker 6: There are people.

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Speaker 10: Like a size Why don't you remember during the pandemic,

918
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Speaker 10: there are people left New York and moved to Florida

919
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 10: and they could work from home and if they had

920
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Speaker 10: a meeting, they got on the flight. Two hours they

921
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Speaker 10: were in New York City and able to have good

922
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Speaker 10: meetings and then go back. But I don't think it's

923
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Speaker 10: going to be a mass exodus of wealthy people leaving.

924
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 10: They may have to make some adjustments, all right.

925
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Speaker 1: Hold, I thought right there, sixteen after the top, they

926
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Speaker 1: got to take a quick break and we'll come back.

927
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Speaker 1: Wayne question for Wayne and about the politics of that

928
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: happening yesterday. The voting trends will sure that the Richmond

929
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Speaker 1: County Staten Island went for Cormo. At some point they

930
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: were talking about they would want to seceed from the

931
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Speaker 1: New York City. I want I guess Wayne's thoughts on that.

932
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Speaker 1: Family YouTube can join our discussion with our guests to

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Speaker 1: Reggie Thomas, Wayne gim them their two media analysts from

934
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Speaker 1: New York City. Reach out to us at eight hundred

935
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Speaker 1: four to five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll

936
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Speaker 1: take your phone calls next and family, thanks to waking

937
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Speaker 1: up with us on this Tuesday morning, Wednesday morning, actually

938
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Speaker 1: say day after election day. With our guests, the Reggie Thomas,

939
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Speaker 1: Wayne Gillmen, they're both media analysts out of New York City.

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Speaker 1: We're reflecting on what happened last night and the winning

941
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Speaker 1: of man Donnie taking the ladies. Now Mary elected of

942
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Speaker 1: New York City and looking at the polls and the

943
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Speaker 1: question opposed to Wayne, the Cuomo got must to hear

944
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Speaker 1: support on Staten Island and they would talk about Staten

945
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Speaker 1: Island is a seat moving away from New York City

946
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Speaker 1: as one of the five bars. So, Wayne, do you

947
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 1: think this does this indicate there are two Americas, there's

948
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Speaker 1: a suburban and urban America.

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Speaker 3: Well again, Staten Island Borough Richmond is part of the

950
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 3: five boroughs of New York's that make up New York City,

951
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 3: and it has more of a suburban field out there,

952
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 3: is not as densely populated as other parts of the city.

953
01:00:55,320 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 3: But it's also a major Republican stronghold. And you have

954
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 3: to take back what's happened in the last seventy two hours,

955
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 3: forty eight hours. Coming out of the White House, Trump,

956
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 3: you know, gets in the air and he starts talking

957
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 3: about supporting Cuomo publicly. Elon Musk gets on and he's

958
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 3: throwing his support behind Cuomo, like as if his image

959
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 3: and all he's been through is going to make a

960
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 3: difference in the contest. But what I was really surprised

961
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Speaker 3: at how close, because the polls had Mandanny twenty five points,

962
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Speaker 3: some of the thirty points ahead of his competitors, and

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01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 3: there was still a lot of support for Cuomo. I'm

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01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 3: certain if Curtis Lee were who basically not to minimize

965
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Speaker 3: what we do in the business. But he's a talking head,

966
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 3: you know, he's been in radio for a thousand years,

967
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 3: he's been a local activist, and he basically espouses the

968
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 3: points of the Republican Party their beliefs. But I don't

969
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 3: think the average voter out there has taken him seriously

970
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 3: about a lot of the campaigns and he started, and

971
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 3: of course there was this big push to get him

972
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Speaker 3: out of the contest. But when you stop and look

973
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 3: at what was going on with Cuomo in the last

974
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 3: stretch of this campaign, he only lost by nine percent.

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Speaker 3: For what I've been reading to Me'm Danny, So there

976
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 3: was still a lot of people out there, and I

977
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 3: believe there were a lot of people in our community,

978
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 3: in the black community that felt, well, you know, with

979
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 3: all the scars that that Cuomo had been through, better

980
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 3: to deal with the devil that, you know, the one

981
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 3: that you don't know. You know. I was hearing that

982
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 3: locally on the air here from a number of people

983
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 3: who felt, well, you know, this would have been a

984
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 3: better choice. So we'd have to wait and see. I mean,

985
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 3: young people have made their voices heard, and they came

986
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 3: out in droves and uh and as I said, there's

987
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 3: been a dynamic, seismic shift in the demographics here and

988
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 3: there are people who, you know, those who supported Kamala Harris.

989
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 3: South Southeast Asian community came out in record numbers to

990
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 3: show their support for this gentleman.

991
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: And Wayne, Wayne, I mean, I'm sorry, I got to

992
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: ask this because somebody's just sent me his tweet about that. Adrian.

993
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: I haven't talked about sister Adams. If she's yeah, and

994
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: she's black and black female, why didn't she get supported

995
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: black community?

996
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 3: Hey, you know, I really I can't answer that. I Uh,

997
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 3: you're talking about Adrian Adams, right, the city council person.

998
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 3: That is an interesting contest. I hadn't really had a

999
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 3: chance to look at the results there, but I know

1000
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 3: that she was being challenged by the pre candidate, uh,

1001
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 3: a city council person who held that seat, and you know,

1002
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 3: there they may have a lot to do with basically

1003
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 3: what he did how he lost office, because I think

1004
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 3: his name is Ruben Wills. He that district covers a

1005
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 3: lot of Southeast Queens and before he got into some

1006
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 3: he was clear of whatever malfeasts he was accused of.

1007
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 3: But the deal is is that you know, he was

1008
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 3: very vocal, you know, he wanted to get his seat

1009
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 3: back and he felt that the system had did him wrong.

1010
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 3: I remember interviewing him for a podcast that I do periodically,

1011
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 3: and it was it was interesting to hear what happened.

1012
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 3: He was the first person who basically exposed on a

1013
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 3: on a national basis, some of the activities that were

1014
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: going on in in the prison complex upstate New York

1015
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 3: where uh, there was a gang of of white prison

1016
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 3: workers who basically, you know, beat to the point where

1017
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 3: the victim of the beating died in prison. And there

1018
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 3: were others who were aware in in lock up, who

1019
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 3: were aware of Reuben's background as an elected official, and

1020
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 3: they begged him, please expose what's going on in this

1021
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 3: particular prison. So, I mean, he had an interesting uh

1022
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 3: uh situation that he came out of, and maybe voters

1023
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 3: in that district felt that he was worthy of another

1024
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 3: of another term. You know, I thought Adrian Adams had

1025
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 3: done from from my perspective, you know, but I'm just

1026
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 3: really surprised to hear about the lost They didn't didn't

1027
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 3: know that was going on, and and and anyways, the

1028
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 3: Ruben Wills history is almost cuparable to what Usef Salam

1029
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 3: went through where you were falsely accused of something served tonight,

1030
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 3: you know, condemned by the current President of the United

1031
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 3: States calling for his death, and he comes back politically,

1032
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 3: runs for office as a member of the city council

1033
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 3: and was elected.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's the story. Come Backstorty. Twenty six minutes after

1035
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: top there, family just joined us. I guess the voice

1036
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Speaker 1: you just heard is Wayne Gilman along with Reggie Thomas,

1037
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: a media analyst out of New York City. And Reggie

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01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: a question for you that sort of posted to Wayne

1039
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: about the two Americas. And I'm looking at the rollout

1040
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: now for the Virginia governor's race and he's sure where

1041
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: Sponsburger who Spamburger who defeated win some Earl sears that

1042
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: most of the Spamburger's volks are coming from the city

1043
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: parks like Richmond, Virginia Beach and all Folk and all

1044
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: that and the border close to Washington, d C. While

1045
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: there's a sea of red that wins some Earl series

1046
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: one in that race. So my question again to you,

1047
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: do we have two Americas? The urban suburban.

1048
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Speaker 10: Absolutely in in Virginia. Uh you know Winsome Uh wins

1049
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 10: Earl Sears tied her. She hitched her wagon to the

1050
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Speaker 10: to the mega campaign, and and I remember watching the

1051
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Speaker 10: uh they were interviewing people that were coming from the

1052
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Speaker 10: polls after having just voted, and they said, you know

1053
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Speaker 10: it was it was white farmers and and uh, you know,

1054
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 10: Caucasians that lived in the in the in the the

1055
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Speaker 10: more sparsely populated areas that they went with uh Winsome

1056
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Speaker 10: Earl series primarily because she was a Republican first. And

1057
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Speaker 10: then and then I remember hearing one said, well, you know,

1058
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Speaker 10: it'd be nice if we had a black governor for

1059
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 10: the first time, black female governor for the first time

1060
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Speaker 10: in Virginia.

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Speaker 12: I want to go back to a.

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Speaker 10: Point, just to make a point, last night in New

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Speaker 10: York City was the largest turnout in fifty.

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Speaker 3: Four years, right, that's right, six.

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Speaker 10: Years nineteen sixty nine was the last time New York

1066
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Speaker 10: City saw turnout like this. That's why how serious this

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Speaker 10: business is with what we're seeing now. Going back to Virginia,

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Speaker 10: Virginia has.

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Speaker 13: A lot of of.

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Speaker 10: You know, a lot of spars areas, but where people

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Speaker 10: make their money is in Loudon County, Alexandria, Arlington, Richmond

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Speaker 10: nrcho Hanover. Those are areas where you have that you

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Speaker 10: know that the other counties are just named. Are are

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Speaker 10: the the neighboring counties to the city of Richmond, and

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Speaker 10: then the earlier ones that I mentioned, Arlington, Alexandria, Aloudon County,

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Speaker 10: those are bordered Washington, d C. They think, is is

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Speaker 10: that your areas by Blacksburg where uh uh, I'm not.

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Speaker 10: It's not Virginia State, Oh my goodness, Virginia tech.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 10: That's a completely different area than it is in northern

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Speaker 10: Virginia or in the Richmond area. Your areas such as

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Speaker 10: Charlotteville are you going to find to be more red However,

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Speaker 10: your populated areas are the areas where Sandburg one, Arlington, Alexandria,

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Speaker 10: allow then Richmond handover henright go, Those are where she

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Speaker 10: really want because those are the most populated areas. The

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Speaker 10: other areas are asuncios where your farms are, your wooded area,

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Speaker 10: mountain areas in Charlottesville, areas like South Boston that's on

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Speaker 10: the way to Greensboro, North Carolina. It's a different, different

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Speaker 10: flavor down there. But as Washington grows, so does Maryland

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Speaker 10: and Virginia. So there you have it, and you're going

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Speaker 10: to see some other things happen.

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Speaker 3: And let this.

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Speaker 10: Set down continue on, You're going to see those Virginians

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Speaker 10: get very, very upset because many of them work in DC, right.

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Speaker 1: Many of them in the military as well, and then

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Speaker 1: not getting paid also. So Wayne, your thoughts You think

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Speaker 1: the shutdown had an impact on the Tuesdays results?

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Speaker 3: Oh, certainly, especially even with the issue with step you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're coming back now saying that they're

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Speaker 3: going to try to fund some of it for half

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Speaker 3: the month or what have you. I mean, it's it's sad.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I was in the post office yesterday

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Speaker 3: and I was talking to one of the people behind

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Speaker 3: the counter, and you know, and she's a person of

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Speaker 3: color from the Caribbean, and she's beginning to shift that

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Speaker 3: now it's just as much a democratic problem as it

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Speaker 3: is with the Republicans. I mean, they clearly see what

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Speaker 3: spawned all this. And and you know, the average person

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Speaker 3: out here, you would think that they're not paying attention,

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Speaker 3: but they are, you know. But it's come to the

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Speaker 3: point now where people are hurting and hopefully I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to see my medical bills. I'm in

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Speaker 3: retirement then, and I you know, I do have a

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Speaker 3: little uh, you know, business on the side. But besides that,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm affected like everybody else out here, and

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Speaker 3: God forbid, if somebody loses work, I have to fill

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Speaker 3: that hole one way or the other. And Reggie knows

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Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. It's it's just not easy. And

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Speaker 3: and I just think a cir you know, if if

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Speaker 3: Republicans are smart, and if if if Donald Trump, our president,

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Speaker 3: has a moment of clarity and looks at what happened

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Speaker 3: in this past contest, you know, and and see the

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Speaker 3: importance of getting people back out there. Not that I

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Speaker 3: endorse what they're doing, but I want to see that

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Speaker 3: the pain comes to an end. You know, it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: So let me jump in here. So you think they'll they'll,

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Speaker 1: you know, and the government shut down now because of

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Speaker 1: the results, I hope.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, I'm not saying that that's going to

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Speaker 3: be the case, you know, but I mean, I just

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01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 3: think we are now past what happened during his first term.

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Speaker 3: I think the record was thirty four days. Today makes

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Speaker 3: it thirty five. You know, people are hurting out here,

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Speaker 3: and I don't want it to get any worse than this.

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Speaker 3: And I fear that we may have to you know,

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Speaker 3: particularly the Democrats are gonna have to stay on the

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Speaker 3: ground because they're gonna want to see that. You know,

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Speaker 3: the Obama Affootable Care Act is left intact, that there

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Speaker 3: is an extension of that, and I'm not one to support.

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Speaker 1: And let me jump in on that part too, Wayne,

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Speaker 1: because you know, they've they've been deriding the Obamacare afford

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Speaker 1: Healthcare Act, but yet they don't have a plan. They

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Speaker 1: don't have an They still don't after all these years.

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Speaker 1: They what's your plan? I think I think one of

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Speaker 1: these folks on TV are asking the Republican, well, what

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Speaker 1: is your plan? If you do you have a health plan? No,

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Speaker 1: we'll got We'll figure it out when we get the work.

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Speaker 3: That's what he said during the campaign. And I was

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Speaker 3: watching a sort a snippet of Marjorie Taylor Green on

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Speaker 3: The View yesterday. She calls some members of her party spineless.

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean, there need to be more Republicans

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Speaker 3: coming out and just basically telling the truth of what's

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Speaker 3: going on.

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Speaker 1: Right, all left thought right there at Wayne and Reggie's well,

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Speaker 1: twenty six minutes away from the top of the media analysts, Way,

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Speaker 1: Reggie and Thomas and Wayne Gilman, you want to speak

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Speaker 1: to them about Tuesday's elections. Reach out to us. At

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight six, Thomas

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Speaker 1: has called us from Virginia is online one grand Rising, Thomas,

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Speaker 1: you're on with Reggie and Wayne.

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Speaker 4: Grand Rising.

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Speaker 5: We just witnessed a apocalypse last night and it's gonna

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Speaker 5: get even worse. For I mean, you've got the farmers upset.

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Speaker 10: You have.

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Speaker 5: If you google, this is very amazing to me. If

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Speaker 5: you google how many women lost their jobs in the

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Speaker 5: federal government, it says over three hundred thousand black women.

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Speaker 5: But if you say, if you ask the same question

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Speaker 5: to Google, how many black men have lost their job

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Speaker 5: in the federal government, it says data not found. Now

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Speaker 5: you're going to tell me there's no black men that

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Speaker 5: were laid off. So and they're saying it's a total

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Speaker 5: four hundred thousand total that have been fired from their jobs.

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Speaker 5: So you have that issue. You have the gas prices

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Speaker 5: have not went down.

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Speaker 4: You have that issue.

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Speaker 5: You have the craziness about Nigeria Venzeuela. You have also

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Speaker 5: the last one man what was the last one?

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Speaker 3: Last one should be ice?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you have you have the crazy ice raids. So

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Speaker 5: you know it's just gonna It's my thing is more,

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Speaker 5: do you Democrats have a plan?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 5: You should be working on a plan because it looks

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01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 5: like you're gonna take back the White House. You're gonna

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01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 5: take back the House and the Senate. So do you

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Speaker 5: have a plan. So I just wanted to just add

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Speaker 5: that comment that our young people seem like they're getting

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Speaker 5: the big picture. Oh and last day I was saying

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Speaker 5: about the food stamps you took away the last you

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Speaker 5: attack the poor, so people have had enough this state.

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Speaker 5: And then the ballroom. That ballroom was like unbelievable to people,

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01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 5: like you actually gonna do that with all of this

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01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 5: going on, saying you don't have any money. Man. People

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Speaker 5: are tired, people are angry, but they need to get

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Speaker 5: on the Bernie Sander's message and let that be the agenda.

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Speaker 1: That's it felt, Thanks Thomas, take a break before go

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Speaker 1: What Thomas is basically saying that Tuesday's results was a

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Speaker 1: referendum on Donald Trump and his administration. I get Reggie

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Speaker 1: and Wayne to chime in on that. When we get

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Speaker 1: back twenty three minutes away from the top day, our family,

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Speaker 1: we got to check the trafficking weather or not different cities.

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Speaker 1: You want to join this conversation with two of our

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Speaker 1: media analysts, Reggie Thomas, Wayne Gilman, reach out to us

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Speaker 1: at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy

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Speaker 1: six and we'll take your phone calls after the news update.

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Speaker 1: That's next And Grant Rising family, thanks for rolling with

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Speaker 1: us on this Wednesday morning and day after election day

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Speaker 1: with our guest the Reggie Thomas and Wayne Gilman. They

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Speaker 1: both media analysts out of New York City. We're looking

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Speaker 1: at the races, all the races. Was also looking at

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Speaker 1: the New York City race as well. Before we go

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Speaker 1: back then, we'll just remind you coming up later this morning,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna speak with the foundering and chairman and CEO,

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Speaker 1: John Hope Bryant. He's going to share some the financial

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Speaker 1: tips for us how can you be financially independent? Before

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01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 1: we talk to him, Faith was going to compare different religions,

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Speaker 1: not just Christianity, because one of them that teaches all

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Speaker 1: the faith of issues, and we're going to discuss that

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Speaker 1: as well. And tomorrow chematologist Tony Browner will be here

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01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: along with sixty civil rights activist doctor Paul Smith. So

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Speaker 1: if you are in Baltimore. Keep you radiar locked in

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01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 1: tight on ten ten WLB, or if you're in the

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Speaker 1: DMV area, we're on fourteen fifty w L. All right,

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Speaker 1: Reggie'm gonna throw it to you and if you guys

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Speaker 1: can show up on the response because we've got some

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Speaker 1: more folks who want to talk to you. Basically, the

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Speaker 1: last call of said that Tuesday's elections were a referendum

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Speaker 1: on Donald Trump's policies. What see you, Reggie?

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Speaker 10: Oh, absolutely, absolutely, it was a referendum. There were people,

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Speaker 10: I believe that when I saw when I watched, you know,

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Speaker 10: the ebbs and flow of people that were coming out

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Speaker 10: from the polls in different parts of the country. I

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Speaker 10: think that there were people who didn't understand the word referendum.

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Speaker 10: You know, the question was asked, do you think that

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Speaker 10: you're voting in the way that you are reference to

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Speaker 10: them against Donald Trump. I think some of them just

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Speaker 10: didn't understand the words. It is absolutely a referendum against

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Speaker 10: this administration and against things that have been happening, and

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Speaker 10: that you know, the first thing that came out of

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Speaker 10: the box was Doge and all the people that lost

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Speaker 10: their jobs, and there and there, and there were people

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Speaker 10: who voted uh for this administration and didn't realize what

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01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 10: was in store. And I heard something the other day

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Speaker 10: and they said that that if you're not at the table,

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Speaker 10: you're on the menu. And that's what people found that

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01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 10: they they got ate up, uh because they were not

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01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 10: uh people were at the table. They they thought that

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Speaker 10: uh that you know, they were pointing fingers, these things

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01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 10: were going to happen to the other guy. And when

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Speaker 10: they're finding that it's happening to them, they lost their jobs.

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Speaker 10: Then now they to see their children, They lost their farms,

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01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 10: now able to pay the bills, and they have to

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Speaker 10: sell off the live stop.

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Speaker 14: You know, really serious business.

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Speaker 1: And he look right there, we got some more folks

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Speaker 1: who want to talk. Both of you brothers, Reggie and

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Speaker 1: Wayne thirteen away from the top down. Mike's in Washington.

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Speaker 1: DC's online two Grand Rise and Mike. He're on with

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Speaker 1: Reggie and Wayne.

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Speaker 4: Grand Rothers and.

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Speaker 12: Mister Nelson and mister Kevinants and your guests. The Democrats

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01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 12: one point five trillion demands for reopen the government, two

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Speaker 12: hundred billion in healthcare benefits for legal aliens, repeal of

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01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 12: the billion rural hospital funds. What they do have to

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Speaker 12: fix permanent COVID subody without reform. Four million for Global

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01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 12: LBGTQ awareness campaign, four million for LBTQ democracy grants in

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Speaker 12: the Balkans, two million for Feminine Democrats and Principles in Africa.

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Speaker 12: This truck human through this in at the last second.

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Speaker 12: What happened, This is what's holding up thirteen times they

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Speaker 12: went in, sir, gentlemen, can try to reopen the government,

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Speaker 12: and they said they were gonna use the people as leverage.

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Speaker 12: That's not get that twisted. They said it themselves. They

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Speaker 12: used to people as leverage. So what happened in Northern

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Speaker 12: Virginia not expected. That's expected because Trump lost, that, Biden won, that,

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Speaker 12: Kamala won that. So Northern Virginia is all governments, so

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Speaker 12: they lost their jobs and which the cons So we

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Speaker 12: knew that was gonna happen. Anyway, New Jersey, uh strong

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Speaker 12: Democrats state, you knew that was gonna happen. Trump doesn't

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Speaker 12: have a chance in that. No, no Republicans had a

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Speaker 12: chance that at all. Also in California, I hope yesterday

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Speaker 12: California is going bro So also what's happened with that?

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Speaker 12: You're you're so right about the Healthcare Act with the

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Speaker 12: Obamacare Affordable Care Act. But see, the people don't understand

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Speaker 12: about the Affordable Care Act is that you know, millions

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Speaker 12: of dollars people, people are gonna the benefits are gonna

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Speaker 12: rise like crazy. But also the I mean the senators,

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Speaker 12: congressmen and congress women are stand to make billions of dollars.

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Speaker 12: The pharmaceutical compans billions of dollars off of this, billions up.

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Speaker 12: This should have been fixed long time ago. So that's

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Speaker 12: one a Democrat and republic is. So they're gonna make

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Speaker 12: a lot of money office, a lot of money, a

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Speaker 12: lot of money. People at the top, the poor people

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Speaker 12: and the protect first had to pay for this while

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Speaker 12: everybody else gets You can check the record all the

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Speaker 12: senators and the congress and the women that make the

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Speaker 12: money from these pharmaceutical comings right right.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna cut you just in the interest of time,

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Speaker 1: because you're just trying to repeat yourself. And I got

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Speaker 1: some more folks on to talk to Regie and Way,

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Speaker 1: and I like them to respond to what you just said.

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Speaker 1: Reggie Away, either one or you can respond to Mike.

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Speaker 3: Well, Well, I spoke of the Affordable Care Act. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to agreement with him. I mean, the thing is

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Speaker 3: is that healthcare is extremely, extremely expensive, and as you

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Speaker 3: get older, things happened, and I myself, seven years ago

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Speaker 3: came down with some of them that I totally didn't

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Speaker 3: see uh happening to me at all. I was always invincible, ate, right,

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Speaker 3: did the right things, and then surprised, boom, all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, you're you're dealt about of prostate cancer. And

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Speaker 3: then uh, you know, it's like a reality check. And uh,

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I just feel that

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Speaker 3: if I got to pay any more for my premiums

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Speaker 3: just to have the best of care. And that's the

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Speaker 3: problem with this country, you know, if I may say so,

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Speaker 3: this is just my opinion, but I mean the deal is,

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Speaker 3: we are the wealthiest planet in the world here, you know,

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Speaker 3: and and there is no reason why that we have

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01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 3: to shove out tons of money just to get the

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Speaker 3: kid the kind of kid that we that we get.

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Speaker 3: You know, you go.

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Speaker 1: To that the the Republicans, they you know, they talk

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Speaker 1: bad about their Funal Care Actor Obamacare, you know, and

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Speaker 1: they dis like that, but they don't have an they

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Speaker 1: don't have a plan, they don't have a better plan,

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Speaker 1: and they've They've had what ten years to come up

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Speaker 1: with a plan. You asked me, You just asked them

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Speaker 1: moments ago, what's your plan? What's your better plan? They

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Speaker 1: still don't have a plan when it comes to healthcare.

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Speaker 1: That's one and two. Why are we the only country

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Speaker 1: that doesn't have universal health care? Why you go next

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Speaker 1: door to Canada, you go to Europe, they take care

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Speaker 1: of their people.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Why is this country?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 1: Why is it because big farmer, the pharmaceutical industry has

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Speaker 1: so influential that we have to pay exorminant process just

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Speaker 1: for health care. And this is what Obamacare was designed

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Speaker 1: to do. So those are the questions that we need

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Speaker 1: to be answered. You know, because people you talk to

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Speaker 1: Canadians about healthcare, a lot of people in who live

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Speaker 1: in the Buffalo in western New York here, if they

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Speaker 1: have to medically, they go across the bridge in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: So that's an issue that the country needs to tackle

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Speaker 1: instead of they don't like it because Obama's name is

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Speaker 1: attached to it. That's the problem.

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Speaker 3: Oh, without question, I mean it's it's everything has been

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Speaker 3: about Obama. The ballroom is about Obama. You know, you

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't know what it is that they

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01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 3: in this obsession with him. I know that he wants

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01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 3: to leave his footprint because he's he's in the third

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Speaker 3: act of his life and you can see that his

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Speaker 3: health has declined the contrary to what his doctors are

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Speaker 3: telling him what have you. But the bottom line is

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Speaker 3: is that he wants to be cherished like as if

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Speaker 3: he was like the president that this country has never had.

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Speaker 3: And this is what it's been about. It's all ego driven.

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Speaker 3: The chaos that is going on is predicated on one's ego.

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Speaker 3: And it's just said, I mean, we're.

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Speaker 10: Not a mom.

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Speaker 1: We folks who want to talk to you. Brothers one

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Speaker 1: hundred and five zero seventy eight seventy six. Cliff coffin Connecticut,

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Speaker 1: he's online, one, Cliff, You're on with that, Reggie Thomas

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Speaker 1: and Wayne Gilman. Is Cliff Is Cliff there online? One?

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Speaker 13: Yes, there's no question Grand Risings. There's no question that

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Speaker 13: in this midterm election that the Democrats where the black,

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Speaker 13: white green that you can win. So even as we

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Speaker 13: saw the black lady down to Virginia again for those

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Speaker 13: Negroes that loved Trump and the Republican Party, he wouldn't

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Speaker 13: even endorse this sister's sister seers, So she's left out

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Speaker 13: by herself. So here's my question and references the black

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Speaker 13: leadership in twenty twenty eight, who is a presidential candidate

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Speaker 13: for the so called black leadership?

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Speaker 1: All good question, you want to responded, I'm saying, let me.

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Speaker 4: Hear with this.

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Speaker 13: This, This is the reason. What I'm saying is that

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Speaker 13: if white Democrats can have an agenda with the Black agenda,

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Speaker 13: and the black leadership should do is support and make

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Speaker 13: Kamala Harris win. She can win easily. Any damn Democrat

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Speaker 13: can win at this point. So why won't the black

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Speaker 13: so called leadership convince Kamala Harris to have a primary

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Speaker 13: at least a black wall have a candidate that they support,

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Speaker 13: rather than jumping on the bad wagon. We're white democrats.

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Speaker 11: Think of my call on.

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Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne. You want to respond to what Clift said,

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Speaker 1: I'm my.

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Speaker 4: Feeling is like this.

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Speaker 10: I understand where he's coming from, But right now we're

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Speaker 10: in such a quandary. I don't think that it is

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Speaker 10: you know that that that that black leadership is uh

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Speaker 10: is of Germane importance. Right now, I don't think it's Germane.

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Speaker 10: I think right now we need to get out of

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Speaker 10: the the the crazy staw that we're in and get

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Speaker 10: back out into the pasture so that everything goes back

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Speaker 10: to some semblance of what we're used to in this country.

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Speaker 10: What a lot of people don't understand is that what

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Speaker 10: we're seeing and what we're expancing right now was the

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Speaker 10: plan going back fifty year years ago with the Heritage Foundation,

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Speaker 10: and they're following the plan to order. That's the first

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Speaker 10: thing that every body has to remember. Now, he referenced

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Speaker 10: black people that voted for this administration, and you know,

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Speaker 10: a lot of people of what you'll find is that

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Speaker 10: there's a lot of people that don't understand the history

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Speaker 10: of the current executive, who is from New York but

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Speaker 10: you know, had his issues with with people of color,

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Speaker 10: especially black people, living in his apartment buildings and not

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01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 10: wanting to, you know, allow black people to work on

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01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 10: his real estate projects and his buildings. But this this

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Speaker 10: is a bigger issue. One of the things I saw

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Speaker 10: yesterday is that when they were endorsing Cuomo, one of

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Speaker 10: the people that came out and endorsed CMO with Stephen Miller.

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Speaker 4: Steven Miller is.

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Speaker 10: The White House seat of Scotus he's not a politician,

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01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 10: but because he's behind the scenes pulling the strings these

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Speaker 10: things that you see what's happening with Ice. They're beating

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01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 10: up people and snatching people. You know, they're using rental trucks.

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Speaker 11: Right and hold I thought.

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Speaker 1: Right there, Reggie, we got to step aside and get

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01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 1: caught up with the ladies trafficking weather in a different cities.

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Speaker 1: I'll let you finish your thought on the other side,

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01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 1: it's three minutes away from the top of they have

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Speaker 1: family speaking to with the Reggie Thomas, Wayne Gillen, both

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Speaker 1: media analysts out of New York City, discussing Tuesday's elections.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts eight hundred and four or five

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Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six will take your calls after

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Speaker 1: the trafficking weather listen next and grind rising family. Thanks

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01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 1: for staying with us on this Wednesday morning and day

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01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: after the elections day. Our guest there was Reggie Thomas

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01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 1: and Wayne Gillener, the two media analysts out of New

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01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 1: York City, looking at the race and we're just about,

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01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, flat out of town. We got a next

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Speaker 1: guest on deck, so won't be able to get to

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Speaker 1: all your calls and folks, and a lot of folks

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk with you guys. But let me just

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Speaker 1: finish up this, Reggie, because this is a tweet. It

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Speaker 1: says Grand Rising, Reggie, you've referenced the farmers describing what

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Speaker 1: happened as it was the government, but you did not

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Speaker 1: clarify to the audience or the farmers what it was

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01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 1: that you think they should see now as a more

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01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 1: clear reason that their farms are failing. Can you state

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Speaker 1: your insight of that? And Twetter goes on to say,

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Speaker 1: it's important.

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Speaker 10: All right, So let's just take the bee farmers for example.

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01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 10: You got all these bee farmers in this country, and

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Speaker 10: forty billion dollars went to Argentina, and now we're getting

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Speaker 10: an influx of Argentinean beef in the country, and people

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01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:54,680
Speaker 10: can't see directly as to what happened there. This was

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Speaker 10: something that the chief executive he gay forty billion dollars

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Speaker 10: Argentina and then told the beef farmers in the United States, Hey,

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Speaker 10: you have to bring your beef prices down because I'm

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Speaker 10: importing beef from Argentina into the country. To make you

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Speaker 10: bring your prices down. The Biden administration had a subsidy

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Speaker 10: program for farmers who wanted to make their farms more sustainable,

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01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 10: told them, hey, you go ahead and make the deals

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Speaker 10: with the banks and will help pay the loans back.

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Speaker 10: As soon as the administration changed, the current executives cut

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Speaker 10: all that away and acted like that former program didn't

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Speaker 10: even exist. Hey it's ending, it's done. And so now

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Speaker 10: you're farmers that are stuck with these loans and they

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Speaker 10: had to sell off their livestock to.

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Speaker 12: Try to pay it.

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Speaker 10: And if you don't have any life stuck, you can't

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Speaker 10: grow anything. You can't you can't develop. So many of

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Speaker 10: them are going to end up losing their farms. So

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Speaker 10: the thing is is that you have to look in

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Speaker 10: which direction it came from. I think that if Kamala

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Speaker 10: Harris had won, they would be in a situation. But

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Speaker 10: I think that a lot of what happened, uh, Conda

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Speaker 10: Mike was racist ideology. Uh in terms of not wanting

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Speaker 10: a black female as a president. Uh, not maybe wanting

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Speaker 10: a woman as a president and uh and it ended

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Speaker 10: up coming to bite them in the backside.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because we just flat out of time for you

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Speaker 1: guys and apologize for all the people who are holding

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Speaker 1: a chance to ask your questions. Got another guests coming up.

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Speaker 1: But Reggie, I agree with you because we had the

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Speaker 1: president of the Black Farmers last week with us, John Boyd,

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Speaker 1: and they're going they're really going through it, you know,

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Speaker 1: for what they've been trying to do. They see white

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Speaker 1: South Aklan farmers coming in and getting free landing there

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Speaker 1: and their land is being taken away from them or

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Speaker 1: they lose its loan designs that were designed for them

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Speaker 1: to bust. But anyway, I thank you for bringing that up,

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Speaker 1: and I thank the tweeter for that question. And Reggie,

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Speaker 1: and thank you again, fellas, thank you I sharing your

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Speaker 1: thoughts with us this morning. Thank you all right, family

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Speaker 1: any time goes by five after the top. See doctor

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Speaker 1: j Egans is on deck. Doctor Edmonds, Grand Rising, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the program.

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Speaker 4: Grand Rising to you as well. Thank you so much. Carl.

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Speaker 1: You know this is post election day. What Christianity or

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Speaker 1: any of the religions that you studied did they go into,

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Speaker 1: you know, elections, do they talk about elections?

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Speaker 4: You know, it's an individual thing when it comes down

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Speaker 4: to politics and the elections and the mechanisms that are

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Speaker 4: the various you know, political mechanisms that are utilized in

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01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 4: a race. It's it's individuals. Some some I would say

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01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 4: far right, or some Christian fundamentalists actually imbriefs what they

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Speaker 4: feel are various parts of a politicians platform.

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Speaker 1: Let's let me get to it then, Doctor Edmonds, Doctor J.

1502
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 1: Edmonds is a scholar. When he comes to religion, he

1503
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: knows all the different religions. And this is what we're

1504
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 1: going to do this morning, compare all the religions as

1505
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 1: a doctor was the late Walter Williams Towe. So all

1506
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 1: religions are man made. So we'll start on that preference

1507
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,719
Speaker 1: as first. At first, you agree with that all religions

1508
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 1: a man made, Doctor Edmunds.

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01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 4: You know, I believe that religions is man's effort to

1510
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 4: reach God. Christianity is God's attempt to reach man through

1511
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:11,639
Speaker 4: Christ's big difference. But for the yeah, for the sake

1512
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 4: of the discussion, I think that for the most part,

1513
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 4: that which is defined as religion is basically man made.

1514
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's start at the top. Ya, do

1515
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 1: all religions believe that there is one God?

1516
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 4: No, all religions do not believe that there is one God.

1517
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 4: You have Hinduism, you have Buddhism.

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01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 6: You have.

1519
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 4: Other religions that are centered around their perception of that

1520
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 4: which is greater than they are and that which cannot

1521
01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 4: be seen, that is spiritual, and that there is contact

1522
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 4: between the two.

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01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 1: So what do they believe If they don't believe there's

1524
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:09,560
Speaker 1: one God, what do they believe in? Then what's the

1525
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 1: central figure in their religions? And please name the religions for.

1526
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 4: Us, sure, no problem. You have say Hinduism or Buddhism,

1527
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 4: which deals with that which is esoteric, that which cannot

1528
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 4: be seen, but yet it is a continuing force to

1529
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 4: effect or have a positive impact on human creation, and

1530
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:49,520
Speaker 4: it continues, say reincarnation, one of the factors that are involved.

1531
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 4: You know, basically put forward that one continues, the life

1532
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 4: force of one continues until they reach Moscow or until

1533
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 4: they reach Nirvana, and they when they reach that point,

1534
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 4: then they become one with that which cannot be seen.

1535
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 4: So the force behind it is not specifically defined as God,

1536
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 4: I think called the reality of life has much much

1537
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 4: more to do with that which is outside of the

1538
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 4: scope of what people call religion. Every human being has

1539
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 4: a perception of what life is to them and whether

1540
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 4: or not there's something or someone greater than them, and

1541
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 4: I think that is what is important to consider every

1542
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 4: individual's position. You know, when I entered into studying were religions,

1543
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 4: I wanted to make sure that.

1544
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 6: What I got from it was not something to.

1545
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 4: Defend my position, but I wanted to receive information and

1546
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 4: knowledge about it. Whenever that particular entity was a religious entity,

1547
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 4: I wanted to receive knowledge and information about it so

1548
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 4: that I could understand why it was embraced the way

1549
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:53,720
Speaker 4: it was. We have a tendency as Christians to make

1550
01:38:53,880 --> 01:39:00,560
Speaker 4: a statement of absolutism without knowing what absoluteism really is.

1551
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 4: Every human being, every individual has a right to explore

1552
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:13,920
Speaker 4: what they believe is that which is outside of the

1553
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 4: scope of their humanity and greeter and have their Let

1554
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 4: me throw this in.

1555
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 1: Here for your heir, Doc doctor j Edmonds's I guess

1556
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 1: family twelve minutes after top Now we're talking about religion

1557
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:35,640
Speaker 1: right now, Doctor Edmunds. Do you believe that most of

1558
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:38,639
Speaker 1: well some of the what was written in the Bible

1559
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,839
Speaker 1: was actually stolen from our ancient ancestors in Egypt.

1560
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 4: I believe that there is a similarity in all religions,

1561
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 4: whereas the comparison within itself is from a spiritual standpoint

1562
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 4: pair what So you don't believe that the.

1563
01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:10,760
Speaker 1: The attitudes as they call it, was taken from ancient ancestors.

1564
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:16,799
Speaker 4: I believe that the the attitudes and UH and others

1565
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 4: are that which actually would come forward when there is

1566
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 4: a spiritual reference that is put that is brought.

1567
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 1: To I'm trying to understand you because you're saying a

1568
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 1: spiritual reference, but we're talking about actual facts. And I'm

1569
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 1: going to Walter Williams on you now, doctor these who

1570
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 1: were on the walls in ancient Egypt. This is stuff

1571
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 1: that our ancestors wrote about, and all of a sudden

1572
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:46,680
Speaker 1: decades later that you find him in a book called

1573
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 1: the Bible. So I know you know that.

1574
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 4: Of course.

1575
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 1: So you're saying, he's saying that the Christians sort of

1576
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 1: a miraculousy just came up with with and I'm using

1577
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 1: to be attitudes as an example. I should not kill them.

1578
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:04,600
Speaker 1: I have not lied all that kind of stuff that

1579
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 1: they was called my heart. So you and you know

1580
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. And some of the listeners understand too.

1581
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 1: So you're not you're saying that there was it was

1582
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 1: It wasn't transferred wasn't stolen from our ancestors.

1583
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:19,840
Speaker 4: Yes, of course I'm saying that. When I'm saying that

1584
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 4: is any particular religion that is put forward.

1585
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 6: There are a.

1586
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 4: Set of fundamental spiritual beliefs, and they generally deal with

1587
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 4: what one should not do as a human or what

1588
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 4: one should do as a human that would be pleasing

1589
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 4: in the eyes and the sight of that which is

1590
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 4: greater that which they worship. Number one Egypt, there was

1591
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 4: a sense of mysticism, which is outside of the scope

1592
01:41:54,439 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 4: of religion itself as we know it. That's by the

1593
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:06,760
Speaker 4: list of gods and goddesses had specific functions, and no

1594
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 4: doubt that there were various tenets that were written in

1595
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 4: hieroglyphics that were put forward for the nation itself. No

1596
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 4: doubt that is that's what it's supposed to be when

1597
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 4: you're dealing with that type of tenant. But nonetheless, it

1598
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:37,160
Speaker 4: always comes back to the spiritual attributes that which we

1599
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:46,280
Speaker 4: as humans within this linear existence, are seeking to reunite with,

1600
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 4: are seeking to identify with. That's what all of these

1601
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 4: are attempting to embrace, from the very early.

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01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 6: To the very latter.

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01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 1: That's ask this question though, because you teach it religion.

1604
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 1: Do you tell your students that all religions are man made?

1605
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 1: And do you tell them that the person that created

1606
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 1: these different religions.

1607
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 4: Yes, we do a history on each one, and as

1608
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 4: I said at the beginning, religions are man made. Christianity, however,

1609
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 4: is not a religion. You see, Christianity is Man's is

1610
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 4: God's attempt to reach man through Christ. Religion is man's

1611
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 4: effort to reach God. And so there were and are

1612
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:58,679
Speaker 4: plenty religions. I think when we began to talk about

1613
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:09,519
Speaker 4: religion itself, it is what is required of mankind to

1614
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 4: do that which is right.

1615
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 1: Doc, we'll step aside for a few moments. I guess, family,

1616
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 1: we're talking about religion. Now you got a question about

1617
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:22,680
Speaker 1: any religion. Any religion is a doctor Jay Edmonds is

1618
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 1: what he teaches, and he was telling us that it's

1619
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 1: just something that I just found out. He says that

1620
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 1: Christianity isn't a religion. I did not know that. Maybe

1621
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 1: he can explain that better for me so I can

1622
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 1: understand it. But it's seventeen minutes away from the top.

1623
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:35,639
Speaker 1: Now we got to step aside for a few moments,

1624
01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 1: and we've got some more folks want to speak to

1625
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 1: doctor Edmonds, You too can join our discussion. Just reach

1626
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 1: out to us. It's simple, it's easy. It's eight hundred

1627
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:45,040
Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll

1628
01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:48,000
Speaker 1: take your phone calls next. Okay, Yeah, my question because

1629
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:50,440
Speaker 1: because work with me now, because I thought that Christianity

1630
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:54,840
Speaker 1: it was just another religion, just like Hinduism, Islam or Judaism.

1631
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 1: You're saying it's not it's not a religion.

1632
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:01,600
Speaker 4: No, it's not a religion. Let me give me You

1633
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 4: mentioned Hinduism as I'll give you the distinction here. As

1634
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 4: I said, religion is man's effort to reach God. So

1635
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 4: think about man initiating an effort to reach what they

1636
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:18,560
Speaker 4: think is greater than they are. So you're going to

1637
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 4: have many diverse positions on that. As we were mentioned

1638
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:29,599
Speaker 4: about in Egyptology, the various gods that were set forward,

1639
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 4: man sought to reach them, to reach out to them,

1640
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 4: to get an opportunity to have some sort of relationship

1641
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 4: with them. That's not so with Christianity. It was God's

1642
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 4: attempt to reach human, God's attempt to reach his human creation.

1643
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 4: And that is the difference. Even with Hinduism. I say

1644
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:03,799
Speaker 4: most of the people in the West with their Western

1645
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 4: way of thinking. To them Hinduism and other Asian views,

1646
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:16,719
Speaker 4: that are strange because we who live in the Western world,

1647
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 4: we have a religious and cultural heritage, you see, that's

1648
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 4: the difference. It's much different from that of the people

1649
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 4: of the East. All of this have to be taken

1650
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 4: into consideration. Western thought began in ancient Greece, when we

1651
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 4: go back to that, and men like Socrates and Plato

1652
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 4: and Aristotle, they saw the universe as that which had

1653
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:52,480
Speaker 4: a plan and had a purpose. They introduced that to mankind,

1654
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:58,360
Speaker 4: and mankind sought to embrace that and have an understanding

1655
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 4: of that, to please that. And that's why these various

1656
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 4: gods were set up in ancient Greece, and idols were

1657
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 4: set up in ancient Greece, and they were given names

1658
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:18,680
Speaker 4: to see and that was their attempt, man's attempt. But

1659
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:25,720
Speaker 4: these ideas are only ideas when you get to the

1660
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 4: point of and this is what sort of caught my attention, Karl.

1661
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:40,680
Speaker 4: Every human being has a perception that should not be discounted.

1662
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:44,640
Speaker 4: You can't say to any human being because you believe this,

1663
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 4: you're wrong, that's wrong. You can't do that I mean,

1664
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 4: you could say it, but it's not legitimate. Every human

1665
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 4: being has a perception of what they think that is

1666
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:04,640
Speaker 4: is greater than they, or that which they discount. Some

1667
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:09,360
Speaker 4: don't believe at all that a god exists or that

1668
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 4: which is greater exist or a creator exists. You have

1669
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:18,400
Speaker 4: to respect that, but you want to listen to that.

1670
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:22,640
Speaker 4: You want to dialog about that. You don't want to

1671
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:29,680
Speaker 4: basically trash it, poke hoes in it or even attempt to.

1672
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 4: You want to listen as to why and how this

1673
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 4: person is perceiving that. And so it is with religions,

1674
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:48,160
Speaker 4: the one decide. I give you an example, the Morbites

1675
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 4: or the Ammonites. Their religion was predicated on what they

1676
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 4: thought to be their god, and they would make sacrifices

1677
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 4: to their god, human sacrifice vices to their gods. That

1678
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 4: was their perception, you see. And so taking all of

1679
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 4: this in together, what is the commonality that we have

1680
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 4: the people who are listening now, Some are Muslim, some

1681
01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:23,560
Speaker 4: are Hindus, some are atheists, some are gnostics, you know,

1682
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:28,640
Speaker 4: but does it discount And that's what is important. I

1683
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:33,640
Speaker 4: would like to hear what they think and how they

1684
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 4: perceive life, because after all life itself is that common

1685
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:49,640
Speaker 4: denominator between all of us as God's human creation. So

1686
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 4: what are we looking for Those who don't believe in God?

1687
01:49:53,439 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 4: Then that's a conversation that need to be had, but

1688
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:05,760
Speaker 4: not to convince them that there is a God. It

1689
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 4: is a conversation to be had because it's predicated on

1690
01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:13,800
Speaker 4: their perception of that which cannot be seen.

1691
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:16,679
Speaker 1: All right, and hold on, all right there, Doctor Edmins.

1692
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 1: So we've got some folks want to talk to you already.

1693
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:21,679
Speaker 1: Brother Corlis is reaching out t us. He's in Waldorf, Maryland.

1694
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,280
Speaker 1: He's on line one, Grand Rising, brother cos with doctor

1695
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 1: j Edmonds.

1696
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:29,639
Speaker 15: Grand Rising, My dear brothers, I do you appreciate doctor

1697
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 15: Edmunds and his knowledge. I just want to ask you

1698
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 15: a question from my own personal study. You know, from

1699
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 15: the historical point of view. SGF. Brandon in his book

1700
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 15: Jesus and the Zealous says this that the only thing

1701
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 15: we know for sure, for certain about Jesus the Christ,

1702
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 15: who also is known as you're sure Been Joseph and

1703
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:05,520
Speaker 15: also you're sure Ben Panther, is that he was crucified

1704
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 15: by the Roman government as an insurrectionist against the government

1705
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 15: of Rome. And I wanted to ask you if you

1706
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 15: have any other knowledge or any could expound on that

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Speaker 15: for me and I have a quick follow up, my

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01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:22,080
Speaker 15: dear brother.

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01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:25,439
Speaker 10: I appreciate you, Yes, Sir, a great question there.

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01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 4: You're sure been Joseph means the son of Joseph, which

1711
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 4: connects Christ with that which is human. In other words,

1712
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:39,599
Speaker 4: there is a genialogy that can be followed. And that's

1713
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:43,560
Speaker 4: why the name you're sure been son of in the

1714
01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:48,680
Speaker 4: Hebrew Joseph was used, and the writer, the author of

1715
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 4: that book, placed that there for that particular purpose. Now

1716
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 4: it is an inescapable fact that there was a crucifixion

1717
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 4: of Yashua.

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01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:03,600
Speaker 6: That that is.

1719
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 4: An inexcapable fact. The problem comes, in, sir, with whether

1720
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 4: or not he actually transcended debt and thereby bringing to

1721
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:23,080
Speaker 4: pass the saying that was actually placed years ago with

1722
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 4: the mist raw that there would be one who would come,

1723
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:32,280
Speaker 4: and that would be one who would actually be would

1724
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 4: rise from the grave and would transcend debt just as

1725
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 4: much as what happened to set or an Egyptology, As

1726
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:51,760
Speaker 4: he rose again, Horace, as he rose again, just as much.

1727
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Speaker 4: That's the comparison that I was speaking of with Carl

1728
01:52:55,360 --> 01:53:02,559
Speaker 4: earlier that in all esoteric and and all religions there

1729
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 4: is some sort of commonality when it comes down to that.

1730
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 4: But back to your your your question or your comment

1731
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 4: that was made. Yes, it is so true that it

1732
01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:22,200
Speaker 4: happened that way. But the thing of it is is

1733
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 4: one embraced that which the eyewitnesses experience. Now what eyewitnesses

1734
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:34,760
Speaker 4: that said, Yeah, we we saw him die, we saw

1735
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:39,719
Speaker 4: him nailed to that cross, we saw him placed into

1736
01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:44,920
Speaker 4: the tomb, we experience being there when he was dead,

1737
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:50,200
Speaker 4: and we saw him after that. He appeared to over

1738
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:51,599
Speaker 4: five hundred of us.

1739
01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:56,600
Speaker 1: So the thing that for a second, doctor Evans, But

1740
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:59,880
Speaker 1: wasn't that our ancestors talked about that, the creation story

1741
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:04,000
Speaker 1: and the whole thing wasn't that was that plagiarized from

1742
01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 1: our ancestors. Then you're saying that somebody saw it, did

1743
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:08,639
Speaker 1: they create reenact? If you will.

1744
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:14,040
Speaker 4: See we go. This is what I want to uh

1745
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:20,720
Speaker 4: bring to uh to the forefront on that issue of

1746
01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 4: pleasurism and all of that. There are similarities. That doesn't

1747
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 4: mean that there is pleasurism, that Christianity itself is a

1748
01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 4: position that is pledgre that is based on pleasurism based

1749
01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:47,600
Speaker 4: based on that which had happened earlier. It doesn't. It

1750
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 4: doesn't mean that there are so many things that are

1751
01:54:52,640 --> 01:55:00,760
Speaker 4: in contrast with the position of Christ and religion itself,

1752
01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 4: that it is apparent that there are differences and there

1753
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 4: are similarities.

1754
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 6: Here.

1755
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:19,160
Speaker 4: We're looking at not mysticism. We're looking at humanity Christ.

1756
01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 4: That's why I said earlier, yahsure, Ben Joseph was in

1757
01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:32,320
Speaker 4: the flesh. Horace wasn't. Set, wasn't Ices wasn't I mean, wah,

1758
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 4: wasn't They weren't in the flesh. These were mystical figures

1759
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 4: that were regarded as godheads, and they were worshiped as such.

1760
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 4: So if you start off with a mystical figure that

1761
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:57,440
Speaker 4: is regarded as a god, then what is it relative

1762
01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 4: to one trans which is not spiritual. But if you

1763
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 4: start off with one experiencing that which is relative to humans,

1764
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 4: then it has a totally different connotation to it. Because

1765
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:23,040
Speaker 4: we as human beings, know that there is a period

1766
01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:28,240
Speaker 4: of time that we're born, we experience life, and guess

1767
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:32,040
Speaker 4: what we die. We can identify with that, But I

1768
01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:34,960
Speaker 4: want you to try to identify with Horace, try to

1769
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 4: identify with Set. You can't. There's no way that you

1770
01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:43,560
Speaker 4: can because you did not start out as one that

1771
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:49,920
Speaker 4: was spiritual in nature relative to a god like form.

1772
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 6: And this is why we have the various.

1773
01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:57,600
Speaker 4: Religions that put forward for their tenants their starting position,

1774
01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:04,800
Speaker 4: such as Mormonism, such as that which reaches into saying

1775
01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:10,280
Speaker 4: that we started off as gods and then we live

1776
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 4: this life as human beings and then we go to

1777
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 4: the next life such as reincarnation for Hinduism or Buddhism.

1778
01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:26,640
Speaker 4: That's why you see the positions as they are right.

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01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 1: And dog juisp fair. If you can show up on

1780
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:30,600
Speaker 1: the responses, I appreciate. They got a bunch of folks

1781
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 1: want to talk to you, and he's twenty six away

1782
01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 1: from the top of the hour, Brother Collus, your follow

1783
01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 1: up question for doctor j Edmonds.

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01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 15: Yes, real quick, Carl, this is by deduction. My own

1785
01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:46,280
Speaker 15: perception and study is that the only whites in the

1786
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:51,680
Speaker 15: area there were Greeks and Romans and blacks. I mean

1787
01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 15: those whites were not crucified. So by deduction and other

1788
01:57:56,760 --> 01:58:01,560
Speaker 15: things and geography, know that Jesus was a black man.

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01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 15: It would have been on the FB. I most wanted

1790
01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 15: this if he was here.

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01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:09,040
Speaker 4: You're absolutely You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right.

1792
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:11,440
Speaker 15: Thank you, my dear brother. Appreciate you.

1793
01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:13,680
Speaker 4: Right, thank you, thank you.

1794
01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 1: Brother Carlus twenty six away from the top of the

1795
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 1: regis in Washington. He's online four grand rising Reggie, A

1796
01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 1: question for doctor.

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01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:23,080
Speaker 6: Edmunds grand riding.

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01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:32,280
Speaker 5: Uh, Brother, I think that the the I think that

1799
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:39,200
Speaker 5: the confusion comes in when we deal after Noah. I'm

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01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 5: sure you're clear on who Noah's great grandfather was. Are

1801
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:46,920
Speaker 5: we clear on me saying that that his great grandfather

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01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 5: was Enoch?

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01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:50,760
Speaker 10: That's correct.

1804
01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:57,000
Speaker 5: And the ark was built on Mount Ararat, and they

1805
01:58:57,080 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 5: said God dwells on Mount Ararat, and that's where Moses

1806
01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:06,360
Speaker 5: received the commandments on Mount Ararat. I'm just showing the

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01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:12,360
Speaker 5: connection of Enoch. Enoch said the secret name revealed to

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01:59:12,520 --> 01:59:19,880
Speaker 5: him of God was aravat a ararah a v A T.

1809
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:22,600
Speaker 5: And when it was asked to one of the Faith

1810
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:26,480
Speaker 5: brothers that same question, he said he had never heard

1811
01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:31,000
Speaker 5: of that God. Now, I think that was a lie.

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01:59:32,040 --> 01:59:36,920
Speaker 5: So why are we not talking about the secret name

1813
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:41,520
Speaker 5: of God and the God that was revealed to Enoch?

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01:59:42,640 --> 01:59:42,800
Speaker 15: Why?

1815
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:46,320
Speaker 5: What's wrong? That's okay? Why we're coming up short.

1816
01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:49,640
Speaker 4: That's it, that's it, okay. Let's let's let's try to

1817
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:51,360
Speaker 4: not come up short. We don't want to do that.

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01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 4: I don't recall. I don't know, but perhaps you're right.

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01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:03,080
Speaker 1: I hold up the Doctor Edmunds because we come up

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Speaker 1: on a break. I don't want to break your rhythm

1821
02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:06,760
Speaker 1: because I know you want to respond to Reggi's question.

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Speaker 1: And Reggie, I thank you for your question. We've got

1823
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:11,200
Speaker 1: to step aside for a few moments. We come back. Family,

1824
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:13,560
Speaker 1: you want to join this conversation with doctor Jay Edmunds.

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02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:15,640
Speaker 1: Is fifty percent of the Faith Brothers reach out to

1826
02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:18,160
Speaker 1: us at eight hundred and four or five zero seventy

1827
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Speaker 1: eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls next

1828
02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:22,920
Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family, thanks for rolling with us on

1829
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:25,320
Speaker 1: this Wednesday morning, day after the election day. We're talking

1830
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:28,920
Speaker 1: religion with doctor Jay Edmunds. Doctor Jay Edmunds, fifty percent

1831
02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:31,920
Speaker 1: of the Faith Brothers, the other Face Brothers out traveling,

1832
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:35,320
Speaker 1: so we give him some traveling advice or wherever he's

1833
02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:38,360
Speaker 1: going and thinking about him. Of course that would be

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02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:43,160
Speaker 1: Dtor Jerry, doctor j Edmunds. Night away from the top

1835
02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:45,040
Speaker 1: of the hour, coming up later this morning and speak

1836
02:00:45,080 --> 02:00:48,440
Speaker 1: with CEO John Hope Brian's going to give us some

1837
02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:51,800
Speaker 1: tips how to, you know, become financially independent. And tomorrow

1838
02:00:51,800 --> 02:00:54,680
Speaker 1: we're going to be joined by chemtologist Tony Browner, sixty

1839
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:57,640
Speaker 1: civil rights actsast doctor Paul Smith will also be with us. So,

1840
02:00:57,800 --> 02:01:00,000
Speaker 1: doctor Emas, I'll let you finish your response to Reggis quest.

1841
02:01:00,200 --> 02:01:01,800
Speaker 1: So we still got a bunch of folks that want

1842
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:03,560
Speaker 1: to talk to and shut up on the answers. I'll

1843
02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:04,120
Speaker 1: appreciate it.

1844
02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:09,200
Speaker 4: I will do my best, Sir, Reggie. That was a

1845
02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:14,320
Speaker 4: very intuitive question that is centered around Enoch. I just

1846
02:01:14,440 --> 02:01:17,160
Speaker 4: want to just give you just a little bit more

1847
02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:24,240
Speaker 4: information relative to Enoch himself. Enoch in chapter one of

1848
02:01:24,400 --> 02:01:30,120
Speaker 4: the Book of Enoch, when we're talking about who he

1849
02:01:30,400 --> 02:01:35,360
Speaker 4: is and what he wanted to display, the word of

1850
02:01:35,480 --> 02:01:40,640
Speaker 4: the Blessing of Enoch, how he blessed the elect and

1851
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:46,440
Speaker 4: the righteous who were to exist in the time of trouble.

1852
02:01:47,840 --> 02:01:54,600
Speaker 4: He rejected all wickedness, he rejected all ungodliness. Enoch was

1853
02:01:54,680 --> 02:02:00,880
Speaker 4: a righteous man who was with God. He and he

1854
02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:06,000
Speaker 4: spoke with God while his eyes were open, and while

1855
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:09,960
Speaker 4: he saw a holy vision in the heavens, God revealed

1856
02:02:10,040 --> 02:02:14,320
Speaker 4: to him concerning the holy angels. Now I wanted to

1857
02:02:14,600 --> 02:02:21,320
Speaker 4: just speak toward the arc itself not built on Araq,

1858
02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:26,720
Speaker 4: but it settled on Iraq when the flood subsided. It

1859
02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:31,840
Speaker 4: settled there on Arac. All of the things concerning Enough

1860
02:02:31,960 --> 02:02:37,440
Speaker 4: which God showed him existed because he walked with God

1861
02:02:37,960 --> 02:02:42,200
Speaker 4: and God just took him. God translated him and took him.

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02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:46,080
Speaker 4: He did not see death at all. And those things

1863
02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:50,960
Speaker 4: were deal to him. And those things concerning the angels

1864
02:02:51,080 --> 02:02:57,320
Speaker 4: of God in the time right after creation, those things

1865
02:02:57,440 --> 02:03:02,560
Speaker 4: itself themselves were the things that Enoch was putting forth.

1866
02:03:02,840 --> 02:03:07,400
Speaker 4: That's why you'll find him actually in the Book of Jude,

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02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:10,680
Speaker 4: that only chapter. There is only one chapter in Jude,

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02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:15,240
Speaker 4: and it speaks about Enoch himself. So I think it

1869
02:03:15,400 --> 02:03:20,400
Speaker 4: is worthy to bring that up and bring him up

1870
02:03:20,480 --> 02:03:24,520
Speaker 4: in all teachings as it relates to Christianity and to

1871
02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:29,360
Speaker 4: understand what his purpose was and how God and why

1872
02:03:29,480 --> 02:03:30,440
Speaker 4: God chose.

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Speaker 1: Him all right. Sixteen away from the top of that,

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Speaker 1: Jerry's up next. Thea's Online five is coming from Southeast DC.

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising. Jerry, your question for doctor Edmunds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Grand Rising, Doctor, I appreciate you, but some things

1877
02:03:45,880 --> 02:03:49,920
Speaker 4: that I've been studying doesn't make sense. To me, if

1878
02:03:49,960 --> 02:03:54,080
Speaker 4: we're all creations of this creator, in our perception and

1879
02:03:54,280 --> 02:03:58,400
Speaker 4: understanding of the creator is where we are born, when

1880
02:03:58,520 --> 02:04:03,720
Speaker 4: we are born, what culture we're born in. And also,

1881
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:09,560
Speaker 4: if you said earlier about God, Christianity was God's attempt

1882
02:04:09,640 --> 02:04:12,240
Speaker 4: to reach man? If he created us, he doesn't have

1883
02:04:12,360 --> 02:04:15,920
Speaker 4: to reach us. I mean just by who we are

1884
02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:20,080
Speaker 4: as human beings. If he created the whole world, then

1885
02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:23,480
Speaker 4: don't we all have a way or connection with him.

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02:04:23,840 --> 02:04:27,880
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna wrap up with this. I believe this

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02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:30,720
Speaker 4: is just my belief. I'm not really a religious person,

1888
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:36,840
Speaker 4: but unless you are a life study of history, anthropology,

1889
02:04:37,680 --> 02:04:41,680
Speaker 4: a religion, and philosophy, you know the average person doesn't

1890
02:04:41,720 --> 02:04:44,240
Speaker 4: have time to do that. So I believe that our

1891
02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:46,600
Speaker 4: job he is to be the best human being you

1892
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:48,959
Speaker 4: can be. I don't wait for your response.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

1894
02:04:51,200 --> 02:04:55,920
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a very very important question that's put forward,

1895
02:04:56,040 --> 02:05:00,680
Speaker 4: and I think it's worthy of acceptation when it comes

1896
02:05:00,760 --> 02:05:04,840
Speaker 4: down to that you said, and I'll say this succinctly

1897
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:09,360
Speaker 4: and brief you said, if God is God, he why

1898
02:05:09,480 --> 02:05:14,080
Speaker 4: does he have to attempt to reach man? It is

1899
02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:18,800
Speaker 4: not for his sake, It is for our sake to

1900
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:24,280
Speaker 4: get to understand and know who he is. So it

1901
02:05:24,440 --> 02:05:28,400
Speaker 4: is his attempt to reach us on the level that

1902
02:05:28,600 --> 02:05:32,400
Speaker 4: we are. How do you do that? Through Christ? You see,

1903
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:37,480
Speaker 4: to reach us so that we can acknowledge who he is.

1904
02:05:40,160 --> 02:05:44,600
Speaker 4: And I really applaud you for your transparency. You said,

1905
02:05:44,920 --> 02:05:49,440
Speaker 4: you said, I'm not really one who you know engage

1906
02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:54,360
Speaker 4: in that. But I would say to you, sir, that

1907
02:05:55,320 --> 02:06:01,240
Speaker 4: the commonalogy is life within us. Life is a reality

1908
02:06:02,440 --> 02:06:07,000
Speaker 4: that we cannot ignore. We should celebrate that life.

1909
02:06:07,160 --> 02:06:07,440
Speaker 6: Life.

1910
02:06:07,920 --> 02:06:11,920
Speaker 4: I answer, you can't die yesterday, the next second is

1911
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:15,960
Speaker 4: not promised to your life is life is right now

1912
02:06:16,280 --> 02:06:19,880
Speaker 4: at this very moment, and that's what we are experiencing

1913
02:06:20,880 --> 02:06:25,320
Speaker 4: in this life. God is attempting to reach us, to say,

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02:06:25,600 --> 02:06:29,520
Speaker 4: acknowledge who I am and let me reveal to you

1915
02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:36,800
Speaker 4: what I have for you. All right, That's what he's doing.

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02:06:38,120 --> 02:06:40,480
Speaker 1: Some more folks wanted to speak with doctor j Edmonds.

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Speaker 1: Anthony's calling from DC's online six Grand Rising. Anthony. You're

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Speaker 1: on with doctor j Edmonds.

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Speaker 16: Thank you, thank you taking my call. I just got

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Speaker 16: one question for the the guests. I just want to

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Speaker 16: know if he followed the King James Bible, and if so,

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Speaker 16: what bible did our ancestors bottle before the Europeans gave

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Speaker 16: us the King James Bibelon.

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Speaker 4: Great question, Sir, I think that the Bible is no

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Speaker 4: more than a collection of books written at different times

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Speaker 4: by different artists for the purpose of revealing who God is.

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Speaker 4: But the actual letters that were written, say, to Ethiopia,

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Speaker 4: there were letters that were written from those who were

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Speaker 4: eye witnesses of Christ, from those who had experienced that

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Speaker 4: which is outside of the scope of humanity, meaning the

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Speaker 4: miracles and things of that nature. They wrote certain letters

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Speaker 4: to various churches, churches simply meaning in the Greek is eclosia,

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Speaker 4: meaning the called out ones the believers. They wrote certain letters.

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Speaker 4: These letters were compile as manuscript and they were kept together,

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Speaker 4: and that's what we call a book.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: That which is within the King James was a translation,

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Speaker 4: and it translated from the language into Latin, first the

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Speaker 4: Latin Vulgate, and from the Latin Vulgate it was translated

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Speaker 4: into English. However, some of those translations did not include

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Speaker 4: what it's called transliteration. In other words, I can translate

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Speaker 4: a word, say if it's Spanish ola in English high right,

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Speaker 4: so the same thing apply Greek to English. If it's Greek.

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Speaker 4: Say spirit is English. In the Greek, it's numa. Well

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Speaker 4: in the Greek. Just to translate spirit the English word

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Speaker 4: or from the Greek rather to English is without the literation.

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Speaker 4: If I don't have the meaning the transliteration unless I

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Speaker 4: have the meaning in the Greek. Those letters that were

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Speaker 4: written to Ethiopia and to other places did not say spirit,

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Speaker 4: because that's in English words. It did not even say numa.

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Speaker 4: Within the context of numa, it said breadth living when.

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Speaker 4: So when someone says the spirit of God is within me,

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Speaker 4: they're actually saying, in the original context, the breath living

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Speaker 4: when of God is within me. So some of that

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Speaker 4: was left out, sir, in the translation itself, from various

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Speaker 4: people who were attempted to make these these these translations

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Speaker 4: of the letters that were written by the apostles and

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Speaker 4: by others to the churches.

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Speaker 1: All right, ten away from the top, they are some

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Speaker 1: more folks want to speak to doctor Evans. I have

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Speaker 1: questions for him. Alex is calling from Alexandra, and Virginia

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Speaker 1: is online. One grand Rising, Alex You're on with doctor Edmonds.

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Speaker 11: Saloon and shaloone to all the believers of the Torah.

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Speaker 11: All right, my question. Thank you, brother, my my, My

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Speaker 11: question to you is why haven't you speak doing This

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Speaker 11: is a confusing part for the people, But why haven't

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Speaker 11: you speak doing the the BCE and uh uh ce

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Speaker 11: and those who are not familiar with that, the BCE

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Speaker 11: that's before coming coming era and common yeah, coming era,

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Speaker 11: so correct. So if you read scriptures clearly, it clearly

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Speaker 11: states that Jesus came on this early four hundred years

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Speaker 11: after the Laura was written. So how can he be God?

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Speaker 11: How can he be God?

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Speaker 4: That's a great question, sir. And actually it was a

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Speaker 4: little more than four hundred years. The Torah. Some people

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Speaker 4: think that were written in a short period of time,

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Speaker 4: but it was not. It took some time for that

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Speaker 4: because you have to understand that the Torah represents the law.

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Speaker 4: It represents what God stated from the very beginning. But

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Speaker 4: also within the Torrah you have the five books of Moses,

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Speaker 4: which are the Picpa Tuk, and God took time in

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Speaker 4: the process of reviewing that to Moses so that everything

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Speaker 4: else rests upon the Pentatuk. And from that that was

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Speaker 4: an establishment of the Torrah. And various acts that were

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Speaker 4: performed by Ezra, say well say by David and Solomon

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Speaker 4: and all that's built upon the pinkertook itself. The time structure,

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Speaker 4: it seems, and it's a very good question that you're

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Speaker 4: concerned about, has been adjusted and with no reason at all.

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Speaker 4: I found that very curious that it was adjusted, because

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Speaker 4: the manifestation of God, God was manifested in the flesh.

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Speaker 4: And that simply means that God, being a spirit, to

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Speaker 4: be manifested in the flesh, has to have a body

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Speaker 4: to actually integrate himself with his human creation so that

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Speaker 4: they'll know he feels what they're feeling. He didn't have

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Speaker 4: to do that, but he did it. That's why he

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Speaker 4: walked among us. Now, that body itself was prepared for him.

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Speaker 4: It had to be, as you know in the tor rocks,

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Speaker 4: there cannot be any unholiness. It had to be a

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Speaker 4: sure body, flesh that was prepared for him. And that's

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Speaker 4: why we have the virgin birth, uh, the one who

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Speaker 4: was a virgin who never experienced.

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Speaker 11: But I disagree with that. I just I disagree with that,

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Speaker 11: that that virgin birth because we all as human beings

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Speaker 11: know that I'm the only way to conceive is between

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Speaker 11: man and woman. That that that's that's that's how birth

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Speaker 11: uh beguns right there. It's no doubt about it. There's

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Speaker 11: no such thing of No. No, I'm not even to

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Speaker 11: believe that part there, No, okay, because we all know

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Speaker 11: that that's that's true.

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Speaker 4: That's fair, sir. Now let me ask this question because

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Speaker 4: I know you believe in God. I know you believe

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Speaker 4: that correct, because you believe in the Torah. Now let

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Speaker 4: me ask you that is anything too hard for God?

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Speaker 4: I'll ask you that question. God works outside but God

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Speaker 4: too hard for him? Yes, he works out Okay, he

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Speaker 4: works outside of our of the scope of what we

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Speaker 4: can do or think that we can achieve. After all,

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Speaker 4: in the Torah it did say that God spoke the

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Speaker 4: Word into exist, the world into existence. He spoke these

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Speaker 4: things into existence. So if God is able to speak

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Speaker 4: these things into existence, if he's able to actually take man,

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Speaker 4: according to Genesis chapter two, verse seven, from the dust

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Speaker 4: of the ground, breathe the roakh the Hebrew word, who

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Speaker 4: are breadth living like into his nostril, and man become

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Speaker 4: a living So how simple is is it for him

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Speaker 4: to say, I will choose a body that is pure,

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Speaker 4: and my spirit will flow over that body and within

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Speaker 4: that body in the womb of that person will be

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Speaker 4: a holy thing. You think that's too hard for God

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Speaker 4: to do. It's not, sir, and I understand exactly when

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Speaker 4: we attempt to see things from humanist to standpoint, we

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Speaker 4: will run into those walls. But when we go back

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Speaker 4: to as you have mentioned, the Torah and all of

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Speaker 4: the wonderful, magnificent things that God did by showing himself

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Speaker 4: strong in the Torah, in the Pentituch, we know there's

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Speaker 4: nothing impossible for God or with his power. He saved

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Speaker 4: Israel with his power. He gave them dominance over all

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Speaker 4: of the nations. He worked miracles in the wilderness. He

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Speaker 4: parted the Red Sea with his power.

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Speaker 8: He did that.

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Speaker 4: So it's a very small thing. Just as He keeps you,

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Speaker 4: he keeps eye, keep keep our keep me. We breathe,

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Speaker 4: we live, we move, We have our being in him.

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Speaker 4: Says to to lie in the Libiticus. The things that

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Speaker 4: we cannot do that God wants us to do. Christ

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Speaker 4: made sure that those things were covered our inequities, our inabilities.

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Speaker 6: That's why.

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Speaker 1: Doctor edmunds, we gotta step ausid and getting for a

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Speaker 1: few monts. We got stations can identify themselves down the line,

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Speaker 1: and when we come back. I got a tweeter one

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Speaker 1: of you know, did God create any other beings like aliens?

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Speaker 1: We got interesting audience this morning, three minutes away from

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Speaker 1: the top of our family. Speak to doctor j Edmunds

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Speaker 1: fifty percent of the Faith Brothers you can reach you

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Speaker 1: about eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy

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Speaker 1: six and we take your phone calls. Next and Grand

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Speaker 1: Rising family factually sticking with us on this Wednesday morning here,

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Speaker 1: first Wednesday in November. I guess it's doctor Jay had

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Speaker 1: been the Faith brother list before we left her hat

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Speaker 1: a twitter called into the studio wanted to know if

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Speaker 1: God created other beings like aliens. So what say you, Doctor.

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Speaker 4: Edmands, I say yes to her or he whoever it

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Speaker 4: was it called in.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: There were beings that were in heaven, in that realm

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Speaker 4: that means outside of the scope of that which is linear.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 4: There were beings that were created prior to mankind, and

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Speaker 4: they were angelic, and Enoch names them. I hate to,

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Speaker 4: you know, shock some people here, but it is named

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Speaker 4: as to those beings in Enoch chapter seven, the Book

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Speaker 4: of Nuch. It said it happened after the sons and

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Speaker 4: men had multiplied in those days that the daughters that

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Speaker 4: were born to them were elegant and very beautiful. But

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Speaker 4: the aliens, the angels, the sons of heaven, looked at them,

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Speaker 4: and they became enamored of them, saying to each one,

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Speaker 4: come and let us select for our own selves wives.

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Speaker 4: And they did, and they had children by them. And

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Speaker 4: it named some of these aliens, named some of these

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Speaker 4: angels angelic creatures. Samyazi was one of them. He was

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Speaker 4: the leader of them. It names them as to what

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Speaker 4: they did and how they did what they did, and

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Speaker 4: as a result of what they did, there were giants

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Speaker 4: in the areas at that time. Netholins. These are things

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Speaker 4: that these are ancient writings, the Book of Enoch and

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Speaker 4: other books that are mentioned in biblical scripture. And it

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Speaker 4: set forth that God created angel in heaven first, and

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Speaker 4: anything that is an ailing outside of the scope of

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Speaker 4: what we believe or what we call as normality. We

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Speaker 4: are simply humans. That's who we are. We're humans. We're

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Speaker 4: living in this dimension. Until something is presented to us

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Speaker 4: outside of the scope of our understanding and our logic

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Speaker 4: and our philosophical concepts, we remain with this view. That's

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Speaker 4: why they actually crucified Jesus because he did things that

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Speaker 4: were outside of the scope of their human understanding. Who

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Speaker 4: walks on water? Who does that? He challenged humans to

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Speaker 4: believe that, who raises the dead, who hears the sick,

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Speaker 4: give sight to the blind? Who does that? It's outside

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Speaker 4: of the scope of our human thought and human understanding.

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Speaker 4: So what we regard if anything is outside of the

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Speaker 4: scope of our human understanding, we regard it being suspicious

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Speaker 4: as whether or not it is true.

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Speaker 1: And that's why we had right there doc before after

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Speaker 1: the top there, because I got this tweet from a

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Speaker 1: brother says he's a Muslim, and he says that Jesus

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Speaker 1: was just another prophet like Adam, Noah, Moses. Are they

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Speaker 1: relegating I guess he didn't answer asked the questions. I'll

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Speaker 1: asked the questions because he mentioned that are they relegating

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Speaker 1: Jesus just to another prophet? Are they correct or are

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Speaker 1: they wrong?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: They are.

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Speaker 4: They look at Jesus as being just a prophet, another prophet,

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Speaker 4: and Muhammad as being the last, final and greatest prophet.

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Speaker 4: But the question remains, what did Muhammad himself do relative

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Speaker 4: to that which is consistent with that which is outside

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Speaker 4: of the scope of our human In other words, Muhammed

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Speaker 4: actually received a message from that one of those aliens

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Speaker 4: that we were talking about angelic being and mount him

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Speaker 4: while in a cave, he received a message from Gabriel,

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Speaker 4: and Gabriel said, I want you to remember these things

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Speaker 4: that I'm telling you. So Muhammed received from an angelic being,

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Speaker 4: received from a celestial being, received from that which is

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Speaker 4: regarded spiritual. Whereas quite is that Christ well in the flesh.

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Speaker 1: Yes, doctor, we've got a cutting Egg's got another guess standing.

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Speaker 1: But I just want to thank you for a flying

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Speaker 1: solo this morning with listen answering all our questions about religion,

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Speaker 1: because I know that's that's in your wheelhouse when it

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Speaker 1: comes to religion. That's what you teach. And some people

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Speaker 1: think you just know about Christian but you know all

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Speaker 1: of the religions. So we appreciate and thank you for

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Speaker 1: sharing your thoughts with us this morning.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, sir. I really appreciate and appreciate your audience

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Speaker 4: for those questions.

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Speaker 1: All right, family, we're going to turn that attention to

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Speaker 1: money now. John Hope Brien is joining us at John

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Speaker 1: Hope Brian grand Rising, John Welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 1: John's Online one, Kevin Living Legend Man. You're a living legend,

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Speaker 1: John John. First, before I get all the questions, how

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Speaker 1: did a guy from Compton make it to where you

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Speaker 1: made it today? Because some of our listens to this

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Speaker 1: is going to be the first time they're hearing you.

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Speaker 1: So I tell a family it's a brother from Compton,

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Speaker 1: I grew up in south central Los Angeles and he's

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Speaker 1: maybe it a pinnacle of finance. So John, how did

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Speaker 1: how did your journey start?

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Speaker 6: Well, the journey began when, of course my mom and

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Speaker 6: my dad. My mother told me she loved me every

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Speaker 6: day of my life, and I believe it. My dad

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Speaker 6: headed own business and gave me a powerful sense of

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Speaker 6: yes I can. I later found out us to admitterate later,

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Speaker 6: but I didn't know that going up. So to my dad,

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Speaker 6: I got a sense of yes I can. World Modeley

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Speaker 6: my mother, I got a sense of yes I am.

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Speaker 6: Self esteem and identity. Those two things I'd lamp down

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Speaker 6: out later were absolutely key, more than almost anything else

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Speaker 6: in setting up your identity. Yes I am, Yes I can.

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Speaker 6: Self esteem, esteeming yourself, not be in love with yourself,

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Speaker 6: not you go tripping just loving yourself, holding complete knowing

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Speaker 6: that you're God's child and believing that and then take

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Speaker 6: from that. You know the story, Carl I was. I

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Speaker 6: went through trauma. My mom and dad divorced when I

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Speaker 6: was four or five years old in south central LA.

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Speaker 6: My mother moved with the girlfriend of hers to save money.

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Speaker 6: Was like I was like six. I remember the guy

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Speaker 6: who was the girlfriend of my mother's with the boyfriend

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Speaker 6: of my mother's girlfriend that we were staying with to

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Speaker 6: save money so she would buy a house. He saved

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Speaker 6: my life and I was drowning in my own liquidity.

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Speaker 6: I was swallowing my tongue on his portrait, falling backwards.

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Speaker 6: He got killed in front of me over money.

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Speaker 3: Then I went.

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Speaker 6: We moved to Content, she bought our first house in

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Speaker 6: Content one five five oh to South Freightly Avenue. Uh.

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Speaker 6: My best friend got murdered down the street from me

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Speaker 6: with my next one neighbor who was a drug dealer,

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Speaker 6: over money. So I got I began I understand how

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Speaker 6: important money was very early. It destroyed it built a

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Speaker 6: family network, you know, with my family owned the gas

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Speaker 6: station and that apartment building and all that stuff in

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Speaker 6: the home on a high school education because they hustled.

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Speaker 6: But my dad was initially illiterately lost every thing, including

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Speaker 6: the marriage. Then I saw two people murdered.

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Speaker 5: All this was over money.

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Speaker 6: The new money was important girl, But why weren't we

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Speaker 6: keeping it? And how is it that our pursuit of money,

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Speaker 6: even though black people were brilliant and are brilliant, we've

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Speaker 6: been doing so much with so little, with so for

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Speaker 6: so long. We can almost do anything with nothing. So

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Speaker 6: how has it been brilliant people? Carl h somehow we're

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Speaker 6: in the prison, probation, parole, death. How's that happening? So

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Speaker 6: one I became obsessed with money. That was one book

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Speaker 6: in the other book in my life, saw these book ins,

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Speaker 6: I told you, yes, I am, yes, I can Okay,

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Speaker 6: Now money is important. Okay, what's the other piece? Well?

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Speaker 6: I found the other piece was wealth. And wealth is

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Speaker 6: what you you know building your sleep. It's not just

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Speaker 6: financial wealth, it's mental wealth, psychological, spiritual wealth, emotional wealth.

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Speaker 6: If you have that cup, that reservoir, it keeps you

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Speaker 6: from making stupid visions, so you don't win the battle

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Speaker 6: and losing war. You don't rearrange the tax years of

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Speaker 6: the Titanic in your life, you don't make silly decisions

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Speaker 6: and are short termism. And so when I was in content,

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Speaker 6: we owned that house and my mother in the house.

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Speaker 6: She worked that job had me down though it was

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Speaker 6: aircraft hourly, and she also had made handicrafts part time

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Speaker 6: and soul goes for extra money. So I saw my

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Speaker 6: mother hustle man. She wasn't lazy. And when she had

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Speaker 6: laid off at the job, she came to beat. She

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Speaker 6: would ask for whatever job was available in my school.

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Speaker 6: Janitor jobs available, I'll take it. The security jobs available,

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Speaker 6: I'll take it. Drove me nuts. But she was president

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Speaker 6: in my life. This is encompon. So I had this.

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Speaker 6: When I was nine years old. This banker, white banker

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Speaker 6: from Bang of America came into my classroom to teach

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Speaker 6: financial literacy with a class called off Whole Economics. And

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Speaker 6: he came once a week for six weeks, and all

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Speaker 6: my friends were laughing, joking, distracted because of my background.

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Speaker 6: It showed you my history. I was focused on, Okay,

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Speaker 6: what's this other piece? I know money's important. How can

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Speaker 6: we make it legally so I can get out the

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Speaker 6: hood permanently and take everybody with me? And I asked

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Speaker 6: the banker this question, Carl, I think it was nine

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Speaker 6: years old, nine quarter What do you do for a living, sir?

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Speaker 6: And how'd you get rich legally? And he said, I'm

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Speaker 6: a banker and our finance and entrepreneurs. I said, so,

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Speaker 6: I don't know what an entrepreneur. I've never heard that

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Speaker 6: word in my entire life, but whatever it is, it

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Speaker 6: is legal. I just recorded to put my own podcast

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Speaker 6: on telling this whole story and long form of people

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Speaker 6: want to listen to. Its my Money and Wealth podcast,

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Speaker 6: and you download it for free and it'll be out

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Speaker 6: next Thursday. I said it was legal, and you're financing it.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to be one and uh he sort of

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Speaker 6: laughed and chuckled the banker, but he sort of saw

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Speaker 6: the serious look at my face too, and I was,

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Speaker 6: you know, I was destined to figure out how this

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Speaker 6: guy got well. He had a car and the partner

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Speaker 6: a lot and had a tag on it was brand

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Speaker 6: new on told us he was dressed maca macularly dressed.

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Speaker 6: He had a suit on. He wasn't a detective, wasn't

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Speaker 6: a bad horrible looking suit. I didn't know this, like

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Speaker 6: Megan Marsham. So I asked the guy the last question.

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Speaker 6: Are there more of you? He said, there's many of

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Speaker 6: the bankers in America as wad. And your job is

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Speaker 6: to live poor people money. Yep, he said, And all

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Speaker 6: I gotta do is prove I can pay it back. Yep.

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Speaker 6: He's not racist, he said, Well I will ever thought

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Speaker 6: about it. I mean, but you know, not in what

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Speaker 6: we're talking about. I mean, I took a nice person

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Speaker 6: and it was you would lend me money if I

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Speaker 6: canna prove I can't pay it back. Yes, that's what.

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Speaker 6: We don't make any money untus. We lived it out,

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Speaker 6: he told me. And and I said, and I don't

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Speaker 6: get did murdered if I don't pay them money back?

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Speaker 6: And he laughed again. Call he said, why don't I

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Speaker 6: do that?

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Speaker 15: You know?

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Speaker 6: He like, no, we sure know there's a default, it's

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Speaker 6: a bank. After you give me a piece of paper, yes,

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Speaker 6: I said, Okay, I'm done. I'm in. And so you

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Speaker 6: know the rest of the story is, of course, as

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Speaker 6: you know, Carols quite detailed. But essentially my whole life

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Speaker 6: was formed by that one book. In the second one

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Speaker 6: was I took that experience and started my first business

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Speaker 6: the next year, which was the neighborhood candy house in Common, California,

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Speaker 6: and there was a black man who owned a liquor store.

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Speaker 6: So here the first world model was his white dude,

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Speaker 6: the banker. The next role model was this black guy

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Speaker 6: who owned the business of my neighborhood, a liquor store

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Speaker 6: and sol candy. And I went to the liquor store

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Speaker 6: on a kral and offered to partner with him. I

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Speaker 6: didn't even know what the phrase meant back then, but

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Speaker 6: this banker told me clock collaborations. I offered to join

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Speaker 6: ninsure with him, to say, this liquor store, candy shop,

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Speaker 6: this a little candy counter, and I was gonna put

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Speaker 6: him out of business. I told him if he didn't

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Speaker 6: partner with me, I was ten now, and he laughed

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Speaker 6: at me. People We didna laugh.

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Speaker 8: People.

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Speaker 6: People underestimate me at their own peril. And anyway, I

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Speaker 6: worked long enough for him to figure out where he

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Speaker 6: bought his products from the inventory. Quit opened up my

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Speaker 6: own business at ten years of age and literally put

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Speaker 6: him out of the candy business. He's still set in liquid,

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Speaker 6: but he wasn't selling candy anymore. So where I am

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Speaker 6: today is a founder was set. That foundation was set

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Speaker 6: by my mother telling me. She loved me, right, so

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Speaker 6: let's her agree. My dad showed me he was a businessman.

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Speaker 6: But that showing having hit me a payroll out of

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Speaker 6: front the front door of the house did stay in

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Speaker 6: my brain. There's these two role models, this white banker

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Speaker 6: and this like businessman that you know challenged me and

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02:30:52,760 --> 02:30:54,879
Speaker 6: sort of poked the bear and showed me a way

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Speaker 6: out of the hood. And if you look at what

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Speaker 6: I'm doing now, it's a scale car, including the deal

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Speaker 6: that I've just announced three days ago for two hundred

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Speaker 6: and fifty million dollars affordable housing let CIM Group out

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Speaker 6: of Los Angeles, all the businesses, my philanthropic work, it's

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Speaker 6: really it's sophisticated now and all that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 6: and that I have hundreds of employees and we're the

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Speaker 6: biggest of the country of what we do in three categories.

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Speaker 6: But it was it shows that anybody listening to your program, brother,

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Speaker 6: can do it. I mean, there's nothing I just said.

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Speaker 6: It's rocket science. You don't need to create an app.

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02:31:30,360 --> 02:31:33,000
Speaker 6: You can't ai what I'm talking about. In other words,

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Speaker 6: the artificial intelligence is not going to took me out

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Speaker 6: of business. You don't need to be a genius to

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Speaker 6: do what I just said. You don't need to be

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Speaker 6: a physicist. You don't need to have an advanced master's

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Speaker 6: or doctor degree. Do what I just said. You know,

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Speaker 6: if my friend Telly wrestler, who want to get my

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02:31:48,000 --> 02:31:51,480
Speaker 6: mount hawks what my business partner says, if you don't quit.

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Speaker 3: You can't fail.

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Speaker 6: I just never quit. I was nosy. I put my

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Speaker 6: head down and I didn't pull my head up to

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02:31:58,840 --> 02:32:03,560
Speaker 6: be distracted by my broke friends. If you hang around

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Speaker 6: nine both people, you'll be the tenth and a lot

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Speaker 6: of my well intentioned friends they met well, Carl, they

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Speaker 6: met well, they were broke man. So I don't listen

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Speaker 6: to both people. I don't get advice from broke people.

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Speaker 6: And you know, do some very basic principles.

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Speaker 1: Uh, I know that thought right there, John, we gotta

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Speaker 1: step aside for a few moments, Okay, because you heard

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Speaker 1: what he said, don't hang around with broke folks. Seventeen

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Speaker 1: minutes after the top of the I'm gonna come back.

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Speaker 1: John's gonna help us out because a lot of people

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Speaker 1: listening to us at governor employees have been laid off, furloughed.

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Speaker 1: If you will, may not had a chance to go

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Speaker 1: back to work and he's going to help us out

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Speaker 1: with that and also talk about some of the programs

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Speaker 1: that he has in his portfolio that you can get

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Speaker 1: involved as well. As I mentioned it's seventeen after the

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Speaker 1: top day, I would take your phone calls for John Hope,

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Speaker 1: Briant next and Grand Rising family. And thanks for rolling

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Speaker 1: with us on this Wednesday morning day after the elections.

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Speaker 1: I guess it is John Hope Brian. John is a

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Speaker 1: financial advisor to say least, is very successful in what

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Speaker 1: he's done. And John, before the break, I asked to

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Speaker 1: howl about some of our folks here in the DMV

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Speaker 1: area in Baltimore or government workers have been laid off

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Speaker 1: or furloughed and not knowing where the next bill is

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02:33:13,800 --> 02:33:16,280
Speaker 1: coming from and snap programs are stopped. You see all that.

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Speaker 1: You know what's going on in the news. What can

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Speaker 1: you do for them?

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Speaker 6: John? Yeah, First of all, I'm not a financial advisor.

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Speaker 6: Just causes really clear about think I'm not a licensed

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02:33:25,080 --> 02:33:27,200
Speaker 6: to any of that stuff. I'm an entrepreneur, I'm a businessman.

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Speaker 6: You didn't call me a Philantha bid sir. I'm a

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Speaker 6: problem solver, yes, and I'm not a just clear amount

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Speaker 6: of financializer. My people who work for me, Carl, they

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02:33:37,400 --> 02:33:41,760
Speaker 6: are financial coaches. They're certified in financial coaching at Operation Hope,

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Speaker 6: and I am willing to give a one thousand dollars

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02:33:45,200 --> 02:33:48,600
Speaker 6: coaching scholarship for services which allows them to get access

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02:33:48,720 --> 02:33:52,560
Speaker 6: to my people with expertise for free. For anybody listening

2356
02:33:52,600 --> 02:33:55,920
Speaker 6: to this program, they can download the Hope in Hand

2357
02:33:56,080 --> 02:34:01,560
Speaker 6: app or go to my Operation Hope website or call

2358
02:34:01,760 --> 02:34:06,160
Speaker 6: eight eight eight three eight eight Hope and tell them

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02:34:06,200 --> 02:34:09,400
Speaker 6: that John Brian Carl Nelson sent them and we will

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Speaker 6: give them initially a one thousand dollars credit for financial coaching. Again,

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02:34:14,800 --> 02:34:18,000
Speaker 6: nothing out of their pocket. And then they need additional

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02:34:18,120 --> 02:34:20,560
Speaker 6: help again and the excite your name and my name

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02:34:21,040 --> 02:34:26,000
Speaker 6: up to five thousand dollars in additional financial coaching. Again

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02:34:26,080 --> 02:34:28,880
Speaker 6: no money out of their pocket at no time, whether

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02:34:28,920 --> 02:34:31,240
Speaker 6: there be any dollars out of the people's pockets. This

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02:34:31,360 --> 02:34:34,160
Speaker 6: is not We don't charge for our services. We select

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02:34:34,200 --> 02:34:36,800
Speaker 6: who are going to provide services to based on the

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Speaker 6: sincerity and the need, but we don't charge people. I

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02:34:42,320 --> 02:34:46,400
Speaker 6: raise money myself at Operation Hope so that I can

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Speaker 6: offset the costs of providing these services to our people.

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Speaker 6: So I have offices in forty two states, and I

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02:34:53,879 --> 02:34:57,440
Speaker 6: yes have offices in Maryland and in Baltimore. So folks

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02:34:57,440 --> 02:34:59,600
Speaker 6: are going to have issues where the credit card companies

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02:34:59,760 --> 02:35:03,640
Speaker 6: are well, we can talk and negotiate on their behalf

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02:35:04,320 --> 02:35:07,040
Speaker 6: with the credit of our companies to give them some

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02:35:07,480 --> 02:35:10,520
Speaker 6: to buy them some time. People don't know that in situations,

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Speaker 6: whether it's a presidential emergency, a natural disaster, or a

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02:35:14,200 --> 02:35:18,720
Speaker 6: man made emergency like this ridiculousness in Washington, that credit

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Speaker 6: our companies in major institutions are obligated and or just

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02:35:24,320 --> 02:35:27,000
Speaker 6: in you know, it's it's in their best interest to

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02:35:28,080 --> 02:35:33,880
Speaker 6: negotiate a delay in any pursuit for payment for it

2382
02:35:33,920 --> 02:35:36,480
Speaker 6: doesn't do them any good to throw somebody against the

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02:35:36,520 --> 02:35:40,439
Speaker 6: wall economically and force them into a situation where they're defaulting,

2384
02:35:40,800 --> 02:35:43,360
Speaker 6: and in this situation is not their fault, and so

2385
02:35:43,520 --> 02:35:46,640
Speaker 6: we can advocate on their behalf. We've got the credibility

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02:35:47,120 --> 02:35:50,640
Speaker 6: to talk to landlords, to talk to credit our companies,

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02:35:51,480 --> 02:35:57,400
Speaker 6: to talk to debtors in general, warners companies. That's something

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02:35:57,520 --> 02:36:00,200
Speaker 6: we have been doing. We did the two thousand eight

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02:36:00,280 --> 02:36:02,800
Speaker 6: mortgage crisis, We've done in every government shut down. We

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Speaker 6: do it in natural disasters. This is something we do.

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02:36:06,440 --> 02:36:09,280
Speaker 6: It's not just helping people get qualified in good times

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02:36:09,320 --> 02:36:12,920
Speaker 6: and helping people restruct their lives like this in tough times,

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02:36:12,959 --> 02:36:16,560
Speaker 6: so we can basically get the pressure, help get the

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02:36:16,600 --> 02:36:21,600
Speaker 6: pressure off of them financially so they can breathe until

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02:36:21,879 --> 02:36:26,080
Speaker 6: this government shutdown is over, which is hopefully so.

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Speaker 1: All right, family, if you didn't get that number where

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Speaker 1: we repeat it before John leaves us. But John and

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Speaker 1: Monte's calling from DC has a question for yours online too,

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising, Monteo and John.

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Speaker 7: Hope Briant, Grand Rising, car thanks for having me, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 11: Your question for John, Oh, good morning, good on.

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Speaker 14: I was calling because I wanted some financial advice, Like

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02:36:51,440 --> 02:36:54,879
Speaker 14: I've been saving and studying for a while and listening

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02:36:54,959 --> 02:36:56,960
Speaker 14: to the show, and I wanted to know is just

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02:36:57,120 --> 02:37:01,039
Speaker 14: a good time that basically for me into the markets,

2406
02:37:01,240 --> 02:37:04,039
Speaker 14: because I'm trying to do something like what you did

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02:37:04,480 --> 02:37:07,359
Speaker 14: and help me first in my family and my neighborhood,

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02:37:07,840 --> 02:37:09,720
Speaker 14: you know, in the community, you know, to try to

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02:37:10,200 --> 02:37:13,560
Speaker 14: be fighting finanswer your literary and I want to know

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02:37:13,680 --> 02:37:16,000
Speaker 14: just a good time you know, to join the market

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02:37:16,600 --> 02:37:19,040
Speaker 14: or an invest or, you know, just some strategy.

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Speaker 6: So, first of all comm commendations to you, my man.

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02:37:24,360 --> 02:37:27,240
Speaker 6: I was smiling from here to ear as you talked

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02:37:27,240 --> 02:37:32,560
Speaker 6: about the steps you've taken, uh to foundation in your life.

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02:37:33,120 --> 02:37:35,360
Speaker 6: I love that everything you said is right on. You

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02:37:35,440 --> 02:37:39,520
Speaker 6: can't help anybody else unless you help yourself first. The first,

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02:37:40,200 --> 02:37:44,120
Speaker 6: the first philosophy of poverty eradication is make sure you're

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02:37:44,160 --> 02:37:47,800
Speaker 6: not poor yourself. And uh so I love that you're

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02:37:48,360 --> 02:37:52,000
Speaker 6: being focused on a savings plobal program. Get your credit,

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02:37:52,640 --> 02:37:55,720
Speaker 6: get your consumer credit under control, save a little bit,

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02:37:56,240 --> 02:37:58,720
Speaker 6: you know, make sure your alfloaks that doesn't need your

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02:37:58,760 --> 02:38:02,000
Speaker 6: inflow or otherwise your overhead over your downfall. You've done

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Speaker 6: all that stuff. You have the right mindset, your being focused,

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02:38:05,840 --> 02:38:11,960
Speaker 6: and there's always oh my god, man, your credit score is.

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Speaker 7: Man's been doing my work.

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02:38:14,080 --> 02:38:15,000
Speaker 11: I've been doing my work.

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Speaker 6: Fantastic. That's fantastic, brother. But I Carl when I go

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02:38:18,920 --> 02:38:22,959
Speaker 6: through airports now the TFA agents who are now working

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02:38:23,000 --> 02:38:25,360
Speaker 6: for free, by the way, at the moment, God bless them,

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02:38:25,840 --> 02:38:28,080
Speaker 6: TFA agents are screaming their credit score.

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02:38:27,879 --> 02:38:28,280
Speaker 4: Is at me.

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Speaker 6: Yo, John lying, man, I'm six fifty, I'm seventy forty.

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Speaker 4: That's cool.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 6: We got to make this the new civil rights issue

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02:38:35,440 --> 02:38:38,119
Speaker 6: in our community is financial literacy is a civil rights

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02:38:38,160 --> 02:38:41,320
Speaker 6: issue of this generation. It's as important it's the right

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02:38:41,360 --> 02:38:43,880
Speaker 6: to vote. In Your credit score might be as important

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02:38:43,879 --> 02:38:46,880
Speaker 6: as a four year education might be. And this brother's

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02:38:46,920 --> 02:38:50,480
Speaker 6: credit score over eight hundred. He's in the top, you know,

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02:38:50,760 --> 02:38:53,640
Speaker 6: five percent of the whole country. In fact, his credit

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02:38:53,680 --> 02:38:58,879
Speaker 6: score is better than mine. I carry my different orders. Yes, yes,

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02:38:59,000 --> 02:39:01,680
Speaker 6: my credit score is about two seven eighty five, So

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Speaker 6: you're doing better than me.

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Speaker 7: Brother.

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Speaker 6: Now I am text and for context, I have to

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02:39:08,440 --> 02:39:12,000
Speaker 6: you know, for dance. You know, when I'm traveling around

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02:39:12,040 --> 02:39:16,240
Speaker 6: the country, I put the organizations, my nond pop and

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02:39:16,320 --> 02:39:18,200
Speaker 6: my full profit. I put all their expenses on my

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02:39:18,280 --> 02:39:20,880
Speaker 6: credit card and I get reimbursed at the end of

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02:39:20,920 --> 02:39:25,320
Speaker 6: the month from the different organizations. So the credit bureaus

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02:39:25,720 --> 02:39:28,440
Speaker 6: look at my heavy credit card debt and wonder if

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02:39:28,440 --> 02:39:30,520
Speaker 6: I have some kind of a drug addiction or something.

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02:39:30,560 --> 02:39:33,400
Speaker 6: Because it's so much. I pay it down, but it's

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02:39:33,400 --> 02:39:37,320
Speaker 6: a lot. So because I have I run balances, even

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02:39:37,360 --> 02:39:40,440
Speaker 6: though I pay them down, I get deemed for that.

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02:39:40,560 --> 02:39:42,160
Speaker 6: It's looked at my credit score right now it's like

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Speaker 6: seven eighty, So you are twenty five points better than me.

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02:39:48,520 --> 02:39:51,720
Speaker 6: And that is brilliant. And you are in the top quartile.

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02:39:51,760 --> 02:39:55,240
Speaker 6: If you aren't married, somebody's gonna want to propose to

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02:39:55,360 --> 02:39:59,440
Speaker 6: you real soon. Protect that credit score with your life.

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02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:02,560
Speaker 6: Don't let anybody mess it up, and check it every

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Speaker 6: few days. Okay, less Number one, great job. Number two.

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02:40:05,720 --> 02:40:09,840
Speaker 6: There's always opportunities in the marketplace to invest always, but

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02:40:10,000 --> 02:40:13,360
Speaker 6: be careful, please don't do so. There's three budgets you need.

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02:40:13,400 --> 02:40:16,520
Speaker 6: You need a living budget, you need an investment budget.

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02:40:17,320 --> 02:40:19,480
Speaker 6: You need a sort of a speculation or I call

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02:40:19,520 --> 02:40:23,600
Speaker 6: a bleeding budget. Do not do number three before you

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02:40:23,680 --> 02:40:27,120
Speaker 6: do one and number two. So cryptocurrency, which people think

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02:40:27,160 --> 02:40:30,200
Speaker 6: I'm against, I'm not. I just don't like speculation when

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02:40:30,240 --> 02:40:33,240
Speaker 6: we are not handled the basics. I would not invest

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02:40:33,280 --> 02:40:36,000
Speaker 6: in cryptocurrency unless you've done well number one and number two.

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02:40:36,840 --> 02:40:39,920
Speaker 6: Most cryptocurrencies have gone bankrupt. Actually there's only one people

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Speaker 6: talk about, which is bitcoin. But there's twenty thousand of

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02:40:42,680 --> 02:40:45,160
Speaker 6: them and most of them would bust. And a lot

2476
02:40:45,200 --> 02:40:46,760
Speaker 6: of it is people who look like us who thought

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Speaker 6: they were going to get rich quick. So I would

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02:40:49,959 --> 02:40:52,920
Speaker 6: do some foundational They are also going to get in

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02:40:52,920 --> 02:40:55,080
Speaker 6: the market, and I am in the market. I do

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02:40:55,200 --> 02:40:57,480
Speaker 6: think the market is a little frothy right now. I

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02:40:57,560 --> 02:41:01,879
Speaker 6: think the market is a little heed it, and there

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02:41:01,959 --> 02:41:04,320
Speaker 6: will be a market collection at some point. But I

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02:41:04,440 --> 02:41:07,720
Speaker 6: still invest in things that I buy. So I go

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02:41:07,920 --> 02:41:10,199
Speaker 6: shop it. I'll say it. I go shop at a Walmart,

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02:41:11,440 --> 02:41:14,440
Speaker 6: I buy Walmart stock. I go shop it. You know,

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02:41:14,680 --> 02:41:19,879
Speaker 6: I wear under armor, I use Apple products. You think

2487
02:41:19,920 --> 02:41:22,080
Speaker 6: about the stuff that you have in your life that

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02:41:22,240 --> 02:41:25,440
Speaker 6: you have confidence in, that you use every day. Go

2489
02:41:25,560 --> 02:41:28,280
Speaker 6: buy those companies. Buy a little bit of it. Buy

2490
02:41:28,320 --> 02:41:31,040
Speaker 6: it modestly, put it, you know, put it aside, do

2491
02:41:31,200 --> 02:41:34,160
Speaker 6: not sell. I buy and I release. I buy good stuff,

2492
02:41:34,760 --> 02:41:36,640
Speaker 6: and I put it in my portfolio and I forget

2493
02:41:36,680 --> 02:41:39,480
Speaker 6: about it. I don't day trade. I don't sit there

2494
02:41:39,520 --> 02:41:41,720
Speaker 6: and you know, try to time and market. I think

2495
02:41:41,720 --> 02:41:45,280
Speaker 6: that's a mistake. You can also buy fractional shares, which

2496
02:41:45,360 --> 02:41:47,240
Speaker 6: means you can buy if you have twenty you only

2497
02:41:47,280 --> 02:41:49,720
Speaker 6: have twenty bucks to invest, and it's a two thousand

2498
02:41:49,720 --> 02:41:52,440
Speaker 6: dollars share, you know, put a fractional share account. My

2499
02:41:52,920 --> 02:41:55,520
Speaker 6: team at Operation can help you figure out which account

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02:41:55,520 --> 02:41:57,920
Speaker 6: to open. We don't guide you on stocks, We don't

2501
02:41:57,920 --> 02:42:00,360
Speaker 6: tell you which whatever you know it's bad to use

2502
02:42:00,400 --> 02:42:02,880
Speaker 6: whatever we give you the different choices. We empower you

2503
02:42:03,040 --> 02:42:05,359
Speaker 6: and you make the choice. But you pick a fractional

2504
02:42:05,400 --> 02:42:09,120
Speaker 6: share company and for ten bucks, twenty bucks, one hundred bucks,

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02:42:09,120 --> 02:42:12,160
Speaker 6: whatever you've got, you can buy a percentage of the

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02:42:12,240 --> 02:42:15,320
Speaker 6: best stocks in the world. And here's a little thing

2507
02:42:15,400 --> 02:42:18,440
Speaker 6: that nobody tells you. Once you buy one share of

2508
02:42:18,600 --> 02:42:22,840
Speaker 6: any stock, that company owes you access to all their financials,

2509
02:42:23,200 --> 02:42:26,120
Speaker 6: all of them. So now you get to look inside

2510
02:42:26,160 --> 02:42:28,560
Speaker 6: of some of the smartest companies in the world and

2511
02:42:28,720 --> 02:42:31,360
Speaker 6: learn how they're running things, and to use that as

2512
02:42:31,400 --> 02:42:33,920
Speaker 6: a model to run your own life while they're making

2513
02:42:34,000 --> 02:42:36,920
Speaker 6: money for you, as you're now an adjuster. So I

2514
02:42:36,959 --> 02:42:39,640
Speaker 6: would encourage you to do those things. Stay, protect your

2515
02:42:39,640 --> 02:42:43,040
Speaker 6: credit score, ignore the noise in your life. Stay focused.

2516
02:42:43,360 --> 02:42:45,760
Speaker 6: People are not going to understand you. Ego zone line pacts.

2517
02:42:47,080 --> 02:42:49,320
Speaker 6: Buy something you're familiar with and you use all the

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02:42:49,360 --> 02:42:52,760
Speaker 6: time a foundational stock, Buy and hold. I do the

2519
02:42:52,800 --> 02:42:55,000
Speaker 6: same thing with real estate. I don't flip real estate.

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02:42:55,560 --> 02:42:56,000
Speaker 3: I buy it.

2521
02:42:56,200 --> 02:43:00,320
Speaker 6: You don't own a home, buy a home as you

2522
02:43:00,360 --> 02:43:02,600
Speaker 6: can because real estates is going to go up in value.

2523
02:43:04,000 --> 02:43:05,800
Speaker 6: You know, real estate, there's three things that have never

2524
02:43:05,879 --> 02:43:10,040
Speaker 6: gone down in the Remember history, over time, GDP, gross

2525
02:43:10,040 --> 02:43:13,560
Speaker 6: domestic park, the income of the country, real estate values,

2526
02:43:14,680 --> 02:43:19,160
Speaker 6: stock market values. They go up. There's a recession, they receive.

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02:43:19,280 --> 02:43:23,240
Speaker 6: That's what recession means, by the way it recedes, all right,

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02:43:23,320 --> 02:43:26,199
Speaker 6: because there's because of large leaders have made dumb moves,

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02:43:26,360 --> 02:43:29,800
Speaker 6: or the economy has gotten over ambitious, overly ambitious, or

2530
02:43:29,879 --> 02:43:33,760
Speaker 6: greed took over. And then what we do typically we

2531
02:43:33,959 --> 02:43:37,520
Speaker 6: sell on the dip. We get freaked out, and we

2532
02:43:37,720 --> 02:43:42,480
Speaker 6: sell good assets, and then the economy recovers and it

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02:43:42,600 --> 02:43:45,520
Speaker 6: corrects above the line. So you're gonna be better off

2534
02:43:45,600 --> 02:43:48,920
Speaker 6: if you hold on the good stuff, good stocks, the

2535
02:43:49,080 --> 02:43:52,320
Speaker 6: real estate, good businesses, and you just ride it through.

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02:43:52,920 --> 02:43:57,120
Speaker 6: It had every time recovered more valuable than what the

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02:43:57,240 --> 02:43:57,840
Speaker 6: loss was.

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Speaker 14: So those are my advices, and I appreciate your advice,

2539
02:44:03,879 --> 02:44:08,160
Speaker 14: and I'm definitely on that three step program. I've already

2540
02:44:08,240 --> 02:44:11,080
Speaker 14: divided my incomes up. That's why I said I'm ready,

2541
02:44:11,520 --> 02:44:14,680
Speaker 14: because I've already got my regular income, my savings, and

2542
02:44:14,760 --> 02:44:17,080
Speaker 14: i got my income that I'm ready to invest with.

2543
02:44:18,160 --> 02:44:21,080
Speaker 6: So you're on the track. You obviously pay attention to

2544
02:44:21,160 --> 02:44:23,959
Speaker 6: me and me and missus Nelson looking in my part.

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02:44:24,040 --> 02:44:24,400
Speaker 4: I heard you.

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02:44:24,680 --> 02:44:25,760
Speaker 6: My people are Operation Hope.

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02:44:27,080 --> 02:44:29,240
Speaker 14: Yeah, I heard you maybe three months ago when you

2548
02:44:29,400 --> 02:44:32,240
Speaker 14: came on and you was said the same thing, by

2549
02:44:32,360 --> 02:44:36,199
Speaker 14: what you used in your house, and yeah, I started

2550
02:44:36,200 --> 02:44:38,800
Speaker 14: with that route right there, looking at the things around

2551
02:44:38,840 --> 02:44:40,240
Speaker 14: my house that I use every day.

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Speaker 6: Beautiful. You give me hope, man, You give me hope.

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02:44:46,480 --> 02:44:49,800
Speaker 1: Twenty eight away from the topice, I thank you. Called John.

2554
02:44:49,920 --> 02:44:53,240
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about the Hope Global Forums that you're having.

2555
02:44:53,480 --> 02:44:54,840
Speaker 1: Can you explain what those are?

2556
02:44:56,680 --> 02:45:00,840
Speaker 6: Yes, it's already a capacity actually, which is the it's

2557
02:45:00,879 --> 02:45:03,640
Speaker 6: more than a month out, but it's about a month

2558
02:45:03,680 --> 02:45:07,720
Speaker 6: out December one through third here in Atlanta, Georgia. People

2559
02:45:07,800 --> 02:45:10,680
Speaker 6: can still sign up to even request to be a delegate.

2560
02:45:10,720 --> 02:45:13,280
Speaker 6: You can't. You cannot pay to come to this meeting.

2561
02:45:13,560 --> 02:45:16,720
Speaker 6: You cannot invite yourself to this meeting. You have to

2562
02:45:16,800 --> 02:45:19,800
Speaker 6: be invited to this meeting as a delegate. It is

2563
02:45:19,879 --> 02:45:24,760
Speaker 6: the largest meeting for the empowerment of the underserved in

2564
02:45:25,000 --> 02:45:30,120
Speaker 6: the world, and I founded it as part of Operation Hope.

2565
02:45:30,120 --> 02:45:33,080
Speaker 6: Has been going on holy meetings for about twenty years now.

2566
02:45:33,160 --> 02:45:35,560
Speaker 6: In the last eleven years has been done here in Atlanta,

2567
02:45:36,640 --> 02:45:40,480
Speaker 6: which is the moral capital of America. My wife calls

2568
02:45:40,560 --> 02:45:46,920
Speaker 6: it the Black Waconda. But it's about five thousand delegates here.

2569
02:45:47,080 --> 02:45:51,480
Speaker 6: They come to Atlanta, and about fifteen million people watched

2570
02:45:51,520 --> 02:45:55,080
Speaker 6: it online last year. And we have some of the

2571
02:45:55,120 --> 02:45:58,280
Speaker 6: biggest leaders in the world that'll be with us. And

2572
02:45:58,680 --> 02:46:01,840
Speaker 6: if people go to whole Global form dot org or

2573
02:46:02,000 --> 02:46:04,240
Speaker 6: just search that on their phone or on the internet,

2574
02:46:04,280 --> 02:46:08,760
Speaker 6: they'll see a list of the speakers. The listen so

2575
02:46:08,879 --> 02:46:12,000
Speaker 6: long that I can't to walk you through it without

2576
02:46:12,040 --> 02:46:15,040
Speaker 6: wasting Dieu time on this program. But if many of

2577
02:46:15,080 --> 02:46:19,480
Speaker 6: people's heroes, heroes and sheroes that they admire will be there.

2578
02:46:19,640 --> 02:46:24,560
Speaker 6: It's billionaires next to one hundred millionaires, next to millionaires,

2579
02:46:24,840 --> 02:46:28,920
Speaker 6: next one hundred thousandaires, texture somebody trying to buy some there,

2580
02:46:29,800 --> 02:46:33,240
Speaker 6: they're all together, black, white, red, brown, yellow, colors green,

2581
02:46:33,879 --> 02:46:36,040
Speaker 6: and we're touched. We're showing You're showing you how to

2582
02:46:36,120 --> 02:46:37,119
Speaker 6: become self reliant.

2583
02:46:37,200 --> 02:46:38,320
Speaker 4: The theme this year is.

2584
02:46:38,480 --> 02:46:44,720
Speaker 6: Future proofing, future proofing yourself because the government the world

2585
02:46:44,840 --> 02:46:48,400
Speaker 6: has sort of said, you're on your own and we're

2586
02:46:48,440 --> 02:46:50,920
Speaker 6: going to teach you. Okay, if I sort of like

2587
02:46:51,000 --> 02:46:53,560
Speaker 6: somebody telling me exactly what they feel right by the way,

2588
02:46:53,560 --> 02:46:56,520
Speaker 6: I like you telling me the truth, I can deal

2589
02:46:56,560 --> 02:46:58,520
Speaker 6: with that. So you tell me you don't care about me.

2590
02:46:58,640 --> 02:47:01,400
Speaker 6: I'm on my own, okay, Then let me get prepared

2591
02:47:01,480 --> 02:47:05,280
Speaker 6: to be self reliant. It's a James Brown version of

2592
02:47:05,280 --> 02:47:08,400
Speaker 6: affirmative action. Open the door. I'll get it myself. And

2593
02:47:08,520 --> 02:47:10,480
Speaker 6: so we teach you how to go get it yourself

2594
02:47:10,520 --> 02:47:14,520
Speaker 6: and how to keep it to be a responsible capitalist.

2595
02:47:15,320 --> 02:47:18,360
Speaker 6: Bishop TD Jakes, just a couple of names there, the

2596
02:47:18,480 --> 02:47:22,800
Speaker 6: CEO of Delta Airlines, Mayor of Atlanta, Andre Dickens who

2597
02:47:22,879 --> 02:47:26,800
Speaker 6: just got re elected last night, Ambassador civil rights icon,

2598
02:47:27,080 --> 02:47:32,480
Speaker 6: my hero Bassard Andrew Young Van Jones, Michael Milkin, billionaire,

2599
02:47:33,320 --> 02:47:36,280
Speaker 6: the guy who financed Reginald Lewis. By the way, Killer Mike.

2600
02:47:36,520 --> 02:47:38,320
Speaker 6: The people know it's a rapper, but he's also a

2601
02:47:38,400 --> 02:47:43,199
Speaker 6: great businessman. Byron Allen, who is billion dollar deal and TV,

2602
02:47:44,440 --> 02:47:47,840
Speaker 6: the CEO of Zillo, the owner of the Fantasy for

2603
02:47:47,959 --> 02:47:51,280
Speaker 6: forty nine ers, the president of Shopify, Harley Finkelstein, Jed

2604
02:47:51,320 --> 02:47:53,880
Speaker 6: Geork owns the forty nine ers, Doctor Sanjay Goop does

2605
02:47:53,959 --> 02:47:56,800
Speaker 6: Stephen A. Smith, the owners of Atlanta Hawks, my brother

2606
02:47:56,879 --> 02:48:01,000
Speaker 6: Tomy wrestler, Charlemagne Day, God, etc. Reggie Jackson, I mean

2607
02:48:01,160 --> 02:48:04,160
Speaker 6: is Bernie Doctor Britney say King Strive out the Year

2608
02:48:04,200 --> 02:48:08,920
Speaker 6: from Africa. Don Peebles, billionaire real estate developer, So it

2609
02:48:09,000 --> 02:48:12,039
Speaker 6: could be pretty in many many mores, that'd be Janis

2610
02:48:12,040 --> 02:48:15,400
Speaker 6: Brian hot Bridan, Howroyd's whether billion dollar black woman, whether

2611
02:48:15,520 --> 02:48:19,560
Speaker 6: billion dollar staffing company? Sarah Jakes Roberts.

2612
02:48:20,720 --> 02:48:21,680
Speaker 7: This is D T. D.

2613
02:48:21,800 --> 02:48:25,840
Speaker 6: Jake's daughter who's now running the Potter's House in many, many,

2614
02:48:26,000 --> 02:48:30,440
Speaker 6: many more. December one through three. People can do listening parties,

2615
02:48:30,480 --> 02:48:34,560
Speaker 6: watch parties from their house. They can offer their work whatever,

2616
02:48:34,560 --> 02:48:38,560
Speaker 6: they can organize watch parties under operationals banner and go

2617
02:48:38,640 --> 02:48:40,720
Speaker 6: to the website for Home Global Form and sign up

2618
02:48:40,760 --> 02:48:43,520
Speaker 6: to host a watch party for the form. We'll give

2619
02:48:43,560 --> 02:48:46,680
Speaker 6: them credentials to be able to access the exclusive video

2620
02:48:46,760 --> 02:48:47,600
Speaker 6: feed to be able to do that.

2621
02:48:49,360 --> 02:48:53,400
Speaker 1: No cast, All right, that sounds exciting and all they

2622
02:48:53,440 --> 02:48:55,199
Speaker 1: got to do is do just go to the website.

2623
02:48:55,240 --> 02:48:56,360
Speaker 1: Can you give that website again?

2624
02:48:56,480 --> 02:48:59,800
Speaker 6: To the website and request a request to be a

2625
02:49:00,080 --> 02:49:02,160
Speaker 6: look at it may or may not be approved at

2626
02:49:02,200 --> 02:49:04,880
Speaker 6: this point to be there in person, but request to

2627
02:49:05,240 --> 02:49:08,200
Speaker 6: host a watch party, and my guess is they will

2628
02:49:08,240 --> 02:49:09,600
Speaker 6: be authorized to do that.

2629
02:49:11,160 --> 02:49:12,920
Speaker 1: All right. Twenty three away from the top of that

2630
02:49:13,000 --> 02:49:14,920
Speaker 1: gonna take one more break. When we come back out

2631
02:49:14,959 --> 02:49:16,400
Speaker 1: a teeter tweeter. I want to know, is this a

2632
02:49:16,440 --> 02:49:18,360
Speaker 1: good time to get into real estate. I'll let you

2633
02:49:18,520 --> 02:49:19,320
Speaker 1: respond to that question.

2634
02:49:19,360 --> 02:49:21,800
Speaker 6: Always a good time. It's always a good time to

2635
02:49:21,879 --> 02:49:25,160
Speaker 6: get into real estate if you're around real estate, that's

2636
02:49:25,200 --> 02:49:33,920
Speaker 6: around jobs, transportation, economics, vitality, and vibrancy. Yes, and you

2637
02:49:34,000 --> 02:49:36,040
Speaker 6: want to I'll let you expound.

2638
02:49:36,320 --> 02:49:37,840
Speaker 1: I'll let you expound on that when we get back

2639
02:49:37,879 --> 02:49:39,680
Speaker 1: twenty three minutes I mentioned away from the top of

2640
02:49:39,760 --> 02:49:41,880
Speaker 1: that with John Hope, Briant Family. You want to get

2641
02:49:41,920 --> 02:49:43,400
Speaker 1: in the money business, it is the person you need

2642
02:49:43,480 --> 02:49:46,040
Speaker 1: to listen to or go to one of his conferences

2643
02:49:46,080 --> 02:49:47,959
Speaker 1: as he mentioned, and you could call him right now

2644
02:49:48,000 --> 02:49:50,360
Speaker 1: at eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight

2645
02:49:50,680 --> 02:49:52,840
Speaker 1: seventy six, and we'll take your phone calls. Next and

2646
02:49:53,040 --> 02:49:55,480
Speaker 1: Grand Rising Family eighteen minutes away from the top of

2647
02:49:55,560 --> 02:49:58,360
Speaker 1: that with John Hope, right before we go back to

2648
02:49:58,360 --> 02:50:00,480
Speaker 1: and let's remind you tomorrow Tony B is going to

2649
02:50:00,560 --> 02:50:03,160
Speaker 1: join us in sixty civil rights activity. Doctor Paul Smith

2650
02:50:03,200 --> 02:50:05,520
Speaker 1: will be here. So if you are in Baltimore, keep

2651
02:50:05,520 --> 02:50:08,080
Speaker 1: you ready to tuned into ten ten WLB or if

2652
02:50:08,120 --> 02:50:11,199
Speaker 1: you're in the dmv R on fourteen fifty WL. John

2653
02:50:11,320 --> 02:50:13,680
Speaker 1: Gary's call us from Baltimore has a question for You's

2654
02:50:13,720 --> 02:50:16,520
Speaker 1: online too, Gary grand Rising, John Hope.

2655
02:50:16,360 --> 02:50:19,480
Speaker 17: Bryant's gone a great day with great blessings from the

2656
02:50:19,560 --> 02:50:22,280
Speaker 17: Lord who made up or made this wonderful day for

2657
02:50:22,480 --> 02:50:26,800
Speaker 17: us to you a brother, Brother Bryant, John Hope Bryant,

2658
02:50:27,480 --> 02:50:28,080
Speaker 17: A Greetings.

2659
02:50:28,560 --> 02:50:29,160
Speaker 7: I have a daughter.

2660
02:50:30,320 --> 02:50:35,480
Speaker 17: She's quite interested, super interested in getting into her own business.

2661
02:50:36,760 --> 02:50:40,360
Speaker 17: She has limited funds. She's living at home with us

2662
02:50:41,160 --> 02:50:44,320
Speaker 17: saving her money. I hope and looking to get into

2663
02:50:44,360 --> 02:50:47,760
Speaker 17: a business. What would be your advice? And could she

2664
02:50:47,920 --> 02:50:49,760
Speaker 17: be a delegate? And I need your website?

2665
02:50:52,920 --> 02:50:56,240
Speaker 6: She might be excuse she might be a delegate. She

2666
02:50:56,360 --> 02:50:59,000
Speaker 6: might qualify for one of the slots as a youth delegated.

2667
02:51:00,160 --> 02:51:02,800
Speaker 6: You'd have to come with her if she is under age.

2668
02:51:03,600 --> 02:51:06,000
Speaker 6: In any case, she can hosts a watch party. So

2669
02:51:06,080 --> 02:51:09,640
Speaker 6: you should go to Operation Hope dot org and or

2670
02:51:09,800 --> 02:51:14,160
Speaker 6: Hope Global Form dot org dot dot com. It's a

2671
02:51:14,200 --> 02:51:18,680
Speaker 6: for profit in this source of nonprofits dot org. Request

2672
02:51:18,760 --> 02:51:22,560
Speaker 6: the delegate pass and see if you get one. If not,

2673
02:51:22,720 --> 02:51:26,520
Speaker 6: requested to organize the watch part of your neighborhood and

2674
02:51:26,760 --> 02:51:28,800
Speaker 6: that might need to be more fun for you and

2675
02:51:28,879 --> 02:51:32,080
Speaker 6: your family to sit with her and her you know,

2676
02:51:32,600 --> 02:51:35,640
Speaker 6: her girlfriends or whatever, and like talk about what is

2677
02:51:35,720 --> 02:51:38,039
Speaker 6: being talked about as a family. We need to talk

2678
02:51:38,080 --> 02:51:40,560
Speaker 6: about money while we talk about civil rights. Let me

2679
02:51:40,600 --> 02:51:43,240
Speaker 6: talk about sports like I talk about hip hop music.

2680
02:51:43,560 --> 02:51:46,480
Speaker 6: This needs to become like a second language. Number two,

2681
02:51:48,320 --> 02:51:52,120
Speaker 6: Please do further encourage her to yes, save money, stay

2682
02:51:52,120 --> 02:51:53,840
Speaker 6: at home with you and save money. And if she's

2683
02:51:53,879 --> 02:51:55,960
Speaker 6: gonna stay with you, then you should be watching and

2684
02:51:56,040 --> 02:51:59,160
Speaker 6: monitoring the money she's saving. You're basically giving her free

2685
02:51:59,200 --> 02:52:02,640
Speaker 6: rant if she's an aide, and so the change for

2686
02:52:02,720 --> 02:52:05,640
Speaker 6: that is you want a little you know, buy in

2687
02:52:05,959 --> 02:52:08,320
Speaker 6: her business plan for her life. You want to see

2688
02:52:08,760 --> 02:52:10,680
Speaker 6: that she have a bank account. You want to see

2689
02:52:11,040 --> 02:52:13,560
Speaker 6: where she's investing in zating how much you have a

2690
02:52:13,680 --> 02:52:16,640
Speaker 6: right to ask these questions. Number three, If she has

2691
02:52:16,760 --> 02:52:21,680
Speaker 6: business ambitions, encourage those. We have a program for business

2692
02:52:22,360 --> 02:52:25,920
Speaker 6: at Operation Hope. It's Hope inside for business. We also

2693
02:52:26,000 --> 02:52:29,960
Speaker 6: have something called one MBB one million Black Business Initiatives

2694
02:52:30,560 --> 02:52:33,080
Speaker 6: that we've already created a nurturing and supported just under

2695
02:52:33,120 --> 02:52:37,360
Speaker 6: a half million black businesses since twenty twenty. And you

2696
02:52:37,400 --> 02:52:40,119
Speaker 6: can reach that at one MBB dot org or Operation

2697
02:52:40,240 --> 02:52:44,480
Speaker 6: Hope dot org and she can qualify for an in

2698
02:52:44,680 --> 02:52:49,360
Speaker 6: kind scholarship for up to twenty five thousand dollars of

2699
02:52:50,040 --> 02:52:55,560
Speaker 6: free coaching, counseling, and support services, including a Shopify e

2700
02:52:55,720 --> 02:52:59,560
Speaker 6: commerce site, at no cost to her if she goes

2701
02:52:59,600 --> 02:53:03,840
Speaker 6: to the process. And so yes, you should encourage her

2702
02:53:03,920 --> 02:53:06,280
Speaker 6: to be a business owner if she wants to. That

2703
02:53:06,440 --> 02:53:10,400
Speaker 6: is that is a very good pathway to freedom, because

2704
02:53:10,400 --> 02:53:12,640
Speaker 6: you're never going to make well make money during the

2705
02:53:12,720 --> 02:53:14,560
Speaker 6: day you go up in your sleep. My mother became

2706
02:53:15,200 --> 02:53:18,960
Speaker 6: financially independent, leaned on Networth eight fifty four credit score

2707
02:53:19,080 --> 02:53:22,120
Speaker 6: when it went that high, working an hourly job. So

2708
02:53:22,280 --> 02:53:28,720
Speaker 6: anybody can become wealthy with discipline and focus. But business creation,

2709
02:53:29,080 --> 02:53:31,600
Speaker 6: which is what I did. Business and entrepreneurship is the

2710
02:53:31,840 --> 02:53:38,120
Speaker 6: fastest route right to generating real wealth for us, and

2711
02:53:38,200 --> 02:53:40,720
Speaker 6: it also gives you independent and also it has high

2712
02:53:40,800 --> 02:53:43,600
Speaker 6: risk to it. So I'd say, you know, first path,

2713
02:53:44,560 --> 02:53:47,760
Speaker 6: just live a very disciplined life, disciplined life financially, so

2714
02:53:47,840 --> 02:53:49,480
Speaker 6: we're gonna have fun all that stuff, but just have

2715
02:53:49,640 --> 02:53:54,200
Speaker 6: a disciplined life financially. Next path by a house. Anybody

2716
02:53:54,280 --> 02:53:56,240
Speaker 6: listening to this and I'm answering two questions at the

2717
02:53:56,280 --> 02:53:59,440
Speaker 6: same time. The last caller, forty four percent of Black

2718
02:53:59,520 --> 02:54:04,160
Speaker 6: people on a home forty four compared to seventy five

2719
02:54:04,200 --> 02:54:06,560
Speaker 6: percent of our white counterparts. Why are they buying a

2720
02:54:06,640 --> 02:54:10,360
Speaker 6: house because it's a great investment. So people say, oh,

2721
02:54:10,520 --> 02:54:13,000
Speaker 6: the two thousand and eight economic crisis, we lost everything.

2722
02:54:13,120 --> 02:54:15,959
Speaker 6: You didn't lose everything because you bought wrong. You lost

2723
02:54:16,000 --> 02:54:19,160
Speaker 6: everything because you financed wrong. And that's why it's a

2724
02:54:19,200 --> 02:54:22,400
Speaker 6: financial illiteracy. The house purchase, in many case was a

2725
02:54:22,440 --> 02:54:25,560
Speaker 6: great decision. In fact, there's gone up multiples in value

2726
02:54:25,640 --> 02:54:27,920
Speaker 6: since two thousand and eight when you lost the house.

2727
02:54:28,040 --> 02:54:29,960
Speaker 6: If you look at the values now based on what

2728
02:54:30,360 --> 02:54:32,920
Speaker 6: you bought it for that but if you had homeboy shopping,

2729
02:54:32,959 --> 02:54:35,680
Speaker 6: the work network financing, your credit was told from the

2730
02:54:35,760 --> 02:54:39,480
Speaker 6: flow up. If you had adjustable rate mortgages, mortgage never

2731
02:54:39,600 --> 02:54:41,560
Speaker 6: do that on a thirty year mortgage. If you had

2732
02:54:41,560 --> 02:54:43,960
Speaker 6: a reverse amortization mortgage, which means you owe more than

2733
02:54:43,959 --> 02:54:46,720
Speaker 6: tomorrow than you did yesterday. All these tricks that people

2734
02:54:46,720 --> 02:54:49,320
Speaker 6: we played on people who are not financial financially literate.

2735
02:54:49,640 --> 02:54:51,480
Speaker 6: If you try to buy a name mattion in you're

2736
02:54:51,480 --> 02:54:57,480
Speaker 6: a you know, a male delivery person. I'm making this up,

2737
02:54:57,520 --> 02:54:59,320
Speaker 6: but I'm just giving the anowledge that people are buying

2738
02:54:59,600 --> 02:55:01,720
Speaker 6: like nations and they worked an hour on a job.

2739
02:55:01,840 --> 02:55:05,240
Speaker 6: Of course is going to implode, so like do practical stuff.

2740
02:55:05,280 --> 02:55:07,240
Speaker 6: And then the third thing is what your daughter wants

2741
02:55:07,280 --> 02:55:10,040
Speaker 6: to do is maybe start a business. So those are

2742
02:55:10,080 --> 02:55:15,000
Speaker 6: some stepping stones that the average person has become self

2743
02:55:15,120 --> 02:55:18,680
Speaker 6: reliant and become a millionaire. That's your ambitions. It's no

2744
02:55:18,680 --> 02:55:22,400
Speaker 6: reason the world that Black Americans cannot all of us,

2745
02:55:22,640 --> 02:55:26,240
Speaker 6: eighty percent of Black America should be independently wealthy. We

2746
02:55:26,400 --> 02:55:30,760
Speaker 6: have hustled in our phones. I also wrote, Carl, I

2747
02:55:30,800 --> 02:55:33,959
Speaker 6: wrote a business plan called the Business Plan for Black America.

2748
02:55:35,080 --> 02:55:37,920
Speaker 6: I'd encourage this caller and everybody else to just download

2749
02:55:37,920 --> 02:55:41,520
Speaker 6: its type of John Hope Bryant Comma Dream Forward or

2750
02:55:41,600 --> 02:55:45,080
Speaker 6: John Hope Bryant KAMMA Business Plan Black America. It'll come up.

2751
02:55:45,440 --> 02:55:48,360
Speaker 6: I wrote it for free. It's available for download. It

2752
02:55:48,400 --> 02:55:51,800
Speaker 6: gives you, it gives you a FreeMap to build wealth

2753
02:55:51,840 --> 02:55:53,920
Speaker 6: in your life and in your community.

2754
02:55:55,000 --> 02:55:57,320
Speaker 1: And thank you for your call. Gary twelve away from

2755
02:55:57,320 --> 02:56:00,680
Speaker 1: the time, John, what advice would you give to the

2756
02:56:00,760 --> 02:56:03,800
Speaker 1: black farmers how to survive that we had the president

2757
02:56:03,840 --> 02:56:06,600
Speaker 1: of the Black Farmacy African American Black Farmers last week,

2758
02:56:06,640 --> 02:56:09,320
Speaker 1: and you're gonna you're going through a rough time, round

2759
02:56:09,360 --> 02:56:11,280
Speaker 1: of very challenging So what advice would you have for

2760
02:56:11,360 --> 02:56:11,880
Speaker 1: those brothers?

2761
02:56:12,280 --> 02:56:14,360
Speaker 6: Black farmers have been going through the worst a rough

2762
02:56:14,440 --> 02:56:16,960
Speaker 6: time for one hundred and fifty years. I mean, they

2763
02:56:17,040 --> 02:56:22,360
Speaker 6: really were set up to fail, unfortunately from Jump Street

2764
02:56:22,640 --> 02:56:25,240
Speaker 6: because now they can still win. By the way, just

2765
02:56:25,400 --> 02:56:27,840
Speaker 6: to make me start with the end in mind, and

2766
02:56:27,959 --> 02:56:30,720
Speaker 6: I've been very encouraged by what I've seen by the

2767
02:56:30,800 --> 02:56:33,720
Speaker 6: leadership of Black farmers in the different groups. It seemed

2768
02:56:33,800 --> 02:56:36,240
Speaker 6: very integrity rich. I mean, the first thing I would

2769
02:56:36,240 --> 02:56:38,199
Speaker 6: just say is do everything you can just to hold

2770
02:56:38,320 --> 02:56:40,600
Speaker 6: on because they are not going No one's giving up,

2771
02:56:40,640 --> 02:56:44,720
Speaker 6: no one's creating more land. And in eighteen sixty two,

2772
02:56:44,800 --> 02:56:47,360
Speaker 6: going back to set up to fail in eighteen sixty two,

2773
02:56:47,600 --> 02:56:50,600
Speaker 6: eighty sixty five, we've heard about forty acres in the

2774
02:56:50,680 --> 02:56:53,160
Speaker 6: mule that really happened, but it was only eight It

2775
02:56:53,280 --> 02:56:56,600
Speaker 6: was only four hundred thousand acres out of two hundred

2776
02:56:56,640 --> 02:56:59,840
Speaker 6: and seventy million acres in America, and these were only

2777
02:57:00,200 --> 02:57:03,480
Speaker 6: like this is only forty acres given to blacks who

2778
02:57:03,560 --> 02:57:06,760
Speaker 6: were in the Union Army, like my second great grandfather

2779
02:57:07,240 --> 02:57:10,680
Speaker 6: who fought for the Union. Cause it was only down

2780
02:57:10,760 --> 02:57:14,000
Speaker 6: the coast from North Carolina to North Florida. And it

2781
02:57:14,120 --> 02:57:17,000
Speaker 6: only lasted a couple of years because when Lincoln was assassinated,

2782
02:57:17,440 --> 02:57:21,280
Speaker 6: the next president, who was a jerk, President Johnson, reversed

2783
02:57:21,440 --> 02:57:23,640
Speaker 6: forty acres in the meal was called field actually fifteen

2784
02:57:24,720 --> 02:57:26,240
Speaker 6: we know it to be forty acres in the mule.

2785
02:57:27,080 --> 02:57:29,680
Speaker 6: And but two years before that, Carl three years before that,

2786
02:57:30,320 --> 02:57:33,000
Speaker 6: there was a homestead at and the homes that that

2787
02:57:33,160 --> 02:57:35,840
Speaker 6: gave one hundred and sixty acres. I believe it was

2788
02:57:36,400 --> 02:57:40,800
Speaker 6: to any person going west. Unfortunately, really meant any white person.

2789
02:57:41,280 --> 02:57:43,080
Speaker 6: At that time. It was not ninety nine percent of

2790
02:57:43,120 --> 02:57:46,640
Speaker 6: the landownership plots were given to whites. So it was

2791
02:57:46,680 --> 02:57:50,680
Speaker 6: three times more, almost four times more than were given

2792
02:57:50,720 --> 02:57:53,680
Speaker 6: to blacks in land. It lasted. It was two hundred

2793
02:57:53,680 --> 02:57:56,720
Speaker 6: and seventy mill was it two hundred and seventy My god,

2794
02:57:58,600 --> 02:58:01,240
Speaker 6: two hundred seventy million acres that were given as ten

2795
02:58:01,280 --> 02:58:02,960
Speaker 6: percent of American lands. So I had the number wrong

2796
02:58:03,000 --> 02:58:05,320
Speaker 6: on how much land there is in America. Twenty seventy

2797
02:58:05,400 --> 02:58:07,400
Speaker 6: million members, so big I couldn't get in my head.

2798
02:58:07,440 --> 02:58:10,840
Speaker 6: Two Ina seventy million acres of land were given given

2799
02:58:11,520 --> 02:58:16,160
Speaker 6: to white farmers and they were given free government coaching

2800
02:58:16,760 --> 02:58:18,959
Speaker 6: to teach them how to be farmers. So they were

2801
02:58:19,000 --> 02:58:21,600
Speaker 6: given a head up. We were put we had a

2802
02:58:21,680 --> 02:58:27,160
Speaker 6: fifth or a foot put on our neck and not encouraged.

2803
02:58:27,680 --> 02:58:31,160
Speaker 6: And unfortunately that plus financially in literacy, many of us

2804
02:58:31,280 --> 02:58:34,320
Speaker 6: gave away land. We lost lands to tax schemes of

2805
02:58:34,520 --> 02:58:38,320
Speaker 6: our property tax defaults. We weren't given financing. So they

2806
02:58:38,360 --> 02:58:41,480
Speaker 6: go to Basically, if they go to Operation Hope, sign

2807
02:58:41,600 --> 02:58:44,480
Speaker 6: up to coaching. Is what I said to the collar earlier.

2808
02:58:44,600 --> 02:58:47,879
Speaker 6: Signed up to get us financial coach. In fact, if

2809
02:58:47,920 --> 02:58:50,520
Speaker 6: the person you're talking about is organizing a group of

2810
02:58:50,600 --> 02:58:54,840
Speaker 6: black farmers, have them contact Lance Trages l A n

2811
02:58:55,040 --> 02:58:59,280
Speaker 6: CE dot t R I G G s lands Dot

2812
02:58:59,480 --> 02:59:03,480
Speaker 6: Tragues at Operation Hope one word dot org. He is

2813
02:59:03,560 --> 02:59:07,880
Speaker 6: the president of all Hope programs. Tell him I sent you,

2814
02:59:08,720 --> 02:59:12,120
Speaker 6: and ask him to organize a group a team, a

2815
02:59:12,240 --> 02:59:15,440
Speaker 6: sort of a swat team of my employees to work

2816
02:59:15,640 --> 02:59:18,400
Speaker 6: as a strategy with Jane Roscoe, who's there in the

2817
02:59:18,520 --> 02:59:22,640
Speaker 6: DC area runs government relations and policy, to see if

2818
02:59:22,680 --> 02:59:26,560
Speaker 6: we can sort of wrap our hands around the black

2819
02:59:26,600 --> 02:59:29,320
Speaker 6: farmers as a group and create a strategy for them.

2820
02:59:29,840 --> 02:59:31,960
Speaker 6: A lot of this is just require strategic planning.

2821
02:59:34,040 --> 02:59:36,880
Speaker 1: So again, let me get that straight. That's Lance Triggs

2822
02:59:37,000 --> 02:59:37,440
Speaker 1: t R.

2823
02:59:37,560 --> 02:59:42,880
Speaker 6: I G G Dot Triggs at Operation Hope Dot O RG.

2824
02:59:43,200 --> 02:59:46,400
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, cool. Eight away from the top of

2825
02:59:46,440 --> 02:59:49,160
Speaker 1: the brother Jay's checking in from Champagne, Illinois, has a

2826
02:59:49,240 --> 02:59:51,720
Speaker 1: question for You's online too, Grand Rising Brother Jay.

2827
02:59:51,840 --> 02:59:56,480
Speaker 18: I'm with John Hope Bryant Hey Gren Carl Grand Resident Brother,

2828
02:59:56,600 --> 02:59:58,880
Speaker 18: John Hope. Hey, Look, I've worked with you guys and

2829
02:59:59,000 --> 03:00:01,520
Speaker 18: twenty fifteen without I was in Atlanta and you're doing

2830
03:00:01,600 --> 03:00:04,720
Speaker 18: some awesome work. I just want to say that and

2831
03:00:05,480 --> 03:00:08,879
Speaker 18: thank real quick. I got a couple just one, well yeah,

2832
03:00:08,920 --> 03:00:13,840
Speaker 18: two questions. One, how you feel about why not your

2833
03:00:13,879 --> 03:00:17,440
Speaker 18: literacy as the new civil rights that's question one. The

2834
03:00:17,600 --> 03:00:20,040
Speaker 18: second question is, and I take this one out there,

2835
03:00:20,879 --> 03:00:24,600
Speaker 18: how do we get your program into others? Spitting like

2836
03:00:24,720 --> 03:00:28,560
Speaker 18: where we at? Can we license it out or like

2837
03:00:28,680 --> 03:00:29,400
Speaker 18: who we talked to?

2838
03:00:29,480 --> 03:00:29,520
Speaker 7: Do?

2839
03:00:29,600 --> 03:00:33,720
Speaker 18: We talked to Lance about this because it's needed. I

2840
03:00:33,840 --> 03:00:37,080
Speaker 18: see this program, you know, and we're going into this

2841
03:00:37,240 --> 03:00:41,080
Speaker 18: new type economy is badly needed. So I'll take my answer.

2842
03:00:41,000 --> 03:00:46,560
Speaker 6: Sir, Yeah, so great, great questions. Yes, I believe that

2843
03:00:46,720 --> 03:00:50,960
Speaker 6: financial literacy is the civil rights issue of this generation

2844
03:00:51,160 --> 03:00:54,200
Speaker 6: as important that's the right to vote. I believe that

2845
03:00:55,120 --> 03:00:59,120
Speaker 6: AIRE literacy artificial intelligence, which we are going to start

2846
03:00:59,200 --> 03:01:02,040
Speaker 6: teaching anounce this in a bout among details of this,

2847
03:01:02,440 --> 03:01:06,160
Speaker 6: it'll be called hope AI. I think that AI literacy

2848
03:01:06,560 --> 03:01:11,920
Speaker 6: is the silver silve our silver rights issue of this generation.

2849
03:01:12,120 --> 03:01:14,520
Speaker 6: So one thing keeps you from being taken advantage of

2850
03:01:15,040 --> 03:01:19,040
Speaker 6: civil rights, financial literacy. One thing allows you to prosper

2851
03:01:19,120 --> 03:01:23,360
Speaker 6: in the new economy. That's AI literacy. We need both

2852
03:01:23,480 --> 03:01:27,240
Speaker 6: of those things. We need healing for our soul because

2853
03:01:27,320 --> 03:01:31,720
Speaker 6: many of us are suffering from depression and low self

2854
03:01:31,920 --> 03:01:35,040
Speaker 6: esteem because we are the descendants of slaves and we

2855
03:01:35,240 --> 03:01:40,920
Speaker 6: never healed from our pain, generational pain. We cannot quite

2856
03:01:41,000 --> 03:01:44,120
Speaker 6: figure out why we don't feel good about ourselves. We're confident,

2857
03:01:44,680 --> 03:01:47,560
Speaker 6: but we don't have self esteem, which those two things

2858
03:01:47,640 --> 03:01:50,560
Speaker 6: are very different. So we've got to solve those things.

2859
03:01:50,720 --> 03:01:54,000
Speaker 6: Self esteem, which is loving yourself, not being in love

2860
03:01:54,000 --> 03:01:57,400
Speaker 6: with yourself, but loving yourself. Healing from your pain. That's

2861
03:01:57,440 --> 03:02:00,879
Speaker 6: why that's where crabbing the barrel comes from. Healed pain.

2862
03:02:01,120 --> 03:02:02,960
Speaker 6: If I don't like me, I'm not gonna like you.

2863
03:02:03,440 --> 03:02:05,080
Speaker 6: If I don't feel good about me, I'm not gonna

2864
03:02:05,080 --> 03:02:07,520
Speaker 6: feel good about you. If I don't respect me, don't

2865
03:02:07,560 --> 03:02:09,440
Speaker 6: expect me to respect you, and so on and so forth,

2866
03:02:09,680 --> 03:02:12,800
Speaker 6: and then AI literacy and financial literacy that sets you

2867
03:02:13,000 --> 03:02:17,640
Speaker 6: up to be to have that immigrant experience that dreamers

2868
03:02:17,680 --> 03:02:20,280
Speaker 6: come to America with. And they come here and they

2869
03:02:20,400 --> 03:02:23,560
Speaker 6: kill it. They kill the game because they have high confidence,

2870
03:02:23,640 --> 03:02:26,800
Speaker 6: high self esteem, they understand money, they understand the future.

2871
03:02:27,040 --> 03:02:29,080
Speaker 6: They put their head down, they work hard, and we

2872
03:02:29,560 --> 03:02:32,440
Speaker 6: turn up and three years, four years later, somede gets here.

2873
03:02:32,520 --> 03:02:34,600
Speaker 6: They're killing then a home on a business they got

2874
03:02:34,720 --> 03:02:36,520
Speaker 6: to We're like, how do they do? That's what I

2875
03:02:36,640 --> 03:02:39,360
Speaker 6: just told you. So not everybody comes to America. Right,

2876
03:02:39,400 --> 03:02:41,760
Speaker 6: there's the biggest economy in the world. Dreamers come here,

2877
03:02:42,600 --> 03:02:45,720
Speaker 6: but slaves were brought here. It's very important for listeners

2878
03:02:45,760 --> 03:02:48,840
Speaker 6: to understand. I've never said this one air too. Dream

2879
03:02:49,360 --> 03:02:53,959
Speaker 6: slaves enslave people. Great people from Africa broad here because

2880
03:02:53,959 --> 03:02:55,280
Speaker 6: we were geniuses of the land.

2881
03:02:56,040 --> 03:02:56,160
Speaker 7: Right.

2882
03:02:56,160 --> 03:02:58,000
Speaker 6: There's a whole other conversation for another time, and I

2883
03:02:58,040 --> 03:03:01,240
Speaker 6: go through it on my podcast in detail. We were

2884
03:03:01,520 --> 03:03:03,400
Speaker 6: genus of the land. They didn't bring us ever because

2885
03:03:03,400 --> 03:03:05,960
Speaker 6: we were lazy, that's a lie. Brought us here because

2886
03:03:05,959 --> 03:03:08,480
Speaker 6: we were We understood how to take dead land and

2887
03:03:08,520 --> 03:03:11,280
Speaker 6: bring it back to life because Africa's hot. Well, but

2888
03:03:11,360 --> 03:03:14,320
Speaker 6: then they needed us not to revolt or take over things.

2889
03:03:14,400 --> 03:03:17,520
Speaker 6: We had them out numbers. So they work to destroy

2890
03:03:18,080 --> 03:03:22,480
Speaker 6: our self esteem, separated our families, and degraded the men

2891
03:03:22,720 --> 03:03:25,080
Speaker 6: by using the women in front of them. All these

2892
03:03:25,120 --> 03:03:27,120
Speaker 6: things times about men are not the legacy. That is,

2893
03:03:27,240 --> 03:03:30,080
Speaker 6: men are not in household like households. We feel a

2894
03:03:30,200 --> 03:03:32,800
Speaker 6: shamed that we can't take care of our women. So

2895
03:03:32,920 --> 03:03:35,680
Speaker 6: we just bounced and so we just need to heal

2896
03:03:35,760 --> 03:03:39,240
Speaker 6: from all that and then deal with all that then

2897
03:03:39,280 --> 03:03:42,960
Speaker 6: to reboot from that bad experience and come up with

2898
03:03:43,040 --> 03:03:45,119
Speaker 6: a plan that works for everybody else, which is really

2899
03:03:45,160 --> 03:03:48,800
Speaker 6: what I just told you. As far as offices that

2900
03:03:48,920 --> 03:03:51,879
Speaker 6: would be, I give you my defly chief established Bill

2901
03:03:52,400 --> 03:03:55,880
Speaker 6: fair fai R, Bill dot f ai R at the

2902
03:03:56,400 --> 03:03:58,880
Speaker 6: operation no better work. Tell him, I said you. He

2903
03:03:59,040 --> 03:04:00,760
Speaker 6: will then points you in the right direction of one

2904
03:04:00,800 --> 03:04:04,160
Speaker 6: of my partnership people and they will help you. You know,

2905
03:04:04,240 --> 03:04:07,480
Speaker 6: they'll try to identify the city we're in. We have

2906
03:04:07,560 --> 03:04:11,640
Speaker 6: fifteen hundred offices in forty two states right now. So

2907
03:04:11,720 --> 03:04:15,560
Speaker 6: we're the biggest Black males foundent nonprofit in American history,

2908
03:04:15,800 --> 03:04:19,480
Speaker 6: community based, and we're the biggest financial literacy organization today

2909
03:04:19,840 --> 03:04:24,000
Speaker 6: in America. Now I want fifteen thousand offices by twenty

2910
03:04:24,080 --> 03:04:26,920
Speaker 6: twenty eight. I mean, I'm going to grow by ten x.

2911
03:04:27,000 --> 03:04:30,080
Speaker 6: How am I to do that? I can't believe I'm

2912
03:04:30,120 --> 03:04:32,640
Speaker 6: saying this, but I won't missing a guy's name. But

2913
03:04:32,680 --> 03:04:36,320
Speaker 6: there's a person who who's not with us anymore, who

2914
03:04:36,440 --> 03:04:40,480
Speaker 6: ran an organization meant that I don't really respect, but

2915
03:04:40,560 --> 03:04:43,320
Speaker 6: I do admire or respect how he built it, which

2916
03:04:43,400 --> 03:04:45,760
Speaker 6: was clubs on college campuses. People can figure out what

2917
03:04:45,800 --> 03:04:48,240
Speaker 6: we're talking about without the name of the day. And

2918
03:04:48,959 --> 03:04:51,080
Speaker 6: while I didn't like what he was doing, I really

2919
03:04:51,160 --> 03:04:55,760
Speaker 6: thought the strategy was quite brilliant to put clubs on

2920
03:04:56,040 --> 03:04:59,440
Speaker 6: college campuses and school campuses. So I will have financial

2921
03:04:59,520 --> 03:05:05,119
Speaker 6: literacy clubs, AI FREEI Literacy Finsial Literacy, and Economic Empowerment,

2922
03:05:05,280 --> 03:05:09,360
Speaker 6: Civil Rights Hope clubs across this country, and we will

2923
03:05:09,480 --> 03:05:12,600
Speaker 6: license those clubs. We won't fund those clubs, but we

2924
03:05:12,680 --> 03:05:14,840
Speaker 6: will licensed. We'll give them an authority to use our

2925
03:05:14,920 --> 03:05:18,920
Speaker 6: name and we'll give them free curriculum, free tools.

2926
03:05:18,959 --> 03:05:19,560
Speaker 3: To set up.

2927
03:05:19,600 --> 03:05:22,040
Speaker 6: They'll have to organize through volunteers, so I can go

2928
03:05:22,120 --> 03:05:26,680
Speaker 6: from fifteen hundred officers to fifteen thousand tons.

2929
03:05:26,959 --> 03:05:29,440
Speaker 1: And well, John, we're just about flat out of time here.

2930
03:05:29,959 --> 03:05:33,280
Speaker 1: Can you give us an email website address before you

2931
03:05:33,440 --> 03:05:33,760
Speaker 1: leave us?

2932
03:05:34,840 --> 03:05:39,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, no problem. Operation Hoope dot org is for my philanthropy.

2933
03:05:40,000 --> 03:05:43,400
Speaker 6: John oo'brien Enterprises dot com is my parent company for

2934
03:05:44,160 --> 03:05:47,440
Speaker 6: all of my ventures. That was my partly my quickest

2935
03:05:47,600 --> 03:05:49,400
Speaker 6: answer to you, gral hold all day.

2936
03:05:50,280 --> 03:05:52,520
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, John, thank thank you for what

2937
03:05:52,680 --> 03:05:54,480
Speaker 1: you do for us. Man really appreciate it.

2938
03:05:55,440 --> 03:05:57,520
Speaker 6: Well, thank you, brother. You are the voice. We can't

2939
03:05:57,560 --> 03:05:59,480
Speaker 6: do it without the voice. Brother, Thank you so much.

2940
03:06:00,120 --> 03:06:02,840
Speaker 1: Alrighty family, that's John O'Brien. I hope you if you

2941
03:06:02,840 --> 03:06:04,640
Speaker 1: didn't get here all of what he had to say,

2942
03:06:04,680 --> 03:06:07,640
Speaker 1: and he got people interested in get into the business,

2943
03:06:07,760 --> 03:06:10,440
Speaker 1: get a copy of the show and pass it on

2944
03:06:10,600 --> 03:06:12,920
Speaker 1: to them. Eight hundred and four or five zero seventy

2945
03:06:12,959 --> 03:06:15,160
Speaker 1: eight seventy six, keep their number handed for the next time.

2946
03:06:15,400 --> 03:06:17,760
Speaker 1: We got to get out of here. Classes dismissed, Stay strong,

2947
03:06:17,879 --> 03:06:20,720
Speaker 1: stay positive. We'll see tomorrow morning six o'clock. Right here

2948
03:06:20,800 --> 03:06:24,039
Speaker 1: in Baltimore on ten ten WLB and in the DMV

2949
03:06:24,240 --> 03:06:26,359
Speaker 1: on fourteen fifty wol