1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Live from the Hart Blind and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: It's Tony Katz today. Well, hey there, everybody, Happy Thursday 3 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: to one and all April second. You know, somebody ought 4 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: to do a sequel to Groundhog Day, that is like 5 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: all about April second, April Foolsday, repeating all over again. Hi, 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm Andrew Langer. I'm in for Tony Katz on Tony 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: Katz today, laughing because I sent Land in some bumpers 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: that I put together on so now we may get 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: some use out of them. Got to listen. We've got 10 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: a great show today. Lots of stuff going on in 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: the world. I neven put it in and my show prep. 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: I do want to log some time later on talking 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: about this decision in Indiana. Listen, way to go, guys, 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: making it clear that we are not going to extend 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: commercial driver's licenses to illegal aliens. Yeah, that's the way 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: it should be. We're gonna log some time talking today 17 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: about the Supreme Court's birthright citizen arguments yesterday, the good, 18 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: the bad, and the ugly. Obviously, going to spend some 19 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: time talking about the President's address last night. I may 20 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: wind up spending some time talking about Seapack. My trip 21 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: to Seapac last week saw our good friend Kira Davis 22 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: out there, and we got some great guests. We're gonna 23 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: be joined in a little bit by my good buddy 24 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: Jerry Rodgers, the editor of Real Clear Policy and Real 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: Clear Health. You know, Jerry's always great to talk to him, 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: get his take on things. Sarah Macon, who was an 27 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: activist for both religious freedom and freedom generally. Sarah is 28 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: somebody that I've known for a number of years now. 29 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: She was on a panel at Seapac last week. She's 30 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: going to join us. It was trading messages with her, 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: and I'm sure she'll talk about this. Trading messages with 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: her last night as the Artemis launch was going to happen, 33 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: that she wasn't gonna watch. No, no, no, you gotta watch. 34 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: And she's got a young son and I'm hoping, I'm 35 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: hoping that watching this launch yesterday got him hooked on 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: all this. I'll share why in a moment. We're also 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: gonna be joined by Josh McLeod. He's the director of 38 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: federal Relations for the National Federation of Independent Business NFIB 39 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: dot com is the website the nation's largest small business association. 40 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: I am as an interest full disclosure, I am an 41 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: NFIB alumnus, so having very excited to have Josh on 42 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: to talk about taxes and small businesses and what's going 43 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: on in the world here. But listen, we got to 44 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: start here. Let me explain for a moment, so y'all 45 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 1: know me. By the way, you can join the conversation here. 46 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: Message me on Twitter at Andrew Underscore Langer on Twitter. 47 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: I still call it Twitter, other folks call it X. 48 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: You can also message me send me an email while 49 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: you're while you're a list listening Andrew Langer Radio. That's 50 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: Langer L A N G E R. Andrew Langer Radio 51 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. I do read stuff on the air. 52 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: I know a number of listeners have already texted me 53 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: about stuff. But let me share this with you a 54 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: little little bit. Here are the ab season me. I 55 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: remain a massive space buff. When I was a kid, 56 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 1: I worshiped Neil Armstrong and wanted to be an astronaut, 57 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: and wanted to be an astroid for many years until 58 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: I realized that that you needed a I was. I 59 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: was probably going to be too tall, but but set 60 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: all of that aside. I also didn't quite have the 61 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: aptitude for math that one really needed to be to 62 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: be an astronaut. Now I just now, I just watch 63 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: uh and and but I am. I am fascinated and 64 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: a huge cheerleader for the space program in space exploration. 65 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: Have written about it, I've spoken about it, talked about 66 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: the transition from government sponsored, government paid for spaceflight to 67 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: private space flight. We're really on the precipice there, and 68 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: this return to the Moon is extraordinary to me. And again, 69 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: just you know, I think I've said this with regards 70 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: to the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. Just thank my 71 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: lucky stars, thank our lucky stars that we've got a 72 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: president who loves America. Now this is not me offering 73 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: slavish devotion to Donald Trump. I don't. But on the 74 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: other hand, I am enormously grateful that Donald Trump is president, 75 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: as opposed to Joe Biden or Kamala Harris or whomever 76 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: else on the Democratic side in terms of these historic moments. 77 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: In fact, before we get to the liftoff here and 78 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: the best clip out of all of them, I want 79 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: to start. I'm going to play this one. Let's sorry, 80 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: lind Then I'm jumping down it and put it in 81 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: the prep Let's talk about no. No, I guess this is 82 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: a number three. Let's play here is a former astronaut 83 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: by the name of Jerry Leininger talking about Artemis and 84 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: talking about talking about the legacy. Let's play at number three. 85 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: It's just awesome. 86 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: They got to be so excited and. 87 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: Ten years of work in hard God bless America. I mean, 88 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: the things with the Trump space policy is unreal. He 89 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 3: started it his first term and this is a fruition 90 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 3: of it. A big, beautiful bill had enough budget to 91 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: make this kind of stuff happen. And you know, America 92 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: is great again. That's just I'm so proud. 93 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's just it. 94 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeh. 95 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: You make the decision. Here's what we're going to do. 96 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: We're not going to monkey around anymore with this stuff. 97 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: If you've never seen it, and you have, if you 98 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: have HBO, I cannot recommend this highly enough. The late 99 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties after there was a period of time every 100 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: time Tom Hanks would do a movie, he would like 101 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: turn around to do an HBO series. You know, he 102 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: did Saving Private Ryan, and then he did a Bandit Brothers. 103 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: He did Apollo thirteen and then he did this series 104 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: From the Earth to the Moon, and you know, if 105 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: you're not a space buff, I think you will enjoy it. 106 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: It is just it is, It is so good and 107 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: talking about the decisions that we made. I raised this 108 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: because it opens The series opens with a discussion after 109 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: after the Russians put Yuri Gagarin in space and he 110 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: does an orbit and they're talking about whether or not 111 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: they should announce manland and I should have pulled this 112 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: and I didn't. Kennedy's we choose to go to the 113 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: Moon speech. I know I've played that before, but they 114 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: make the decision to do it. You know, you have 115 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: to make that decision. And Jerry Weisner, the President's science 116 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: advisor played by Al Franken, and the series is like, well, 117 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: there's no real benefit to this, and the head of 118 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: NASA says, you know, the moment a man steps on 119 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: the Moon is going to be a seminal event. And 120 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: I think it is the same thing with these launches. 121 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: This return to the Moon is a seminal step. And 122 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: I got to tell you I had tears in my eyes, 123 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: tears in my eyes when the launch happened. I mean, obviously, 124 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: I think all of us. There is that moment, right, 125 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: all of us of a certain age. You know, if 126 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: you were somewhere between elementary school and high school in 127 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six, chances are you were watching The Challenger 128 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: when the explosion happened. Everybody knows where they were when 129 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: the Challenger explosion happened. And so you watch this and 130 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: you just you just keep your fingers crossed. You don't 131 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: want anything to go wrong. And there were a couple 132 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: of moments where we thought they might scrub the mission, 133 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: and thankfully they didn't. And apart from having some toilet 134 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: problems if you heard this, but the toilet on the 135 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: Artemis the it was was, was broken for six hours, 136 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: couldn't make a pit stop. So so so there was 137 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,559 Speaker 1: there was that. Anyway, I think the best, the best, 138 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: best best reactions so far was from this kid. Let's 139 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: go aheadland and play cut number four. Why do you 140 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: want to be here? Why do you love space? Why 141 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: do you love being a part of history? 142 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 4: We're going back to the noon. 143 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: That's why there is some debate whether or not he 144 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: dropped the F bomb or he said freaking It doesn't 145 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Just to be on the safe side. We 146 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 1: played it, but man, oh man, absolutely, we're going to 147 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: the f and Moon. I love it. It is fantastic. 148 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: Listen when we come back, I want to I'm gonna 149 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: play the audio from from the launch itself. We've got 150 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: the NASA administrator also his reaction there, and I want 151 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on this. Drop me a note 152 00:08:59,000 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: on X. 153 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: Listen. 154 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: I know there are folks who are a lesson enthus 155 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: about this, and they're asking important questions. There are questions about, 156 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, is this is the juice worth the squeeze. 157 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: I am an enthusiastic supporter of this. Absolutely where we're 158 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: getting you know, the juice is worth the squeeze or 159 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: the expense is worth it to establish re establish American 160 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: dominance in space. But drop me a note at I'm 161 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: sorry Andrew M. 162 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: Langer. 163 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: I'm sorry Andrew Langer Radio at gmail dot com. All 164 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: one word Andrew Langer Radio or at Andrew Underscore Langer 165 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: on X. I am Andrew Langer in for Tony Katz. 166 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: This is Tony Kats today. I think it's going to 167 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: be a long a long time. Listen as long as 168 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: you've pulled Starman by David Bowie Landon I'm gonna be 169 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: happy camper. And if you haven't pulled Starman by David Bowie, 170 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: go pull Starman by David Bowie. Anyway, Hi everybody, I'm 171 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: Andrew Langer in for Tony Katz today, so glad I 172 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: could join you, you could join me. It is a 173 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: day of celebration as we watch Artemis the Artemis two 174 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: missions head to a head to the Moon to go 175 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: and circle the moon, circum circumnavigate the Moon. I'm very 176 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: excited about this, as we've said so yesterday, waiting with 177 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: baited breath for for this moment. Let's go ahead and 178 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: play cut number one. 179 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 5: Far as twenty five injuries four three two one, loose 180 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 5: or ignition and lift off the crew of Artemis two, 181 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 5: now bound for the Moon. Humanity's next great voyage begins. 182 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: Good roll Pitch Roger, Roll Pitch. 183 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 5: Houston now controlling the flight of Integrity on the Artemist 184 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 5: two mission. 185 00:10:54,280 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 6: Round am high. 186 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: On time passing thirty seconds. And by the way, would 187 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: have been helpful for all of us to understand that 188 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: they they're calling the capsule, uh, the Integrity, right, that's 189 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: the name of it, like the Eagle or the Yankee Clipper. 190 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: Or whatever the names of the various Apollo capsules they're 191 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: calling an integrity, which I think sadly is a little 192 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: needlessly confusing, right because I hear integrity, and I'm thinking 193 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: about capsule integrity, you know, as you know, having having 194 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: staying whole, but obviously very big. Now, for all of 195 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: you who are of a similar age to me and 196 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: Tony and and and are like if you are, if 197 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: you are a gen x er, chances are you heard 198 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: the launch and you immediately thought of this. Let's go 199 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: ahead and play cut number two, r S twenty five injuries. 200 00:11:55,000 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 5: Four three two one, who's your ignition? And lift off 201 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 5: the crew of Artemis two. 202 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: Now bound for the Moon. 203 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 5: Humanity's next great voyage begins. 204 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, rock and roll. I immediately immediately thought of 205 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: the opening of MTV and the Moon Man and the 206 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: rocket launch, the Apollo rocket launch sequence for the bumper 207 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: on MTV against something I don't know if Landon had 208 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: ever seen before, but if you're like me, you probably 209 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: thought that at the same time. And then here is 210 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: the NASA administrator Jared Isaacman this morning talking about the 211 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: success there. Let's gohe and play cut number five slease. 212 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 7: So good to see you this morning, and great to 213 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 7: see the astronauts up in high Earth orbit. They're going 214 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 7: to be spending most of the day conducting checks around 215 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 7: there Orion Space, making sure that it's ready to go 216 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 7: on to the Moon. Engineers on the ground are trying 217 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 7: to investigate the cause of a very temporary communications problem. 218 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 7: It occurred about fifty one minutes after launch. For just 219 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 7: a couple minutes, the astronaut on the ground assigned to 220 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 7: capsule communication had trouble receiving messages from the flight crew. 221 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 7: It happened while the spacecraft was switching links from one 222 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 7: communication satellite to another, and mission control quickly re established 223 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 7: contact with the crew. 224 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: They're Sekire and there in great spirits. 225 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 4: We will continue to monitor their health and the status 226 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 4: is they as we move into the next phase of 227 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 4: the Artemis two mission. So after a brief fifty four 228 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 4: year intermission, NASA is back in the business of sending 229 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: astronauts to the Moon. 230 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: It is. It is just amazing. So here's what happens. 231 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: If you don't know, so this is this is they're 232 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: all unique missions, right going to the Moon and going 233 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: to the mood. It's a complicated. It's not just a 234 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: simple matter of getting up there and pointing your rocket 235 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: in the right direction. Obviously, lots of orbital mechanic calculations 236 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: that are happening out there. So what they're doing is 237 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: they're orbiting the Earth at a higher Earth orbit. You know, obvitually, 238 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: there are different orbit levels that are out there. And 239 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: once they sort of establish their pattern and they build 240 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: up speed, they're going to slingshot around the Earth. They're 241 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: going to have another burn and it's going to set 242 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: them on this trajectory for insertion into the Moon's gravitational pull, 243 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: and then they will circle the Moon. I think they 244 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: come within forty five hundred miles of the Moon, and 245 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: then they will have another burn and they will come 246 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: home and it's a multi day trip out there. The 247 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: whole thing will take ten days before they splash down. 248 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: And let me put you this way, I mean, because 249 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: there are criticisms that are out there. We'll probably talk 250 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: a little bit about this with Sarah Macon when she 251 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: joins us, and the next era, we'll talk about it 252 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: with Jerry Rodgers in a couple of minutes. Jerry is 253 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: not nearly the same level of space buff that I am, 254 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: and I'm you know, I'm not sure why that is. 255 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: Let mean, let me tell you how big you know, 256 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: how big a space buff I was. I mean, we 257 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: had to do a report on explorers in fifth grade, 258 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: and you know Vasco de Gama, Americo, Vespucci, et cetera, 259 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: et cetera. I did it on Neil Armstrong. That's you 260 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: know that. I actually came in and gave my report 261 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: dressed as an astronaut. That was as nerdy as as 262 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: I was. I dragged my poor parents. We have you 263 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: all know this. I may have mentioned this before. We 264 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: have a family up in Logan's Port, and so every 265 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: every couple of years we come out to to Logansport. 266 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 8: Uh. 267 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: And I discovered that that there is was at the 268 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: time in Wapa Canetta, Ohio, So right over the border 269 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: in west central Ohio. Wapa Canetta is the home of 270 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: at the time I was called the Neil Armstrong First 271 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: Man on the Moon Museum. I think it's now called 272 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: the Neil Armstrong Air and Space Museum because Wapa Canetta 273 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: is where he's from. I dragged my drag my parents, 274 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: or made my parents take me there because I was 275 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: so so into it. But yeah, so it is hard 276 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: to see this and not feel some kind of national pride. 277 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: And there are things we do. Let's just say it, 278 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: there are things we do because they are about American exceptionalism. 279 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: Now that's not to say that there are not ancillary 280 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: or non ancillary, that there are other other benefits that 281 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: a crew will get to those in a second. But 282 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: at the very least we are ladies and gentlemen. We 283 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: are involved in yet another Cold War. I just did 284 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: an interview earlier this week Brent Sadler, who who we 285 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: had on the radio the last time I was on 286 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: for Tony a couple of weeks ago. Brent Sadler and 287 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: I had a lengthy conversation about the fact that that 288 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: we are in this new Cold War between China and Russia, 289 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: and we cannot see ground to the Chinese. We have 290 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: to make these demonstrations, and guys, it is our two 291 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: hundred and fiftyth anniversaries in nation. I got a couple 292 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: of op eds, just did one talking about American exceptionalism 293 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: and Artemis and the two hundred and fiftieth, the semi Sesquentennial, 294 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: the two hundred and fiftieth Birthday of America, it is 295 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: fitting that we do this this year, and I am 296 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: reminded maybe I will pull it during the news of 297 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: John Kennedy's speech in Houston at Rice University, right that 298 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: we choose to go to the moon, speech in which 299 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 1: he says, you know, why do we do these things? 300 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: So? 301 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: Why do we climb the tallest mountain? Why does Rice 302 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: play Texas? We choose to go to the moon and 303 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: do other things not because they are easy, but because 304 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: they are hard. That's the challenge. The challenge is to 305 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: do the impossible, to endeavor to do the impossible. Why. 306 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: Because we're Americans. That's what we do, That's who we are. 307 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: In fact, do me a favor, land and play cut 308 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: number four again. This kid gets it, play cut number four. 309 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: Why do you want to be here? Why do you 310 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: love space? Why do you love being a part of history? 311 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: We're going back to the noon, that's why, right we're 312 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: doing it. We did it once, and by Jove, we 313 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: can do it again. No other nation, guys, no other 314 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: nation has ever landed men on the moon and return 315 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: them home again, Which was again John Kennedy's charge back 316 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: back way way back when that was the charge. We 317 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: choose to go to the moon in this decay, and 318 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: do the other things he pronounced it weird in this 319 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: decayed and do the other things not because they are easy, 320 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: but because they are hard. And yeah, there are advances 321 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: in science and technology and medical advances and technology, and 322 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: I got to tell you, you start to feel that 323 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: national pride once again, and suddenly the other problems don't 324 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: seem too insurmountable to solve. We're going back to the 325 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: f and moon. All of these other things can be solved. 326 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm Andrew Langer and for Tony Katz. This is Tony 327 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: Katz today. I haven't seen it yet, but Project Hail 328 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: Mary is supposed to be great. I mention it because 329 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: this was used Starman by David Bowie, used in the 330 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: movie That Martian starring Matt Damon. So same guy doing 331 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: both both movies. Here things about it. Someone not incredibly 332 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: impressed by all of this pageantry is my good buddy 333 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: Jerry Rodgers, co host of Andrew and Jerry Saved the World, 334 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: but also the editor of Real Clear Policy, Real Clear Health. Jerry, 335 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: you didn't watch the launch man. 336 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: I did not. But let me say this about Hail Mary. 337 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 8: My kids have seen it and their response has been 338 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 8: this type of movie can save Hollywood from itself. 339 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: Right, it is a great And my kids are you know, 340 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 2: early twenties to their teams, and they were craving something 341 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 2: that was big and fun and blockbuster and that sort 342 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: of thing and not formulation movie. Right, exactly right. And 343 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: also look in terms of these space. 344 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 8: Launches, I'm just concerned if I was going to add 345 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 8: he space on return and it. 346 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: Would be Planet of the Eighth. 347 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm thereout there wouldn't be anything year when you look back, 348 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: I understand this is the world. 349 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 8: Andrew, a friend of ours, Rob O'Donnell, who also had 350 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 8: the radio show of Pennsylvania, said that as a massive 351 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 8: April Fool's trick, that we should all we should all 352 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 8: right in Plat of the Eighth costumes and trick the 353 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 8: astronauts when they returned. 354 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: Yes, something I will say this much. If if it 355 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: was the crew of the Apollo twelve, which I was 356 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: just talking with producer Landing about, folks would definitely definitely 357 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: do that, or the opposite. I could see Pete, Conrad 358 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: and Albin putting eight masks on their suits and having 359 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: them having them ready for when they get there. So 360 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: Jerry lots going on. This is why I wanted to 361 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: reach out to you, not just because of the Artemis launch, 362 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: but really because of the two big things. We haven't 363 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: even gotten to the president's speech yet, and I want to. 364 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: I want to start there and then talk about birthright 365 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: citizenship there. You know, you and I talked earlier and 366 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: I said I was a little disappointed because there wasn't 367 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: anything new in the President's remarks last night, and you 368 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: cautioned me about this. Why did you caution. 369 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 8: Me, Well, because I don't think this administration has given 370 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 8: a full throated explanation consistent as to why this conflict 371 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 8: military engagement in Iran is necessary to the safety of 372 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 8: American interest in American citizens number one. 373 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: Number two. I also think that this president again, I 374 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: watched his speech afterwards. Yes, there's a rambling to it. 375 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 8: There's a sort of kind of disjointed to it, disjointedness 376 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 8: to it. But however, there are folks in America who 377 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 8: like that speaking pattern, and it works for them. It 378 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 8: might not work for you or me, because we're engaged already. 379 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 8: I think this was a good speech. And let me 380 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 8: tell you this. Mark Penn, who is a Democrat, strategist, 381 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 8: and you know, the polster for Bill and Hillary Clinton 382 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 8: said on X Today that it was a remarkable defense 383 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 8: of why. 384 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: We're in Iran. So you know, you know it's. 385 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 8: Funny, you know, different different strokes for different folks. 386 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: I think it worked for to whom it had to 387 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: work for. 388 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: Here's what I come back to, and uh, you know, 389 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: it's one of those things folks who spend any time, 390 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: by the way you check them out. We haven't done 391 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: one in a bit. We need to get back to it. 392 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: Andrew and Jerry save the world. I am. I am 393 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: usually much more ebuliant and optimistic. Jerry tends to play 394 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: the role of e or in our in our conversations. 395 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 1: But you know, I have been very eorish about the 396 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:32,239 Speaker 1: midterm elections, you know, given gas prices and given you know, 397 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: the chaos, and given some other things. But I'm starting 398 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: to rethink that. And here's why, Jerry and I want 399 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: to get your take on this. So we have this 400 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: Artemis launch and barring anything, I'm knocking wood here. If 401 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: you hear that knocking wood, you know, barring anything terrible 402 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: from happening, They're gonna come back. It's going to be 403 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: a major success. We've got this situation in Iran. The 404 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: President has said, where is Lindsey Graham, you know, said, 405 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: We're brought inside the ten yard line on this that's 406 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: going to be there. We got America to fifty happening, 407 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 1: and so much of the pagentry that's happening there, and 408 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: a lot of discussion about us being able to bounce 409 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: back from the gas price issue once all of this 410 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: stuff is in place, in the same way that you know, 411 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: America was able to bounce back from covid for in 412 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: some measure because of the preconditions we had set there. 413 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: This is my point, Jerry, I'm starting to feel maybe 414 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: the cosmic tumblers are turning in place that it's not 415 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: going to be quite the bloodbath that I had been 416 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: anticipating come November. That there's so much that could go right. 417 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: There's a lot that could go wrong, but there's so 418 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: much that could go right. Where are you and all this. 419 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 8: Well, I'll tell you this, the gas prices do not 420 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 8: concern me at all because they're still at the you know, 421 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 8: three ninety average nationwide. 422 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: It's still a dollar. 423 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 8: And ten cents less than the five dollars under the 424 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 8: Biden administration, and remember that was because of. 425 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: His war on energy, his warr and fossil fuels. 426 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 8: We're at war with Iran that has been murdering Americans 427 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 8: for forty seven years. I think the American people will 428 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 8: forgive that. The problem is is that we're reading and 429 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 8: we're seeing what's said in the mainstream legacy media. I'm 430 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 8: telling you, in all my lives of public policy, my 431 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 8: life in public policy, I have not ever witnessed the 432 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 8: legacy media and the Democratic Party rooting against America like 433 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 8: they are with Iran. So I'm not so concerned about 434 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 8: gas crisis. I tell you what, though, I'm going to 435 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 8: bring your good mood down the fact that the Gop 436 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 8: House has caved on the DHS funding. I think that's 437 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 8: the major bad news that we can't this. The Republicans 438 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 8: in Congress are useless. We cannot pass the Save America Act. 439 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 8: It is an eighty twenty issue. There's a problem with 440 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 8: Republicans in the Congress, and I think that a lot 441 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 8: of Americans, MAGA and Republican and conservative are going to say, 442 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 8: what's the point. What's the point of voting in a 443 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 8: midterm When John Thune can't get an eighty twenty eighty 444 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 8: twenty issue over the finish line. And here's the thing, right, 445 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 8: and it's going to happen when Democrats retake the House. 446 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: And send it. 447 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 8: Maybe not in twenty twenty six or two thousand, eventually 448 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 8: they're going to have the tricector. 449 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: It happens every so often. 450 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 8: And when they have the tricector, the Democrats are going 451 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 8: to undo the filibuster, and they're going to put in 452 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 8: court packing. They're going to make Puerto Rico a state, 453 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 8: they're going to do Washington, DC estate, and they're going 454 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 8: to make themselves a perpetual majority. And I don't understand 455 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 8: why Democrats don't get that. At the very least, Andrew 456 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 8: have the talking filibuster in order to get the Save 457 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 8: America Act over the finish line. 458 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's one of those things where I was 459 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: at a presentation a couple of weeks ago, Jerry just 460 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: sort of speaking of the doom on you, and I 461 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: mean that in doing under others as they would do 462 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: unto you. First, the idea of apparently you can undo 463 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: the session of land from DC to Virginia to create 464 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: Alexandria and Arlington Counties. Apparently that can be undone by 465 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: executive order, and I'm like, go go ahead and do it. 466 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: As someone who lives in Virginia, I would love to 467 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: see that happens. Let's let's get rid of all of 468 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: those voters. Have them allgo. 469 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 8: But the point is is that the Democrats, the Progressives, 470 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 8: they have the conviction they put forward their ideas, as unpopular. 471 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: As they are. I saw get it done. 472 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: I saw the meme it said Democrats care more about 473 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: destroying America than Republicans care about saving it, which is 474 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: or have the conviction to do this. Speaking of which, 475 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: and speaking of people who don't have the courage of 476 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: their convictions, I mean sam Alito did some great work. 477 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to play this clip later on yesterday, the 478 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: birthright citizenship issue, the president of the president, the Democrats 479 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: getting all apoplectic about the president taking his rightful seat. 480 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: He always has a seat up at the High Court 481 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: sitting there, Sean. 482 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: This shows you how how how ignorant we are. 483 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 8: There is forever there is a special place for the 484 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 8: president and other highdeen of their dignitaries to witness the 485 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 8: Supreme Court proceedings. Just because no president has done so 486 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 8: doesn't mean that it's somehow UH tents amount to UH 487 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 8: a violation of separation of powers. It shows you how 488 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 8: Trump's arrangement syndrome is in the heads of everyone. 489 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 2: But let me say this, Andrew, because I think I 490 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: know who you're going. 491 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 8: And Justice Justice Kagan, she she in my mind, had 492 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 8: the best synopsis of what where I think this is going. 493 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 8: She said that your argument to this is to the 494 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 8: social general UH. Your argument is based upon UH tourism, 495 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 8: birth tourism. You don't get to your argument of the 496 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 8: actual context of the fourteenth of the fourteenth Amendment, the 497 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 8: context during when it was passed into fourteen steam pages, 498 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 8: into your into your brief. In other words, the administration 499 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 8: made the wrong argument. They're going to lose this, not 500 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 8: because they're wrong on the law or wrong on the constitution, 501 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 8: because birthright citizenship is not allowed by the fourteenth Amendment. 502 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: And I would go toe to toe with anyone on 503 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: this issue. 504 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 8: But the fact of the matter is the Supreme Court 505 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 8: Justice Roberts will take a narrow view here and look 506 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 8: at the argument made, and this administration focused too much 507 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 8: on birth tourism, and that could be fixed with administrative fixes, 508 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 8: with regulations and with the law, and so the court 509 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 8: is going to say, Nope, you didn't you didn't make 510 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 8: your points. 511 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: And they and they're going to lose. 512 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: And it's one of those things, Jerry, I will never 513 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: forget you and I were having coffee when the Obamacare 514 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: decision came down and they they said that it's a 515 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: it's a tax, even though it had been argued differently. 516 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny because somebody pointed out that 517 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: the arguments that Justice Jackson was using yesterday are the 518 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: opposite of I'm sorry, no with the argue the argument 519 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: she gave in her dissent about the. 520 00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: Free speech on there speech the free. 521 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: Speech situation is the opposite. 522 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: Of the ones conversion therapy. 523 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: Yes, the conversion therapy is the opposite of of of 524 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: the transgender surgery situation. But I will never forget Jerry. 525 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: Myron Ebel, our colleague get the Competitive Enterprise Institute, said, 526 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: just you warn me when Justice Roberts was appointed he 527 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: is he is not one of us, and and that 528 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: that still comes back. 529 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 8: I mean Roberts though, is he's a smart and I 530 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 8: think and honest man, you're right, is he a is 531 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 8: he a? 532 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 4: Is he? 533 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: Is he a scully? 534 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 8: And no, but that's the problem this administration made. Again, 535 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 8: I'm angry with this administration. They made the wrong argument, 536 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 8: and that's the problem. The problem isn't the fourteenth Amendment 537 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 8: and should be interpreted differently. It should be that birth 538 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 8: birthright citizenship should be argued. They didn't argue birthright rightship. 539 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 8: They argued birth tourism. And that's why they're going to 540 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 8: lose right. 541 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: It can be fixed there, Jerry, how to folks, Well. 542 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 8: They might surprise us a five four decisions that is 543 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 8: so narrow it does nothing right. 544 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: Well, I'm more or just addresses the birth tourism issue, 545 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: which you know would be would be okay. But but 546 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: but you know, that's that that that's that's right. They'll 547 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: they'll find a. 548 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 8: Way way to stop the community because no, no, But 549 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 8: the reason why this issue hasn't been addressed is because 550 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 8: no president has had the uh, the. 551 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: The testicular for the two role. 552 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 8: Yes, thank you to do it. And so what a 553 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 8: blown opportunity. And and frankly, I think this is why 554 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 8: I am a little upset and concerned about the midterms, 555 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 8: because we keep on, we say we the administration and 556 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 8: Republicans of Congress keep on making unforced errors. 557 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: Well, it's the it's the the stupid versus the evil party, 558 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: and and and and all of that jazz snatching defeat 559 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: from the jaws of victory. Jerry, how do folks find 560 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: out more about the good work you're doing. 561 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: Real clear policy, real clear health. 562 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 8: Go there, go to X and go to at Jerry 563 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 8: Rodgers show, and uh and and hear all the wisdom 564 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 8: coming out of my out of my brain. 565 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: You're up early on a Sunday. Check out, Jerry. Thank 566 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: you very much, my friend. I'll talk to you later 567 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: on Ye got bunch of buddy. Jerry is the guys 568 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: that you can listen. I talked to him, literally talked 569 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: to him several times a day. Listen. Go on, go 570 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: on X, go on Facebook, and you'll see pictures of 571 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: me and Jerry from the weekend before this past one 572 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: up in Yonkers, New York. Uh for for Saint Patrick's Day. 573 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: We had an epic, epic day for Saint Patrick's Day. 574 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: More on Artemis when we return. I am Andrew Langer. 575 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: This is Tony Kats today and yes, the Artemis two 576 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: astronauts will be on the dark side of the moon 577 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: tremendously excited about this because if you don't know this, 578 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: by the way, it's fascinating again sort of orbital mechanics 579 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: on how that all works. The way the moon rotates 580 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: in I'm sorry, yeah, the way the Moon rotates in 581 00:32:54,360 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: in sync with the way it revolves around the Earth, right, 582 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: is such that it's constantly turning, so that the one 583 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: face is constantly facing the Earth. It's really kind of 584 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: kind of crazy that way, the way that that works. 585 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: In any case, I referenced this before. At the beginning 586 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: of every episode of From the Earth to the Moon 587 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: on HBO, they play an excerpt from this speech by 588 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: John F. Kennedy at Rice University announcing why we're going 589 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: to the Moon ahead, land and pulled this. Let's go 590 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: ahead and hear. 591 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: It, Landon. 592 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 6: There is no strife, no prejudice, no national conflict in 593 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 6: out of space. As yet it hazards a hostile to 594 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 6: us all its conquest, deserves the best of all mankind, 595 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 6: and it's opportunity for peaceful cooperation may never come again. 596 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 9: Yet. 597 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 10: But why, some say the Moon, why choose this as 598 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 10: our goal? And they may well ask why climb the 599 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 10: highest mountain? Five thirty five years ago? Fly the Atlantic. 600 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 10: Why does Rice play Texas? 601 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: We choose to go to the moon. 602 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 2: We choose to go to the moon. 603 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 6: We choose to go to the moon, and this decay 604 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 6: and do the other things. 605 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 9: Not because they are easy, but because they are hard, 606 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 9: because that goal will serve to organize and measure the 607 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 9: best of our energies and skills, because that. 608 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 10: Challenge is one that we're willing to accept, one we 609 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 10: are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win. 610 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 6: And the others too. 611 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: There we can end up there. I mean, that's that's it. 612 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: In a nutshell. Listen, I make no bones about this. 613 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: I am a sucker for a master rhetortician, someone who 614 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: can give a speech and articulate an idea, someone who 615 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: who thinks deeply about about issues. And we'll listen. We 616 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: all know Kennedy had had his pre elections, et cetera, 617 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: et cetera. But the man was able to articulate an 618 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: idea to the American people. It wasn't the same thing 619 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: with FDR. Again, I disagree with everything that FDR had 620 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: to say. It's why I love Winston Churchill. You know, 621 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: I could listen to Winston Churchill for hours on end. 622 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, this is why 623 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: we choose to go to the moon and do the 624 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: other things, not because they are easy, but because they 625 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: are hard, because we are Americans and we can do 626 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: this because we got a great good. Another couple hours 627 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: coming up on Tony Katz today, we got Sarah Macon 628 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: joining us. In the next hour, we got Josh McLeod 629 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: from the National Federation of Independent Business. I want to 630 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: hear from you at Andrew Underscore langer On X. I 631 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: am Andrew langer In for Tony Katz. And this, of 632 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: course is the wonderful Tony Cats today