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Speaker 2: Fingers Moloy, we offered sixty nine point three million.

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Speaker 1: Just got beat out. Pity too. It's eat, drink, smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katzen. That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker.

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Speaker 1: Fingers Molloy. And this from Alec Bradley, going back to

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Speaker 1: I think twenty nineteen is when this cigar came out.

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Speaker 1: This is the gatekeeper. We're doing the toro right here,

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Speaker 1: which is a six x fifty two, which means it's

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Speaker 1: That's not my every day This into the Churchill is

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Speaker 1: You do what you have to do first things first.

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Speaker 1: This is an Ecuadorian habano rapper here Nicaragua, and the

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Speaker 1: That wrapper feels so great. It's got oil, it's got grit.

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Speaker 1: It is brown with that modeled black almost streaking through

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Speaker 1: say it, it's beefy. It does you actually do feel

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Speaker 1: this your first time having the gatekeeper fingers? I believe

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Speaker 1: so it is not for me. It is not my

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Speaker 1: first time having first time today, Just not my first time.

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Speaker 1: You always remember your first That's not true at all.

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Speaker 1: There's so many cigars. I'm like, I don't remember having

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Speaker 1: But it feels great and it looks great. Uh, you've

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Speaker 1: eight by eighty kind of ring gage, just an absolute mondle.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was only seventy ring gage, but still absolutely huge.

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Speaker 2: He too, was a cigar. It's called the Black Magic

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Speaker 1: Magic Toast was the cigar that I thought for Alec

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Speaker 1: Bradley like kind of reset them, like, oh, okay, we're

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Speaker 1: Bradley the gatekeeper right here. And I always thought that

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, this doesn't break the bank kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Not much more than that, I can tell you. You know,

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Speaker 1: Because if that's pepper that is not black pepper, I

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Speaker 1: The weather we have had beautiful weather in Indianapolis, still

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Speaker 1: Write them down, doesn't matter how weird it is, how

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Speaker 2: Any flavor, no matter how crazy at me look in print?

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Speaker 2: Are you saying that there are people an eat, rink

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Speaker 1: get asked this question a lot, we agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Not everybody deserves a tip, and not everything deserves a tip.

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Speaker 1: If you want to tip, though, send those to eat,

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Speaker 1: The idea of every place now sets up to, hey,

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Speaker 2: when it's in podcast form. Having said that, I'll give

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Speaker 1: Now, if you don't know what Fingers is talking about,

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Speaker 1: Eat Drink Smoke. It is your cigar Bourbon FOOTI Extravaganza.

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Speaker 1: Let's smoke together, Let's drink together, Let's fall in love

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Speaker 1: of how you create do a building of the Gaza strip.

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Speaker 1: And it's very interesting because what these nations are saying

429
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: is all right, we'll buy in because and if that

430
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Speaker 1: is the case, if it happens like that, of course

431
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: they're putting their money in. They're going to be very

432
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Speaker 1: concerned about protecting their investment. And that is what ends

433
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: Hamas's capability because they won't put up with it, they

434
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Speaker 1: won't have it. And that's where the real change in

435
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: this conversation is not this fantasy of a two state solution.

436
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: You can't live next to people who want to murder you.

437
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 1: And as Hamas has written in their charter, in their create,

438
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: it's who they are. So this changes the dynamic. And

439
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: I have my own thoughts, my own views. If a

440
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: way I didn't think about it can work and create

441
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Speaker 1: a safe Israel and therefore putting an end to terrorists.

442
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm all in putting an end to terrorists. I'm all in.

443
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: But this is not a good sign as we're seeing

444
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: it right now.

445
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 2: Well, I hesitated to bring this up because, of course,

446
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: like you mentioned, we're putting the show together a little

447
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 2: earlier than normal, and this the story can change fifty

448
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: times between now and when it airs. But this is

449
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: just too big of a story to not at least

450
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Speaker 2: a touch upon. But having said that, I to be

451
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: completely honest with you, you and I have talked about

452
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 2: this off air. I was actually surprised that there were

453
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Speaker 2: still hostages alive.

454
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Speaker 1: I am amazed, I am thrilled. It was the fear

455
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: of fears that there would be nobody to hand over

456
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: it is. It is spectacular that seven hundred and thirty

457
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Speaker 1: seven days in hell. It is spectacular that people been

458
00:25:54,119 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: able to return home. But it's it's this is this

459
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: is the stuff being talked about in cigar lines. So

460
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: we talk about it here, so we're certainly right to

461
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: be talking about it. And yes, as we're discussing it,

462
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: information will change. But this is all fraught, absolutely positively fraught.

463
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: Uh.

464
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: The the odds of this working as advertised three percent? Right,

465
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's dumb and dumbers. You're telling me there's

466
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: a chance, Well, yeah, sure, there's there's a chance. I'm

467
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: not going to argue it. It's just this is hard stuff.

468
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: It is.

469
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Speaker 2: And while I appreciate the celebration, especially about the hostages

470
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Speaker 2: coming home and maybe a return to at least a

471
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Speaker 2: period of non violence in the region. You just have

472
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: to say to yourself, Okay, how long is this going

473
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: to last? Just based on what's happened in the past.

474
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: It's and and off. The quick doesn't look great. And man,

475
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: I want to be wrong. I think everybody wants to

476
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: be wrong. And there's an extent if we're talking about America,

477
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: just don't want to talk about it anymore? Can I

478
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: please focus on something else? I don't know if we're

479
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: going at Lucky or not. I hope. So should you

480
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: marinade your steak before the cooking? And the answer is, well,

481
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: it depends what do you like, but it does to

482
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: an extent depend on the cut. It's eat Drink smoke.

483
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: I'm Tony Kats and that right there is America's favorite

484
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: amateur drinker fingers below. I find it all Eat Drink

485
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: Smoke show dot com. The story was over at the

486
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: takeout the four cuts of steak. You should always marinate

487
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: before grilling. Now, before we get into anything, do you

488
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: ever marinate steaks? No, you're not into the marinates.

489
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: No, A little salt, little pepper. That's about it. I

490
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 2: season it.

491
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't.

492
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 2: It's very rare that I would marinate a steak. But

493
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 2: if I were to marinate a steak, it would generally

494
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 2: be maybe a lesser cut of meat that I would

495
00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: marinade to try to enhance the f and then I

496
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: would slow cook it, you know, do a reverse sere

497
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: to maybe help with the tenderness of the steak.

498
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: So the idea is, you know, depending on where the

499
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: steak comes from, comes from, larger cuts, whole muscle cuts

500
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: maybe could get the marinade. And so they recommend here

501
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: a marinade on your flat iron steak, your surloin steak,

502
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: your try tip, and your skirt steak. Now skirt steak, Yes,

503
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: because that's gonna be thinner, that's that's going to cook faster,

504
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: and it just it absorbed to me, it absorbs better.

505
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: It's just a natural, uh to do with with a

506
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: a kind of marinade. There, Uh, skirt steak coming from

507
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: the middle of the cow, it could be a little

508
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: bit tough, so helping break that down a little bit.

509
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: I agree with that wholeheartedly. On the surloins, I like

510
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: the idea of this because you'll find the surloins right

511
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: now at a better price if you're in a store.

512
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: But if you're going to think of a sirloin as

513
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: your ribbi or your strip, you're wrong. It's not how

514
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna come out, and you're gonna get disappointed. So

515
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: what I like about the marinade on a sirloin is

516
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 1: that you are forced to recognize that it's something different.

517
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 1: You're forced to take a little bit of time, and

518
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: that little bit of time, I think is going to

519
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: give you a lot of result. Soy and honey, soy

520
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: sauce and honey as a marinade, just a classic right there,

521
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: I think can do a really really good job. Some

522
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: people would say go with some some more Southwestern flavors.

523
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: They recommend the lime juice, Cilantro and Chile's, and then

524
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: some people recommend orange juice. I have marinated steaks and

525
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: orange juice before and had miserable results. Miserable, terrible, awful,

526
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: not good, not like. Stuff that I made is part

527
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: of like a whole bunch of things. And I didn't

528
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: even serve them that so that could have just been

529
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: me not making it right. But as a concept, it

530
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: is right when it's not one of those standard cuts.

531
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: His fingers just talking about salt pepper grill.

532
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've never attempted to use this as a marinade,

533
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: but the takeout in this piece suggests for skirt steak

534
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: maybe using yogurt as a as a marinad.

535
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: Have you ever used yogurt for for a marinade? Wait

536
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: on the skirts steak this yes, no, No.

537
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: Yogurt makes for a milder marinad for your meat than

538
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: citrus or vinegar since it contains lactic acid, a substance

539
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: that can be that can add moisture to meat without

540
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: making it mushy.

541
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Speaker 1: Mushy, mushy, mushy, mushy, mushy mushy. Right when I think

542
00:30:53,480 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: yogurt on steak, I think mushi. I don't. It's it's

543
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: a good idea. It's a good idea. Now the key

544
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: here is get better steak. And that's why you want

545
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: Defiance Beef. Defiancebeef dot com in Indiana, ship directly to

546
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: your door, cut to your specifications, age twenty one days.

547
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: The meat is fantastic. I've had the strips, I've had

548
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: the ribbis, I've had the tender loins, I have had

549
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: the ground beef. It is fantastic. And you order your

550
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: quarter cow, your half cow, your full cow, and you

551
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: use promo code eat drink smoke when you order, you're

552
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: gonna get one hundred and fifty dollars off. And then

553
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: after the aging process, they're gonna give you a call

554
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 1: and say, okay, what do you want? And based on

555
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: what size you ordered, they'd be like, okay, we'll get

556
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: you this many strips and this many ribbys, and how

557
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: do you want to cut? And this and that do

558
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: you want? Do you want the soup bones? That was

559
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: the question I gotta ask, do you want the soup bones?

560
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: And I'm like, uh, yes, I do. I'm gonna make

561
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: my own beef broth, of course, my own beef stock

562
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: without question. Defiance d e F I a nce defiancebeef

563
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 1: dot com is where you want to order from, and

564
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: you want to use promo code, eat drink smoke and

565
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: get one hundred and fifty dollars off your order and fingers.

566
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: We've done enough grilling. It matters, you know. If I'm

567
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: doing briskets, I only do prime briskets or kosher briskets.

568
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: I have tried choice, I have not had satisfaction. I'll

569
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: pay more with Defiance beef overall. When you're buying a

570
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: quarter cow, a half cow, or a foll cow at

571
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: defines beef dot com, you're gonna pay less than the supermarkets,

572
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: for sure. Those prices are nuts.

573
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: How often do you find yourself picking up a flat

574
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: iron steak or skirt steak?

575
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: I find myself with a flat iron if there's some

576
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: kind of deal going on. Skirt steak. I don't order enough.

577
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: Skirt steak. I don't order enough. I like a skirt steak.

578
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: I think you can do it well on a grill.

579
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: I think you can do it well cast iron. I

580
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: do think that the marinade is right, and I just

581
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: think it's easy, boom bop and done. So yeah, I

582
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: like it.

583
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: I really that's That's one thing I have never cooked with.

584
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: I don't have one is a cast iron. Oh come on,

585
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: I know, go get it. So do you think I

586
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: here now in the house, Yes, the new house which

587
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: he's not fully moved into yet, Ladies and gentlemen. With

588
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: the gas stove. Yes, this is weird. It's your first

589
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: gas stove. Yes, I thirty eight years young and it's

590
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: my first gas stove. And I don't have this.

591
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: So should I go could go back to thirty eight

592
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: years old. Let's just move on.

593
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: Should I go ahead and buy a new cast iron

594
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: skillet and season it? Or should I go antiquing hope

595
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: to find a really old one and recondition it.

596
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: Okay, you need to listen to me. Okay, I'm listening.

597
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: If you buy a used cast iron skillet, huh, I

598
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: will hit you with a skillet with with sid skillet.

599
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: But I think we've been saying cast iron stove, cast

600
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: iron skillet, buy a new one, season it, work it in,

601
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: give it time. Yes, that's exactly the way to do it.

602
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: Take some pride.

603
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: What about the sense of accomplishment and satisfaction knowing that

604
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: I brought an old cast iron skillet back to life?

605
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: How about the pride and satisfaction one day showing up

606
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: to the show ready to do the show? That would

607
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: be great. What are you saying? Don't do that? Get

608
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: yourself something, get this, don't don't mortally knows what they

609
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: were making in that thing, don't you dare?

610
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm envisioning God that the old ranch cook was out

611
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: there with his cast iron skillet making sonny, yes, son yes,

612
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: making some beans in the cast iron skillet for for

613
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: the boys while they're out there ranching all day. And

614
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: then somehow, you know, Sonny passed away, and then they thought,

615
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: we can't use Sonny's skillet, And next thing you know,

616
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: it's a good will waiting for me to pick it

617
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: up and then bring her back to life. You're saying, no,

618
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: that's ridiculous.

619
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's ridiculous. I want to be on

620
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: the record. I'm not saying it's ridiculous. You know. You're

621
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: saying it's ridiculous for me to do it. I'm saying

622
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: it's gross. There's a very large difference in ridiculous in gross. Yeah,

623
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: I know. No, no, no, don't get me wrong. I'm

624
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: sure people do it. We're gonna get emails from Eat, Drink,

625
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: Smoke Nation saying Tony, you are such a primadonna, prude,

626
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: you Joe, you do this and you do that, and

627
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: the next thing you know, you're cooking delicious.

628
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: No.

629
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: Is it that it's cast iron? Or is it you

630
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: would never buy any second hand cook wear at all?

631
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: Like would you buy a second hand chafing dish?

632
00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: Yes? I bought secondhand knives, And I'm questioning whether the

633
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: cast iron we had was secondhand.

634
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 2: Now that you bring it up. Oh, so here we are.

635
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: You're turning each rink smoke into your own den of lies.

636
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: No, I'm going back to remember, and if it is

637
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: indeed used, I have to stop using it immediately. I

638
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: don't think it is. I think I think I bought

639
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: it ours is is.

640
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Speaker 2: Good present it. I'll take it to the boys in

641
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: the lab and we'll find out how old it is.

642
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: It's probably seventy years old and you didn't even know it.

643
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: It's so great that you don't have money. You know what,

644
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: I will get you one now. I will purchase you one.

645
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: You don't have to do that. I want to. It'll

646
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: be cheaper than the other gift I was gonna get

647
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: you for the new house.

648
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: Do you use a little spray in it before you

649
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: before you cooking it.

650
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm not having this conversation anymore. To XO. I gotta

651
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: admit I've seen the bottle around, but I didn't know

652
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: what to XO was until you realize it's about a

653
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: double oak techne and you're like, oh, I don't want

654
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: to drink that. It's eat drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz.

655
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: That is fingers. Will I find everything at Eat Drinks,

656
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: smokeshow dot com. That's what we are having today, the

657
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: two XO Oak series. American Oak, it says American Oak,

658
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 1: and yes it does. You don't have to check. This

659
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: is from Dixon, Deadman of Kentucky Owl Fame.

660
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if we've done two XO before. I believe

661
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 2: we have not this one though, No, I don't think so.

662
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: But I specifically remember saying that two XO is better

663
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: than one XO, but not as good as three XO.

664
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: This comes in right here at forty seven percent alcohol

665
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: by volume or ninety four proof. No applause, fingers MOLOI

666
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: does not applaud for anything that is under one hundred proof.

667
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: I poured big today.

668
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was watching you poor and I was like, Okay,

669
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: he's gonna quit. No, no, he's still pouring. Oh no, no,

670
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: it has it been a day.

671
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: No quit And Tony Kats that's that's absolutely right. I

672
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: like the color here right, A little darker, a little

673
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: orange e right here. Not maybe as rich as you

674
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: might like and in in some of those ambers, but

675
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: it's a it's a nice, nice color sticking to the

676
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: glass a little bit in that nose fingers flog. Hmm,

677
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: A little oak. There's a little ethanol. Oh ha, I

678
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: got a little hot on the nostril right there.

679
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: You getting a little honey on top of us, some

680
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 2: caramel and oak, and then the ethanol that you're referring to.

681
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: There's a little ethanol for sure. Nose is started as

682
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: sweet then got kind of kind of rich, very very full.

683
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would call that. I'm trying

684
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: to think of. There there's fruit, but it's not maybe

685
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: playing the stone fruits. It's not overwhelming. It's certainly not orchard.

686
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: It's certainly not bright. It's certainly not berries, and it's

687
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: not citrus. No, no, it is not.

688
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what it is. If you get

689
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: past that little bit of that of that ethanol, it's nice.

690
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: It's nice. I'm not complaining. I'm not complaining about it

691
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: at all. But enough enough sniff and fingers malloy, Are

692
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: you ready for this?

693
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 2: It's my favorite song, by the way. Enough sniffing, enough sniffing. Yeah,

694
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: it's off of Alabama's third album, Alabama three.

695
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: Are you ready for that? I've been ready for this

696
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: all fingers mlloy is gonna do what's known as the

697
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: Kentucky chow, that is moving the juice around the palate,

698
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: getting a feel for the flavors. I like the two

699
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: sip theory, the two sip theory. I'm gonna say it again,

700
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: the two sip theory. The first zip to set the

701
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: taste buds, the second sip to really get an idea

702
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: of where the flavors are. Yeah, I'm still hit by

703
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: that ethanol, but there is a sweetness, there is a

704
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: pleasantness underneath eat that it's just for me. The ethnol

705
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: is hitting a little bit harder. I don't know. I

706
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: don't know why.

707
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: It's nice first of all, nice little bit of staying

708
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 2: on the tongue, gentle, warmth in the chest, nice bit

709
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 2: of oak. There is that caramel that that I referenced

710
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: on the nose. It does transfer to the palette, and

711
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: a bit of spice. It's it's very nice. I really

712
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 2: like it. I don't know if I want a monkey

713
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: with it by putting water in it later in the show,

714
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: but I will for each drink.

715
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: Smoke Nation, you are.

716
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: A great American, but I'm very curious to see what

717
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: you think, Tony.

718
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm going in This is the two XO the Oak series,

719
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: American Oak.

720
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: He's going in ladies and gentlemen, and he's doing what

721
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 2: we like to call the Memphis munch, the Chattanooga chomp,

722
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 2: the Sagana swish.

723
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: And oh, that's way sweeter than I thought it was

724
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: gonna be. That is way sweeter. He's going in.

725
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: That's why he made the big poor He knew he

726
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: was going to go in for seconds right away.

727
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: But too sweet for Tony.

728
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, oh wow. I just swallowed that

729
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: in a big gulp, and that hurt.

730
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: Okay, that is sweeter. That has got vanilla, that's got caramel.

731
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 1: It's rich, it's almost serrapy. That is a big mouth

732
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: feel fully coating the tongue. The lips have a little

733
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: bit of sting. You can feel it in the cheek.

734
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: I have to work now now I feel the heat

735
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: center chest. Okay, right like like through the sturnumer. I

736
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: feel it right there.

737
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: But that's not like, oh my gosh, that's that's nearly

738
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: a hundred proof.

739
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: No, no, I it's it's it's not painful. It is

740
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: much more luscious than I would thought. It's much creamier.

741
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: The guy's over at whiskey advocate said whipped cream. And

742
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: I think they're onto something because it is much more

743
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: about a feel than maybe about a flavor. But it's

744
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: a way to describe the cream. I think that's really

745
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: really nice. I'm getting that.

746
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: I'm noticing that, especially on the finish, like it really

747
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: lingers and I could see where you would get that.

748
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: So there's a creamy finish to it.

749
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna lie, it's a little smoky. Really,

750
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, Am I kidding? That? Go back in

751
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: for thirds, not judging, So how smoky? Huh. There's a

752
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 1: sweetness that kind of counteracts the concept of the bourbon

753
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: caramel that you would normally maybe want or expect. But

754
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good happening in here, tremendous. I

755
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: can't wait to put this on a cube. I can't

756
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,959
Speaker 1: wait to see what that's like. But I could see

757
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: how people are doing this. I could see how people

758
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: are are our simpness. There's real richness going on with

759
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: this bourbon. This is the two XO. This is the

760
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: American Oak And you can find the website, by the

761
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: way at two XO number two XO, whiskey dot com,

762
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: Fingers Momoy This was released back in twenty twenty three.

763
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: Is this in your liquor cabinet? For forty nine ninety nine.

764
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: A bottle without putting it through more of a test

765
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: with the cool drops of water in it.

766
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: At this point I would say yes, I want it

767
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: on a cube to know if it's in my liquor cabinet.

768
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: But off the cuff, off the off the first. I

769
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: definitely see how this is in somebody's liquor cabinet. This

770
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: is a flavor that's going to work for people, right,

771
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: not overwhelming on the proof, So therefore not this this

772
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: overarching punch, but a that that that sweet still feeling

773
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: some oak, that finish that plays no bitter whatsoever, feeling

774
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: it in the cheek, that fullness. Ah, yeah, there's there's

775
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: something here to appreciate for sure. That isn't that is interesting?

776
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: Do I want more oak? Yes? What I like a

777
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: little less sweetness? Absolutely for me, a little less sweetness,

778
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: a little more oak and I and I and I.

779
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: It's not that I want this big spice bomb, but

780
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: I think that would just be the there'd be just a

781
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: touch more balance that makes me say, oh, absolutely for me,

782
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: it presented with much more oak than it did for you.

783
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: And I think this is where we're really starting to

784
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: notice a difference in our palates. Because I have such

785
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: a ridiculous sweet tooth. This doesn't feel overly sweet to me,

786
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: but it is sweet, yes it is. But that's not

787
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: the first thing that hit me was the oak. Really Yeah,

788
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, that's oak, and then everything else started

789
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: me later for me, and I would just I would

790
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: like a better balance. But we'll see what the cube

791
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: has to bring. We'll see what the water brings for.

792
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: Fingers mooy find everything at Eat drinksmokeshow dot com and

793
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram, Eat Drink Smoke podcast and the

794
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: Twitter x go Eat Drink Smoke. Everything is stupid expensive,

795
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: It's stupid. What's going on? Gold is forty one hundred

796
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: dollars an ounce. It might be more by the time

797
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: you hear this. It's crazy. What is going on is surreal.

798
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: And there's this report from Kelly Blue Book that kind

799
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: of proves the point. It's Eat Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz,

800
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 1: that is fingers MOOI find it all at Eat Drinks

801
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: smokeshow dot com. If you would, we'd appreciate it. If

802
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: you'd head on over there and be a part of

803
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: what we're doing and what we're growing. Kelly blue Book

804
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: has this story where the new vehicle average transaction price

805
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: is over fifty thousand dollars for the first time ever.

806
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 1: A new car on average fifty k Go ahead, Fingers,

807
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: explain it to me. Cars are really expensive now, Thank you, Fingers.

808
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate that incredible update.

809
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: But it is amazing to look at the data, and

810
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: unfortunately I had seen a few stories about this and

811
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: it was I believe five years ago it was just

812
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: forty thousand. It's gone up to fifty thousand in just

813
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: five years. There's so many things going into this between

814
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: new regulations as far as what needs to go into

815
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 2: a vehicle. There's the tariff conversation, there is the supply

816
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: chain issues that automotive manufacturers have had, and also market demand.

817
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: People are willing to pay that amount of money for

818
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 2: a new vehicle, so automotive manufacturers are going to charge

819
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: that kind of money for that vehicle.

820
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: The ATP, which is the average transaction price, was above

821
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: fifty thousand for the first time. If you take a

822
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: look at MSRP twenty twenty six, models are now hitting

823
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: a lot. The MSRP reached an average fifty two and

824
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: eighty three dollars the average price. Now you've got luxury vehicles,

825
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: you've got electric vehicles, which of course raising the average

826
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: price of everything, even though less and less electric vehicles

827
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: are are being sold because the madness of the push

828
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: from the federal government is non existent and any longer.

829
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: You've also done away with the subsidies now, so that's

830
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: going to change the electric vehicle market. And there's some

831
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: cool electric vehicles out there, you know, full disclosure. I

832
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: work with a local car company here in Indianapolis called

833
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: Andy Moore Ford. I drive their Forward vehicles and I'm

834
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: driving the Ford Lightning, which is the electric pickup, and

835
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's incredible. It is sensational. But it

836
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: has to fit a certain lifestyle. You know, I work

837
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: from home. It fits perfectly. I have a friend that

838
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: has the Hummer EV which is unbelievable, but again it

839
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: has to fit a certain lifestyle. It is not a

840
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: for everybody a vehicle. But there are now more than

841
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: sixty models with an average transaction price above seventy five thousand,

842
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: sales nearing ninety four thousand units. Seven point four percent

843
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: of total industry sales, up from six percent in twenty

844
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: twenty four. And then you know of that the Cadillac

845
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: Escalate is still the big dog in that in that group.

846
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: You have mentioned on the show before that people are

847
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: doing not five year loans, six year loans, no, no, no,

848
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: six year loans, seven year loans, no no, no, not

849
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: seven year loans, eight year loans, which you have to

850
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: do to make fifty thousand dollars work for a budget. Yeah,

851
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: is this based on you? You've brought this up before,

852
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: all the added nonsense they're putting into cars that no

853
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: one actually cares about. Is this a labor conversation? Is

854
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: this a technology premium conversation? Or is this well, what

855
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Not buy a new car? Not

856
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: have a new car in the neighborhood. Everyone's got a

857
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: new car. Okay, best of luck to you at the

858
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: PTA meeting. It's all of that. It's absolutely all of that.

859
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: Labor prices of labor costs have gone up, you know, regulations,

860
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 2: you continue to have new things, and a lot of

861
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: it's just like nickel and dime stuff like the alarm

862
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: that lets you know that to remind you.

863
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: That Oh, good gosh, is that the kid that you

864
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: don't have is in the back seat.

865
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 2: Yes, it's so gross. Backup camp its gross. I mean

866
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: you just one right after another's, you know, and it's after.

867
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: A backup camera is a world class of mention. The

868
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: backup camera is spectacular. The thing that tells you if

869
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: a car is coming from the right for the left incredible.

870
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 1: The thing that tries to keep you in your lane.

871
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: The person who invented that should be sent to Siberia.

872
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: We're getting to the point now.

873
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: I believe in ten years, no one will know how

874
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: to parallel park anymore, because more and more vehicles have

875
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: the self parallel park.

876
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: Do I or do I not? In my garage have

877
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: a nineteen ninety nine Mazda Miata, so I could teach

878
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: my kids how to drive a stick. Yes, that got it.

879
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: To teach them to drive a stick, and then to

880
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: work on a car. That's pretty easy to work on

881
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: doing spark plugs this weekend.

882
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 2: Oh, nice plugs and wires. I don't think we have

883
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: the gapper. I was gonna say, do you have the gapper?

884
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: No, we've got everything else the gap. I get the

885
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: gap thing probably three or one if that's in the

886
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: box with the spark plugs.

887
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: Not Usually the gage is probably well last time I

888
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 2: bought one was three dollars right, so not But most

889
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 2: of them are already gap properly. But you need to

890
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: double check everyone's work. You know why, Tony, because almost

891
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 2: everyone is terrible at their job.

892
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: Terrible at their jobs. But learning stick, I mean stick

893
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: is a lost art. Parallel parking, it's not that tough.

894
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: Freely admit I've never driven a stick. And this is possible.

895
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 2: And this is coming from someone who has a Harley Davidson.

896
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: I ride a motorcycle and you you have you know,

897
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 2: you have to shift, manual shift on a motorcycle. But

898
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: my parents never had a manual car, manual transmission car.

899
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 2: I always drove, uh and continue to drive automatics. Now

900
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 2: it's getting really hard to find a car anymore that

901
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: has a manual transmission that's brand new.

902
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean you have to get a sports car. Yeah,

903
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 1: they're only a I will tell you. I've been driving

904
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: the Miana, and first of all, I look ridiculously, I

905
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: look up whatever kind of crisis I'm having, I look like,

906
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: but I'm so damn happy when I drive it. I

907
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: don't care. I'm convertible stick. It has an aftermarket exhaust

908
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: and the sound is just delicious. It's fantastic. But if

909
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: you're on the open road, because it's it's only a

910
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: five speed and you're going sixty, if you go sixty

911
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: to the whole car will fall apart. It's a go kart. Yeah,

912
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. And in Indianapolis and near Indianapolis, there's a

913
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: town called Carmel that has it has more roundabouts than

914
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: any other city in the country. It's known for its

915
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: roundabouts and if you take those at some level of speed,

916
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: you are sliding everywhere. But it's it's fantastic, I found out.

917
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: So we had the car for a while and then

918
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: the right rear went flaws. Like, okay, we need new tires.

919
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: So okay, we just bought the car used get new tires.

920
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: It's still happening the right rear tire, and so I

921
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: called the tire Gora. I'm like, what's the deal here,

922
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: and he goes, it could be that the chrome is peeling.

923
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, so, does that mean that it's like cutting

924
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: into the tire. No, it could be that the chrome

925
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: is peeled. And now the tire doesn't fit properly on

926
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: the rim. So you got to get new rims. You

927
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: gotta get new rims. That wasn't what I wanted. Getting

928
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: new rims was not the thing that I had planned

929
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: for in in this vehicle. I am not interested in

930
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: this thing. Nickel and diming me. You know. If I

931
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: gotta do something with the engine, I get it new rims.

932
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 2: You've got a twenty six year old vehicle. You're gonna

933
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: be nickeled and dimed. Son of a I paid. I

934
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 2: paid like nothing for there. Did you pay nickels and

935
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: dimes for it?

936
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: I paid nickels and rolled up, you know, but I

937
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: did pay nichols and nines for it. Now you should

938
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 1: you should know. I don't drive a stick looks alike.

939
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: It looks like a lot of fun, a lot of

940
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: money for a car. What eat, drink smoke? It is

941
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: your cigar, bourbon food, the extravaganza Tony Katz Fingers Meloy

942
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: right there. Find it all at E drinksmokeshow dot com.

943
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: This is the Alec in Bradley, the Alec Bradley gate

944
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: Keeper Toro six by fifty two. It is an Ecuadora

945
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: and Habano rapper nick Roguin and the binder. The filler

946
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: is nic Roguin and Dominican, coming in at just about

947
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 1: thirteen dollars a stick. And that that that cedar spice,

948
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: as I would describe it, has come down a bit

949
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: now that we're in the second third of the cigar,

950
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: deeply into it, and that's where the tobacco forward's coming out.

951
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: And now I'm a i'm a, I'm a yes, this

952
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: is where I like to be in the cigar, in

953
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: the This is why you got to buy one and

954
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: try it to see where you are with it. If

955
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: that spice is too much, again, I think that medium analysis.

956
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: I think it's certainly medium plus for sure. But it

957
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 1: is a well constructed cigar. Fingers, you've had a little

958
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: trouble keeping yours lit. I have not had that trouble

959
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: that can happen from time to time. A nice stick,

960
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: great hand feel. That rapper feels fantastic, oily, a little

961
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: bit gritty right there, A beefy stick. Really felt it

962
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: had the weight and good in the hand. I like

963
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: this cigar.

964
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you wholeheartedly about the tobacco forward.

965
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 2: And now I don't know if because I've had to

966
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 2: light it quite a bit in the last fifteen twenty

967
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 2: minutes and not getting that ammonia that you get sometimes

968
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: when you relight it over and over again it gets

969
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: too hot. But something's it's almost like a hey, I'm

970
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: getting right now, going along with that tobacco forward that

971
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: you mentioned, and then that spice has really subsided for me.

972
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 2: But at thirteen dollars less than thirteen dollars a stick

973
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 2: with twelve seven seven. Yeah, let's go with twelve seventy.

974
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, it's it's in my humidor. This

975
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: is it. It is in my humidor. And moving my

976
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: bourbon here onto the rocks. Let's got a getting rid

977
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: of a little bit of water, right, let me get

978
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: my drop. Yes, yes, yes, yes. This is the two

979
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: XO we're doing right here. This is two XO number

980
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: two XO Whiskey dot com there double Oak technique. This

981
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: is the American Oak Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey. I said

982
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: forty seven percent. I apologize forty six percent alcohol by volume,

983
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: which puts it in at ninety two proof not ninety

984
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: four proof. Fingers my apologies there. It was this unique

985
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: suite that was going on certainly the nose had a

986
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: bit of of ethanol to it, but it was a

987
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: little bit of like whipped cream going on, and I

988
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 1: thought maybe it was kind of like a stone fruits

989
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: is where it was at. There was definitely an oak

990
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: in there. I'd like to see the oak a little

991
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: bit more to maybe counteract, but I put it on

992
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: the rocks. That's how you know it's fresh. And I'm

993
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: going in because I think I think the cube is

994
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: gonna do something to it. Right. Ice, it's water, Water

995
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: brings down proof, it can open up the bourbon some flavors,

996
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: a little more pronounce I'm a little more muted. Here

997
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: we go. He's going in, ladies and gentlemen.

998
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: He's got the big rocks glass with a couple of

999
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 2: cubes in there, and he's doing the Memphis munch.

1000
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: That was a big sip. Yeah and oh yeah, So

1001
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: what did it do? Oh there's a little more spice

1002
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: happening on the tongue. That lusciousness is a little bit cut.

1003
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: There's a little more oak that's happening, and the sweet

1004
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: now just makes sense. There's a little more there's a

1005
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: little more fruit, a little more fruit happening on the

1006
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: tongue itself. No heat at all in the center chest.

1007
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: Now maybe feeling in the lower lower, lower chest. Oh

1008
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: that's not bad at all. Oh, look at you, you

1009
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: look so happy. Much better on the cube. This, This

1010
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: is a couple of ice chips. Much better. Okay, well

1011
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: on the cube.

1012
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: I was wondering, you know, about putting water here because

1013
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 2: I thought that it may bring out more spice. And

1014
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: now you're starting with that analysis to make me think

1015
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 2: that that's probably gonna happen with me.

1016
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. See what happens. And a little bit

1017
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: of water from the dropper that he did not bring

1018
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: with him. Once again, he has droppers to put it

1019
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: in the right amount of water. But water does change,

1020
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: It changes the complexion of the bourbon. And you have

1021
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: to do this. You need to go through this and

1022
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: try this in all the ways to see which one

1023
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: is right for you. And a bourbon you don't like meat,

1024
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: you might like on a cube, you might like water.

1025
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: You might say, no, I don't want water on this.

1026
00:58:58,960 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: I only want it neat.

1027
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 2: For the first time, I'm getting that kind of stone fruit.

1028
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: Note that you were talking about that water brought down

1029
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: the spice for me, and actually brought down a little

1030
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: bit of the oak for me before. The first thing

1031
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: that I noticed was the oak. I didn't notice it

1032
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: off the bat with a little bit of water in there.

1033
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 2: But that fruit, that stone fruit that you mentioned, I

1034
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 2: can see where you're getting that. Now the caramel is there,

1035
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 2: that oak, and the spice is still there, but it's

1036
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: a little bit more subdued than it was before. I

1037
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: would not be unhappy either having a neat or with

1038
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 2: water in it. So it's forty nine, you're still I'm

1039
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: still all in. Yeah, I think yes, I think having

1040
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 2: it on the cube, the answer is yes, you you should.

1041
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: This could be in my look.

1042
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this because I feel like

1043
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: I feel like you're hesitating a little bit on the guess.

1044
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: Is it because you'd rather with this flavor flavor profile

1045
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: it be more of a forty dollars bottle?

1046
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: And is this a value question? Now? This is a

1047
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: palette question. I think it's it's much better on the cube.

1048
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: I just I would like a little more, as I said,

1049
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: a little more oak in there. Okay, that would make me,

1050
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: that would make me happier. But I get it. I

1051
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: get it, and I could see the value that people

1052
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: would put in this as a as a nice bottle

1053
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: of the bourbon that they have. Forty nine ninety nine

1054
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: is not a cheap price, but it is more and

1055
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: more a standard price. So I can I could see this,

1056
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: I can understand where this is because I can that

1057
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: that presentation would work. Like, Okay, that's very very nice. Yeah,

1058
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: it's time Fingers Maloy for News of the Week.

1059
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: Tony The New York Post has the story Corporate media

1060
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 2: continues to struggle. NBC News is preparing for its largest

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Speaker 2: round of layoffs in years. About seven percent of the

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Speaker 2: workforce in the newsroom is going to be laid off.

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Speaker 2: How many seven one and fifty jobs? Okay, and you

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Speaker 2: know you've got the whole rebrand with MSNBC.

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Speaker 1: Now becoming ms now. That's literally what they're calling it,

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Speaker 1: News Opinion World, miss Now, yes, miss now, so many jokes.

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Speaker 1: Having said that, as opposed to miss right now. There

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Speaker 1: it is there. It is, by the way, terrible rebrand name, awful, awful.

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Speaker 1: I might as well call it new Coke terrible rename.

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Speaker 2: They would have been better off just coming up with

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Speaker 2: something completely different than trying to incorporate the MS in it. Right,

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Speaker 2: Just you know Peacock for instance. You know it's the

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Speaker 2: whole NBC umbrella. You got the Peacock app, and you

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Speaker 2: know you stream from Peacock. You should have come up

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Speaker 2: with something different.

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Speaker 1: Going the stalgeat and called it pets dot Com. There

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Speaker 1: you go. I was good.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna go with n RON. You went with

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Speaker 2: pets dot Com. But still the message is the same.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting here. Bear Sterns is still available.

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Speaker 1: Too soon.

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Speaker 2: No, if you look at my stock portfolio, it's too soon.

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Speaker 1: Having said that, nothing but n run Bear Sterns and

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Speaker 1: t w A. Thank god.

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Speaker 2: I thought we were gonna go a full episode without

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Speaker 2: a t w A reference. Never gonna happen. But this

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Speaker 2: is gonna happen all over. Yeah, I mean it's not.

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Speaker 2: It's this is not an NBC MS NBC problem. This

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Speaker 2: is a corporate media problem. And you know some media

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Speaker 2: outlets are trying to shake things up.

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Speaker 1: CBS News, my heart, which is owns radio stations where

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Speaker 1: country laid off of was it over fifty people last week?

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Speaker 1: And you know who lamented it? No one, With all

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Speaker 1: due respect, I am not going to lament NBC News

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Speaker 1: doing layoffs. I'm not gonna lament for these people. If

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Speaker 1: you lost your job, hey, that stinks. Losing your job stinks,

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Speaker 1: but no one is guaranteed a job. The market forces

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Speaker 1: are very very real here. So many people are getting

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Speaker 1: into this game and providing quote unquote news, and people

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Speaker 1: are going to all these other bifurcated spots. You can't

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Speaker 1: think that the model is going to work for forever,

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Speaker 1: and some models, some people aren't necessary. As models change,

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Speaker 1: as AI comes, as job descriptions morph, and more people

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Speaker 1: are doing more for less. You may not like it,

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01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: but it is what it is. After considering what my

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01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: life has been like being married and oh I'm staying married.

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01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: My marriage is very very good. The one thing that

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Speaker 1: my wife and I have concluded is that the wedding

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Speaker 1: was a terrible idea. See Drink Smoke Come Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: That is fingers below. I find it all at Eat

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Speaker 1: Drink Smoke show dot com. Yes, fingers Sha ba la lah.

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Speaker 1: Terrible idea. Why did we spend that money on those people?

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Speaker 1: Half of them we don't talk to anymore, another quarter

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Speaker 1: of which are dead? What was the point? See?

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Speaker 2: For me, half of them are dead and the other

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Speaker 2: at least a quarter of them we don't talk to anymore.

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Speaker 1: We could have done three weeks in Italy and those

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Speaker 1: memories would still be with us. It's not that we

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Speaker 1: didn't have a good time. Some other people didn't have

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Speaker 1: a good time. It's that we didn't. We know the

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Speaker 1: Italy trip would have been better for us. It would

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Speaker 1: have been better because it was never about the wedding.

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Speaker 1: It's about the marriage. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me pose this question to you. You

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Speaker 2: and I are you know, right around our You know,

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Speaker 2: we're in our late thirties. We've seen it all. We've been.

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Speaker 1: We've been there and we've done that. Yes, been to

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Speaker 1: I don't know a couple dozen weddings. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about you. Maybe four, maybe six.

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Speaker 2: You've been a four or six weddings. I've been in

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Speaker 2: four weddings. Really, Yes, I I've been in one wedding,

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Speaker 2: mister personality, been in one modding and you were. Both

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Speaker 2: of you and I we both have been an efficient well, yes.

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Speaker 1: I have been official. I forgot about that one. I've

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Speaker 1: been I've been an efficiant at what? Okay, So I

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Speaker 1: just have not been to hundreds of weddings like lots

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Speaker 1: of people. So how many people really want to go

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Speaker 1: to somebody else's wedding. I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Depends on the person.

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Speaker 2: I feel like once you reach especially once you reach

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Speaker 2: a certain age, it's one thing if you're like in

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Speaker 2: your early twenties, you're like, ooh, open bar. But uh,

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Speaker 2: for the most part, I feel like most people, unless

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Speaker 2: it's like a really close relative, right think to themselves.

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Speaker 2: I do not want to go to this wedding. I

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Speaker 2: don't care if it's an open bar. Why would they

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Speaker 2: pick Labor Day weekend? Why would they do a destination wedding.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go to this wedding. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to be I got to put on a suit

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Speaker 2: and go to pretend to like other people and show up.

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Speaker 2: I feel like eighty percent of the people that attend

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Speaker 2: the wedding feel like they have to be there and

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Speaker 2: don't really want to be there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the numbers, eighty percent, eighty percent, but

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Speaker 1: there's definitely those people. But by the way, we love, love,

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Speaker 1: hear any drink, smoke, and if you would like to

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Speaker 1: invite us to your wedding, we will show up. We'll

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Speaker 1: wear a tuxes, we will cut and light cigars for

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Speaker 1: everybody that's there. We won't bring you the cigars, you

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Speaker 1: have to pay for those yourself, but we will do it.

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Speaker 1: We will come to your wedding. Just email Fingers at

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Speaker 1: the drinksmokeshow dot com. We'll take care of that. The

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Speaker 1: reason I bring up weddings Fringers Will is there's a

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Speaker 1: story from the New York Post shocking number of Americans

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Speaker 1: open to having a sponsored wedding. So we have two

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Speaker 1: thousand Americans. Sixty one percent said they'd consider having a

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Speaker 1: brand sponsor for their big day or would have considered

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Speaker 1: it at the time they initially got married. And the

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Speaker 1: answer is sure, why not?

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm glad that's where you were going with this.

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Speaker 2: I thought this was a whole. I'll sponsor your wedding

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Speaker 2: with an indecent proposal, and next thing you know, Robert

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Speaker 2: Redford runs off with your wife for half a million

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Speaker 2: dollars or was it a million? It was a million,

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Speaker 2: It was a million. She's worth more than half a million.

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Speaker 2: She's worth more than that. Don't be ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: No, uh, you know, Tony Katz is getting married. Brought

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Speaker 1: to you by subway. The catering is taken care of,

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Speaker 1: subway marrying people and flavor. I thought you were going

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Speaker 1: to say, Mary Fresh, Oh that would have been better.

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Speaker 1: Damn it. Oh yeah, I could see it. I could

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Speaker 1: see it. And honestly, the tuxedo with like a patch

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Speaker 1: like you you're ansk are.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to thank the Texico team for putting this

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Speaker 2: wedding together. Every name off like five sponsors in the

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Speaker 2: wedding video, right, and you do.

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Speaker 1: Pit stops and your groom's been change your shoes and

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Speaker 1: get you a drink. Oh, I love this whole idea.

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Speaker 2: You know what's unfortunate about this is well, I love

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Speaker 2: the idea. You know, you you walk up, you walk

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Speaker 2: down the aisle, and your tuxedo has a Nike swoosh

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Speaker 2: on it.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: The only people where you could see this getting done

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Speaker 2: are the people who could afford to throw the wedding

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Speaker 2: to begin with. Like I'm pretty sure Taylor Swift and

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey could have their their their wedding sponsored by someone.

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Speaker 1: Oh, but in their case, so many things are going

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Speaker 1: to be donated because they want to say we provided that.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's gonna happen for sure, for sure. Now you're

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Speaker 1: asking the question is does it a brand? See any

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Speaker 1: value in this whatsoever? And the answers I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: Well, one thing I know is is people ask all

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Speaker 2: the time, what's it like to go to a wedding

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Speaker 2: for someone as rich as Taylor Swift? Give you one example.

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Speaker 2: At the ceremony afterwards the reception, they'll have two cakes.

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Speaker 1: What did you not have the two cakes?

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Speaker 2: It's a norm John nor McDonald joke. Is it Norm MacDonald?

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Speaker 2: Gone too soon?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Totally gone too soon? Yeah, you had, you had

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Speaker 1: the two cakes.

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Speaker 2: You had the one cake that you cut into to

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Speaker 2: do the whole bride and groom? No, what do you

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about the bride and groom cutting

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Speaker 2: the cake? And then one of the Wisenheimer's in the

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Speaker 2: couple decides to shove the cake and the other person's

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Speaker 2: face media.

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Speaker 1: Divorce, shove it in, shove cake in my face, just kidding,

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Speaker 1: And I walk and I walk, gone gone. It's not cute,

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Speaker 1: it's not funny. You're a jerk of a person. End

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Speaker 1: of discussion.

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Speaker 2: But what if Pepperig Farms sponsored the cake smash.

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Speaker 1: Wedding cake brought to you by intoins? Well, wait if

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Speaker 1: you're doing it for the sponsor. You're like, well, it's

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Speaker 1: how we're paying for the wedding.

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Speaker 2: Smash away if you make the announcement after the fact

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Speaker 2: that they paid for it. I didn't want to, but

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Speaker 2: I like Pepperidge Farms.

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Speaker 1: So in your scenario, this has to be a secret

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Speaker 1: kept from the audience.

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Speaker 2: Yes, until after the fact when people are disgusted by

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Speaker 2: and making better.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're disgusted by it. I don't

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Speaker 1: I have no idea if they are disgusted by it

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Speaker 1: or not.

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Speaker 2: I feel like people are taking side bets at that point.

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Speaker 2: Do we give this five years?

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Speaker 1: Do they make it? Oh, that they're doing but they're

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01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: doing that anyway. That's true. You've never been at a

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Speaker 1: wedding because I said I haven't been doing a ton

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01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 1: been to a wedding and turned to your girlfriend of

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01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,959
Speaker 1: your space. So everybody to be like six.

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Speaker 2: Months, yeah, because that person and I'm not pointing out

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Speaker 2: what sender that person's crazy. This is not gonna last.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has done that. Do you think that the people

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Speaker 1: who attended your wedding to the Lovely Missus Malloy, do

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Speaker 1: you think that they were saying, yeah, this isn't gonna last. Probably. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I I will bet you any amount of money that

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Speaker 1: got said at my wedding. I will bet you any

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Speaker 1: amount of money that got said at my wedding. Well

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Speaker 1: part for me, for me is because missus mulloy' is

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Speaker 1: my third wife. Oh yeah, well that's a that's a thing.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't know that though. Oh, shouldn't have said that

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01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 2: in the microphone. Don't worry, she doesn't listen to that.

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Speaker 1: That's true. She's working on her fourth husband. She's got notes.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I no cake stuffing, by the way

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Speaker 2: at our Oh, absolutely not. I just find that it's

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Speaker 2: so And the other thing too, is it's so played out.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: What do you follow that with YMCA? You know there

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Speaker 2: are certain things just like do you really have to

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01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 2: do that?

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01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 1: Well, I think you're it's just okay if you play

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Speaker 1: YMCA your wedding.

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Speaker 2: But do you play it right after the cake smash?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Immediately, yes, immediately. I don't know. I'm not a

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Speaker 1: wedding TJ. Well, by the way, we will DJ your

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Speaker 1: wedding and after the cake smash we will play YMC. A.

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Speaker 2: Well, you need the construction helmet anyway, got it?

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Speaker 1: Don't ask why. I also have the Indian feathers. Judge

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Speaker 1: just fun. We are drinking the two XO. This is

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Speaker 1: the Oak series American Oak forty six percent alcohol by volume,

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Speaker 1: ninety two proof better. On the Cube, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: go back in real quick because it's all gone good

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Speaker 1: for you, going back in one more time. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: On the Cuba, it's a nice bourbon Cuba. It's a

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Speaker 1: nice Bourbon. Forty nine ninety nine is the Bottle and

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Speaker 1: Smoking the Gatekeeper from Alec and Bradley. This was the

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Speaker 1: sixth by of fifty two the Toro. It has turned

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Speaker 1: into a lot of spice at the first Nice Nice

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Speaker 1: cigar at twelve dollars and seventy cents, a stick outstanding.

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