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Speaker 1: totally totally dig that dude. But this I have heard

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Speaker 2: Tee, drink smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz, And that right there is America's favorite

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Speaker 1: amateur drinker, Fingers molloy. This is the caratoba from Oz

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Speaker 1: Family Cigars.

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Speaker 2: It is a robusto coming in in a very.

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Speaker 1: Very healthy five by fifty two, which means it's five

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Speaker 1: inches long. Ta always makes Fingers mooy laugh. And the

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Speaker 1: ring gage is the fifty two. That's the diameter of

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Speaker 1: the cigar, or how thick it is around tea again

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Speaker 1: with the laughter. So a sixty four ring gauge would

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Speaker 1: be a full one inch around. This is a box press,

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Speaker 1: rapper Nicaraguin in The binder of the filler is Niicaraguan

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Speaker 1: and Dominican right here. This came out the summer of

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Speaker 1: Seeing it at your local tobacconist in your favorite humor or,

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Speaker 1: that makes perfect sense to me. It could have taken

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful with that copper and black on the band

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Speaker 1: rapper as well. Fingers moy, you have started smoking this

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Speaker 1: the cara toba, the oz caratoba rubusto.

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Speaker 2: What say you as you've just looked this up?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just lit this up three minutes ago, and

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Speaker 3: so we'll just have to see how it goes as

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Speaker 2: Give me that list again, white pepper and what else

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Speaker 3: Nuttiness and some wood? Hold on, No, he's going in

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Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen. He's doing what we like.

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Speaker 1: To call I think that there is so I'm with

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Speaker 1: Could describe this is if you've ever had cashews and

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Speaker 1: I love that as I think about cigars. That is

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Speaker 2: I think that there's something very very good in that.

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Speaker 1: Now you can say it's cash or it's almond, but

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Speaker 1: really it's almost like, how can a flavor evoke a texture?

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Speaker 1: That creates a warmth, which is almost like saying you're

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Speaker 2: Is that right? Is that right? That is great?

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Speaker 1: This is the caractoba from Oz Family Cigars. Now. Oz

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is is regular.

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Speaker 1: Right. So Oz did the Bosphorus, a cigar we reviewed

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Speaker 1: The question, fingers went away, is this in your humidor

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Speaker 1: You need some time here. We need to get into

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Speaker 1: We'll get into all that, but you take the cigar

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Speaker 1: All that affecting your palate, the cold affecting your palate.

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Speaker 1: It can also affect your humidor. I have an electronic humidor.

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Speaker 1: everything in there was all right. I'm finding that things

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Speaker 1: a weird I still don't have it all together. I

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Speaker 2: Weather changes, I'm I'm I am not.

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Speaker 2: But get your notebooks out. What do you eat today,

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Speaker 1: The weather? And then what are the flavors you're getting

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Speaker 1: six months from now, you do it again, go back

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Speaker 1: and check your notes. See what stuck with you, right,

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Speaker 2: I am not a believer.

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Speaker 1: In sixty eight to seventy two, after much practice, I'm

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Speaker 1: boveda or or what hygrometer you have. It's based on

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Speaker 1: And I'm starting to think that maybe I have found something.

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Speaker 2: We should get into this.

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Speaker 1: Every humidor is different and no one knows what is right.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into that next. So I do want to get.

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Speaker 1: seetroing smoke. I'm Tony Katz that right there, America's favorite

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Speaker 1: right that it's imperative that people know that your results

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Speaker 1: Results vary, but I don't know why I went after zetbound.

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Speaker 2: Same thing is true of any of them, the ozempic.

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Speaker 1: Or the or the or the the Jumanji, the Munjaro,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the other one Robotussin. That's well, well, Goby,

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Speaker 3: that's it. Oh, I always get this right there, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I own stock in any of these things. Guys,

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Speaker 3: maybe there's a fund somewhere.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to do some subliminal advertising, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not calling you fat. My point is the results vary

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Speaker 3: My problem is from to try to keep my humidity

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Speaker 1: A VO, But I have an electric qumutor. Mine is

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Speaker 1: your cigar bourbon foodie extravaganza. I'm Tony Katz. That is

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Speaker 1: America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers Maloy will get into the

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Speaker 3: For news of the week, well Tony foxweather dot COM's reporting.

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Speaker 3: While millions of Americans dig out from the monster winter

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Speaker 1: Hold on, there was a winter storm across most of

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Speaker 1: Huh, I don't. I don't leave the studio anymore. So

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Speaker 1: We have eggs in the morning, and we have snacks

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Speaker 3: Well I'm not saying it. Of course, as a trained meteorologist, Tony,

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Speaker 3: Yes, but Fox, the Fox Forecast Center is saying that

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Speaker 3: big winter storm to develop this weekend, maybe a nor'easter, Tony,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'll clear your driveway. I said, no, I've got it

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Speaker 3: if you were to visit, you would need to bring

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Speaker 3: a hard hat.

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Speaker 1: So basically, you're you're building out a whole apothecary down there.

437
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Speaker 2: Yes. Absolutely.

438
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Speaker 3: But I went to start the snow blower and it

439
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 3: was running like a champ. And then I shifted it

440
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Speaker 3: in the gear and apparently there was a manufacturer's defect

441
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Speaker 3: in the snowblower. I've only run it maybe twenty hours.

442
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 3: Of plastic piece broke on the housing where you shift gears,

443
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: and now it only stays in reverse, so I couldn't

444
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Speaker 3: use it.

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Speaker 1: So you shoveled for four hours. Yes, and now there's

446
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Speaker 1: a person of all we all feel for you. You

447
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: actually have to do some manual labor. Blah blah blah

448
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: blah blah. The question is what is this new storm

449
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: that threatens all of us in our ability to smoke

450
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Speaker 1: the cigar outside?

451
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 3: What is it? Yes, snow with potential snow. And you end,

452
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 3: you said, because people are listening eat Ring Smoke Nation

453
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,239
Speaker 3: right now. If they're in the north, we East, they

454
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Speaker 3: can stick their heads out the window and maybe blizzard

455
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: like conditions.

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Speaker 1: Oh so this is only going to affect like New Jersey,

457
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Speaker 1: New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, those people.

458
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Speaker 3: It's that's where the worst of it is right now.

459
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 3: And you know, as people know we, you know we

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Speaker 3: because of our schedules, we're actually recording this earlier in

461
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Speaker 3: the week. It the forecast may have changed thirty times

462
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Speaker 3: between now and then, and it may actually be seventy

463
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Speaker 3: five in Boston.

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Speaker 1: But it's not gonna hit us in the in the Midwest,

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna hit us in the South. It's not

466
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Speaker 1: gonna hit us in parts of the West. It's only

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Speaker 1: gonna hit New York.

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Speaker 3: This sounds like the worst of it is going to

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Speaker 3: impact the Northeast. Okay, I don't care the bitter cold, Tony,

470
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Speaker 3: the bone chilling cold temperatures, those are going to continue

471
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Speaker 3: throughout the week and into the weekend.

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Speaker 1: That's uh, it's what they get for trading Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 2: So they get so they deserve.

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Speaker 3: This would have been first one yelling for Sam Donald

475
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Speaker 3: to be traded.

476
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: I have been on the Sam Donald train since he

477
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: got to the NFL some two to eight years ago,

478
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: and I'm here to say the Sam Donald is the

479
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 1: future of quarterbacks, your New England Patriots against your Seattle

480
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: Seahawks for a world championship in the National Football League,

481
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Speaker 1: because I don't think you can say the other Bowl

482
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Speaker 1: thing you gotta called the big Game, figures game, big Game.

483
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, call it the game that it's called. But

484
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 3: you're just gonna get sued.

485
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Speaker 2: I don't want that.

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Speaker 1: I mean it would be good press, because it's good press.

487
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: I am in listen if the storms don't say, if

488
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Speaker 1: the storm's not gonna hit us, I'm just not thinking

489
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Speaker 1: about it. I'm moving on. Wow, I'm not myopic Tony.

490
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Speaker 3: Yeah, let me take a moment to express my dismay

491
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 3: you have five seconds with your attitude when when really

492
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: I care about all of each drinks smoke Nation. Not

493
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 3: just eat drink smoke Nation in Central Indiana.

494
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: So not just eat drink smoke Nation in Central Indiana.

495
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Speaker 1: You care about.

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00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 3: That's what That's what you seem to only care about

497
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 3: is because you are in Central Indiana. All you care

498
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 3: about is what is going to hit Central Indiana in

499
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: the way of a major storm. I, on the other hand,

500
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 3: have empathy for all of each drink smoke Nation. And

501
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 3: by the way, our listeners all around the globe.

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Speaker 1: Did I say, I asked was it going to impact

503
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: the Midwest? Did I ask was it going to impact

504
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: the South? You see, I know whom I care about,

505
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: and I do care about the people who love this

506
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: show in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Rhode Island

507
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: for a month, not as much, but everybody else, Yes,

508
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: And that the level of concern that media has when

509
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: a storm's gonna hit New York versus when a storm

510
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: is gonna hit anywhere else. I can't allow my self

511
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: to let them gin me up into some kind of caring.

512
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 1: When they start caring about what's happening in Saint Louis,

513
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: then I'll really start caring about what happens with them.

514
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that you just said a minute and

515
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 3: a half ago. I don't care. It doesn't impact me

516
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 3: at all. That's what you said.

517
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: Yes and me is the whole nation, and we are.

518
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: The diaspora is spread out well and deep. Anyway, how

519
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 1: did you get out of the storm? Well?

520
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 3: Did you dig out?

521
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: Well? I have an adult son and I have a wife,

522
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: and they took care of the vast majority of it.

523
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 3: Did you sit in the house sipping a hot totty?

524
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: Oh no, I was out there ey shoveled. It's just

525
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 1: I swear to you. I wish I'll get into it

526
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: with you another time. The arm can't do it anymore.

527
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: A snowblower is a must in my life. This has

528
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: to happen. I can't.

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00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you one model you should not buy.

530
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 3: I'll just let you know.

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Speaker 1: Off the air, one point three billion dollars worth of

532
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: debt and forced to pay it immediately. My godfingers. What

533
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: happened with you at the casino?

534
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: Listen?

535
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: Some people say you don't hit on twenty.

536
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: I say hit, it's eat Drake smoke. I'm Tony Katz.

537
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker and terrible

538
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: gambler Fingers maloy. This this story is a knockout because

539
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: there's a company out there called Fat Brands, Fat Brands,

540
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: Jesus Fat Brands, and Twin Hospitality. I have filed chapter eleven,

541
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: a one point three billion dollar debt load. Holy cow,

542
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: the restaurants in their portfolio. So it starts with fat Burger.

543
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: You ever been to a fat Burger?

544
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: I've been to a fat Burger in Las Vegas.

545
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: Oh?

546
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah?

547
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: I know that fat Burger tends to be a West

548
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: Coast chain, does it not. I haven't seen too many

549
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: uh fat Burgers east of the Mississippi.

550
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: No, I don't.

551
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: I've never been to a fat Burger. I've seen the sign.

552
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: Never been to a.

553
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: Flack You lived in California for like twenty seven years?

554
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: First of all six years. Secondly, never to a Fatburger? Also,

555
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: never been to a fued Wreckers? What?

556
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: I've never been to a flood Wreckers?

557
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 3: Oh?

558
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: Fun? Until like three years ago, I had never been

559
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: to a red lobster. My god, you never had a

560
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: cheddar Bay biscuit until three years ago. And you know

561
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: what I said, it's a lovely biscuit. It's a lovely biscuit.

562
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: So Fat Burger is there is in this group, and

563
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: so is Johnny Rockets. Now I've been to a Johnny Rockets.

564
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: Now you're like, wait a second, exactly how far does

565
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: this go? Uh? It has in the portfolio Fat Burger,

566
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: Johnny Rockets, round Table Pizza, which I'm not as familiar with,

567
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: for Zoli's, which I am very familiar with, and Marble

568
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: Slab Creamery, which went up against Coldstone Creamery.

569
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: Marble Slab, Coldstone.

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00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: Ah, they were like the hat Fields and the McCoy's.

571
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: Yes, yes they were.

572
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: This is huge, absolutely huge. Now you're saying that in

573
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Speaker 1: addition to this, they own some other names Fingers, Flouri. Yeah,

574
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: and some of them I don't think are real. I

575
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: think just threw that in there to make them sound

576
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Speaker 1: themselves some bigger than they are. What is it that

577
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: you think they are lying about as names?

578
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: There is no way on God's green earth there is

579
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: a restaurant that went out of business or has financial

580
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 3: difficulty that's called Hot Dog on a stick.

581
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Speaker 1: What. First of all, you've never been to hot Dog

582
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: on a stick with a lemonade and everything else? You're

583
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: making that up? Oh they wear the hats. Well a second,

584
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: they seem like a hot dog on a stick. And yeah,

585
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: yeah they wear the they wear the whole uniform thing

586
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: and and and everything else.

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00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: Do they have flair? Oh yeah, they wear flair.

588
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: Oh they got nothing but flair.

589
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: The whole uniform is why I'm looking for images and

590
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: hot talk stick. Yeah, yeah, here, let me I I'll

591
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: post it on the videos and people can see it. Yeah,

592
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: there is. It's the yellow stripe, the red stripe, the

593
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: white stripe, the blue stripe, everything.

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00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: Eh, are you making You're making the whole thing off.

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00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: I will send you a dang. I can't believe I

596
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: have to do this. Sorry, guys, I have no time

597
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: to talk to you fingers.

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00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: Well, while you do that, let me go over some

599
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: of the other things on the list of First of all,

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard.

601
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: Check your phone. Check your phone.

602
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: Right there will see the uniform for hot Dog on

603
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: a stick.

604
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: It's the picture of Sidney Sweeney.

605
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: That's not a picture of Sidney Sweeney.

606
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry you were looking yeah, wow, look at that?

607
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: What does that look like?

608
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: Although if you had Sidney Sweeney and a hot dog

609
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: and a stick uniform, that would combine the fantasies of

610
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: about seventeen billion.

611
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: Men in America.

612
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: This this looks like Canadian Shriners. This hat? Am I wrong?

613
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: All right?

614
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: So so hot dog a stick is on by them?

615
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: Who else?

616
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: When is the last time?

617
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: Listen?

618
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: Growing up? Growing up, you were an East Coaster, so

619
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: I'm sure was sizzler was big? Oh yeah, the sizzler

620
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: in the Midwest. Ponderosa is that right?

621
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: Was huge?

622
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: Get the ribbi from Ponderosa, I'm told. And a baked potato,

623
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 3: I'm told when when I was when Ponderosa's were all

624
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: around me, when it was raining Ponorosa in the Midwest,

625
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: I was like eight, and I at the time, I

626
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: wasn't thinking, man, I could sure go for a rippy

627
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: right now.

628
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: You know the secret to a good baked potato when

629
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: you get in a restaurant that it comes in the foil.

630
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: That's true, That's how you know it's fresh. And then

631
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: there's beenansa steakhouse. Do you remember Bannanzas steakhouse has no idea.

632
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: So some of this stuff. It's like, how does just

633
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: by the name pretzel maker, how does pretzel Maker go

634
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: out of business? I have a hunch they have good pretzels.

635
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: They also own Smoky Bones and Twin Peaks, that's what.

636
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: Which is a Hooter's knockoff? And I've never been to

637
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: a Twin Peaks and I think I've been doing Hooters

638
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: twice in my life.

639
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: Oh boy.

640
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: And I'm still sad that the local Hooters here went

641
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: out of business because I could, and I've said this

642
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: on several occasions on the show, just give me a

643
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: bowl of their breading. I don't even need the chicken.

644
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: Did Hooters go out of business here? Yeah, I don't know.

645
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 3: The location on the north side of Indianapolis closed and

646
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 3: I wept yes.

647
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: So now Twin Peaks might go out of business. Hooters

648
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: went out of business. I think we should open a

649
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: restaurant with this same kind of vein. You know, you

650
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: know why it's called Twin Peaks, right, I don't have

651
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: to if I'm saying it's a Hooter's knock up, I

652
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: don't explain why it's called Twin Peaks, do I?

653
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: I don't think so. But I've got a good name

654
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: for it.

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00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: I think it's self explained. Wait, wait, what's the name

656
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: of your restaurant?

657
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: Hoot Peaks?

658
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: Nice?

659
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't think you're get in trouble right as opposed

660
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: to Peak Hooters, which is a very different kind of place.

661
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: I think we should be a little more clandestine with

662
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: our name. It's a it's a Hooter's twin Peaks takeoff,

663
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: and it's just called ha ha.

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Speaker 3: Can we get the Canadian shriner hats?

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00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: That's the uniform, That is the uniform that in later

666
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: hosts and it's called ha.

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00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: Why how we wit three billion dollars worth of debt?

668
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: Sun? Now? Never mind that they're going that it might

669
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: put an end to all these companies, it might, right,

670
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: this was they filed for bankrupt us Bankruptcy Court, Southern

671
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: District of Texas.

672
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: They shared this out.

673
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: They're gonna use chapter eleven to lead Chapter eleven deleverage

674
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: the balance sheets and try and keep things going and growing.

675
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: So they're not gonna go out. They're not gonna just

676
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: fall apart. But the question before us is is this

677
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: poor management? Are these poor brands in a world that

678
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: isn't interested in this kind of stuff anymore? Or is

679
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: this really an economic bell weather about no one feels

680
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: that they can go out even for the basic crap anymore.

681
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: Well, I will say this. You say, is it a

682
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: question of mismanagement? Is it a question of people are

683
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: tired about I don't think it could possibly be mismanagement.

684
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Speaker 3: You look at some of the names of these places,

685
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: and I'm just speculating because I've I've never been there,

686
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: but a place like, uh, there's a place that's part

687
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: of their portfolio called Buffalo Express. If you want your

688
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: buffalo fast, yeah, that's where you would go, right, And

689
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: now there is I don't just don't want it fast,

690
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: I want it more fast, exactly as opposed to part

691
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 3: of their portfolio Buffalo Cafe. What do you want to

692
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: take it easy?

693
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: Right?

694
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: You want a whole buffalo dining experience.

695
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: And that they didn't call it buffalo on the go

696
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: Buffalo go go.

697
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: See that's it.

698
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: We weren't doing their marketing.

699
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: They would only be down one point two billion if

700
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 3: we were in charge.

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00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, by the way, they feel much better

702
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: about themselves. I don't know what to think in some

703
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: of these things. Sometimes the story isn't the story that

704
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: you think it is, right, it's not necessarily a sign

705
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: of a pure economic upheaval. But son of a gun,

706
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: this is a lot of brands, and I think that's

707
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: where the story is that there is. There's either a

708
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: shift in the landscape regarding where people see value, or

709
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: there's a recognition that even these places are now unobtainable.

710
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: The money isn't there.

711
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: They don't.

712
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: People don't feel comfortable spending.

713
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: If they're gonna spend, they're gonna save up a little

714
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: and spend luxury.

715
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: They're not doing this anymore.

716
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: You know what.

717
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: Maybe that goes back to the first point I'm making.

718
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: All it does.

719
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: All I know is that hot dog on a stick?

720
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 3: You can get funnel cake sticks.

721
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: Do you want to go open a hot Dog on

722
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: a stick franchise?

723
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: No?

724
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: I just want to go there one time, fingers hot

725
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: dog on a stick. Let's go roeb trip. You need

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Speaker 1: is old soul bourbon small batch. This is a small batch, right, No,

762
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Speaker 1: this is the high rye. This is the high rye

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Speaker 1: that we have right here, coming in at ninety proof.

764
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: No applause, Oh no, no, Fingers Mulloi does not applaud

765
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: for anything that is not at least one hundred proof.

766
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 1: This is a seventy five percent corn mash bill Fingers Mulloy,

767
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: which would.

768
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 2: Tell us it is sweet.

769
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: But it is high rye at twenty one percent, which

770
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: would tell us it is sweet. No nice spice, lava,

771
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: little kick to it. And four percent on the malted barley.

772
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: This comes from twenty twenty one right here. It's right

773
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: there in the middle of pale and gold, right, maybe

774
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: a little orange, but that's not an amber color on

775
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: this bourbon right here. I've never tried it. I've never

776
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: heard of it until I found it in a store.

777
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Oh what do you have you done

778
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: that nose yet? I'm not well if there is a

779
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 1: high rye here, there's supposed to be a spice here,

780
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: I have no idea where it is.

781
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: That is cake sweet?

782
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

783
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: First thing I got was vanilla right off the back.

784
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: Vanilla cake.

785
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: But and that's the difference, right, not just not a

786
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: vanilla of flavoring vanilla cake, a little vanilla frosting, Like

787
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: it's that kind of sugary. Go wow, yeah, there's some

788
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: sugar cookie.

789
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no spice none, And I'm I'm not really

790
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 3: getting any oak.

791
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: So what is that in the background.

792
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: You are hit by the vanilla first, and you get

793
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: a cake, so it's it's more. As I am into it,

794
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: it's a little more bakery. And you're like, ooh, that's interesting.

795
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: That could that could play, That could be something that

796
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: could do something here. But there's something in the back there,

797
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: there's something playing in the back.

798
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: Okay, this is going to sound strange. Is it a

799
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: faint fruit cocktail?

800
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: If you really want to incept yourself, Yeah, there's something

801
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: else there. You can go. You can go cherry, you

802
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: can go leather. Like I would let you do either

803
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: one and be fine with it. Interesting, but there's something

804
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: else there as this background.

805
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 2: The color's fine right, not too pale.

806
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: I would I would love to see this a little Richard,

807
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: little amber. We don't have an age statement here, so

808
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: we're not sure. Wait a minute, stop it, four year,

809
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: seven months.

810
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: You're just wrong. But enough sniff and fingers MOI are

811
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: you ready for this?

812
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 3: All right? For this all day?

813
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: Fingers Maloy is going to do what is called the

814
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: Kentucky chew, moving the juice around the palate, getting a

815
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: feel for it. I'm a believer in the two SIPs methodology.

816
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: The first sip to set the taste buds, the second

817
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: sip to really get an idea of the flavors. Fingers Maloy,

818
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: you've had yourself a little sippy sip, sip, sip.

819
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: What say you? Always going back in, ladies and gentlemen.

820
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: This is the first here at eight drink smoke, Fingers

821
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: Wi doing two SIPs and yet not finishing off the glass.

822
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: We're using the Kenzy glass right here, so as opposed

823
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: to a Glenn cairn with the foot and bows out

824
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: and comes around. This's a little more stylish, I think,

825
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 1: a little more modern in that it's got the base,

826
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: comes out a little bit, comes back in the point

827
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: of the glass, coming back in. Narrowing is so it

828
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: concentrates more of the nose. You're really getting an idea

829
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: of the flavors. Doesn't waft all over the place. You

830
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: can really get your nose in there. Had an idea

831
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: of the scent. Here's what's something on the nose. Here's

832
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: what's here's what's something on the nose. It's very we'd

833
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: say it's sweet. That it doesn't translate to the palette

834
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: in my mind.

835
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: No at rice spices there there's a nice bit of

836
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 3: sting on the on the tongue of old gentle warmth

837
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 3: on the chest wood right away, wood and rye and

838
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: at the end like a I I always there's a

839
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 3: nice bit of heat mixed with cinnamon. But I don't

840
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 3: want people to go to hot, damn slash fireball, because

841
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: that's not what it is. It is not at all

842
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: what I was expecting from that nose. It's enjoyable, not

843
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 3: that not that the nose wasn't enjoyable, but it's totally

844
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 3: different than what I was expecting.

845
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: Old soul, small batch, high rye bourbon, whiskey, cat Head

846
00:42:58,840 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: Distillery with MG.

847
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: Okay, that's who makes this.

848
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: Right here, I'm.

849
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 3: Going he's going in, ladies and gentlemen, and he's doing

850
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: what we like to call the Memphis munch, the Chattanooga chomp.

851
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 3: Oh your thoughts, Tony kats, huh, you should probably go

852
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: in for seconds.

853
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 2: Settle down, I'll get there.

854
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: She's going for seconds. Would you wait, be a little patient,

855
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: let me move at my own pay. I'm gonna going

856
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: for seconds. There he goes.

857
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 3: He's going in again, ladies and gentlemen, and he's doing

858
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 3: what we like to call the secon gonna swish.

859
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: Okay, in the neat right because we're doing this neat,

860
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: no no cube, no water, just the right amount of spice.

861
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: Wow. Now that is sweeter than I like to go.

862
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: Really Oh god, yeah, oh god, yeah, that that is.

863
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 2: That is sweet.

864
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: That's that's really good. Yeah, that is that is. Everybody

865
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: at the table. I I almost want to say, I

866
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: want to try this in an old fashioned okay, or

867
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: you can can the can the fruit cut some of

868
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: this sweet and then the spice mix in.

869
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 3: For me, I I'm not getting. I'm not getting anything that.

870
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: It's a little sweet, but I can't even put my face.

871
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: It's not like a traditional like vanilla. It's not that

872
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: vanilla cake that you were talking about.

873
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: Oh no, agreed, not the vanilla in the slightest, but

874
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: that that rye, that spice is there.

875
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: There's for me, there's there's oak. Uh, there's a almost

876
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: a pepper, and then at the end that heat makes

877
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 3: with a little bit of cinnamon. I'm going in for

878
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: my fourth. Oh good for you. Not all heroes wear capes.

879
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 3: First of all, there's no heat.

880
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: There's no heat center, chest, no heat throw throat, there's

881
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 1: no heat. The finish there is really rich. The spice

882
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: lays on the middle of the tongue in front to back.

883
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 1: That is magnificently surprising. Uh, there's no oak play here. Wow,

884
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: and that's killing me. There's no oak play. What are

885
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: you talking about? Oh?

886
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you and I are having two We agree on

887
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 3: the nose, uh, and we somewhat agree on the palette

888
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 3: because we both got that rye spice. But you're you're

889
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: going a lot sweeter than I am. I'm getting some

890
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: oak on it and that finish there's a heat with

891
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: with a little bit of cinnamon for.

892
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: Me, Okay, cinnamon, I will give you on right, I'm

893
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: saying the rye, spice and the tongue front to back. Yeah,

894
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: you can say that there's a little bit of cinnamon there.

895
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: I would agree with that.

896
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: But it's really nice. Yes, I will agree with you

897
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 3: that as well.

898
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: Fingers By. Is this in your liquor cabinet for forty

899
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: four dollars and ninety five cents a bottle? Yes? Yeah, No,

900
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yes. Even though it plays sweeter than

901
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: I like, that's really nice. It's not overly sweet. It's

902
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: just sweeter that I may like. It's it's weird that

903
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: it's cut with the with the spice and that touch

904
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: of cinnamon and not for me an oak or something

905
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: or something.

906
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: Else old soul the high rye.

907
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: Oh, we're onto something here, fingers I know we talk

908
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: food here very often, and we do both a lot.

909
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: Of different recipes.

910
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to getting to back to a little

911
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: bit of warmer weather we get back on on the grill.

912
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: I've got an order ready for Jacob over there at

913
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,560
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914
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,360
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915
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: That's America's favorite amateur drinker Fingers from while I find

916
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923
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: recipes very often are focused on what's easy. Right, We

924
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: focus on what's easy. I am still a believer that

925
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: people want to try things. They don't want to be

926
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: overwhelmed by things that in the end and tell me

927
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 1: if I'm right or I'm wrong, we should be sticking

928
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: with things that are fun, valuable to the family, good

929
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: for any occasion, and easy.

930
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: It's doesn't mean cheap, and that's.

931
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: Where I think there's this interesting rub so, but it

932
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: does mean easy because I'm here to tell you after

933
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936
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937
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: Want to just test it out.

938
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: You can't use the promo code for this, but if

939
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: you want to test it out, you'll get a couple

940
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: of rabbis or a couple of strips. You'll get a

941
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: chuck roast, you'll get I think it's short ribs, and

942
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: you'll get.

943
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 2: Five pounds of ground beef.

944
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: You could do a mini share and they'll send you

945
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: just that so you can try it out for yourself.

946
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, the ground beef is stunning. But

947
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: I won't I will not get a choice cut of

948
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: meat again. Really, I'm done. I have made that decision

949
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: that I don't go out to eat that often. We

950
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: do a lot of cooking at home. We're good at it.

951
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: I want the quality cut. I have to have it.

952
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: I taste the difference, I feel the difference, and I

953
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: feel like I can't get done and what I want

954
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: to get done without it.

955
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: And yet there are these really great recipes.

956
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: Out there, especially when we talk about beef, that you

957
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: can use the cheaper cuts, top rounds of bottom rounds.

958
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: These chuck rose things, and you can create excellent stuff

959
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: if you just work it a little bit, a little

960
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,479
Speaker 1: bit of time. It's not extravagant. It's just you gotta

961
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: put time to it. And time is the thing I

962
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: think that matters the value of the cut of meat.

963
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: I think matters depending on what you're doing. But I

964
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: don't think you have to get extravagant.

965
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: And I want to. I want to make sure we're

966
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: still pushing that as a food concept and ideology.

967
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 3: That's fair because I think that's one thing that we

968
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 3: struggle with because you and I both like to do

969
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: the long cooks. Yeah, you know, I love putting a

970
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,479
Speaker 3: brisket on. Hey, it takes sixteen hours. It's well worth

971
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 3: the wait. Now I am fine with a choice brisket.

972
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: That's really yeah, I'll listen.

973
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: Wait.

974
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: I think the vast majority people are gonna agree with you.

975
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: I have had these issues and I'm like, I'm done,

976
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: it's overscrew it.

977
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're right, it needs to be something that

978
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: if we're going to start expanding and doing more things,

979
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: we need to maybe focus more on what's easy and

980
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 3: also affordable this day and age. So absolutely, I'm just waiting.

981
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: I'm so ready for this cold snap to be over

982
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 3: so I could start grilling outside again.

983
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

984
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: One of the things that's happening this summer is through

985
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: a friend, a mutual friend of ours, we have access

986
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: to I think it is a twenty one foot smoker,

987
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: oh wow. And it will get set up right here

988
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 1: behind the Eat Drink Smoke studios and we are going

989
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: to actually do a night of wood where it's risk

990
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: gits and we're gonna do pork butt and a whole

991
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: bunch of things. But not on You use a master

992
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: built right charcoal gravity fed. I use tragger wood pellets

993
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: telling you brilliant, spectacular. But I want to see if

994
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: I can figure it out. I want to see if

995
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: I can really get a difference between hickory and an

996
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: apple wood. I want to see how I can manage

997
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: these things. And I want to test myself.

998
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: In that regard.

999
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 3: You said, hickory or applewood, apple wood, don't sleep on pine.

1000
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: I might, And I'll take any suggestion you've got.

1001
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: If you have one, let us know at Eat drinksmokeshow

1002
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: dot com. But I.

1003
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: Time I'm in for fancy.

1004
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: I am not. And it's not that I oppose it.

1005
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: It's that I'm I think sometimes I think sometimes we're

1006
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: trying to kid ourselves. It is clear that when you

1007
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: take a look at Michelin Star chefs, and when you

1008
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: take a look at some of these people, there's a

1009
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: real understanding about how flavors pair, and how acids pair

1010
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: with with fats and with with with sugars, and how

1011
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: you can create something that so fully connects with the palate.

1012
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: And I think there's a value to that.

1013
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: But I am so I feel like we so have

1014
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: not scratched the surface on there are these basic things

1015
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 1: that you can do.

1016
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 2: For your family, and again low cost.

1017
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,479
Speaker 1: Right, even though I'm talking about prime, the difference between

1018
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 1: a prime brisket and a choice brisket is a dollar

1019
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: a pound.

1020
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 2: You know, A lot of times I want to dig

1021
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 2: in more on that.

1022
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: What is it that? What are these basic things that

1023
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: people can be doing that will save them insane amounts

1024
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: of money because they're not going out to eat far

1025
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: better than anything they're going to get out there? That yes,

1026
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: you can, you can actually do these things, but some

1027
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: of them is just I want to test myself. I

1028
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: want to see if I can do a really a

1029
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: wood fed brisket and really creating that charcoal and getting

1030
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: those flavors.

1031
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 3: And you can almost I hate to say it this

1032
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 3: way because I don't know how accurate it really is,

1033
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 3: but you can almost fool yourself in a way to

1034
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 3: think that what you put together at home when it

1035
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: comes to say a brisket is better than what you

1036
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: can get at a restaurant, because there's that sense of

1037
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 3: accomplishment that you did it yourself.

1038
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think that's fooling yourself.

1039
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: How about we think about it this way here, you

1040
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: are you put the time in, right, you put the

1041
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: time in, and it's a lot of ours, right, and

1042
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: so maybe you don't want to put that time and

1043
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: I can appreciate it. But you end up with the

1044
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: brisket and you let it rest. You gotta let it rest,

1045
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: and then you cut it and you're like, you know what,

1046
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Maybe maybe the place that you go

1047
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: is better. Right, they're professionals after all. Take a look

1048
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: at the cost analysis. Yeah, it cost your time, but

1049
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: you were home anyway, Yeah, and you got to hang out.

1050
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: You got that relaxation. Maybe youd to people, maybe you're

1051
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: talking to the kids, talking to the spouse, whatever it is.

1052
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 2: What is that worth?

1053
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: What is the experience worth? And then your family that's

1054
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: the chime, and oh you should try this, so you

1055
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: should try that. Yeah, they're always giving you suggestions. You

1056
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: don't have to listen to them. Just take the suggestions

1057
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: like that has a value to the whole thing. Does

1058
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: have a real cooking at home with the family man.

1059
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: You have no idea how far that.

1060
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 3: Goes, especially if you embrace it like you do if

1061
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: you get into the cigar lifestyle, if you look at

1062
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: it as a relaxing experience, you're unwinding. Hey, you know what,

1063
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 3: the family's asleep. It's one o'clock in the morning, but

1064
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 3: I'm sitting next to the smoker and I just pulled

1065
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: out a churchill because I'm planning on being here for

1066
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 3: a little while, and it's quiet outside, and you're just

1067
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 3: there by yourself, tending the smoker, having a cigar, just

1068
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 3: relaxing and anticipating what you're going to be eating fifteen

1069
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: hours later.

1070
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:46,479
Speaker 2: I think that's good.

1071
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 1: And by the way, if none of that sounds appealing

1072
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: to you, you should find a friend who wants to

1073
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: do all that and then.

1074
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 2: When they're done, go try it and be like, you know,

1075
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 2: what you should do.

1076
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: You should add this, or you should have that. You

1077
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: should be that friend and then leave. It's like, basically,

1078
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: you should be like a grandparent of brisket. You show up,

1079
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: you talk about the brisket, you try, you say how

1080
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: wonderful it is, and then you leave. You don't even

1081
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: have to clean up it.

1082
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 3: But bring a cigar.

1083
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: Oh god, don't be a savage host. Gifts are very important.

1084
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: Always bring a host gift. Someone invites you to the house,

1085
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: you bring them something like.

1086
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 3: A hot dog on a stick.

1087
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 2: Don't if there is one uniform too, eat, drink, smoke.

1088
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: It is your cigar bourbon, foody extravaganza. I'm Tony Katz.

1089
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: That is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers molloy and glad.

1090
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: Hopefully everybody survived well the crazy insane snows and cold

1091
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: and everything else that's been going on, and it was

1092
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: just just terrible. And Fingers didn't have a snowblower, and

1093
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't need a snowblower because I put the kids

1094
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: to work and that was good for them. We'll talk

1095
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: bourbon and cigar in a second, but as time, Fingers

1096
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: molloy for News of the week.

1097
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 3: Well, February first was a big day if you travel,

1098
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 3: Tony and you don't have a real ID, because the

1099
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,959
Speaker 3: travelers do not, Is that the day? Yes?

1100
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: Oh, I got check? I got check? Where's my where

1101
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 1: do I keep all my my important important ID gear?

1102
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 2: Okay? So I've got my idea in front of me.

1103
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: Now how do I know if this is indeed the

1104
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: right ID, the real ID?

1105
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: The real ID has a I'm a little star I

1106
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: believe on it, and maybe an eagle flying across it.

1107
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 3: Okay in hologram forum.

1108
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that. Yes, then, okay, I I have I

1109
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: don't have the eagle flying across it. I made that up, Okay,

1110
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: but I do. I do have a star, a white

1111
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: star in a black circle.

1112
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 3: I believe that lets everyone know they have that, that

1113
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 3: they have a real ID. But if you don't have

1114
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 3: a real ID and you want to get on a

1115
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 3: US domestic flight, you will have to pay forty five

1116
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 3: dollars to the TSA. It's a new fee, Tony if

1117
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 3: you don't have your real ID.

1118
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: So I hate everyone everywhere all the time.

1119
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 2: I just.

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00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 3: They have been talking about this real ID thing now

1121
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 3: for what a decade. It feels like and They've kept

1122
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 3: pushing back this deadline over and over again, kept kicking

1123
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 3: the can down the road, and now it's finally here.

1124
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 3: So I would be surprised at this point. I would

1125
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 3: love to know how many people don't have a real ID,

1126
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 3: because if you go in to get your driver's license renewed,

1127
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 3: if you have over the past, I don't know, at

1128
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 3: least six years, they're going to transfer you to a

1129
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 3: real ID.

1130
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: I went to real IDs dot Com and I said,

1131
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: you said real ID, and they're like, no problem, no problem.

1132
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 2: But why is it forty five dollars?

1133
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: Like what special thing has to happen that they came

1134
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: up with a price of forty five dollars.

1135
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: Well, they are rolling out confirm id, a process to

1136
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 3: streamline the identification check and fee payment for those without

1137
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 3: the real ID. Travelers without a real ID can put

1138
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 3: input their information online and pay the fees. So this

1139
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 3: is all about a transaction fee, uh tolerance fee, A

1140
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 3: fee fee?

1141
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: Right, this is garbage. You want me to have a

1142
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 2: real ID, Give me a real ID. That's that's all

1143
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: there is.

1144
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: But what's the I still have yet to figure out

1145
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: how it is truly different than the ID I may

1146
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: have had prior without the little white star in the

1147
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: black circle.

1148
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 3: Well, I could say, answering a question earlier. The real ID, uh,

1149
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 3: you know, the act was passed in two thousand and five,

1150
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 3: February first, is really the next phase of real ID

1151
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 3: compliance enforcement. About ninety four percent of the population has

1152
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 3: a real ID. Okay, so six percent of the population

1153
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 3: they do not. I apparently the difference. I don't know

1154
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 3: if they have some sort of enhanced background check when

1155
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 3: you're going to your local BMV Secretary of State, depending

1156
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 3: on what state you're in to get your driver's license

1157
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 3: to qualify for a real ID. I don't know the process.

1158
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 3: All I know is I mean the fact that this

1159
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 3: act passed in two thousand and five and it's twenty

1160
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 3: twenty six and they're finally saying, Okay, this is the

1161
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 3: drop dead date. You've got to have it or you

1162
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 3: need to pay this fee. You have to wonder too,

1163
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 3: if you know this. Look at it's a ninety four

1164
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 3: percent of the population or passengers that transit through a

1165
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: TSA checkpoint have a real ID. You have to wonder

1166
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 3: if this is an elevated to Maybe it shouldn't cost

1167
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 3: all that much, but it's to nudge the other six

1168
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 3: percent of the population to go get a real ID.

1169
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: First, I think all that is gross. I think all

1170
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: of it is just horrifying. But I want to know

1171
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: if it goes into effect February first, Right, February first

1172
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: one goes into effect, Yes, will I feel safer everywhere

1173
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: I am? Will I will there be a noticeable, nay,

1174
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: a palpable difference when I walk down the street. You know,

1175
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: I was concerned about all the rioting and looting and

1176
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: violence going on. But now, with real ID to do,

1177
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm walking down the street. Ain't nothing gonna happen, but

1178
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: let's just bounce off me like I'm Superman to do now?

1179
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: Is that? Is that exactly how it's gonna be?

1180
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: No?

1181
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 3: I believe so. I believe the TSA is saying, with

1182
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 3: this real ID, it'll make it feel like when they

1183
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 3: hold you in their arms, you feel safe.

1184
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: Am I going to feel like I am snuggled into

1185
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: the warm bosom of sew?

1186
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 3: Now I feel like you're starting to catch on, Tony,

1187
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 3: They're starting to get on board.

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01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: Well, I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure that a

1189
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: warm bosom is worth forty five dollars that's I'm not

1190
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: an expert, but I'm pretty sure that that is that

1191
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: that is accurate mathing right there.

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01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 3: You need a real ID, or at least an ID

1193
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 3: to get yourself a U haul Tony UH and U

1194
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 3: haul does an annual report of where people are taking

1195
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 3: rental trucks moving out of the state to a different state,

1196
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 3: and they came up with their top ten rankings of

1197
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 3: states where people are moving.

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01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: Correct, where they're moving to or where they're moving out of.

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01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 3: Well, they also have a list of where they're moving

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01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 3: out of. What would you like to hear first, the

1201
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 3: moving too or the moving out of? Oh, the moving

1202
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 3: out of I want to know the places to avoid

1203
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 3: people are leaving California.

1204
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: That's all one on the list. That's all taxes, right,

1205
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: that's all taxes and fees and and and ridiculousness. And

1206
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: I can't rebuild my home in the Palisades for obscene reasons.

1207
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: It's it's just it's too expensive to live there, that's correct.

1208
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 3: And if you were going to list a second state, uh,

1209
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 3: you know, except for the Palisades part of it, Illinois

1210
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 3: would be next on that list. You're gonna come up with, Oh,

1211
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 3: fees taxes the whole nine yards.

1212
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: He is Illinois. Second on that list.

1213
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 3: Yes, oh wow, number three on the list, Tony, Uh,

1214
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 3: your beloved New Jersey is on the list.

1215
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: I mean I would go back and have some pizza,

1216
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: but after that, I'm good.

1217
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 3: Can you Can you finally pump your own gas in

1218
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 3: New Jersey and you still have to have somebody else

1219
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 3: pump it for you?

1220
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't, I don't know.

1221
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: It's been a long time since I've been listen. Jersey

1222
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: was a was a nice place to grow up. I

1223
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: had good friends in Jersey. I don't miss it now.

1224
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: I can also say that except for the view, not

1225
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: even the weather, the view, I don't miss California, but

1226
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: the idea of being able to drive through the mountains

1227
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: to get to the beach and that topography change. I

1228
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: love that more than anything. Just random drive, no matter

1229
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: how broke I was, my wife and I were, We

1230
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: were really broke at the time, But just to be

1231
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: able to do those drives on Mulhollands and Box Canyon

1232
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: and everything.

1233
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: Else, just it was freeing.

1234
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: It really was a special I'm glad I had the

1235
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: opportunity for six years.

1236
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 2: But the everyday living.

1237
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: I'll miss it in the slightest. I don't miss Jersey

1238
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: in the slightest. I don't know. Maybe it's just me,

1239
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: maybe just dead inside.

1240
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 3: I've only been to East Rothiford. Oh so oh my,

1241
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 3: that was my Jersey experience other than I think at

1242
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 3: one point I didn't get off the train, but I

1243
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 3: went through Trenton.

1244
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: Well you should have gotten off the train.

1245
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 3: New York fourth on the list. Okay, Massachusetts rounds off

1246
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 3: the top five.

1247
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's abusive, and it's punitive and and I

1248
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: mean that's not even me being political. That's just the

1249
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: numbers speak for themselves. So where are they moving to?

1250
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: What are the top five?

1251
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: Top five?

1252
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 3: Quickly? Texas number one, Florida number two, North Carolina three,

1253
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,959
Speaker 3: Tennessee four, and South Carolina number five on the list.

1254
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: So they want to be a little bit warm, They

1255
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: want to be in the low country, and they want

1256
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: to eat some brisket. They want some crawfish, and they

1257
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: want some brisket. But do they eat crawfish in South Carolina?

1258
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 3: I have no idea. Isn't that a Louisiana thing?

1259
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: It is? Maybe they eat some in South Carolina. Someone

1260
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: in South Carolina tell me what's a good South Carolina delicacy.

1261
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 1: I want to try it. I want to make one

1262
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: fingers with mooy. Would you say that if you have

1263
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: a high class personality, I would say it, and so

1264
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: would eat drink smoke Nation They really really what it's

1265
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: e drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That's America's favorite amateur drinker.

1266
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: Fingers boy smoking from the good people at oz Oz

1267
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: Family Cigars. This is the Caratoba. This is the Robusto

1268
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 1: five by fifty two. We're in the second third of

1269
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: this cigar right here, and I gotta tell you it's

1270
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: a nice, nice, nice stick. Nicaraguin throughout, Dominican in the fill.

1271
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say nicaragon throughout, I'm sorry, Ecuadorian Timatra and

1272
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: the wrapper Nicaraguin and the binder Nicaraguin and Dominican in

1273
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: the filler.

1274
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, not nicaraguent throughout.

1275
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: Twelve dollars for the five x fifty two box press.

1276
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm in the second third here, and it's a nice stick.

1277
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: It's a nice, easy smoking kind of filling cigar. There's

1278
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: not an overwhelming spice at all, really, there is. You know,

1279
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: we talk about that nutty creaminess and things a lot

1280
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: like that. There is that that seed, which I think

1281
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: it's a little more subdued. It's a nice, nice stick

1282
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: fingers and it's been smoking for me very very well.

1283
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: We've just've been so busy we I've been talking about it.

1284
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 3: I've had to touch it up a couple of times,

1285
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 3: but that's about it. Yeah, that nuttiness is there, there's

1286
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 3: a little bit of spice.

1287
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: For me.

1288
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 3: It has stayed pretty consistent. Nothing is really built up

1289
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 3: over time, nothing's really dissipated. Just a really nice smoking experience.

1290
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 3: And at twelve dollars and fifty cents a stick, twelve dollars, oh,

1291
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 3: twelve dollars a stick. Well, I was in at twelve fifty.

1292
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 3: I'm in at twelve dollars. Yeah, yeah, I am too.

1293
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: Now I'm curious is in that final third whether we

1294
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: really start getting some strength in this. But this play

1295
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: is at a medium. This is a nice solid in

1296
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: the humid or stick. You you could do this daily,

1297
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: you could. It has that kind of a profile to it.

1298
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 2: And Old Soul.

1299
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: We're drinking the bourbon here from Old Soul coming in

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01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: at ninety proof.

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01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 2: This is out of Cathead distillery.

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01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: So that's Mississippi, and it's done with MGP, which is

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01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: Indiana and a mash bill of seventy five twenty percent

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01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: right four percent malted barley ninety proof. I forgot to

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01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: get a cube, like we were talking so much and

1306
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: getting into it. Do you want some water now? I'm good.

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01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna keep drinking. Ah, look at you.

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01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 2: It's it's really nice.

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01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: It is really a I mean, it's that knows is

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01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: that vanilla and that vanilla cake is really where I

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01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: put it at that?

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01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 2: And that background wasn't fruit?

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01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: Was it leather?

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01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 2: Good question.

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01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: I still don't have an answer, but that that flavor

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01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: is that that little bit of spice that hits on

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01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: the tongue, that little bit cinnamon that you talked about.

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01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: That that that's sweet but.

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01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 2: Not candied and not overwhelming.

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01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: I wish I got oak out of it, which you are,

1321
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: which is blowing my mind.

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01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 2: Really really a dollars a bottle.

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01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: Oh, I could see this in many liquor cabinets, old soul.

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01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 2: This is the high rye bourbon that we're doing here.

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01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 3: Now. I have plenty of water here too, so I

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01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 3: put some in mind. So I'll give her a dance.

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01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 1: So the water or a cube, right, a water brings

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01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: down proof, the only thing that brings down proof, and

1329
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: it will change the complexion of the juice, sometimes increasing things.

1330
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes it'll kind of mute certain flavors, and so you

1331
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 1: want to try it in all the way is to

1332
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: see which way is the bourbon is best represented to you.

1333
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 1: Because you can find a bourbon that maybe doesn't work

1334
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: for your neat but works on the cube, works for

1335
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: your neat, doesn't work on the cube, and then you

1336
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: know and you go forward.

1337
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 2: You got to try these things and test these things.

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01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 3: So it muted the oak a little bit, brought out

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01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 3: more of the spice. That cinnamon is still there on

1340
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 3: the finish, not as much of that heat on the finish.

1341
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 3: But for the first time, I'm getting some of that

1342
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 3: vanilla sweetness on the palette, which I did not get

1343
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 3: before when it was just neat.

1344
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 2: Interesting because I got it on the nose.

1345
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was for me it was more wood

1346
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 3: that that spice, and that that really the heat on

1347
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 3: the finish with that little that can. Did you think

1348
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 3: that cinnamon was intense? No? No, but it's listen, it's

1349
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 3: it is for me different for you than it was

1350
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 3: for you. It was so much radically different on the

1351
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 3: palette than it was on the nose for me because

1352
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 3: I didn't get I mean, on the nose you get that, well,

1353
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 3: you called vanilla cake. I just got vanilla. But I'm

1354
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 3: not going to argue with you. That vanilla is there, right,

1355
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 3: I wasn't getting that on the pallet. Put some a

1356
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 3: little bit of cool water in it. That's where it

1357
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 3: started to bring out the vanilla for me.

1358
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, the cigar actually does parallell with it.

1359
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: Yeah right, The cigar is not overwhelming in a way

1360
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: that cedar certainly certainly works with it, that nutty creaminess

1361
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:18,799
Speaker 1: there in the cigar.

1362
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 2: This is a nice pairing.

1363
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: All Nothing that's gonna knock you out, nothing that's gonna

1364
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,600
Speaker 1: knock you over, nothing that's gonna really hit levels of

1365
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: your tickle spot if you're somebody who likes a real

1366
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: big spice or a real big oak or but you

1367
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: can appreciate and at price points that work, no hot diggity,

1368
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Speaker 1: this is well put together. Speaking of price points that work,

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Speaker 1: the Indiana Farm directly to your freezer, everything cut to

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Speaker 1: quarter cow, cut your specifications, everything vacuum packed and shipped

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty dollars off your order of a

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Speaker 1: quarter cow, a half cow, or the whole thing. Just

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Speaker 1: clean out the freezer all right, two freezers, all right,

1382
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Speaker 1: maybe three, and then you're set. And then also check

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Speaker 1: out some of their mini shares and other things they

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Speaker 1: have to offer. Great Valentine's Day gift if you want

1385
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Speaker 1: to get something for dad. Hell grill, be able to

1386
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Speaker 1: grow a couple of steaks, make some burgers, do a

1387
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Speaker 1: whole thing, Boom done. And you're like Valentine's Gifts your dad.

1388
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, cause he's gonna make it for mom,

1389
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Speaker 1: fifty dollars off your order of a quarter half or

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Speaker 1: a full share a full cow.

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Speaker 2: Make that happen defiancepef dot com.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to sidetrack the conversation, but quickly, you

1395
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 3: know how inflation has affected everything. Apparently it is not

1396
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 3: affected chest freezers. I cannot get over how cheap chest

1397
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 3: freezers are. If you want to get a small chest freezer,

1398
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 3: if you're gonna get some divides beef, it's crazy. You

1399
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 3: can get from like one hundred and seventy dollars now

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01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty dollars that would definitely fit you

1401
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 3: have one, No, I don't, but I'm gonna get one

1402
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 3: once the basement's all done.

1403
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 2: Oh the renovations continue.

1404
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 3: Yes, framing is completed. They're starting on the plumbing. They're

1405
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 3: drilling into the foundation. It's a project.

1406
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: But I asked about being classy and your high class personality.

1407
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: So over there at veg outmag dot com where fingers

1408
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 1: Will only gets all his classy tips, what shows that

1409
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: you're classy? Here are the tips that they have. Number one,

1410
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: you treat everyone with equal respect.

1411
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 3: Uh yeah.

1412
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: Number two just moving right off that you take responsibility

1413
01:12:58,800 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 1: for your mistakes.

1414
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 2: I just thought that was being a decent human being.

1415
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was classy. Oh.

1416
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 3: You know a lot of people really hate taking responsibility

1417
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 3: for their own actions, or you know, taking responsibility for

1418
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 3: the mistakes is always someone else's fault. Those aren't classy people, Tony.

1419
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: You listen more than you speak. That's number three. Everyone

1420
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 1: loves a good listener. I'm listening.

1421
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 2: See what you did there, I'm still listening.

1422
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 3: Ah, it makes for good radio.

1423
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:27,440
Speaker 1: I'm listening.

1424
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 3: A Fraser Crane.

1425
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's right, I'm listening Seattle. Hello, Seattle, I'm listening.

1426
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 2: Congratulations on the Super Bowl.

1427
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 3: You kids under the age of fifty, Google, Fraser Crane.

1428
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 3: You stay calm under pressure, don't we all? No, No,

1429
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 3: And you.

1430
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,719
Speaker 1: Celebrate other success. I think that's a big one. Somebody

1431
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: else doing well. It does not mean you did poorly.

1432
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 3: Thank you completely. I can't stand. I'm not a big

1433
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 3: fan of jealous people. Now, you know, behind people's backs,

1434
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 3: if you're not happy for their success because they aren't

1435
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 3: good people and they don't show class, that's fine. But

1436
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 3: your friends you should always celebrate your friend's success.

1437
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 1: And people don't they have an issue with it, somehow

1438
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 1: has to be about them. It's not just say congratulations.

1439
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:27,719
Speaker 1: Don't be weird. Don't be weird, it's all. Life is simple.

1440
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 1: Don't be weird. That is it. Find it all you

1441
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Speaker 1: drink smoke show dot com and we will catch you

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Speaker 1: next time.