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Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. No rhyme, no reason, no explanation. Why

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Speaker 1: in the world, Susie Wiles, the White House Chief of Staff,

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Speaker 1: would do an interview, an eleven day interview with Vanity Fair.

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Speaker 1: There is no way to make it make sense. But

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Speaker 1: I am thrilled to see other people having my conversation,

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Speaker 1: which is a conversation about focus. Tony Katz, Tony kats today.

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Speaker 1: Good to be here, good to be with You find

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Speaker 1: everything over at Tony Katz dot com. It is, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: It's about focus and the people who are all maga

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Speaker 1: all the time twenty four to seven Trump, I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm not mad at them. I've never been mad at them.

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Speaker 1: It's that when you're unwilling to say, yep, that was

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Speaker 1: a mistake, well, that creates serious issues, massive problems. Let

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Speaker 1: me give you an example. You guys know was talking

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Speaker 1: about the post from from from Donald Trump about about

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Speaker 1: Rob Runger, and you guys know that I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not down with that. I'm not down

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Speaker 1: with with that post at all. I thought it was ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was unnecessary. I thought it was stupid,

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Speaker 1: and what I thought was is that it absolutely took

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Speaker 1: away from the focus that was necessary. I was on

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Speaker 1: Newsmax last night there with Carl Higbee. It's been very

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Speaker 1: nice to me, and I greatly appreciate it. And here's

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Speaker 1: how he introed the segment.

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Speaker 2: Like, look, let's just refresh everybody's memory here. We call

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Speaker 2: me krass whatever you want. But I kind of agree

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Speaker 2: with him, he said, A very sad thing happened last

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Speaker 2: night in Hollywood. Rob Reiner, a torture and struggling but

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Speaker 2: once very talented movie director and comedy star, has passed away.

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Speaker 2: He was murdered together with his wife, Michelle Quote, reportedly

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Speaker 2: due to the anger he caused others through his massive,

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Speaker 2: unyielding and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known

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Speaker 2: as Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes referred to as TDS. He

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Speaker 2: was known to have driven driven people crazy by his

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Speaker 2: raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump, with his obvious

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Speaker 2: paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump administration surpassed all

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Speaker 2: goals and expectations of greatness. May Rob and Michelle rest

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Speaker 2: in peace, like he said it with all due respect, okay,

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Speaker 2: and like he never said he deserved to die or

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Speaker 2: any of the stuff that the liberal media is blowing

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Speaker 2: the mind. Rob Reiner, like, I have no love loss

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Speaker 2: for the guy. I didn't like him when he was alive.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say anything nice about him in

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Speaker 2: his death.

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Speaker 1: I think that's fine. I think it's fine to say

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Speaker 1: like we have said, has politics repugnant, The abusiveness, the lies,

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Speaker 1: the aggressiveness, all of it, all of it. What the

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Speaker 1: post from Trump was crazed. The guy is murdered by

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Speaker 1: his son, who has a long history of drug abuse,

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Speaker 1: a long history in and out of rehabit, a long

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Speaker 1: history of being a homeless clearly mentally ill. It's not

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Speaker 1: about you he led his son to. This is a

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Speaker 1: nuts thing to say, an absolutely nutty thing to say.

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Speaker 1: So so Carl has has me on and case Smith

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Speaker 1: on and Kay is agreeing with him, and then I

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Speaker 1: come on, I'm like, yeah, no, die, whatever the context is,

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Speaker 1: but I just yeah, it just kind of breaks my

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Speaker 1: heart in so many different ways that it will have

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Speaker 1: to happen. I love you both, but you're both wrong

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Speaker 1: on this one. This isn't about whether or not you

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Speaker 1: liked Rob Bryner. I didn't like his politics. I didn't

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Speaker 1: think he was a good person. I thought that he lied.

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Speaker 1: This is about whether or not President Trump makes it

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Speaker 1: more difficult than everybody else who defends him on all

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Speaker 1: the other things. Don't make it more difficult on representatives

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Speaker 1: and reelection in the midterms are tough enough. Don't make

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Speaker 1: it tough enough on senators. Stop making it difficult, mister president.

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Speaker 1: It's as simple as that, I need to win and

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Speaker 1: I need nothing in my way, and if that means

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Speaker 1: a personality needs to get subdued for half a second

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Speaker 1: on social media so we can have a clearer path

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Speaker 1: to discussing an economic message, what's coming down the pike,

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Speaker 1: what's been happening with the border. Saying no defense at all,

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Speaker 1: then I'm all in, don't get in my way of

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Speaker 1: the victory. You do make a good point.

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Speaker 2: However, for people like me, I'm like, well, at least

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Speaker 1: So you do make a good point, though, and I

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Speaker 1: This is who he is. I know what I voted for.

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Speaker 1: which brings us now back to Susie Wiles. Why in the.

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Speaker 3: World, Why in the world is she doing this interview

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Speaker 3: with Vanity Fair On what planet did you think you'd

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Speaker 1: Trust these people? There's no planet, there's no way. I

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Speaker 1: well that's nuts, that's insane. How could you think for

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Speaker 1: Susuan Willas isn't wrong. I do have an alcoholics personality.

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Speaker 1: story of President Trump. President Trump does not drink. He

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Speaker 1: in this conversation talking to The New York Post saying that,

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Speaker 1: you know, he said I have a very good chance

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Speaker 1: I've said that about many times about myself. I do.

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Speaker 1: It's a very possessive personality that he has, you know,

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Speaker 1: it talks about being an expert on big personalities. That

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Speaker 1: is something to know about yourself. Interestingly, for years, I

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Speaker 1: Now it's interesting, is having having built this career and

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Speaker 1: a good time. I'm done, and it is pretty interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's so so was it addictive personality or was it

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Speaker 1: people who absolutely know, you know what, It's better if

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Speaker 1: dig that. And I think that's good on President Trump

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Speaker 1: to know himself in that way. But having to go

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Speaker 1: if Susie Wiles didn't give the left any ammunition at all?

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Speaker 1: Why do it? What's the point of it all? That's

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Speaker 1: there is is a lack of focus. And I want focus.

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Speaker 1: I demand focus. I want to win the mid terms.

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Speaker 1: I want to be able to explain to America why

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Speaker 1: Obamacare has to go, and I want to be able

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Speaker 1: and I want to discuss why it's important we get

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Speaker 1: the things that I want to discuss with clarity and

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Speaker 1: It was close. It was close to Howard Dean's style.

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Speaker 1: Screaming drives me nuts, and it does. And I get

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Speaker 1: that people get angry with me. I'm willing to stand

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Speaker 1: up to them without questions, say yeah, but you're wrong

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Speaker 1: Trump couldn't say anything. I'm not saying Trump has to

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Speaker 1: from being impeached. I can't believe this has to be discussed.

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Speaker 1: You do know how to win, you know how to

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Speaker 1: get there. Good God, don't lose focus, secure border, peace deals,

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Speaker 1: lower taxes coming with the one big beautiful bill, investments coming.

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Speaker 1: You see that focus. It's good, it's very fair. You

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Speaker 1: with Vanity fair because it can't help you. And the

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Speaker 1: fact they didn't know that criminally insane, crazy crazy. Don't

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Speaker 1: put out stupid tweets about Rob Reiner that Trump derangement syndrome.

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Speaker 1: Let the people around him to kill him. It's gross,

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Speaker 1: it's stupid, that's all. Don't do it. So with that,

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Speaker 1: stories don't last long. We've got bigger fish to fry,

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Speaker 1: like who killed Ella Cook? That's the student of Brown

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Speaker 1: University who has killed seemingly targeted. And of course, what

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be about Venezuela's that's gonna be about

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Speaker 1: the economy. What's that all about? But anything that takes

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Speaker 1: away from focus is a problem. Man, it drives me crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz today