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Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to a new episode of the Frames per Second Podcast.

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Speaker 2: My name is Kenneth be and Shortman. In the show,

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Speaker 2: I have Ra and Mike, and there is no Spike.

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Speaker 2: Spike is not here today, but we got you guys

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Speaker 2: covered as we are here to discuss Marvel's new series

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Speaker 2: wonder Man, which is starring I cannot say this.

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Speaker 1: Guy, yah yah, just how it's spelled.

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Speaker 2: Yahya abdulah Ma team the second.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he has to be. He better be.

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Speaker 2: He was Haitchen in the show That'll Be Messed Up,

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Speaker 2: Ben Kingsley and a few others, a few others as

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Speaker 2: well in this one. But you know they were your guys.

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Speaker 2: They were your guys. So we are here to discuss

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Speaker 2: that wonder Man is part of Faces for Marvel and

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Speaker 2: it's part of the Marvel Spotlight banner, which they kept

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Speaker 2: showing that and I haven't looked into exactly what that is.

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Speaker 3: I have a gas, but well we'll get there, I guess.

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Speaker 1: Nah, we probably won't.

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Speaker 4: I think because of what this show was, Marvel Spotlight

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Speaker 4: is probably going to be like shows that aren't like

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Speaker 4: connected to like you know, the overall MCU or something.

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Speaker 4: Maybe because like this wasn't like a comic book hero show.

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Speaker 4: So maybe Marvel Spotlight is going to be shows like

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Speaker 4: this where it's just stuff taking place in the Marvel world,

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Speaker 4: but that just aren't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's why I assumed me either. Maybe I'll look it up. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about it.

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Speaker 5: Attaching it to the the Iron Man.

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Speaker 1: World though, Yeah, but you know tomorrow everything's connected, right,

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Speaker 1: so you know. But uh, it's a mini series.

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Speaker 2: It's created by Dustin Daniel and Andrew Guest, and it's

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Speaker 2: based on the character uh Rod. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you know this or may you may have seen it,

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Speaker 2: but wonder Man is actually white in the comics, so yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's he's.

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Speaker 3: Black hair, woke, woke wonder Man.

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Speaker 2: And and it was something else that I saw that

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Speaker 2: I thought was interesting.

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Speaker 1: Uh. I think originally they wanted to create that.

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Speaker 2: It was the television series center on Trevor Slattery, who's

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Speaker 2: been Kingsley character, and you know, Marble's been going all

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Speaker 2: these other changes, so they kind of sheld it and

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Speaker 2: came back to it, and here we are with wonder Man. Rod,

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Speaker 2: what did you think about wonder Man? I thought it

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Speaker 2: was surprisingly decent. Yeah, it looked really whack based on

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Speaker 2: the stuff I was seeing, but I feel like they

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Speaker 5: I think given enough time. And honestly, I always liked

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Speaker 5: the Mandarin. I hated that he was an actor in

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Speaker 5: that movie because I thought the way he presented Mandarin

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Speaker 5: with that voice and stuff, I was like, oh, man,

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Speaker 5: I really liked this character. So it was a little

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Speaker 5: disappointed when he ended up being this goofy actor dude.

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Speaker 5: But I like the way they spun it spun spun

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Speaker 5: it here, and I don't know, I like how they

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Speaker 5: to be wonder Man with the backstory or whatever. So no,

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Speaker 5: I thought I thought they did a decent job bringing

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Speaker 5: this together. I was like, oh, they all really made

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Speaker 5: tried to make this work, and it worked to a

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Speaker 5: certain extent for me, he said, trying to make it work. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: because I did not see how it was gonna make

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Speaker 5: this shit work. But no, no, I think they did

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Speaker 5: a decent enough job.

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Speaker 1: What about you, Mike, I hate it.

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Speaker 4: This was Oh, this was a fucking chore. When I

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Speaker 4: got through the first episode, I was like, Okay, are

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Speaker 4: you serious? And then when they got through the second episode,

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Speaker 4: I was like, are you fucking serious? Did y'all not

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Speaker 4: learn anything from Shield? And I guess not, But apparently

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Speaker 4: it's doing well, so good for Marvel, and I really

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Speaker 4: like yah yah, I like Ben Kingsley. This is not

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Speaker 4: what I was expecting, some fucking sitcom kind of drama.

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Speaker 3: Shit. No, No, I didn't like this. I'm sorry you

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Speaker 4: You feel like it was like an Absolutely, there were

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Speaker 4: way way too much comic relief.

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Speaker 3: It didn't feel serious. There were no stakes.

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Speaker 4: So the thing about it is clearly Marvel was trying

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Speaker 4: to make a show that was not a Marvel show. Okay,

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Speaker 4: instead of making this all about his superpowers and all

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Speaker 4: regular ass TV show. I just never gave a fuck

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Speaker 4: about this guy. So no, I did not like this.

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Speaker 4: I was except one episode, which I'm sure we'll get to.

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Speaker 4: But the one episode I thought was brilliant, let's.

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Speaker 3: Talk about the same one. I'm PreCure we are. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure we are. The rest of this this was not

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Speaker 3: This is not for me.

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Speaker 2: It took all the way to the end the final

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Speaker 2: was like, damn, that was actually pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I did enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: The first three to four Mike, I was with you

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Speaker 2: because I was like, I don't understand what's going on

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Speaker 2: the tone and stuff. And I think right around five

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what is this? What are we doing?

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Speaker 2: There's powers, there's not powers, there's danger control, there's like

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Speaker 1: Like what is happening? And then I started.

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Speaker 3: Thinking like, well, Wonder Vision and all.

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Speaker 1: This other stuff.

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Speaker 2: I was like, well, there's there's shows. So I'm like,

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Speaker 2: where's the powers. Where's somebody throwing some shit? Always see

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, what is going on?

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Speaker 2: But Loki and all these other shows, it's really about

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Speaker 2: like their characters and them telling these sort of stories

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Speaker 3: Trying to hide them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it reminded me of a like X Men, Like

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Speaker 5: they're trying to live amongst just regular as folks, like

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Speaker 3: So I I feel.

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Speaker 5: The influence of the X Men stuff in this person,

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Speaker 5: like you know, you know, you're trying to hide them

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Speaker 5: because you know, people out to get you and don't

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Speaker 5: I think that's the same episode Mike talking about, like

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Speaker 3: He just want to be normal. He just want to

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Speaker 5: Obviously he's very into movies and and everything. So I

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Speaker 5: was like, oh shit, they they thought this through a

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Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting this.

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Speaker 1: They managed working out.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was like you, I thought it was gonna be whack.

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Speaker 2: I had no interest in seeing it. I was like,

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Speaker 2: what is this shit? This shit is fucking stupid. I

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Speaker 2: did look up Marvel Spotlight. It actually was a come

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Speaker 2: a book anthology that they that ran from seventy one

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Speaker 3: This felt bad as Echo.

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Speaker 2: So you're right, it's focusing on grounded personal stories rather

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Speaker 2: than interconnected MCU plot lines. So that's what they're doing,

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Speaker 2: and that helps explain this one a little bit further

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Speaker 3: But but yeah, the.

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Speaker 2: Series opens and it's it's centered around uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, like you were saying, rah insecurity failures, ambitions

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Speaker 2: of it. You know, we have Simon Williams who was

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Speaker 2: it really spends a lot of time on him and

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Speaker 2: eventually Trevor Slattery who was the Mandarin and in Iron

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Speaker 2: Simon Williams a good actor.

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Speaker 1: In the show. Yeah, in the in.

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Speaker 2: The context of the show, was the character Simon Williams

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Speaker 4: Probably He's just an annoying asshole. He thought he knew everything.

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Speaker 4: So him getting kicked off the show, I was like,

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Speaker 3: What are you doing an idiot, But.

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Speaker 5: Even you, I feel like you can get this type

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Speaker 5: in your head about like you said, you O c D.

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Speaker 5: So you be in your head about a lot of ship.

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Speaker 5: I am too to a certain degree. Like I overthink

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Speaker 3: Maybe you know I'm thinking, you know, nah, a lot.

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Speaker 3: He was doing a lot actor whatever.

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Speaker 5: He was a respected actor though, because you on the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he got fired, but he was respected, so they

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Speaker 2: And like, all right, dude, you get I didn't get

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Speaker 2: You just there for a day, bro, And you're talking

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Speaker 3: Up the book what if I had? You're about to die, right,

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Speaker 3: you're dead, You're gone now.

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Speaker 1: It was annoying.

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Speaker 5: Don't don't get me wrong, it was it was annoying. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's interest because there's a like that makes him Does

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Speaker 5: that make him a bad actor?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was asking.

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Speaker 2: We didn't get a chance to see that in episode

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Speaker 2: one because he got you know, but as we eventually

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Speaker 2: move on, I guess, you know, seeing aspects of him acting,

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Speaker 2: you know, in later episodes.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I was just think he was a good actor because

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Speaker 4: when he went in there for that audition he did well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in the later episode, Yeah, but I think they

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Speaker 1: Guys at all? Or yeah, yeah, it didn't. It didn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, y'ah. No, he wanted to be wonder Man. No,

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Speaker 4: But but Ben Kingsley told him about the job. He

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Speaker 5: He said he was going to play as Barnabe, but

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Speaker 2: So that's how they that's how we got them all

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Speaker 2: Trevor was going for Barnaby. I think it turned out

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Speaker 5: Weren't specific I assume that they both were going for

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Speaker 2: make that wouldn't make sense though. Yeah, where you guys

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Speaker 1: What guy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe Panteolani, Pantole Pantole, Lionel. He was the guy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got them, but he said he portrayed them.

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Speaker 1: He was the trader and he was the one flying

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the guy that the little skinny guy.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah he was. He was the one

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Speaker 3: That's him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the one. He's still tripper jobs. He still

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Speaker 3: I'll get my wife semester up. Yes, yeah, seeing him

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Speaker 5: He was at the house. He was at the house

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Speaker 3: Like a billionaire. He was like a millionaire had all.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, because because when he when he opened the door,

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Speaker 2: So he's kind of going over and over and you know,

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Speaker 1: He was like, you know, I gotta understand you, right, Yeah, be.

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Speaker 5: Real shit too, Like people don't mean looking at this

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Speaker 5: It's cool to see.

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Speaker 3: Her here Black and Sexy TV.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it came out the same time. It's like that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so no, I did like this. I did like

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Speaker 5: Felt realistic as far as like, you know how family dynamics.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, family dynamics. Yeah, yeah, I like this. I like

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Speaker 1: Jerk was Eric?

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Speaker 3: His brother, he's a piece of ship man trigger.

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Speaker 4: Well nah, we're cool now. So no, this is a

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Speaker 4: he was. He was fucking.

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Speaker 3: Annoying, annoying. It's like, man, leave him alone.

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Speaker 4: But I did also see his point, like, your mom

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Speaker 4: from mo to go buy her own gift. That's some

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Speaker 4: trifling that ship for an adult. You know, you do

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Speaker 4: that for your children. But like, come on, bro, you're

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Speaker 4: well done.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, his brother was fucking annoying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of tension and stuff.

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Speaker 4: give me something here, guys.

443
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 2: But yeah, his brother being an asshole, you know the

444
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 2: whole time, you know, it laned to her. I felt

445
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 2: so bad for the mama Rod when he broke the island.

446
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 3: She doesn't make him mad. Don't make him mad.

447
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they and they knew because they didn't even react,

448
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 2: they knew what was going on.

449
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 5: That was interesting. Yeah, that's what I'm saying that it

450
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 5: was like a family secret. And I was like, oh

451
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 5: ship they know or whatever. So yeah, I thought that

452
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 5: was very interesting.

453
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: I just thought the mom was going to be like devastated.

454
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 2: She's so happy about that island.

455
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 3: And he just destroyed the kitchen in general.

456
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Eric showed no remorse, like you know, your

457
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 2: brother is can be a loose cannon, and these are

458
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: the sort of triggers and you just kept going and

459
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: going and going. Yeah, and that's what happened. I was like,

460
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 2: Who're gonna pay for that ship? You know, not me, Rod.

461
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: Were you surprised that after all of that, because I

462
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: thought his other saying was funny when he's like walking

463
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: around asking people for information and he was asking one of.

464
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 3: The neighbor I think that is that what you're talking about.

465
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: When she was like, oh, yeah, what do you know

466
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 2: about Simon And she was like, well, you know, I've

467
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: never really liked him that much that one.

468
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: Sh okay.

469
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: She was like, yeah, I always like Airic blah blah blah.

470
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: He was like, hein't ask you for your preference?

471
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 5: Was funny customer And she was like right, yeah, she

472
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 5: said motherfuckers up.

473
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

474
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I thought that that was funny.

475
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's asking all these questions, and it was

476
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: something about him breaking that island and maybe seeing his

477
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: brother act in that way, and also at the end

478
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: him reacting in such a violent way destroying that alan

479
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 2: that meant so much to the mom and then getting

480
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 2: in the car and be like yo, because they're waiting

481
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: on like the callback he sent the tape and stuff

482
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 2: like that, not the call back, but they sent the tape,

483
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: so they're waiting to hear back from Janelle.

484
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 3: I think that was the name Oh, she was funny.

485
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: I liked her.

486
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: Yes, I liked her, and I ain't like her at all.

487
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: She was not a good actor. No, I thought she

488
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: had a really cool comedic element.

489
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 5: Damn.

490
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: I'm glad she got a job, but real, you.

491
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 4: Know, I'm glad her ex neighbor got her a job.

492
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 3: That's how it's out. Oh I liked her, Yeah, I

493
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: liked her.

494
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: Nah, but they're waiting on her because he sent the

495
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: tape in we talked about the audition earlier, which he did.

496
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 2: Ashley was really good, so Trevor was some good advice,

497
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: and he's just you know, kind of dumping on Trevor, like, bro,

498
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 2: this like this all I got. It ain't gonna work.

499
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 2: Maybe Eric is right, et cetera, et cetera. And it

500
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 2: really moved Trevor. Where you where where when Trevor got

501
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: out of the car, did you think he was gonna

502
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: make the call to d C or he was gonna

503
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: destroy the audio recording, destroy the audio record?

504
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: Like I said, they showed the conflict there with him.

505
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 5: I mean he, I mean he was soft soft on

506
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 5: on Simon just because like they showed even Trevor like

507
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 5: him trying to tell people about his acting.

508
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: Career and it's just not being that interested.

509
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 5: But Simon shown his interest and he was, you know,

510
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 5: he was happy to be recognized, you know what I'm saying.

511
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 5: So I think, yeah, I was like, yeah, he gonna

512
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 5: uh that is a good point. Everybody else was like,

513
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 5: oh really, and not for being the man, but he

514
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 5: was the acknowledging for being an actor, just like, Yo,

515
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 5: that's dope, you're a really good actor.

516
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 3: But everybody else was saying, oh, you're the man. So

517
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 3: I thought that was cool.

518
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike, were you were you surprised that he destroyed

519
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: the aud they recording.

520
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 3: Kind of because.

521
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 4: You I mean, I don't think at this point we

522
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 4: knew what they had over him.

523
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 3: I don't think we did, did we.

524
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were saying that you would go back to

525
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 5: jail basically, but I thought it was more than that.

526
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: It felt like it was more than that. But I don't, Yeah,

527
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 2: like you go back to jail.

528
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 5: It's like you either do this, you ever cooperate with us,

529
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 5: or you will go back to jail. Say you got

530
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 5: two options. He's like two number two because I don't want.

531
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: To go to jail.

532
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was it. I mean, that's enough. Ship.

533
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 3: They're talking about prison, that's all why he was locked up. Yeah,

534
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, yeah, I get.

535
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 5: You, crimes. It was for like, like I said, war

536
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 5: crimes and ship.

537
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was war crimes.

538
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll do it. And he broke out of prison too, Yeah, yeah,

539
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 2: because we did. We was in this one when he

540
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: was arrested at Las. It was one of these episodes

541
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: he was arrested. It was just a flashback. Yeah, yeah,

542
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: he was arrested Las and stuff like that. So because

543
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 2: even the girl on the lady was talking to on

544
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: the plane didn't really recognize him like that, So that

545
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: is a I'm not with him.

546
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this was just too much for me

547
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 4: to believe that they just became friends and he cared

548
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: and all that.

549
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 3: So it just it didn't move me.

550
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 5: I was moving by the bond that they were creating. Yeah, personally,

551
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 5: I am slightly with Mike. I was surprised.

552
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: I didn't know if I saw enough from the family

553
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: to make him and from what he was saying to

554
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: make him be sympathetic to what he was going through sympathetic. Yeah,

555
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: But in this episode he mentioned something about this guy

556
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: by the name, but he mentioned door Man. He was like,

557
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: who the fuck is Doorman? And is this the episode

558
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: you guys were talking about?

559
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: This episode is great?

560
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

561
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 4: Great, yeah, this was This was the one where it

562
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 4: was like, all right, this is this is really dope

563
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: and I was hoping it was going to be an

564
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 4: upswing from here, but it gave me a Lanta vibes

565
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 4: the way they told it it did. It did feel

566
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 4: like a weird superhero version of Atlanta. I like, I

567
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 4: liked how it was, you know, black and white, and

568
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 4: the main guy, I don't know who he is, but

569
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 4: I liked him a lot.

570
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, this was a good episode.

571
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

572
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Doormant episode, I think it was good. I

573
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: think it was placed well with episode four. You kind

574
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: of teased it and then we get here it's a

575
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: black guy with powers, so that could be another layer,

576
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: you know, like you were talking about the X Men

577
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: thing that we could point to.

578
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: But I think it was more about.

579
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: The fact that this guy, Joe Gadd, Joe Gadd, who

580
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: I think is a real person, right, I don't know.

581
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: The white guy, yeah, yeah, yeah.

582
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, you mean a real person like actors. Yeah, I

583
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 5: think he was actually Yeah, I'm trying to figure out

584
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 5: what you're trying to say.

585
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: I don't think it was a character in the show.

586
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: I think Joe is an actual person, Yeah, a real person,

587
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: like real life. But yeah, this episode really just it

588
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: kind of we step away from the world and kind

589
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: of gives us context to what he was talking about.

590
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: And you know, so it's just about this guy that

591
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: has the power to just transport people through his body,

592
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: you know, to other places, almost like, uh.

593
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: What's the one from from X Men?

594
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 4: From X Men, I was thinking it was like Cloak,

595
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 4: Kitty Cloak is good.

596
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cloak is good too.

597
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: Cloak is actually closer, but Cloak actually you go to

598
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: a darker dimension. But Cloak is actually good because Cloak

599
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: is black. But but yeah, Kitty Pride is another one.

600
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: But she just phased people.

601
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: Though I don't think you actually go through a dimension

602
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: to go to another spot. But but yeah, he was

603
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: he was a door man and he got these powers

604
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: by touching his goo.

605
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: I don't know why he did that.

606
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. There was some rocks con place.

607
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: And he blows up and become this big like celebrity,

608
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: but one that they make fun of though and not

609
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: take serious, which I thought was interesting as well. And

610
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: he gets these powers and he becomes an alcoholic I

611
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: think Trevor Slattery and he just had a bad day

612
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: on the job, a bad day of work, right, and uh,

613
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: they still don't know where Joe gadd is at.

614
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

615
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, so this this episode worked for you to no,

616
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: no this one, but I'm already feeling the show as

617
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: it is.

618
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 5: But it also gets con text as to why he

619
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 5: is the way he is because you wonder, like, Okay,

620
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 5: why are you trying to hold him? Like why is

621
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 5: this such a bad thing? And why are the damage

622
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 5: control people trying to find you or whatever? That's why

623
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 5: I say it feels like X Men. But like, so yeah,

624
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 5: I would just it just gave more context to Simon's

625
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 5: character and why he's so paranoid and why he just

626
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 5: doesn't want to reveal his power, especially in the in

627
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 5: the realm of being an actor or whatever. Because I

628
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 5: think that's when the Doorman act came into place, like

629
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 5: no superhero can happen, I mean, no actor can.

630
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 3: Have super powers or something like that.

631
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, I felt like it was It was

632
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 5: a good place when they put it right in the

633
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 5: middle of the story.

634
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was good.

635
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: Man, it's good. I wonder if they're gonna use this

636
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: for the X Men or something.

637
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder if this is gonna if this is

638
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: gonna turn into the Mutant Registration Act that we've already

639
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 4: seen in the cartoon and stuff. So I was because

640
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's a mutant. I don't know

641
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: if yah Ya is a mutant. I don't think it

642
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: ever said.

643
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: They referred to him as as an enhanced Yeah.

644
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: But that just could be a name. I don't I

645
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: don't know.

646
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: I don't know, but from what they said, he had

647
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 4: the powers since he was younger, so I assumed he

648
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 4: might be a mutant. Also he already had did he

649
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 4: already have the powers with it before touching the Goog?

650
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: Or Don got his powers from the Goog?

651
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: Simon what Mike is talking about, had his powers when

652
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: he was young, right, sorry when.

653
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: The fire broke out, because well, I.

654
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: Think we saw this later as we moving on, Like

655
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: we saw a little bit more of Simon's childhood and

656
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: he was being bullied and that's how he became fit

657
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: sated on wonder Man because his dad had him play

658
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: hooky and they went to go see this movie.

659
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 5: Damn, he is from the Marvel Commons too, doman Marvel

660
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 5: Commons character often affiliated with Great Lakes Avengers, who possessed

661
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 5: his mutabilities.

662
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 4: He didn't look like he was black, but he was like,

663
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 4: literally just black, if I remember correctly, he was just

664
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 4: like a black figure.

665
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: That's how he looked.

666
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: He looked like yeah, yeah, they looked he looks like that,

667
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 4: but I think in the original comic he looked even goofy.

668
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 3: He looked like almost like Gumby, but he was black.

669
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: He looks familiar, but I don't. Yeah, the other one

670
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: looked closer than the one that may have looked for me.

671
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: But okay, well that's interesting. Yeah, but nice little what

672
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: they call that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool.

673
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

674
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 3: This whole episode was really really cool.

675
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially when Buddy went through him and I knew

676
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 4: something bad was about to happen.

677
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did too. It was like, but I ain't

678
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: know what was gonna mean that though they come up

679
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 5: to the other side. Yeah, oh shit.

680
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 4: I thought he was gonna go through and then he

681
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 4: was going to land in like traffic or something.

682
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 3: You know, But when he just kept throwing up and

683
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 3: then they just couldn't find him again.

684
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow, like, where do you go?

685
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 3: Yeah? So wait, I'm trying to what the episode? Now,

686
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 3: did they arrest Doorman? Is he in jail? Or what

687
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 3: happened to him at the end.

688
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: I don't think they ever really said. I think they

689
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 2: just went to the act being passed. I can't remember

690
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: if they said it or not. You know, we just

691
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 2: learned about because we went back to Simon that after that, Okay,

692
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: what happened?

693
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,520
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but but no, it was. It was definitely good.

704
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed this one by far the best, probably

705
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: the best episode of the series.

706
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: It's crazy on that don't have his as.

707
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, not even a fucking it's not respectful to

708
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 4: yah ya. It's not his fault. Just this episode, yeah,

709
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 4: because we see yeah, yeah, I'm not shooting on.

710
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all I fuck with him.

711
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, he was good.

712
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right, you're right, Rod, Like his showed

713
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: us why Simon is the way he is, Like he

714
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: has the secret now he can't. So it made a

715
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 2: lot of it made a lot of damn sense for

716
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: him being that way. So yeah, five and six, Episodes

717
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: five and six kind of go together. Uh, Simon and Trevor,

718
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 2: they're kind of moving deeper into the audition process. Now

719
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: episode five, that's the one with the kid on the

720
00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: scooter and the bike.

721
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: At the end of this episode. Let me go back

722
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: at the end of.

723
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: Episode three, they get the call back and Simon is

724
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 2: elated and he's happy and I and yep, and then

725
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: they went to episode four and then we're episode five.

726
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: So that's a big bone in the show. I need

727
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: to make sure I spot like that because it seemed

728
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: like it was it was a wrap for Simon. We

729
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: knew he was going to get the call, but he

730
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: didn't know he was going to get a call, so

731
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: so it changed everything. And then in episode five, this

732
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 2: was by far probably the week is well. I don't

733
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: know the first one was a setup, but this one,

734
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: this one was by far in terms of the whole thing.

735
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: I think the weakest.

736
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: To me, this was the one where at the bar

737
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: they're out celebrating and I can't remember if Ben, who's

738
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: been sober for thirteen years or Trevor's been otober for

739
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: thirteen years, is drinking or not, but they kept ordering drinks.

740
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: And then one of the persons.

741
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: That Trevor screwed over came through and needed money for

742
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 2: the drugs they gave him, and we really hear how

743
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: messed up Trevor was because he ordered all kind of

744
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: shit ate ball, a kind of shit ride took him outside,

745
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: and Simon has used his powers to rescue him, saving

746
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: from you know these these guys.

747
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 3: You got a superpower moment, right he said this the word.

748
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: No, this was this was cool, But we're five episodes.

749
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: Again, the only thing we've seen so far.

750
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: Is him just shaking like this and him creating some

751
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 2: kind of weird art on the wall from the explosion.

752
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 5: Now, I was saying, I know, you said you wish

753
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 5: it was more superpowership shown, but I was like, this

754
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 5: is the one episode where actually he actually was using

755
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 5: him because he didn't want to.

756
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

757
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was the only time we got it though,

758
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: which again at this point we know why and it

759
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 2: made sense.

760
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I totally got it by now.

761
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: But no, it was good and there were consequences that

762
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: came from it, and we see why he didn't want

763
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: to do it, because this damn kids the record and

764
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 2: it becomes this old wild goose chase that I honestly

765
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: felt led to nothing.

766
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 5: So they got they sent him, Oh yeah, they called

767
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 5: him or he wanted to be caught.

768
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the drug dealer house.

769
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 5: They're at the club, they go to the drug dealer's

770
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 5: house or the candy dealer.

771
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 3: And then did the damn control shows up? That's what

772
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 3: shows up? Right, No, it was regular cops, I think, No,

773
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 3: I think the regular cops.

774
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it was police. Yeah it

775
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: was police that showed up.

776
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, because they're they're you know, yeah,

777
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: they're yeah exactly, but they're trying to get the bit.

778
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do we what is this for?

779
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 5: Like, I don't you know, I don't know. Yeah, you're right,

780
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 5: what was the point of this one? I'm trying to

781
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 5: remember what was the end goal of this one.

782
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. There you have an overview of it.

783
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm reading it not now.

784
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: It doesn't really say anything meaningful because he's just trying

785
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: to get to Esteban's house and they find out Esteban

786
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: tells Jaden is lying about the whole business that they have,

787
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: and the drug dealers show up and then they run

788
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: out of the house and.

789
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: Then they was trying to get ahold of the footage.

790
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: That was it.

791
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: That's maybe maybe its purpose was to show like the

792
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 2: urgency of not being discovered, you know, and the consequences

793
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: of that.

794
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: But either way, because you like this, can't get out.

795
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: This right, right? But yeah, it was weak. But we

796
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: go to episode six and that's where we.

797
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: You know, they meet up with van Kovac and they

798
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: van Kovac, you know.

799
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: Have them do a couple of different acting exercises.

800
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 3: I like this either it was fine.

801
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: It was fine.

802
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: I think in terms of the whole story, I think

803
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: it's a It's a key part in the story. So

804
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: I think you needed it more than episode five. I

805
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 2: don't feel I felt like episode five and we to

806
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: listen to people that watched it to give me some

807
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: insight into it.

808
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: I'm open to change. In my mind, I felt like

809
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: it didn't really sell a purpose, you know.

810
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: And and but with this one, I think you see

811
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 2: Simon's issues play out in real time because remember the

812
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 2: first one and throughout a couple of other episodes, he

813
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 2: needs to understand these characters in a way that isn't

814
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: really important.

815
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes.

816
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: We saw it in episode one, so he has he's

817
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: asked the improv and we see Trevor Slattery and this

818
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: other guy that killed it, this fool get up here

819
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: and reenact, and.

820
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: He did this whole scene.

821
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: Y'all. I had no idea. And y'all tell me, did

822
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: anybody know this shit was from Pretty Woman?

823
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 5: It's not a familiar. When he was doing it, I

824
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 5: was like, why does this sound for me? But no,

825
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 5: I couldn't fully pinpoint it. But I was just like, man,

826
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 5: he's such a student of the fucking game, Like he

827
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 5: can't even come up with his own shit.

828
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 3: He's just really good at reenacting and he's like drinking,

829
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: Have man of you gott seen Pretty Woman? Yeah?

830
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 4: I've probably seen bits and pieces. I've never watched the

831
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 4: whole thing.

832
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen it one two, Yeah. And when he's

833
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: doing it, it was like throwing the glass down. I'm like, dang, bro,

834
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: you're really destroying this man ship like this.

835
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: But all the time everybody looking like like what are

836
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 3: you doing?

837
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was Trevor's face that it was

838
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 2: like because I had to rewind it, but it was

839
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: Trevor's face.

840
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 1: I thought.

841
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: When I first saw it, I was like, Trevor's like, man,

842
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: you're going too far bro. But then when he said

843
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 2: when von Kobe was like, yeah, you just did a

844
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: scene from Pretty Woman, I'm disappoted, I was.

845
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 5: Like what because he bodied it right on the outside

846
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 5: of that he was bodying.

847
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: He didn't know what. I was like, why are you

848
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: breaking this man's ship? Like this is this is?

849
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 4: What are you doing? It's you being fucking extra again,

850
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 4: goofy ass.

851
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 2: But you know, I think because I was wondering how

852
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: he was going to do because at this point Trevor

853
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: has helped him so much and he's trying to help

854
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: him again, and he's about being who you are, be or.

855
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: Think yourself, et cetera, et cetera.

856
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: And he wasn't doing that again, he was being somebody

857
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 2: completely different. But it's also he's also in a situation

858
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: where he has no control because he has the improv.

859
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 3: He copped the attitude about it. It's like bro attitude

860
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: the fu.

861
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: So, yeah, he got caught off our guard and okay, Mike,

862
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. So when he was like, hey,

863
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: I want another shot, and he got up there and

864
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: he paired him up with the other guy and then he

865
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: pushed that guy through the face.

866
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got me.

867
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: But then when it was just a dream, I was like, man,

868
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 4: I really don't like this.

869
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: That was crazy.

870
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: They get you through? Nah, I did it? Did that?

871
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 3: Ship was crazy. It was just weird.

872
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 4: If there was no blood or anything, like his head

873
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 4: was like made a cake or particles.

874
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, in hindsight, like they got me to I'm not

875
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: gonna lie because when it happened, because he was like

876
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: you just a freak, and he just.

877
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: Kept going off like we know, we know, and he

878
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: punched him. He was like please stop, please stop. I

879
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: was like, oh, Ship, I was like.

880
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: Oh, I were finally getting somewhere.

881
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: I was thinking the same thing because I was like, okay.

882
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 2: What are they gonna do now? How they gonna get

883
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: out of this? What's time I gonna do? How are

884
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: the bro I was going through all this ship in

885
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: my head.

886
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was drinking. Then I was like, there's no

887
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: way this could be fucking real. And it wasn't.

888
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, this was dodoo.

889
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: But you know anyway, Uh, Trevor comes over and you know,

890
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: he's kind of yeah, he walks out side, he's on

891
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: the balcony. He's really disappointing himself. And Trevor, can I

892
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 2: gets more advice or whatever? Okay, Mike, let me ask

893
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: you this. At this point, do you think Trevor is

894
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: being a good mentor to him?

895
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 4: I think Trevor did as much as he could for

896
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 4: what's the wonder man's name again, Simon?

897
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: For Simon.

898
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 4: If we didn't know about him being shady, I would

899
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 4: think he was being a Yeah, I would think he's

900
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 4: definitely being a good mentor.

901
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: You don't feel like at this point he destroyed the

902
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: evidence and then now he's at this point where it

903
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: seems like he doesn't want to betray Simon and that

904
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: he's starting to really believe in Simon. Right, So you

905
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: still because he's shady, You're still not all the way

906
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: there with him.

907
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: Is assuming the mentorship.

908
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 4: Role, I'm not all the way there with him because

909
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 4: it's a show, and I'm just like, well, there has

910
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 4: to be some kind of conflict so he can't have

911
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 4: just become good all the way. But I also, honestly,

912
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 4: I was so bored by the show. I honestly didn't

913
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 4: even really think about it super hard. I was just like, Okay,

914
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 4: all right, we're almost to the end, like two more episodes.

915
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: Two more episodes, We almost done with that. Yeah, Rod.

916
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: At this point, I think I was that I was like,

917
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: you know what, Trevor's really being a good mentor to

918
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: him in spite of all this stuff. So I was

919
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: on board with Trevor. Yeah, Yeah, what about you? Yeah, Sam,

920
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

921
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 5: I liked the the relationship that they were building with

922
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 5: the two, like it was almost like a buddy cop

923
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 5: type of situation, but not a buddy cop situation. And Yeah,

924
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 5: I just liked that they came from these two separate worlds,

925
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 5: but the one thing of acting kind of brought them together.

926
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 5: I like this, I want to see what they do

927
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 5: with this.

928
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

929
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: Seven and eight.

930
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 2: So seven is the Kathy Freeman interview, and again Simon

931
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: is placed in a situation where things are out of

932
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: his control and he has to be somebody he's not

933
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 2: used to being. We saw that in the previous episode.

934
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 2: Now he has to pretend to be somebody that people like.

935
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: And Rod real quick before I get into other stuff.

936
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: Did you recognize the guy that was helping him? Where

937
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 2: were black Guy? Episode seven? Katherin Freeman, he's a guy.

938
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's from He's from He's from a couple of

939
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 5: different places. He's from Insecure, insecure.

940
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 2: Yeh, he was in rap shit. He wasn't rap shit.

941
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: I forgot about rap shit thankfully.

942
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 5: Brother he plays a Yeah, you're the black guy of

943
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 5: the the basically the U the p A.

944
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah it was on the golf car, but yeah it

945
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: was a brother. I know that that boy isn't recognized.

946
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh that's all that's old boy.

947
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: But it was cool.

948
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: But yeah, So now Simon gotta pretend like.

949
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: You know people.

950
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 2: He gotta pretend like he didn't go get his own shit.

951
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: He gotta pretend like you know people birthday. He's completely

952
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: like being somebody he isn't. I thought this was going

953
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: to come back to bite him because Kathy Freeman, from

954
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: what they told us, was really good at seeing through

955
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: the shit.

956
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: But it didn't. It actually ended up backfire. It actually

957
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: ended up.

958
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 2: Getting Trevor Slattery instead, and she was calling him out

959
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: about being arrested at LATS and all the working for

960
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: the government.

961
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: She's asking all of these questions, how did you feel.

962
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 5: About the jump to them being popular after getting the

963
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 5: roles because they didn't show that process. They didn't show like,

964
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 5: wait what because at this point they're known and popular

965
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 5: at this point, like he's wonder man.

966
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: Trevor is I think I really honestly didn't pick up

967
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: on that.

968
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why they wanted to do a

969
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: piece on him or whatever.

970
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: I thought it was just all marketing promo.

971
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 5: No, that that's why he had like they were getting

972
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 5: him certain food and all that, like he was he

973
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 5: was the guy.

974
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 2: I thought that just came with the person working with

975
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 2: this super popular van Kovac director.

976
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: Oh that's what I thought. Popular.

977
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 5: Maybe you know what, maybe maybe maybe that was it

978
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,959
Speaker 5: at the point. Yeah, you know, I think you're right, and.

979
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: It was just going to his head, like you know,

980
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: you know, because he even kind of just started. He

981
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: used to start of movie. Basically, he's a started movie.

982
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: He had a conversation with his with his girlfriend because

983
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: Cathy said, yeah, I talked to your girlfriend. He was

984
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: concerned about his secret. Mike, did you take anything from

985
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: the conversation she had with with I think it's Vivian,

986
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: his girlfriend Vivian.

987
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 4: Where she was like, I've always known secret and stuff

988
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 4: like that. H I've always known your secret. You just

989
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 4: didn't want to tell me. And I was like, at

990
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 4: this moment, I was like, Oh, is this some kind

991
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 4: of metaphor for being gay or something, but that it's not.

992
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 3: It's not.

993
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 4: This whole time, I was just thinking to myself how

994
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 4: boring this show was. I was like, they must be

995
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 4: going somewhere. So when they had this conversation, I thought

996
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 4: this was going to be leading to some big revelation.

997
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: But it was more so just like I knew you

998
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 3: had powers.

999
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah it sounded like it, you know, yeah, I was,

1000
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I don't think it was I think

1001
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 2: you know so it was more about you got powered,

1002
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 2: you just didn't trust to tell.

1003
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 4: Me that, right, Yeah, right, So I mean it could

1004
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 4: be a take on you know, you need people around

1005
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 4: you that you can trust, and he didn't realize he

1006
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 4: could trust her until it was too late, and she

1007
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 4: was gone, yeah, and he was and she picked up

1008
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 4: on the fact that he only hit her up because

1009
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 4: he knew she was being interviewed. She picked up on

1010
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 4: that immediately. So he's kind of coming off like a

1011
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 4: little bit of a douche. Yeah, you know what I mean,

1012
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 4: because it's like he didn't even reach out to her

1013
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 4: to apologize for the fact that he fucked the relationship up.

1014
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 4: Granted she we don't know much about her. She could

1015
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 4: have been trash too, because she was trying to bounce

1016
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 4: while he was at but but yeah, I just thought

1017
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 4: that this conversation was gonna go somewhere tangible instead of

1018
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 4: just kind of putting it out there that like he's

1019
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 4: not being emotionally available.

1020
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1021
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: The only other thing I got is just reaffirmed that

1022
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: Simon only cares about Simon.

1023
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 3: That's right.

1024
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: And she was clear to point that I had called

1025
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: him myself centered dick. Yep, you know, because here she is,

1026
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 2: you know, she has a role on severance And he listened,

1027
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 2: but then he went to this big whole thing about

1028
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: him and it's almost.

1029
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 5: Like he was like, oh damn, yeah, because even when

1030
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 5: he has flashbacks about it, it's only flashbacks about her

1031
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 5: helping him.

1032
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 4: Of course she didn't need to help. Apparently she's just fine.

1033
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 4: She's on fucking Severance. He's on wonder man. Yeah, yeah, cool,

1034
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 4: she actually did pop up in Severance.

1035
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 3: That would actually be kind of funny.

1036
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: I was wondering that she was actually really on there.

1037
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: I don't think the show is kind of being all

1038
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: meta and stuff.

1039
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: But anyway, so, yeah, so we get the big reveal

1040
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: from Trevor Or the admission after Kathy, Trevor admitted that, yeah,

1041
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: he had been playing them all all along.

1042
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: Was Simon right to feel hurt? I know the answer

1043
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: is yes, what you don't think? So?

1044
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 3: I couldn't vibe with this scene at all, man, at

1045
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 3: all I was. I couldn't vibe with him, like, you're

1046
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 3: supposed to be my friend.

1047
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 4: It's like, bro, you met you when he said the

1048
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 4: family ship, well family, she's like reunion.

1049
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 3: He was like my birthday, that little raggedy birthday party.

1050
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 5: No, so you had a white friend that was just

1051
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 5: on your side. You thought this motherfucker was cool with you,

1052
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden you find out he

1053
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 5: was trying to get intailed on you for Cop City.

1054
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 4: No, I guess. I guess it was hard for me

1055
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 4: to take the show seriously because it was just too

1056
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 4: much stuff on here where it was like, okay, that

1057
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 4: just felt goofy and silly.

1058
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 3: So when when.

1059
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 4: Yah Yahoo I think is a great actor. When Yah

1060
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 4: y'all is giving this performance of man, I thought you

1061
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 4: was my friend. I'm hurt.

1062
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 3: I'm just like, bro, this is the wrong show for this.

1063
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1064
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 3: I thought they had a bond by this point.

1065
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: I did too.

1066
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: That's why I asked about the mentorship question earlier, because

1067
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: it's looked like they were really.

1068
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: Developing this friendship.

1069
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: I'm sure.

1070
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I definitely believed it then, Simon, And that's

1071
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: why he was he was hurt.

1072
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 3: He was because he was hurt.

1073
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: And when he was like we was like, man, that's

1074
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: some good acting right there or something. Though he said

1075
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: that's a eli performance.

1076
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 3: I bet your agent that I walked out.

1077
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: Man.

1078
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 5: They had life and death situations where he said his

1079
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 5: life he thought he was genuine, you know, wanted to

1080
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 5: meet his family.

1081
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 3: He saved his life.

1082
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 2: Maybe that was the importers of that whack episode, just

1083
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 2: them being in that situation together to kind of create

1084
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: a closer bond.

1085
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, life, yeah that part. I wasn't even talking

1086
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 3: about that.

1087
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 5: I was talking about the when when he was fighting

1088
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 5: the guys outside and he revealed his power.

1089
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, well yeah yeah, but yeah that's not

1090
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: the same episode. Yeah episode.

1091
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they changed him after that, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, damn.

1092
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 5: Oh that's right, because I was telling you, like, oh,

1093
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 5: that was some action ship but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1094
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 3: I think they was. Yeah, you're right.

1095
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 5: I think they were using all that to show the

1096
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 5: bond and what they both are willing to sacrifice. He

1097
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 5: was like, I was willing to sacrifice. We didn't see it.

1098
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 5: The whole time. He's been trying to trying to not

1099
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 5: reveal his powers it, but in this moment he was

1100
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 5: just like fuck it, I'll do it for him or whatever.

1101
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 3: So yeah, and then for you to just try to

1102
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 3: fund me over in the end, like, yeah, that's fucked up.

1103
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 5: I was like, damn, damn, that's messed up. Yeah, Like

1104
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 5: they nailed that moment A being so hard on the

1105
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 5: show man.

1106
00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 3: I just don't understand.

1107
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: What did you want.

1108
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 3: I didn't want anything. I didn't want to watch this.

1109
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 4: I didn't want to see Ben Kingsley and yah Ya

1110
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 4: in something like this. I didn't want anything. Only positive

1111
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 4: I can give is the fact that episodes were fucking

1112
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 4: thirty five minutes long.

1113
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 5: I got you, No, that was I mean, yeah, I couldn't.

1114
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 5: I couldn't do this if the episodes were hour I

1115
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 5: will say that.

1116
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, episodes are an hour long.

1117
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they definitely did a good job of getting us

1118
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 2: in and out. But we saw like a very similar

1119
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 2: situation the Doorman, which is why the episode was so

1120
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 2: good kind of show like, because Simon walked out, he

1121
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: got mad, and he just blew up and everything fall apart,

1122
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: hit com dc uh and he's basically busted.

1123
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: All right, Mike.

1124
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 2: Did you like when he called the mom and did

1125
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 2: you feel this scene?

1126
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1127
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I I, for some reason, I felt the

1128
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 4: connection between him and his mother more than I felt

1129
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 4: it between him and the Mandarin. So him calling his mama,

1130
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 4: that's what we do when we're in trouble. I was like, okay, yeah,

1131
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 4: that was cool. And I did like him losing control

1132
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 4: and blowing the building up and all that, But then

1133
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 4: I was just like, how are you gonna get out

1134
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 4: of this bro?

1135
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: Same?

1136
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 3: How are you gonna get out of this one?

1137
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: Same?

1138
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: And the Mandarin took the fall, yeah, which I was

1139
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: confused by that because I'm like, okay, and I guess

1140
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: he had to take the wind, which is what he said,

1141
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: because I'm like, bro, you know, getting down will to

1142
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 2: matter and do that now the manneran sold it, but

1143
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 2: I'm like, and I guess he had to take it.

1144
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: But I'm like, your whole objective was to get Simon.

1145
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 2: This is a Simon and I know he made with

1146
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: his boss earlier.

1147
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

1148
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 2: The DC whole thing was a little bit confusing. It

1149
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 2: was just like kind of there, yeah, to kind of

1150
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 2: push Trevor to do what he was doing. But nevertheless

1151
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 2: Manderin took the fall. But yeah, Ron, I did like

1152
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 2: this scene. And you could tell Rad that the mom

1153
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: picked up immediately on what was happening because he had

1154
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: a lot earlier to her about American horror story.

1155
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: Yea, So did you did you feel this this thing?

1156
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 3: Yeah? I liked it. Yeah, I like that called him mommy.

1157
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 5: Just shows like somebody big and tough steal of vulnerable ship,

1158
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 5: a running mom you know what I'm saying, so I

1159
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 5: did like that aspect as well.

1160
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: Uh So pretty much we at the end. So basically

1161
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: what happens from here. The movie goes out, it becomes

1162
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: a success. They're popular, yes, yes, now.

1163
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: They're they're extremely popular. So he's the big stuff. The

1164
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: brother is proud of him.

1165
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: Now I should mention that Trevor Simon was concerned about

1166
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: the brother and what he would say in the interview

1167
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: to Kathy Friedman.

1168
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 3: Saying positive things about yep, yeah.

1169
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: Which was which was good. Yeah, it was nice. But

1170
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: what is he gonna say?

1171
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 3: Now?

1172
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: His brother made it right, so you know.

1173
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: Now back then you want me right right?

1174
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: So that big success.

1175
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: And then Simon goes to meet some guy named Chuck Eastwood.

1176
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 5: Before you get there, this is the callback to the

1177
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 5: Matrix guy. He got the role over, yes, over, because

1178
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 5: Trevor was in jail. Trevor was in jail, ended up

1179
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 5: getting the role as Barnaby, so end up getting this

1180
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 5: getting this job again.

1181
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 3: I just.

1182
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,439
Speaker 2: I thought that was crazy. Uh So, yeah, so now

1183
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 2: we had Chuck Eastman. He said he's there at the

1184
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: interview for a role. So he spending time with the people,

1185
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: and I like to slow reveal here.

1186
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: You know what when when? When it was happening, I

1187
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: wrote down because.

1188
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: As I was taking notes and I was watching it,

1189
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 2: I was like, is he going to break him out?

1190
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 3: This is what y'all thought.

1191
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 4: The second he showed up at his door, I was like,

1192
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 4: that's a security guard for the prison. Because the scene

1193
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 4: before that, I forgot what somebody said something to him

1194
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 4: that referenced Trevor. So it made it very clear that

1195
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 4: they were saying, like, you should kind of feel bad

1196
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 4: for Trevor.

1197
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 3: So the very next scene.

1198
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 4: He's just like, I'm practicing for this role and I

1199
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 4: just want to follow you around.

1200
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, he's a security guard. He's a

1201
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 3: fucking security guard.

1202
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 5: Wow, Like I would have never got that, Like because

1203
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 5: because he's such a successful actor, now he got the

1204
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 5: role he wanted, Like, why would you risk this in this.

1205
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 4: Moment because of the scene before that somebody said something

1206
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 4: about Trevor.

1207
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 3: Oh maybe I missed that.

1208
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 4: I forget what it was, but there was some scene

1209
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 4: right before this one that reference Trevor.

1210
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 3: Interesting, so yes, I must have missed that.

1211
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, he's going He's going to break

1212
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 4: him out because I was even thinking earlier than that

1213
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 4: when it made it seem like, oh, it been like

1214
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 4: a year or something and dude's been in jail.

1215
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 3: I was like, you didn't go break him out? Whole ass? Motherfuck?

1216
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: Are you?

1217
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 2: He felt betrayed while we gonna go get him out

1218
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 2: because he him sacrificing himself for you kind of evens

1219
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: y'all out.

1220
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 3: But so I was like, you're gonna lead the man

1221
00:59:59,360 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 3: in jail.

1222
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 4: You a whole hole a star now? Shit, he a

1223
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 4: star hole. He hit him with that Tracy Morgan's I

1224
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 4: didn't do that right? He said, what's that got to

1225
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 4: do with me? I remember you, I remember you. I

1226
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 4: didn't know Rod, but I definitely wrote it down.

1227
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: I said, there's no way he's going to break him

1228
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: out because the reason why it was a question, not

1229
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 2: a declarative, like I didn't know, because I was like, So,

1230
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: I was like, because of the reason you just said,

1231
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: you are a star now, why would you go break

1232
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: him out of risk everything?

1233
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 5: You're a high profile actor now. And I was like,

1234
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 5: there's no way he's going to do this. And of

1235
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 5: course he did. And the way they slowly.

1236
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 2: Started to do it, I'm here, you know, I can't

1237
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 2: know for the role and blah blah blah, and then

1238
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 2: something Chuck said. He was like, oh, yeah, I got

1239
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: you in and your name is Alfonso.

1240
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 3: That was kind of funny.

1241
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, And the way I looked at him when he

1242
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 5: said it was funny, like racist motherfucker.

1243
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 4: The only thing that kind of bugged me was this

1244
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 4: whole show started out with damage control keeping tabs on him.

1245
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 4: How was he able to go back to damage control

1246
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 4: and go in there?

1247
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 3: Now?

1248
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 5: That was that, but it's the it's the whole Marvel

1249
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 5: trope though you're throwing a.

1250
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 3: Hat and somebody else.

1251
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 4: But even before that, Yeah, specifically, Marvel did that a lot.

1252
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 3: Got got captain Captain America ship.

1253
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: Where they keeping track of him with was Trevor. How

1254
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: they managed to keep track of him and not necessarily.

1255
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 4: Even if it was Trevor. Once Trevor was gone, they

1256
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 4: knew where he was.

1257
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: They should have been keeping tabs on him anyway.

1258
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, so they couldn't after that point because I

1259
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 5: don't think they had Oh yeah, yeah, you remember the captain.

1260
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 5: Yeah that he couldn't do it anymore. He had he

1261
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 5: had a superior that was allowing him to keep track

1262
01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 5: on Trevor. But when but once they got the Mandol.

1263
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: The case was closed.

1264
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 3: The case is closed. They couldn't.

1265
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: They couldn't. He could see that, he can devote resources

1266
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: to that.

1267
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 4: That's why I didn't like any of this, because it

1268
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 4: was like he he blew the building up.

1269
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 3: You as damage control?

1270
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 4: No, goddamn well that was not Trevor, you know that

1271
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 4: was yeah, yeah, Simon.

1272
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 3: So why did you even close the case because it

1273
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 3: wasn't him is a superior? Why did the superior close

1274
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 3: the case?

1275
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 4: If this is damaged control and the whole point is

1276
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 4: you're keeping track of enhanced humans, why would you close

1277
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 4: the case when you know, damn well, he just blew

1278
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 4: a building up.

1279
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 3: Because they rather than Mandarin. That's why he was saying.

1280
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 5: He's like, because the Mandarins ship was way worse than

1281
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,959
Speaker 5: what the threat of Simon.

1282
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: They could have thrown them, no what because he's a

1283
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: known villain.

1284
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 3: Everybody knows him. Know.

1285
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is that they could have thrown the

1286
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 4: Mandarin in jail at any point, because yeah, the man

1287
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 4: who broke out of jail, and the only reason the

1288
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 4: manner was helping them is because they were like, we

1289
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 4: can put you back in jail.

1290
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 3: He didn't.

1291
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: He didn't.

1292
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 5: He didn't break out of jail. He got he got

1293
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 5: a less he got a lesson.

1294
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 3: Case he broke out of jail.

1295
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: Kathley broke out.

1296
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, he didn't. They said that. He said,

1297
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 3: I didn't break out. I was released, is what?

1298
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 4: But why would he say that if why would he

1299
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 4: even have a reason to say that if somebody else did.

1300
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 3: A trial, he went through the trial and he won.

1301
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 4: Okay, fine, don't I don't want to get stuck on

1302
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 4: that part. Let's say he was released. They were blackmailing

1303
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 4: him for the entire show, saying, we will throw you

1304
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 4: back in jail if you don't help us. So they

1305
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 4: could have thrown him back in jail at any point.

1306
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 4: So why would you wait until the end of the show.

1307
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 4: You know, damn well, wonder Man just blew a building up,

1308
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 4: and then you go ahead and take Mandarin back in

1309
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 4: when you know Mandarin.

1310
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 3: Didn't do it.

1311
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 4: It doesn't make any sense to me now, And this

1312
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 4: is not I I'm not shitting on the show and

1313
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 4: saying it doesn't make any sense. I'm assuming I must

1314
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 4: have missed something because this shit made no sense. You

1315
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 4: took Mandarin back to jail and then you did not

1316
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 4: even bother to keep tabs on wonder Man even though

1317
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 4: the entire show started, because you were keeping tabs on

1318
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 4: wonder Man. So you let wonder Man go, go find

1319
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 4: this security guard guy, sneak back into your building and

1320
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 4: break dude out. What y'all motherfuckers are? Sorry as shit,

1321
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 4: they were. I must have we must have missed something.

1322
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 3: You had to have.

1323
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: No, you make a fairly good point, like if I

1324
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,479
Speaker 2: shot at Bail, it's like we can't track him because

1325
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: he's a Hollywood superstar now, But nah, you know he's

1326
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: a threat because you're doing research on him. They're talking

1327
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 2: about eels and stuff when he's walking through, so you're

1328
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 2: still looking for him and you know what he can do.

1329
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: So I don't know why they didn't know he was

1330
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: there and even when.

1331
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 2: He drove by, But I guess all black people look

1332
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 2: like because he looked like he was like, hey, you

1333
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 2: look for men, even though the other guy recognized him,

1334
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 2: Like right right, there's no way Denzel can tell you

1335
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 2: that I'm just doing karaoke.

1336
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 3: Well you think John David Washington did get by no

1337
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 3: them teeth?

1338
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who else?

1339
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 5: Well they would again, they were making it. That's the

1340
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 5: whole Marvel trope. And when they put on the hat

1341
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 5: there automatically I feel you. But you're in this big

1342
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 5: successful wonder Man movie. Captain America.

1343
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: Bruh.

1344
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 5: They show him walking through buildings with a hat on,

1345
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 5: and nobody recognized who Captain America is just.

1346
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 3: Because he has on the hat.

1347
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 4: I can give it that ball, Yeah, I can say, Okay,

1348
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 4: find y'all didn't recognize him. I cannot give it the

1349
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 4: bail of y'all just stopped surveilling him at all. This

1350
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 4: They were talking about how dangerous he was two episodes prior.

1351
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 4: He's really dangerous, so y'all just stopped tracking him. Yeah,

1352
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 4: there has to be so think I'm missing but I'm

1353
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 4: not trying to go back and watch no more it is.

1354
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: I don't think you. I don't think you missed.

1355
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 3: That just seems like whack writing. I don't, I don't know.

1356
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably dropped the ball there and they just

1357
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: wanted to just get him out, you know, And I

1358
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 2: think that was it.

1359
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: It was just that simple.

1360
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 2: We're not going to kind of explain how or why

1361
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 2: or any logic of how he's managed to come to

1362
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 2: this place this wherever they were, you can't track that,

1363
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 2: like you would think there would be some type of

1364
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 2: machine that can pick up their extra ions in the

1365
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 2: in the city state or wherever they were at.

1366
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 4: But you know, yeah, this just this just this was

1367
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 4: way too convenient even for Marvel.

1368
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: But and there was no guards there. He just walked

1369
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: right in because he was with the guard I know, but.

1370
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 2: Still there were no other security guards for the Mandarin,

1371
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 2: Like you know, It's just it was a very unsecure facility,

1372
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 2: so it's in a remote place. Maybe they didn't feel

1373
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 2: the need, maybe they know the Mandery don't really have power,

1374
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 2: and then per see them a threat, not thinking that

1375
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 2: Simon's gonna come break him out of jail anyway.

1376
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 4: But I think you would also assume that they're keeping

1377
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 4: people with powers there because it's it's damage control. And

1378
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 4: when Simon's walking down the hall, he's walking by these

1379
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 4: these prison rooms, and I'm assuming there's like real people

1380
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 4: in there, like powerful people should be, should be because

1381
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 4: it's damage control. But yeah, there's no guards watching. I

1382
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 4: let that go. But him just getting to the thing

1383
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 4: and then being like, hold on to me, I'm gonna

1384
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 4: fly u.

1385
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 3: Out of here. And I was like, are y'all serious

1386
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 3: about to end like this?

1387
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: But that was the part that I did, like, did

1388
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: or didn't? I did? I did?

1389
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 2: I did given even even with the critiques. I acknowledged

1390
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 2: the critiques about you know, them not keeping track of him,

1391
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: that is an issue. But I was like, oh, we

1392
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 2: finally hear it was like the full story and he

1393
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: went back to save his friend.

1394
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm with you. Hi'm like, man, you're

1395
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: really gonna leave his dude in jail like that.

1396
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 3: I knew he wasn't gonna do that. I was, He's

1397
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 3: gonna go get him out. But then I was left

1398
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 3: with the question, is Simon a villain?

1399
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: Now?

1400
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: I mean I broke the Mandarin out of jail? Who

1401
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 2: is who was covered on national television of destroying.

1402
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: A Hollywood place?

1403
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 3: Oh you mean villain?

1404
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 4: To yes, in the context of the show, yeah I would,

1405
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 4: I would imagine. Well, but yeah, but they can't prove it.

1406
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 4: That was the other thing too, that because the cameras

1407
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 4: didn't work, so there's no proof that he did it.

1408
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: All. They have the ion, the traces of Ion.

1409
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 3: Right, and they can't use that to prove it. With him.

1410
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 4: The only thing they have is buddy the white guy

1411
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 4: that let him in and he bought him off.

1412
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 3: He bought him off.

1413
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 4: So there's you know, now, can they threaten to like

1414
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 4: throw you in jail if you don't tell us? I

1415
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 4: would assume yes, you have direct like you let somebody

1416
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 4: in that broke our prisoner out. I don't give a

1417
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 4: fuck how much money you have. We're gonna throw you

1418
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 4: in jail if you don't tell us. So that was

1419
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 4: the other thing I was thinking at the end of

1420
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 4: the show, I was like, you just ruined this fucking

1421
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 4: guy's life.

1422
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 3: I was thinking the same.

1423
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 4: This guy was binding his own fucking business.

1424
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 3: Yo.

1425
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 4: Black ass showed up and said, I'm gonna use you

1426
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 4: to break my friend out of jail. Here's a couple

1427
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 4: thousand dollars. That's fucking foul. That's foul. Now this dude

1428
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 4: might go to jail because of you.

1429
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1430
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 4: I was really like at the end of this, I

1431
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 4: was like, I don't understand what the fuck did I

1432
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 4: just watch?

1433
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 3: Now.

1434
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 4: I'm really I'm happy for people, but I was really

1435
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 4: surprised by the praise. I thought this was as bad

1436
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 4: as she Hulk, but a lot of people seem to

1437
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 4: be loving it.

1438
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 3: So that's wonderful for Marvel.

1439
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 4: I'm happy for Yeah, yeah, I'm happy for Ben Kingsley

1440
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 4: because he's an incredible actor. But this shit, no, sir, no, ma'am,

1441
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 4: I do not need a season two. I don't really

1442
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 4: need to see what you're gonna do to Doomsday. The dudes,

1443
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 4: they ain't gonna know. He ain't gonna know what to

1444
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 4: do when y'all y'all show up, Doctor Due, ain't gonna

1445
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 4: know what the fuck to do when wonder Man show up,

1446
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 4: busting with them ions and ship, I got you boy

1447
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 4: doing monologues and whatnot.

1448
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 3: The fucking Festbian Hero showed that he was he was.

1449
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently he's pretty pretty powerful. Like the back out

1450
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,719
Speaker 2: of that like that. Yeah, well, well well we'll close out. Yeah,

1451
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 2: any final thoughts as we close out?

1452
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 5: No, I just looked up the whole Mandarin ship. Yeah,

1453
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 5: it's apparently like a Marvel one shot, fourteen minute serie

1454
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 5: thing about the Mandarins call all hell the King, and

1455
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 5: I guess that's where he gets broken out. So I

1456
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 5: guess that's a call back for you know, to that.

1457
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 5: I was like, oh shit, I never knew this existed.

1458
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 5: Came out in twenty fourteen. It seems like it's pretty.

1459
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 5: It's on, It's on, It's on Disney. If anybody, it's

1460
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 5: called Marvel one shot all hell machine.

1461
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 3: I didn't see that one, but I do.

1462
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 2: I have watched some of the other stuff that they have,

1463
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 2: but I can't see that one.

1464
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 3: It's like fourteen minutes long. Yiod Nope. May you get

1465
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 3: context to this? I'm pretty sure it does.

1466
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 4: I don't need context. Y'all just got telling me how

1467
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 4: to fuck. Y'all didn't know this motherfucker was walking around

1468
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,799
Speaker 4: hat the hat man. The hat broke all the tracers

1469
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 4: and stuff too. Maybe they can't trace him because the

1470
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 4: his ion powers break the tracers.

1471
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, they showed that.

1472
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 1: No, no, it just broke the camp campus.

1473
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 3: He's talking about the tracers track.

1474
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: Either way, I go, I like you watching it.

1475
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 2: Halfway through, I was like, when I saw nothing like

1476
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 2: Marvel has ever done, Like.

1477
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: What are they talking about?

1478
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 3: It's kind of not right.

1479
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 2: When I got to the end, I was like, oh,

1480
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 2: like I needed I was telling them I needed all

1481
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 2: episodes for this thing. I needed the complete story for

1482
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 2: this thing to work for me because separately, yeah, no,

1483
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 2: But when.

1484
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 1: I got to the end, I was like oh, okay,

1485
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: from here to here cool. I like what they did, a.

1486
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 2: Complete one shot story, and I'm good. I'm trying not

1487
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 2: to ask how does he fit into the bigger Marvel

1488
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 2: Doomsday and all the other shit.

1489
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm just good what we got. Let's move on.

1490
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 4: He didn't say wonder Man will returning Doomsday, so I'm

1491
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 4: assuming wonder Man is out.

1492
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: Give me Trevor off somewhere.

1493
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 3: He's not a hero.

1494
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 4: The second he hear oh the mask, motherfucker fighting, I'm

1495
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 4: not going over there.

1496
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 3: Why would I go help?

1497
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: Nah?

1498
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 3: Bro?

1499
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, y'all.

1500
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 3: Can have this. I'm sorry, but cocudos. People that liked it.

1501
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was really surprised until I finished it how

1502
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 2: many people were really enjoying it.

1503
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: I thought they were just I thought they were lying. Honestly.

1504
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 4: I just went to Twitter because I didn't want to

1505
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 4: watch it. I went to Twitter and everyone was like, man,

1506
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 4: wonder Man is great. I was like, what really?

1507
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 2: I thought they were just saying because he was black.

1508
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 2: But maybe they will leave it there, man, unlike Malaya. Damn,

1509
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 2: we'll leave it there.

1510
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 1: Man, We'll catch you any closing dollars boys, get out

1511
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: of there.

1512
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 3: No.

1513
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 5: No, I personally enjoyed it, and I'd be curious to

1514
01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 5: see what they do with this. Yeah, yeah, because it

1515
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 5: was different. It was different. Yeah, I'll be curious, man.

1516
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 5: And I you know, I want the representation because I

1517
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:11,759
Speaker 5: did not like iron Hart.

1518
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 4: I liked iron Heart more than this, really, absolutely, and

1519
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 4: I did not like iron Heart at all.

1520
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 3: Damn.

1521
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 2: I'm not like iron Hard hard Yeah, alright, man, Well

1522
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 2: we'll leave it there.

1523
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 1: Man, we'll get you guys next time. We off peace.

1524
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 3: Mike don't like black superheroes. I don't