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Speaker 2: I don't know if this guy's ever been in the

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Speaker 2: the Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckworth. How are you so good?

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Speaker 3: Good to be with you guys.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to get to the grand jury stuff

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Speaker 2: business first. We've got the redistrict debate, redrawing the congressional

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Speaker 2: Looks like December is going to be the start. Hearing

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Speaker 2: some chatter that the Senate might not be there, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we'll get there. It is certainly not

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Speaker 4: They want to see the maps, which is a fair point.

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Speaker 4: I was talking to one senator. He said, I don't

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Speaker 1: I think we know, if we've learned anything from Washington,

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Speaker 1: What's what I said, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what she said. Well, and I think they're

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Speaker 3: That's just the case. That's what's happening.

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Speaker 4: And so I'm not surprised that the House got there

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Speaker 2: Right, So let's into the grand jury investigation. You've came

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Speaker 1: And let's be specific about what this grand jury investigation

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Speaker 3: No, I don't your take on the grand jury. I

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Speaker 4: I'm saying is you can bring anything to a grand jury.

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Speaker 4: Never told me, never told me about it, not once.

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Speaker 3: Yet he admitted in the interview one member.

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Speaker 3: Now. No, I never knew about the grand jury investigation.

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Speaker 2: Do you understand or do you think it's over the

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's it was predictable.

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Speaker 4: I'm a threat to everything of the Marxist agenda, the

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Speaker 4: So that's fine. I believe that, you know, the weapon

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Speaker 2: And it's not because I'm some sort of butt sniffer

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean absolutely, you guys are You guys are

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Speaker 3: I was on the show for four years.

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Speaker 2: Now keep in mind, I am going to give Rob

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Speaker 3: I would love to be on with him every Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Still, you know, I love Rob And by the way,

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Speaker 3: He's put out something like that.

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Speaker 4: How dumb do you have to be to go to

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Speaker 3: No? I did not. I did not pay for Diego's trip.

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Speaker 2: Who paid for Diego's trip?

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Speaker 3: Do you have no idea? I have no idea. Okay,

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Speaker 3: That's true. And listen the Senate.

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Speaker 4: There's no there's no hiffs, hands or buts about it,

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Speaker 3: Republicans have to know the war they're in.

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Speaker 4: We are up against communists absolutely trying to destroy everything

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Speaker 2: Thirty seconds left. I want to throw an idea out there.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thank you so much for coming in appreciate our questions.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you