1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from the heartlier and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. So if the Senate hearing with FBI 3 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: Director Cash Hotel. 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: Wasn't clinically insane enough, now we've got the House at 5 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: their oversight hearing taking their turn. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, 6 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: good to be with you. This is the House Judiciary Committee. 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: They're hearing with the FBI Director Cashpatel. And when we 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: last left cashpatl he was having a very genteel conversation 9 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: with California Senator Adam Schiff. 10 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: No, I think the American people believe the truth that 11 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: I'm not in the weeds on the everyday movements. 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 4: That what I am doing is protecting this country, providing 13 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 4: the historic and combatting the. 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: Reprenovation of intelligence. 15 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 4: And we had a cow lessly proven you to be 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 4: a lawyer in Russia Gate in January where brought to 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 4: every sing United States Senate disgrace to this time and 18 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 4: an utter talent. 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 5: I'm not surprised that you continue to lie from your 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 5: party and put. 22 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: On a show of you. You can go raise money 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: for your charo reason. You are political buffoon at best. Well, 24 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: you can take. 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 5: To the that the FBI protected country state cenicide California. 26 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: Historic report of Order. 27 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 5: But all you care about is a child sex predator 28 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 5: that was prosecuted by a prior administration and the Obama 29 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 5: Justice Department and the Biden Justice Department did squad? 30 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: And what did President Trump do? 31 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: Bring new charges courageously? 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: And what have we done? Take the most transparent. 33 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 5: FBI director in history, thirty three thousand pages of information 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 5: to you, I challenge. 35 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 4: You to say anything credibly to the truth. Go ahead 36 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 4: and run in the cameras where you want to go next. 37 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: So, yeah, that all went well. Honestly, for many of you, 38 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: it reminded you of a family reunion that's Thanksgiving with 39 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: your progressive uncle. I expect the same level of insanity 40 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: coming from people like Jamie Raskin. 41 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 6: Are in shock to the brutal assassination of Charlie Kirk 42 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 6: in cold blood. And there is never any warrant for 43 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 6: political violence in America. And just as we all recoiled 44 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 6: together at the shocking assassination of Melissa Hortman and others 45 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 6: who died in that Minnesota attack, we all stand together 46 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 6: categorically against political violence in America. And determined to end 47 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 6: you know, these cycles of of political violence that have 48 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 6: traumatized the country. 49 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: I would say that's great, except why not call out 50 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: the people on the political left who are cheering these things? 51 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: Why not call those people out? Jamie Raskin, I mean, 52 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: I'm almost pleased to should say to an extent, please 53 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: to hear him say such a thing. But why does 54 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: it have to connect to this one? Why does that 55 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: have to connect to that one? Why doesn't exist on 56 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: its own? The assassination of Charlie Kirk is an assassination. 57 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: The story in Minnesota, this woman who was killed, this politico, 58 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: we still don't have the whole story. Who was this 59 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: guy who went to the home of Melissa Hortman, This 60 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: guy who was appointed by Tim Walls to two different committees, 61 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: or appointed twice? Was it to the same committee? By 62 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: the way, luckily another state senator survived. Who is this dude? 63 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: I again, I don't use names, right, And what was 64 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: his connections? People want to say, well, he was a 65 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: Trump supporter. There's nothing that says, my gosh, he was 66 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: there twenty four to seven and was ginned up by 67 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: Donald Trump and by the political right to go out 68 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: there and attack this member of the Minnesota House. Basically, 69 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: she's a state rep. Nothing, nothing, that's not real. What 70 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 2: they're trying to create is a level of equivocation between 71 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: this and Charlie Kirk. Where it is clear, especially now 72 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: that we have seen the text messages of this guy 73 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: and his romantic partner, this man who was allegedly transitioning 74 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: to be a woman, even though you can't do that 75 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: because men are men and women are women, and you 76 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: cannot become a woman. It's just not the way it works. 77 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: And that's not rude, by the way, that's just fact. 78 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: That's just fact. You've got the conversations of eighty six 79 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: forty seven by James Comy. You've got the idea that 80 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: if you don't use the right pronoun, you're denying the 81 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: existence of trans people and you're erasing them. You have 82 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: everybody saying that Donald Trump and MAGA and people on 83 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: the political right, they're a threat to democracy. There's a 84 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: difference between these things. I don't think we should deny 85 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: what happens to Representative Hortman. I think we should talk 86 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: about it, and I want to know more about that 87 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: killer and what happened and how we can prevent these 88 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: things to the best of our ability. Political assassinations have 89 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: taken place in our past, and they have taken place 90 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: in history's past. The assassin of Charlie Kirk was, by 91 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: the way, one week ago today. One week ago today, 92 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: right about this time is when the news broke. This 93 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 2: was about ginning up an entire segment of America to 94 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: thinking that, Oh, I can't live with that hate anymore. 95 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: You mean he disagreed with you, that's the hate. I 96 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: think communists are chock full of hate. Oh, by the way, 97 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 2: they are. They're also violence people. They're also murderous people. 98 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: They are. I mean, the history is just replete with examples, 99 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 2: and if taken to its end degree, that's what you get. 100 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: Don't tell me Venezuela is just some nice paradise while 101 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: they eat pigeons. There's a difference between these things that 102 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: we should say so, and I will not allow for 103 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: the equivocation. So even when I hear Jamie Rousse can 104 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: say these things the congressman from Maryland, the progressive who 105 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 2: was happy to impeach Trump twice, who is a radical progressive, 106 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 2: it is moral equivocation, or it is a level of equivocation. 107 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: To the idea, well, this was bad, but this was 108 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: also bad. No one is saying that the killing of 109 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: Representative Hortman isn't bad. We talked about it, but it 110 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 2: is based on the fact different than what happened to 111 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk. They aren't equivalent things outside of both people 112 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: were killed. There is a question as to why. Now 113 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: you'll note that I don't think that the crime is different. 114 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: I say, charge both of these so called men. And 115 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: that's just because if you're going around killing people you 116 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: disagree with, what kind of man are you? With? The 117 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: charge them. I don't think it's more of a I 118 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: actually don't think it's more of a crime because it's 119 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk. I don't think it's more of a crime 120 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: because it is somebody who sits in political office. Although 121 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: the law might say that that is more of a crime, 122 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: there might be other charges that can be brought. I'm 123 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: not saying that you shouldn't prosecute them differently. I am 124 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: stating that what brought us to the place is different, 125 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: and if we don't acknowledge that, we will never be 126 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: able to engage the full and complete story. And we 127 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: need to. We have to. We don't have an option. 128 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: If we don't, we are doomed a crazed person, which 129 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: does exist in our history, going after this member of 130 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: the Minnesota House of Representatives, going after multiples, by the way, 131 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: because it was State Senator John Hoffman and his wife 132 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: who were shot and hospitalized, they survived. It was Melissa 133 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: Hortman and her husband Mark who were killed. That is 134 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: a different story than the Charlie Kirk story. The Charlie 135 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: Kirk story the assassin there is about left wing propagandizing 136 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: the story of the killer of Melissa Hortman. I still 137 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: don't have the full picture, and I don't know why 138 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: we don't have the full picture. I would appreciate it, 139 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 2: I think you would. Federal charging documents describe the shooter 140 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 2: as acting with quote the intent to kill, injury, harass, 141 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: and intimidate Minnesota legislators. There was a list of people 142 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 2: he wanted to go after, including elected officials and abortion providers, 143 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: pro abortion rights activists and lawmakers in Minnesota and Wisconsin. 144 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: And in his car flyers that said no Kings, which 145 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: is that anti Trump insanity. So my point to you is, 146 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: I still don't know about this dude. When we find 147 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: out more. We should discuss it, but it doesn't take 148 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: away from what we know about the assassin of Charlie Kirk, 149 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: who turned himself politically left, who engaged these left wing 150 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: talking points and decided that Charlie Kirk had too much 151 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: hate and couldn't be reasoned with. Oh well then that 152 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: makes it all okay. So they're gonna now speak with 153 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: Cash Pattel, and if it's anything like what happened on 154 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 2: the Setate side, it should be very very interesting. Oh 155 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: and if Cash Hotel again says that the FBI has 156 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: no proof that Jeffrey Epstein was trafficking women to people 157 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: and that they don't have any names of people he 158 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 2: trafficked them too, I'm still gonna say, Cashptel, FBI director, 159 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: I flat out don't believe you. But that's that's just me. 160 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: I'll wait you two, huh what do you know about that? 161 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: Keep it here. This is Tony Kats today, in the 162 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 2: all important spirit of full disclosure, or really, since I 163 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: have nothing to disclose, of making sure we cover every story, 164 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: understand what is being said, and understand what it means. 165 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 2: Let's take a look at what happened at Evergreen High 166 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: School Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 167 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: There was a school shooting Evergreen High School. This in Colorado. 168 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: This was on This was on September eleventh, where you 169 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: had two students injured and the shooter died of self 170 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: inflicted gunshot wounds. That's how I have the story. There 171 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: might be updates that I don't have. The shooter in 172 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: this case, shot and wounded two students had reposted a 173 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: photo of a revolver and a box of ammunition two 174 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: hours beforehand. Okay. Allegedly, hints of his intentions were left 175 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 2: online leading up to the attack, for example, the revolver 176 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: and the box of ammunition. This guy shared the photo 177 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: on his ex account and on TikTok he posted images 178 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 2: of a skull map, a ballistic vest, and a knife 179 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: with a Nordic rune drawing on it. And the only 180 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: thing that I have here in this story is that 181 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: that the Jefferson County Sheriff's office said that the shooter 182 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: was radicalized by extremists. Okay, do we know anything else? 183 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: Do we know the extremists? Do we know anything? They're 184 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: saying they're looking for a motive, but still don't have 185 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: one yet. Now this is the reporting as of last week, 186 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: a week ago from or a week lass Thursday. So 187 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: I don't have anything more than what I'm sharing with you. 188 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 2: But people want to say, you see this, this school 189 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: shooting radicalized by the political right. Tell me more about 190 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: the radicalized. Here's the day and post radicalized. Evergreen High 191 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: School shooter appeared to hold anti Semitic violent views and 192 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: online accounts. I'm not so sure that's the political right 193 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: when you say it like that. Social media accounts appear 194 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: to connect beard to be connected to this shooter are 195 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: littered with references to mass shootings and anti Semitic views. 196 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: He was espousing white supremacist views online, showing an interest 197 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: in mass shooters. If you want to make the argument 198 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: that white supremacy is the most dangerous thing out there, 199 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: you're more than welcome to do so. But no one 200 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: follows that as fact. There's a difference between what I 201 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: just said and whether or not someone can be radicalized, 202 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: because if we are honest people, we're looking at this 203 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 2: and saying, well, how do we stop people from being radicalized? 204 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: How do we do that? When you tell me there's 205 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: a guy here who believes in Holocaust denial believes in 206 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 2: going after Jews. Doesn't make me think, man, the political 207 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: right is terrible. I'm on the political right and you 208 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: already know where I come from. This guy was after me. 209 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: He wasn't radicalized by me. But people are radicalized. Weak people, sad, 210 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: people looks looking searching for something to blame, someone to blame, anything, 211 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: to blame someone to hate. This does indeed happen, and 212 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: we as a society should not think otherwise. We shouldn't 213 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: say it doesn't happen, or it only happens in one way. 214 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: That's nutty. The question is are we willing to say 215 00:14:54,720 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: this is an issue? In no place does the political 216 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: rights and you would have to point me to it 217 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: where someone has gone about because they're an avowed white supremacist, 218 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: has the political rights said yeah, but we're not upset 219 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: with him. That's not it. That's never it. Ever, when 220 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: we talk about Charlie Kirk, he was assassinated and people said, good, 221 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: who's next, Let's make a list, and educators did it, 222 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: and college professors did it, and people on the cultural 223 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: scene did it, and Politico is mocked. Why, of what value? 224 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: Of what purpose is such a thing except to say 225 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: we don't care when it's us, and that is not 226 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: something that happens from the political right. And one of 227 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: the reasons I wanted to make sure I got to 228 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: this story is because there is never a moment we 229 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: don't talk about everything, every thing. And I'm telling you 230 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,119 Speaker 2: right now, I still don't know everything about this story. 231 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: I don't know everything about why this kid did this. 232 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: Posting the Columbine shooters on some social media depicted people 233 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: in Nazi uniforms. I mean, it's really an awful, horrible, 234 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: horrible story. And you don't see the political rights saying 235 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: well it was okay, or well he was just misunder 236 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: said No, everyone should be saying this is ugly, the 237 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: radicalization is ugly, The abuse of our children is ugly. 238 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: It is we should be proactive to stopping it, being 239 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: aware of what's happening with our kids, being aware of 240 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: what they're subjected to. Someone's gonna say, well, the problem 241 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: is he had a gun. I think the problem is 242 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: that he was given this line of nonsense to think, Hey, 243 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: these people or the problem I hate these people, so 244 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: let's go attack people at the school, which if he 245 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: was a Jew hating bigot, they weren't the problem at 246 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: the school. I mean, it's just a weird target. In 247 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 2: that case, maybe there's some more to the story. There's 248 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: never a moment at all where we you and I 249 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 2: are afraid of having the conversation in full completely. We're 250 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 2: simply not afraid to do it. It is important, it 251 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: is valuable. We don't want schools having shooters, and I 252 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: want schools protected, and I want armed guards at schools. 253 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: If armed guards at jewelry stores were not at schools, 254 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: some things are more precious than diamonds. Guys, Why this 255 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,239 Speaker 2: guy decides to shoot up a school. These are the 256 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: things that we need to be addressing. These are the 257 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 2: things we need to be focusing on. We need to 258 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: be keeping an eye on how easy it is to 259 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 2: access this nonsense garbage in from that poisons our kids. 260 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: In the same way, we need to keep an eye 261 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: on the ways people access garbage nonsense like hey, you're 262 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 2: a man and you can become a woman and it's 263 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: totally normal and everybody should buy into it, and everybody 264 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 2: should should be supportive of your mental illness. No who 265 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: amongst us is supportive of the mental illness of saying 266 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: Group X is the root of all your problems in 267 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 2: this case, what would be the difference between the radicalization 268 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: of this sixteen year old and the radicalization of the 269 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: assassin of Charlie Kirk. We shouldn't be saying one and 270 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: not the other. But I will not allow for the 271 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: diminishing or the diminution of what happened to Charlie Kirk. 272 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: Not going to do it because the left doesn't want 273 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 2: to accept the fact that mental illness is being propped 274 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 2: up in America. It is by the political left, and 275 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 2: they are wrong, and it is destroying people, just like 276 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: it did at Annunciation Church and that school, like it 277 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: did in Nashville. These things are killing people, killing people. 278 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 2: So how about we don't run to fiefdoms and we 279 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: recognize that we've got an issue. You don't feed into 280 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: mental illness by saying, oh sure a boy can become 281 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 2: a girl or a girl can become a boy. And 282 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: you don't leave your kid just to wander the social 283 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: media landscape without parental supervision. Let's start there. This is 284 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 2: Tony Katz today thing, this is way off the topic. 285 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 3: But who has Jeffrey Epstein's book Black Book FBI? 286 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: But who that is? 287 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 3: I mean that's under direct control of the director of 288 00:19:59,359 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 3: the FBI. 289 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 6: All right, so you were sworn in his director more 290 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 6: than two hundred days ago. Now the Black Book is 291 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 6: under your direct control. So why haven't you released the 292 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 6: names of Epstein's co conspirators in the rape and sex 293 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 6: trafficking of young women and girls. 294 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: Now that's Jamie Raskin, the Progressive from Maryland. It's Cash Battel, 295 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: their House Judiciary committee. That oversight hearing. The Senate hearing 296 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 2: was so nuts. I wanted to bring it to you. 297 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: I've just I haven't had a chance yet. We've been 298 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: talking a lot. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to 299 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: be with you. I'm no Jamie Raskin fan at all. 300 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: I find him to be an objectionable person, and certainly 301 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 2: the work he did on impeachments over nothing should be 302 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: disqualifying for him to be re elected. Shame on the 303 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: people of Maryland. But it was Cash Fttel. He was 304 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 2: on there with Glenn Beck a few years back saying 305 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: that the FBI director has the Black Book book, which 306 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: is to say, the information about who it is that 307 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: was being sex trafficked, human trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein. Glenne Maxwell, 308 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: and we don't know who else. Which is the information 309 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 2: we want? I want the information. I have always wanted 310 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: the information. When President Trump said stop paying attention to this, 311 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 2: I said he was wrong. I saw people on the 312 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 2: political right, radio hosts and commentators, quote unquote, influencers others 313 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: say we shouldn't be paying attention to this. Trump doesn't 314 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: want us to pay attention to this. This doesn't matter. 315 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: It absolutely does matter. It is always mattered. And again 316 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 2: I will say to you that Attorney General Pam Bondi 317 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: screwed this all up. I don't think cash Battel, the 318 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: FBI director, has done himself favors. But he hasn't. I 319 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: don't think he has been as a lot of people, 320 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: especially after the investigation into who assassinated Charlie Kirk. Oh, 321 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: what terrible, awful job. I don't feel that way. I 322 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: think I think that Cashptel gets himself a little to 323 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 2: emotion times. I think Cashptel gets himself into certain levels 324 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: of too much intensity at times on the wrong subjects. 325 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: And I think that he has come across flustered before. 326 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: I think that that is true, But I don't think 327 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 2: it's the end of days with cash Btel. I think 328 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: that's just a weird take. I think it's a weird 329 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: argument that that people see it that way. But they 330 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: do and and and I leave them to it. I 331 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 2: I don't. But when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, I 332 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: just can't find myself believing what it is that I hear, 333 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 2: like yesterday and that Senate hearing that they're the FBI 334 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: has no information that would show who Jeffrey Epstein was trafficking. 335 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: Uh these young women too. I'm sorry I can't buy 336 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: into this, but this becomes a very interesting conversation between 337 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: cash Betel and Representative Raskin about whether or not Raskin 338 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 2: is listening or is just desperate for the SoundBite for 339 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 2: whatever television commercial he's now going to put out so 340 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: he can raise money. So great example of what's happening 341 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: in these hearings, why Americans tune out in such great measure, 342 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: and why I bring them to you here so you 343 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: can hear it for yourself. I swear to you to me, 344 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 2: every single part of this, in every single way, is 345 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: nothing more than a public service announcement at this stage 346 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: of the game, because if you don't hear it for yourself, 347 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: you won't know, and learning is half the battle. There's 348 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: no one who can say it better than the way 349 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: they go through this. So this was the question from 350 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: Jamie Raskin. If you have control of this Black Book, 351 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: why don't you release the information about the Black Book? 352 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: The Rolodex, which is what everybody colloquially refers to as 353 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 3: the Black Book, has been Oh. 354 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 6: I know, you're talking about what the journalist got five 355 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 6: years ago. No, that's not what we're talking about. We're 356 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 6: talking about what you were talking about there, the Black 357 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 6: Book under the direct control of the FBI director. 358 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: We have released more material than anyone else before the 359 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 3: Biden administration Obama administration of the exact opportunities to release 360 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 3: this material, they never did. 361 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: And if you are selling the men and women the. 362 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 3: Fab why are not going after child Hang on, you 363 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: said we're not going after child predators? Fifteen hundred child 364 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: predators arrested this year, thirty five percent in forty seven 365 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: hundred child make. 366 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 6: You're true and I'm going to reclaim my time if 367 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 6: you could instruct the witness. Why have you changed your 368 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 6: position there? You were saying it's under the direct control 369 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 6: of the FBI director and all of it should be released. 370 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 3: Why did you thro that has been lawfully permitted to 371 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 3: be released has been released? And as I told you, 372 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: really the investigation was limited. And let me make something 373 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: crystal clear. I never said Jeffrey Epstein didn't traffic other people, 374 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 3: other women, and they're not other victims. This is the 375 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: investigation we were given from two thousand and six seven 376 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 3: to eight, and the warrant from two thousand and six 377 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 3: seven to eight. That's what we're working with. 378 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 6: Wait, have you released all of the stuff that the 379 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 6: FBI has seized from Epstein's house? 380 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: Now wait a second. Now this might be news to people, 381 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: and it's interesting to hear they are still investigating the 382 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: crimes based on the warrants of Then you mean nothing 383 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 2: new has been established created an opportunity to investigate this 384 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 2: case better? Does that make sense to anyone, because it 385 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: doesn't make sense to me. Walk me through it, somebody 386 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: who understands the legal aspects here or understands the workings 387 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 2: of the FBI or warrants. Why haven't we no other 388 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: administration did anything to be able to help this case along. 389 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: They just said, well, we don't actually want to know 390 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 2: the information. We want to slow roll this, so therefore don't. 391 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 2: This is very very odd stuff. I found that to 392 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: be a bit shocking. 393 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 6: It continues, the computers, the emails, the file cabinets, the documents, 394 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 6: and what about the financial records? 395 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: Have you released all of that? 396 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 3: Everything the court has allowedest to which order you're talking about, 397 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 3: Three separate federal courts have come in and said, we're talking. 398 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: About the evidence you've got. It's got nothing to do 399 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 2: with what those courts. 400 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: Do you have anything talking about the law works? Do 401 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 3: you want me to break the law in a federal 402 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: judge's order? 403 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: No, I want you to follow your own word, Director Patel. 404 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 6: You said up there it was under the direct control 405 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 6: of the FBI director. 406 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: He had the black. 407 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 3: Everything we have direct control over, we have gone the court. 408 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 6: You have it. 409 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: Complete your sentence. Everything you have direct control over. 410 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 3: You said, have gone the court, and everything we have 411 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 3: directed direct said, everything you release, they're releasing. 412 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 7: You'd like to complete his answer. 413 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 2: We'd like for him to complete his answer as well, 414 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: and he did. It's just Jamie Raskin was talking so much, 415 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: talked right over him, and they're going to go over it. 416 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 2: You really least everything that you were lawfully allowed to 417 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: release weight everything, every I have issue with everything, but 418 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 2: this is the argument that's being made everything they can 419 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: lawfully release. And Jamie Raskin, the congressman from Maryland Democrat, 420 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: clearly doesn't want to hear this, and I think at 421 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: some moment he's purposely talking over, purposely acting obtuse. But 422 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 2: they get into this what did you know and when 423 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: did you know it? Conversation. 424 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 6: You began this sentence everything you have direct control over 425 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 6: I and then you stop that sentence. You've released everything 426 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 6: that you have direct control over I. 427 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 3: Have direct control over and can lawfully release. If you're 428 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 3: not familiar with the court orders, that's not my fault. 429 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm perf looking at that. I'm more with them. 430 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: How did we prosecute Glaine Maxwell? 431 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 3: She was prosecuted with the investigatory material that was collected 432 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 3: from two thousand and one and two thousand and five. 433 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: Because of the non pross secute agreements and the court 434 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 3: orders on the investigations and search warnes, we were not 435 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 3: able to develop new information. And oh, by the way, 436 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein was out for twelve years and the Obama 437 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 3: and Biden administration did nothing to look at his work. 438 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: His pedophile network. If you want to blame me, that's fine, 439 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 3: But now you're blaming the men and women who conduct 440 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 3: this site. 441 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 6: That I'm not blaming anybody other than you. 442 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: You're not keeping your word. You said that you would 443 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: release all of the materials. 444 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: That anyone's releasing more information on Epstein. 445 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: Than I have, that's not the argument, Director Patel, and 446 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: we would say that it's not enough, even if you 447 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: want to argue it's more. But Jamie Raskin is not 448 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: engaged in the honest conversation. If the courts say you 449 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: can't release it, it can't be released. I may disagree 450 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: with it, you may disagree with it, but we would 451 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: understand that there is this court order and there could 452 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: be reasons for it. There are innocent people involved, et cetera. 453 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: But that's that would be okay, frustrating. But whether or 454 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: not you've released more than anybody else is inconsequential to 455 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: whether or not there has been a lack of release. 456 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 2: But still I go back to Representative Raskin, who refuses 457 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: to acknowledge that there might be courts saying sorry, doesn't 458 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: matter what you want. We have a rule of law here, 459 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 2: and this is what you can have with anyone. Much more, 460 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: much more. 461 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 6: Excuse me, much more has come out in the days 462 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 6: since the American people in Congress have been demanding it. 463 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 6: But it's coming out in drips and drabs. Why don't 464 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 6: you just release the entire file as you promised to do. 465 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: I literally just told you there are multiple federal court orders. 466 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: I'm not going to break the law to satisfy your curiosity. 467 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: You didn't join us when we filed courts to release. 468 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: The court orders. 469 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: You could have, you have lawyers, you could have shown up. 470 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: You didn't do that. 471 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 6: That's a tiny fraction of the material where. 472 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: Its not How do you know that? Have you seen everything? 473 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: And it's all misdirection. It's all misdirection. I want more 474 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: information released, but I don't know how. So to look 475 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: at cash Buttel and not think that he didn't answer 476 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: the question there directly. His argument is that the courts 477 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: won't let us know. If you want to argue that 478 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: the courts do actually let you, well, that's a different 479 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: argument altogether. And Jamie Raskin could have made it, but 480 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 2: he didn't. Now later in the hearing, after Representative Dan Goleman, 481 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: you know Dan Goleman, he always looks like he's he's 482 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: a democrat, and he always looks like when he's like 483 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: on TV he's doing a hostage video, his face is expressionless. 484 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: And he was also an impeachriment manager. Not my guy. 485 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: In the slightest he asked the same nonsensical questions. You 486 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: don't understand the court orders. You don't understand this, You 487 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: don't understand that. You are oversight. If you think that 488 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: the courts are giving him permission to share things that 489 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: he's not sharing. You can go make that case, but 490 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: no one is actually making that case. They're kind of 491 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: hinting around it. Go make that case to the court 492 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 2: to better explain their position. I mean, Dan Goldman referred 493 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: to cash Hotel as part of the cover up. I 494 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: think that there's information we're not getting. Don't get me wrong. 495 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: I think we have to stay a foot to the 496 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: floor on that. But if you want to say that 497 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: the courts are allowing you to share stuff you're not sharing, 498 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, Congressmen get on it. But they don't 499 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: seem to be doing that. It's all you're not reading, 500 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: you're not understanding the court properly. Go force the court 501 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: to tell them to give us the info. Then after Goldman, 502 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: it went to the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee 503 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: that would be Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio, and Jim 504 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: Jordan was like, Hey, let me ask you a. 505 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 7: Question, Director, Yes or no. Is the FBI still spying 506 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 7: on parents and school board meetings? 507 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: No, sir. 508 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 7: Is the FBI still targeting Catholics? No, sir, Is the 509 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 7: FBI still spying on President Trumpone I don't believe so. 510 00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 7: Is the FBI still censoring Americans? No, sir, is the 511 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 7: FBI is still targeting Americans for shopping at cabellas or 512 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 7: purchasing bibles. 513 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: Nobody is targeted for their faith. 514 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 7: Is the FBI still targeting Americans who are pro life? 515 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 3: Nobody is targeting anyone for their beliefs. 516 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 7: The FBI is still cooking the books on crime data. 517 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 3: The crime data is real. 518 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 7: Is the FBI still purging agents for conservative viewpoints? 519 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 3: No one at the FBI has asked their viewpoints. 520 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 7: Is the FBI still labeling the Betsy Ross flag the 521 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 7: flag of the American Revolution, a hate symbol? No, well, 522 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 7: maybe that's why you've been able to what was the 523 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 7: number twenty three thousand bad guys you've arrested a huge 524 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 7: increase from the same time period in the previous administration. 525 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 7: I think you said fourteen hundred predators, four thousand children rescued. 526 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 7: Those were those effects. 527 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: Forty seven and thirty five percent increase on children rescued. 528 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, and you got the guy that Abby Gate. 529 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: We got the abbey Gate guy. 530 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 7: The guy from the fourth District of Ohio lost his 531 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 7: life there serving our country. 532 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: We appreciate that. 533 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 7: Maybe when you're not focused on politics, you can actually 534 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 7: do what the FBI is supposed to do. 535 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: Go get the bad guys, right. 536 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: That's what the men and women of the FBI do. 537 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: It was a good reminder in all of this that 538 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: there is a lot law enforcement wise that's being done, 539 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: the stuff that, yes, this is what I voted for, 540 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: And I have no issue with Representative Jordan or Cash 541 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 2: Fattel touting those things and sharing those things. When it 542 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: comes to Jeffrey Epstein, I leave it here. There may 543 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: be things you can't share, and I accept this, but 544 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: I do not believe that everything that can be shared 545 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: is being shared. I don't believe that's the case. But 546 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: I think that Raskin and Goldman, their approach is just 547 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: how can we create sound bites? And for us, we 548 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: want data because people who abuse children need to be 549 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: in jail, no matter who they are, no matter their 550 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: political party, no matter their political connections, no matter how 551 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 2: much money they have. We cannot abide a society that 552 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 2: abuses kids. We have to find them and they have 553 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: to go to jail. I'm Tony Katz and this is 554 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 2: Tony Kats today. Stepping away from Epstein, we find that 555 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 2: Jerry of Ben and Jerry's is quit. I still won't 556 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 2: eat their ice cream. No, no, no, no, no, these self 557 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: hating freaks. Good gosh, Tony Kats, Tony Katz today, Good 558 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 2: to be with you. Ben and Jerry's the ice cream 559 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: purchased by Unilever, and they, if there's a social commentary 560 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: to make that is clearly on the wrong side of 561 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 2: decency and humanity. Ben and Jerry are there to make 562 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 2: it happen, but Jerry is leaving the brand because Unilever 563 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 2: won't let them speak out. I don't think anybody has 564 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 2: stopped you from being so embarrassing, so horrifically shameful. Certainly, 565 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 2: whether I argue it on the subject of Israel or 566 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: a host of other subjects. There seemingly is a real 567 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 2: issue with people who you took the money of the 568 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 2: other company, right. No one said you couldn't donate to causes, 569 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 2: no one said that you couldn't engage in levels of 570 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 2: private life. Done was stopping you. But you were attacking 571 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 2: the brand. You were doing damage to the brand, and 572 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 2: the job was not to do damage to the brand. 573 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: You took the money and then you said, how dare 574 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 2: you give me all that money. It's a very odd 575 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 2: take in my view, but I'll be very happy to 576 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 2: hear much less of Jerry, and I don't mind hearing 577 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 2: much less of them. They've been on the wrong side 578 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: of rational thought for far too long. Find everything at 579 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 2: Tony Katz dot com. Tomorrow, Everyone take care.