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Speaker 2: Rob Kendall will Google gives Shabaz Jim Merritt. The program

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Speaker 2: is State House Happenings, your weekly look at what's going

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Speaker 2: on with Indiana politics and the government. Before we begin

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Speaker 2: the program, let's meet the award winning panel you know

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Speaker 2: for thirty years and the Indiana sentate, the great Jim Merritt. Hello, Robert,

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Speaker 2: and you know him as the owner and operator of

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Speaker 2: Indiepolitics dot Org Abdula Kemshabaz, Hello, it's not tired this morning?

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Speaker 2: Uh what a charmed I guess. Yeah, all right, So

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Speaker 2: we got several topics to get to. I think we

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Speaker 2: program because sometimes people don't really know. I really don't

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Speaker 2: like any of these people. No, you don't say I

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Speaker 2: had no idea.

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Speaker 3: The question is who do you like?

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Speaker 2: Well, the very few I mean like I mean in

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Speaker 2: terms of the political system and with some of the things

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about here today or hopefully get to you today,

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Speaker 2: or the exact reason why these people tell you one

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Speaker 2: thing when they run and then they get in there

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Speaker 2: and then they do the exact tight like it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: You and I Jim have talked about this before about

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Speaker 2: I don't even know how to vet anybody. I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know because unless they have an actual

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Speaker 2: track record of doing it, which how few people are

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Speaker 2: there with that, you can't believe it or any of

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Speaker 2: these people saying I think that's why so many people

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Speaker 2: You can't believe in or believe almost any of these people.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 3: I think this little implosion with the Republican caucus in

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Speaker 3: know these people, what are there six of them.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there's one, two, three, four, five, six, yes, and

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Speaker 3: But being a former caucus chairman where you gather the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's you know, obviously you're an esteemed

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Speaker 2: a variety of reasons, just see no point in voting

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Speaker 2: because nothing ever seems to change. You invest in people,

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Speaker 2: you believe in people, and then you don't get anything different.

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Speaker 2: People just go, h what's foint?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think part of it is to a certain degree,

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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, they're people. At the

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Speaker 2: Well, also don't. Look, I don't believe anybody is any

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and I also believe it beloho's a politician.

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Speaker 4: If the policy's gonna be honest, it's like, hey, no,

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Speaker 3: Let let's let's circle the wagons here a little bit.

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Speaker 3: We have a situation with the Republicans and the City

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Speaker 3: feel like they want another leader because it purportedly it

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Speaker 2: So real quick, So the Republicans Monday night, there's six

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Speaker 2: he's moving a little quick for us. We don't like

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Speaker 2: all of these ideas. I talked to a very reliable

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Speaker 4: And so it's like, what what cause I would a

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Speaker 4: worgue with With Michael Paul Hart. People say he was being,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we thought. We we think he was.

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Speaker 2: But I've talked to again, like I said, just multiple

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Speaker 2: They had too many things going. They basically didn't want

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the it is confounding. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 3: it's more embarrassing for them to have a change than

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Speaker 2: For the change.

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Speaker 3: I mean it is just astoundingly.

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Speaker 4: And then and then they went back to the leader

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Speaker 2: Right, it's not that you went some new up and comer,

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Speaker 2: what we're gonna do. Went back to Brian Mowory, who

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Speaker 2: is as entertaining as glue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, it's just really, and are they trying

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Speaker 4: Hey, you get dysfunction, and you get dysfunction, and you

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Speaker 2: But the point of all this, and like I said,

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Speaker 2: talking to some people about this and they just didn't

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Speaker 2: have an answer. I said, So the Republicans are just

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Speaker 2: they're fine the status quo, the hog set never ending,

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Speaker 2: just drama, chaos and competence. Like just being there is

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Speaker 2: good enough for those It's very clear just being there

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Speaker 2: is good enough. They don't want to rock any boats,

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Speaker 2: they don't want any challengers or money thrown against them,

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Speaker 2: and they're just like, hey, cities and shambles, but this

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Speaker 3: Right, And you know it, really, when I heard all

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Speaker 3: this news, it gives a lot of credence to the

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Speaker 3: fact that you know the mayor, Mayor Joe hogs It,

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Speaker 3: he's on autopilot and he can run for reelection in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven and just kind of blow right through.

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Speaker 4: See that, I respect this Sagreer is my good friend,

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Speaker 4: Jim Merritt. I would say, right now, Hogs, that's on autopilot.

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Speaker 4: But I can assure you that there is video footage

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Speaker 4: of all the stuff that's happened over the past couple

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Speaker 4: of years. But we'll mysteriously resurface.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but doesn't make us any difference. That's a great question.

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Speaker 2: It clearly hasn't that far.

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Speaker 4: I would argue it does in the sense that it

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Speaker 4: drives a wedge amongst the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: If hoggs It gets a primary calendar. Okay, So we're

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Speaker 2: basically this is this fascinating. We're basically now operating from

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Speaker 2: the premise because I took multiple people that were in

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Speaker 2: the other night, and they said, Hoggs has running, Like

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Speaker 2: the speech that he gave was a guy who's running,

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Speaker 2: which what else are you gonna do? He's basically unhirable right,

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Speaker 2: given the drama, the chaos, the scandal, the all, you know,

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Speaker 2: his whole stuff. Well, you know, I'm not an agist.

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Speaker 3: Jim, Yeah, I am.

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Speaker 2: I never think you're old too. I'm old too, But

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Speaker 2: I mean the right. So I mean we're basically I mean,

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Speaker 2: who knows right whether Ryan Meuers runs or whether Oscily

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Speaker 2: Well sure, but I mean they're they're flawed what we

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Speaker 2: know about them from a policy perspective, Like there's things

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Speaker 2: we don't agree with them that they Joe oxit is

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Speaker 2: a personal dumpster fire. And but I I I just

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Speaker 2: think if he runs again, he'll win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think I think if Joe hoggs it

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Speaker 3: wants to run, is healthy enough to run, will run

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Speaker 3: and will win. There's no question about it. And everything

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Speaker 3: of kind of fallen off the the stage.

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Speaker 4: I will say this, A healthy economy solves the multitude

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Speaker 4: of issues.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And you know, if it is a balanced

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Speaker 3: budget that he presented, he can always he's always tied

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Speaker 2: And with that, a balanced budget Jimmy doesn't have a choice.

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Speaker 3: Well he can, he can offer a balanced budget with

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Speaker 3: raising taxes and that could be a problem, but just

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Speaker 3: doesn't seem like anybody's watching.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: No, The big thing in this budget wasn't necessarily the

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Speaker 4: the no tax pledge, which which I get. I thought

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Speaker 4: it was interesting, however, that they're laying the groundwork for

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Speaker 4: fee increases, not necessarily taxing the old Yeah that's a tax.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, no, Actually, actually technically it's not. Because a tax.

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Speaker 4: You you know, you don't have a choice. You have

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Speaker 4: to pay the fee if you want the service, then

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Speaker 4: then then you just.

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Speaker 2: Hit a couple of things they're thinking about charging fees for.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's see how now vital the service?

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Speaker 4: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: That's where yeah, exactly. I've been a part of this

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Speaker 2: game and fought it for years. Buddy, I'm the wrong

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Speaker 2: guy to try that with. Rob Kendall, O Goill, keeps

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Speaker 2: your boys, Jim Marrett, the program of State House happenings.

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Speaker 2: You're look what's going on with the Indiana politics and government.

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Speaker 2: And so I know you Abduah have filed a foyer

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Speaker 4: Those on the two apter requests we know about well

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Speaker 2: So then this is the point, it's like, you're guy,

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Speaker 2: You think Micah wouldn't love to have some massive victory

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Speaker 2: there's a grand jury investigation going on. Now he's tried

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Speaker 4: I have two cheeseburgers the loger fries.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the grand jury is like what huh?

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Speaker 2: So you're telling you're saying, the grand jury is that

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Speaker 4: But but then again, that's my job to find out

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Speaker 2: But the problem is that that they can't put any teeth.

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Speaker 2: This is all my fault. And it's like, wait a second,

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Speaker 2: Is safe? Is it safe to say that a grand

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Speaker 3: Past the there has to be something there and it's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, either either a you surely believe something has happened,

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Speaker 2: It smells funny. Yeah. So that him, uh Mike as

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Speaker 3: Right, and you know twenty eight it's twenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: And and by the way, if Governor Brown runs again, yes, yes,

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Speaker 4: Yes, I know for a fact that what the people

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Speaker 4: It started out as an AI porn investigation. But as

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Speaker 4: What's that? It has led to much more stones, much

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Speaker 2: Right now, though, we just want to say thanks to

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Speaker 2: our friends at Freedom Foods Indiana for supporting State House Happenings.

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Speaker 2: Rob Kendall, Abdulaquim Shabaz, Jim Merritt. The program of State

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Speaker 2: House Happenings you a weekly look at what's going on

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Speaker 2: with Indiana politics and government. Last thing I wanted to

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Speaker 2: get today is the redistricting bron Braun. You ever noticed

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Speaker 2: Braun will never make a definitive statement, like he'd never

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Speaker 2: He's always just like every he's so wishy washy.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was confused the other day. I thought I

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Speaker 3: saw a comment by him that they're they're watching what

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Speaker 3: is happening in Texas.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said. What does that have to do

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Speaker 2: with here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it has nothing to do with it because

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Speaker 3: in ten minutes.

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Speaker 4: And I know for a fact that Speaker, Speaker Houston

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Speaker 4: and Rod Bray want nothing to do with this.

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Speaker 2: They are not fans. No, they are not fans all

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Speaker 2: telling them that, Yeah, they're like, what the blank are you? No?

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Speaker 4: Because it opens up a whold of the can of worms.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a disaster. And and what I think?

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Speaker 4: What they I think? What?

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Speaker 2: What they what? What?

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Speaker 4: What team Braun is is the smart people in Braun's administration,

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Speaker 4: They really are some smart people. They're like, look, Governor,

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Speaker 4: if we were to do this, not only would this

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Speaker 4: totally screw the screw up the whole system, but number two,

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Speaker 4: it would open up the whole can of worms and

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Speaker 4: unleash holy hell because it looks like you're going after

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Speaker 4: black voters and trying to dilute and take away their strength.

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Speaker 4: And because you've got the African American voters in Gary

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Speaker 4: and that was screamed down here Indianapolis, and they start

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Speaker 4: coming out and I don't notice effect the congression race.

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Speaker 4: It effects a whole race. Stayed wide.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm sure those guys because Adam Ran

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Speaker 2: of Politico pointed this out. There was a video of

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Speaker 2: those guys walking out of that meeting with jd Vance

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Speaker 2: and Braun last week and he was putting out, look

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Speaker 2: at the look on these guys faces. Do they look

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Speaker 2: like they're happy to be here? And and you're right

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Speaker 2: right now, all you have to do as a Republican

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Speaker 2: is stay scandal free and just show up and you're

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Speaker 2: just gonna keep winning for the most part. Why would

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Speaker 2: you risk anything to throw that off? What so that

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Speaker 2: Trump can get one more seat? And what do they

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Speaker 2: care about that they're in the state. You know, they

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Speaker 2: lead the state and they're potentially gonna create a firestorm

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Speaker 2: and they and they don't get anything out of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because because Jade Vance also I want to say, uh,

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Speaker 4: I almost like, hey, let's just go for it instead

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Speaker 4: of because seven, because sometimes seven to two just isn't enough.

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Speaker 4: So like, hey, let's go for the whole bally like

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Speaker 4: like like like nine, like to split up the seventh

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Speaker 4: the wrestle district, Like are you first of all the

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Speaker 4: lawsuits that would come from that? And number two, you

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Speaker 4: want to you want to wake up, you want to

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Speaker 4: wake up a whole a hornets nest. You start taking

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Speaker 4: off African American voters, they start coming out and droves.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but also you look at it on some people

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Speaker 3: don't really look this deep into it, But where's the data,

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Speaker 3: you know, Wor's census, you know, what are you going

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Speaker 3: to build this on? Because every ten years I saw it.

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Speaker 3: We we had justification for these districts that we wrote

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Speaker 3: that we drew in nineteen ninety one, two thousand and one,

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Speaker 3: twenty eleven, twenty twenty one, and there it's not there

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Speaker 3: for the you know, to establish the new districts. Because

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Speaker 3: this is more than just you know, taking out all

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Speaker 3: the Democrat districts. This is how it's just going to

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Speaker 3: impact all the other districts. So it's it's a real puzzle,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think the data is there.

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Speaker 4: And you can make you make you can make the

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Speaker 4: first district more republican. First of all, you're not going

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Speaker 4: to get rid of Frank Van because my rand lives

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Speaker 4: in Maryville, which is right on the border. Right, let's

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Speaker 4: you just split Maraville in half. And number two. By

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Speaker 4: making the first district more republican, you make the second

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Speaker 4: Congression district less republican.

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Speaker 2: That's my point because because.

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Speaker 4: Remember it's like Tetris, piece over here, piece over here,

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Speaker 4: and you start playing games. What was once a seven

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Speaker 4: to two is now more like a five to fool.

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Speaker 2: We got, we got, We had about two and two,

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Speaker 2: two and a half minutes left. Here's what some people,

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Speaker 2: me being one of them, are enraged about. Braun was

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Speaker 2: adamant during the legislative session. Well, there's no point of

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Speaker 2: me betewing the property tax bill and calling a special session.

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Speaker 2: Special session is a waste of time. And now you're

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Speaker 2: saying that on a thing that would help millions of people.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows that's that that bills a dumpster fire. You

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Speaker 2: weren't willing to stand up and fight on that. But

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Speaker 2: to get one more seat in Congress, she'll do this.

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Speaker 2: What an insult in a slap in the face to

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Speaker 2: the people of this state.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's go back to April fifteenth with the economic forecast.

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Speaker 3: I said at that time they should have sundy died,

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Speaker 3: you know, adjourned, say we're gonna come back in late

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Speaker 3: June when things settled down with taxes, with the UH

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Speaker 3: all the tariffs and everything, all the disrupt in April

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Speaker 3: UH and and things are going to be a lot

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Speaker 3: better in mid to late June. And you can and

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Speaker 3: you can be nimble and make a good decision on

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Speaker 3: property taxes, on the budget and anything else you need

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Speaker 3: to And and the legislature did not do it because

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Speaker 3: it's it's not the protocol. And I wish they had

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Speaker 3: done it, and and we'd be in a lot better shape.

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Speaker 3: People who in December left their their jobs, their careers

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Speaker 3: to go serve in the broad administration and then they

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Speaker 3: get cut because there isn't any money, if you know,

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Speaker 3: perceived any money for the forecast. And it's just a

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Speaker 3: shame that the State of Indiana wasn't more nimble UH

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Speaker 3: in understanding that was just a wave of bad news

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Speaker 3: that would not be there in June.

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Speaker 2: You got about twenty seconds left to do it. Last

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Speaker 2: word school starts in a couple of weeks. Thank God,

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Speaker 2: all right, good Jim MERRITI, Bill gives you Baz, thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 2: and their chicken and pork is raised right here in Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Happenings also wants to thank our fine friends at Freedom

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Speaker 2: Foods Indiana. Former Ryan Schliman and the folks at Freedom

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Speaker 2: fe Foods Indiana have been delivering fresh fruits and vegetables

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Speaker 2: right to people's doors for years and Freedom Foods Indiana

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Speaker 2: is a big supporter of State House Happenings. Now, Freedom

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Speaker 2: Foods Indiana has some big things coming. We can't wait

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Speaker 2: to tell you all about it in the near future.

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Speaker 2: Right now, though, we just want to say thanks to

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Speaker 2: our friends at Freedom Foods Indiana for supporting State House Happenings.

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Speaker 2: Rob Kendall Duell gives you Baz Jim Merritt the program

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Speaker 2: at State House Happenings your weekly look at what's going

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Speaker 2: on with Indiana politics and government. Don't forget you find

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Speaker 2: Jim Merritt on Twitter at Jim Underscore Merit at Jim

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Speaker 2: Underscore Merrit. Abduel on Twitter at at tyab Duel at

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Speaker 2: at Tyabduel me I'm on Twitter at Robim Kendall at

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Speaker 2: Robim Kendall and you can hear me weekdays, nine until

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Speaker 2: noon The Kendall and Casey Show, a ninety three point

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Speaker 2: one WIBC. That's gonna do it for us this week

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Speaker 2: forb Duel keeps you, Baz or Jim Merritt. I'm Rob Kendall.

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