Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to another France per second podcast review.
Speaker 1: We are today.
Speaker 2: We are doing a new A twenty four film, How
Speaker 2: to Make a Killing Them.
Speaker 3: And they had a hit with Martin Supreme made all
Speaker 3: their money back losses, losses.
Speaker 1: I'm just fun. But there was one smash machine that
Speaker 1: was a loss. Yeah, wow, nobody go see that. Yeah
Speaker 1: the movie isn't it? Do we not?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: You didn't like? We like? I don't said he did
Speaker 1: a good job.
Speaker 5: Okay, maybe that's what it is, like good job, but
Speaker 5: we the movie yourself wasn't good?
Speaker 1: Remember nothing nothing? Remember why you can't remember? Literally nothing
Speaker 1: happened in the movie. Literally, So you just watch the
Speaker 1: black screen two hours.
Speaker 4: See how Spike rose. But you gotta work on that, right.
Speaker 4: I can't do that. I can do it sometimes sometimes
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 1: Any way, Man, I'll hear all the voices.
Speaker 2: I am not here alone in front of to the
Speaker 2: right of me, I got kenned by what something?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: In front of him, I got Spike Man and next
Speaker 2: to him got Mike c. Town And I'm your host.
Speaker 1: Ride man.
Speaker 4: We are here to review this movie.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is like considered a black comedy, thriller,
Speaker 2: and I typically like dark comedy.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, I know my bad. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: dark comedy.
Speaker 6: It can be a black comedy. Black doesn't mean like
Speaker 6: black people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like dark, say dark.
Speaker 4: But that's why Spike was laughing.
Speaker 2: So I didn't see a single, right, But nah, man,
Speaker 2: it's directed by John Patton four. Anybody feeling with him?
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, and starring Glenn Powell, Jessica and Henwig. Uh
Speaker 2: it Mark Margaret that's her name, Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's
Speaker 2: up and coming.
Speaker 1: I like her.
Speaker 5: But that was the brunette that was like the sex
Speaker 5: pot that was Yeah. But yeah, man, I guess I'll
Speaker 5: just go around the room just kind of where anybody
Speaker 5: anticipating seeing this that y'all know about it or anything.
Speaker 4: I've seen the preview. It looked mildly interesting.
Speaker 1: Anybody else. I don't know anything about this movie.
Speaker 3: I just saw it on the calendar and I was
Speaker 3: looking for showtimes. I thought maybe something on streaming. I
Speaker 3: couldn't find any showtimes. I was like, well the show.
Speaker 1: Time you get?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, man, it looked like it was next week,
Speaker 3: So I was like, oh.
Speaker 1: We got the wrong date on here.
Speaker 3: I didn't go see it until Saturday when I was
Speaker 3: going back through, you know, prepping for tomorrow, just looking
Speaker 3: at everything, make sure I was ready. And then I
Speaker 3: was like, then that's when I saw that it was
Speaker 3: actually at the movie theater.
Speaker 1: It was out by us. I know. I went.
Speaker 4: I went Thursday, win. I can't like you, dumb mother
Speaker 4: the fucker.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 4: I went and saw the ship. You see I'm sitting here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw it was tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I went ten fifteen, ten thirty Saturday, so I bought
Speaker 3: my tick in at ten thirty three. They got there
Speaker 3: like at the last second, you know, before it started,
Speaker 3: but lash By missed miss I'm finna say.
Speaker 4: I walked in and he was already in the like talking.
Speaker 1: To the Yeah, I did the same thing.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was already talking to the priest. When I
Speaker 5: walked in. I was like saying, yeah, what was a preview, saying.
Speaker 6: Y'all get there on times because because y'all saying it
Speaker 6: like it's something wrong with the movie, y'all twenty I did.
Speaker 4: I had a full twenty minute, so.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I got there like twenty minutes and they were already
Speaker 4: talking to the.
Speaker 5: Previous I got the twenty minutes and there was and
Speaker 5: started for one not lie, I take what's for one fifty.
Speaker 5: I got there at two o'clock and it started, you shock, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I was. I was legit like it started already.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think this has started quicker for
Speaker 4: no reasons.
Speaker 1: I was late.
Speaker 4: You're right, just to be honest, right.
Speaker 1: Because that is three minutes after this.
Speaker 5: I don't feel like one two o'clock forcause to one fifteen.
Speaker 5: I was I would Friday because I didn't want to
Speaker 5: do it Saturday. So I was like, I just go
Speaker 5: at one fifty.
Speaker 1: I know, there ain't no way. There was.
Speaker 5: Two o'clock and it was playing that your movie was
Speaker 5: supposed to be at one one you saw five and
Speaker 5: it was a three spike.
Speaker 4: Oh no, well I can't relate the spike.
Speaker 2: I normally get there. I don't like always look at
Speaker 2: the trailer. So I get there about twenty minutes after whatever.
Speaker 2: And yeah, by the time I got there with Spiked,
Speaker 2: he was already talking to the pastor. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it was ten minutes whatever like you were saying,
Speaker 2: but I got there twenty minutes he was already talking
Speaker 2: to him, and I was just like, hmm okay. So
Speaker 2: hearing him say that, it was just like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: not crazy because I'm like, damn.
Speaker 1: Shit already started. That's happened to me before. But anyway, anyway, man,
Speaker 1: how did you like the movie? Mike?
Speaker 5: I don't remember talking about this. I do trust you, Dalen.
Speaker 5: If you put it on there, I believe you. I'm
Speaker 5: not giving you no shit. I didn't know what this was.
Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, I'll just go see it.
Speaker 6: I knew nothing sitting down, and by the end of
Speaker 6: this shit, I was cussing every one of y'all out.
Speaker 6: This was some bullshit. This was some fucking bullshit. I
Speaker 6: don't understand how shit like this gets fucking made.
Speaker 5: This movie should have been called predictable, predictable, a love story.
Speaker 4: This was bullshit. What the fuck was this? What the
Speaker 4: fuck was this?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 6: I assumed you just stuck it out there because we
Speaker 6: must not have responded to.
Speaker 4: A text or something, because I don't remember.
Speaker 1: Saying figures, fucking figures. I don't remember. I probably did.
Speaker 1: I said.
Speaker 4: It was nothing, it was a twenty four. I was
Speaker 4: like four nothing no more. I'm saying, yeah, what they said,
Speaker 4: that's not what we said. That's not what we're saying.
Speaker 5: And I urge everyone listening to Rodingkins bullshit to go
Speaker 5: back and listen to the conversation.
Speaker 1: And like, I was, like, it.
Speaker 4: Seems like it's it's not popular, but it's something that people.
Speaker 1: You know, it was on some preview of what some
Speaker 1: movie you watched? Why?
Speaker 5: And again, ain't nobody talking about this bullshit? Ain't nobody
Speaker 5: It was a preview.
Speaker 1: It was a p So you say twenty four doesn't
Speaker 1: mean yes.
Speaker 6: I said that then too, So I never said that
Speaker 6: a twenty four actually means that this movie is gonna
Speaker 6: be amazing. I said that they weren't listening as usual.
Speaker 6: He did because he said, it's just a production house.
Speaker 6: He said that control it's.
Speaker 4: Fine, Spike, out my back. It wouldn't be fine if
Speaker 4: you weren't here. Spike, He's still be trying to argue.
Speaker 4: I'm not trying.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to fan. No, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that the read my reasoning as so
Speaker 2: a while. I just brought it to the table. Twenty
Speaker 2: four I saw, I didn't preview of another movie we watched.
Speaker 2: I feel like we liked or something like that, and
Speaker 2: I was like, Hey, is this movie coming out? And
Speaker 2: we were saying we didn't have many options.
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, with that's going nothing would have
Speaker 4: been a better option.
Speaker 2: Rob, Hey, I ain't look, I ain't know what time
Speaker 2: you feel about this fight.
Speaker 5: Your boy just don't work for me. Ken They trying
Speaker 5: to push what was the other movie? How much he's
Speaker 5: not it?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 5: He like this could have been better if it were
Speaker 5: more Compellingly, I feel like like him telling the story
Speaker 5: from the jail could have been better. He's just not
Speaker 5: a good He's not good, he's not interesting. He like
Speaker 5: just a normal white dude, Like I don't like, I'm
Speaker 5: not I don't. He don't jump off the screen anything
Speaker 5: to me. I don't see why they trying to push him.
Speaker 5: But I'm with Mike in the sense of it was predictable.
Speaker 5: I didn't hate it as much, but you've seen where
Speaker 5: this was going, like from the I seen the preview
Speaker 5: and yeah, yeah, and then when it starts out with
Speaker 5: him in jail, even more confirms of how it's going
Speaker 5: to end.
Speaker 4: But I didn't hate but it just wouldn't It was
Speaker 4: a movie, y'all.
Speaker 1: Hope I was hoping it was going to be different
Speaker 1: from the preview. I was hoping it was.
Speaker 2: Going to be a deeper type of I want to say,
Speaker 2: they showed three of the deaths in the previews, like
Speaker 2: it's crazy the ocean when they showed I want to say,
Speaker 2: they showed the picture one and they showed the lady
Speaker 2: with the in the So showed all this in the preview, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's crazy when that's the premise of the movie, Like
Speaker 2: you showed the killings.
Speaker 1: How you been fu I didn't think it was that bad, lie,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 5: You just assumed the beginning was good.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was that bad.
Speaker 3: I didn't expect much from it. In all honesty, it
Speaker 3: seemed like it's your This seemed like this is some
Speaker 3: ship that would have came out in the nineties, you know,
Speaker 3: your typical, average, straight through, predictable, running the mill love
Speaker 3: story movie.
Speaker 1: And that was it.
Speaker 3: And you know, there's no depth to it, really, you know,
Speaker 3: until he tried to pull that ship at the at
Speaker 3: the at the end. But for the most part, you know,
Speaker 3: I got what I expected. I didn't know anything about
Speaker 3: it either. So when I walked in, he it was
Speaker 3: like Herrodance was like, Okay, he's gonna try to kill everybody.
Speaker 1: Makes sense to me. Cool, So it's probably closed.
Speaker 4: It's just it's not closed, Oh because it because it's
Speaker 4: cracked up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't think it was that bad.
Speaker 4: So you're still with you're still on the Glen Poll train.
Speaker 1: What's the train that you're on?
Speaker 3: I just I was just saying that that's the new
Speaker 3: guy that they're trying to push.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is mean.
Speaker 6: He's on a train. He saw a train riding by.
Speaker 1: But you like Running Man though, right? You liked him
Speaker 1: as Running Man?
Speaker 3: I thought you did, but what I but yeah, but
Speaker 3: that's different, like in the movie. Is different from saying
Speaker 3: that this is the guy because he was in Twister.
Speaker 3: He was just something else and now he's in this one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: y'all don't like Running Man. So yeah, so, and I
Speaker 3: think he works great for a movie like this because
Speaker 3: it doesn't require much from him.
Speaker 5: Oh see, that's where I disagree. So that's where, yes, yeah,
Speaker 5: you have at least.
Speaker 1: One foot on the train.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he just looks like Spike nailed it like one hundred.
Speaker 6: But he just looks like your average and acts like
Speaker 6: your average ass white.
Speaker 1: I think that works for Hollywood and least Blockbuster.
Speaker 6: I think if you had an interesting white guy that
Speaker 6: was conveying the story in a more compelling way, the
Speaker 6: script is still bad, but at least it would be
Speaker 6: it because he's just he smiles.
Speaker 5: He's not he lips, so he always just he has
Speaker 5: like a rangutan lips, so he's always just smiling.
Speaker 6: And when he smiles, it's just like, I don't feel
Speaker 6: anything here.
Speaker 1: Like he's supposed to.
Speaker 5: Be compell has he's supposed to be compelling telling this story.
Speaker 1: He's just he's not. It's not a good narrator the whole. Yeah.
Speaker 2: With that said, yeah, I didn't. I didn't like the
Speaker 2: movie either. Like I just gonna say something.
Speaker 3: I was just saying that he was described to me
Speaker 3: as the new this Matthew McConaughey.
Speaker 4: That's not.
Speaker 6: Chops, not like Matthew mcca. I don't even fun with
Speaker 6: him like that. But that's a that's an acting ass
Speaker 6: white he is Matthew McConaughey.
Speaker 2: The voice alone, Horse alone is just more impactful than
Speaker 2: this guy. He just he's just not the guy. Man,
Speaker 2: He's not the guy. And and this could have been
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit better with a different person, but
Speaker 2: it's still just lacked depth to me, like it seemed
Speaker 2: like it needed something else.
Speaker 1: Uh, you need a new.
Speaker 6: Script that hasn't been done before this script like it's
Speaker 6: been done a hundred times already.
Speaker 2: It does and not even in a in a creative
Speaker 2: way like like like, and I feel like they underutilized
Speaker 2: Margaret uh quality.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say the same thing. She was not.
Speaker 6: She was poorly cast. He's hot, but she's not like
Speaker 6: that kind of hot. Yeah yeah, yeah, Like you need
Speaker 6: someone that's like conventionally hot for a role like that.
Speaker 4: She doesn't do it.
Speaker 1: Nah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I wasn't even talking about it from that degree.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that you are. I'm just saying that that.
Speaker 2: I just feel like they're underutilized it because she I
Speaker 2: feel like she does have chops and I feel like
Speaker 2: she does is compelling as a character.
Speaker 4: She was the best thing about the movie.
Speaker 1: She was barely in it.
Speaker 2: And I feel like they went the like Felm Fatale
Speaker 2: route with this and you didn't really get much of her,
Speaker 2: Like why would you go that route with this movie
Speaker 2: and not show enough of her? You know, I don't
Speaker 2: know any Felm Fatale type movies that do that, like
Speaker 2: they just I don't know, it was weird.
Speaker 5: I didn't believe her as a femme fatale. That was
Speaker 5: my issue, Like I didn't believe her.
Speaker 4: They didn't.
Speaker 1: They didn't.
Speaker 4: They didn't really show it, That's what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 4: she came in, she had she she had some influence
Speaker 4: or whatever, and that was it, and it just pulled
Speaker 4: her out of it. I just did not get that.
Speaker 6: Even when she's like stretching her leg and trying to
Speaker 6: look sexy.
Speaker 1: And stuff, I'm not I'm.
Speaker 4: Not getting that from you.
Speaker 6: I can't even think of someone that we could have
Speaker 6: replaced her with, like a more sex pot kind of
Speaker 6: white woman. I can't think of one right now. Be
Speaker 6: a Megan, I don't get it from me. A goth either.
Speaker 6: A goth isn't conventionally attraction.
Speaker 4: He's not conventionally, But I think that's what.
Speaker 6: But fem fatales are conventional, convintioned Sidney Sweeney.
Speaker 1: If she wasn't a Nazi, that's true. Yeah, I've been
Speaker 1: off the same man, we've been.
Speaker 6: Everybody's off the city swingey train. But yeah, she's trying
Speaker 6: to come back. She trying, she's apologizing it.
Speaker 4: It's too late, too late, Sydney.
Speaker 5: But yeah, pre Nazi Sidney Sweeney would have been per
Speaker 5: perfect for this.
Speaker 4: Yes, well let's get into it. Man, We're not gonna
Speaker 4: stay here long.
Speaker 1: It's really basic, basic, basic plot.
Speaker 2: But the film starts off Beckett is doing a he's
Speaker 2: upcoming for execution. This is what you and I can
Speaker 2: He was talking to the UH, to the priest or whatever,
Speaker 2: and he's basically just giving him a backstory everything that
Speaker 2: he's done with these murders. Was this compelling to y'all
Speaker 2: at all? Did this peak any interest? When we start
Speaker 2: off this way, anybody.
Speaker 1: Can take it.
Speaker 5: Not to beat the dale horse, but this is immediately
Speaker 5: you knew he wasn't the right person for this role,
Speaker 5: Like when he started telling the story. Like, there's similar
Speaker 5: TV shows of movies that work like this because the
Speaker 5: storyteller is compelling. And I knew immediately once he started
Speaker 5: was talking to the priests. No, it's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: Same.
Speaker 6: I got the same feeling, but I didn't know that's
Speaker 6: what it was until Spike said it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the same way, man, just his voice, he is
Speaker 4: not captivating him.
Speaker 1: It sounds so.
Speaker 4: Blande y'all are spot on.
Speaker 1: Sounds so bland, But Ken, you gotta separtate on that.
Speaker 4: Ken is your man.
Speaker 1: You gotta defend Ken like his lips.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, it's just basically, this is my story
Speaker 3: and how I got here, you know. And you know,
Speaker 3: my wife, my mom came from money. She got disavolved,
Speaker 3: and this is the way I can earn my money
Speaker 3: because of the disinvolvement and the trust. They put me
Speaker 3: way at the bottom. And they are these people that
Speaker 3: are so yeah, pretty basic, basic setup got you.
Speaker 2: And to that point, yeah, his mom was an exiled
Speaker 2: because she had him like as a teen or whatnot.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, he basically goes through that, uh and
Speaker 2: as a young boy, he used his potential to inherit,
Speaker 2: deflecting his working class status and befriend the more influent Julia,
Speaker 2: which is basically stop yeah, which is like the feind
Speaker 2: Fatalities movie or whatever.
Speaker 1: So they kind of show how she is.
Speaker 2: Earlier on, like you know, with gifts and wanting things
Speaker 2: and kind of manipulative in a way.
Speaker 1: Anybody take anything from that. Didn't care. I didn't care either,
Speaker 1: Like I just it just wasn't enough set up.
Speaker 4: It wasn't it got right, it got right to it.
Speaker 1: It just wasn't enough set up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think she was gonna come back the
Speaker 3: way they kind of did it in the in the beginning,
Speaker 3: because like, oh, I met her at this part and
Speaker 3: that's when I saw Julius Stein and she came over
Speaker 3: to me, and she was talking about.
Speaker 1: How I get here, so again, like.
Speaker 3: You're in a situation where you don't belong because of
Speaker 3: your your uh status, your class status, you know, and
Speaker 3: she was basically hitting on him. So she showed like
Speaker 3: even as a child, there was this sort of aggression
Speaker 3: that she had and like you said, manipulation, you know,
Speaker 3: like are you hitting on me? You're trying to preframe me.
Speaker 3: It's okay if you want. And even when they were
Speaker 3: doing the the piano, uh.
Speaker 4: Right, I thought she had something to do with it.
Speaker 1: I don't think so too much of the movie. I
Speaker 1: was which.
Speaker 4: Like, what's somebody was gonna make it a horror story?
Speaker 4: I just thought that I thought maybe she rigged it
Speaker 4: or something like.
Speaker 5: I just thought that she was doing it because dude
Speaker 5: was gonna better than him, No, no.
Speaker 4: Make it better, trying to make it way better.
Speaker 3: Nah, I think I think in that in that scene,
Speaker 3: I don't know if this knows. It just shows that
Speaker 3: he's that people in that class have more access to things,
Speaker 3: and even though he probably could have trained, have been better,
Speaker 3: but there were people better than him, and he was
Speaker 3: at the little wrong of the thing of this whole
Speaker 3: society that he was a part of, and he didn't
Speaker 3: fit in nor belong. But it also showed once again
Speaker 3: like she was more aggressive. You know, she kissed him
Speaker 3: instead of him kissing her. So, you know what, I'm
Speaker 3: just not realizing.
Speaker 6: The issue is he's he's too see Margaret quality to
Speaker 6: me isn't isn't conventionally good looking enough, And he's too
Speaker 6: conventionally good looking. He doesn't seem like a motherfucker that
Speaker 6: came from the dirt. Put Jeremy Renner ass in there.
Speaker 6: That motherfucker looked like he hadn't been through some ship.
Speaker 6: Put Tom hard Hardy in there, who he Women think
Speaker 6: he's very handsome, but he always looks dirty as hell
Speaker 6: to me. Or put fucking Daryl from Walking Dead. I'm
Speaker 6: gonna believe this story. If Daryl's telling that this movie
Speaker 6: is a one, that's a good point.
Speaker 5: Daryl's gonna tell y'all, man, you know, I'm always been
Speaker 5: at the bottom of the always been there. I don't
Speaker 5: need to talk to no priest this shit. I would
Speaker 5: be like, oh, what else happened, Darryl? How'd you get there,
Speaker 5: darryld This motherfucker.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: But don't you think that could work in the opposite
Speaker 3: way though, because he has the looks, one could say
Speaker 3: that it shows that he doesn't belong.
Speaker 6: But that's what I'm saying, like, like, when you clean
Speaker 6: Daryl up, you know, Daryl used to be a male model.
Speaker 4: When that's what I read.
Speaker 5: At least, when you clean Daryl up, he's a handsome guy.
Speaker 5: When you clean Tom Hardy up, he's a handsome guy.
Speaker 6: But when you don't clean him up, those motherfuckers look
Speaker 6: filthy all throughout Venom. Tom Hardy look like he needs
Speaker 6: twelve fags.
Speaker 3: They have a rugget look to him, right, Yeah, a handsome,
Speaker 3: rugged guy though, but you know, and they love you know,
Speaker 3: Hollywood love good looking white that's her favorite thing.
Speaker 6: But this is not the right role for a super handsome,
Speaker 6: good looking white man that can't really convey any kind
Speaker 6: of emotion.
Speaker 1: So Tom Cruise want to work, Brad.
Speaker 6: I think wouldn't wouldn't have worked because he's not really
Speaker 6: a good actor.
Speaker 1: He's not a good actor. He's not keep it moving.
Speaker 2: So yeah, mother dies and she wants him to have
Speaker 2: the life that he deserves. So then he goes to
Speaker 2: the state trying to reclaim that, but he's rejected by
Speaker 2: written letter like.
Speaker 1: They just brought up. I hope this finds you will.
Speaker 5: That's a kid, nuts the best person to do that
Speaker 5: to his little kid.
Speaker 1: I hope he can read it.
Speaker 3: Geez, that was a line that stuck out to me,
Speaker 3: and that was funny, he said, Because we hope this
Speaker 3: finds you are like, damn, that's called and.
Speaker 1: Then he recited the line. I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that hits you. Sure.
Speaker 2: So we flashed forward to where he's an adult. Now
Speaker 2: he works, he's a suit salesman in New York, and
Speaker 2: then he has a chance encountered with Julia again. This
Speaker 2: is one of the rare times we see her again. Wait,
Speaker 2: am I making too much of it?
Speaker 1: Y'all?
Speaker 4: Don't think she wasn't looking for him?
Speaker 6: No, No, I do think. Well I thought she did too,
Speaker 6: But now that I'm taking it out, you know, that
Speaker 6: doesn't make any sense because he didn't have any kind
Speaker 6: of money or access yet, but she.
Speaker 5: Still knew he had access to it because he told
Speaker 5: her a long time ago. I thought she went looking
Speaker 5: for him to get out. I thought she set this
Speaker 5: whole ship up.
Speaker 6: I don't think Spike is crazy. I think that could
Speaker 6: be something.
Speaker 1: It could be.
Speaker 6: But maybe once she saw him working at that suit store,
Speaker 6: she's like, oh, you ain't shit. Let me just go
Speaker 6: ahead and leave and just keep an eye on you.
Speaker 5: I thought that she looked him up because he was
Speaker 5: She knew from when she told him they was young,
Speaker 5: that he was running going to wun into that money eventually.
Speaker 4: And she did this the plank to seed like you
Speaker 4: should get to it, because.
Speaker 1: She said that when she walked out the door.
Speaker 3: I know, but that was just a catchphrase she told
Speaker 3: us when she got hipped on to it.
Speaker 1: Later in the movie.
Speaker 5: I thought she was what was she doing in this store?
Speaker 5: I think they were about she was about to get
Speaker 5: married to the guy. I was, Yeah, Her husband was outside.
Speaker 5: He sure was this is bad. This is bad writing,
Speaker 5: bad right, because she told him, Hey, my friend works
Speaker 5: in there such and such.
Speaker 3: He said, Oh, it wun't surprised me that, you know,
Speaker 3: he was ended up working in the spot like this.
Speaker 5: This is really bad writing, man, because like y'all just
Speaker 5: happened to walk by and she's like, oh, dude's in there.
Speaker 1: But that's a rope romantic comedy sort of movie anyway.
Speaker 6: But you hit it on the head early when you
Speaker 6: said this is this would be a movie from the nineties.
Speaker 6: Before this had been done one hundred and eighty thousand times.
Speaker 6: But now that we're in twenty twenty six, it's starting
Speaker 6: to be just like, all right, bro, we're too smart
Speaker 6: for this. You just happened to be walking by and
Speaker 6: you saw him in there, and you recognize him, but
Speaker 6: you don't see him since you were kids.
Speaker 1: For the Yeah, that's general population. That's fine. You're right,
Speaker 1: it's fine. That's why pop music follows this template.
Speaker 4: You're right, you know that's you're right whether yeah, question
Speaker 4: it to it at some point, but it just still
Speaker 4: wasn't enough for me.
Speaker 5: It's worse now than I thought. I thought she was
Speaker 5: like some mastermind of I.
Speaker 1: Would have made the movie. But it would have.
Speaker 2: It would have That's why that's what I said, Like
Speaker 2: I noticed it was trying to be a far fitime movie,
Speaker 2: but it just didn't execute it well. Like, yeah, it
Speaker 2: just isn't crazy. Yeah, it just didn't do it well anyway,
Speaker 2: So she knows she realizes. Okay, like y'all said, he
Speaker 2: ain't ship.
Speaker 4: Less shit because they sent him to the warehouse.
Speaker 2: Right, because like they're saying, like in online, saying that
Speaker 2: he didn't even know like that wasn't what sparked him
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 1: Get the inheritance.
Speaker 2: It was the fact that the owner, which is next
Speaker 2: how is their son to be to take his place,
Speaker 2: basically to be the next in line for ye we
Speaker 2: that nepotism, So that's what I'm saying. So so it
Speaker 2: was that that sparked the idea for him to go
Speaker 2: after his inheritance or whatever.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't her per se.
Speaker 6: I never thought it was her that made him go
Speaker 6: after it. I thought she didn't know that he hadn't
Speaker 6: gone out.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about Spike. Spike thought it was Dan.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Spike.
Speaker 4: I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Spike, stupid not you might.
Speaker 4: You don't like when other people drag your shit out.
Speaker 4: See how I feel.
Speaker 1: I tried to did it. Though I tried to did it.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of Danny, we got our first attempt to kill.
Speaker 2: He goes after the first Son Hampton style party. Anything
Speaker 2: interests you all about this first kill? This is where he.
Speaker 4: H you know, he goes on the boat and all
Speaker 4: of that.
Speaker 1: He has the.
Speaker 4: Trope of having a hat on with the glasses every time.
Speaker 1: Every time.
Speaker 5: You got to ignore so much to even like go
Speaker 5: with this movie, Like nobody's seen you riding Dolo out
Speaker 5: to the boat on the jet ski.
Speaker 4: Like it's just you had to ignore so much. But
Speaker 4: I mean movie matchic.
Speaker 6: Wait a minute, no, I'm going back to Spike's theory
Speaker 6: because Otherwise, why would she have all those pictures of
Speaker 6: him she was stalking him? She had after no, she
Speaker 6: had pictures of him going to the boat. Why would
Speaker 6: she have pictured him going to the boat?
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, she's she said that after this is
Speaker 3: when she got onto it.
Speaker 4: After the first killing.
Speaker 6: I thought she had pictures him going to the boat.
Speaker 4: So she said, I could have swore he was on
Speaker 4: the jet skin one of them. I could have sworn
Speaker 4: he was too.
Speaker 1: I don't know because if it was, I missed that.
Speaker 2: But maybe that she said afterwards, she noticed that he
Speaker 2: was like an Olympic swimmer, and she's like, there's no
Speaker 2: way he could have drowned, so that that.
Speaker 4: You're right, You're right, you're right, But they could have
Speaker 4: shown it could have been nor could have been a
Speaker 4: picture there.
Speaker 1: I don't know, No, you're right. Yeah, I don't remember what.
Speaker 1: But he said, y'all right, goddamn move on.
Speaker 4: Ship said y'all right twelve times.
Speaker 1: So this.
Speaker 3: Was interesting because I was like, how the hell is
Speaker 3: he gonna first how the hell he's gonna find a
Speaker 3: way to kill all these people? Yes, And how the
Speaker 3: hell is he gonna end up killing the first person
Speaker 3: who just happened to be drunk on the boat.
Speaker 1: So movie ship and.
Speaker 3: I guess you can say that they would assume that
Speaker 3: he was throwing an anchor and somehow that got wrapped.
Speaker 3: They didn't go into a lot of explanation. They just
Speaker 3: went to the to the funeral. I didn't think it
Speaker 3: was funny. It was like, oh, it's that easy, even
Speaker 3: though it was asked. So I did find that interesting. However,
Speaker 3: I am in agreement with you a little bit, Spike,
Speaker 3: because he did not look like he belonged at that party.
Speaker 1: Because there was a bunch of young people there in.
Speaker 4: His he was the only one that remember remember him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he looked like didn't fit. You know.
Speaker 3: It looked like he's saying, I look like an old
Speaker 3: guy trying to go to you.
Speaker 4: I was about to say, what, how heavy was the anchor?
Speaker 6: Anchors are heavy in the water, but it took dude,
Speaker 6: whole body in the water.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he could well not know. Spikes onto it too,
Speaker 4: because he was holding it for a minute. He dropped it.
Speaker 4: He was like, they're with it, but dude, whole body across.
Speaker 6: It like a small Oh god, man, y'all making this
Speaker 6: movie worse than it was.
Speaker 1: No, that makes sense.
Speaker 4: He this dude's not a big guy.
Speaker 1: He's like my strong. Are you talking about the guy
Speaker 1: that got snatched.
Speaker 4: In know, I'm talking about Glen Powell. He don't look
Speaker 4: like he's that big, is he?
Speaker 1: No, he's cut, he's real. Yeah. Yeah, that's another thing.
Speaker 4: Why when I say he was my size, can say no,
Speaker 4: he's strong.
Speaker 1: You really.
Speaker 4: Love And I'm.
Speaker 3: Surprised they didn't do it in this movie because he's
Speaker 3: physically ripped.
Speaker 1: They love to show him.
Speaker 4: Shirtless in movies, gotcha, gotcha, but they didn't do it
Speaker 4: in this one, yanking him off the bench across the bike.
Speaker 1: How many times you wanted movies? Bro?
Speaker 4: I don't think that's that crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that one.
Speaker 5: Ain't crazy because I mean enough pressure can pull you
Speaker 5: down into the ocean, and the pressure increases as it
Speaker 5: goes down exactly.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that could have that one. That one is fine.
Speaker 4: That one is fine.
Speaker 2: But like Kim was saying, he saw that that was
Speaker 2: a relatively easy So he attends the funeral afterwards, but
Speaker 2: then he's introduced to the to his father, and the
Speaker 2: father does the whole nepotism thing and it's his uncle. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: this part could have been cool. Yeah, cool, like like
Speaker 2: going to that.
Speaker 1: It wasn't. I said, it wasn't.
Speaker 6: It wasn't Like I thought they were going to make
Speaker 6: the movie about this because the first when he first said,
Speaker 6: you know, I have these other people that they would
Speaker 6: have to die or with me to get the inherent
Speaker 6: and I'm like, Oh, he's gonna kill.
Speaker 4: These people through this movie.
Speaker 6: When he killed the first one, I was like, oh, great,
Speaker 6: this whole movie is gonna be him going around killing people.
Speaker 1: This is stupid.
Speaker 6: But then when he met the uncle, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 6: they're going to go a different direction. This could be interesting.
Speaker 6: It would be way better if.
Speaker 4: Him and uncle got close and uncle starts suspecting him
Speaker 4: of the murder. Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 6: I was like, okay, if the uncle actually thinks he
Speaker 6: killed his son, and then you have the two black
Speaker 6: FBI P gonna show up. If that's what this movie
Speaker 6: turns into, him having to like the uncle, having to
Speaker 6: like break down like, oh, I think this is what happened.
Speaker 6: This could be interesting, But that's not what they did.
Speaker 2: I didn't mind the route that they went with with
Speaker 2: the uncle just still drawing him closer to him, and
Speaker 2: then like, you know, he wants to go for this inheritance,
Speaker 2: but because he had his love for his uncle, he
Speaker 2: doesn't want to kill him. So I didn't mind that
Speaker 2: route per se. Yeah, because I was wondering, like, Okay, well, damn,
Speaker 2: how is he is he really gonna kill his.
Speaker 1: Uncle that he's just grew this bond with.
Speaker 6: But when they went, when they went back to the killing,
Speaker 6: I was just like, Okay, this is dumb, and now
Speaker 6: I know exactly what's about to happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure. So speaking of that, did you
Speaker 4: have anything else on the uncle?
Speaker 1: And then?
Speaker 3: No, I thought I thought it was I thought it
Speaker 3: was interesting or funny that he lost his job because
Speaker 3: of nepotism, but he gained a job because of exactly
Speaker 3: so he benefited from a system that was against him.
Speaker 3: So his class status quickly changed to another one one
Speaker 3: one of privilege. You that was the style upon him
Speaker 3: when he was born into this family.
Speaker 2: So yeah, anything else on that on the uncle?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: So let me are moving to the second murder, which
Speaker 2: is Noah. Noah's a photographer or the artists. Uh introduces
Speaker 2: himself as they come across the path. Uh, passed out
Speaker 2: woman and Noah tells Beckett to kick the can.
Speaker 1: This is just for its like inspiration.
Speaker 2: Just showing that easier real artist, or he just doing
Speaker 2: some bullshit or whatever.
Speaker 1: Uh. But anyway, I thought this one was okay.
Speaker 4: I thought Noah had some some character about.
Speaker 1: Him, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like he was he was a he was a he
Speaker 2: was a decent character to me. How did ya feel
Speaker 2: about Noah?
Speaker 1: I like this.
Speaker 5: He played in Silicon Valley, okay, and he played a
Speaker 5: good role there, but it wasn't interesting. But I do
Speaker 5: think that this part of it, like Noah the girlfriend,
Speaker 5: him falling for that whole exchange, I thought that was good.
Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't have a problem with but the
Speaker 5: predictability of it, which takes me out of it. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 5: well he's gonna kill him at some point, so he has.
Speaker 1: To kill him. It's no movie without it, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know, I think that for me, this
Speaker 3: was a little bit of a It's not because I
Speaker 3: understand what type of movie it is, but it's still
Speaker 3: was just a slight issue because I'm like.
Speaker 1: You immediately fall for this girl who's.
Speaker 3: In a relationship with the person you're going to kill,
Speaker 3: that's going to immediately put you on like the hook
Speaker 3: for this murder.
Speaker 1: You just came around, you know, Yeah, you just came around.
Speaker 3: The boyfriend dies, and now you're dating the boyfriend, which
Speaker 3: he acknowledged in the movie.
Speaker 1: He did acknowledge it.
Speaker 3: But the FBI just stupid as fuck because they used
Speaker 3: that as they used to the other thing.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, bro, it's.
Speaker 3: Like right there, like you can you know there's something
Speaker 3: right there, so you know again, I just I let
Speaker 3: it go. But as soon as he was talking about
Speaker 3: even though he acknowledged it, I'm glad you acknowledge.
Speaker 1: It, but that should come back to bite you never
Speaker 1: did yep. Yeah, the FB with trash, super trash.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't understand, Like, what was the point
Speaker 2: in him if they weren't gonna really do some real investigation.
Speaker 4: I don't like how they made him black.
Speaker 1: Dumb. They need to be white cotton.
Speaker 4: At least they made one of them white. FBI.
Speaker 5: When does that ever happen? Yeah, come in the face
Speaker 5: to just dumb. The whole movie couldn't figure ship out
Speaker 5: right then, they couldn't.
Speaker 1: It was it was weird.
Speaker 4: This whole, this whole, this whole.
Speaker 5: Scene was was was trash. No, it was trash. The
Speaker 5: girlfriend was trash.
Speaker 6: I had to look her up. I couldn't remember where
Speaker 6: I saw her from. She was in fucking iron iron Fist.
Speaker 6: Oh really, she ain't really done much since. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: didn't mind her, though, I did like the situation. It
Speaker 6: was just like, this is stupid. It was kind of stupid.
Speaker 6: Felt fast.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 6: It was super fast and super forced. I left my
Speaker 6: jacket knowing she's gonna come running out here.
Speaker 1: What and then the quick and her being okay with it.
Speaker 3: I think in this day and age, like in the
Speaker 3: nineties and eighties, that shit can work. In this day
Speaker 3: and age, you need a little bit more and not
Speaker 3: you just making googly at one another.
Speaker 4: And it was the book thing that we were supposed
Speaker 4: to believe.
Speaker 3: I understand that, but still like, that's all, bro. You
Speaker 3: didn't get any type of con at all. Y'all just
Speaker 3: looking at each other and bonding over and you come
Speaker 3: back for a dinner and next thing you know, you're
Speaker 3: pulling Nah.
Speaker 2: She was desperate you and obviously Noah wasn't giving her
Speaker 2: attention she wanted and then but he was and then
Speaker 2: they had similar interests and stuff, so they kind of
Speaker 2: played on that I get.
Speaker 1: This movie ship. But still it was just like.
Speaker 5: That ship would need to be stretched out for half
Speaker 5: the movie for me to just buy that.
Speaker 6: Oh she fell for him.
Speaker 1: That ship was wack. It was like Thiscond encounter. Look
Speaker 1: I'm with y'all.
Speaker 4: It was that just him.
Speaker 6: She couldn't take it. She's had to get them non
Speaker 6: lips man, everything but his lips. I don't know what
Speaker 6: happened to his lips. He needed to go talk to
Speaker 6: Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 4: God damn injections. He needs something, and the way he
Speaker 4: set up to kill him.
Speaker 5: So that's what I was about to ask, how do
Speaker 5: ya feel about let me go to the bathroom real
Speaker 5: quick in this brand new house? You basically built the
Speaker 5: bomb in the in the photo the science body, Yeah,
Speaker 5: but it took too long.
Speaker 4: If I go up to be spiking killing somebody, bro.
Speaker 1: But he took a long ass time in the bathroom.
Speaker 5: Like they was like, if somebody come to your house,
Speaker 5: kid used the restroom real quick, People start asking what
Speaker 5: and then you catch him up there and it's like,
Speaker 5: oh man, I just had to.
Speaker 1: Come get get photo excuse ship. I mean it's this.
Speaker 6: You know, it was way too many conveniences like this
Speaker 6: to work.
Speaker 4: They used a lot of movie man and you know
Speaker 4: one thing I.
Speaker 6: Forgot to bring up at the beginning. Y'all probably didn't
Speaker 6: see it, but I think Rod did. So the guy
Speaker 6: you're saying you didn't recognize the director, he did Emily
Speaker 6: The Criminal, which was actually really good.
Speaker 1: That's what I was asking, like familiar with No.
Speaker 5: I had to look him up Baptist because I was like,
Speaker 5: how then get this job? The Criminal was the same
Speaker 5: type of movie.
Speaker 6: It's where like when you put somebody that's not in
Speaker 6: this world into a world are not familiar with.
Speaker 4: And then they have to figure it out.
Speaker 6: But it was so good because it's Audrey Plaza being
Speaker 6: thrown into like a criminal underworld where he tried to
Speaker 6: do the same ship with this, but make it a
Speaker 6: fucking comedy trash.
Speaker 1: Blew up.
Speaker 6: The fucking dudes, Come on, you know it was only
Speaker 6: gonna blow up the one little thing.
Speaker 4: He don't know what the he's doing. Why is he
Speaker 4: a scientist?
Speaker 1: On he's he just looked up how to make it blow.
Speaker 4: They need to give me an explanation as to why
Speaker 4: he's so smart.
Speaker 1: And while I think it is, I think you can
Speaker 1: look that ship up on.
Speaker 6: I'm saying, would you have thought, Okay, he's always smoking
Speaker 6: up here, there's gotta be some kind of powder that
Speaker 6: I could put in this water that's gonna make this.
Speaker 4: Ship blow up.
Speaker 3: I do think you could, after a period of time
Speaker 3: trying to figure out what ways to do it. But
Speaker 3: I think it was I don't think he used a cigarette.
Speaker 3: I think the cigarette was the plant. For the police investigations,
Speaker 3: the light was the trigger, and because when they started
Speaker 3: doing the analysis, it would make sense for the light.
Speaker 6: To be I thought it was the lighter that was
Speaker 6: the spark that blew it up.
Speaker 4: The light bulb.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the light bulb that that created the spark.
Speaker 3: But when they're doing the investigation, that's cigarette. They're gonna
Speaker 3: find the cigarette, and they're gonna find the lighter, and
Speaker 3: they're gonna deduct that deduced.
Speaker 1: That it was the lighter.
Speaker 6: They call why would the light bulb cause a spark
Speaker 6: to blow down to Okay, then all kind of proven
Speaker 6: my point.
Speaker 1: That's what I was about.
Speaker 4: Say, you're proving this point even more that that's some
Speaker 4: intricate ass plot.
Speaker 6: Yes, if it was just the light, which was already
Speaker 6: bad enough, I would have believed that.
Speaker 5: But now y'all saying he broke the light man, Yeah,
Speaker 5: he broke the light. So when he pulled in a
Speaker 5: spark fly much, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: There was some diver ship. That's ridiculous. This movie sucks.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. All right, So we talked about the
Speaker 1: agents already.
Speaker 2: After this is when the agents finally pop up, because
Speaker 2: this is two mothers at this point, and they're like, okay,
Speaker 2: yo with.
Speaker 1: The family inherents, which, yeah, its protocol. Yeah, I wonder
Speaker 1: is that true. I didn't bother to look up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hell yeah, especially with a high profile family like this.
Speaker 1: You know. My thing with this part is like, at
Speaker 1: this point, bro, you need to stop. Like that's what
Speaker 1: I was like, move over. You got a job. You like,
Speaker 1: you think more clever ways to do it.
Speaker 4: You've got a girl, and you got a job. Let
Speaker 4: the ship got job too.
Speaker 2: And that's what the pastor was saying. He was just like,
Speaker 2: and this wasn't enough for you to stop. You know,
Speaker 2: you got a good job, you gotta you got a girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was thinking the same thing even before the past
Speaker 3: said I'm sure we all were. It's just like, all right, man,
Speaker 3: you won like you're good.
Speaker 4: But I knew that wud make the movie over.
Speaker 1: So I knew he's gonna have to kill the other
Speaker 1: exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: So so yeah, so he lies about knowing about the
Speaker 2: inheritance where he didn't lack a good liar.
Speaker 1: He did not, I was a lot of good actor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we move on to he's later informed
Speaker 2: that decline at the office, which turns out to be Julia.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: She encourages to kill to do continue the killings before
Speaker 2: asking for a long so I guess, yeah, matter of fact,
Speaker 2: he did consider not doing it, but this is where
Speaker 2: she came in with her influence for him to continue
Speaker 2: doing it before I kill her.
Speaker 6: That's the first thing I said. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 6: kill her, but I was like, he's not gonna do that.
Speaker 6: Carry on the us of the killings for no fucking reason.
Speaker 6: Kill this motherfucker, little skinny ass. He could have said
Speaker 6: anything happened to her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is really what the film Fatale really kicking.
Speaker 2: Y'all feel anyway about Juliet at this point, I liked.
Speaker 4: Her, but I mean, she really didn't do nothing for
Speaker 4: the movie but make it more unbelievable.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, you know, she was at this
Speaker 3: point turning into the villain, so they were removing it
Speaker 3: from him for whatever reason, because he is running around
Speaker 3: killing people. And I mean she was asking for a
Speaker 3: loan because her situation fell apart.
Speaker 2: Which is why I don't think she had anything to do.
Speaker 2: In the beginning. We wanted him to go after everybody.
Speaker 3: But I don't think at this point she knew what
Speaker 3: was going on. She suspected it, yeah, but she didn't
Speaker 3: have evidence. So at this point, this is when somebody
Speaker 3: to start following him for the next murders that took place,
Speaker 3: and then we later found out that she was the
Speaker 3: one that was spending all the money, which is why
Speaker 3: he was broke.
Speaker 2: So yeah, right, anything else from anybody else on this part,
Speaker 2: all right? Yeah, So, like I said, she asked for
Speaker 2: the loan. In the midst of this, she took the keys,
Speaker 2: was to come back around, took his keys.
Speaker 5: With Mike, and he let her bro what I was
Speaker 5: forgives we all saw her take the key.
Speaker 4: I like that. She said that too, that they wrote
Speaker 4: that in this She was like, you've seen me too.
Speaker 1: Why would you make such a bad movie? Why? Why
Speaker 1: was he okay with that? I still don't understand.
Speaker 6: I don't either, I don't understand. Did they not have
Speaker 6: any other clever ways for her to get the key?
Speaker 1: I guess not. She took one of the keys off
Speaker 1: and she tossed him back to be fair, But we
Speaker 1: all saw it, Yeah we did.
Speaker 4: So I'm saying, why was he confused? Get in here?
Speaker 1: Why did he ask?
Speaker 4: Why why are you taking my keys? How she knows
Speaker 4: which key is the house keys?
Speaker 1: Even then? You write too many questions this movie, let's
Speaker 1: not that fire.
Speaker 5: I'm saying that thing and watching it can like that.
Speaker 5: Come on, said we're too smart for this in twenty
Speaker 5: twenty six, but make you have.
Speaker 1: To suspend too much more, way too much? So yeah, man?
Speaker 4: And then so he realizes that I warned his next
Speaker 4: in line, but he can't bring himself.
Speaker 2: This is what something about earlier. Can't bring himself to
Speaker 2: kill his uncle so convened.
Speaker 1: Didn't see this? Conn Well, who didn't see that? Didn't?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying the other
Speaker 1: murders that took place before I was one, before warning
Speaker 1: the auntie. These were well, not even.
Speaker 4: He skipped the uncle and went to the auntie. I
Speaker 4: believe no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: He killed the evangelists.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, remember preachers that he pretended to put
Speaker 3: and he put something in this this this is another
Speaker 3: one that should have been real suspicious to the FBI.
Speaker 1: Who was the evangelist.
Speaker 6: He had a cousin. He maybe had a cousin that
Speaker 6: was a preacher. He was like a real but she
Speaker 6: was a TV preacher. Like I thought that was later.
Speaker 6: I don't remember, I could you could be right, I
Speaker 6: thought it was later, but yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 1: It was the last person in line, know, his uncle
Speaker 1: what I.
Speaker 6: Mean, his uncle would have been the last in line,
Speaker 6: but his uncle still just died on his own.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and that's what he said. He was going
Speaker 1: to stop it.
Speaker 5: He focused on the uncle, said he couldn't be able
Speaker 5: to do it, so they don't need me doing the
Speaker 5: other ones.
Speaker 4: And then that's when his uncle died. He was like, well,
Speaker 4: go ahead and do it. That's when he that's when
Speaker 4: he started going after the other ones.
Speaker 5: Damn, okay, yeah right, it's the same thing the uncle
Speaker 5: said when he got here with the hard time. I
Speaker 5: don't know why but I was the only one there
Speaker 5: that laughed out loud.
Speaker 1: He said, damn, holler.
Speaker 4: Fucking because it was strong as damn was.
Speaker 1: Honey.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Another show, he played the lawyer in one of
Speaker 4: the shows that we reviewed.
Speaker 1: I thought that was himself Anarchy, the little ugly dude
Speaker 1: from something Anarchy, the lawyer, And what a dude was
Speaker 1: I look it up him. So one coment I do have.
Speaker 3: We don't have to stay a long but to you
Speaker 3: guys point earlier, and I think maybe you said you
Speaker 3: guys probably agreed, is that we really should have spent
Speaker 3: a lot of time seeing the relationship between the office.
Speaker 1: Yes, yea like.
Speaker 3: Because this was a very pivotal moment for him and
Speaker 3: showed that he was trying to go a new path.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Agree, So because he skipped him, he didn't goes to
Speaker 4: what you were saying, the pastor.
Speaker 2: This is when he goes to it's the pastor and
Speaker 2: he pretends to be a writer of a magazine to
Speaker 2: interview him, and then as as a distraction, he asks
Speaker 2: about the photos of Steven's office beacon. As more of
Speaker 2: a compound this this I don't know, man, he's a
Speaker 2: chemist or something. Man, but he added it to his
Speaker 2: protein shape or whatnot. This I thought was was interesting
Speaker 2: because the the guy caught on to what was happening.
Speaker 2: He thought that he was the killer. No, he thought
Speaker 2: he was somebody else that was trying to.
Speaker 6: Right because the writer had already retired from the or
Speaker 6: he died from whoever the writer was that he was
Speaker 6: using the name. That person was gone already, so you're
Speaker 6: trying to set me up. He thought he was trying
Speaker 6: to write bad stuff about him.
Speaker 1: In the post.
Speaker 6: I know he said that, but I don't think he
Speaker 6: thought he was a killer. Yeah, yeah, okay, I don't
Speaker 6: think he's not.
Speaker 3: Even killer in a difference, he's not even killer hip
Speaker 3: killer killers.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was anything but the FBI.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't think that. I don't think that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think they implied that the Preacher was
Speaker 6: suspecting that he was going to actually show up and
Speaker 6: kill him. He thought he was going to make I
Speaker 6: guess he was just like, why the fuck are you
Speaker 6: here since you're using somebody else's name. But all of
Speaker 6: this ship was whack. But all these swords and ship
Speaker 6: was stupid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he even said, and we have some sort of
Speaker 3: like like hip hop sort of thing to him too,
Speaker 3: when he said, hey, man, I hit you back or
Speaker 3: something like that. I don't know, but yeah, he thought
Speaker 3: it was somebody from the Washington Post. I was going
Speaker 3: to write a piece on him, so that that was
Speaker 3: his whole thing. I'm my issue and I think you
Speaker 3: just with this killing is that at this point these people,
Speaker 3: you got one that drowned, Okay, fine, whatever disposion, Maybe
Speaker 3: you could explain that, but somebody accidentally.
Speaker 1: Overdosing on this. Come on, and now it's three of
Speaker 1: the Red Fellows at this point around.
Speaker 5: The motherfuckers up and they got too much money to
Speaker 5: ignore that, like somebody in the family can hold on.
Speaker 3: Like the question I would ask is how does he
Speaker 3: accidentally take too much of this stuff that's in this
Speaker 3: drink that he's having that so you know what?
Speaker 4: What that The way they explained that one was that
Speaker 4: the church didn't want to.
Speaker 1: They did explain that, Yeah, they didn't want I forgot.
Speaker 2: To be an investigation on why the pastor would have
Speaker 2: overdosed or something like that, because they would have been
Speaker 2: a bad This.
Speaker 1: Was a good joke.
Speaker 6: Why would Beckett know that? Beckett wouldn't know that walking
Speaker 6: he wouldn't know that. But and why wouldn't he be
Speaker 6: smart enough to get somebody else to do the killings?
Speaker 6: Because by this point, why would he not think that
Speaker 6: the FBI was watching him, which they should have been.
Speaker 6: They fucking should have been watching him. But no, man,
Speaker 6: this ship just didn't make any sense. This was way
Speaker 6: too convenient.
Speaker 1: He suspected they were watching them, which is why he
Speaker 1: had the gout it. Oh they got to walk out
Speaker 1: look like him.
Speaker 4: But he still went there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so if if if they came, if the FBI
Speaker 6: went to the preacher preacher pastor whe where the FU
Speaker 6: his office and said, yo.
Speaker 4: Did anything strange happened?
Speaker 6: Well, there was this one guy with a hat and
Speaker 6: some glasses and no lips that showed up wanting to
Speaker 6: interview him.
Speaker 4: Oh that's god.
Speaker 1: He left pretty quickly, he loved pretty quickly.
Speaker 3: And he could have asked they could have asked for
Speaker 3: any video around the place.
Speaker 1: Right, you know?
Speaker 6: This was this was ridiculous, man, I don't this was
Speaker 6: this was high school level in this movie. Like, I
Speaker 6: don't think you have to be a critic to see
Speaker 6: the holes in this fucking story.
Speaker 1: Not for sure.
Speaker 2: So then the next next thing that happens is that
Speaker 2: this is where Julie is in his crib or whatever,
Speaker 2: and he has a relationship with Ruth at this point now,
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, I guess that this is where she's
Speaker 2: more so trying to convince him to keep going, and
Speaker 2: she wants more what's up?
Speaker 4: Like she was how long?
Speaker 6: I mean, I wouldn't even only ask stuff like this,
Speaker 6: but for a movie that's written this badly, she was
Speaker 6: just sitting there in the dark like this. This is
Speaker 6: a rich white woman. It's just sitting in the dark
Speaker 6: hoping he'll come home at.
Speaker 4: Some point so she can do this surprise.
Speaker 6: I'm here.
Speaker 4: This was ridiculous and you should have killed her right then.
Speaker 1: Well fuck that. I'm a hit.
Speaker 4: Though she said that ship when she was in the office,
Speaker 4: I'm hit. I would have thought that the way.
Speaker 5: When she was in the office, she was like only
Speaker 5: you know, like this could go another way, This could
Speaker 5: go another way, go everywhere, This can go every way.
Speaker 6: Les he could have saved himself all of this trouble
Speaker 6: if he gave her a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know, he could have.
Speaker 3: I do agree with that, because that's all she wanted.
Speaker 3: But she was trying to get to the money of course,
Speaker 3: but still I do like that she was like, oh
Speaker 3: that was a bit dramatic, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, so she did acknowledge. They acknowledge certain things.
Speaker 5: In the movie to kind of get us to ignore it,
Speaker 5: like we know this is stupid, but hey there with
Speaker 5: us were almost done. Yeah, and I guess this part
Speaker 5: is where he shows that he doesn't have any interest
Speaker 5: in her, because at first we didn't know if he
Speaker 5: had real interest in her because he did try to
Speaker 5: hit on herm when she came to the suit store.
Speaker 4: But this is where you realize, like, nah, he really
Speaker 4: likes Ruth Moore the girl or whatever.
Speaker 2: So yeah, both right, So anyway, this is where we
Speaker 2: get to the Yeah, and I think they did a
Speaker 2: good job at making the family seemed like pieces of
Speaker 2: shit because she was like one of one of those
Speaker 2: people that adopt these children from all over the country.
Speaker 2: And we know, like when people do that, it just
Speaker 2: looks like looks real sketchy when they do it. So,
Speaker 2: how did y'all feel about the encounter with the un
Speaker 2: and that murder or whatever? Because she has hell of
Speaker 2: surveillance on her because of everything that happened prior.
Speaker 4: She's like the motherfuckerin's gonna get me.
Speaker 2: So he catches her in a sauna and again uses
Speaker 2: poison on a fucking mouthpiece thing and kills her that way.
Speaker 4: I'm just glad they didn't linger here.
Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, get the shit over like, I'm
Speaker 5: glad that they didn't have to have a relationship like
Speaker 5: they built with the other cousin, Like, just get it
Speaker 5: over with.
Speaker 1: How is he so resourceful?
Speaker 6: How does he keep getting like work shirts and sneaking
Speaker 6: in and getting the whole ass uniform.
Speaker 4: How did you do this when you're broke? I know,
Speaker 4: broke people are very resourceful.
Speaker 1: But he got money. He got money. Now he got
Speaker 1: the job.
Speaker 6: Yeah that's true, But that he got money to where
Speaker 6: you can go get a uniform made so he can
Speaker 6: sneak into a spa.
Speaker 4: Six figure jump. Huh a six figure jump. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But I mean didn't really go the resources.
Speaker 3: Is just dumb dude with with with with the sound
Speaker 3: of one, Yeah, I don't know, but he did explain
Speaker 3: the aviador with the one that died by the airplane.
Speaker 1: He did say that was a shirt from Walmart and
Speaker 1: some glasses.
Speaker 4: I forgot about that. But he had a name, like
Speaker 4: he had a little tag thing on nobody.
Speaker 1: And he said Lemonade.
Speaker 4: Whole team of people, nobody, the man just giving him
Speaker 4: his coffee.
Speaker 3: Because he's a regular white guy walking around, so nobody
Speaker 3: will pay attention to that.
Speaker 4: At your job, this show.
Speaker 6: These your people thought this would be like us, I
Speaker 6: don't think people walking and they they just worked for
Speaker 6: the air airplane. I'm talking about the airplane people. None
Speaker 6: of them were like, well, there was this guy that
Speaker 6: we'd never seen before, and he did show up and
Speaker 6: give him some coffee. Like this is just getting to
Speaker 6: a point where it's not even funny ridiculous. It's just
Speaker 6: like y'all think we're stupid.
Speaker 1: And once they do the autopsy, they were realized that
Speaker 1: he had so you.
Speaker 4: Know, it's just it's not a perfect movie.
Speaker 1: No, it's not very far, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, y'all skip to the next one, which was Macauthy.
Speaker 2: That was the help you the uh yeah, I mean, hey,
Speaker 2: I know we lingered on ship. So no, no, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's fine. I mean because that one was right after
Speaker 2: they showed him back to back. So yeah, he gave
Speaker 2: him the coffee, killed him because he was inebated inside
Speaker 2: the plane and crashed.
Speaker 1: What was the poison that gette what was the allergic to?
Speaker 2: It was just some chemicals because she was using different
Speaker 2: things from That's that's why she thought it was it
Speaker 2: would work because she was already using different chemicals from
Speaker 2: different uh countries.
Speaker 1: So she just missed the wrong one and then that
Speaker 1: it looks like an accident. So yeah, that was. Yeah.
Speaker 6: None of the spat people saw this motherful walking around
Speaker 6: and was like, oh yeah, there's some guy again and
Speaker 6: white the lips and she just told, oh yeah, sure,
Speaker 6: come on, man, this is just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It was was. It was pretty bad. So then.
Speaker 4: So then they're leaving work one day and that's this
Speaker 4: is when the uncle collapsed.
Speaker 1: This is what we were talking about.
Speaker 2: The uncle just kind of kind of showing that okay,
Speaker 2: he was about to die and he was just saying
Speaker 2: how he was the only one that visited him things
Speaker 2: like that. So you can just tell that they actually
Speaker 2: had a bond. So it was kind of interesting to
Speaker 2: see that damn, he's been killing all the family. He
Speaker 2: really didn't want his uncle to die or whatever. So
Speaker 2: that's the part I said I thought was interesting, But
Speaker 2: I do agree that that could have gave more to
Speaker 2: that story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we really needed that to see that he was
Speaker 3: really disturbed and bothered by that. That was definitely a
Speaker 3: miss moment in the movie.
Speaker 6: They should have made the uncle the very last kill
Speaker 6: and skipped over all that shit with the grandfather, which
Speaker 6: we'll get to, of course. But if they made the
Speaker 6: uncle the last kill and then it showed that he
Speaker 6: was just broken up about having to.
Speaker 4: Do this, this could have been interesting.
Speaker 5: But when they were walking down the stairs and everything
Speaker 5: looks so happy, I was like, I'm motherfucker finna die.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: To be fair, I didn't think he was gonna fall
Speaker 6: on the stairs and die, but the second he held.
Speaker 4: His chest, I was like, okay, well I was sort
Speaker 4: of right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And even at the board meeting, he know, he
Speaker 3: looked like he was really bothered and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can tell him an okay, so let me.
Speaker 2: So he ended up dying, dying, so that leaves the
Speaker 2: grandfather that's the last person to kill. But oh my god,
Speaker 2: at this point, he's he's he's showing that he's kind
Speaker 2: of content, he's having he's engaged and everything. They got
Speaker 2: an engagement party, but the same day of his engagement,
Speaker 2: the uncle that the grandfather invites him to the crib
Speaker 2: and he cannot resist going to see the grandfather.
Speaker 1: What'd y'all think? What's happening right here? This was really cheesy?
Speaker 4: How they were not cheesy?
Speaker 5: They gave their best effort to try to tie this
Speaker 5: back to the original meeting with the fiance when she
Speaker 5: was like, well, why do you want all this for?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 4: Like if you had a billion dollars, what would you
Speaker 4: do with it?
Speaker 5: And then they tied it in with him choosing to
Speaker 5: go see the grandfather over just going to the gauge, like,
Speaker 5: you got what you want, you got a wife, you
Speaker 5: got a nice job, you're successful at this point, but
Speaker 5: he still had to go chase more and he didn't
Speaker 5: even have a reason for it at all.
Speaker 1: Well, not exactly. That's not quite high. I went. They used.
Speaker 3: What's her name, Julia and her embellzement as the motivation
Speaker 3: for him to go to the grandfather.
Speaker 1: It still doesn't work for me. Well we skip. I
Speaker 1: struggle with.
Speaker 2: To invite but then yeah, I was gonna say that
Speaker 2: that's all good. She comes into the play and was like, no,
Speaker 2: you need to see this through. She takes tell them
Speaker 2: to go to the office where her husband is. She
Speaker 2: want to check for seven fifty right, mm hmm, So
Speaker 2: she kind of something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But anyway, at this point, FBI is really like, Okay,
Speaker 4: what the hell is going on?
Speaker 2: So all of this happens. He storms through this building,
Speaker 2: he finds the husband. He he forces the.
Speaker 1: Last two weeks. Why couldn't he just give her the check?
Speaker 6: But that instruction, I know, what's the instructions, But why
Speaker 6: couldn't he be like, no, I can't keep doing this
Speaker 6: because the FBI is following me around their.
Speaker 4: Tracking Then be like, I'm not doing this. Get your
Speaker 4: ass over here, your skinny ass, take this.
Speaker 6: But that's what she presented the Kotos like, I know,
Speaker 6: but be like, I'm not going through his office because
Speaker 6: I'm going to get in trouble. I'm gonna give you
Speaker 6: the check and be done with it right here.
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 2: He didn't make any sense, Yeah, but she I guess
Speaker 2: she just didn't want to be tied to it like that,
Speaker 2: so she wanted to keep her distance.
Speaker 4: She k because the husband knew that she was involved
Speaker 4: with it and that she was on the phone.
Speaker 1: She was on the phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that
Speaker 1: he but she was.
Speaker 2: It was like a boss move, like like, no, I
Speaker 2: don't want to I don't want to be anywhere part
Speaker 2: of this, Like y'all, y'all just give it to him,
Speaker 2: hand it over to him.
Speaker 4: That wasn't the boss move. That was plot device. They
Speaker 4: just used it to get him in the hoosband the
Speaker 4: same place.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And she didn't have nothing to do
Speaker 6: with the death. If she killed the man, then I
Speaker 6: would have been like, Okay, that's a boss move.
Speaker 1: But she didn't.
Speaker 4: Who kills himself by stabbing himself in the fucking stomach?
Speaker 1: How was this movie made? Y'all?
Speaker 4: Who kills himselves like that? Nobody?
Speaker 1: Well, he wasn't dead at the moment. Huh.
Speaker 4: You're talking about the husband. The husband stabbed himself in
Speaker 4: the stomach and died, But.
Speaker 1: That was later.
Speaker 4: That was later that the latter who does who kills themselves?
Speaker 1: That way? Ride? I don't know what what he was age.
Speaker 6: He's talking about the Pooku, but they don't. I don't
Speaker 6: know if they still do that ship that was like
Speaker 6: that would make movies.
Speaker 4: I don't know they still he did just say Asians,
Speaker 4: I did my little grace but I knew what he meant.
Speaker 4: Asians whatever, like the Asian dad check his stomach.
Speaker 1: They just they just fall on all off, every single one.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, bro.
Speaker 6: Ship if roots show up there, hey man, you look
Speaker 6: for some sword a round. Now that ship was dumb
Speaker 6: as hell. Man, what a how you doctor? He observed
Speaker 6: to die. If you doctor a letter opener not.
Speaker 1: Long, it would have took you to bleed you.
Speaker 4: All day. I die before anybody.
Speaker 1: Come in here and see me.
Speaker 2: All right, man, So then we all right, so this
Speaker 2: is go there we jumped. Now we can jump to
Speaker 2: the mansion and this showdown show? What did y'all think
Speaker 2: about the show down?
Speaker 1: That I was out? As bad as everything? Whole scene.
Speaker 1: This was worse.
Speaker 4: This was the whole A billionaire, rich white man, like
Speaker 4: just have him killed just.
Speaker 1: In this ouse gun running around.
Speaker 4: This was ridiculous. And then he sat.
Speaker 1: Arrows watch at the beginning of the movie trying to circle.
Speaker 1: It was like crash. It did not rash.
Speaker 6: It was trash that you even went. It was trash
Speaker 6: that you didn't have no signal at the dude's house.
Speaker 1: It was all trash.
Speaker 4: And why did you have to go today? Why can't
Speaker 4: you go to tomorrow. Why can't you call? Why are
Speaker 4: we doing this?
Speaker 5: And then they have this conversation where they're talking in
Speaker 5: cold about what he knowing that he did it and
Speaker 5: didn't like that was compelling to like, bro, like you
Speaker 5: gonna shoot this man or not, Like, let's get this
Speaker 5: ship move if you don't hurry up with this bullshit.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I hate in movies when they just when they have
Speaker 3: lights off for no reason. I just I just like
Speaker 3: they're just walking in the dark. It just really bothers me.
Speaker 3: None of this may look.
Speaker 1: I'm not defending any aspect of I was waiting, so
Speaker 1: I have the issues. I just accepted it for what
Speaker 1: it was. This shit was stupid. The arrow. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: self defense.
Speaker 3: Somehow he's gonna get away with all of this, even
Speaker 3: though there are seven brad Fellows dead and he gets
Speaker 3: the money.
Speaker 1: They already told him that he inherited the money.
Speaker 3: So at some point the FBI should have done a
Speaker 3: full invest mitigation into every single one of these, uh
Speaker 3: probably cold.
Speaker 1: Cases at this point the ship.
Speaker 3: But the issue I had mostly with this outside of
Speaker 3: him trying to kill him, because as a billionaire, he
Speaker 3: could probably easily get away with that using money?
Speaker 1: Why the fuck did you even go?
Speaker 3: That was the issue I had, And I'm with everything
Speaker 3: you said, Mike, you can go on another day.
Speaker 1: You don't have to go at all. Using him being
Speaker 1: upset with Julia.
Speaker 3: Forcing him to give this money as the reason for
Speaker 3: him to go did not make any sense for me.
Speaker 1: I thought that he was gonna get caught because he
Speaker 1: was like, I told you it was gonna be a tragedy, right.
Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna get caught because he accidentally
Speaker 3: killed that guy and that was gonna be how he
Speaker 3: ended up going to jail, the.
Speaker 1: One that stabbed himself when he put him in the
Speaker 1: in the Yeah, when he put.
Speaker 3: Him in the choco, I was like, Oh shit, he's
Speaker 3: gonna kill him, and that's how gonna get caught.
Speaker 6: I thought he was gonna get I thought the same thing.
Speaker 6: I was like, Oh, he's gonna get caught. And Julia
Speaker 6: is the one that set it up because she killed him.
Speaker 1: She didn't.
Speaker 4: But the biggest problem with this whole ship was FBI
Speaker 4: was on him.
Speaker 1: At this point.
Speaker 6: FBI was at the office and was like, Oh, we're
Speaker 6: tracking him, we see him leaving. Why don't you have
Speaker 6: a full time tracker on this dude, Then why did
Speaker 6: you have any cops in this movie at all?
Speaker 1: Why didn't they go?
Speaker 3: I thought they were gonna follow him to the Why
Speaker 3: wouldn't they have if they follow him, why didn't they
Speaker 3: go talk to the guy that he talked to at
Speaker 3: this place, you know, and say, hey, what did he
Speaker 3: come up here and talk to you about?
Speaker 1: Why was he even here?
Speaker 4: This is a billionaire. I'm going to bring you to
Speaker 4: my home, my personal private home, and.
Speaker 1: Shoot you with a gun.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go through my house, chasing you, shooting up doors.
Speaker 6: Why wouldn't you just have him killed like.
Speaker 4: Trump did Epstein? Why wouldn't you just do that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lock the door, and you can't get.
Speaker 4: Out all the doors, all of the door.
Speaker 3: He couldn't find a window to jump through. A ship
Speaker 3: was so I was, I'm just gonna shoot at you
Speaker 3: with this.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was crazy.
Speaker 6: And even even if we go past the fact that
Speaker 6: he fucking killed this this this billionaire guy. When he
Speaker 6: got back to Ruth, I was like, Okay, this would
Speaker 6: make sense if he goes ahead and shows like, yo,
Speaker 6: dude shot me in the arm. DA I had no choice,
Speaker 6: no No, he's just like, man, I had to do
Speaker 6: the baby.
Speaker 1: Well, he told her that. Though I would, they didn't
Speaker 1: show us or we didn't hear it.
Speaker 5: He didn't want to hear that. Ship I understand that
Speaker 5: I'm showing the wound. I got shot, y'all, assuming in
Speaker 5: the first place, I would have said I got kidnapped.
Speaker 5: These motherfuckers shot me and dragged me to his house.
Speaker 3: Because remember he said I told her because I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 3: you're gonna tell her everything. They're not married, so therefore
Speaker 3: he's gonna get caught this way now right in the
Speaker 3: movie frash and then to have I just told her
Speaker 3: just what she's gonna see on the news, which was
Speaker 3: he got killed. So I'm assuming that at that point
Speaker 3: he had to have told her about that. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think he told everything at that point and she didn't care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't. She accepted it.
Speaker 4: That is making it worse writing again for me, it is,
Speaker 4: but she accepted it.
Speaker 2: They had the riches at this point, so what she
Speaker 2: didn't want, which she didn't want, but but she she
Speaker 2: accepted it or whatever. So they show him living and
Speaker 2: starting to live a lavish lifestyle and then he gets
Speaker 2: caught for.
Speaker 1: A murder that he didn't do. This is what we
Speaker 1: talk about, the husband that stabbed himself. How long? This
Speaker 1: is so stupid, This is so stupid. I got nothing.
Speaker 4: The times jump in the time that they found out
Speaker 4: the dudes did didn't make.
Speaker 6: Sense none, because it made it seem like they were
Speaker 6: elite for a minute.
Speaker 4: So we just figuring to murder out.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because with the letter opener, he go on this
Speaker 3: big trial classic FBI. The party thing they did that
Speaker 3: at a on your neighbors or whatever. Yeah, your friends
Speaker 3: they did of the same ship where.
Speaker 1: They at the event. So to make a dramatic arrest,
Speaker 1: them take him out and uh, he's on trial. She's there,
Speaker 1: and then she's not there. So all of this was
Speaker 1: so predicted. Yeah, I guess she heard that Julia Lai
Speaker 1: say that he's always been in love with me. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You should have hit at least once. She Yeah, she's like,
Speaker 5: I tried to give you some pussy. He didn't want it,
Speaker 5: so you made me go.
Speaker 4: We could have had fun, right, That's what she said
Speaker 4: to but she saw, Yeah, she didn't even have the
Speaker 4: money at this point.
Speaker 1: Though she had the money at this point unless she
Speaker 1: got her husband's she probably have got life insurance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, obviously she wanted more.
Speaker 2: So she visits him at prison and tells her like, look,
Speaker 2: I got this, got this letter, I can release that
Speaker 2: he wanted to kill himself.
Speaker 1: Aren't these calls recorded? Yeah? They are? Why couldn't he
Speaker 1: just go?
Speaker 4: And like, you know, she just admitted X y Z.
Speaker 5: Even beyond that, like the pardon and what it would
Speaker 5: have took for him to like get out of jail,
Speaker 5: like you just got out that day when she dropped
Speaker 5: the letter, like knows he got out of that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he got that look like he
Speaker 1: was waiting on the time.
Speaker 4: He was like that was for the.
Speaker 5: Execution, so they probably stayed the execution. Yeah, they stayed
Speaker 5: the execution. And maybe it's like a week later or something.
Speaker 1: When the preacher started reading Man and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: the longest fun, no more of this. It's a round
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 4: You made me walk down to the Green pastors, Bro,
Speaker 4: that's where you fin to go.
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, because I'm like, I'm like the brother.
Speaker 3: The preacher was thinking, Bro, why would you even think
Speaker 3: to believe? Or when she said I want everything. M hmm,
Speaker 3: you didn't and he didn't.
Speaker 1: He had to do it well nonetheless, that or die
Speaker 1: like you at least got to have a little bit
Speaker 1: of faith like this what she you know, it came
Speaker 1: through like they said, you know, he was released.
Speaker 2: They said that the husband released a letter that he
Speaker 2: was actually gonna killed himself, and.
Speaker 1: They released him. They released him. He came out. What
Speaker 1: did y'all think at this point when he came out
Speaker 1: to Ruth? I said, she's about to leave?
Speaker 6: I said, she about the way she's standing there like
Speaker 6: that she about to leave at all? No, she had
Speaker 6: that stance like I'm mad as fuck, Yeah, because she
Speaker 6: didn't want like all of it to her was for nothing.
Speaker 4: She established that when we were very first introducing.
Speaker 5: And I'm thinking she only got that mad probably because
Speaker 5: she pulled up and she saw old girl back there.
Speaker 3: And she was like, yeah, makes sense because I was bullshitted.
Speaker 4: You see what you leaving?
Speaker 1: That right? That's what it's because she saw her behind
Speaker 1: So that makes sense. So that that that closes, And I.
Speaker 4: Forgot what she gave him?
Speaker 1: What did she give him?
Speaker 3: Which which him constantly reciting that over and over again.
Speaker 3: At one point when he did have everything that he needs,
Speaker 3: which is when the preacher pointed out, I'm like, bro,
Speaker 3: you did what your mom asked you to do. Like
Speaker 3: you know, you've gotten what you felt you deserve. There's
Speaker 3: no need to go further. So anyway, now you want to.
Speaker 2: Advance for his mother being treated the way she was,
Speaker 2: and Julia was the factor. I think he wouldn't have
Speaker 2: seen it all the way through if Julia didn't.
Speaker 1: Right, they Yeah, exactly. I believe that they used well,
Speaker 1: they used Julia to get him to go all the
Speaker 1: way through.
Speaker 6: I think he still would have gone to the grandfather's
Speaker 6: house because he wanted revenge.
Speaker 1: He was he was mad.
Speaker 5: He was mad about the way his grandfather treated his mother.
Speaker 5: Revenge or acceptance, I think he would have went then. Also,
Speaker 5: if his grandfather had been like I'd bring you into
Speaker 5: the family or whatever bullshit, I think he would have
Speaker 5: took that too.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. Yeah, because he didn't want to.
Speaker 1: He had the opportunity to kill him, he just didn't.
Speaker 1: My my my thing with.
Speaker 3: Could he have gotten the money back if he signed
Speaker 3: that under the rest in which he did, that was
Speaker 3: the question.
Speaker 1: He hadn't There was no reason for him to get
Speaker 1: in that car. None.
Speaker 6: None, except well, I lost Ruth, I may as well
Speaker 6: go ahead and.
Speaker 1: Hit real quick rich.
Speaker 3: But they showing him crying at the end, like he
Speaker 3: didn't even want to be there with her, like he
Speaker 3: had lost.
Speaker 1: So he got everything he needs.
Speaker 3: She ended up winning at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: which I did like that part of it that it
Speaker 3: wasn't a happy go lucky story.
Speaker 1: But he.
Speaker 4: Man, she's basically he's basically like her hitch prisoners did
Speaker 4: the prison boys going out?
Speaker 1: He was supposed to be her prisoner. Then why how
Speaker 1: is he her prisoner? I mean, he had lifestyle, but.
Speaker 6: Why would you at this point, that's when the movie ended.
Speaker 6: I said, you gotta be shitting me. You gotta be
Speaker 6: fucking shitting me.
Speaker 4: That's how this ends.
Speaker 1: I think that's her. I think she's that manipulative.
Speaker 2: I think she's like, look, I'm gonna bail you out
Speaker 2: and you're gonna live the life that you want, but
Speaker 2: you're gonna live that last because of me.
Speaker 6: I don't think that's manipulative. How is that really manipulation
Speaker 6: because it's not like she's tricking him.
Speaker 4: She know how bad he was.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but that was for her, that was to keep
Speaker 6: her off his ass, So that at this point this
Speaker 6: movie doesn't make any sense because and the whole issue
Speaker 6: is the main character, Beckett. Nothing about Beckett makes any sense,
Speaker 6: especially by the end of the film.
Speaker 4: You walk out there, you lose your girl.
Speaker 6: You see Margaret qually ass, You're like, Okay, I'm just
Speaker 6: gonna go jump in the car and ride out with you.
Speaker 4: Then why go after your girl, the girl you're in
Speaker 4: love with?
Speaker 1: What are we doing? But now he's flat broke.
Speaker 3: He could have went after the girl and could have
Speaker 3: tried to get her back because she was content with
Speaker 3: living without money.
Speaker 1: Right, so he wasn't.
Speaker 4: We don't know that.
Speaker 6: That's my issue with this film is we don't know
Speaker 6: that he would not be content with no money and
Speaker 6: having the girl.
Speaker 1: The way we know that is because of what his
Speaker 1: mother said.
Speaker 6: His mother just said, I want you to live a
Speaker 6: life that you deserve.
Speaker 4: That could be with a woman that loves.
Speaker 1: You, but understood it as money.
Speaker 4: I got it.
Speaker 6: But the movie would have made a good point if
Speaker 6: by the end of the film he's like, shit, the
Speaker 6: money wasn't really worth it.
Speaker 4: But you killed all these people at this point and
Speaker 4: you got nothing to show for. You got your girl though,
Speaker 4: You got the love your life. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's all you mean ship right there? Rod, You got
Speaker 4: your girl though.
Speaker 5: Question it's a question jayla As is like if your
Speaker 5: side should hit the lotter, Like how much.
Speaker 1: Do it gotta be for you?
Speaker 4: I've never heard that question.
Speaker 3: I don't know everything you're saying makes sense, but I'm
Speaker 3: more on Rod's side, and in terms of like, I
Speaker 3: think his understanding of this whole thing made it. I
Speaker 3: gotta get the money because she was denied the money,
Speaker 3: and that is what he felt like he deserves. We
Speaker 3: didn't see this, this flip and his character to where
Speaker 3: it's not about the material things, it's about the immaterial things,
Speaker 3: which is this girl, which I think is which is
Speaker 3: kind of I can't remember exactly he said that at
Speaker 3: the end. It was like, you know, it's really about
Speaker 3: you guys expecting this sort of happy, go lucky ending
Speaker 3: and it's not. It's you know, and them showing the
Speaker 3: gates closing, you know, of course being somewhat in jail,
Speaker 3: him not wanting to be there, but because she got
Speaker 3: all the money, him having to go there, and Julia
Speaker 3: when she says she wanted everything that also included him.
Speaker 5: I'm with you on he misunderstood or misinterpreted whatever the
Speaker 5: fuck what his mother said.
Speaker 4: I'm not with you on.
Speaker 6: Buying into his character believing it because at no point
Speaker 6: during the movie did I really think, Okay, he really
Speaker 6: does care about having all this money, Like, at no
Speaker 6: point did that for me at least become part of
Speaker 6: his core character.
Speaker 5: I think the bigger issue is he didn't really have
Speaker 5: any kind of character to begin with. This was one
Speaker 5: of the most poorly written.
Speaker 6: Main characters of any film I've seen in years.
Speaker 4: None go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I think he just wondered what was old to him?
Speaker 4: Shit owed to him. That's what that would have made
Speaker 4: this movie good.
Speaker 5: It didn't have to be happily ever after, but that's
Speaker 5: what would have made this movie at least acceptable if
Speaker 5: by the end of the film he accepted that you
Speaker 5: ain't old shit, none of this money was owed to you.
Speaker 4: The only thing you're old is life and death and
Speaker 4: that's it.
Speaker 6: So if he left the fucking jail and then was like, oh,
Speaker 6: let me go after my girl, and the movie ended
Speaker 6: with him going after her, not necessarily getting her back,
Speaker 6: but just going after her. I would have still thought
Speaker 6: this movie was trash, but I wouldn't have thought this
Speaker 6: was super trash.
Speaker 1: I would have thought that was more typical if it
Speaker 1: went that way.
Speaker 6: This this you're right, You're right, that is way more typical,
Speaker 6: because that usually works.
Speaker 1: That's usually a good movie.
Speaker 6: This ending did not work because it wasn't hard hitting
Speaker 6: for me. Because also, at what point did you actually
Speaker 6: ever care about Beckett?
Speaker 1: Feel you?
Speaker 6: Did anybody ever really give a shit about whether Beckett
Speaker 6: fucking wins or not?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: So if by the end, if this character you don't.
Speaker 6: Give a fuck about, it's stuck with this other character
Speaker 6: that they barely even developed, who cares.
Speaker 5: I think they thought this ending was gonna hit. They
Speaker 5: make the movie like because it's Gone Girl's ending. Essentially,
Speaker 5: it's the same ending as Gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: That movie had more legs. I don't know this movie
Speaker 5: to have enough legs for the ending to hit because I.
Speaker 3: For you guys critically think thinking about it from a
Speaker 3: critical standpoint, but they didn't develop storytelling standpoint.
Speaker 5: It's like what Mike is saying, why did he get
Speaker 5: in the car work at all? It was never established
Speaker 5: and not to be the dead. It was never established
Speaker 5: that the money and that lifestyle was like the end
Speaker 5: all be all for him, especially after he found love,
Speaker 5: and it was.
Speaker 6: Never established that she was actually going to give him anything.
Speaker 6: All she said was I'm gonna let you off the
Speaker 6: by releasing this fucking suicide letter.
Speaker 3: It didn't, but I think when she said everything throughout
Speaker 3: the movie, she was constantly still trying to get him.
Speaker 6: That's you trying to make this movie good. I didn't
Speaker 6: get that at all.
Speaker 5: Yep, and I built him out. But that's why she
Speaker 5: was there for him. No, she was there for him so.
Speaker 6: She would I'm at the jail. When she first went
Speaker 6: there and said I will do this, that was I know,
Speaker 6: I know, I know. That's so she could have all
Speaker 6: of his wealth. Even then, at no point was I like, oh,
Speaker 6: she's doing this because she wants him to Why would
Speaker 6: she want him?
Speaker 3: I think it flipped to getting all the wealth when
Speaker 3: he refused her advances. That's when she was like, all right, well,
Speaker 3: remember she said, we could have did this the other way,
Speaker 3: but since you don't want to do that, fucking I'm
Speaker 3: gonna just going to take everything.
Speaker 6: I never got everything meant I want you because then
Speaker 6: she okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I agree at that point. I didn't until the end
Speaker 1: of the movie and I was like, oh, she wanted
Speaker 1: him to that's.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying. I think that's you making this movie better.
Speaker 1: Established that from the beginning that she liked him.
Speaker 4: No, they didn't, you know, they didn't.
Speaker 1: She came kissed.
Speaker 4: She kissed him at the recital, leading him on that
Speaker 4: part money they never established.
Speaker 6: I think that was her knowing that he liked her,
Speaker 6: and that was her using and that goes to Rod's
Speaker 6: manipulation aspect.
Speaker 4: I don't think she ever liked him ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she likes the money and the power more, but
Speaker 1: she liked what he can do for her in that city.
Speaker 1: He didn't have money.
Speaker 4: He didn't have exactly right, he didn't have ship.
Speaker 1: She was using him.
Speaker 4: He had talent, but he did.
Speaker 1: Some parents.
Speaker 4: He had talent.
Speaker 1: What it was, It made it very clear. Yeah, he.
Speaker 4: Killed it, he killed it. She like the partition that
Speaker 4: she saw he was kind of like a little suff
Speaker 4: I think she saw him as a little stuff.
Speaker 5: And then, like you, the only thing she ever saw
Speaker 5: him was somebody that she can manipulates. That's fine, and
Speaker 5: she wants to continue to do that. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 5: reason she was outside. But there's nothing to manipulate at
Speaker 5: this point because he has nothing else for her.
Speaker 1: It maybe she may she may see something else for him.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's that's that's part two. I hated her.
Speaker 5: We got to the end of the movie though, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I agree, make you hate her. Sorry, I hated her
Speaker 5: and that was like, bro y'all.
Speaker 1: Don't get her out of here.
Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, this, Yeah, I was trying to close
Speaker 2: this out because it is like I didn't realize, like
Speaker 2: this shouldn't have gone this long.
Speaker 1: But interesting y'all were dragging out, oh, dragging it out.
Speaker 1: Interesting y'all were dragging out trash as well anyway, man,
Speaker 1: So so yeah, man, that's how it ended.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: Let me let us know if y'all like this or not. Man,
Speaker 1: if we you know, we're being too hard on it
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we just if y'all like Glen Powell and
Speaker 2: we just missing the mark on him, man, But I yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think we. I don't think we are, like
Speaker 2: I just he just doesn't do it. But yeah, man,
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