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Speaker 1: Why from Vall Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 2: Because you know, Jesse, the integrity of our democratic republic,

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Speaker 2: Knowing what had occurred previously, the things, this Russia hoax

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Speaker 2: This was obviously important to President Trump, but again is

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Speaker 2: an issue of importance to every single American in this

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Speaker 2: So shortly after coming into this position as Director of

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Speaker 2: I got to tell you, it wasn't easy. There were

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Speaker 2: a lot of deep state obstacles that exist still within

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Speaker 2: the intelligence community. But ultimately we had a whistleblower who

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Speaker 2: and we were able to discover these documents and find

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Speaker 2: these documents that really pointed to President Obama directing his

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Speaker 2: national security leaders in James Clapper and John Brennan to

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Speaker 3: The investigation that.

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Speaker 2: I led at od and I that we released last

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Speaker 4: Now there will be people who discuss that what Telsey Gabber,

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Speaker 4: the Director of National Intelligence, has put forth is absolutely

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Speaker 4: nothing new and there's nothing here that can bring about

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Speaker 4: I'm not so sure that criminal charges can be brought either,

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Speaker 4: But I think that the idea that this information has

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Speaker 4: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to.

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Speaker 3: Be with you.

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Speaker 4: There's a piece over there by National Review that I

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Speaker 3: I'll get to that as well.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of this information, it's not that

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Speaker 4: it's all necessarily new. I think there's a little more detail,

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Speaker 4: and for a lot of people this is the first.

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Speaker 4: And the reason it's the first time hearing it it

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Speaker 4: is because media works so aggressively to ensure you never

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Speaker 4: They never ever once said, hmm, this is worth investigating.

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Speaker 4: They never did a look into Russia, Russia, Russia, They

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Speaker 4: So I think all this is incredibly important. Of the

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Speaker 4: one of the more insane things that got said was

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Speaker 4: you could argue, well, some of this is about getting

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein off the front page. Oh that's not happening,

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Speaker 4: not happening at all. But the part, the reason that

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Speaker 4: Caroline Levitt and director Gabbard for doing this, was so

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Speaker 3: And the reason they're bothered by it.

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Speaker 4: Is that this is more, this is more of an

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Speaker 4: story as as the Chattermoan is noting CNN.

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Speaker 3: But I was talking about. One of the crazier things

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Speaker 4: Was Hillary Clinton. According to the Russians, they had this

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Speaker 4: information that Hillary Clinton was on tranquilizers. And you're like,

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Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton on tranquilizers? What kind of what kind of

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Speaker 4: And then you remember Hillary Clinton getting into the van.

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Speaker 3: Well, they had it recorded.

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Speaker 4: She is standing upright like very hard upright, like rigidly upright,

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Speaker 4: And who does he have with him, Randy Weingarten, who

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Speaker 4: of course worked to ensure your kids were kept out

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Speaker 3: And she's just yelling at you.

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Speaker 4: The only bills that solve problems in education are bills

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Speaker 3: After that or anything other than that, it can't actually

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Speaker 4: It is the problem, the whole and complete and total problem.

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Speaker 4: More is coming up. Keep it here on Tony Katz.

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Speaker 4: This is Tony Kats today. So, as I stated, the

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Speaker 4: Trump's in the in the in the Epstein files, why

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Speaker 4: who in the world would ever, ever ever believe this

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Speaker 4: Tony Katz? Tony Katz today, I'm not one of those people.

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Speaker 4: Of people I'm sure who are in the files, that

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Speaker 4: You got to keem Jeffrey saying the Republicans are supporting

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Speaker 4: And this is what happens when people aren't interested in

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of audio I haven't gotten to and

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Speaker 3: So let us let us share it? Shall we? On

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Speaker 3: this feel good Friday? It's now time for it. Tony

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Speaker 3: Katz audio dump. Yes, do you hear yourself? My god,

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Speaker 4: She really does a lot of stuff we don't get

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Speaker 4: Get to it. Starting with this insane mayor's race. I'll

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Speaker 6: We had Eric Adams on the show and he said

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Speaker 7: Him because he's unelectable. You know, he did not. He

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Speaker 3: You can't be a Cuomo and have shame. It just

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Speaker 10: Well, as for your second question, Caitlin, I think who

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Speaker 4: That this information that we've gotten, the more we've learned

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Speaker 4: The idea of the undermining is actually a false premise

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Speaker 4: But when Kaitlyn Collins from CNN positions it that way.

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Speaker 4: course is the conversation regarding Russia, Russia, Russia, there are

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, you go to the Middle East, where President Trump

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Speaker 4: focusing on and not having our focus taken away Tony Katz,

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Speaker 4: Tony Katz today, good to be with you. Noah Rothman

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Speaker 4: author of the Rise of the New Puritans, Fighting Back

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Speaker 4: against the Progressive's War on Fun and Unjust Social Justice

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Speaker 3: I have been.

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Speaker 4: Discussing, in kind of piecemeal part to Noah, the situation

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So, as I see it from the perspective of Washington,

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Speaker 11: So they will never allow for a contiguous, whole sovereign

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Speaker 11: stable region, and preferably one in which Syria has normalized

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Speaker 11: relations not just with its Arab partners, and it's Si

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Speaker 11: partners are in the region, but also Israelis. That's their vision,

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Speaker 11: that's their aspiration, and it's a fine aspiration, but it's

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Speaker 11: when I think the security establishment in the net Yahoo

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Speaker 11: government does not share and doesn't believe it is feasible.

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Speaker 11: So I don't think those two visions are reconcilable.

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Speaker 4: Talking to Noah Rossman of National Review, the piece Netan

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Speaker 4: Yahoo and Trump's are reconcilable differences over Syria. You can

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Speaker 4: get that at National Review dot com. That's one story.

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Speaker 4: The second story brings us back to the US. Two

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Speaker 4: revealing jokes highlight the Democrats' internal struggles, and then it's

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Speaker 4: a picture of Rama Manuel, the former chief of staff

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Speaker 4: of Barack Obama, and Zoron Mamdani, the communist Islamist who

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Speaker 4: might be very well the next mayor of New York.

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Speaker 4: I think the photos, what the headline was the joke like,

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Speaker 4: I thought that was well done and well played. But

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Speaker 4: this very much seems like a story when we talk

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Speaker 4: about Mamdani, who I've had people tell me, oh, there's

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Speaker 4: a possibility Cuomo could do this, and Eric Adams could

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Speaker 4: do that. And someone mentioned Curtis Sleewa, the Republican nominee,

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Speaker 4: and I laughed out loud. I don't see how Mamdani

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Speaker 4: does not become the mayor of New York. But this,

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Speaker 4: while they may be him parading him around d C

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Speaker 4: for fundraisers, there does seem to be a very non

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Speaker 4: spoken about divide within the Democratic Party about what kind

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Speaker 4: of people they want to be in, who they want

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Speaker 4: to attract. Talk to me about how rama Manuel plays

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Speaker 4: in this conversation.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well that one was The pieces on what I

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Speaker 11: said were two revealing jokes that weren't really jokes but

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Speaker 11: are maindicative of the kind of conditions that are prevailing

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Speaker 11: in the Democratic Party today. Emmanuel was on Megan Kelly's

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Speaker 11: show and she asked him some rather pointed questions about

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Speaker 11: gender politics, could men and women player? Could men play

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Speaker 11: in women's sports? Can men become women? All those sort

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Speaker 11: of things, to which Emmanuel, very smartly, knowing his audience,

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Speaker 11: knowing his interlocutor, didn't Hedge, gave him rather staccato, one

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Speaker 11: word answers no. Maybe sometimes there was a little bit

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Speaker 11: of hesitation, but there was generally no, And Kelly was impressed.

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Speaker 11: She goes, you know what was so hard about that,

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Speaker 11: and Epstein replies, well, because now I'm going to go

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Speaker 11: into the witness protection program.

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Speaker 3: Hahaha.

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Speaker 11: But there's true to it, right, The truth to that

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Speaker 11: is that there is menace abroad. There is teaste to

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Speaker 11: this regime, that there is enforcement, ruthless enforcement of gender

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Speaker 11: identity shibbalists, to which the Democratic Party subscribes that no

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Speaker 11: one else, And that's the sort of thing the consulting

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Speaker 11: class is trying to break the Democratic Party out of

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Speaker 11: of which Emmanuel is representative. But his confession there in

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Speaker 11: that very humorous side, is that you know, this is

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Speaker 11: an uphill battle because the forces are rayed against it

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Speaker 11: are real and have real teeth and are going to

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Speaker 11: come after me. The humor is in the exaggeration of

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Speaker 11: the nature of the threat but the threat is real.

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Speaker 11: And the other joke comes from Zoramumdani a resurfaced video

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Speaker 11: of his address to the Democratic Socialists a convention of

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Speaker 11: Democratic Socialists, and it sounds like the Twelfth Party Congress,

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Speaker 11: like it is the Presidium of the Soviet Union in

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Speaker 11: this thing. But in it he's introducing a failed candidate

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Speaker 11: for New York City Council and he says, if you

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Speaker 11: don't clap for this guy quote, you're a Zionist. The

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Speaker 11: joke did not land very well, and he said, you

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Speaker 11: don't have to clap. You know, this is a joke.

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Speaker 11: He got clactor as a consolation prize. But the joke

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Speaker 11: is also revealing. It's revealing of the degree to which

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Speaker 11: the Zionist in that construction is the bad guy, the holy, irredeemable,

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Speaker 11: ideologically captured, blinkered individual with whom you cannot negotiate. That's

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Speaker 11: in Mount Donnie's worldview. And to your point earlier, when

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Speaker 11: you had noted that there is a little bit of

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Speaker 11: tension within this, I think Emmanuel is representative of that tension,

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Speaker 11: in part because he's a Zionist, his father's and Israeli.

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Speaker 11: But there's also some pushback against Mamdani within the Democratic

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Speaker 11: Party that has become rather vocal of Late yesterday, Pennsylvania

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Speaker 11: Governor Joshapiro came out with a pretty strong rebuke of

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Speaker 11: Mamdani and his refusal to condemn Hamas, saying that the leaves,

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Speaker 11: you know, creates the conditions in which, you know, extreme

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Speaker 11: actors can rise and engage in the stabilizing behaviors and

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Speaker 11: violent behaviors. And in a city, New York City in

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Speaker 11: which there was an one hundred and ten percent increase

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Speaker 11: in anti Semitic incidence is in twenty twenty three, followed

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Speaker 11: by a forty five percent increase over that in twenty

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Speaker 11: twenty four. There's real apprehension in the city over anti

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Speaker 11: semitism and anti Semitic violence. And it's the sort of

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Speaker 11: thing that Shapiro is right to give voice too. There's

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Speaker 11: a significant Democratic constituency for that message.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny, I but again, there's teeth.

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Speaker 11: You know, there's teeth. There's a lot of puzz pressure,

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Speaker 11: social pressure on Democrats who avoid saying this much out.

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Speaker 4: Loud, and well, I still got a minute with you.

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Speaker 4: I think that's the part that more struck me here.

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Speaker 4: You know, the conversation about the jokes. Notwithstanding it's that

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Speaker 4: these are it's don't get me wrong, rom Emmanuel is

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Speaker 4: a progressive, absolutely never let a crisis go to waste,

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Speaker 4: and he followed that up with because it allows you

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Speaker 4: to do things you normally couldn't do. He was very

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Speaker 4: clear about what he meant when he engaged that quote.

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Speaker 4: And people always forget the second part, but it is

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Speaker 4: part and parcel of the how fast you're moving to

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Speaker 4: the left that Mamdani is the full recognition of their progressive,

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Speaker 4: nake communist desires, and Rama Manuel is still in the

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Speaker 4: you know, there's an America here that we're going to

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Speaker 4: need their votes to get on much larger issues.

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Speaker 3: And that's where I kind of kind of took it that.

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Speaker 4: This this these two people that you're talking about, both

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Speaker 4: making these these honest statements about levels of a bigotry

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Speaker 4: or insanity as I would call them, they still are very,

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Speaker 4: very different in the kind of democratic party they're trying

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Speaker 4: to put together. Whether one is honest and one is

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Speaker 4: is kind of still trying to obfuscate, or one is

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Speaker 4: clear headed and one is radically ideological. This this divide

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Speaker 4: is real, and I don't think and I would get

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Speaker 4: your thoughts. Have the Democrats figured out how they're going

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Speaker 4: to square this circle now?

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Speaker 11: And they're but they're trying. I mean, there's no I

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Speaker 11: don't I'm hesitant to say that there's an obvious answer

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Speaker 11: to the big question that's royaling Democrats right now, which

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Speaker 11: is do you have to moderate? Do you have to

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Speaker 11: appeal to the middle. Do you have to abandon some

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Speaker 11: of these progressive, wild eyed social policies, for example, as

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Speaker 11: well as economic policies and foreign policies that alienated so

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Speaker 11: many voters, Or can you muscle through your vision and

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Speaker 11: exploit your opponent's mistakes to the extent that, regardless of

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Speaker 11: whether you're not especially representative of the median American voter,

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Speaker 11: that you can still enjoy electoral success. I don't think

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Speaker 11: there's an answer to that question.

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Speaker 4: The Ohio Supreme Court Chief Justice appointed law school deans,

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Speaker 4: Republican lawmakers, staffers, and court personnel to a committee charged

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Speaker 4: with reviewing the accreditation process of the state's nine law schools,

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Speaker 4: a task currently done by the American Bar Association, but

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Speaker 4: they're under fire. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to

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Speaker 4: be with you. This comes from tax profit blog. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if you've ever seen what Paul Karen does.

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Speaker 4: The dean there Pepperdine, the Crusoe School of Loss, an

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Speaker 4: excellent block, really is terrific. The story here is that

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Speaker 4: the American Bar Association is not to be treated like

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Speaker 4: it's some kind of vaunted institution that is on high

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Speaker 4: and above reproach.

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 4: This is not a great organization and they haven't been

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Speaker 4: doing great work. As the quick reporting goes, the committee's

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Speaker 4: work will focus on quote, identifying potential opportunities for innovation

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Speaker 4: in light of the evolving needs of the legal profession.

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Speaker 4: Maybe the ABA doesn't need to be the one who

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Speaker 4: does the accreditation of law schools.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's a mistake.

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Speaker 4: I love this because these are the things happening under

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Speaker 4: the radar that getting back to some levels of normal

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Speaker 4: and getting away from the woke. Pay attention to the story.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna matter for your legal rights. This is Tony

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Speaker 4: Kats today.

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Speaker 10: You have