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Speaker 1: When you have concentrated power and access inside a massive

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Speaker 1: public institution, danger danger, red flags. So we've got to

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Speaker 1: talk about the resignation of Walter ted Carter Junior as

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Speaker 1: the president of the Ohio State University over inappropriate relationship.

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Speaker 1: That's the inappropriate relationship. It was with someone who was

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Speaker 1: seeking public resources from the university. So the president of

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Speaker 1: the Ohio State University was having a relationship with a

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Speaker 1: person who was seeking resources from the university to support

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Speaker 1: her personal business.

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Speaker 2: Yikes.

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Speaker 3: Again, the Costanza defense is that wrong? Should I not

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Speaker 3: have done that? I got to plead ignorance here because

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Speaker 3: if I had known that that was frowned upon, I

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Speaker 3: never would have anything like that. I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: we talked about it earlier. This is how seriously that

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Speaker 3: Michigan Ohio State rivalry is. Michigan football head coach had

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Speaker 3: an inappropriate relationship, got fired from his job last year.

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Speaker 3: Ohio States like, hey, we want in on some of that.

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Speaker 3: We'll do even better our presidents having an inappropriate relationship.

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Speaker 1: He told the Board of trustees that he quote made

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Speaker 1: a mistake in allowing inappropriate access to Ohio State leadership,

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Speaker 1: and then he offered to resign you think this is yeah,

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Speaker 1: got out.

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Speaker 3: I am so sick of university scandals. I am so

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Speaker 3: sick of these universities that in most instances suck up

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Speaker 3: billions and billions of tax dollars across the country. Constant

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Speaker 3: scandals happening at these universities, and it seems like nobody

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Speaker 3: cares and nobody wants to hold them accountable. For starters,

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Speaker 3: they were completely overrun by pro Palestinian and pro Hamas protesters.

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Speaker 3: A lot of criminal acts took place during that very

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Speaker 3: little was done to stop that. You had the admission scandal,

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Speaker 3: remember that before COVID, the Varsity Blues admission scandal, where

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Speaker 3: you had celebrities and rich people that were giving a

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Speaker 3: bunch of money to get their kids into these elite institutions.

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Speaker 3: The dean of medicine at USC was found to allegedly

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Speaker 3: be using illegal narcotics on school property.

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Speaker 2: And USC covered it up.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, it seems like every time we turn

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Speaker 3: around everything. Oh and then when Trump got into office,

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Speaker 3: he was very upset that these elite universities were ignoring

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court rulings and still using race in their admissions process.

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Speaker 3: Now Trump, finally, somebody Trump did something about that and

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Speaker 3: basically strong armed them and forced them into a whole

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Speaker 3: bunch of settlements, not only with the financial penalties, but

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Speaker 3: also forcing them to change their acts. So I just

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Speaker 3: somebody needs to do something to hold these universities accountable,

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Speaker 3: because every time we turn around, there's another massive scandal.

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Speaker 1: I wish somebody somewhere would do something. Well, it turns

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Speaker 1: out that this guy held himself accountable because he resigned.

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Speaker 1: It was accepted at a special board meeting, became effective immediately.

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Speaker 1: He'd only been in the job since January of twenty four,

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Speaker 1: so not that long, and already just saw the power

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Speaker 1: and influence he was wielding and said, yeah, I can

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Speaker 1: use this to my own personal benefit, and so did

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Speaker 1: the person he was having the inappropriate relationship with. He

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Speaker 1: was the university's seventeenth president. Of course, Ohio State one

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Speaker 1: of the nation's largest universities, over sixty thousand students. They

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Speaker 1: got a big budget, so this is a major leadership

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Speaker 1: shake up. The board has not named a replacement yet,

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Speaker 1: and they've got other people that are going to handle

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Speaker 1: the day to day operations while they searched for a

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Speaker 1: new president. But I mean, come on, you've got another

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Speaker 1: university leader crossing ethical lines, and this time involving public resources, involving.

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Speaker 2: State tax payer dollars. Well, that's what it is, so

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Speaker 2: very similar to.

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Speaker 3: You know, when Trump cracked down on a lot of

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Speaker 3: the Ivy League universities and you know, them ignoring certain

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court rulings and still using race in their admissions process.

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Speaker 3: What he did was basically threatened with old federal research

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Speaker 3: funding and expenditures against them, and that all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: And that's the way you're gonna that's the only way

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Speaker 3: we're gonna hold these universities accountable is you got to

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Speaker 3: hit them where it counts, and that's financially. And so

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Speaker 3: Trump Trump threatened to pull all of that funding, forced

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Speaker 3: a lot of them into ultimately settlements.

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Speaker 2: But Ohio State University.

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Speaker 3: How much money do you think they got from the

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Do you have that number? I have the numbers.

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Speaker 3: So this is this is just Ohio State University money

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Speaker 3: they got from the federal government for research expenditures.

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Speaker 2: And this is just for twenty twenty five. How much, right?

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Speaker 2: At eight hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Eight nearly a billion dollars went to Ohio State University.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, not only did this guy have

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Speaker 3: just resigned, that's bad enough, but it looks like he

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Speaker 3: was funneling money to his quote unquote girlfriends ye organizations,

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Speaker 3: So that's the part.

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Speaker 2: So it's more than just so you know, to see

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Speaker 2: a Michigan football coach.

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Speaker 3: That's one thing he was, you know, had the inappropriate

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Speaker 3: relationship with the staffer.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely bad, terrible. You gotta go. President of Ohio State

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Speaker 2: has that inappropriate relationship with the.

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Speaker 3: Staffers, plus sending her organization tons and tons of money.

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Speaker 2: So this is twice as bad as what happened to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, stepping down the right call leaders at these institutions

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Speaker 1: they got to be held they should be held to

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Speaker 1: a higher standard, especially when you're talking about that large

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Speaker 1: amount of money and a taxpayer money