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Speaker 1: And yes, yes, indeed, on this Monday, I am about

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Speaker 1: a monumental task to accomplish that feat in taking on

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Speaker 2: I get all of it.

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Speaker 1: But Miami stout, They've got a great defense, they have

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Speaker 2: But are we not at the point now where you

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Speaker 1: You would be an absolute fool at this point if

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Speaker 2: On Friday evening, Good afternoon to you. My name is Jake.

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Speaker 1: Query, Nathaniel, don't call me Atticus. Finch is the other

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Speaker 3: And here was Pat's reasoning, Atticus Finch is the big

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Speaker 2: Now, I did see some.

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Speaker 1: If I'm wrong in this, but the conspiracy theory I

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Speaker 1: Now are regular staffers and employees that are also there

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Speaker 1: for those and I saw, I didn't see much green

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Speaker 1: at all inside Mercedes Benz Stadium. But for those of

436
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Speaker 1: us that were not there, can you just kind of

437
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: recap I guess the overall energy and excitement for Indiana

438
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: fans down in Atlanta.

439
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 5: Well, it was special, There's no question about it, Jake.

440
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 5: Much like Pasadena, it was packed with Indiana fans, perhaps

441
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 5: even more so than it was in Pasadena.

442
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Speaker 6: We thought it was about an eighty.

443
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Speaker 5: Percent Indiana crowd at Pasadena, and I think this was

444
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 5: probably about a ninety to ninety five percent crowd in Atlanta.

445
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 5: It was just phenomenal, and the Who's your Nation there's

446
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 5: no doubt they're on board. It is the most impactful

447
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 5: performance of the season in the sense of what Indiana

448
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 5: has been able to do this year, I guess in

449
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 5: the history of Indiana football, of what they've been able

450
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 5: to do this season, and without question, I think everybody

451
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 5: is just as excited about what's.

452
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Speaker 1: Happened in Miami coming up on Monday, Don I wanted

453
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: to kind of tip the cap here to an area

454
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Speaker 1: and you know, listen, Obviously, Fernanda Mendoza is tremendous. I mean,

455
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Speaker 1: it goes without saying we know that, and the receivers

456
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: that he throws to continue to emerge and make great plays.

457
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Speaker 1: But to me, at least on this radio program, and

458
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Speaker 1: I'm at fault here, I don't know that I have

459
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: given enough credit to Indiana's running game. And I think

460
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: that that taking nothing away from Mendoza, but so much

461
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: of that is facilitated also that symbiotic relationship. But it

462
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: doesn't matter whose number gets called. Those running backs run really,

463
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Speaker 1: really hard. Have we overlooked is the wrong word, but

464
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: have we given enough credit to the running game for Indiana?

465
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 5: Probably not Jay, just because it is such an important

466
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 5: role that they play and the balance that Indiana's showed

467
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 5: this year, both running and passing the football, and then

468
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 5: running the football when you need to run it, you know,

469
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 5: when you got to put a game away, you want

470
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 5: to take away the clock and all those kinds of things.

471
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 5: This running game is spectacular in that vein, and yeah,

472
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Speaker 5: they throw a pass in there every now and then

473
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 5: just to keep the drive going. But generally speaking, what

474
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 5: Indiana has been doing to most teams here in the

475
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 5: second half of ball games is just taking their will

476
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 5: away with the fact that you can't get the ball

477
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 5: away from them number one, and by the time that

478
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 5: you do get it back, the game is out of hand.

479
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 5: And that's one of the reasons this team's really really

480
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 5: good at this point in the season. And the balance

481
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 5: that they've showed this year, it's pretty amazing. If you

482
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 5: look at the passing yards per ballgame, they've had two

483
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 5: hundred and forty two about two hundred and forty three

484
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 5: yards a game. In the rushing department, they've had two

485
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 5: hundred and eighteen yards of ball game. You don't get

486
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 5: much more balanced than that, Jake. So when I look

487
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 5: at this run game, it's just as important as a

488
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 5: passing attack.

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Speaker 1: Don I'm going to assume here, which can be dangerous, right,

490
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Speaker 1: But UCLA was undefeated in nineteen fifty four in college football,

491
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Speaker 1: they shared the national championship. I believe that year in

492
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four they were undefeated in basketball. I don't

493
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: know if they had the same play by play voice

494
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: for both sports over those ten years, but either way,

495
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: it would put you in a company of two. But

496
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: I believe company of one of play by play broadcast

497
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: voices that have been part of the chance to win

498
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: a national championship unblemished in both football and basketball. Have

499
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Speaker 1: you had a chance to really absorb just the overall

500
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Speaker 1: accomplishment and anomaly of that within the athletic department.

501
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Speaker 6: You know, I have.

502
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Speaker 5: I'm not looked at it that closely. I've heard a

503
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 5: couple of people talk about it here recently, but I

504
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 5: haven't looked it up myself. I don't know what the

505
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 5: stats are, and that I don't know who I was Ucla.

506
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Speaker 6: I'm beaten that year in football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ucla was nine to ohero and fifty five. I

508
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: think they had a tie, but they were nine zho

509
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,479
Speaker 1: to one in fifty four and they were you know,

510
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: back then, you just had the two polls right, and

511
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: they were one.

512
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Speaker 2: Of the two Poles national champions.

513
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Speaker 6: Yes, and so they won the national championship in a p.

514
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: Correct, that is correct. Yes, that's the only school that's

515
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: done it in both sports.

516
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Speaker 5: Yeah, in India, and of course has had the last

517
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 5: undefeated national champion in basketball since nineteen seventy six, and

518
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 5: this was the fiftieth anniversary of that. So for it

519
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 5: for this to happen, if Indiana wins the national championship,

520
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 5: they do it. They do it fifty years after the

521
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 5: basketball team did it, which is kind of phenomenal or ironic,

522
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 5: I guess I should say in itself.

523
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Speaker 1: You know, it's the team in basketball that did it,

524
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: done a little bit apples and oranges, because they had

525
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: obviously been undefeated in seventy five in the regular season.

526
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: They lost to Kentucky in the regional finals. So there

527
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: was a lot of hope and hype and expectation, I

528
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: would assume in seventy six. But for you to witness,

529
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: I guess kind of both. I know you were new

530
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: to the Indiana scene at that time, so too was

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Speaker 1: Bob Knight though, and now what Kurt Signetti has done

532
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: with the football program. Are there any parallels at all

533
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Speaker 1: between the two or is it simply the anomaly of

534
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: the statistics of it that link it well.

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Speaker 5: Without question being if both end up unbeaten, that will

536
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 5: link them forever.

537
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 6: There's no question about that.

538
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 5: But you know, it's hard for me to answer that,

539
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 5: to be quite honest about it, I just I mean,

540
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 5: from a basketball there are two different sports. Number one,

541
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 5: the team sports, which is key, and that's always a

542
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 5: big thing. But from my standpoint, I try not to

543
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 5: gauge it in that way, I guess is the way

544
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 5: to say it.

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Speaker 6: I just look at it as this.

546
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Speaker 5: Being the biggest phenomenally about this right now is the

547
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 5: incredible turnaround.

548
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 6: And I hate that word because it just doesn't do justice.

549
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 5: But the incredible turnaround of this football program in two

550
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 5: seasons under a coach who I don't think there's any

551
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 5: question is asked in the country, and I think he's

552
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 5: going to end up winning every single Coach of the

553
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 5: Year award that's out there, and I think there are

554
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 5: eight of those, and I think the last one takes

555
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 5: place after the championship game.

556
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: Listen, he absolutely is the coach of the Coach of

557
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: the century at this point.

558
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: Right, I mean in terms of Coach of the Year.

559
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: But don one of the things about this Indiana team,

560
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: and we've talked a lot about this, you know, just

561
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: their overall the preparation and the precision and a guy

562
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: that you had mentioned in the broadcast I heard you mentioned,

563
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, just what an impressive performance he had. But

564
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: considering that he was out and now is back and

565
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: was a guy that you know, came in with no

566
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: stars and out of high school and everything else, can

567
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: you kind of touch on for our listeners the timing

568
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: that has taken place in the the relationship on the

569
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Speaker 1: field between Mendoza and Elijah Sarrat, because seemingly, you put

570
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: the ball in the area of Elijah Surrat and he

571
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: is going to make the play. The guy's been phenomenal,

572
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: but there also just seems to be this like almost

573
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: you know, telekinetic relationship between he and the quarterback itself.

574
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: How much time away from the games itself has gone

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Speaker 1: into that precision between those two.

576
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Speaker 5: Well, I know this when Fernando came to my campus

577
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 5: in the spring and I got to see him practice

578
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 5: in spring and those kinds of things. I knew that

579
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 5: he was a hard worker, that was, without questioning, something

580
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 5: that Kurtz and Getty values. But on top of that,

581
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 5: he had the skill set, the talent level to be

582
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 5: a tremendous quarterback. He was stuggling a little bit at

583
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 5: that time because of what he had to suffer at

584
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 5: California from a pressure standpoint from other teams, because their

585
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 5: offensive line was apparently not good at all.

586
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Speaker 6: And I don't want to say terrible because I don't

587
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 6: know that, but it couldn't have been very good.

588
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 5: He got pressured, or at least he got sacked forty

589
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 5: plus times during that season, So he knew that he

590
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 5: was going to have a little bit of happy feed,

591
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 5: and he did early on, but he worked through that

592
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 5: through the fall, or through the spring, I should say,

593
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 5: was much buchet as the spring ended. And then I

594
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 5: know from the passing standpoint, the seven on seven drills,

595
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 5: all those kinds of things that took place during the summer.

596
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 5: These guys worked their tails off, and Elijah Sarat's one

597
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 5: of those guys. He's a gym rat anyway, is the

598
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 5: only way to term it, to make people understand how

599
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 5: much time he spends on his craft. And Elijah Sarrat

600
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 5: has been an all American every place he's been, not

601
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 5: just here in Indiana. He was All American at James

602
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 5: Madison and I think before that, I think he played

603
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 5: I can't remember exactly where he played, but he was

604
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 5: an All American at that level. So this is a

605
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 5: guy who works constantly, and Mendoza did exactly the same thing.

606
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Speaker 5: That's where that timing and that kind of precision comes

607
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 5: from is the hard work those guys put it in

608
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 5: in the offseason.

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Speaker 2: Don.

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Speaker 1: I thought Oregon did a nice job of responding after

611
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Speaker 1: the pick six that started the game. Listen, I'm not

612
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: going to lie to Don, and I know you hate

613
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: my predictions, but when D'Angelo Pons had that pick, I

614
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: turned around to Shannon right then I said, this game's over.

615
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: It's over. I mean, it just felt that it was

616
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: like here we go. But I thought Oregon responded very

617
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: nicely in that next drive and they, you know, Dante

618
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: Moore took them down the field. Indiana's ability to kind

619
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: of regroup from that once Oregon was able to go

620
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 1: down the field and then really cement themselves and take

621
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: control of that game from their forward, I thought was impressive.

622
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Speaker 1: But was there any point this season that you can

623
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Speaker 1: look back on and say that game, or that moment

624
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: or that test paid off for Indiana in that response

625
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Speaker 1: against Oregon.

626
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Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

627
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Speaker 5: What I'm asking, well, basically, does this team respond? Do

628
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 5: they respond to the net for the for the negative

629
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 5: from the negatives?

630
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Speaker 6: You know what I mean? Is that what I'm saying?

631
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

632
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Speaker 1: And is there was there one game that you can

633
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: look back on and say it paid dividend, Whether maybe

634
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: it was Iowa, you know, or but one of them

635
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: where you can say they were that's that's where they

636
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: were truly tested and that paid off for them with

637
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: their response against Oregon.

638
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think you could say that about

639
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 5: the Iowa game, but I think you could say about

640
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 5: the Oregon game since those two games were back to

641
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 5: back with one weekend between. But both of those games,

642
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 5: Indiana had to respond, whether it was on the defensive

643
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 5: side or the offensive side, they had to respond and

644
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 5: be able to fight through the adversity and the negativity

645
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 5: of that situation. Both of those ball games, in my mind,

646
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 5: were the critical games that they played this season and

647
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 5: proved to themselves that this team was special and they've

648
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 5: played like her special ever since.

649
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 6: Those two ballgames.

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Speaker 1: Don Fisher will be on the call Monday night, just

651
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: as he has always known would be the case, and

652
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: a college football national championship for the Indiana Fighting Hoosiers.

653
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: On the football side of things, it's been an unbelievable run, Don,

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Speaker 1: And you know, one of the and I mean this,

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Speaker 1: there was a there was a lady Yester. I don't

656
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Speaker 1: know if you saw this, Don in Jacksonville. There was

657
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Speaker 1: a reporter that got into the press conference or got

658
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: into she was a credential media member that after the

659
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Speaker 1: game was talking to the coach for Jacksonville in the

660
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Speaker 1: press conference and saying how proud she was of him

661
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Speaker 1: and keep your head up and that kind of thing.

662
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: And people question whether or not that was the appropriate

663
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: place to say it. So with that, I'm just going

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Speaker 1: to go ahead. I think this is the appropriate time

665
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Speaker 1: to say it. And that is that in listening to

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Speaker 1: the pitch of the moment, the excitement of the moment

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Speaker 1: for Indiana fans, Don, your voice that has been so

668
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: iconic in such a part of Indiana athletics for so long,

669
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: is so perfect for the energy level, the excitement and

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Speaker 1: just the payoff of all of the years of Indiana

671
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: football For this moment, and as great as it is

672
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: to watch the game, and as great as it is

673
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: to see the excitement and to see the fans and

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Speaker 1: to see the posts, hearing your voice describe the action

675
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: and the energy in it is literally like chicken noodle

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00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: soup for the soul for Indiana fans. So we look

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00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: forward to one more for this particular season. Hopefully it's

678
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: going to be a win. But thank you as always

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Speaker 1: for not only your time, but also for the energy

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Speaker 1: of those calls.

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Speaker 5: Well, I can tell you this, Jake, the energy of

682
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 5: my calls comes from that football team right now, and

683
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 5: it did the same when I was able to do

684
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 5: basketball games for IU back in the day when Bob

685
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 5: Knight was a coach and they won three national titles.

686
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 5: That's the blessing of my kind of job, is to

687
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Speaker 5: be able to be a part of something like that,

688
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 5: and I will always be eternally grateful to the Good

689
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Speaker 5: Lord for that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Don We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: We'll be listening Monday night from Miami between the Hurricanes

692
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: and Indiana for all the marbles. Always a pleasure, Don

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Speaker 1: and certainly look forward to listening on Monday.

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Speaker 6: Appreciate it, Jake, thanks for having me.

695
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: Don Fisher, the voice of the Hoosiers joining us on

696
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: the Java House Peel and poor guest line. It is remarkable.

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00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. Mike Chapa going to join

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00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: us coming up at one o'clock. Do you say Sean

699
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: McDonough's going to join us on the program.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, one thirty.

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Speaker 1: He was on the call from the television side of things.

702
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: He will join us at one thirty today. And then

703
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: Bill Benner I want to talk to because not only

704
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: does Bill Benner deserve some flowers as well, because he

705
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: is a guy that has been sitting out in freezing

706
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: rain watching Lorenzo Write and Blake or Lorenzo White and

707
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: Blake is Blake ezor for Michigan State run all over Indiana.

708
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: I mean, years and years and years and years of

709
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: misery essentially watching Indiana football. But I wanted to talk

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00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: to Bill Benner not just to allow him to kind

711
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: of celebrate this run, but also to continue to give

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Speaker 1: perspective as to what it means, because I do think

713
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Speaker 1: there's an interesting dichotomy taking place with Indiana football, and

714
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Speaker 1: it's aside from that of the discussion of the team itself,

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Speaker 1: and I think Bill Benner represents it. I'll explain what

716
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about on the other side. Chap coming up

717
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Speaker 1: just about fifteen minutes from.

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Speaker 4: Now, Query in company on Nutty three five and one

719
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Speaker 4: oh seven five the fan.

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Speaker 1: John almost took that tease, as we call in the

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Speaker 1: business all the way to three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: That's cool. He's got a loaded show coming up three o'clock.

723
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Speaker 1: A lot to talk about pacers and action t I

724
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Speaker 1: taking on the Celtics at the Fieldhouse.

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Speaker 2: PACER's one two in a row. Don't look now, don't

726
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Speaker 2: look now.

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Speaker 1: But they need to get one of those top three picks,

728
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: by the way, for what that's worth. Good afternoon to you,

729
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: Jay Quarry along with Nathaniel don't call me Atticus Finch.

730
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Speaker 1: I was talking about Indiana and one of the kind

731
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Speaker 1: of a dichotomy here, and I wish I wasn't this way.

732
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Speaker 1: I wish I wasn't the way of being cynical. Easiest

733
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Speaker 1: way to say it.

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Speaker 2: I wish I was it naturally cynical.

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Speaker 1: And that's not to say that I'm cynical in the

736
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: form of everything's a joke to me.

737
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: I just for whatever reason, and believe you me.

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Speaker 1: If you folks listening right now, think that's difficult at

739
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: times to listen to. Trust me, it's equally difficult sometimes

740
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Speaker 1: to process. And by that I mean I'm always I'm

741
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: not a conspiracy theorist. I'm really not, I promise you,

742
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: But I'm always kind of looking around the corner at

743
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: like the other side of something, or the other vantage

744
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: point of something, or what it would look like from

745
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Speaker 1: the other side of the lens. And this particular improbable

746
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: run of Indiana, and I don't think that for Indiana,

747
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: it's an improbable run per se right now. In other words,

748
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Speaker 1: Indiana winning here these two games in the college football Playoff,

749
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Speaker 1: that shouldn't surprise you. If you're surprised by that at

750
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Speaker 1: this point, I don't know where you've been. They won

751
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: at Oregon, they beat Ohio State, they won when their

752
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: back was against the wall against Penn State, even for

753
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: that matter, against Iowa. I mean that game against Iowa,

754
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: they were all but done and they managed to win.

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00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: Okay, so.

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00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: All of those things right now, you shouldn't be surprised.

757
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: But in terms of if you go back two years

758
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: ago to the time that Kurt Signetti was brought in,

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Speaker 1: or even for that matter, when they were going into

760
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: Columbus a year ago and I think they were eight

761
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: to zero at that point, and it still was incredulous

762
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: that they were in that position historically, speaking as I

763
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, to give you perspective on how far Indiana

764
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: has had to come, and yeah, the past is irrelevant.

765
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Speaker 1: But if you want to know why it is that

766
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Speaker 1: people are in like coming out of the woodwork for

767
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 1: this number one, it's because Indiana football has just never

768
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: long term given anybody anything to latch onto.

769
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: They've had flashes, for sure.

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00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: Bill Mallory was a phenomenal football coach and a great

771
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: ambassador and representative of the university. And Lee Corso was

772
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: an energetic, upbeat guy. Cam Cameron was an offensive visionary

773
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: that everybody thought it would work out and he was

774
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Speaker 1: one of their own. And Bill Lynch is an Indiana

775
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: football guy through and through, so to is Tom Allen.

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean under any stretch of the imagination

777
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Speaker 1: that it would be expected that it would ever come

778
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: to this with Kurt Signetti and the cynic in me.

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00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 1: Look at this fanfare, and I'm sure pur New fans

780
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: have to feel this way. You see this fanfare in

781
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: this overpore of support of every I mean literally, Atlanta

782
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 1: was Bloomington South.

783
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: It was unbelievable.

784
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Speaker 1: I wasn't there, But I mean, I'm literally the only

785
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: of my group of friends from high school and college

786
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: that wasn't there.

787
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Speaker 2: And the same will be true.

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00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: In Miami, even though obviously you're gonna have the tickets

789
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: are far more expensive. But I know a lot of

790
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: people that got their alumni association email and they were

791
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: able to get tickets, and there's gonna be a huge

792
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: throng of.

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00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: Indiana fans again.

794
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: But the cynic in me also looks at it and says,

795
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: were these people Indiana football fans that just like didn't

796
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: express it because there was no reason to express it prior?

797
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: Or are the Indiana football fans that literally finally put

798
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: their Notre Dame gear back up in the attic for

799
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: good two years ago. I don't think I think it

800
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: matters either way. That's the natural cynic in me though,

801
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: to point that it doesn't matter either way. If you

802
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: went to Indiana, you're a fan of Indiana, you're an

803
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 1: IU fan, whatever it might be. Indiana fans are starting

804
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 1: to figure out now that having a great football team

805
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 1: is really fun.

806
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: It is.

807
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: Tailgating for an Indian for a football game, no matter where.

808
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: It is tailgating for football when the sun is crisp

809
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: and it's a beautiful day and the sky is blue.

810
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: That is more fun than driving down the old thirty

811
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: seven or State Road sixty nine in nine degree weather

812
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: with spitting ice to go watch Indiana Minnesota on a

813
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: Tuesday night. In basketball, it just is. And the basketball programs,

814
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I love the you know, I mean I

815
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: grew up. The year that my dad won season tickets

816
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: for IU in eighty nine was one of the best

817
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: years of my life. We went to every single game,

818
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: loved everything about it. And there was something about Chuck

819
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: Crab saying, ladies and gentlemen, the state police remind us

820
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: that snow has fallen over the course of the basketball game,

821
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: please use caution, and leaving the assembly hall that was

822
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: a right of a package. But standing out in front

823
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: of the stadium, having a couple of surf sides hanging

824
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: out before the game, people are figuring out it.

825
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 2: Indiana.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty fun. You know what's even more fun actually

827
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: going in the game and watching our team win. The challenge, then,

828
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: is for people to look at it and question the

829
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 1: authenticity of the fan base.

830
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 2: But I look at it and say, who cares?

831
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: But I asked over the course of the weekend, who

832
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: is your favorite Indiana football player? Pre Signetti? And it

833
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: was a great thing to ask, because until the bot

834
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: Farm got a hold of it, it was There were

835
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: great and I was pleasantly surprised by the number of

836
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Speaker 1: people that had responses that showed that they have been

837
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: fans beyond just two weeks ago or two years ago

838
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: or two months ago. Kellen Lewis got a ton of votes,

839
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Speaker 1: and I did say outside of Antoine Randelel and Anthony Thompson,

840
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: because those are gift There were five hundred and fifty

841
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: one replies. Five hundred and fifty one people replied. Tevin

842
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: Coleman got a ton of votes. Trent Green, who if

843
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: he wasn't on this morning, is going to be on

844
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: this week on the On the Fan morning show. I'm

845
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: not sure if that was this morning or coming up

846
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: this week. Ernie Jones and Dave Schnell great ones. My

847
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: buddy Scott McConnell pointed those out and they were great players.

848
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: In eighty seven, the eyesen Burgers goes without saying Levron Williams,

849
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 1: Trendon DAWs was a great player who had forgotten about

850
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: And like I said, a lot of people said, Kellen Lewis,

851
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: that was a really good one.

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00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:42,959
Speaker 2: A really good one.

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00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Several people said Chris Dido, friend of the show, Jordan Howard,

855
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: really good one. He was a very good player. Van Waiters,

856
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: who I liked a lot. Great player. Nobody has said

857
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: Mike Dumas, which surprised me. But a guy that got

858
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: a ton of votes. And finally I said, you know what,

859
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: let's get him on the show because he was he

860
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: may have been. Let me see, Thomas Lewis might have

861
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: been Indiana's last first round pick. That will change this year.

862
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: Prior to that, there are first round picks. They had

863
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: a couple of you know, linemen that have gone in

864
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: the first round. But Von dunbar Fort Wayne Snyder drafted

865
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: into the NFL New Orleans and Jacksonville. I think he

866
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: tore his knee. Now living in the Atlanta area, and

867
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Speaker 1: I think he's going to join the show this week.

868
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: But I was sitting here thinking that Indiana football fans

869
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: were all just Notre Dame fans in disguise it's like

870
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: Scooby Doo, you tear the mask off and you're like, look,

871
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: it's you could have gotten away with still pulling for

872
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: a Notre dame if it wasn't for these medaling kids.

873
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: But when I asked that question and I saw the

874
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: number of responses and I saw the names within, that's

875
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: what told me. You know what, there are people that

876
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,240
Speaker 1: have been waiting and enjoyed this for a long time

877
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: and the cynicon me needs to go away. NFL playoffs?

878
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: What's it tell us in terms of the Colts Chapel

879
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: break it down?

880
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 4: Next query in company on ninety three five and one

881
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 4: oh seven five.

882
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: The fan NFL playoffs are in full swing now.

883
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: I did.

884
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: I will allow Nathaniel to be judge and jury on this.

885
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: I was very interested to see with Jacksonville what was

886
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: going to take place, because you know, Trevor Lawrence in

887
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: the last what six to eight weeks finally kind of

888
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: stepped into becoming the player that it was anticipated he

889
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: would be when he was made the number one overall

890
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: selection in the NFL Draft coming out of Clemson, and

891
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: he has I had turnover issues over the course of

892
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: his career. I will begin Nathaniel by asking you, did

893
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: you watch the end of the Jacksonville Buffalo game?

894
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 2: By chance Nathaniel, I did, Yeah, I watch the whole thing.

895
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: Okay, So Jacksonville gets the ball, they got to go

896
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: down the field. Here comes Trevor Lawrence, who's been sensational

897
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: down the stretch of the season, but in the early

898
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: and majority of his career has been inconsistent, and he

899
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: throws the pick. I think on the first play that

900
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 1: ends the season for Jacksonville. Was that pick on Lawrence

901
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: or the receiver?

902
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 3: Lawrence should not have thrown the ball because it was

903
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: well covered. But I wouldn't say the interception itself. You

904
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 3: could put all on his shoulders. I mean, it's a tipball, okay,

905
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 3: but he shouldn't have thrown it for sure.

906
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: Should have held back right.

907
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: Joining us now on the Java House Peel and poor

908
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 1: guest line Mike Chapel of CBS four and wxin Fox

909
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: fifty nine, who is the dean of covering sports for

910
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: the Colts. Chap I will begin with this and we

911
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: got a bunch to cover here. The Lawrence play though

912
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: that's on Lawrence, are on the receiver. Mike Chapel sees

913
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: it how what was tip?

914
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 8: Wasn't it?

915
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: Yes?

916
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 7: Yes, well then I have a hard time putting it

917
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 7: on the quarterback. If it's tipped.

918
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: It was tipped by the defender though, wasn't it Nataniel?

919
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: Defender one tipped the defender two picked it.

920
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I don't remember it as tight as you do.

921
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 7: I do have to say, all through that game, I

922
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 7: was waiting further to be a Jaguars moment because and

923
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 7: that's unfair to the Jaguars other day the fabulous season,

924
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 7: But I just I don't trust him. I didn't trust Lawrence.

925
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 9: Uh.

926
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 8: He probably deserved better faith than that.

927
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: Okay, Chap.

928
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: Before we get into the NFL, I wanted to give

929
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: you the opportunity for those that are going to be

930
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 1: listening at two o'clock when I have on Bill Betner

931
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: to set the stage. I know there are a lot

932
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: of people that probably would say, well, Bill Betner was

933
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: a writer. He was a columnist for the Star for years.

934
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: I obviously know of his brother David that was with

935
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: the Pacers. People know a Bill and they may say, well,

936
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: why is Querry having on the guy that's a retired

937
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: writer to talk about IU football? But it goes beyond

938
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: that because I don't know of any fan of any

939
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: team that probably has shown more loyalty and more devotion

940
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: to a program than Bill Binner has for Indiana football.

941
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: You know him as well as anybody. You've been around him,

942
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: you worked with him. Is that a fair statement?

943
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 7: Sure there are other IU fans who've lived and mostly

944
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 7: died with the football program. But what I thought was Bill,

945
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 7: And I'm sure someone can point out columns to the contrary.

946
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 7: I thought when he covered IU, he was fair and

947
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 7: not necessarily certainly went on the bandwagon. And I know

948
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 7: he and Bob Knight when we're talking programs in basketball,

949
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:55,959
Speaker 7: they had their differences. But Bill's been there and it's funny,

950
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 7: but there were times in the past, the last ten

951
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 7: to fifteen years, and what I what what always bugged

952
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 7: me about? I used that play their butts off against

953
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 7: Ohio State and get beat close or Michigan get be close.

954
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 7: Then they play some rum dum and get run out

955
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 7: of the building right, And one time I put where

956
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 7: there you go, there's IU again, And Bill would would

957
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 7: send me a text like, hey, layoff. So he was protective.

958
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 7: But that's fine, But yeah, I I I know that

959
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 7: those a lot I had no idea they were that

960
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 7: it's the biggest alumni group in the country. I had

961
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 7: no idea. Uh, and they've been losing his program ever,

962
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 7: I mean, does that? Does that tell you what they've

963
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 7: been through? So I tell you, I know it's a big,

964
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 7: a big bandwagon. But the people at the front should

965
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 7: be Bill and and people Kaylin Jackson. I mean she

966
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 7: went to IU. But but people who have who who

967
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 7: been there and endured so many bad moments. Good for them.

968
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 7: I hope Bill. I know Bill's been to these last

969
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 7: couple of games. I'm sure he's gonna be going to Miami.

970
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 7: He had a col up Reggie ands if Reggie's got

971
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 7: some room at the house. But I just think it's

972
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 7: an outstanding I hope they finish it and it'll be

973
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 7: a story for the ages, without question.

974
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: You think they will, think they will? Do you think

975
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: they'll finish it. They'll finish it.

976
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's something going on there.

977
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 7: Uh you know, now in Miami's defense, is really a

978
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 7: pass rush is the real deal. But there, you know,

979
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 7: and this boy after I said all that, well, this

980
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 7: reminds me of from Colt. From Colt's perspective, is that

981
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 7: year where they blew the doors off of who was

982
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 7: at Kansas City and Denver. Peyton had like ten touchdowns

983
00:54:53,640 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 7: and no interceptions the first two games, and then they

984
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 7: went to New England and got stuffed. That's not going

985
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 7: to happen, so I hope they finished. I think Mindoza's

986
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 7: on some kind of a special run. And they've got players.

987
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 7: The running game is good. Is not good, it's very good.

988
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 7: They got receivers, and I got to say, I didn't

989
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 7: see this defense in the first half of the season.

990
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 7: I'm seeing it now and I think it's going to

991
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 7: be a great game. I hope they won it. I

992
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 7: just think good for you.

993
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Chap, we're going to transition to NFL.

994
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: Here, let me give you the opportunity to, if you

995
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: are cool with it, to opine now. I want to

996
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: play for folks what it was that took place in

997
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: the Jaguars press conference, and you, as somebody who has

998
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: been around for a long time, I was going to

999
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: see if you and I can discuss whether or not

1000
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, because this has become a polarizing subject for fans,

1001
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: which I understand. Liam Cohen is the head coach of

1002
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. They were eliminated obviously in Jacksonville to

1003
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: the hands of the Buffalo Bills, and afterwards Lynn Jones

1004
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Free Press News For those that don't know,

1005
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: in these press conferences, athlete or coaches up at a podium.

1006
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: Usually media is then seated in seats throughout they have

1007
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: a microphone. They walk around and pass around oftentimes, and

1008
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: you then say who you are and who you're with,

1009
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: and you ask a question, and Chap I will play

1010
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: this for folks.

1011
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 2: This is what took place yesterday.

1012
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 10: Till you congratulations on your success, young man. You hold

1013
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 10: your head up, all right. You guys have had a

1014
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 10: most magnificent season. He did a great job out there today.

1015
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 10: So you just hold your head up, okay. And ladies

1016
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 10: and gentlemen, duvall you don't want all right, keep it going.

1017
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 10: We got another season, okay. Appreciate take care and much

1018
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 10: continued success to you and the entire team.

1019
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: Okay, Chap, I know that a lot of fans see

1020
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: it both ways. Some say, hey, you know what she's

1021
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 1: Maybe she's a fan, she lives in Jacksonville, whatever else,

1022
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: simply felt bad for the coach, whatever it may be.

1023
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: Others say, nice sentiment, wrong place, wrong time. Can you

1024
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: and I'm not asking you to state your opinion on it,

1025
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: but for those that are unfamiliar as someone who has

1026
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: been in the press corps for a long time with

1027
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: the NFL, is there an expectation or an unwritten rule

1028
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: when you are credentialed into the media of decorum.

1029
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 7: Yes, there needs to be. And whether it's my opinion

1030
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 7: or not, I guess I'll give him my opinion. It

1031
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 7: was inappropriate. It just time and place. Time and place.

1032
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 7: If you have that connection or feeling towards the coach,

1033
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 7: towards the team, then then you wait until he gets

1034
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 7: off the stage, you find him in the locker room,

1035
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 7: and then you do that. That's just it's inappropriate. And

1036
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 7: if that makes me the old man on the porch

1037
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 7: yelling at people on my long fine, but that's not

1038
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 7: what it is. We're there to do a job. Can

1039
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 7: you imagine if one of us on the local media

1040
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 7: had told Shane, you know, tough season boy, stick in there. No,

1041
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 7: you can't do that. It's it's time and place. And

1042
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 7: it's crazy that it's that polarizing, because well, she's she's sewing,

1043
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 7: she's showing sentiment and compassion. That's not the venue. We're

1044
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 7: there to be as objective as possible. And on the

1045
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 7: other end, you don't say, well, you guys are a

1046
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 7: bunch of hot trash today.

1047
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 8: What went on. There's ways to do things, there's places

1048
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 8: to do things.

1049
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 7: And again, maybe I'm just too old school, I don't

1050
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 7: think so. I'd like to know what the pro football

1051
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 7: writers would think about it. I would I'd like to

1052
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 7: know what, in a clear moment, what a team would

1053
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 7: say about that. It's just inappropriate. Now, maybe the team

1054
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 7: would say, it's okay because you're you're you're consoling the coach.

1055
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 11: It.

1056
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 8: I didn't.

1057
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 7: I thought it was inappropriate. I'm not gonna tear it

1058
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 7: down for it. I just thought that it showed I

1059
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 7: can't imagine. I was thinking this is terrible. I was

1060
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 7: thinking of our local media, and I can't think of

1061
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 7: one person in our media who would say that in

1062
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 7: that venue. You know, we've all, we've all said and

1063
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 7: done ask stupid questions we do because you know, because

1064
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 7: we do. But that wasn't even a question. That was Oh,

1065
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 7: by the way, coach, you know the literterc dabber, get

1066
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 7: down inappropriate that's kind of where I met with it.

1067
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 2: The chap.

1068
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: The reality is, and this is why it's a fascinating

1069
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: story to me. The reality is that we as as

1070
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: we have progressed through technology. I think that those of

1071
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: us and I have to be aware of this chap.

1072
00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying I'm not exonerating this particular situation,

1073
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: but I understand why a lot of people would have

1074
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: less issue with it because of the fact that now

1075
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: between social media and podcasts and you know, whether it

1076
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: be TikTok or influencers or whatever else, the lines of

1077
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: the journalism that for so long we're right there in

1078
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: the sand, would you agree that they have become blurred?

1079
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: And maybe that's why it's important to step up and

1080
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: say no, see, this is what we're talking about. But

1081
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: those lines have become blurred to where I think fans

1082
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: that are not those that are getting the credential don't

1083
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: see as much problem with it because there just is

1084
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: not the clear separation between media and fan base like

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Speaker 1: there once was.

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Speaker 2: Is that a fair statement?

1087
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Speaker 7: Coldspr guy who does a great job, and I think

1088
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 7: one of his biggest decisions every year is who do

1089
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 7: you credential? You know some guy that's got a podcast,

1090
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 7: some guy that you know doesn't go to games, some

1091
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 7: guy from New York or Wisconsin or somewhere that's a

1092
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 7: big Colts fan. But he posts things every day. One

1093
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 7: thing that I'm pretty sure that Conty does. I'm pretty

1094
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 7: sure he does this. But once or twice during training

1095
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 7: cancer is a day where he lets everybody in. He

1096
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 7: lets the podcasters in. Can you hear that? When that

1097
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 7: goes off laid mackerel, But he lets everybody because he

1098
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 7: knows all publicity's good publicity. But you have to have

1099
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 7: a separation of podcasters. And here we are being snooty

1100
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 7: in credential media because there is a difference and we're

1101
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 7: not I'm not a homer for the team. Sometimes I

1102
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 7: feel like I need to defend the team when somebody

1103
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 7: goes off half cocked. And I'm not pointing at you,

1104
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 7: but I just think there are time is that you

1105
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 7: need to have the objective voice to where we I

1106
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 7: don't have an agenda. Hey, now, this team is it's

1107
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 7: better when they win, because it just is. If you're

1108
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 7: the beat, Now, if you're if you're Bob Kravitz and

1109
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 7: you're a columnist, you love you love chaos because it

1110
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 7: just drives your copy. But I think the hardest Yes,

1111
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 7: there's no question that that with today's media, the lines

1112
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 7: are blurred, which I think makes it more important on

1113
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 7: who who has access And and again I'm not I'm

1114
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 7: trying to be inclusive to a point. To a point,

1115
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 7: you have to have a valid forum. You can't be

1116
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 7: just a fan who who has a falling of four

1117
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 7: hundred people online.

1118
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 8: You can't do that.

1119
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 7: So that's the hardest part. But there, but there needs

1120
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 7: to be aligned there. There's you know they well there's

1121
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 7: no cheering in the press box. Well that's for a reason. Uh,

1122
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 7: you know, that's for a reason. So I hope that

1123
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 7: we can still have that line that that certainly is blurred,

1124
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 7: but there's boy, there's got to be a line or

1125
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 7: what are we doing? So you know, one of these

1126
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 7: days I'll no longer do this and then I won't care.

1127
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 7: But as long as I'm doing it, dog gone out.

1128
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 7: There needs to be some some some for for them

1129
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 7: to where there. Yes, there is a line. And you know,

1130
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 7: like I say, Matt County will give you two days

1131
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 7: up at Westfield to come out there and get all

1132
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 7: your interviews guys will come up there and and they've

1133
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 7: got they've got Jonathan Taylor, Jersey's on, you know, and

1134
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 7: come on, you know so so I just wish it

1135
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 7: wasn't that way. It is, and I think the Colts

1136
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 7: do a very good job, but those guys. But but

1137
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 7: CONTI does have a line that normally is not crossed

1138
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 7: on game day press box and every day at the

1139
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 7: Cults Complex. It's it's a thinner crowd. It's a crowd

1140
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 7: that has edited people. I don't know any other way

1141
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 7: to put it. So there's got to be a line,

1142
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 7: and I hope that line doesn't get too blurry.

1143
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: Mike Chappel's my guest, Java House Peel and poor guest

1144
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: line of course. Chap with CBS four and w x

1145
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: A and Fox fifty nine. Let's get to the NFL playoffs, Chap,

1146
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: most impressive performance from a team standpoint of the weekend,

1147
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: and your opinion was who?

1148
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 7: Well, I like the Rams, I just I like the

1149
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 7: ramsh But those were Greg the Bears. You cannot you

1150
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 7: that's great. Theater is that like seven games they've won

1151
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:34,919
Speaker 7: in the last two minutes.

1152
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 2: It's unreal.

1153
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 8: That's great. That's not sustainable. It's not U. I still

1154
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 8: like the Rams. I'm not sold on New England. I'm not.

1155
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 7: I think he's going to blow the doors off of

1156
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 7: Aaron Rogers tonight. I like the Rams what I've seen,

1157
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 7: and and and then individually, Josh Allen is like a cockroach.

1158
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 7: You can't kill him, you can't. I think it's great

1159
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 7: stuff so far, and going forward it's just gonna.

1160
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 2: Be a great theater.

1161
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 7: And then, oh, by the way, you've got Philadelphia, what

1162
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 7: the hell they're gonna do? So it's really interesting stuff.

1163
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 7: But I really am impressed by the Rams and the

1164
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 7: way they came back.

1165
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 2: I think San Francisco's impressive.

1166
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: And if I'm Seattle, I would be very worried about,

1167
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, the way that those two just played each other.

1168
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: Obviously in San Francisco, I know Kittle went down, I

1169
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: know that they have been decimated by injury, but they

1170
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: just keep fighting away. Is San Francisco kind of lurking

1171
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: in the weeds.

1172
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, And that's another one where I'm sort of I'm

1173
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 7: late to be on a Josh pretty fan. I just

1174
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 7: there's always something I think is missing, and then and

1175
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 7: then he makes these plays and you know, their running

1176
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 7: game is not very good. McCaffrey's averaging like three point

1177
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 7: nine a carry, yet he makes plays in the past game.

1178
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 7: They find ways At some points the injurger are gonna matter.

1179
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 7: Losing Kittle is a big deal.

1180
01:05:58,640 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 8: It really is.

1181
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 7: But I'll tell you when you get teams at find ways.

1182
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,959
Speaker 7: You know, we talked the last week or two about

1183
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 7: the Colts found ways to lose. Now you're seeing that,

1184
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 7: how it is went team's find way to win, and well,

1185
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 7: that's what Frisco does. It's like the Bears. I'm not

1186
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 7: sure how it's sustainable when you keep losing. They're not

1187
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 7: losing their backup tackle, they're losing George Kittle. So but yeah, great,

1188
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 7: it was a great weekend. I have a low bar

1189
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 7: for tonight because I I don't like Pittsburgh. I think

1190
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 7: they've defined mediocrity. So but so far, so good.

1191
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 2: Chap.

1192
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: A lot of times I'll watch, whether it be the

1193
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: college playoffs, the you know, the Final Four, whatever it

1194
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: may be. There are a lot of times where I

1195
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: watch in the playoffs or in the postseason, and if

1196
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: the team that I pull for or watch regularly is

1197
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: not involved, then it will suddenly That's where I will

1198
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: really see the gap between you know, say the Colts

1199
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: and the team that are in the postseason.

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01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 2: Is there a gap?

1201
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there's a gap because the Colts, we

1202
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: know what happened at the end of the year. But

1203
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was so, you know, we talked about all that.

1204
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: But when you look at it, does it remind you

1205
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: that they are simply health away from being competitive or

1206
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: did the postseason to you show a gap that reminds

1207
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: you how far aware they are?

1208
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 8: Well how far is a relative term, but they're not there.

1209
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 7: I looked last night, you know, with the Niners make

1210
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 7: that the last stop and they win the game, and

1211
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 7: I'm thinking, where was that for the Colts? You know,

1212
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 7: where was that one stop in Seattle? That one stop

1213
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 7: in Kansas City and even Jacksonville? Where was that one stop?

1214
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 7: And you know, the injury thing, everybody has it. But

1215
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 7: the one thing I do push back on is losing

1216
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 7: dandel Jones was not to say, did we.

1217
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 2: Lose Chap Nathaniel, Yeah, it looks like a Chap All right, Hello.

1218
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: We lost Mike Chap, but we'll try to reconnect with Chap.

1219
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 1: But yes, I think that when you look at and

1220
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: that's to me. You know, admittedly, I mean speaking of Indiana.

1221
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: You know, for for years when I would go down

1222
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: to like Clemson games, and I would say, there's just

1223
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: such a gap between the speed and the level of

1224
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: play between an Indiana and then say a Clemsoner in

1225
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: Alabama going back, you know, five six years ago, and

1226
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, for Purdue that the same and I did

1227
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,799
Speaker 1: see Purdue. I was looking last night at some recruiting

1228
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: aspects for Purdue. You know, I think that there's they

1229
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: may be somewhat like headed towards the right direction in

1230
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 1: trying to build a foundation, but speed in general at

1231
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: the college level. I would look at between saying those

1232
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, the Big ten schools and then those others,

1233
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: and it is very bizarre to think that Indiana is

1234
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: now the one that is setting that pay. But from

1235
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: the NFL standpoint, chap As you were saying, you know Jones,

1236
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: I again, I guess we go back to that. Just

1237
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: so much of it depends, does it not, on whether

1238
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: or not Daniel Jones is healthy and when they will

1239
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: be able to assess whether or not he's healthy for

1240
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: next year?

1241
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 7: You know week one, right, everything does everything, Everything that's

1242
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 7: going to happen next year is dependent on Daniel Jones.

1243
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 8: It just is uh.

1244
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 7: They're there. They are as convinced as they can be

1245
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 7: in January that he's gonna be ready in junior July

1246
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 7: for the start of training camp. At what level we'll see.

1247
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 7: But if not Daniel Jones, who you know the other

1248
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 7: writers Learny come in and played pretty well. But but

1249
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 7: I don't think they believe he's ready to play a month.

1250
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 7: So everything's on his health and and and there's a

1251
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 7: lot of reasons to say, oh boy, you know you're

1252
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 7: you're putting all your eggs in that basket and Achilles

1253
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 7: for from a guy who's who's I think he's finding

1254
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 7: three of his whatever it is seven years on ir

1255
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 7: with injuries, so it's all on him. I don't whatever

1256
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 7: else they do in the offseason, you know they're gonna

1257
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,719
Speaker 7: resign Johns. They are. It just depends on the money.

1258
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 7: And I am as convinced as I can be they're

1259
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 7: gonna resign Alec Pearce, although by Josh Allen has to say,

1260
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 7: you know, I wouldn't mind having Alec Pearce in Buffalo

1261
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 7: right now. I don't see any way this team allows

1262
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 7: Alec Pearce to sniff the open market. I just don't

1263
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 7: see it. But it all depends on the quarterback. And

1264
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 7: if he comes back and plays like he did the

1265
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 7: first ten games, then they're in good check because they're

1266
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 7: gonna they're gonna, I won't say, blow up the defense,

1267
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 7: but we may not recognize the front seven next year

1268
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 7: because they're gonna make changes, which they need to so,

1269
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 7: but it's all in the quarterback. And I understand everyone's

1270
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 7: angst over that because he's got an achilles, and we've

1271
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 7: seen guys not be the same, certainly initially after an achilles.

1272
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: Mike Chapel is my guest Java House Peel and poor

1273
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 1: guest Line chap One other thing I wanted to touch

1274
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 1: on before we let you go here and appreciate the

1275
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: time you talked about Josh Allen and Buffalo that play

1276
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: and it was impressive. They had a fourth and one

1277
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 1: and and I can't remember if they scored a touchdown

1278
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: or down at like the half yard line, but basically

1279
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, who is a you know, super strong between

1280
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: the tackle, I get it, but his line basically picked

1281
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: him up and carried him for like seven yard.

1282
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 8: Good.

1283
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? Can that? Are they going to have to revisit that.

1284
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's you know, the version of the touch portion,

1285
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 7: but that that's you can't pick a guy. You're not

1286
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 7: supposed to pick a guy up and carry him for

1287
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 7: crying out loud, And that's something I would hope. Is

1288
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 7: that a football play?

1289
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 8: I don't know. I don't think so.

1290
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 7: I don't like it, but you know, there there's been

1291
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 7: two or three years that they've sort of fought back

1292
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 7: and they've not gotten enough indoor horse to ban that play.

1293
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 7: But that's not a good play. I mean, it just isn't.

1294
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 7: And then there's been there's been a player too, I

1295
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 7: think it was with the Eagles several weeks ago, whether

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Speaker 7: they ran that and then I think, uh Jalen Hurst

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Speaker 7: fumbled the ball and did it did it happen for

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01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,560
Speaker 7: momentum stopped or whatever. So it's just it's just not

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Speaker 7: a clean play, and I hope they do something to

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01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 7: adjust teams running that kind of a play.

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Speaker 1: Mike Chapel, we will continue to monitor what happens here

1302
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: in terms of any storylines with the Colts. Probably talk

1303
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 1: to you again throughout the course of the playoffs, and

1304
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: we will hold you to tonight's prediction that Houston.

1305
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 2: Will take care of business against Pittsburgh big time, big time.

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Speaker 1: He says, all right, appreciated chap Later, all right, Mike

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Speaker 1: Chapel joining us on the Java House Peeled and poor

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Speaker 1: guest line. You saw the play, Nathaniel, right, I mean

1309
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: it literally Allen goes for a sneak and it was

1310
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: an unbelievable play till you watch the replay and you're

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01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: like a lineman basically picked them up and they're just

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01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: they were like.

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01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: Carrying him.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how else to describe it, right, I mean,

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01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: it looked like some sort of a fireman drill. Impressive, impressive,

1316
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 1: but at the same time, you're like, I don't know,

1317
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: like because that was you know, at one time I

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Speaker 1: think outlawed and then brought back from the college to

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Speaker 1: outlaw is the wrong word illegal, and then brought back

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Speaker 1: from a college standpoint, et cetera. But that was a

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01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: great Listen. Buffalo to me is fascinating because I seemingly

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01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: each time that I have watched Buffalo this year, they've lost.

1323
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: Like it feels almost like there was all this hope

1324
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 1: and expectation around Buffalo going into the season and then

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01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: maybe it's because I categorized them in my mind like

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01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: I do the Detroit Lions, and because Detroit's season went south,

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01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 1: I just assumed that Buffalo's kind of had as well,

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01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: and they because the Bills were not a dominant team

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01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: within their division or conference. But I think most people

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01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: would still tell you that they anticipate Buffalo as the

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01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: AFC round. I think they're the favorite in the AFC

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01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 1: for most people. I think most people would say if

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Speaker 1: you took a survey that Buffalo is the team that

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01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 1: would be the most common answer of one that people

1335
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: assume is going to get into the super Bowl when

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Speaker 1: we return. He is the national sportscaster of the Year.

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01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: He was on the microphone for Indiana's win over Oregon,

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Speaker 1: and Sean McDonagh joined us.

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Speaker 4: Next you're listening to Query and Company on ninety three

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Speaker 4: to five and one oh seven to five The Fan.

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01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: There were several things that perhaps surprise folks about the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Oregon game on Friday evening, notably the way in

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01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: which that game went from the score standpoint, let's be real. Secondly,

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01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 1: obviously just the incredulous nature of having Indiana playing for

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01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 1: a national championship, and third perhaps the quick pounce that

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Speaker 1: Indiana had on Oregon, much to the delight of the

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Speaker 1: ninety percent of the fans of Mercedes Benz Stadium.

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Speaker 2: But one of the more fun curveballs that took place.

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Speaker 1: In the game is when they went to the booth

1350
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: and Sean McDonough was under the assumption that he was

1351
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: getting ready to talk about the Oregon Ducks, and at

1352
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: that point it was his colleague Greg McElroy who took

1353
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: the opportunity to congratulate him on being named the National

1354
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: Sports Media National Sportscaster of the Year. And when you

1355
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: are a sportscaster, it is your job to always know

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01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: what to say. And I thought it was a poignant

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01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: moment that Sean McDonough in that second kind of clearly

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Speaker 1: did not. But it is a well earned honor. He

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01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: joins us now in the Java House, Peel and poor

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Speaker 1: guest line after the call in that game, Sean, that

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01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: caught you off guard a little bit, did it not?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 6: It did, Thank you, Jake, it did.

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Speaker 12: I wasn't expecting it. It was very nice of Greg

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01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 12: and our crew to want to mention it. It was

1366
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,560
Speaker 12: a little uncomfortable for me because I've always said you know,

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01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 12: people don't tune in.

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01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 8: About us.

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Speaker 12: They don't tune into wat us the announcers. They tuned

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01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 12: in to watch the game. So I've always tried never

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01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 12: to make it about myself, but in that instance, I

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01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 12: guess I could allow it because you know, it wasn't

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01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 12: my choice, but I appreciate it. You know, it was

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01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 12: very heart fell from Greg. He and I have become

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01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 12: really close friends, and I think he was happier for

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01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,640
Speaker 12: me about the whole thing than I was, So it

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01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 12: was a nice moment. I did try to kind of

1378
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 12: steer it quickly back to the game, but it was

1379
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Speaker 12: nice to them, and I appreciate you bringing it up

1380
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 12: too well.

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Speaker 2: It was a well earned hotter, no question about that.

1382
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: I want to get to the matchup here, and before

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Speaker 1: we go back to kind of revisit the Oregon game.

1384
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,839
Speaker 1: For Indiana fans that might be unfamiliar. You know, Miami

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01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: is obviously an illustrious program, but coming out of the ACC,

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01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, not as much discussion about them after the

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01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 1: Notre Dame game at the beginning of the year from

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Speaker 1: a local standpoint, I simply mean, but you saw them

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01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: against Texas A and m can you kind of preview

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Speaker 1: for folks or let Indiana fans know the strength of

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Speaker 1: what they're going up against with the Hurricanes.

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Speaker 12: Well, I think the number one strength is their play

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01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 12: along both lines of scrimmage. You matter of fact, when

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01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 12: we did that season opener in Miami against Notre Dame,

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01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 12: the Notre Dame was considered to have one of the

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Speaker 12: best offensive lines in the country coming in to the season,

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Speaker 12: and you know that night, they really got out played

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01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 12: by the defensive line. Now you can understand why when

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Speaker 12: you've watched Miami play since, particularly in this playoff. I mean,

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01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 12: they have two defensive ends in Baine and Mesidor who

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01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 12: are going to be first round picks and are probably

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01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 12: moving up on draft boards with the way they've played.

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01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 12: So yeah, I think that's the biggest strength of Miami.

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01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 12: They have a bunch of other strengths too. I think

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01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 12: they're very well coached. Obviously, they have a veteran quarterback

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01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 12: who I think is also a nice comeback story in

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01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 12: Carson Beck and what he's accomplished this year.

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Speaker 2: You know they're capable of winning.

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Speaker 13: It's just hard. You know what.

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Speaker 12: You watch the surgical precision with which Indiana is annihilating

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Speaker 12: good teams like Alabama and Oregon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think I said at one point during the

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Speaker 12: game Friday night, you wonder if we were going to

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Speaker 12: the half. You wonder what the Miami Hurricanes they're thinking

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Speaker 12: watching this right now.

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Speaker 6: But they're a good team.

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01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 12: You know, it's just hard because Indiana, as we talked

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01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 12: about a lot the other night, doesn't beat itself.

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01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 2: So you know you have to play.

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01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 12: You know, you'd have to play your best anyway to

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01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 12: beat a team like Indiana, but you ratter do it

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01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 12: because they're not going to hand you the game, that's

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Speaker 12: for sure.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the things about Indiana to your point, Sean,

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01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: and you are correct. I have said, it's almost like

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Speaker 1: the blueprint for Indiana is, look, we're just going to

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Speaker 1: go out and not make mistakes, and then that way,

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Speaker 1: if you make a mistake, then we win because you

1431
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 1: made a mistake and we didn't. I mean, it seems

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Speaker 1: like that's their mantra going in, right. Is Miami a

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01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:48,440
Speaker 1: team that is susceptible to lapses or turnovers?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, but I don't think alarmingly. So you know, I

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01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 12: think if you are, you don't get to this point.

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Speaker 12: Matter of fact, I was kind of surprised Texas A

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01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 12: and m I believe they were some like minus state

1439
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 12: or minus nine when we had them, which would be

1440
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 12: unusual for a playoff team in terms of the turnover march,

1441
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 12: and so you know they have had You know, Malachi

1442
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 12: Tony is their terrific freshman wide receiver.

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01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 2: He's put the.

1444
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Speaker 12: Ball on the ground a couple of times in this playoff,

1445
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 12: notably the other night in their win against All minutes

1446
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 12: that bounce back to them. But you know, I don't

1447
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 12: think they're they're gonna be a big turnover team. They

1448
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 12: did manage to win the game in the semi finals

1449
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 12: despite committing ten penalties, which really helped keep Ale missing

1450
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 12: it because I thought I think most people thought Miami

1451
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 12: really controlled the place through mostly I believe the time

1452
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 12: of possession was something like forty two minutes.

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Speaker 6: So they're a very good team.

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01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 12: But if you're waiting for Indiana to help you by

1455
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 12: turning the ball over getting a lot of penalties, they're

1456
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 12: just not going.

1457
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 11: To do it.

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01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 2: Sean McDonough is my guest Java House Peel and poor

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01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 2: guest line. Of course.

1460
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Speaker 1: He is the National Sports Broadcaster of the Year and

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Speaker 1: Sportscaster of the Year on ESPN. He was on the

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Speaker 1: call for Indiana and Oregon Sean. The front foard defensively

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01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: of Miami. From when I have seen them, and I've

1464
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: watched them, you know after on throughout the course of

1465
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: the year, that front foward defensively from Miami looks pretty

1466
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: nasty from what I can tell. Who has the better

1467
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: defensive line, Indiana or Miami.

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Speaker 12: Well, I would I would say if there's one place

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01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 12: where Miami who would have the edge, it's probably there

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Speaker 12: to diminish the quality of the Indiana defensive line. I

1471
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 12: think we saw how disruptive they could be the other night,

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Speaker 12: you know, collectively, not just the defensive line for Indiana,

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01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 12: but with how well coached they are and with the

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01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 12: pressures they bring from time to time. You know, they

1475
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 12: lose Steven daily and then in Duke Wake jumps in.

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01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 12: I think he had had eight or nine tackles the

1477
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:45,759
Speaker 12: whole year. He wound up being one of the stars

1478
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 12: of the game, had a couple of sacks block them front.

1479
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 12: So you know, there's strengthened numbers in that Indiana defensive line.

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01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 12: But I don't think anybody in the country has as

1481
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 12: good an offensive defensive line as Miami. As we said,

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01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 12: Reuben Bain and Mesador are going to be, you know,

1483
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 12: two first round picks. And you know they're dangerous too

1484
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 12: because they're not just end. Sometimes they'll move them inside,

1485
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 12: sometimes they line up next to each other. Cory, who's

1486
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 12: the defensive coordinator from Miami, has done a great job.

1487
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 12: He's in his first year there. He basically cut the

1488
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 12: points per game in half. I mean, last year they

1489
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 12: had the number one offense in the country. They had

1490
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 12: cam Ward a quarterback, you wound up being the first

1491
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 12: pick in the NFL draft, but the defense wasn't strong

1492
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 12: enough to get them into the playoffs. You know, this

1493
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 12: year they're much better defensively, but yeah, i'd give the

1494
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 12: edge there. Now. You know, Indiana has a terrific offensive line,

1495
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 12: so it'll be a great test. There are Joe Moore

1496
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 12: Award finalists, as you know, Jake, and then the other

1497
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 12: part of it is is, you know they just do

1498
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 12: so great a job Indiana getting the ball out quickly.

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01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 12: You know Mendoza doesn't hold on to the ball.

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01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 2: You know, he throws it quickly and if you.

1502
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 12: Can't find somebody tries to pull it down and run,

1503
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 12: and I think that's a part of his game that's

1504
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 12: now finally starting to get enough attention. His ability to

1505
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 12: hurt you when he pulls it down and runs are

1506
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 12: on the very occasional design run.

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Speaker 1: I understand, Sean. You know, the five star high school

1508
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 1: players that are elite level talents. You know you're always

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01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 1: going to want those players. That's never going to go away.

1510
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 1: But when you look at Indiana and the number of transfers,

1511
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 1: the number of fifth and sixt year players that are there,

1512
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: and Kurt Signetti going with, you know, production over potential,

1513
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: and then you look at Miami for that matter, with

1514
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: a guy that's in what his sixth season, you know,

1515
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: and back at the quarterback position as well. Is this

1516
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 1: kind of a boulder in the stream, maybe temporarily, but

1517
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: in terms of blueprint of building a program, the way

1518
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 1: that the transfer portal has taken place for Indiana, Yeah.

1519
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 12: I think it is a blueprint. A blueprint's part of

1520
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 12: me and I think it got accelerated obviously by the

1521
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 12: fact that he was able to bring her team terrific

1522
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 12: football players with him. From James Madison, mat I think

1523
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 12: it's probably been undertold what a great job Bob Chesney

1524
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 12: did the last two years at James Madison, given that,

1525
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 12: you know, he took over what's been a really strong program.

1526
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 12: It was under Signetti and it was before Kirk got

1527
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,560
Speaker 12: the JMU was actually probably the only place of the

1528
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 12: four that Kirk coach has been the head coach where

1529
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 12: they were actually in good shape before we got there,

1530
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 12: and the pass the job. Obviously JMU was in the

1531
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 12: playoffs this year. But yeah, I think the transfer portal

1532
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 12: it has to be a blend.

1533
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 11: Right.

1534
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 12: You have to recruit high school players and do well

1535
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 12: with that, but I think you need to identify the

1536
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 12: right people in the portal, and you need to have

1537
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 12: the money to go out and get them, because that's

1538
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 12: really the deciding thing. You know, most of these guys

1539
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 12: now are just transferring to wherever they're gonna get the

1540
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,560
Speaker 12: most money, or coming out of high school at a

1541
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 12: place where they think they can get the most money.

1542
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,639
Speaker 12: So you have to have donors so willing to give

1543
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:48,560
Speaker 12: you the money, and then you need to spend it

1544
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 12: on the right people. And Indiana has.

1545
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 7: All of that.

1546
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: Lastly, Sean and I appreciate the time from a national perspective,

1547
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, we in Indiana. I went to Indi you know,

1548
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 1: I was a student there back in the days of

1549
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, going to the pull on weed Eed or

1550
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 1: Independence Ball was worthy of buying a T shirt about it, right.

1551
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: So you know this, as Don Fisher said, turnarounds almost

1552
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 1: not even a big enough word, but this storyline in

1553
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: Indiana we are completely caught up in, like just the

1554
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: unbelievable nature of it from a national standpoint, From a

1555
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 1: national perspective, what is the overall I guess, just absorption

1556
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 1: of this Indiana tale And is there anything by which

1557
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 1: you can compare?

1558
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 12: Uh No to answer the last part of that first.

1559
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 12: And you know, we talked in our production meeting about that.

1560
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 12: I talked to our researchers. I asked the terrific Indiana

1561
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 12: sports information people in our meetings with them, because I'm

1562
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 12: sure you know, they've been asked for comparisons or they've

1563
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 12: done research into it, you know. And they pointed that

1564
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 12: what Bill Snyder did at Kansas State, you know, they

1565
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 12: were a worse football program in college football. He made

1566
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 12: them a consistent winner, but it wasn't overnight, you know.

1567
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 12: And Wisconsin, they pointed out, before Barry Albarez got there,

1568
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 12: it was down, but it still isn't like this, and

1569
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 12: you know, I think America is captivated by it. And

1570
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 12: you know it's ordinarily when you have a blowout, you know,

1571
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 12: we don't enjoy that in TV. It's you know, you

1572
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 12: like a competitive game. Everybody does and makes our job

1573
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 12: a little easier. But it didn't really bother me the

1574
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 12: other night because I just think it became an appreciation

1575
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 12: of the excellence of the Indiana football program. And you know,

1576
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 12: and we tried to chronicle all the facets of that,

1577
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 12: not just Signetti, but you know, he has a terrific staff.

1578
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 12: Those coordinators with him at every stop. They're a huge

1579
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 12: part of it, as are the other assistant coaches, you

1580
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 12: all the support people, the support to the administration. I mean,

1581
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 12: that's one of the reasons Seg went there is he

1582
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 12: did believe that they would be committed to trying to

1583
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 12: have an outstanding football program and not just be a

1584
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 12: bast ball school. And obviously the fans are a.

1585
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 8: Big part of it.

1586
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,560
Speaker 12: The way they took over the other night. Tornando Mendoza,

1587
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 12: I don't think America can get enough of him and

1588
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 12: his story and how gracious to see you know, he

1589
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 12: is living in the magnitude of his celebrity right now

1590
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 12: and obviously raised right by wonderful parents. You know, it's

1591
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 12: such a heartfelt story when you know, we kept having

1592
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 12: shots from the commercials of the dad helping his mom

1593
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 12: missus Mendoza put her sweater on or take it back off,

1594
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 12: and you know, it's just the whole thing's it's a

1595
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 12: wonderful story. And we'll see if they can write the

1596
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 12: final chapter by having the undefeated season in Mendoza's home town.

1597
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: Just remember, Sean, if Indiana goes sixteen and oh, the

1598
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,560
Speaker 1: first team to win sixteen games in the season in

1599
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: college football. If they go sixteen and oh, all they

1600
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 1: have to do, Sean, all Indiana has to do is

1601
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:57,600
Speaker 1: go sixteen and oh for another eleven consecutive seasons, and

1602
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: then in year twelve start seven to zh and they'll

1603
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 1: be back to a game over five hundred as a program.

1604
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 12: Wasn't that something? I mean, you know, I think we

1605
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 12: said the thing the other night. They're three and zero

1606
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 12: against top five teams and before this year one in

1607
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,639
Speaker 12: seventy two, so I mean it's done.

1608
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 2: They're so mammy.

1609
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 12: You can spend all day going through notes and stuff

1610
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 12: like that if somebody sent me a meme and you

1611
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 12: might have seen it was talking to Tom Osborne and saying, hey,

1612
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 12: you know you're not going to believe this right now,

1613
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 12: Indiana is a football school and Nebraska has become a

1614
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,560
Speaker 12: basketball all of a sudden. I know that's crazy, you

1615
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 12: never but it's a great story, and I'm happy for

1616
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 12: all the people involved. A lot of hard work's gone

1617
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 12: into it, a lot of really nice people. They're really

1618
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 12: a pleasure to talk to their coaching staff and players

1619
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 12: the other day when we were in Atlanta, and I'm

1620
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 12: happy for all their success.

1621
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: Well, Sean, we certainly appreciate you making time for us

1622
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 1: today and again, congratulations on understandably and rightly being named

1623
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: the Natational sportscaster of the Year. Great call for Indiana

1624
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 1: fans in that game against Oregon. We certainly appreciate it.

1625
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 6: Thank you, Jake, my pleasure.

1626
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

1627
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: Sean McDonald joining us on the Java House Peel and

1628
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 1: Poor guest line again. Java house dot com is the website,

1629
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:17,839
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1630
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:22,280
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1631
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 2: Peel and Poor put it right there in.

1632
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,679
Speaker 1: Eight ounces of water and root beverage that includes teas

1633
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 1: by the way, Black Tea, peacht the rest. But simply

1634
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 1: go to Java house dot com used to code Jake

1635
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 1: twenty five and you get twenty five percent off all

1636
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 1: right back on it. From a basketball standpoint, lit a

1637
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 1: roundball to talk about. We'll do it on the other

1638
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 1: side here Querying Company on the fan.

1639
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 4: You're listening to Query and Company on ninety three five

1640
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 4: and one oh seven five the Fan.

1641
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 1: Pacers and Action tonight taking on the Boston Celtics. Jalen Brown,

1642
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: by the way, questionable. It's got lower backspasms. You know,

1643
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 1: if that's the case, I've been questionable since like two

1644
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 1: thousand and nine. Being six' four has its. DISADVANTAGES i

1645
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 1: can only imagine being six' nine. Or Whatever jalen brown

1646
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 1: IS who i think is a, phenomenal player by, the

1647
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 1: way huge Fan Of jalen Brown And jalen brown also like, genius,

1648
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 1: level right Isn't he he's considered LIKE you iq of

1649
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty five and invent's stuff in the

1650
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:31,719
Speaker 1: off season and, YOU know SpaceX. Level Brainiac. Jalen brown

1651
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 1: wonderful player though we'll see if he. Plays tonight But

1652
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 1: the pacers coming off a huge Win against Miami On

1653
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 1: saturday saturday, night ACTUALLY so i didn't see. THE game

1654
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 1: i wasn't at the game, going tonight but not that,

1655
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 1: anybody Cares but i'll just. Simply Mistion, so shannon, you

1656
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 1: know has and is fortunate enough to get, season tickets

1657
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 1: but her brother and nephew and, nephew's girlfriend they were

1658
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 1: all in town from day so they went to. The

1659
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 1: game so we actually went Down to bottleworks to the

1660
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 1: garage AND which i have done before and was There

1661
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 1: at Axles With mick ultra as part Of Our mini

1662
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 1: hoops challenge last week and had so much FUN that,

1663
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 1: i said you, know what let's go back and just

1664
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 1: eat there and get a beer and. Walk around so

1665
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:25,560
Speaker 1: we did that and then walk down mass Av To

1666
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 1: chatham tap.

1667
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 2: And the game. WAS on i, also saw, you Know

1668
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 2: The rams panthers game was winding up. As well they

1669
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:39,680
Speaker 2: had both. TVs going my point simply, here, BEING yeah I.

1670
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:40,560
Speaker 2: LOVE indy.

1671
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 1: I love Everything, about INDIANAPOLIS and i love going out

1672
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 1: to the different Areas. Of INDIANAPOLIS when i Lived To New,

1673
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 1: york city one of the great Things About New york

1674
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 1: city was you could go to any Area Of New

1675
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 1: york city and find a new a, new bar a, new,

1676
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 1: bar barbershop a new, you know, shoe cobbler. Whatever like

1677
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:08,640
Speaker 1: there are one hundred and fifty thousand different little Neighborhoods

1678
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 1: In New, York city and each time you discover a

1679
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 1: new neighborhood and get into the mode of, that neighborhood

1680
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 1: it's like you'd forgotten about the neighborhood you were in

1681
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 1: before the one you're going to be in next to.

1682
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 2: Whatever else they all are each their own.

1683
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: Little thing and LAST night i was looking Through The

1684
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: indianapolis star had a photo Archive of indianapolis over, the

1685
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 1: DECADES and i was looking at the one from, the

1686
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 1: eighties and there was a picture Of mass ab from nineteen.

1687
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:34,639
Speaker 2: Eighty two he could See old, point there but it's where.

1688
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 1: The dancing woman would now be Where bru burger's right

1689
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: there on, the left and it's unrecognizable compared.

1690
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 2: To today and just.

1691
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 1: Walking from the garage and then walking around past the

1692
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: hotel and then back Down Towards, chatham tap that whole

1693
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: little area right there.

1694
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 2: Is just another one.

1695
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: Of Those and i've BEEN there, i mean it's not

1696
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 1: like it was new, to me but it just reminded

1697
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 1: me of some of, the different very cool things that

1698
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 1: we have Here. In indy And as i've, always SAID

1699
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 1: and I know i'm Biased because i'm, from here but,

1700
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 1: considering that we are a city that was created because

1701
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 1: it was a crossroad between the stockyards Of the west

1702
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:16,640
Speaker 1: and the Industry, of chicago and it was strictly a

1703
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 1: stopover to hang. A left and we have, no ocean

1704
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 1: we have, no mountains and for the, most part we

1705
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 1: have no natural. Lakes around we've done a pretty, good

1706
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 1: job done a pretty good job building a pretty. Cool

1707
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 1: area but it was very cool walking, around THERE and i, just,

1708
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: thought man it'd be so fun to just stay the

1709
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 1: night some night in the hotel right there and just

1710
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 1: do a pub.

1711
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:40,639
Speaker 2: Crawl whatever it be a lot. Of fun but in watching,

1712
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 2: the game.

1713
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 1: That was the first time this year that seemingly we

1714
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 1: have seen a glimpse Of the pacers of a, year

1715
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 1: Ago and nemhard is a big part.

1716
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 11: Of that.

1717
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 2: But they're starting to get play from.

1718
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 1: OTHER players i Think having nie me back is big,

1719
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 1: as well because he just brings a stability, to them

1720
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 1: And the pacers absolutely need to GET and i don't

1721
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: know at this point that, you know maybe at this

1722
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 1: point they are what. They Are But, jeris walker, you

1723
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 1: know he was good in, that, game right. Good jarifs

1724
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 1: but they just and maybe we need to now accept

1725
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:25,719
Speaker 1: the Fact That jeris walker is a PERFECTLY fine nba

1726
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 1: player if you don't consider what it was you were

1727
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:30,799
Speaker 1: hoping he was going to be when he was drafted

1728
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 1: within the, top ten and if you look at it and,

1729
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:36,680
Speaker 1: simply say you, know what if he's going to be

1730
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 1: a ten to fifteen point four to, six, rebound solid

1731
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 1: eighteen minutes off the bench kind, of guy they could,

1732
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 1: use that and you just burn the, Fact, that okay

1733
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 1: but we'll forget about the fact that when he was

1734
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 1: taken six or eight or whatever it was that he,

1735
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 1: was taken you wanted more at.

1736
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 2: That time.

1737
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 1: Another Guy that i'm curious Of Is micah potter because

1738
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 1: he plays well for them and he can hit shots.

1739
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 1: For them BUT where i have been victim in the

1740
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 1: past AND where i at times am NAIVE is i

1741
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 1: oftentimes look at production from guys and think that that

1742
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 1: means that, they are, you know long term run with,

1743
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 1: them guys and then you have to look at it, and,

1744
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 1: say no they're getting those minutes and they're getting those

1745
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 1: points because they are in a system right now where

1746
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 1: someone needs to get those minutes, in points but, in,

1747
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 1: meaningful impactful Late playoff game six Of The Eastern conference.

1748
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: Finals moments are they then guys you? Run with or

1749
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 1: is that a whole? Different ANIMAL and i. DON'T know

1750
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 1: i do Feel Like jay huff with his ability and

1751
01:34:56,920 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 1: he continues to almost toy with me because he always

1752
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 1: hits the first. Two games like if you go to a,

1753
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 1: pacer game this didn't Happen, on saturday but if you

1754
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,719
Speaker 1: go to a game and you're wagering with your buddies

1755
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 1: there Wager That jay huff hits his first two threes

1756
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be within the first eight minutes of,

1757
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 1: the game and then after that the three kind of

1758
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 1: goes away.

1759
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:22,640
Speaker 2: From him, but.

1760
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 1: When and i'll, say when not if when they Get

1761
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 1: Their miles, turner REPLACEMENT and i think that comes.

1762
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 2: Via trade when they get.

1763
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 1: Whether, it's zubac Whether It's, mark williams whoever it. Might

1764
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 1: be when they get, that PLAYER then I Think jay

1765
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 1: huff becomes a really nice rotational fifteen to eighteen, minute guy.

1766
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:47,600
Speaker 2: And he has Shown That.

1767
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:51,680
Speaker 1: ISAIAH jackson I Love, isaiah jackson but the health has

1768
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 1: just really held him back a little bit from really

1769
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 1: getting a full understanding.

1770
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 2: Of who and what he. Can be and then You

1771
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 2: Know ethan tom and is he just a guy that's

1772
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 2: that's long in minutes because somebody has to.

1773
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 1: That's possible but tonight Against, the celtics we'll See if

1774
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 1: indiana can get their. Third straight don't screw it, Up

1775
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 1: though they've still got a really good chance at a

1776
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 1: top three player that could be a huge difference and

1777
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 1: allow them To. Trade bathern i'll simply Say That, bill

1778
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 1: benner Long time indiana, football fan basking in the glory

1779
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 1: of back to back road Trips for bill and, his

1780
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 1: family and we'll talk to him about what all of.

1781
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:26,600
Speaker 2: This.

1782
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 4: Means next This is Querry in company on ninety three

1783
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 4: five and one oh seven five The.

1784
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 2: Fan indiana on their Way.

1785
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 1: To miami and when you think about making, the pilgrimage

1786
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 1: paying the, ticket prices sitting in the Sun in, miami

1787
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 1: gardens maybe it'll be in. The rain but you, know

1788
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 1: What the colts Won A super bowl in the Rain, In.

1789
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: Miami indiana it was Raining in atlanta before They. Played

1790
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 1: oregon it was raining In The rose bowl before They.

1791
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:58,559
Speaker 1: Played alabama so if, it rains that's also. Good news

1792
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:02,560
Speaker 1: but a guy that's got through plenty, of, rainstorms snowstorms,

1793
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 1: cloudy days dark Days with. Indiana football The Former indianapolis

1794
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 1: Star Columnist bill benner joining us On The Java house

1795
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 1: peel and poor, Guest, line bill are You on cloud

1796
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:14,840
Speaker 1: Eight or cloud seven or still hanging Around on?

1797
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 2: Cloud?

1798
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 6: NINE no i think It's about cloud fourteen.

1799
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 8: Right now it Would be.

1800
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 2: Cloud fifteen there you go soon To be? Cloud? Sixteen,

1801
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 2: right yeah we certainly.

1802
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 8: Hope So.

1803
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 14: And i've told, other PEOPLE even i was a, FORMER

1804
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 14: wordsmith i still run out of words to Describe what,

1805
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 14: i've witnessed to capture the essence of this incredible the

1806
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 14: Rags ter rich's story unlike any maybe any ever in

1807
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:51,839
Speaker 14: the world of certainly in the world of. Collegiate sport

1808
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 14: it's in. College football THERE'S nothing i think, can't compare

1809
01:37:58,800 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 14: Especially if.

1810
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 2: Inniana, out okay are you going by the Way, To, Miami, bill.

1811
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:07,600
Speaker 14: Yes sir. WE have i actually booked flights a couple of,

1812
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 14: weeks ago and so we're Fine In, fort lauderdale in

1813
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 14: and Out Of, fort Lauderdale leave saturday and come Back.

1814
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 2: On, tuesday okay so let's get. To THIS.

1815
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:21,640
Speaker 1: And i wanted to have you on BECAUSE and i

1816
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 1: know that we can sit here and talk and we

1817
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 1: will About what indiana has done to get to. This

1818
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 1: POINT but i want to further ELABORATE because i don't

1819
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 1: know that we can overstate where it is that they

1820
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 1: were and why it is. So incredible what was the

1821
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 1: First year bill when you Attended an indiana?

1822
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 2: Football game nineteen.

1823
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:45,639
Speaker 14: SIXTY four i was a sophomore On The Center, grove

1824
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 14: band In The Center, grove band and they Had, band

1825
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:54,879
Speaker 14: day and so that was my FIRST first iu. FOOTBALL

1826
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 14: game i believe it was A. Meta american it might

1827
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 14: Have been Miami of Ohio that. Indiana played it was a.

1828
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:06,719
Speaker 14: Sunsplash day it was, You know i've always and again

1829
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 14: not to sacrifice my OBJECTIVITY when i was, a columnist

1830
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 14: but my farm house growing up sat on a small

1831
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 14: block That overlooked indiana. Thirty seven the first TEAM that

1832
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 14: i could remember listening to on the radio was the

1833
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 14: nineteen Fifty Three National. CHAMPIONSHIP poosiers i, was five five

1834
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:34,600
Speaker 14: or six, years old six, years old AND so i

1835
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 14: always wanted to GO to i always wanted to GO,

1836
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 14: to iu and that was never. IN doubt i didn't have,

1837
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:42,559
Speaker 14: any money AND so i ended up WITH The, iu

1838
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 14: extension the fore Runner To. Iu pui in the first

1839
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:48,960
Speaker 14: two years that turned out to be an incredible, break

1840
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:51,599
Speaker 14: because as, You, KNOW jake i got a start as

1841
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 14: the scoreboy At, the indianapolistar and CERTAINLY thereafter i was

1842
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 14: able to move over to his force department and begin

1843
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 14: my sports. JOURNALISM career i finished my last two years

1844
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 14: Down in bloomington and certainly went every football GAME that

1845
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 14: i could continue to go to football GAMES as i

1846
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 14: covered high schools And.

1847
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 6: The pacers.

1848
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 14: But THEN when i became a and covered intercollegiate athletics

1849
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 14: That included peru And The notre Dame In ball state

1850
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 14: and the. State, whomever certainly during that period AND when i,

1851
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 14: became columnists my Infatuation with indiana football and certainly, my

1852
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 14: objectivity my infituation decreased and my objectivity. Increased proportionally what.

1853
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 9: Was the, Lowest point, Oh boy there's been so many,

1854
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 9: OF them, i RECALL and i may have really to

1855
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 9: this two YEAR before indi had a Loss.

1856
01:40:54,760 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 14: To rutgers this WAS about i, don't know fifteen, twenty

1857
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:05,080
Speaker 14: Sixteen and rutgers was nothing to talk.

1858
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 6: About it but it was like fifty.

1859
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 14: Eight to fifty five or something, like That, And indiana

1860
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 14: i've blown. The LEAD and i got into the car,

1861
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 14: and Gone, love God Love, don fisher as we.

1862
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 2: All DO but i Turned to.

1863
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:23,720
Speaker 14: SHERRY and, i said we are not listening to any

1864
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 14: of the, post game and we are turning off the

1865
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 14: radio and we are driving in silence till at least

1866
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 14: we get the four, sixty FIVE because I just i was,

1867
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 14: SO pissed i was, so aggravated and so we just

1868
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 14: sat in silence all. The way but there are a

1869
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:44,639
Speaker 14: number of Times When sherry knife looked at each other

1870
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 14: on the way home from another just hardening defeat and we,

1871
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 14: just go why do we? Do, this well the reason

1872
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 14: why is because it's become part of.

1873
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 13: Our lives and we.

1874
01:41:56,360 --> 01:42:00,080
Speaker 14: HAVE friends i told you about the longtime friend of

1875
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 14: the season TAKING older i Have. From connersville this is

1876
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 14: this is because it's become part of. Our lives so

1877
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 14: you take, the take you cherish the, whims uh and

1878
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 14: you hope for after, the losses you hope for a

1879
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 14: better game, next week and you just kind of ride.

1880
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 2: WITH it i was. Talking Earlier bill benner's.

1881
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 1: My guest he's On The Java house peel and poor,

1882
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 1: guest line The Former indianapolis, Star columnist and is it

1883
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:27,559
Speaker 1: OKAY if i Call you indiana football super fan in your, Retired?

1884
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 2: Life bill is?

1885
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 11: That?

1886
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:33,680
Speaker 2: Okay, well, yeah yeah. YEAH sure i was Talking to.

1887
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:38,719
Speaker 1: Sean mcdonne, about this and, YOU know i, Mentioned, earlier

1888
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 1: BILL and i want you to to tell me if

1889
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:44,560
Speaker 1: you disagree, with, this okay Because maybe i'm grasping at a.

1890
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 1: Straw here i'm the same high school graduating class As

1891
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 1: The fab Five, At, Michigan Okay, Juwan Howard, Chris Webber,

1892
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 1: Jalen Rose, Ray Jackson.

1893
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:55,639
Speaker 2: Jimmy king.

1894
01:42:57,000 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 1: And not only were they revolutionary, OR breaking i guess

1895
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 1: is a better way of, saying it because of the

1896
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 1: baggy shorts and the, black socks but it was the

1897
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 1: fact that it was unique and almost it was unprecedented

1898
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 1: to see five freshmen take college basketball by storm and

1899
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 1: have success immediately go to the championship game.

1900
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 2: As freshmen it just was so.

1901
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 1: Unheard of and that led to even though we were

1902
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 1: already kind, of there but that led to then the,

1903
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 1: you know the five star, recruiting cap putting the cap

1904
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 1: on and all of that and in recruiting services and.

1905
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:34,440
Speaker 1: Et cetera are we, Seeing, Now bill is it possible

1906
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 1: that what we're seeing is a watershed moment in terms

1907
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 1: of the architecture of college Football Because kurt signetti has

1908
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 1: said at, THIS point i don't have the five, star

1909
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:51,120
Speaker 1: Recruits so i'm going with productivity, over Potential and i'm

1910
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 1: going to go out and build a roster in the

1911
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 1: transfer portal era of guys that, have, maturity discipline. And

1912
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:02,719
Speaker 1: experience and we are seeing the fruits of that labor

1913
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 1: with this, veteran team even though they didn't all.

1914
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 2: Play together.

1915
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 1: Mature team is this now going to be the blueprint

1916
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:12,679
Speaker 1: that will be copycatted around?

1917
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:14,759
Speaker 2: College, football well.

1918
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:17,760
Speaker 14: It would be copy catted if, you could but not

1919
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 14: everybody will be able to. Do so, YOU know i

1920
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:24,640
Speaker 14: think the nil the poor area is.

1921
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 2: Still.

1922
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 14: Evolving absolutely indian has struck it beyond Rich with signetti

1923
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:43,640
Speaker 14: and his staff and his character development and his identification

1924
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,679
Speaker 14: of not just a, football player a physical, football player

1925
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:52,360
Speaker 14: but of the character of that young man and the

1926
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 14: character that can lead to an. UNTAPPED potential i think

1927
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 14: that's what we've seen up and down. This Roster, CHARLIE becker,

1928
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 14: I Mean charlie becker would be a classic example of a. Young,

1929
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 14: man well and we talk, about mentilitas but a young

1930
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 14: man who is over, mostly overlooked And the signetti has

1931
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 14: and his staff and whoever has made the initial contact

1932
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 14: with these, young fellas they've they've identified a the character

1933
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 14: that again allows for the development of that. Untapped potential

1934
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 14: and and, you know so what are other programs such

1935
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 14: as such such, as well we've seen Some. At vanderbilt

1936
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:53,440
Speaker 14: other cerennial losers can can use this model.

1937
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 2: To drag.

1938
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 14: Themselves up, YOU know i read a story Today About

1939
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:04,240
Speaker 14: mike vinski Talking about peru And how perue this is

1940
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 14: the this is the model that we need. To see

1941
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:11,679
Speaker 14: if we can tap into this kind of Model, at Perue,

1942
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 14: so indiana it's easy, to, Say yes i'm going to

1943
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:20,639
Speaker 14: Copy what indiana. Has done it will be, farm, less

1944
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 14: easy and less widespread in the teams and programs that

1945
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:25,720
Speaker 14: are able to.

1946
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 1: Do, it bill when's the last time you cried? In

1947
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:30,360
Speaker 1: sport when's the last time a sporting of it made?

1948
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 15: You?

1949
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 2: Cry Well. Rose, BALL okay.

1950
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:38,719
Speaker 14: I didn't i did not get emotional At The page

1951
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:43,560
Speaker 14: bowl because it was it was such a bud kicking not, that.

1952
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:47,560
Speaker 14: Nothing Nothing the alabama wasn't about. It KICKING but i

1953
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 14: the specter Of The rose bowl and the Fact that

1954
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:53,880
Speaker 14: i'd never been there was A fan. I covered, IN

1955
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:56,559
Speaker 14: fact I covered perdue when they played there in two thousand,

1956
01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 14: and ONE and i covered five Or Six. Rose bowls

1957
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:07,600
Speaker 14: but as that, game ended and the environment Of The

1958
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 14: rose bowl and the Fact that indiana Had beaten alabama,

1959
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 14: so soundly and ALL the iu fans around me enjoying

1960
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 14: and cherishing that, same moment including my wife sitting next,

1961
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 14: TO me i will get EMOTIONAL as i talk, about

1962
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:27,679
Speaker 14: this my wife and close friends sitting next.

1963
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 2: To, ME.

1964
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 14: Yeah i got emotional at the end Of the Rose

1965
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 14: BUL and i also got emotional at the end Of

1966
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 14: The Big ten championship game when when they when They Beat,

1967
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 14: ohio state and we knew then By Beating, ohio state

1968
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 14: we were going to return To The rose bowl for

1969
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 14: the first TIME since i was. A, teenager.

1970
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:53,719
Speaker 1: WELL listen i cried just By Watching ohio state. Fans

1971
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:55,640
Speaker 1: cry so that, was, COOL right, i mean you KNOW what,

1972
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 1: i mean so that was a that was an automatic

1973
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 1: to happen in, That, Situation BILL bennherm I guessed joba

1974
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 1: house peel and poor. Guest Line, SO bill i think

1975
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:08,599
Speaker 1: it's safe, to say Then if indiana is to finish,

1976
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 1: this OFF and i think, they will but there's a

1977
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 1: game to, be played you.

1978
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:14,760
Speaker 2: Will cry like. A. Baby correct.

1979
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:17,920
Speaker 14: Not sure i'll cry like, a Baby but I'M sure

1980
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 14: i will well up. With tears but, YOU know i

1981
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 14: TELL everybody i never looked further ahead than the, next

1982
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 14: play the, next kickoff and And so i'm not looking

1983
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:34,720
Speaker 14: any further ahead than the opening Kickoff against miami on their,

1984
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 14: home field even Though in indiana will be the. Home

1985
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 14: TEAM and i Certainly respect miami and what they, have

1986
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 14: accomplished JUST as I respected ALABAMA and I Respected, ohio

1987
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:53,719
Speaker 14: STATE and i respected that that team or The organ

1988
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 14: ducks that showed Up on saturday night So or. Friday

1989
01:48:56,479 --> 01:49:01,519
Speaker 14: NIGHTS so i don't want myself to get too far down,

1990
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 14: the road but if that, MOMENT comes i will sure certainly.

1991
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:10,439
Speaker 1: Be emotional if you got, To, PICK bill i thought,

1992
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 1: about THIS and i have a conflicting. Answer here if

1993
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 1: you got, to pick because they've worn so many different

1994
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 1: ones over the course of the last handful. Of years

1995
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 1: if they came to you and, They Said, bill better longtime,

1996
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 1: football supporter we are going to allow you to select

1997
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 1: which jersey and Which helmet indiana wares And The national.

1998
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:34,680
Speaker 1: Championship game which vintage are you?

1999
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 14: Going, WITH well i would go to the. CURRENT vintage

2000
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 14: I love, I like i love. Our uniforms that the

2001
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 14: fact that they say who's yours on? THE front i

2002
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 14: like these helmets WITH, the iu and, SO yeah i

2003
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 14: would be more than fine with the current ventagees.

2004
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 1: Because we all go back, to like, YOU know i

2005
01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:56,880
Speaker 1: get nostalgic from a, childhood STANDPOINT and i, think about,

2006
01:49:57,240 --> 01:50:00,720
Speaker 1: you know the Even the Anthony toms, an era the

2007
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 1: true crimson with the white eye, on it And then

2008
01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 1: hoosiers on, the jersey AND then i, also like even

2009
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 1: In the, corso era the more like cherry red with the.

2010
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 1: White eye AND then i think, to myself but this

2011
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:15,720
Speaker 1: is a different culture and a different atmosphere and a

2012
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 1: different Attitude of. Indiana football so you got to go with, what's,

2013
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 1: Worked right you got to go with the variation of.

2014
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 1: The CURRENT so i UNDERSTAND that i did want to

2015
01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 1: ask you this before we let.

2016
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 12: You.

2017
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 2: Go bill, you know.

2018
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 1: Much has been made and much will be made about

2019
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:34,360
Speaker 1: the Fact that indiana has a chance to be the

2020
01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:37,559
Speaker 1: first sixteen to oh team in. College football they will

2021
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:40,120
Speaker 1: be the most recent undefeated if they were, To win

2022
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 1: and of course the last team to do that in

2023
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 1: basketball is the Seventy, six hoosiers and this the fifty

2024
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 1: year mark. Of that that team was unblemished in the

2025
01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:52,599
Speaker 1: seventy five, regular season and so there was a lot.

2026
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:54,760
Speaker 1: Of expectation i'm sure, YOU know i was just a,

2027
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 1: kid then BUT but i am curious by. Your recollection

2028
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 1: how much will the undefeated nature discussed for the seventy

2029
01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 1: six basketball team throughout the course of, The year and

2030
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 1: how big was it in anticipation going into that Final

2031
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 1: against michigan of the thirty two to zero or was

2032
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:15,680
Speaker 1: there even the expectation that in twenty twenty six we

2033
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 1: would still be talking about that being the? Last one

2034
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 1: was it that incredibly unique coming off OF the ucla

2035
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 1: dynasty and.

2036
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 14: Everything, else well, you know going back, in history they

2037
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:31,480
Speaker 14: should have won it all on, seventy five And Had

2038
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 14: scott may not broken, his arm because that team was

2039
01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:40,040
Speaker 14: as many people have speculated over the years that team

2040
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 14: might have been a little bit better than even the.

2041
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 14: Seventy sixteen but, you Know, And, God jake i'm. So

2042
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 14: Blessed Like, DONALD fishing i. WAS there i got to

2043
01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:55,719
Speaker 14: write the sidebar For The indneppol star in nineteen seventy

2044
01:51:55,840 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 14: Six when indiana closed up that perfect basketball and uh

2045
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:04,720
Speaker 14: AND so I now i'm going, to be, you know

2046
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:09,839
Speaker 14: there as they maybe close out this perfect football season fifty.

2047
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:15,680
Speaker 14: Years later how how blessed AND fortunate i am to

2048
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 14: have those two events happen within my lifetime and to

2049
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 14: have been personally involved. IN witness, i mean it's it's.

2050
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 2: It makes.

2051
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:29,639
Speaker 14: My heart so you talk about getting An, Emotional, jake

2052
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 14: yeah that the talk to that gets. Me emotional but

2053
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 14: the seventy back to the, seventy sixteen IT was i

2054
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 14: don't want to say it. Was expected they barely Survived

2055
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 14: The michigan thank Goodness For wayne Radford And. Kennon benson

2056
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 14: uh in Some, way hall but that was that team was,

2057
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 14: so good. SO good i used to, say that tell

2058
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 14: People That bobby Wilferson And quinn buckner would pick up

2059
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 14: pick you Up in martinsville and guarded you all the Way,

2060
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 14: TO bedford Uh And ken Benson. And SCOTTI may i

2061
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 14: mean that team had all the components and even though

2062
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:15,760
Speaker 14: we had our disagreements as history, Wound Unfold bob knight

2063
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:18,639
Speaker 14: was a hull of the coach and He Was. Bob

2064
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 14: knight so but that was more or. Less expected if

2065
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:28,600
Speaker 14: you can expect an, unbeaten season this Had this what

2066
01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:35,040
Speaker 14: has transpired again For an indiana football, program that as

2067
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 14: many have, pointed out was prior to the season the

2068
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 14: liziness in college maker. College history for them to evolved

2069
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 14: THIS fast uh and become the number one team in

2070
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 14: the nation twenty of twenty five and Two, under siggetti.

2071
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 7: It's just.

2072
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:55,680
Speaker 14: Once again the wordsmith has.

2073
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:59,840
Speaker 1: NO words i would imagine that it has to be fewer.

2074
01:53:59,880 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 1: Than fifty i'm just gonna throw that. Number out the

2075
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 1: number of people that will be able to Say should

2076
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:07,719
Speaker 1: indiana close. THIS out i don't want to, jinx anything

2077
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:10,559
Speaker 1: but the number of people that would have been physically

2078
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 1: in attendance in the Spectrum, In philadelphia Pennsylvania on march

2079
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:17,960
Speaker 1: twenty ninth of, seventy Six when Indiana defeated michigan eighty

2080
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:19,920
Speaker 1: six sixty eight to go thirty two and ohero and

2081
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 1: the number of people that would be there to see

2082
01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:25,640
Speaker 1: the football team do the same fifty years later has

2083
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 1: To be i'd go fewer. Than fifty, But Nonetheless bill, Benner,

2084
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:33,960
Speaker 1: There bill i'll tell You what i'm not going to

2085
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 1: SAY when i will Say if, indiana wins we look

2086
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 1: forward to talking to you next week and getting you

2087
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 1: all choked up into a blubbering mess talking About The

2088
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:44,720
Speaker 1: indiana hoosiers as the.

2089
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:48,080
Speaker 2: National champions i'll be there, For, you.

2090
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:50,960
Speaker 14: Jake, And again i'm so honored that you would take

2091
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:54,720
Speaker 14: of me to have me On and golas.

2092
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 2: Appreciate, It Bill bill betner, Joining Us Java house peel

2093
01:54:57,680 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 2: and poor.

2094
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:01,720
Speaker 1: Guest line it, is remarkable. You Know The chris hagen

2095
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:08,520
Speaker 1: had asked me how many people can say that they

2096
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 1: have been TO Every nba finals game That The indiana pacers.

2097
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:14,640
Speaker 1: Have played hagen is one of them because he covered

2098
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 1: all of the games For the Lakers and pacers series

2099
01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:20,400
Speaker 1: in two thousand and covered all of the games For

2100
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:26,360
Speaker 1: The oklahoma City thunder. Pacer series and we came up

2101
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 1: with an extremely, short LIST and i, can imagine and

2102
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 1: that's only a twenty five, Year GAP so i can

2103
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 1: only imagine how hard it would be to come up

2104
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 1: with a list of people that would have been on

2105
01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 1: both sides of it from a basketball and football standpoint in.

2106
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 2: The fifty year gap between. Those two.

2107
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:53,960
Speaker 1: And it really is remarkable now, again historically and you'll

2108
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:56,320
Speaker 1: hear much mention of this over the course of THE.

2109
01:55:56,360 --> 01:56:00,440
Speaker 1: Week ucla the best way to say is the Way

2110
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:04,760
Speaker 1: my hall said On The Big. Ten Network if indiana

2111
01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 1: is able to Win next monday or, You know, monday

2112
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:12,640
Speaker 1: night a week, from Tonight then indiana would be the

2113
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:17,680
Speaker 1: most recent undefeated champion in, both sports which. Is remarkable

2114
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:24,440
Speaker 1: but in football it is obviously. More common it is

2115
01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:27,000
Speaker 1: the fact that in basketball for all of this time.

2116
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:28,400
Speaker 2: EVERY year.

2117
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:31,680
Speaker 1: I can tell you, Right, now nathaniel do me, a

2118
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 1: favorite please and pull up the current rankings in. College

2119
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:39,640
Speaker 1: basketball if you could go TO probably espn dot com

2120
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:44,520
Speaker 1: and pull up the college. Basketball RANKINGS and i Am

2121
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 1: like indiana fans have to do this more than any.

2122
01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:48,880
Speaker 2: Other sport.

2123
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 1: Let me know when you have it pulled up, Before

2124
01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:53,960
Speaker 1: you i'm going to read off to you all of

2125
01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:57,440
Speaker 1: the undefeated teams remaining in. College BASKETBALL and i couldn't

2126
01:56:57,480 --> 01:57:01,320
Speaker 1: see scores really over the weekend from a, National STANDPOINT

2127
01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 1: so i might be missing a, few Here but nebraska, is, undefeated,

2128
01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 1: Correct correct arizona, is undefeated correct and ranked. Number one, vanderbilt,

2129
01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 1: undefeated correct second best start in. Program HISTORY and I

2130
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 1: believe Miami of ohio is undefeated or was going into.

2131
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:24,560
Speaker 1: The weekend whether or, not they, you know slipped up

2132
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 1: and Lost, TO toledo i. Don't Know but Miami. Of,

2133
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:29,240
Speaker 1: ohio now are there any other Schools that?

2134
01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:29,480
Speaker 7: I'm?

2135
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:35,600
Speaker 2: Missing yeah they Beat, the boilers the team. That's undefeated

2136
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:38,520
Speaker 2: the Beat Oh iowa state is.

2137
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 1: Still undefeated, they okay surprising. Number Two So iowa state

2138
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 1: And so arizona's now In The. Big twelve right they play, One,

2139
01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:47,960
Speaker 1: another yes, That's right so they will cancel each. Other

2140
01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 1: out so one of those two could remain undefeated in the,

2141
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:54,120
Speaker 1: regular Season but vanderbilt then would have to slip up

2142
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:55,680
Speaker 1: TO the Sec And miami ohio IN.

2143
01:57:55,760 --> 01:57:57,560
Speaker 2: The mac is? That it that's all?

2144
01:57:57,600 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 11: Of?

2145
01:57:57,680 --> 01:57:58,200
Speaker 2: THEM right? I?

2146
01:57:58,240 --> 01:57:58,480
Speaker 11: Think? So?

2147
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah okay in, COLLEGE basketball i have always paid attention

2148
01:58:03,040 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 1: to that because, EVERY year, i Think and i've always

2149
01:58:07,480 --> 01:58:11,360
Speaker 1: loved the Fact that indiana was the. Last unbeaten it

2150
01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 1: is just such a special Thing for indiana People when

2151
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 1: kentucky came here and the year that they thought they

2152
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 1: were going to go forty to oh and they HAD

2153
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 1: the t shirts and, everything Else and wisconsin upset them in.

2154
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:27,400
Speaker 1: The semis, you know you almost Forget that wisconsin had

2155
01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:30,760
Speaker 1: to go play duke, after that because it Feels like wisconsin.

2156
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:33,320
Speaker 1: Won that that's the most memorable thing Of That, final

2157
01:58:33,400 --> 01:58:37,280
Speaker 1: four in particular because it Was, in Indianapolis and indiana

2158
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 1: fans were so keenly, like myself keeping an eye on

2159
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:46,160
Speaker 1: what was going to happen for whether Or not indiana

2160
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:50,960
Speaker 1: would remain the. Last unbeaten and EVERY year i look.

2161
01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 1: At that EVERY year i look to see who's the?

2162
01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:53,800
Speaker 2: Last.

2163
01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 1: UNBEATEN gonzaga i thought For sure gonzaga was going to,

2164
01:58:57,720 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 1: do it and Lo And beholdgenz it's Beat.

2165
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:00,760
Speaker 7: By.

2166
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:01,480
Speaker 2: Baylor right.

2167
01:59:03,200 --> 01:59:06,640
Speaker 1: It, is inconceivable BECAUSE all i wanted was To see

2168
01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:10,080
Speaker 1: indiana be the last one for. Fifty years and it

2169
01:59:10,240 --> 01:59:13,880
Speaker 1: is inconceivable to think of all of the TEAMS that

2170
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:17,640
Speaker 1: i thought could potentially go undefeated in college basketball to

2171
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:23,360
Speaker 1: match Seventy. SIX indiana i never would have guessed that

2172
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:27,200
Speaker 1: there was the possibility that their football program would actually

2173
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:28,600
Speaker 1: be doing it in the fifty.

2174
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:34,480
Speaker 2: YEAR anniversary i. GET it i get the fact that

2175
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:38,320
Speaker 2: people are probably worn out of hearing. ABOUT it i.

2176
01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:46,920
Speaker 2: Get it but it. Is unbelievable LARRY.

2177
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:49,600
Speaker 1: From ksr by, THE way ksr the best wings and

2178
01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:52,760
Speaker 1: their beer is ice cold at Seventy First Keystone. Ice

2179
01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:56,320
Speaker 1: cold larry POINTS out unlva. The nineties absolutely unlv in

2180
01:59:56,480 --> 02:00:00,720
Speaker 1: ninety was Beaten by arkansas in the. Regular season when

2181
02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:03,840
Speaker 1: they came into the Final four fada complee they were

2182
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 1: gonna win it all And then duke beat him in

2183
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:06,600
Speaker 1: the semis here in.

2184
02:00:06,680 --> 02:00:07,400
Speaker 2: The dome that's.

2185
02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:09,640
Speaker 1: The thing there have been three different teams that have

2186
02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:12,080
Speaker 1: come to a final Four in indy undefeated trying To

2187
02:00:12,120 --> 02:00:16,200
Speaker 1: match indiana couldn't get. It done, pretty REMARKABLE.

2188
02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:17,360
Speaker 9: Uh.

2189
02:00:17,560 --> 02:00:19,040
Speaker 2: Nfl playoffs.

2190
02:00:20,520 --> 02:00:23,600
Speaker 1: Did we learn anything over, the WEEKEND because i think

2191
02:00:23,640 --> 02:00:24,560
Speaker 1: it was a bad Weekend For.

2192
02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:27,400
Speaker 2: Chris ballard i'll tell.

2193
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:30,880
Speaker 4: You why This is Querry in company on ninety three

2194
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:32,440
Speaker 4: five and one oh seven Five.

2195
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:34,959
Speaker 1: THE fan i don't know if you've, Noticed, this nathaniel

2196
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:36,960
Speaker 1: and it's only been of late this has been. Taking

2197
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:40,120
Speaker 1: place We had remember we had the chipmunk that runs

2198
02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:43,120
Speaker 1: the computer and occasionally at the old place that we

2199
02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:45,440
Speaker 1: used to be At, the chipmunk we'd catch him having a. Smoke, break,

2200
02:00:45,640 --> 02:00:50,160
Speaker 1: right Well that, chipmunk retired we we have A new

2201
02:00:50,240 --> 02:00:52,280
Speaker 1: chipmunk has done a. Good job but when we go

2202
02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:55,880
Speaker 1: to the, phone lines occasionally he's he does amphetamines and

2203
02:00:56,040 --> 02:00:59,080
Speaker 1: so everything speeds up a little bit and then and

2204
02:00:59,200 --> 02:01:01,760
Speaker 1: so we're working. On that but, right there he just

2205
02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:03,960
Speaker 1: stepped out for a quick. Smoke break, it, appears right

2206
02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:05,520
Speaker 1: happens from time.

2207
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:06,480
Speaker 2: To time it.

2208
02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:08,800
Speaker 1: DOES happen nfl playoffs will get into it in just.

2209
02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:11,880
Speaker 1: A minute actually wanted to bring in real quick on

2210
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:15,600
Speaker 1: the phone lines at two. Three nine what is the telephone?

2211
02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:20,240
Speaker 1: NUMBER here i almost said one oh seven five, seventy

2212
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:24,200
Speaker 1: obviously right that is where we Go and nick joins

2213
02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:25,600
Speaker 1: us on. The Program, hi nick how are, You?

2214
02:01:26,560 --> 02:01:28,240
Speaker 13: Hey jake i'm. Doing wonderful how are, you?

2215
02:01:28,280 --> 02:01:29,360
Speaker 8: DOING sir i am.

2216
02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:31,240
Speaker 2: Well thinking by, the way this, Isn't, banned nick?

2217
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:31,400
Speaker 12: Is?

2218
02:01:31,440 --> 02:01:34,720
Speaker 2: It, NO well i didn't mean it.

2219
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:36,120
Speaker 1: That way there's a guy that calls in the Show

2220
02:01:36,160 --> 02:01:38,000
Speaker 1: named nick that always claims that he's been banned from the,

2221
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:39,200
Speaker 1: radio Station which i've never.

2222
02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:42,400
Speaker 2: BANNED anybody. I didn't i think it. Was you it

2223
02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:44,600
Speaker 2: doesn't sound, very banned, that's right? All right what's?

2224
02:01:44,640 --> 02:01:44,880
Speaker 11: Going? On?

2225
02:01:45,080 --> 02:01:46,800
Speaker 2: Nick oh not?

2226
02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:49,640
Speaker 11: Too much great song selection there by the way on,

2227
02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:52,640
Speaker 11: the songboard. Love IT so i just was giving you

2228
02:01:52,720 --> 02:01:54,360
Speaker 11: guys a call because, you mentioned, you know maybe only

2229
02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:55,520
Speaker 11: fifty people have.

2230
02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:56,920
Speaker 13: Been to, both Games and i'm.

2231
02:01:57,040 --> 02:01:59,720
Speaker 11: LUCKY enough i will be going with a gentleman who

2232
02:01:59,880 --> 02:02:02,600
Speaker 11: was At The national championship in, seventy six and he

2233
02:02:02,720 --> 02:02:05,880
Speaker 11: will be At This national Championship in miami here Come.

2234
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:06,960
Speaker 13: Next monday what's?

2235
02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:07,040
Speaker 12: His?

2236
02:02:07,160 --> 02:02:10,360
Speaker 13: Name Nick ed rovieiro is?

2237
02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:15,920
Speaker 2: His name and ed is d is what relation? TO you, i, mean, buddy,

2238
02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:17,600
Speaker 2: uncle NEIGHBOR.

2239
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:21,560
Speaker 13: Buddy i think of. His family is the father OF my, iu,

2240
02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:24,600
Speaker 13: roommate actually so my little MATE. At iu it was.

2241
02:02:24,680 --> 02:02:27,000
Speaker 13: His dad so it's a family of foosiers.

2242
02:02:27,040 --> 02:02:29,560
Speaker 2: Over there and so you're going to how many of

2243
02:02:29,600 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 2: you guys? Are going.

2244
02:02:31,960 --> 02:02:32,120
Speaker 12: Eight?

2245
02:02:32,200 --> 02:02:33,560
Speaker 13: Of us eight of us?

2246
02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:34,960
Speaker 2: Right now so you got your, tickets?

2247
02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:38,840
Speaker 11: Right yes and things have been a little wild WITH

2248
02:02:38,960 --> 02:02:42,960
Speaker 11: the iu priority, seating too but everyone is trying to

2249
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:43,920
Speaker 11: come to this game from around.

2250
02:02:43,960 --> 02:02:44,800
Speaker 13: The world it's been a.

2251
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:47,520
Speaker 1: Little, while okay did you are you driving or are?

2252
02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:50,400
Speaker 1: You flying because the flights. Are, outrageous right.

2253
02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:53,560
Speaker 11: We're flying we're getting there a day ahead of time

2254
02:02:53,600 --> 02:02:55,080
Speaker 11: and then staying for a couple of.

2255
02:02:55,120 --> 02:02:56,800
Speaker 13: Days after did you go To The?

2256
02:02:56,920 --> 02:02:58,720
Speaker 2: Peach bowl did you go To the Rose bul? Either

2257
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:00,120
Speaker 2: One The?

2258
02:03:00,200 --> 02:03:02,600
Speaker 13: Rose, bowl actually and it was one of the greatest

2259
02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:05,040
Speaker 13: moments in? Our Life is hoosier fans that?

2260
02:03:05,320 --> 02:03:08,760
Speaker 2: The, greatest okay let me ask, You, this nick And

2261
02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:09,640
Speaker 2: The rose bowl.

2262
02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:11,879
Speaker 1: IS fabulous i mean everything, about, it right, it's beautiful,

2263
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:14,400
Speaker 1: the stadium it's historic and. All that the ONLY thing

2264
02:03:14,440 --> 02:03:16,120
Speaker 1: i would say about it is it was built in

2265
02:03:16,200 --> 02:03:18,400
Speaker 1: like nineteen twenty and you can tell because the seats

2266
02:03:18,440 --> 02:03:20,200
Speaker 1: are super tight and getting in and out as.

2267
02:03:20,200 --> 02:03:21,360
Speaker 2: A nightmare true?

2268
02:03:21,400 --> 02:03:24,840
Speaker 13: Or false one hundred. Percent true it's an all. Day

2269
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:25,840
Speaker 13: event did?

2270
02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:28,280
Speaker 11: You hear it was like flooded where ALL the iu

2271
02:03:28,360 --> 02:03:29,960
Speaker 11: fans had to, hang out so there was like under

2272
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:34,120
Speaker 11: two feet of water. Mud everywhere before, the game they

2273
02:03:34,160 --> 02:03:37,480
Speaker 11: were pumping water out of the. Pregame party it.

2274
02:03:37,640 --> 02:03:41,360
Speaker 1: Was insanity here's, the, thing though seventy two percent of

2275
02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:43,760
Speaker 1: those people were at the snake pit in the EIGHTIES,

2276
02:03:43,800 --> 02:03:44,800
Speaker 1: at ims so it was no.

2277
02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:46,720
Speaker 2: Big deal they're like, As cool we're used.

2278
02:03:46,720 --> 02:03:46,760
Speaker 4: To.

2279
02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:47,280
Speaker 2: It right.

2280
02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:50,880
Speaker 13: You know you can tell because they're good. On mud

2281
02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:51,560
Speaker 13: they don't flip.

2282
02:03:51,640 --> 02:03:52,080
Speaker 11: On mud they.

2283
02:03:52,120 --> 02:03:55,400
Speaker 2: Walk slow, that's right. That's right don't want to spill

2284
02:03:55,440 --> 02:03:56,200
Speaker 2: your beer in. The, mud.

2285
02:03:56,680 --> 02:03:59,840
Speaker 1: NICK listen i appreciate you. Calling in MORE so i

2286
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:03,240
Speaker 1: appreciate you listening to, the SHOW and i would love

2287
02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:05,560
Speaker 1: for you to. Call in, And again i'm going to,

2288
02:04:05,600 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 1: say WHEN because i don't want to. Jinx, Anything well i'll,

2289
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:10,480
Speaker 1: say IF because i don't want to jinx anything to.

2290
02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:13,080
Speaker 1: Say when but Should the hoosiers, WIN it i want

2291
02:04:13,120 --> 02:04:15,560
Speaker 1: you to call in. Next week, all right you?

2292
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:15,920
Speaker 11: Got it?

2293
02:04:16,200 --> 02:04:19,720
Speaker 2: All right nick is on his Way to miami Along.

2294
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:20,080
Speaker 11: With ed.

2295
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:24,560
Speaker 1: That's cool was at the seventy, six game and we'll

2296
02:04:24,600 --> 02:04:27,240
Speaker 1: be There on. MONDAY night i DID, mention.

2297
02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:28,880
Speaker 2: NFL but i want to get to this because this

2298
02:04:29,080 --> 02:04:31,240
Speaker 2: was just sent to me a little. Bit ago.

2299
02:04:32,840 --> 02:04:35,960
Speaker 1: Many of you may have heard of the allegation or

2300
02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:38,840
Speaker 1: the situation taking Place With, marcus Freeman The notre dame,

2301
02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:41,720
Speaker 1: football coach and an allegation of.

2302
02:04:43,640 --> 02:04:44,160
Speaker 2: Assault.

2303
02:04:44,320 --> 02:04:49,840
Speaker 1: OR battery a physical altercation then allegedly took place over

2304
02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:54,520
Speaker 1: the course of the. Last Month, the south they, excuse

2305
02:04:54,560 --> 02:04:58,320
Speaker 1: Me The Saint Joseph County prosecutor's office has issued the.

2306
02:04:58,360 --> 02:05:00,120
Speaker 2: FOLLOWING statement i will read it to you you.

2307
02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:04,160
Speaker 1: Right Here on, january third twenty, twenty six officers With

2308
02:05:04,240 --> 02:05:07,320
Speaker 1: The Mishawaka police department responded to a complaint of battery

2309
02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:10,400
Speaker 1: that occurred at a high school wrestling tournament Hosted At

2310
02:05:10,440 --> 02:05:14,920
Speaker 1: Mishiwaka high School Involving. Marcus freeman the incident occurred at

2311
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:17,680
Speaker 1: the exit doors to the gymnasium and was captured on.

2312
02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:23,000
Speaker 1: Video surveillance numerous witnesses were interviewed. By police that investigation

2313
02:05:23,240 --> 02:05:26,920
Speaker 1: was thereafter tendered to. This office after Reviewing The Mishiwaka

2314
02:05:26,960 --> 02:05:31,000
Speaker 1: police department's investigation into, this Incident The prosecutor's office has

2315
02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:35,720
Speaker 1: determined that no criminal. Battery occurred, as such no criminal

2316
02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:39,880
Speaker 1: charge will be filed Against. Mister, freeman generally this office

2317
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:42,320
Speaker 1: does not comment on cases in which no charges. Are,

2318
02:05:42,360 --> 02:05:45,560
Speaker 1: filed however because numerous media outlets have commented on, the

2319
02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:51,960
Speaker 1: allegations this office believed inappropriate to release. Its, findings basically

2320
02:05:52,120 --> 02:05:57,120
Speaker 1: what it comes down to Is That marcus freeman's son

2321
02:05:57,360 --> 02:06:02,840
Speaker 1: was at a wrestling match an assistant wrestling coach at

2322
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:06,120
Speaker 1: a local. High school i'm reading, this now advised responding

2323
02:06:06,160 --> 02:06:08,320
Speaker 1: officers that he was approached by a person who said

2324
02:06:08,360 --> 02:06:12,440
Speaker 1: something he could. Not recall the complainant stated that the

2325
02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:15,520
Speaker 1: person then gave him, a quote two. Handed push he

2326
02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:18,839
Speaker 1: further stated that he had quote no clue what motivated.

2327
02:06:18,880 --> 02:06:20,360
Speaker 2: The push he.

2328
02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:22,520
Speaker 1: Stated that he learned from someone else that the person

2329
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:25,800
Speaker 1: who shoved Him Was. Marcus Freeman mister freeman had left

2330
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:28,520
Speaker 1: the high school before officers were able to speak.

2331
02:06:28,560 --> 02:06:33,360
Speaker 2: With, Him now I'm No, perry MASON.

2332
02:06:35,400 --> 02:06:39,400
Speaker 1: But i find it kind of hard to believe that

2333
02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:43,840
Speaker 1: someone living In The Mishawaka south bend area who is

2334
02:06:43,880 --> 02:06:46,440
Speaker 1: attending a sporting event would Not Recognize.

2335
02:06:46,520 --> 02:06:49,720
Speaker 2: Marcus FREEMAN but i guess, it's possible but.

2336
02:06:49,840 --> 02:06:52,720
Speaker 1: You would think immediately, people, say oh the kid, wrestling

2337
02:06:52,760 --> 02:06:56,840
Speaker 1: there that's the Son Of. Marcus freeman basically what this comes.

2338
02:06:56,880 --> 02:07:03,040
Speaker 1: Down to during the subsequent interview, with detectives the complainant

2339
02:07:03,160 --> 02:07:05,800
Speaker 1: reiterated That mister freeman gave him a two, handed push

2340
02:07:05,840 --> 02:07:08,480
Speaker 1: which caused him to. Stumble backwards he advised detectives that

2341
02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:12,240
Speaker 1: he immediately Recognized. Mister freeman that seems contrary to the,

2342
02:07:12,280 --> 02:07:14,960
Speaker 1: previous statement. But okay he also advised officers that he

2343
02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:18,160
Speaker 1: Believed mister freeman was quote rich and that he planned

2344
02:07:18,160 --> 02:07:21,520
Speaker 1: to hire. An attorney officers interviewed two acquaintances of. The

2345
02:07:21,560 --> 02:07:25,280
Speaker 1: complainant one acquaintance to Described mister freeman shoving the complainant

2346
02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:28,520
Speaker 1: with an. Open hand another said That mister freeman stuck him,

2347
02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:31,960
Speaker 1: struck him causing the complaint to be pushed backwards by.

2348
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:35,480
Speaker 1: THE blow a review of the video evidence does not support.

2349
02:07:35,720 --> 02:07:38,800
Speaker 1: Those assertions while the video of the incident is from,

2350
02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:42,440
Speaker 1: a distance officers were able to Identify mister freeman in.

2351
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:45,200
Speaker 1: The video officers were able to Observe mister freeman moving

2352
02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:48,520
Speaker 1: to leave a crowded gym with. His son the exit

2353
02:07:48,600 --> 02:07:51,680
Speaker 1: doors were. Partially Blocked mister freeman walked towards. The doors

2354
02:07:51,720 --> 02:07:54,800
Speaker 1: the video shows the complainant moving from his position near

2355
02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:58,240
Speaker 1: the doors and Approached. Mister Freeman mister freeman turned down

2356
02:08:00,160 --> 02:08:03,440
Speaker 1: towards the complainant and paused for approximately. One second he

2357
02:08:03,560 --> 02:08:07,160
Speaker 1: then left the auditorium at. A, walk basically what this

2358
02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:11,680
Speaker 1: comes down to is some over zealous wrestling coach guy

2359
02:08:12,440 --> 02:08:14,080
Speaker 1: tried to start Something With, marcus freeman.

2360
02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:17,680
Speaker 2: Who left so there. You go but that was a

2361
02:08:17,760 --> 02:08:20,400
Speaker 2: big story over the course of. THE Week.

2362
02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:25,040
Speaker 1: Nfl playoffs, LAST night i THOUGHT the i thought.

2363
02:08:24,880 --> 02:08:29,200
Speaker 2: It ended with. A dud i thought the best game of.

2364
02:08:29,280 --> 02:08:31,600
Speaker 1: The playoffs there were a lot of, great games, you

2365
02:08:31,680 --> 02:08:33,839
Speaker 1: Know Clearly, Green bay chicago.

2366
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:36,760
Speaker 2: Was fabulous carolina And the rams. Was GREAT.

2367
02:08:39,480 --> 02:08:43,040
Speaker 1: And i just, feel like and, You Know san francisco

2368
02:08:43,240 --> 02:08:45,320
Speaker 1: ekeing out that Win in philly was.

2369
02:08:46,120 --> 02:08:50,960
Speaker 2: VERY impressive i thought it was a bad weekend For

2370
02:08:51,080 --> 02:08:56,680
Speaker 2: the colts in. This regard it's bad obviously because they're,

2371
02:08:56,760 --> 02:08:57,560
Speaker 2: not playing.

2372
02:08:59,520 --> 02:09:04,240
Speaker 1: But raditionally each of the factors that has gone into

2373
02:09:04,400 --> 02:09:09,480
Speaker 1: Putting the colts in the position they're in of again messing,

2374
02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:12,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs not being on the, national RADAR and i

2375
02:09:12,120 --> 02:09:13,680
Speaker 1: know they got out to the great start. THIS year,

2376
02:09:17,080 --> 02:09:21,360
Speaker 1: i Thought matt stafford continuing to play at a very

2377
02:09:21,440 --> 02:09:24,360
Speaker 1: high level For. The rams and, You Know matthew stafford

2378
02:09:24,400 --> 02:09:29,080
Speaker 1: has gotten now into the category of when he's on the,

2379
02:09:29,120 --> 02:09:32,040
Speaker 1: other sideline you think, to yourself his team's, Never out

2380
02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:35,080
Speaker 1: they're never out of It Because matthew, stafford's There right

2381
02:09:35,720 --> 02:09:41,320
Speaker 1: and so, you know When the colts were looking for,

2382
02:09:41,560 --> 02:09:47,720
Speaker 1: a quarterback and rumor has it or report has always

2383
02:09:47,800 --> 02:09:51,160
Speaker 1: Been That frank Reich And jim mursay both Really Like,

2384
02:09:51,240 --> 02:09:53,920
Speaker 1: matthew Stafford But chris Ballard Thought carson wentz was the.

2385
02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:59,880
Speaker 1: Better selection little bit of, insinuation THERE but i think

2386
02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:05,080
Speaker 1: probably some truth, To it but, either way it does

2387
02:10:05,160 --> 02:10:12,120
Speaker 1: not look good For the colts' decision Making that stafford

2388
02:10:12,200 --> 02:10:14,560
Speaker 1: is not was not considered.

2389
02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:15,400
Speaker 2: MORE heavily.

2390
02:10:17,200 --> 02:10:20,280
Speaker 1: I think it looks and it mutes a little bit

2391
02:10:20,360 --> 02:10:24,640
Speaker 1: Of the colts discussion about how this year their season

2392
02:10:24,840 --> 02:10:27,200
Speaker 1: was derailed. By INJURY and i. Get It daniel jones

2393
02:10:27,200 --> 02:10:31,280
Speaker 1: went down for. THE year i, Get it but reality

2394
02:10:31,400 --> 02:10:35,680
Speaker 1: also Is That san francisco has been as dinged up.

2395
02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:42,120
Speaker 1: AS anybody, I Mean san francisco has had nearly historical

2396
02:10:43,160 --> 02:10:49,680
Speaker 1: injury build up and yet here, they are and so

2397
02:10:49,880 --> 02:10:52,160
Speaker 1: You can't it's hard to sit there, and, say well

2398
02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:55,160
Speaker 1: injuries were the reason that any team is not where

2399
02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:57,520
Speaker 1: they are When In, san francisco that includes at the.

2400
02:10:57,560 --> 02:11:00,200
Speaker 1: Quarterback position not for, THE year, i realize but they

2401
02:11:00,360 --> 02:11:02,840
Speaker 1: had a quarterback there ready, to GO and i.

2402
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:04,800
Speaker 2: Get it richardson was, HURT also i, get it.

2403
02:11:06,640 --> 02:11:09,200
Speaker 1: But it just, to me it feels like you can't

2404
02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:12,200
Speaker 1: necessarily go to that well every time when you have

2405
02:11:12,280 --> 02:11:13,960
Speaker 1: a team playing at a high level that has gone

2406
02:11:13,960 --> 02:11:16,200
Speaker 1: through the injuries that. They have and then at the quarterback,

2407
02:11:16,240 --> 02:11:21,360
Speaker 1: spot also You Know Drake May. New England new england

2408
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:23,520
Speaker 1: didn't sit there and dilly dally around and go with,

2409
02:11:24,040 --> 02:11:26,440
Speaker 1: you know one hundred different options at quarterback up and

2410
02:11:26,480 --> 02:11:29,800
Speaker 1: they Have. Mac Jones They new england has always, been

2411
02:11:29,880 --> 02:11:33,880
Speaker 1: proactive and they were proactive and going out, and saying you,

2412
02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:36,080
Speaker 1: know what we've got to upgrade at the, quarterback Spot

2413
02:11:36,120 --> 02:11:37,560
Speaker 1: And drake may is the guy that we're going to.

2414
02:11:37,600 --> 02:11:38,840
Speaker 1: Do it and it didn't matter who they had or

2415
02:11:38,880 --> 02:11:40,440
Speaker 1: didn't have or. Whatever else they went and. Got him

2416
02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:42,800
Speaker 1: and it looks like he's going to be a very.

2417
02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:47,160
Speaker 1: Good quarterback and maybe in that next guard he kind

2418
02:11:47,200 --> 02:11:50,920
Speaker 1: of feels like he Has a stafford like trajectory in front.

2419
02:11:50,960 --> 02:11:54,240
Speaker 1: Of him but IT just i thought there was illumination

2420
02:11:54,440 --> 02:11:57,680
Speaker 1: from a number of different teams IN the nfl that

2421
02:11:58,280 --> 02:12:03,480
Speaker 1: countered reasons and excuses we give ourselves to feel better About.

2422
02:12:03,520 --> 02:12:07,520
Speaker 2: THE colts i saw. Jamb earlier we will see if

2423
02:12:07,520 --> 02:12:10,040
Speaker 2: he is here or out. IN about i haven't. Seen

2424
02:12:10,120 --> 02:12:11,200
Speaker 2: him is he out in the about or is he?

2425
02:12:11,240 --> 02:12:12,840
Speaker 2: Here today do We? KNOW nathaniel i think. He's here,

2426
02:12:12,960 --> 02:12:13,400
Speaker 2: all right we.

2427
02:12:13,400 --> 02:12:14,960
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Speaker 2: The fan so you never know who you might see in.

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Speaker 1: The building, sitting here looked out the window to See

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Speaker 1: if jmv's on his way in for.

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Speaker 2: The crossover and.

2436
02:12:32,320 --> 02:12:36,200
Speaker 1: WHO do i see But from trackside And The Indianapolis,

2437
02:12:36,240 --> 02:12:38,600
Speaker 1: Motor Speedway kirk cavin in the building picking up your?

2438
02:12:38,640 --> 02:12:39,320
Speaker 2: Parking pass is, That?

2439
02:12:39,440 --> 02:12:41,600
Speaker 1: Right kert now, hang on we got to see if your,

2440
02:12:41,680 --> 02:12:43,680
Speaker 1: mic works your key card, doesn't work or your key

2441
02:12:43,720 --> 02:12:47,560
Speaker 1: card works but your mic Doesn't which, Mike, Here nathaniel.

2442
02:12:48,520 --> 02:12:49,320
Speaker 2: Now we can hear him?

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02:12:49,360 --> 02:12:49,480
Speaker 6: All?

2444
02:12:49,560 --> 02:12:51,640
Speaker 2: Right now now go how are we? Doing that there,

2445
02:12:51,720 --> 02:12:52,640
Speaker 2: We go there, we go there.

2446
02:12:52,680 --> 02:12:56,000
Speaker 16: We, Go okay So s kevin's always saying he doesn't

2447
02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:57,480
Speaker 16: know if his key. Card works we have a new.

2448
02:12:57,560 --> 02:13:00,200
Speaker 16: Key CARD now i did park right out of, the

2449
02:13:00,280 --> 02:13:03,680
Speaker 16: DOOR so i got. Right in what is the schedule for?

2450
02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:06,080
Speaker 1: Trackside here because it's hard, TO believe, i mean we're

2451
02:13:06,120 --> 02:13:08,880
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty some days from the five hundred

2452
02:13:08,960 --> 02:13:09,680
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty something.

2453
02:13:09,720 --> 02:13:11,720
Speaker 2: Like that but it'll be here before we, know, It, right.

2454
02:13:12,080 --> 02:13:14,480
Speaker 16: Well, You Know doug bowles keeps the, official COUNT so

2455
02:13:14,520 --> 02:13:16,200
Speaker 16: i can't say how many days To the indy, five

2456
02:13:16,280 --> 02:13:19,480
Speaker 16: hundred but. He knows and, for us it's it's really

2457
02:13:19,600 --> 02:13:21,840
Speaker 16: just once a. Week somewhere once a week you can

2458
02:13:22,120 --> 02:13:26,040
Speaker 16: keep track of the, social channels. You Know it's i've

2459
02:13:26,080 --> 02:13:28,480
Speaker 16: been working on stuff From an, IndyCar standpoint and what

2460
02:13:28,600 --> 02:13:30,640
Speaker 16: really kind of got me fired up today was just

2461
02:13:30,720 --> 02:13:33,280
Speaker 16: kind of looking through some of the. Old Stats rick

2462
02:13:33,360 --> 02:13:36,720
Speaker 16: mears eleven front row starts in fifteen years Of, THE

2463
02:13:36,760 --> 02:13:38,400
Speaker 16: speedway i mean something.

2464
02:13:38,520 --> 02:13:40,880
Speaker 2: Like that it will never. Happen, again yeah, YOU'RE right

2465
02:13:41,080 --> 02:13:42,040
Speaker 2: i mean it's it's.

2466
02:13:41,920 --> 02:13:43,840
Speaker 1: A, and kurt you can make, the argument by, the

2467
02:13:43,880 --> 02:13:48,560
Speaker 1: Way trackside tuesday's seven o'clock right here on this, Radio

2468
02:13:48,640 --> 02:13:51,720
Speaker 1: station Pacers and celtics tonight. At seven by, The, way

2469
02:13:51,920 --> 02:13:56,320
Speaker 1: kurt one of the things about mirrors that, we forget

2470
02:13:56,920 --> 02:14:00,600
Speaker 1: even with all of the incredible accomplishment relatively speaking by.

2471
02:14:00,640 --> 02:14:04,080
Speaker 1: Today's standard, you know, RETIRED early i mean still basically in,

2472
02:14:04,160 --> 02:14:04,760
Speaker 1: his prime right.

2473
02:14:05,160 --> 02:14:08,480
Speaker 16: He did and we talk about willpower being such a

2474
02:14:08,720 --> 02:14:13,040
Speaker 16: great qualifier In The. IndyCar, Series uh mears was on

2475
02:14:13,120 --> 02:14:16,920
Speaker 16: the poll twenty percent of all, his races, twenty percent one.

2476
02:14:16,960 --> 02:14:19,240
Speaker 16: IN five, I mean i know he Drove For team

2477
02:14:19,280 --> 02:14:22,680
Speaker 16: penske and and in, That Era team penske was, you

2478
02:14:22,720 --> 02:14:26,880
Speaker 16: Know is alabama football kind of, the Equivalent.

2479
02:14:26,480 --> 02:14:29,520
Speaker 2: But indiana football by today's well now that was by that.

2480
02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:34,720
Speaker 16: Standard again but, You know mears. Is unbelievable and, THE

2481
02:14:34,840 --> 02:14:36,800
Speaker 16: fact I mean i don't say, this OFTEN but i

2482
02:14:36,840 --> 02:14:38,560
Speaker 16: can say it. To you THE fact i was texting

2483
02:14:38,640 --> 02:14:41,280
Speaker 16: with him this morning about that. VERY subject i just

2484
02:14:41,480 --> 02:14:44,640
Speaker 16: it's hard to, believe that, you know you get a

2485
02:14:44,760 --> 02:14:47,040
Speaker 16: chance to be around. Your heroes we we've been around

2486
02:14:47,040 --> 02:14:49,960
Speaker 16: a lot of them fight And retty mears right there

2487
02:14:49,960 --> 02:14:53,360
Speaker 16: for all, of them and it's just it's just great

2488
02:14:53,400 --> 02:14:55,640
Speaker 16: to have them as part of our city and, you

2489
02:14:55,720 --> 02:14:56,320
Speaker 16: know people we.

2490
02:14:56,440 --> 02:14:57,280
Speaker 2: Work with i've told the.

2491
02:14:57,320 --> 02:15:00,960
Speaker 1: Story before several, YEARS ago i was In Toront IndyCar

2492
02:15:01,080 --> 02:15:03,400
Speaker 1: RACE and i was calling the race from, up above,

2493
02:15:03,560 --> 02:15:05,080
Speaker 1: you know one of the areas where all the, spotters

2494
02:15:05,080 --> 02:15:07,240
Speaker 1: are and at That time mears was Spotting for El.

2495
02:15:07,240 --> 02:15:09,560
Speaker 1: E oh there was a, rain delay so to, FILL

2496
02:15:09,640 --> 02:15:11,880
Speaker 1: time i was one of. The, spotters today, you know

2497
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:14,080
Speaker 1: do some. Trivia Questions so i'm giving out trivia and all,

2498
02:15:14,080 --> 02:15:16,400
Speaker 1: these guys and one of THE questions i, asked was

2499
02:15:16,440 --> 02:15:18,160
Speaker 1: who are the only two drivers to Win the indy

2500
02:15:18,240 --> 02:15:23,160
Speaker 1: five hundred in three? Different, Decades okay and you know they're,

2501
02:15:23,320 --> 02:15:25,120
Speaker 1: going around they're throwing, out names and, you know Like.

2502
02:15:25,400 --> 02:15:27,440
Speaker 1: Uncle bobby, i'm like of course that's one, of, them right,

2503
02:15:27,560 --> 02:15:28,480
Speaker 1: sixty eight, seventy five.

2504
02:15:28,560 --> 02:15:31,280
Speaker 2: Eighty one and they couldn't come up with.

2505
02:15:31,320 --> 02:15:33,040
Speaker 1: A third they're sitting there THING because i think he

2506
02:15:33,120 --> 02:15:35,680
Speaker 1: Think of meares as like almost, you know just the

2507
02:15:35,800 --> 02:15:38,880
Speaker 1: eighties and then the. Early nineties but, So anyway meers

2508
02:15:38,960 --> 02:15:41,160
Speaker 1: is standing there in. The back he's one of, the

2509
02:15:41,200 --> 02:15:44,120
Speaker 1: spotters but he's not. Chiming in AND finally, i go

2510
02:15:44,240 --> 02:15:46,840
Speaker 1: do you want to tell him? The Answer and kurt

2511
02:15:46,960 --> 02:15:49,960
Speaker 1: he was like uncomfortable, With, it yeah because he doesn't

2512
02:15:50,120 --> 02:15:52,160
Speaker 1: like talking about his, own accomplishment you KNOW what. I

2513
02:15:52,240 --> 02:15:54,080
Speaker 1: mean like he just is a, humble dude just a

2514
02:15:54,160 --> 02:15:54,440
Speaker 1: down to.

2515
02:15:54,480 --> 02:15:57,600
Speaker 16: EARTH dude i taxed right now this morning about his

2516
02:15:58,160 --> 02:16:01,480
Speaker 16: that period of. His career his, response was it just

2517
02:16:01,560 --> 02:16:03,040
Speaker 16: shows how good the team was year.

2518
02:16:03,040 --> 02:16:05,160
Speaker 2: After, year yep that. Sounds exactly and this.

2519
02:16:05,200 --> 02:16:07,440
Speaker 16: Is just two guys talking about racing in the Middle.

2520
02:16:07,480 --> 02:16:11,560
Speaker 16: Of january but he's an. Amazing individual we've been lucky

2521
02:16:11,640 --> 02:16:13,560
Speaker 16: to have him around. So long, you know he was

2522
02:16:13,560 --> 02:16:16,360
Speaker 16: the winningest driver of. THE eighties, i mean it's all

2523
02:16:16,400 --> 02:16:19,240
Speaker 16: the great drivers we've seen in. The eighties, you know

2524
02:16:19,280 --> 02:16:20,800
Speaker 16: he kicked, her butt so he.

2525
02:16:20,920 --> 02:16:23,840
Speaker 1: Was, dominant here. No question, All right so track side,

2526
02:16:23,880 --> 02:16:26,640
Speaker 1: tomorrow ight. Seven, o'clock right, that's right, All Right kirk

2527
02:16:26,720 --> 02:16:28,840
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Speaker 15: Up great, Big show great. Big, show yeah Great big

2531
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Speaker 15: he said that with all the. Big, show hey, you

2532
02:16:40,320 --> 02:16:43,720
Speaker 15: know here's. Something INTERESTING so i rarely saw much of

2533
02:16:43,840 --> 02:16:47,000
Speaker 15: my DAD and i haven't brought him up. Very much

2534
02:16:47,040 --> 02:16:50,800
Speaker 15: but He attended miami once upon, a time and rumor

2535
02:16:50,879 --> 02:16:53,959
Speaker 15: has it he started out on the freshman football team

2536
02:16:54,120 --> 02:16:57,959
Speaker 15: and was banished after the. First, semester really rumor also,

2537
02:16:58,080 --> 02:16:59,840
Speaker 15: has it and you can look. This up i'm not

2538
02:17:00,120 --> 02:17:02,280
Speaker 15: able to. VERIFY that i know he was down there at,

2539
02:17:02,320 --> 02:17:05,320
Speaker 15: that time but his rumor or the rumor. Has in

2540
02:17:05,440 --> 02:17:08,720
Speaker 15: his Roommate Was. Pete banisak if you remember The Name,

2541
02:17:08,760 --> 02:17:11,400
Speaker 15: pete banisak who played For the RAIDERS and i think

2542
02:17:11,480 --> 02:17:15,640
Speaker 15: now does Something in jacksonville With. The jaguars but it's like.

2543
02:17:15,760 --> 02:17:18,640
Speaker 15: Unsolved mysteries i've been trying to track down. That information

2544
02:17:18,760 --> 02:17:21,360
Speaker 15: so did he play high School football Indiana At? Laport,

2545
02:17:21,400 --> 02:17:25,320
Speaker 15: Indiana Okay laport indiana AND then i Went to miami

2546
02:17:26,080 --> 02:17:29,720
Speaker 15: again as my mom has, told me and then. Flunked

2547
02:17:29,760 --> 02:17:34,000
Speaker 15: out he passed that gene down. Quite well not a

2548
02:17:34,080 --> 02:17:36,240
Speaker 15: lot of things he, passed down but that was one

2549
02:17:36,320 --> 02:17:39,400
Speaker 15: OF them. I got he passed away in. TWENTY seventeen

2550
02:17:39,440 --> 02:17:41,920
Speaker 15: i had no idea even passed away until a friend

2551
02:17:41,959 --> 02:17:44,520
Speaker 15: of mine saw It, on facebook so We were we're

2552
02:17:44,600 --> 02:17:47,400
Speaker 15: not tight by any stretch of, the imagination but a

2553
02:17:47,440 --> 02:17:50,600
Speaker 15: little bit of a backstory Regarding The miami hurricane. FOOTBALL

2554
02:17:50,720 --> 02:17:55,520
Speaker 15: program I, Think Banisak, GEORGE meira i think was also

2555
02:17:55,600 --> 02:17:56,640
Speaker 15: a part of that team.

2556
02:17:56,640 --> 02:17:56,920
Speaker 11: One in the.

2557
02:17:57,000 --> 02:17:58,960
Speaker 2: Early, SIXTIES yea i was going to, say SIXTIES but

2558
02:17:59,000 --> 02:17:59,520
Speaker 2: i think it may have.

2559
02:17:59,520 --> 02:18:01,680
Speaker 15: Been a fresh team because do they have a freshman

2560
02:18:01,760 --> 02:18:02,720
Speaker 15: team and then a regular?

2561
02:18:02,760 --> 02:18:04,840
Speaker 2: Team, too yeah because back then you couldn't.

2562
02:18:04,840 --> 02:18:07,160
Speaker 15: Play varsity so if somebody, wants to Like private dick

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Speaker 15: and find out exactly what was going on with. MY dad,

2564
02:18:09,520 --> 02:18:12,080
Speaker 15: i mean he could be have been lying, about everything, but.

2565
02:18:12,440 --> 02:18:17,800
Speaker 1: Okay Didn't sylvester stallone either Go to miami or spend

2566
02:18:17,840 --> 02:18:22,000
Speaker 1: Time in. Miami honestly so there's a prominent person, in

2567
02:18:22,040 --> 02:18:23,920
Speaker 1: town a friend of mine's mother who's very. Prominent town

2568
02:18:23,920 --> 02:18:26,280
Speaker 1: i'm not gonna, Say. Names deier she Went to miami

2569
02:18:26,360 --> 02:18:28,760
Speaker 1: And Dated sylvester stallone While.

2570
02:18:28,800 --> 02:18:30,160
Speaker 2: At miami i'm sure.

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Speaker 1: Of this was HE sly I think i don't know

2572
02:18:33,080 --> 02:18:35,360
Speaker 1: IF he i don't know if he went by sly

2573
02:18:35,560 --> 02:18:37,280
Speaker 1: or Just was maybe they broke up because he was

2574
02:18:37,280 --> 02:18:37,600
Speaker 1: a little.

2575
02:18:37,600 --> 02:18:38,560
Speaker 2: Too sly that might be.

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02:18:38,640 --> 02:18:39,000
Speaker 13: THE case i.

2577
02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:41,120
Speaker 15: Don't know i'm having a good time Along with james

2578
02:18:41,200 --> 02:18:43,880
Speaker 15: trying to find Old school hurricanes to come on, the

2579
02:18:43,920 --> 02:18:46,760
Speaker 15: Show because I've Had melvin branton on before because he

2580
02:18:46,879 --> 02:18:47,760
Speaker 15: used To Rep.

2581
02:18:47,760 --> 02:18:50,560
Speaker 2: Anthony richardson so he was on maybe three or so.

2582
02:18:50,720 --> 02:18:55,000
Speaker 15: Years Ago Randall thrill hill is one word With And

2583
02:18:55,280 --> 02:18:57,840
Speaker 15: steve walsh who, was here yeah he. As well he

2584
02:18:57,959 --> 02:18:59,320
Speaker 15: is a guy that's going to come on later on.

2585
02:18:59,440 --> 02:19:02,160
Speaker 15: This WEEK so i kind, of dig, you know sifting

2586
02:19:02,240 --> 02:19:05,160
Speaker 15: through the rebel the Old. School hurricanes i'm trying To Get.

2587
02:19:05,240 --> 02:19:06,800
Speaker 15: Michael urban what do you think the Odds are i've

2588
02:19:06,840 --> 02:19:09,640
Speaker 15: reached OUT to i think. Pretty, GOOD yeah i think they're. Really,

2589
02:19:09,680 --> 02:19:12,840
Speaker 15: good yeah so. We're trying we're trying to. Do THAT

2590
02:19:13,120 --> 02:19:15,920
Speaker 15: so i like that those teams were fun. AS hard

2591
02:19:16,040 --> 02:19:18,640
Speaker 15: i mean to, watch listen and they're they're.

2592
02:19:18,680 --> 02:19:21,200
Speaker 1: REALLY good, I mean i, you Know we, oregon's Great and,

2593
02:19:21,240 --> 02:19:24,480
Speaker 1: alabama's Great And ohio. STATE'S great, I, mean indiana there's

2594
02:19:24,520 --> 02:19:26,320
Speaker 1: no reason to Think if indiana stays at This that

2595
02:19:26,440 --> 02:19:27,120
Speaker 1: indiana doesn't.

2596
02:19:27,120 --> 02:19:28,960
Speaker 16: Do It but miami, is good and that front four

2597
02:19:29,200 --> 02:19:32,160
Speaker 16: is he's going to master the physicality. They are that's

2598
02:19:32,240 --> 02:19:34,840
Speaker 16: the one TEAM that i thought could match. Their physicality by,

2599
02:19:34,840 --> 02:19:36,920
Speaker 16: the way the one thing that bothers me about the.

2600
02:19:36,959 --> 02:19:40,080
Speaker 16: Whole thing they've been Talking about indiana and buying Players

2601
02:19:40,160 --> 02:19:42,920
Speaker 16: and Milan and cuban, and all, you know all. These

2602
02:19:43,000 --> 02:19:46,040
Speaker 16: things let's just Total up miami's players over the years

2603
02:19:46,080 --> 02:19:46,600
Speaker 16: and see what the.

2604
02:19:46,680 --> 02:19:49,920
Speaker 1: Dollar, for, well yeah, come on the, quarterback alone that's

2605
02:19:50,000 --> 02:19:55,160
Speaker 1: right driving around In a lamborghini and. He upgraded he

2606
02:19:55,240 --> 02:19:57,120
Speaker 1: had the one girlfriend that was an influencer and now

2607
02:19:57,160 --> 02:20:00,080
Speaker 1: he's got a professional influencer and the. Whole deal, All

2608
02:20:00,160 --> 02:20:02,400
Speaker 1: Right so john's, Up Next, kurt cavin you'll hear him

2609
02:20:02,400 --> 02:20:04,800
Speaker 1: Along With kevin lee tomorrow night seven o'clock For Track

2610
02:20:04,879 --> 02:20:07,960
Speaker 1: side Pacers And action tonight taking On. The celtics we

2611
02:20:08,040 --> 02:20:10,760
Speaker 1: will discuss. That tomorrow john is. Up next he will

2612
02:20:10,800 --> 02:20:12,760
Speaker 1: bring you home for the rest of, the way and,

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02:20:12,840 --> 02:20:14,200
Speaker 1: AS always i thank you for Listening To.

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Speaker 2: Querying company