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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Best of the Fan morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 2: We've been talking about can the Pacers find themselves a center?

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Speaker 3: How do they go about doing that?

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Speaker 2: Nick writes in he agrees with James that Big Z

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Speaker 2: from the Clippers would potentially be a great addition, but

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Speaker 2: he also read over the week in the asking prices

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Speaker 2: three first round picks and a player says he's read

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Speaker 2: that on a couple of different places online.

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Speaker 3: Three first round picks and a player for Big Z.

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Speaker 4: You hang up the phone with that, So, yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: not gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: No, probably not.

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Speaker 5: And I know it's hard to pronounce his name, but

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Speaker 5: I don't know if Big Z's reigning to our entire

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Speaker 5: audience out there. Aviza Zubotses, who were talking about the

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Speaker 5: Clippers center, Uh, definitely a very strong rebounder. Probably you're

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Speaker 5: not looking at much from a great great rim protection standpoint,

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Speaker 5: nor I don't seem to recall much stretching the floor

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Speaker 5: ability really at all from him. He has had quite

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Speaker 5: a few big games against the Pacers, so I'm sure

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Speaker 5: when Kevin Pucher and company are sitting up there watching

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Speaker 5: Pacers Clippers. In recent years, he's had big games and

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Speaker 5: this kind of something I've hit on a lot here

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Speaker 5: the last few weeks when we talked about center. Where

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Speaker 5: was he drafted? I don't know, I'm gonna look, he's

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Speaker 5: the second round pick. Like you know, these guys like

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Speaker 5: it is a position of the NBA where you throw

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Speaker 5: darts at a dart board and it can get real random,

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Speaker 5: real quick. Now you early second round pick, think of

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Speaker 5: it kind of like the Entro nemhard world. But still,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's not like the Clippers had some lottery pick.

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Speaker 5: So that's where I get torn on it. Of like, man,

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Speaker 5: New James, you brought this up. You're really trading that

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Speaker 5: for a position that you find vastly different backgrounds to

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Speaker 5: the high level centers in the in the league.

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Speaker 4: I mean, think about it.

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Speaker 6: When's the last time a team won a championship and

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Speaker 6: their best player was a center not named Nikola Jokic.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's very rare. You probably have to

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Speaker 6: go back to thinking. If you want to count him

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Speaker 6: Duncan as a center, you got to go back to Shack.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm looking trying to think of all the

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Speaker 6: recent champions that have had NBA Finals MVPs, and it's

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Speaker 6: usually a ball handler or a shot creator or someone

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Speaker 6: who runs your offense like Tyrey's Haliburton did when the

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Speaker 6: Pacers made it to the finals last year. So that's

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Speaker 6: why I'm hesitant to give up so much of my future.

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Speaker 6: That future I would think involving Benedict Matheren for a

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Speaker 6: player that you can probably upgrade at that position and

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Speaker 6: still be flawed to a degree, but still have a

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Speaker 6: very good team around that player. That's where I'm at

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Speaker 6: with it, Like I don't know if my if I'm

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Speaker 6: weighing what matters more on a scale, I'm not looking

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Speaker 6: at one side of the scale and saying, well, we

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Speaker 6: have a big hole at the five spot. We have

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Speaker 6: to do whatever we can to upgrade at that spot.

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Speaker 6: To me, it should be a little bit more of

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Speaker 6: let's try to upgrade. But keep in mind this position,

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Speaker 6: if we're looking at all the premium poisons in the NBA,

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Speaker 6: isn't as high as he used to be.

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Speaker 2: Just curious twenty sixteen draft is where he comes from.

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Speaker 3: Do you know who has picked eleventh overall on that draft?

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Speaker 3: Do you remember another I no chance from the center

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Speaker 3: power forward.

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Speaker 2: Demons Sabonis was in that draft class and the highest

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Speaker 2: picked guy that played center power forward dragging bender.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know that is his Sun dragging bender

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Speaker 5: Phoenix Sun at one point there.

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Speaker 6: So I'm looking at, uh if he's to do with Zubac.

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Speaker 6: He is twenty eight, so he kind of fits what

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Speaker 6: you would want from a if we go after somebody

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Speaker 6: like this, can they a part of our second run

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Speaker 6: or our new future assuming that some things change over

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Speaker 6: the next couple of years with Tybree s Taliburn coming back.

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Speaker 4: And I do think he fits that part of it.

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Speaker 6: From a salary standpoint, it seems like you would also fit.

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Speaker 6: But again, I think it's a little more complicated than

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Speaker 6: just looking at can we go get him?

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Speaker 4: It's what are you giving up?

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Speaker 6: And I'm very curious too, And that's the part of

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Speaker 6: it that I'm just not so sure about Kevin is

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Speaker 6: if you keep mathering, you have to pay him because

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Speaker 6: at that point, well, let me back up. Do you

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Speaker 6: think that this is a conversation that the Pacers can

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Speaker 6: put off any longer?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean technically they could sign and trade him. Yes,

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Speaker 5: in the summer.

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Speaker 4: Again, I'm asking the question.

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Speaker 5: He is a restricted free agent, so this is not

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Speaker 5: I think as expiring expiring as maybe what the Turner

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Speaker 5: yeah contract, If this was.

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Speaker 6: Exactly the same he was unrestricted, I believe, right right,

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Speaker 6: So it's not exactly Apple staffles there.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting that you bring that up, James,

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Speaker 5: because it's not part of the mathering discussion we've had

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Speaker 5: just yet. We've had it more rooted in, hey, you

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Speaker 5: need a center. You have a few more wings on

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Speaker 5: your roster. Look at the twenty twenty sixth draft. It's

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Speaker 5: wing heavy, especially at the top of that draft class.

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Speaker 5: But John and I were talking about this afternoon, what

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Speaker 5: about dipping your toes into that luxury tax? That was

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Speaker 5: the conversation. We have a Turner, right, are you willing

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Speaker 5: as a franchise to give him the question the contract

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Speaker 5: that gets you into the luxury tax? The Pacers elected

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Speaker 5: not to do that. And again, whatever te said she

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Speaker 5: said with the whole Turner Milwaukee Bucks thing, I'll stand by.

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Speaker 5: I don't think the Pacers would have matched, nor should

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Speaker 5: they have. Frankly, but having said that, are we still

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Speaker 5: playing that game? Are we still hardballing that? Because in

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Speaker 5: my mind, with Tyre's Halliburton putting on sneakers next year

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Speaker 5: that are Puma's. Again, that's no longer a discussion, Like

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Speaker 5: the window is back open and you need to financially

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Speaker 5: back that up. So some people have said that, hey,

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Speaker 5: that's too much money to pay a six man. You

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Speaker 5: don't have the finances to do the matther and thing. Well,

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Speaker 5: if you're willing to go into the tax, you do

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Speaker 5: have those finances. And again that's part of the discussion

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Speaker 5: we really haven't had and it's probably more of a

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Speaker 5: simon discussion than anything. But is that giving any sort

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Speaker 5: of pause to the matherin future? Here right now, I

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Speaker 5: want to say, they're like five or six million under

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Speaker 5: the luxury tax, So you know, is there you know

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Speaker 5: a little bit of an off the radar move we

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Speaker 5: haven't discussed yet that could get them a little closer

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Speaker 5: to the tax here in the next you know, eight

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Speaker 5: hours for the deadline hits at three o'clock. So again

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Speaker 5: that that part of it we just haven't really put

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Speaker 5: a lot of time into. I don't think it should

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Speaker 5: be a discussion, but the history of this franchise would

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Speaker 5: indicate it probably is more of a discussion.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be fascinating again on Friday night

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Speaker 2: when Milwaukee hosts the Indiana Pacers. Is Janni Santana Coupo

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Speaker 2: still on that basketball team for Milwaukee. Is Benedict Mathren

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Speaker 2: still suiting up for the Indiana Pacers? Or you know,

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Speaker 2: we been talking a lot about mathroom. But I guess

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Speaker 2: the you talk about off the radar, smaller trades, whatever,

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Speaker 2: maybe there are other people that aren't on the roster

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night. So we'll keep an eye on it and

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Speaker 2: listen up for you all day long and let you

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Speaker 2: know as soon as something happens. We also are in

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Speaker 2: the midst of Super Bowl Week, and I can't remember.

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Speaker 3: Is it just us because we're not that into it?

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Speaker 3: But has there been a less hyped Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: If I know, we'd feel different if we're in the

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Speaker 2: host cities of you know, not the host cities, but

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Speaker 2: the cities of Seattle and Boston, that whole area up there,

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Speaker 2: but nationally doesn't. Does it kind of feel like it

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Speaker 3: Or is that just us?

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Speaker 4: Maybe just us?

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Speaker 6: I mean I feel like it's the same as any

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl when it comes to the hype. I guess

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Speaker 6: you don't have like the big name in it. But personally, well,

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Speaker 6: I feel like I'm asking myself this question is kind

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Speaker 6: of crazy because I'm a huge sports fan, so I

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Speaker 6: wouldn't care who was in a super Bowl. It would

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Speaker 6: be a big deal to me. So I'm not so sure.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how do you guys feel about it?

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Speaker 5: I think some of it comes from like Darnold and May.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they're not in a necessarily yeah, they're not.

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Speaker 5: You know, the big names obviously that you typically have

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Speaker 5: from a quarterback standpoint, you know locally, you know from

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Speaker 5: I want to say the Max and Hook kid, the

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Speaker 5: new pal safety is on the Seahawks practice squad, and

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Speaker 5: I think that's really it. I know there's a couple

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Speaker 5: of Notre Dame guys. Julian Love is one of Seattle's

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Speaker 5: better defensive backs. He's a Notre Dame guy. I did

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Speaker 5: see Elijah Surat's brother, Chaz Serat. He was a linebacker

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Speaker 5: activated off of IR so he could play in the game. Actually,

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Speaker 5: coming up for where Drake Man was a full participant

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Speaker 5: in practice, I did see Nick even worry one of

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Speaker 5: the better Seahawks players did leave practice yesterday with an

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Speaker 5: ankle injury. So he is a big time versatile weapon

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Speaker 5: already as a rookie for Seattle. So maybe that's something

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Speaker 5: some of it. But you know, again, come six o'clock

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Speaker 5: on Sunday, I don't think you're reading a book.

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Speaker 7: I think it's just the fact also that we're in

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Speaker 7: that valley of the where get to the game already,

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Speaker 7: it's been two weeks, let's go.

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Speaker 1: It's to that point.

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Speaker 5: I'm be saying that about the college football chippion.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny Matthew Stafford who had such a great,

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Speaker 2: long career without the ultimate success in Detroit, and then

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Speaker 2: he goes to the Rams and he wins the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl and now you see him on all kinds of

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Speaker 2: commercials and things like that. What do you suppose the

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Speaker 2: commercial viability is of a Sam Darnald after the journey

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Speaker 2: that he's had, if he just shows up on Sunday

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Speaker 2: and lights things up and does what he's been doing

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Speaker 2: all season long and what he did last year with Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: If he goes out there throws realistically two hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventy five yards and a couple of touchdowns and the

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Speaker 2: Seahawks win by I don't know, seven eight points something

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Speaker 2: like that. Does he start to elevate himself? Do you

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Speaker 2: start seeing him in insurance commercials?

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Speaker 4: I'm not so sure that's something Sam Donald wants.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I guess everyone has a price right that

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Speaker 6: they're willing to ask for to be in those sorts

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Speaker 3: Say two lines and hang out on said.

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Speaker 6: For I'm not going to hold my brain on the

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Speaker 6: San donald sneaker or cleat coming out.

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Speaker 5: But one thing I am remind of with this quarterback matchup,

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Speaker 5: and again, we should have been done with this conversation

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Speaker 5: frankly years ago. But can we finally finally finally put

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Speaker 5: to bed the Andrew Luck retirement excuse when it comes

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Speaker 5: to the Colts, like, so.

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Speaker 4: What made you think of that?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 5: In this regard, Seattle in New England obviously played in

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Speaker 5: a Super Bowl here whatever it was, you know, six

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Speaker 5: seven years ago. Hopefully the kids out there heard that

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Speaker 5: on their way to school seven years ago.

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Speaker 5: He get mentioned at the season under what was he mentioned?

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Speaker 6: I believe so, because remember I threw at him, Hey,

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Speaker 6: what's your best accomplishment during your tenure? And then he

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Speaker 6: But when that name was no longer uttered than the

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Speaker 4: A new era will have arrived.

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Speaker 9: Mark, we got prop bet, dude coming up nine o'clock

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Speaker 9: get of it. But I'm always like, who's got the gatorade?

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Speaker 3: Prop bet? Where's that at?

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Speaker 4: Can you explain what that is?

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Speaker 2: It's the color, whether it's blue or the lemon lime

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Mark?

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Speaker 5: Can we nerd out over one?

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Speaker 7: Can I hit one before it was blue? I picked

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Speaker 3: Come on?

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Speaker 5: Now, what will be the first penalty of the game?

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Speaker 3: Holding Now?

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Speaker 5: I feel like there's been an emphasis in a certain

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Speaker 5: Anybody want to really get nerdy here at seven forty

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Speaker 3: We usually leave that to you, but I'll join the party.

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Speaker 5: Particular penalty you feel like it's been called more than others.

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Speaker 2: This year, pass interference, defensive pass interference, delay of game.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to go with I don't. I feel like

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Speaker 5: So roughing the passer you can get pretty GOODDS on

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Speaker 5: that's plus one thousand, so ten dollars to win one hundred.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go a little bit longer than that. I

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Speaker 5: feel like we've had a lot of illegal formations.

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Speaker 3: We had guys that are not to tackle.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they whistle that dude, And I feel like the

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Speaker 5: Colts have had several of those this season. So you

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Speaker 3: But they've also been calling penalties on guy dollars.

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Speaker 5: To win one hundred and twenty dollars. Now, again, those

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Speaker 5: are long odds. Fall starts plus one six to your

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Speaker 5: guys points holdings obviously, great odds delay of games plus

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Speaker 5: there you go.

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Speaker 4: I like that one degenerate thing. Could you imagine doing that?

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Speaker 3: Boy?

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Speaker 4: I guess everyone enjoys the game different ways.

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Speaker 7: The last football game of the year, James gotta let

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Speaker 7: a ride, baby.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: I'm not I don't mind that, but I'm just like, man,

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Speaker 6: I'm sitting next to you and you're and they throw

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Speaker 4: And it's not for the outcome of the game.

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Speaker 6: That to me was a long I'm gonna be looking

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Speaker 6: at you a little little Soudway was like, man, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I also like Kevin because they've called a lot of

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Speaker 5: We've seen that they could be on whiteouts, tight ends,

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Speaker 5: Shout out to the great Nick Gardner radio analysts. He's

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Speaker 5: probably going on about two hours of sleep after last night.

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Speaker 5: He just texted me, said legal formation. Then I thought

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Speaker 7: I bet like that if there's offsetting penalties on the

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Speaker 5: I would assume, And boy, now Mark's really getting in

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Speaker 3: I'd assumes that's a veteran question right there.

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Speaker 5: I assume it's your first accepted penalty, right I don't

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Speaker 5: many penalty yardage Alec Pierce drew this past season. He

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Speaker 5: three games something like that. Like I've ejected the softest

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Speaker 5: By the way, franchise tag opens up like a week

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Speaker 5: I think they tagged Michael Pittman Junior pretty late in

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Speaker 5: out to Alec Pierson the amount of penalty artiitud drew.

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Speaker 2: The other thing I like about Pierce too, and he

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Speaker 3: He makes all those catches.

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Speaker 2: I think he is now a legitimate whatever you wanted

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Speaker 5: A lot of the back shoulder stuff. The Seattle game, James,

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Speaker 5: maybe at some point, Mark, we can get to that.

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Speaker 5: Michael Pittman Junior audio from out the Super Bowl, James,

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Speaker 5: he's been. I know, he was really candid with you

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Michael Pittman Junior.

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Speaker 2: I had read an article day before yesterday when the

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Speaker 6: I'm not surprised at all that he would do that,

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Speaker 3: Let's get it done.

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Speaker 5: Here's kind of like he's a Montana grizzy.

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Speaker 3: He's a rancher, isn't he he is?

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Speaker 6: Which is he's everything he does is the opposite of

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Speaker 6: I think overall, he just doesn't really fit, you know,

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Speaker 4: Now we'll see if.

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Speaker 6: That continues with the Colts are elsewhere, so I'm very

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Speaker 6: Got to fix the attitude.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 4: You can't be going off the refs.

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Speaker 6: I was like, you want to get paid in this league,

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's a bad path to go now. And

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Speaker 5: I will repeat what I said the Monday after the

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Speaker 5: crying emoji, I roll emoji. You think emoji was more

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Speaker 3: I think the whole situation of six seven is what

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Speaker 5: And again I'll echo what I said, and Max Bowen's

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Speaker 6: I have heard this a little bit more, but boy,

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Speaker 5: He does something in the middle. I forget what rhymes

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, that's beautiful stuff.

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Speaker 5: As long as he's picking that up and not picking

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Speaker 3: Your daughter's throwing numbers back out at you, Mark Dyson.

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Speaker 5: What do you want a thing?

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Speaker 10: Mark?

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Speaker 5: Am I?

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Speaker 3: What is that? Million times? Already?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 7: Is this dead yet? Have we not killed this thing?

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Speaker 7: And the now they're trying to associate other numbers with

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Speaker 5: Buddy of mine, Mark sent you know he'll be done

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Speaker 3: The the DX crosh chop.

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Speaker 5: I just fully done that.

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Speaker 3: Oh I I wanted to keep it closed.

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Speaker 6: I believe it's still fine in the NBA because Joel

443
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,199
Speaker 6: Embiid loves loves to do it.

444
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Speaker 1: He does.

445
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 4: He's got the money, I guess to afford to do it.

446
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,680
Speaker 5: So liking Bead's antics by the way, I know, I

447
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 5: don't know if we're supposed to like him, but I

448
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 5: kind of like him.

449
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,199
Speaker 4: I think I would.

450
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 6: I think I complain about the annoying players in any league,

451
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 6: but I would miss them if they were gone.

452
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

453
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Speaker 5: He kind of has a fun twist. It brings spid

454
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Speaker 5: on social media. He's kind of funny.

455
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,880
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, see, I mean he's he's character. He's playing

456
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 6: very good basketball as of late. So shout out to

457
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 6: John Beid.

458
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,959
Speaker 5: How many times Mark probably did that going up, crowing up.

459
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Speaker 7: I still do it to this day when I see

460
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Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers on My Bad.

461
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Speaker 3: He's not on camera right now.

462
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 5: We don't know.

463
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Speaker 4: Keep your pants on please, by the way, when you're

464
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 4: doing that.

465
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Speaker 2: Mark won twice already, the Bears beat the Packers, and uh,

466
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 2: your boy Aaron Rodgers is out of the playoffs.

467
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Speaker 3: So to the first first go round. It's good for you.

468
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Speaker 1: Oh you're like, there we go.

469
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Speaker 3: I thought you had that on speed dial.

470
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Speaker 1: Right, that's the wrong button.

471
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,640
Speaker 3: All right, quick time out.

472
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Speaker 2: We'll talk more about the NBA trade deadline, some college basketball,

473
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Speaker 2: what lies ahead for the super Bowl in less than

474
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Speaker 2: seventy two hours. It's all coming up next ninety three five,

475
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Speaker 2: one oh seven five.

476
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Speaker 3: The fan he's got questions? How about a game? They

477
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 3: have got answers.

478
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Speaker 1: I'm more of a you know, corn hoole man myself.

479
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 3: Sports music, movies, what cit high fashion that hants als

480
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 3: so hot right now and everything in between.

481
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,360
Speaker 1: You're seeing a foot with four to two each.

482
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 3: Time to get a glimpse into the mind of Mark

483
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 3: dyked In. Stop it. You're scaring me each time for

484
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 3: I gotta know, Okay, you to punk. I want a

485
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 3: good clean fight.

486
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 4: Let's get it all.

487
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Speaker 7: All right, boys, We've been talking about NBA trade deadline

488
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 7: all morning long. So your level of disappointment if the

489
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Speaker 7: Pacers do not make a move before the deadline.

490
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Speaker 6: Today, I'm gonna say, on a scale of one to ten,

491
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 6: level of disappointment they don't make a move will probably

492
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 6: be like a two. I wouldn't be upset about it

493
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Speaker 6: at all. I would honestly try to rationalize why they

494
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Speaker 6: didn't make the move, And as we talked about, I

495
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 6: don't know if there's a great move out there to

496
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Speaker 6: be made.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go zero, but I'll even say

498
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Speaker 2: one to kind of emphasize what you're saying there, James,

499
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Speaker 2: I would not be disappointed in the least if the

500
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Speaker 2: Pacers stand pat right now, knowing they've got a big

501
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 2: draft pick coming up, knowing there's some things they can still.

502
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Speaker 3: Do down the road.

503
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 2: Again, if it turns out you can make a deal

504
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 2: that completely and clearly makes you better, I get it.

505
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Speaker 3: But I don't see that happening right now.

506
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Mark, I know we've done the mathering thing pretty

507
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 5: much all week long, but they could do something else

508
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 5: that's not involving him. Again, they're about five or six

509
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 5: million underneath the luxury tax, So given that I go

510
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 5: a little higher than what these two are going, I

511
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Speaker 5: probably go a little bit more like four or five,

512
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Speaker 5: just because I do think there's an opportunity again related

513
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 5: to still do something that could help you out later

514
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 5: down the road.

515
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm there with you, Kevin.

516
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 7: I think you don't necessarily have to get someone that

517
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 7: impacts the team right now, but could you get some

518
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 7: draft compensation going forward so you get me to have

519
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 7: a bigger haul come the draft.

520
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 5: Or take on some salary, but get that draft coup.

521
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Speaker 8: Sat.

522
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Speaker 7: You don't have to deal mathering necessarily, but if you

523
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 7: can get some compensation that helps you going forward and

524
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 7: doesn't tank your draft odds, I'm all for that one,

525
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 7: all right. The worst thing currently going on in sports

526
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 7: the NIL and college load management in the NBA, the MLB,

527
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 7: spending discrepancy, officiating across the board or other. What is

528
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 7: the one thing that's driving you guys nuts in the

529
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 7: current sports climate right now?

530
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Speaker 2: Jeez, I'll start off old school load management drives me crazy.

531
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Speaker 1: Now.

532
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Speaker 2: If it's an older player who's dealing with specific issues,

533
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 2: I get that. Guys that are relatively healthy in their

534
00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 2: mid twenties in the NBA, there's no excuse.

535
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 3: To not be playing basketball. Zero.

536
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: Again, if you're if you're nursing an existing injury.

537
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 3: I get it, but load management for its own sake, no,

538
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 3: thank you.

539
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Speaker 5: We'll talk to the Pacers the other night. I will

540
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 5: go with Mark the I guess recent epidemical you're seeing,

541
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Speaker 5: particularly in college basketball, of the guys that have signed

542
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Speaker 5: professional contracts coming back to playing college basketball. I mean,

543
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Speaker 5: I could trust me when you list that list. I

544
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 5: was waiting for you to sell all the above, but

545
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Speaker 5: that would be the area i'd go in, particularly like

546
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Speaker 5: the Alabama situation with that big dude. You know, if

547
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Speaker 5: you have signed a professional contract, no, there's no way,

548
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 5: especially played in those games, there's no way you should

549
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 5: be going.

550
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Speaker 1: Back to college.

551
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 4: Just to be different. I'll go with officiating.

552
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Speaker 6: It always blows my mind that NFL officials, I believe,

553
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 6: are not full time employees, and so you pay for

554
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 6: what you get, and when you get certain things that

555
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 6: are happening in the league and certain calls that decide

556
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 6: seasons and stuff like that, that can be always a

557
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 6: cleaned up a little bit more. I'm always confused by

558
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 6: the NFL, like how much technology should you use? How

559
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 6: much of its human error. I'm not a big fan

560
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 6: of where things are headed. I know Roger Goodell says

561
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Speaker 6: something like, oh, you know, our fisers are great. I'm like, well,

562
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 6: you work for the NFL, brother, So I would say

563
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 6: the same thing if I was getting I think he's

564
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 6: getting what fifty million dollars a year to be the commissioner,

565
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Speaker 6: I will say the same thing as you.

566
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Speaker 4: I don't agree with.

567
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Speaker 1: You, though, Okay.

568
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 7: Hall of Fame announcements should be tonight's at some point

569
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Speaker 7: in the NFL Honors program. We mentioned it a little

570
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 7: bit earlier this week.

571
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Speaker 3: But I want to get a vibe in the room.

572
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Speaker 7: Would you rather have the Hall of Fame vote live

573
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 7: broadcast or the NBA Lottery.

574
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Speaker 3: Oh and we can watch the voting as it happens.

575
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 7: You can watch the voting, you can hear the survivor

576
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 7: style why this guy should be in, why they shouldn't

577
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 7: be in here you get the full broadcast of that,

578
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 7: or you get to go behind the curtain and get

579
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 7: the NBA lottery because they never show the lottery balls.

580
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Speaker 3: They kick all the media out.

581
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Speaker 7: So would you like to get a peek behind the

582
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Speaker 7: curtain and see how legit this whole thing is.

583
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Speaker 5: I'll go ahead, be a lottery. The Hall of Fame

584
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 5: calls like nine hours long. Yeah, can you imagine watching

585
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 5: anything for nine hours?

586
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 3: It's called c span.

587
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 7: I would say some people watch the whole Godfather series

588
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 7: of The Lord of the Rings all back to back

589
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 7: to backs.

590
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Speaker 5: You can you knew nine hours easy? The Titanic was

591
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 5: just yeh, nine hours.

592
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Speaker 4: I'll probably go with the ping pong balls.

593
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Speaker 11: I know.

594
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 4: I want to say Scott Agnix.

595
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 6: Actually, a few years ago I had a chance to

596
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 6: go in the room and actually watch take your phone

597
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 6: and sing things like that, So I would actually love

598
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Speaker 6: to hear it's respective on that later in the show.

599
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 6: So I'll roll with that one because I think a

600
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 6: lot of people have conspiracy theories about how it goes,

601
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 6: but I just don't believe in that stuff.

602
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 7: But I was an envelope from Patrick Ewing and all that.

603
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: Stuff, right, Yeah, I think I think here's what we've got.

604
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: If you can give me a reality TV producer that

605
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 2: can edit down that nine hour meeting into like forty

606
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 2: five minutes to an hour, and then when they announce

607
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: who's getting into the Hall of Fame, Survivor style, everybody

608
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: has to write down their ballot and put it and

609
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: fold it up and put it in like a a

610
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 2: container and just like Jeff Probes one by one counting votes,

611
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: count votes.

612
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 3: That I'd watch.

613
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Speaker 7: I would like to just hear like the arguments why,

614
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 7: like guys like Bill Belichicker and stuff aren't getting in.

615
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 7: So I'd like to see that because been the people

616
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 7: have to put their their names on it. You're getting

617
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 7: the word, You're hearing their side. It's like, oh, maybe

618
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 7: I didn't think about that, so I'd be interested by that.

619
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 7: But yeah, I could just see Jeff Propes telling Bill Belichick.

620
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Speaker 5: He's not being in the Hall of Fame.

621
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Speaker 3: Bring bring your torch over. He extinguishes Bill Belichick's torch.

622
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 7: Mon, Jordan, I'm going to cabo all right, teams that

623
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 7: can go worse to first in twenty twenty six in

624
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 7: the NFL.

625
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a list of teams.

626
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 7: You tell me which team you have the most confidence

627
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 7: going from worst to first, the Jets, the Browns, the Titans,

628
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 7: the Giants, the Saints, or the Cardinals. I'm leaving the

629
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 7: NFC North out of it because all those teams are

630
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 7: pretty close above hive hundred. So what are you pick

631
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 7: from those other teams?

632
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 5: I would have to roll with the Giants, Man, I

633
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 5: wanted a puke, to be honest with you, Yeah, those

634
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 5: are some bad choices, but probably the Giants because you

635
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 5: got something in Jackson Darr.

636
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 6: Just tell them that it's the NFL and we don't

637
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 6: want to what do you say last year? Watch my

638
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 6: high school tape. You know it's how I've always played

639
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,239
Speaker 6: my entire life. We'll change that because if you keep

640
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 6: running around, you're not gonna last very long in the NFL.

641
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 4: But he's a pretty good player.

642
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 6: Cam Scattabhu before the ankle injury, was showing some promise

643
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 6: and you get Leak Neighbors back, and of course John

644
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 6: Harbaugh was there as well.

645
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 5: So I'll say says because it's the worst division, and

646
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 5: I feel like the NFC souths just flip a coin there, Patriots,

647
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 5: I believe it'd be the third team since realignment in

648
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 5: two thousand and two to go from last in their

649
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 5: division to then win a Super Bowl. I believe you

650
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 5: had the Eagles. I think the Nick Foles Eagles and

651
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 5: then Colts fans don't want to remember that one, but

652
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 5: the Saints back in nine. So I'll go there, Mark.

653
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the NFC South as well we

654
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: see it seems to be that's the division where typically

655
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: we see worst of first.

656
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, New Orleans won.

657
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: Four of their last five game, James, they might have

658
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: found themselves a little bit of a starting quarterback.

659
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 7: Though, might have something shaken there all right, Last, but

660
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 7: not least, what are we watching?

661
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: Wife?

662
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 7: And I watched Weapons on HBO Max over the weekend.

663
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 4: That was excellent.

664
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Speaker 7: And then one that's on the que list of something

665
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Speaker 7: I need to watch, The Rise of the forty nine

666
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Speaker 7: Ers documentary on AMC goes through the eighties and nineties

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Speaker 7: Dynasty of the forty nine ers, So I'm looking very

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Speaker 7: much to watching that.

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Speaker 6: Well, when I was sick last week, I binge watched

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Speaker 6: Watchman on HBO, the television series, not the movie, very

671
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Speaker 6: crazy series. Honestly, I thought it was very good and

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Speaker 6: a little weird to watch it in today's climb and

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Speaker 6: I'll just leave it at that. And then what I've

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Speaker 6: recently watched and I'll probably stop watching is Industry on HBO.

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Speaker 4: The show. It's an insane show.

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Speaker 6: It's not appropriate for anybody that is of the younger crowd,

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Speaker 6: and even for the older crowd. It's just a lot

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Speaker 6: going on, and yeah, I made it through the first season,

679
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Speaker 6: and I think that I'm tapping out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I told you guys to say. I watched The

681
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Speaker 5: Boys of eighty, the Netflix documentary on the nineteen eighty

682
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Speaker 5: US hockey team, the other night. Really really well done,

683
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Speaker 5: certainly much more of a player driven documentary for those

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Speaker 5: that are still with us, and really a big focus

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Speaker 5: on Herb Brooks, which I really enjoyed that aspect of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I thought it was a tremendous, tremendous watch. I felt

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Speaker 5: it felt different than Miracle, which I was kind of

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Speaker 5: curious walking in. He's it's just going to feel like

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Speaker 5: the movie, and I thought it felt different.

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Speaker 2: I went back and watched like the last three episodes

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Speaker 2: over the weekend of Severance from season two because.

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Speaker 3: I'd kind of forgotten some of it.

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Speaker 2: Put that back together, and then in my next queue,

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Speaker 2: see this thing marked with Claire Danes the beast in me.

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Speaker 3: My mom has said it's excellent.

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Speaker 2: I've heard really good things about that. That's what I'm

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Speaker 2: going to be watching next. Although Kevin may have talked

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Speaker 2: me into the Miracle on Ice documentary.

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Speaker 1: Well, there you go.

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Speaker 4: That's all I I got, folks, great questions. As always, Mark,

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Speaker 4: Mark Dykon get the best answers of the bunch.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk more NBA trade deadline, specifically with the pacer.

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Speaker 2: Scott Agnes covers the team for the field House Files.

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Speaker 3: Good front of the station.

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Speaker 2: He'll be on next at ninety three five and Fan Olympics.

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Speaker 2: You are underway in Italy and the United States in

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Speaker 2: mixed doubles so far lead they've defeated Norway eight to

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Speaker 2: six and now they trail Switzerland two to one in

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Speaker 2: mixed doubles, James, so we're off an underway there mixed doubles,

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Speaker 2: what curling?

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Speaker 3: Curling? I'm talking about curly sh My.

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Speaker 6: Boy is Zach Kiefer over there getting it down for

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Speaker 6: our Olympic coverage at the Athletic.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, we've got trade deadline here in the

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Speaker 2: United States and the NBA on the diket docket today.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say the dyketon docket, but three

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Speaker 2: o'clock this afternoon, Slipper and Mark has called up Scott Agnes,

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Speaker 2: our friend from the field House Files. Tell us more

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Speaker 2: about that. He joined us on the Payless Liquors hotline.

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Speaker 2: You're ready for some Winter Olympics alongside all of your

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Speaker 2: trade watching today.

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Speaker 1: Good morning guys.

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Speaker 10: I will a little bit, but I'm just I just

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Speaker 10: don't get in the Winter Olympics much. I am huge

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Speaker 10: in the summer, but winter just doesn't do it much

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Speaker 10: for me.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, there's at least a little more pressing

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Speaker 6: issues for your day to day job here on a

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Speaker 6: day like today, Scott.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, we look at the Pacers and.

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Speaker 6: We know the big name is Benedig Matherin. But one

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Speaker 6: of the things Kevin through out there just before you

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Speaker 6: came on is the idea of possibly doing something else.

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Speaker 6: So aside from Benedig Matheren, do you see the pacers

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Speaker 6: or could you see a world where they still make

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Speaker 6: a move that doesn't involve the what is it third

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Speaker 6: or fourth year guard?

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Speaker 10: At this point, I could mostly because what we've seen

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Speaker 10: in the past with this front office in terms of

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Speaker 10: utilizing excess cap space, and they have about five and

741
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Speaker 10: a half million under the cap and so all along,

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Speaker 10: I think the most likely move was for them.

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Speaker 1: To utilize that.

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Speaker 10: We saw Tony at least ten day contract expire here

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Speaker 10: recently and then notably not fill it. So they've left

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Speaker 10: that open versus a couple of years ago. I think

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Speaker 10: it was where they did have that and they ultimately

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Speaker 10: had to wave James Johnson make a move, then sign

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Speaker 10: James Johnson back and things like that. So that is

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Speaker 10: always a possibility and something they like to get into

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Speaker 10: to pick up additional second round picks other assets that

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Speaker 10: later can add some flexibility, like they traded up and

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Speaker 10: getting to Cam Jones last year and it took some

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Speaker 10: cash and it took a future second round pick. So

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Speaker 10: I think that's always in the cards. Outside of that,

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Speaker 10: I don't think any other players have been significantly talked about.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Scott, let's get into a little bit of the

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Speaker 5: reporting last night and Scott agnesfield House files you can

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Speaker 5: find his work. I believe Jake Fisher, NBA reporter had

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Speaker 5: mentioned the name of Aviza Zubots from the Clippers big man,

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Speaker 5: who you know, has been a very productive double double

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Speaker 5: guy here in recent years, known to be a pretty

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Speaker 5: good defender, not maybe an elite shot blocker, certainly not

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Speaker 5: one to stretch the floor, but that name with the

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Speaker 5: Pacers now, in all likelihood it would take some notable

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Speaker 5: draft capital alongside probably Benedict Mazarin. What would you make

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Speaker 5: of that type of player and the fit here in Indiana.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so just surveying the league and scene, like what's

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Speaker 10: possible and what's out there. To me, the most interesting

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Speaker 10: thing is I keep coming back to Miles Turner and

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Speaker 10: just how it was such a good fit, right, just

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Speaker 10: the way in which you played in this mostly that

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Speaker 10: the style of play, defense, rent protection, and so to

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Speaker 10: me it looks like there are only imperfect options kind

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Speaker 10: of out there.

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Speaker 1: You could check three of the boxes, but not four.

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Speaker 1: And in Zuboc's case.

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Speaker 10: You would add rebounding, which you've never really had, and

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Speaker 10: you'd add some physicality, you add some toughness. I like

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Speaker 10: the fact that he has two more years under contract

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Speaker 10: after this year, and so you what that means is

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Speaker 10: you know exactly what it's going to cost them, and

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Speaker 10: that's things front offices love. They like to be able

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Speaker 10: to project and know exactly what lies in front of them.

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Speaker 10: And his contract is below starter center money at just

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Speaker 10: twenty million per year. I kind of put it about

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Speaker 10: twenty five million per year for a starter So you

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Speaker 10: really like that. To the detriment there is he's a guy,

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Speaker 10: like you said, KB, that's not going to stretch the floor.

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Speaker 10: He's not going to take three pointers, but he's more

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Speaker 10: right under the basket, rebound double double, and add that

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Speaker 10: physicality that they've always kind of lacked here in recent years.

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Speaker 5: One more on kind of the deadline front and listener

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Speaker 5: John sent this in. Is there any thought, Scott, you

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Speaker 5: think with bennedic Matherin specifically, of you get to the summer,

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Speaker 5: you can still as a research a free agent, sign

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Speaker 5: and trade him. But at that point you'll know where

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Speaker 5: your pick actually is because if you're drafted in three

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Speaker 5: overall versus nine overall, I mean, that's a big, big difference.

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Speaker 5: And again there's a lot of unknown with how the

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Speaker 5: lottery odds work, and we'll find out on Mother's Day

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Speaker 5: exactly what the lottery order is for this upcoming draft.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, no, that that absolutely plays the factor because within

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Speaker 10: the top three, I think right now we have a

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Speaker 10: very good idea of how that would would project out

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Speaker 10: and the type of player that you'd be able to get.

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Speaker 10: And the other thing I keep emphasizing here is the

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Speaker 10: type of ready made player you're getting, because again, you

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Speaker 10: don't have four or five years with this current group

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Speaker 10: to wait around and see what this said player could

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Speaker 10: look like.

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Speaker 1: The challenge with Matherin in his future.

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Speaker 10: It comes simply comes down to the cost and what

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Speaker 10: they're willing to pay him. I think is the number

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Speaker 10: one thing in all this is they just don't have

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Speaker 10: all that money to go around and all those all

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Speaker 10: those teammates basically have gotten paid over the last couple

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Speaker 10: of years, and now it's his turn. And then also

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Speaker 10: comes that fits factor with them all that so it

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Speaker 10: is not a lost cause. You're right if the Pacers

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Speaker 10: decide he's not part of the future equation, but they

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Speaker 10: want to extract some kind of value from their former

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Speaker 10: lottery pick.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there are other ways that they can get.

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Speaker 10: A potential deal done and utilizes as restricted free agency

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Speaker 10: to their advantage.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's it's not so simple as as a

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Speaker 1: deal right now would be.

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Speaker 2: Though, I will say, what do you think the chances

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Speaker 2: are that Indiana's name is tagged next to something before

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Speaker 2: three o'clock today.

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Speaker 10: M that's always a dangerous game to get into, but

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Speaker 10: I would I would think maybe thirty three percent is probably.

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Speaker 1: Where I'm putting it at. They a lot of what I.

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Speaker 10: Feel like they do is is sit around, wait, see

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Speaker 10: make it known what they're willing to do, and then

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Speaker 10: a lot of times other teams want to call around

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Speaker 10: and and see if they can get other deals done,

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Speaker 10: and if deal one fails, maybe not even with the

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Speaker 10: same type of player or situation, and then that's another

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Speaker 10: way they can come in and slide in there.

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Speaker 1: The Clippers are an.

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Speaker 10: Interesting situation to go back to Zubats like Kevin brought up,

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Speaker 10: just because of right, they have so many things going

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Speaker 10: on right there, everything from the aspiration allegations to Kawhi

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Speaker 10: Leonard to hosting All Star Weekend coming up to.

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Speaker 1: James Harding wanting out and being moved on there.

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Speaker 10: That's a that's a situation in a team right now

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Speaker 10: that I'm not sure anybody has a firm handle of

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Speaker 10: what they're trying to do.

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Speaker 1: But they are the oldest team in the league.

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Speaker 10: They were spending a lot and a lot of money

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Speaker 10: for not winning, and so it would make sense for

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Speaker 10: them to move on, and I think that would be

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Speaker 10: a player that would be reasonable for the Pacers to get.

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Speaker 10: What I don't want to see them do, Jeff and

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Speaker 10: all this is go out and trade for a center.

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Speaker 10: That's just it doesn't move the needle that you know,

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Speaker 10: is not the firm solution at center. To me, I'm

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Speaker 10: looking for a solution for the next three years. Uh

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Speaker 10: if I do a deal.

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Speaker 6: One more on the trade front, Scott, what's the setup

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Speaker 6: for today?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 6: Do you get to leave where you live? Do you

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Speaker 6: get to shower? Does the phone just go with you

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Speaker 6: wherever you go? I mean, give us the setup as

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Speaker 6: a reporter on NBA Trade dadline day.

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Speaker 4: What does it look like?

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Speaker 6: And you know how tethered are you to all electronics?

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Speaker 1: Well, let's be real, I'm kind of always tethered.

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Speaker 4: To the Day's true. The screen time, I never look

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Speaker 4: at it.

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Speaker 8: Scott, It's always within two steps if I need it.

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Speaker 8: We're being honest there, But yeah, no, I'll just go

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Speaker 8: down to my office here at my home and have

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Speaker 8: my different screens up and try to see if people

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Speaker 8: are willing to answer the phone caller text, which as

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Speaker 8: you know, is very difficult boy, right about right about now,

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Speaker 8: and try to create the picture that I'm hearing and

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Speaker 8: seeing versus what others are getting. And then you factor

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Speaker 8: all that in heading into the trade deadline. I'm joining

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Speaker 8: your athletics show that's.

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Speaker 10: Going on throughout the process, and this great show as well,

885
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Speaker 10: and just looking forward to it all being over and

886
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Speaker 10: seeing what it shapes up to be, which generally is

887
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 10: not that loud and voisterous for the Pacers from what

888
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 10: they do. A couple of times it has been, but

889
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Speaker 10: most of the time it usually deals along the fringes

890
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Speaker 10: to help them with future assets.

891
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Speaker 6: Well, a couple of years ago, Scott, we saw the

892
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Speaker 6: big trade for Pascal Siakam, and now he was an

893
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Speaker 6: All Star again this year. What do you remember about

894
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Speaker 6: that trade in particular, and maybe how it made you feel,

895
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Speaker 6: just knowing that the Pacers were saying before they made

896
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Speaker 6: us to the finals that they were going to go

897
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Speaker 6: for it, and I think that was a very interesting

898
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Speaker 6: point in the history of the franchise.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I will say with Pascal that was not a

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00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 10: surprise whatsoever. That was a move and a player James

901
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Speaker 10: and I I knew they had been after since at least.

902
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: Summer League that previous year.

903
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 10: I remember writing up in my hotel room at Summer League,

904
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Speaker 10: how this is not just noise, this is not just

905
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 10: out there. They really liked Pascal and would like to

906
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Speaker 10: acquire him. It just took until January of the next year.

907
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 10: But yeah, when they could go out and get a

908
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Speaker 10: player of that caliber that goes along exactly what this

909
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Speaker 10: franchise is able to do. And Pascal was clearly at

910
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Speaker 10: his expiration date with Toronto right unhappy with the situation, had.

911
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: Not felt valued.

912
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 10: Pacers are a team that like to go in find

913
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Speaker 10: value where others don't, place value on players when they

914
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Speaker 10: don't feel it, and then hope the player and trust

915
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Speaker 10: that the player takes off. And Pascal has been a

916
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Speaker 10: home run higher for this franchise, no doubt.

917
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Speaker 5: Scott last one from me and against Scott Agnes. You

918
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Speaker 5: find his work at Fieldhouse Files. This was such a

919
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 5: talk last offseason about the Pacers and Miles Turner and

920
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 5: dipping their toes into the luxury tax. Is that any

921
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 5: a part of the Matherin equation this time around? I mean,

922
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Speaker 5: not that Matherin's gonna net whatever it was that the

923
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Speaker 5: Turner got annually, But you know, there is probably a

924
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Speaker 5: decent chance at some point here with Halliburton returning, you

925
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Speaker 5: might be more willing to get into that luxury tax.

926
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Speaker 5: So I know they're about five or six million. I

927
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Speaker 5: think is still underneath it is that part of the

928
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Speaker 5: Matherin equation You think at all that would cause the

929
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Speaker 5: Pacers to have any hesitancy in resigning him.

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Speaker 10: I think that absolutely plays a factor and is a

931
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Speaker 10: discussion point with all this, because here's another thing to

932
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Speaker 10: keep in mind.

933
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Speaker 1: Assuming they keep their pick and for right now, why

934
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Speaker 1: wouldn't they going into next year?

935
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Speaker 10: Right it's probably a top four pick, is what you'd

936
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Speaker 10: be looking at. The other thing you can't overlook is

937
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 10: right away you've got to slot in that money.

938
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Speaker 1: And Cooper flag this year. I was amazed.

939
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Speaker 10: I forgot the numbers have gone up this significantly for

940
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Speaker 10: a first overall pick, and and then it goes down

941
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 10: after that. But he's getting fourteen million this year. So

942
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Speaker 10: so lend fourteen million slot for whoever their draft pick

943
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Speaker 10: is this year. It may not be that high based

944
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Speaker 10: on depending on what number it is. Well, there's a

945
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Speaker 10: good money slot. And then if you throw, if you

946
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Speaker 10: want a working model of what it's going to cost

947
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Speaker 10: for Matherin, it's probably eighteen to twenty five million. If

948
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Speaker 10: I'm Benedict, that's probably what I'm looking for within that window,

949
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Speaker 10: based on what others have gotten.

950
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Speaker 1: In what I believe I deserve there.

951
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Speaker 10: And so yeah, I think whether it's two million into

952
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 10: the luxury tax or twenty million. That is something the

953
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Speaker 10: Pacers have to be prepared for and have to be

954
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Speaker 10: willing to do. My belief is if they are able

955
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Speaker 10: to if they have a championship team, which they believe

956
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Speaker 10: they will with Haliburton coming back, they have to be

957
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Speaker 10: willing to go into the tax. But for this year,

958
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Speaker 10: like they are, it is smart not to be in

959
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 10: it because then you're not paying a repeater tax. But yeah,

960
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 10: I think it would be foolish not for that to

961
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 10: enter the equation with Matherin whether he's a part of

962
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Speaker 10: it and how much it would cost.

963
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Speaker 2: Scott as always have fun today. I know this is

964
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Speaker 2: a big day for you. We'll see if anything happens

965
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Speaker 2: that changes the landscape of the NBA today.

966
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Speaker 1: You never know.

967
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Speaker 10: There's always a couple of trades even elsewhere, especially that

968
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Speaker 10: are hiding in the weeds that end up happening right

969
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Speaker 10: at the deadline, and so we'll see what those ultimately become.

970
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Speaker 2: We are always interested in helping our listeners out financially.

971
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Speaker 2: Mark Dykin's always got an edge on that. Jason Hammer

972
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Speaker 2: will come over. Our next guest is going to get

973
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Speaker 2: you ready to go for the super Bowl in all

974
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Speaker 2: the ways, creatively and otherwise you can make a little

975
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Speaker 2: cash this weekend. Joe Osborne joins us now on the

976
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Speaker 2: pay Less Liquors hotline.

977
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Speaker 3: He works at covers dot com.

978
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Speaker 2: And I'm sure, Joe, this is like heaven for you guys, right,

979
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Speaker 2: the week of the Super Bowl doesn't get any bigger

980
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Speaker 2: than that.

981
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Speaker 12: Yeah, we only have about what probably five thousand different

982
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 12: things we can bet on here for the big games,

983
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 12: So yeah, this is It is the super Bowl of

984
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 12: the NFL, and it's the super Bowl of the betting

985
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 12: world as well, So it should be a lot of

986
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 12: fun here once we get to the game on Sunday.

987
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 5: Joe, let's ease into it.

988
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 3: Let's start simple.

989
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 5: Whether it's the game line, whether it's the over under,

990
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 5: whether it's like kind of a basic maybe quarterback prop,

991
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 5: anything really jump off the page at you.

992
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 12: Well, I like the total more than the side, but

993
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 12: I'll discuss the side really quickly. So a big theme

994
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 12: of the game is the easy path that the Patriots

995
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 12: have had, and I do think it is fair to

996
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 12: question the Patriots' ability to be competitive on this stage

997
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 12: versus the truly elite team because they haven't been tested

998
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 12: against a lot of elite competition this season. Guys, they

999
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 12: played three other playoff teams during the regular season, the Steelers,

1000
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 12: the Panthers, and the Bills. Out of those three teams,

1001
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 12: you would only take the Bill serious. Now look at

1002
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 12: their path to the Super Bowl. Dome quarterback playing in

1003
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 12: winter conditions than justin Herbert Dome quarterback and CJ. Stride

1004
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 12: playing in winter conditions in New England. Then they barely

1005
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 12: snuck by Jared Stidham. I think Seattle has more depth

1006
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 12: on both sides of the ball, better at the skill

1007
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 12: positions on offense. Now that all said in terms of

1008
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 12: side are total, I absolutely love the over on this

1009
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 12: total of forty five and a half. A couple of

1010
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 12: big reasons the Seahawks offense is on fire. They've dropped

1011
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 12: seventy two points in their two playoff games so far,

1012
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 12: and they also had a couple of high scoring up

1013
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 12: puts them the stretch run of the regular season. As

1014
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 12: for the Patriots, you might look at their games in

1015
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 12: the playoffs and think, geez, they played in a lot

1016
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 12: of low scoring games. Of course, they have guys, those

1017
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 12: Dome quarterbacks playing in frigid winner conditions in New England.

1018
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 12: Then of course they go to Denver to take on

1019
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 12: Jared stidham snowstorm in the second half of that game.

1020
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 12: I think this could be a good opportunity for Drake

1021
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 12: May to come back to life here. You know, I

1022
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 12: think those winner conditions really impacted his ability to move

1023
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 12: the football. Could look like an MVP.

1024
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: So here's the thing.

1025
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 12: Seattle's defense, Yes, they are really good, and everybody including myself,

1026
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 12: will criticize the Patriots easy lofe all competition. Look at

1027
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 12: some of the quarterbacks this Seattle defense has faced down

1028
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 12: the stretch of the regular season, Bryce Young, Philip Rivers,

1029
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 12: Kirk Cousins, Max Brasmer, cam Ward Jacoby Brissett, so of

1030
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 12: course are going to look fantastic defensively. When they faced

1031
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 12: a really good offense in the Rams, they easily went

1032
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 12: up and down the field on them. So I think

1033
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 12: the Patriots will be able to contribute to the scoring

1034
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 12: at least get the twenty points, and this one Seattle

1035
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 12: will get theirs too. So I love the over forty

1036
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 12: five and a half Joe.

1037
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 6: When we look at individual bets in this game, are

1038
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 6: there any lines, for example, like catch us for Jackson

1039
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 6: Smith and jigbaw that intrigues you about this matchup?

1040
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think my favorite prop is Kenneth Walker to

1041
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 12: go over his receiving yard tolls down the twenty and

1042
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 12: a half receiving yards and he's been on fire in

1043
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 12: this department for a running back. He's top this American

1044
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 12: four of his last five games where he's averaging thirty

1045
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 12: six point eight receiving yards. I think he's going to

1046
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 12: have a heavy workload. No Zach Sherbinet, who had a

1047
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 12: lot of touches for Seattle during the regular season, and

1048
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 12: this is a great matchup. The Patriots have a loted

1049
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 12: these six most receptions to the running back position this season.

1050
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 12: He's going to be on the field a lot. He's

1051
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 12: going to have his fingerprints.

1052
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:18,479
Speaker 1: All over the ball.

1053
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 12: So I love him to go over twenty and a

1054
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 12: half receiving yards.

1055
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,479
Speaker 2: Joel, I'm always looking for value, right, We're always looking

1056
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 2: for value anytime touchdown scores? Am I crazy to think

1057
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 2: that like Hudter Henry at plus two forty or Rashid

1058
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: Shaheed at plus three fifty might be sneaky plays there?

1059
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1060
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 12: I mean Shah he's a popular one. People are pinpointing

1061
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 12: him as maybe like a Derek Horse MVP candidate, just

1062
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 12: because of his ability to have an impact in special teams,

1063
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 12: or maybe go off for a long one. I would

1064
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 12: take a look at a guy who scored a touchdown

1065
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 12: in the Seahawks' most recent game against the Rams.

1066
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 1: Jake Bobo.

1067
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 12: A lot of people probably didn't even know who he was.

1068
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 12: His receiving yard total, guys, is half a hour at

1069
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 12: plus one eighty odds to go over that one. Now

1070
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 12: his catches. No one's going to look at his game

1071
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 12: logs and be overly impressed by what he's done throughout

1072
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 12: the season. But like I said, Zach Charbinet average around

1073
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 12: thirteen touches per a game during the regular season. A

1074
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 12: lot of balls to go around there. So Bobo might

1075
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 12: be a guy to consider if you're looking at a

1076
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 12: long shot.

1077
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 5: All right, Joe Joe Osborne covers dot Com. I liked

1078
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 5: and I know it sounds crazy. The first penalty of

1079
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 5: the game. I feel like we now call legal formation

1080
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 5: all the time. Yeah, you get a little juice of

1081
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 5: that plus twelve hundred. Let's go obscure. What do you

1082
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 5: like off the board? Not of anything of the generic

1083
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 5: for our true degenerates out there. What do you like, Yes,

1084
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 5: let's go.

1085
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 12: Let's have a little bit of fun, guys, and take

1086
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 12: the color of the first Gatorade port on the winning

1087
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 12: coach to be water slash clear. Now, this is considered

1088
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 12: a long longer shot in this market eleven to one odds,

1089
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 12: and my logic is pretty simple here, guys.

1090
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: I think it's.

1091
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 12: Almost guaranteed that there's going to be water on the sidelines.

1092
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 12: Can you say that about every other color or gatorade?

1093
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 12: I don't think that's the case now.

1094
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 3: I think it's due.

1095
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 12: It hasn't hit since Super Bowl forty two between the

1096
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 12: Patriots and the Giants. Since they started keeping track, though,

1097
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 12: it has hit on four different occasions, so I think

1098
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 12: that could be worth a little bit of a sprinkle there.

1099
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 12: If you're looking for a fun long shot that what.

1100
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 3: About national anthem? Straight up? Two minutes for Charlie Booth?

1101
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 12: Oh jeez, that isn't one that I really dig into.

1102
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 12: That is one though, that the line does move on

1103
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 12: quite a bit, Like it's got two minutes right now.

1104
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 12: You said, that's going to be a completely different number

1105
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 12: by the time you get to the game. So if

1106
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 12: you do have a strong feeling on that one way

1107
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 12: or the other. I would recommend getting your wager in

1108
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 12: on that. You see staff like I remember a couple

1109
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 12: of years ago, someone was outside the stadium when there

1110
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 12: was a rehearsal done and they recorded it and shared

1111
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 12: the number with all the betters out there and had

1112
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 12: a pretty big impact on the final line for that one.

1113
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: Any odds on whether or not Jannison Tetakoupa gets moved.

1114
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 11: Today, that's there's nothing up for that in terms of

1115
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 11: if he actually does get moved, that's a tough spot,

1116
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 11: especially with.

1117
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 12: Him being injured right now. That's something that I'm a

1118
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 12: big Yannis fan, but I don't think he's the same

1119
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 12: guy who won MVP five years ago.

1120
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 10: Now.

1121
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 12: It all depends on what you would have to give

1122
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 12: up to get him. Do you want to give up

1123
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 12: your draft for the next five or six years. A

1124
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 12: lot of people would sign up for that. But do

1125
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 12: you know how many wins the Bucks have in the

1126
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 12: playoffs with Yannis in the lineup over the last three years.

1127
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 12: Guys one these big guys who are injury prone, they

1128
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 12: typically don't get healthier with age. So I love Yannis.

1129
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 12: If he's healthy, He's absolutely one of the best players

1130
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 12: in the league. But he's already yes, what, fifteen sixteen

1131
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 12: seventeen games this season, so I think the Bucks really

1132
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 12: mistimed it. I think Gianna should have been more aggressive

1133
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 12: with asking for a trade. I think he was trying

1134
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 12: to tiptoe around it and be a nice guy. You

1135
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 12: bet it too much, and I think it's backfires.

1136
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 3: All right, Buddy Joe, it's always good to talk to you.

1137
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 3: Thanks so much. Good luck this weekend.

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00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 1: Awesome.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I appreciate you guys having me on. Best of

1140
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 12: luck to you, and best of luck to all your

1141
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 12: great listeners as well.

1142
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1149
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Speaker 12: All right, buddy, thank you, awesome, Thank you guys.