1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:00,720 Speaker 1: Got news. 2 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:01,559 Speaker 2: What's that? 3 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. 4 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 3: It's a good news is bad news? Governments still shut down? 5 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: It is. We're on day twenty three. 6 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 4: President Trump told Democrats that he's not going to meet 7 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 4: with them until the government reopens. He said, yeah, let 8 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 4: the country open first again, we'll get together. 9 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 3: This is day twenty four, twenty three, twenty three, tomorrow's 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 3: twenty fourth, right, right, yeah, twenty fourth. 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 12 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 3: So we're on day twenty three and we're no closer 13 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: to a resolution on this. And if I were, I 14 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: think they're handling it the right way. I mean, look again, 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 3: this is not about any sort of spending reform or 16 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 3: change to government or making your life any better. We're 17 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: talking about the Republicans, for all their huffing and puffing, 18 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: just basically approved Biden's budget again and the Democrats said no. 19 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: And so if I were the. 20 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 3: Republicans, I would people trying to act like the Democrats 21 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: have some sort of leverage in this. If I were 22 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: the Republicans, I would just be like, well, you know, 23 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: we kind of wanted to Obamacare to go away anyway, 24 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: so we don't care about the subsidies, so goodbye, good day. 25 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 4: The Democrats feel like they do have some leverage, especially 26 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 4: if you listen to the Democratic whip of the US 27 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 4: House of Representatives. Keep in mind, this is the number 28 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 4: two person in the House representing the Democrats, and she 29 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 4: is saying, yeah, this is their leverage. 30 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 6: I mean, shutdowns are terrible and of course there will 31 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 6: be you know, families that are going to suffer. We 32 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 6: take that responsibility very seriously. But it is one of 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 6: the few leverage times we have. 34 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: I mean, they've admitted it numerous times. This is like 35 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: the thing about the whole shutdown that is so like ridiculous, 36 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: which is they freely now admit they're so unafraid of 37 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: voters basically, and it's an indictment on us as a society. 38 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: They're so unafraid on both sides. The politicians are so 39 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: unafraid of voters that they just admit what they're doing. 40 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: They used to lie about it. 41 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: Right now they're like, yeah, if we do this, then 42 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: we won't get this thing we want. So we admit 43 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: and we acknowledge people are gonna get hurt, but we 44 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: don't care. 45 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: It's gross though, that they're using people and leverage. 46 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: And then as soon as the government gets reopened after 47 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: now admitting that they don't care whether people hurt, and 48 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: acknowledging how little government we actually need. They'll go right 49 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 3: back to any cut to government would be some crime 50 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: against humanity. They will pivot right back to it. And 51 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, like I said, we 52 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: allow this to happen because we keep excusing this behavior, 53 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: we don't call it out, we don't challenge it, and 54 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: we keep electing the same people. 55 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 4: Okay, so you still have Social Security payments going out, 56 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 4: Medicare and Medicaid payments are continuing. You've got the postal 57 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 4: service still running. Now the big thing is the SNAP 58 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 4: and the Wick funds. They will continue until November, and 59 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 4: that's where some people are starting to get nervous. Several 60 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 4: states have warned that their recipients they could possibly not 61 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 4: get there SNAP. 62 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: Then, yeah, let's just say the quiet part out loud here, though, 63 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: there's millions of people who are on these benefits who 64 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: don't need to be right and they need to get 65 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: off of them and get to work. Now, there are 66 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 3: certainly some people in our society who are in need 67 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: of assistance from us as humanity, and that's okay. 68 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: You know disabled people, people. 69 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: You know who are trying to work, who are given 70 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 3: their skill set, not able to bridge the gap between 71 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: their working career and taking care of their children. Like 72 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: I think we all agree that we have a role 73 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: in society of helping those people. But it's a fraction 74 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: of the people that are actually on these programs and 75 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: they exist. This exists in this nature because we are 76 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: a society that for years has devalued work, We've devalued 77 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: personal responsibility. We let people know that if you want 78 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: to screw around and not hold up your obligation to 79 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: the rest of humanity, that will just give you a 80 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: free ride. And so now all of these people have 81 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: become a addicted to the freebies, and then we go, 82 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: what are these people going to do? 83 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: Go get a job. 84 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: The problem is many of these people have been so 85 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: out of the game for so long they don't actually 86 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: exactly they don't exactly they don't possess the skill set 87 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: to get a job that would allow them to. 88 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: Take care of themselves. 89 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 4: So a lot of videos yesterday if people complaining that 90 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 4: they were going to lose their Snap benefits and they 91 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: might have to sell their BMW or they're sitting there 92 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 4: in the video with their nails done, and the fake 93 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 4: eyelashes and the tattoos. All of those things cost a 94 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 4: lot of money, the iPhone right, everything. Yeah, but yet 95 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 4: they're complaining that they're going to lose their EBT cards. 96 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: Well, that's because we don't make people sink or swim. 97 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: We don't make people who can take care of themselves 98 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: do it. We don't make people who could could be 99 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 3: self sufficient make hard choices. And for some reason, we 100 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 3: again it comes back to us as a co active 101 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: us as a society. We have just accepted that this 102 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 3: goes on, and we are okay with pulling the freight 103 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 3: for these people. And I have no idea why, but 104 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: that's where we're at, and we're about to find out. See, 105 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: I'm kind of okay with this, and I hate that 106 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: there are going to be people who are going to 107 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: be harmed who do want to do right and are 108 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 3: trying to do right. 109 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: But get off the couch, go get a job. 110 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 3: There are millions of people in this country who can 111 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: do that, and now maybe it will force them to 112 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: enter the workforce. 113 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 4: Donald Trump confirming he's not even considering budging on Chuck 114 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 4: Schumer's one point five trillion dollar demand. 115 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 7: Well, I think it's a shame that has shut down 116 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 7: because we have the greatest economy. As you were saying before, 117 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 7: we have the greatest economy in the world right now 118 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 7: by far, the United States. We have almost eighteen now, 119 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 7: it was seventeen. Now it's eighteen trillion dollars being poured 120 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 7: into our country, and it's no time for shutdowns. I 121 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 7: don't think it's affecting what we're doing, but it's it's 122 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 7: too bad for a lot of people. We have a 123 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 7: lot of good people that are working right now that 124 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 7: should be and it's because the Democrats want to try 125 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 7: and renegotiate a deal that they had negotiated. They want 126 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 7: one point five trillion dollars given to illegal immigrants who 127 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 7: came into the country, and it's going to hurt the 128 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 7: healthcare of citizens of our country that have been paying 129 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 7: into it, that have been working hard for it, that 130 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 7: really deserve it. 131 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: So we're never going to do that. 132 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 2: It's not going to happen. 133 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: And I will tell. 134 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 7: You there are a lot of good Democrats that really 135 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 7: want to make a deal, and I think all we 136 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 7: need is five Democrats because we have a great support 137 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 7: on the Republican side. So I think we need five Democrats, 138 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 7: and there are a lot of them that want to 139 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 7: make a deal, so I think at some point, at 140 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 7: some point, common sense will prevail. 141 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: The hang on a second, The problem is illegals are 142 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: getting healthcare in this country, mister president. The problem is 143 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: that in your own big bullcrap bill, there was specific 144 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 3: language that would have barred that, and your Republican Party 145 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: removed that. 146 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: See. 147 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: I just have a hard time sitting there and letting 148 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: this guy lie. And then I said, well, what else 149 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 3: is he lying about it? And it's also totally out 150 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 3: of touch about the economy. In his rich friend world, 151 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: maybe it's going well, it is not going well for 152 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: main street. Regular people are getting crushed, and he seems 153 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: totally just like insulated from what's going on. And all 154 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 3: of these politicians are this way, but he's the one 155 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: out there. He's the president, he's making the statements, and 156 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: it's just like, I want to be behind the guy. 157 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: I want to support the guy because I think the border, 158 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: the foreign policy stuff I think is really good. But 159 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: I hear stuff like that and I go, sir, you're 160 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: just flat out lying. Illegals are getting healthcare in this country, 161 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: And sir, the economy is not great for a lot 162 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: of people. 163 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 4: Okay, Well he was talking about Democrats that could come over, 164 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: and that's possibly what will happen at the end of 165 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: the day, Chuck Schumer with a wink and a nod. 166 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I go do this so we can reopen the 167 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: government back up. 168 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: But here's John Fetterman and he is saying country over party. 169 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 8: Hi, here we are and our government remains closed. And 170 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 8: I think that's failure. And I'm the guy that's going 171 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 8: to consistently vote for a country over party. I'm always 172 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 8: going to vote for paying our military over the party. 173 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 8: I'm always going to vote for paying the Capitol police 174 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 8: over my party. And I'm going to continue to fight 175 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 8: for the two millions Pennsylvanians that depend on snaff to 176 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 8: feed themselves. And I'm also going to fight for the 177 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 8: same four hundred twenty Pennsylvanians that depend on those text 178 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 8: credits to make health insurance more affordable. Two things are true, 179 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 8: and now we can fight for all of them as 180 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 8: long as our government is open. My vote is going 181 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 8: to remain firmly on keeping our government open, and I'm 182 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 8: going to continue to fight for all of those Pennsylvanians 183 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 8: that I'm honored to represent here. 184 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 4: Okay, two million people on snap benefits in Pennsylvania. 185 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: Being go ye, and let's talk about what is at 186 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: the core what he's talking about. They're doing some victory 187 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: parade because all this guy does, all any of these 188 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 3: lawmakers do, all the state, federal, local, all they do. 189 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: You notice who never gets thanked the taxpayers. In all 190 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 3: these speeches and all these ribbon cuttings and all these 191 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: proclamations and all these groundbreakings. You know who never gets 192 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: thanked the taxpayers. You know, like there was this there 193 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 3: was this ribbon cutting yesterday for this HarperCollins facility in 194 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: Brownsburg that the governor showed up to check taha dah yes, 195 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 3: which they were so proud of it. They wouldn't tell 196 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: you what it was until after all the freebies had 197 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: been given away. And you know who I didn't hear 198 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: thanked yesterday the taxpayers who create the IEDC in my community, 199 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: the abatement they're beginning, which is a subsidy from the taxpayer. 200 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: It's never thank you to us. 201 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: And this guy who does nothing like any of the 202 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: rest of the lawmakers but take money from other people 203 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: and then give it to someone else. It acts like 204 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: he's fighting, like it's his money that he's giving away. No, 205 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: all you're doing is you take it from me, and 206 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: you decide who you're going to give it to. 207 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: And we're supposed to throw a parade for the guy. 208 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: Trump did sign an executive order that ensure that the 209 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: active duty military personnel are paid. That doesn't cover all 210 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: the federal workers that are required to work. We've got 211 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 4: Nicki Kelly, who's going to join us next. 212 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a whole bunch stuff to get you. 213 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: We got the latest on the redistricting. We've got the 214 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: No King's protest over the weekend. We got this IU 215 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 3: r C drama. A lot to get to with Niki Kelly. 216 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,359 Speaker 2: It's Kennel and Casey on ninety three WIBC. 217 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 5: I'm awareable for the Chinese menu in his hand, popping 218 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 5: through the streets of Soho in the rain. 219 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: Lots going on with Indiana politics and the government. 220 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: Let's get to the bottom of it. One of the 221 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: best in the business. 222 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: Nikki Kelly from the Indiana Capitalist Prodigal joins us. 223 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 4: Now. 224 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: Nikki Kelly, Hello, good morning. 225 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: All right, So we've spent a lot of time this 226 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: morning talking about redistricting and the big news yesterday as 227 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: the Senate the spokesperson comes out and says, they're. 228 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: Not the votes. I'm blown away by this. What have 229 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: you been hearing? What say you? 230 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 9: Yeah? It just seemed to come out of nowhere, given 231 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 9: that the Republican caucus has been very quiet. I think 232 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 9: intuitively we knew they didn't have the votes, because otherwise 233 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 9: it would have moved forward. And I think the reason 234 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 9: it was finally confirmed on the record is there were 235 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 9: these sort of named source rumors from Washington saying they 236 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 9: did have the votes, and so all of a sudden 237 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 9: yesterday it kind of exploded, and you're starting to see 238 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 9: people really line up publicly for or against, though we're 239 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 9: still waiting to hear from a lot of Republicans on 240 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 9: where they sit. 241 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: The reporting says an Adamant, who will join us next hour, 242 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: kind of let on this that Bray basically said, and 243 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 3: I'm not going this for brace said no, dice, and 244 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: then his sort of group went with him. Have you 245 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 3: heard anything different, because you're right, there hasn't been an 246 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: official taally taken. 247 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 9: Yeah. I mean what I've heard is that they simply 248 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 9: don't have the votes. That not that Bray is leading 249 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 9: the no votes, but that they simply don't have them. 250 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 9: We've only been able to confirm five yes votes on 251 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 9: the record. Now obviously there are probably some others, but 252 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 9: you know, they need twenty six. So unless a lot 253 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 9: of other people exist, they simply don't have them. And 254 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 9: now what we're seeing is the blame game, right is 255 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 9: who's responsible for not having them? 256 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what's very interesting is all these internet influencers 257 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 3: came out and started screaming, we're going to target this 258 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: person or that person, call these people. And my response 259 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: to that has been it's clear that people in these 260 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 3: people's districts either don't want it or are apathetic to it, 261 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: and that's all that's going to. 262 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: Change their mind. 263 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 9: I mean, certainly, I'm convinced that there are probably some 264 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 9: no votes who wouldn't be able to you know, there 265 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 9: is a difference between being no privately and be able 266 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 9: to stand up to the pressure that you're seeing online. 267 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 9: You know what could come in ads, what could come 268 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 9: in money against you in an opponent. So, you know, 269 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 9: if we make it to a special session, I think 270 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 9: they're going to be some of those no votes who 271 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 9: would end up switching to yes. But at least right 272 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 9: now they're no votes because they don't believe in it 273 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 9: and their districts don't like it or see the reason 274 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 9: behind it. 275 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 4: Hey, Nikki, yesterday when Governor Brown was on with Hammer 276 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 4: and Nigel, he said if he calls the special session, 277 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 4: it will force people to go on the record. Do 278 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 4: you think that they came out and said we don't 279 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 4: have the votes to do that. 280 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: Your thoughts on that. 281 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 9: I think they came out because again they people were 282 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 9: telling them that Washington d C. People were saying they 283 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 9: did have the votes, and so I think they were. 284 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 9: The reason that came out was because they were trying 285 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 9: to refute the words coming from quote d C Land 286 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 9: Trump Land. So I think that's the reason that came out. 287 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 3: Nikki Kelly from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle is our guest, 288 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: all right, if you were a betting person, because it's 289 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 3: like animal house, nothing's over until we decide it is. 290 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: Do you do you think this is it? 291 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: Or do you think we're going to see this thing 292 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: rear its ugly head again? And do you think Braun 293 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: will actually say this will shock you? Casey Braun might 294 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: not stay true to his word, and we'll just call 295 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: the special session even if there's quote unquote not the votes. 296 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, I've been saying for a while. I still think 297 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 9: there's going to be a special session. You know. At 298 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 9: this point though, Broun has to either call it or 299 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 9: or officially punched because they're running out of time and 300 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 9: we can't you know, have this sort of will they 301 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 9: won't they think for much longer. 302 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: All right, other news, you guys covered the no Kings 303 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: protest over the weekend linkedy right up over to Indiana 304 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 3: Capitol Chronicle. Look, a lot of people went, a lot 305 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: of people were there, But did it move the needle? 306 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 6: What? 307 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: What was your guys kind of takeaway from the weekend protests. 308 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 9: I mean, I've went up to Lebanon and we had 309 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 9: a reporter in Indie. I don't know if the purpose 310 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 9: of it is to move the needle. 311 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. 312 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 9: A lot of people just that I spoke to just 313 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 9: wanted to show their dissatisfaction with some of the things 314 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 9: that the Trump administration is doing, and that is their 315 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 9: way to, you know, feel like they're being heard or 316 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 9: having their voice out there, you know, So do I 317 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 9: think it'll change much. 318 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: No, But. 319 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 9: I know a lot of people I talked to you 320 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 9: felt good, even if it was because you know, they 321 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 9: were around other like minded people kind of thing. You know. 322 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: So the ones across the country and the ones in Indianapolis, 323 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: obviously they were very well attended. 324 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: Did you sense a theme. 325 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 3: From what you saw what you guys saw Indie, Danapolis 326 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: or Lebanon, Like, did they match up or was it 327 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: just sort of a hodgepodge of people, you know, complaining 328 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: about a variety of things. 329 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 9: I mean, there were a variety of issues that came up, 330 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 9: but the big ones were people concerned about how the 331 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 9: deportations are going and do process and you know, snatching 332 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 9: people off the streets. So to say that came up 333 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 9: a lot. There are a lot of concerns about healthcare. 334 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 9: There are a lot of concerns about quote, following the 335 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 9: law and the constitution. And they they see things, you know, 336 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 9: like for instance, Congressman Banks tweeting a picture of the 337 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 9: Trump twenty twenty eight hat, and people say, oh, of course, 338 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 9: we're following the constitution. But when opponents see that, when 339 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 9: the Constitution clearly says that Trump can't serve a third term. 340 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 9: That's what riles all this up, you know, And that's 341 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 9: an example of what things they were saying was follow 342 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 9: the constitution. 343 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, but don't you think that was intentional. That's just 344 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 4: a little bit of trolling. 345 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 9: Of course it's trolling. But then you can't say, oh, 346 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,239 Speaker 9: we're not doing anything, you know what I mean, If 347 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 9: you're trolling them and bringing it up, then that's obviously 348 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 9: going to make them upset. Another issue that comes up 349 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 9: repeatedly is calling out the census as being inappropriately done 350 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 9: in twenty twenty because it counted illegal aliens and obviously 351 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 9: when you look at the Constitution, it specifically says to 352 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 9: count all persons. So that's another example of what they 353 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 9: were saying, is, you know, we're not following the law 354 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 9: or the constitution. 355 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 3: Thanky Kelly, our guests when they need a Capitol chronicle. 356 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 3: A couple of minutes left with her. The other big thing, 357 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 3: and you guys sort of had the lead right up 358 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 3: on this, very well done in depth right up. The 359 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 3: IURC Nominating Committee narrows this down to twenty two members. 360 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: You know, we had obviously Jim Merritt's a big part 361 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 3: of this show, and we had him on yesterday, and 362 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: we kind of talked a lot about I think there's 363 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 3: some unreasonable expectations from people that whoever's going to get appointed, 364 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 3: that thing they're going to look at as will you 365 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 3: agree to not raise utility rates anymore? I think the 366 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 3: utility rates are going to keep going up no matter 367 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 3: what the governor says. 368 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 9: What say you you know, I'm sure that a lot 369 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 9: of the utilities are going to be able to, within 370 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 9: the framework of the law that's already set up, argue 371 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 9: for some increases. Now, whether those are going to be 372 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 9: smaller increases is you know, probably fair, But you know, 373 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 9: lawmakers are going to have to make some changes to 374 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 9: weigh these cost recovery mechanisms and things they put into 375 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 9: law or utilities to see dramatic change. Otherwise, certainly we'll 376 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 9: see think we'll see smaller increases or see people who 377 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 9: will be more questionable or questioning more of these increase requests. 378 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 3: You guys had in the and it's sort of you know, 379 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: it's near the top of the story, but I think 380 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: it's actually the big thing is you guys actually went 381 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,479 Speaker 3: to the website and said, okay, like what's the mission 382 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 3: statement or the charge of the IU our s, and 383 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: I thought it was great you put that in there. 384 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: It is quote neither an it is an advocate of 385 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 3: neither the public nor the utilities. And that line just 386 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: blew me away that it's like their job is not 387 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 3: to be on the side of the taxpayer, which is 388 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 3: very interesting. 389 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 9: I do like to put that line in there because 390 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 9: I think a lot of people think they're automatically on 391 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 9: the side of utilities, and then you know, people think 392 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 9: the OU see cee, which they are supposed to be 393 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 9: advocating for the rape pair. So I do like to 394 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 9: throw that in there because I think everyone would agree 395 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 9: that it's been tilted a bit in the last decade. 396 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 4: Hey, Nikki, rob and I made our bets on who 397 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 4: we picked who we think will be selected. 398 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: You want to get in on. 399 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 9: This, Well, who are your bets? 400 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 3: So I went with Alexander Jork on the Democrat side 401 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: because he's a solar guy, and I know several of 402 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 3: the people in the Braun administration are big, you know, 403 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: alternative energy people. And then I picked Christopher Baggett. He's 404 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 3: the cluster truck in exact tart good guy because he 405 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 3: gave I think he gave the most to Braun, so 406 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: I went with him. 407 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 408 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 4: I chose Andy Dja because I think he's been repeating 409 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 4: the energy message across the state of Indiana. And then 410 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 4: Philip Casey because he's got he's a solar attorney, so 411 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 4: he's got experience in that, plus his last name is Casey. 412 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 9: Yeah. I mean there are a lot of good, good possibilities. 413 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 9: They're going to do three days of interviews next day, 414 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 9: next week, and then the key is they're gonna send 415 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 9: over three recommendations for each spot, so nine finalists that 416 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 9: Brown will have to pick from. So it sounds like 417 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 9: he'll have plenty of choices. 418 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: All right. 419 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: Find her over at Indiana Capitol Chronicle dot com. Nikki Kelly, 420 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 3: thank you. 421 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 9: Thank you guys. 422 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Kendally Casey on ninety three WIBC. 423 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so we got some breaking news Casey. Yeah. 424 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 3: Our old pal Indie reporter Stephen Whitmer at Indie Underscore 425 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 3: Reporter Underscore has let me know that he has obtained 426 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 3: the Mike Bohatchick bodycam video. 427 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: He has. 428 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: Yes, So for those of you who are like most 429 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: of our longtime listeners will remember this, Mike Bohachik is 430 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 3: a state Senator from Northern Indiana. He during the legislative 431 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 3: session was pulled over. It is believed he was called 432 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 3: in by the people at the Panda Express. He was 433 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 3: so liquored up at the Panda Express and then tried 434 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: to leave that people are like this guy cannot be 435 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 3: operating a motor vehicle and was pulled over by the police. 436 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 3: Refused the breathalyzer. Now, this was on a Friday, this afternoon, 437 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: right this Friday afternoon, refuse a breathalyzer. The blood draw 438 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 3: came back was zero point two eighty three, which is 439 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 3: three and a half times the legal limit. However, because 440 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 3: these dirt bags in the General Assembly exempt themselves from 441 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: any sort of prosecution during. 442 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: Session legislative immunity, he. 443 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: Was able to hide in the shadows, continue to legislate 444 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 3: on our behalf and lord over us and make decisions 445 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 3: for us in anonymity. Believe avoided the mugshot. He was 446 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 3: able to drive his car, which a breathalyzer refusal is 447 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 3: an automatic should be an automatical license, you mention, and 448 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: then got a sweetheart plea deal with no real punishment whatsoever, 449 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 3: even though it whatever it was three whatever in the 450 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 3: afternoon he was three and a half times the legal 451 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 3: limit on a Friday, and so Steven our old palette. 452 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 3: If you have not followed the Indie Reporter account, you 453 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 3: should totally should again it's at indie Underscore Reporter Underscore. 454 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 3: Stephen went on a little expedition to try to get 455 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: the video. He found out it was going to cost 456 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 3: him like one hundred and fifty bucks, so he did 457 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: a little Patreon account. 458 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: I gave the first twenty dollars. 459 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 2: Raise the money. 460 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 3: I don't give money on the internet, so I gave 461 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: it to him in person. I gave him an actual 462 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 3: twenty dollars bill. And now he has obtained the video. 463 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 3: He told me he is currently it's about two and 464 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 3: a half hours. 465 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: I think, he said. 466 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 9: Wow. 467 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 3: So he's in the process of working through it and 468 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 3: then he will it's my understanding post some of the 469 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: video tonight to the Indie Reporter Twitter account if people 470 00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 3: want to see this. 471 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure he's got to editing right now. 472 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 473 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: So, anyway, I thought that was a kind of a 474 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: win for humanity and a good job by him being 475 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 3: a tenacious bulldog, and that was one of the best 476 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 3: twenty dollars I ever spent. 477 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 4: Because your theory is that if nothing happens to these guys, 478 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 4: shame them. 479 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: That's it. That's the only option you have. 480 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 3: I mean, look at how many of these guys have 481 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 3: done this stuff and nothing ever happens to them, and 482 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 3: they don't really have any shame, so you can't actually 483 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 3: publicly shame them. But it's the only as a member 484 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 3: of decent, law abiding society, the only recourse we really have. 485 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 4: It's good that he was able to get the price 486 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: down because at one point, weren't they saying it was 487 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 4: going to be like five or eight hundred? 488 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, they I think they might have misquoted that, and 489 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: then he came back and supposed to be within reason, 490 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 3: angled with them. So anyway, hopefully there'll be some good 491 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 3: stuff there for us to view. 492 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: This evening. 493 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 4: Coming up at eleven o'clock, we're going to have Adam 494 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 4: Wren join us. 495 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: Yes, Politico. 496 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: He broke the story yesterday that the Republicans and the 497 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 3: Senator saying they don't have the votes for redistricting. He's 498 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 3: broken a lot of the news as it's related to 499 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 3: the redistricting information. So we'll get with him to hear 500 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 3: what he is hearing. About Hey, is this actually done? 501 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 3: Could it still come back? What does it look like 502 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 3: if they try to go to a special session, et cetera, 503 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: et cetera. 504 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: Isn't that the guy that said you were the most important. 505 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: Powerful, powerful? Yeah? We know, want them good words? 506 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 4: Wrong? 507 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: The most powerful broadcaster in the state of India's right. 508 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, he knows talent when he sees it. What can 509 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: I say? 510 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, we'll discuss with him at eleven o'clock what 511 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 4: he has found out and what he thinks the latest is. 512 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: Okay, So this complete joke of a commission yesterday met 513 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 3: in which their goal is to their stated objective is 514 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 3: to what figure out how to bring thirty three Illinois 515 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: counties into Indiana that are never coming into Indiana? 516 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? Is the Indiana Illinois Boundary Adjustment Commission them met 517 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 4: yesterday in tera hate You might remember this commission was 518 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 4: created during the past legislative session, led by the Speaker 519 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 4: Todd Houston, the purpose to explore transferring some of the 520 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 4: conservative Illinois counties to Indiana. 521 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 3: Okay, so a couple things won. This was the Speaker's 522 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: pet project this year. It wasn't making sure you can 523 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 3: afford to stay in your home and get the property 524 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: taxes under control. His pet project arguably the most powerful 525 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 3: person in the Indiana government because he controls the money. 526 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 3: As the Speaker was to form this commission in which 527 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 3: we've got Bo Baird. Well, speaking of guys who get ow, 528 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 3: i's Bo Baird. Remember he got one. And then conveniently 529 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 3: his name and address were just entered wrong into the system, 530 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 3: and so he evaded any sort of scrutiny until we 531 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 3: found it, and then we had to tell everyone because 532 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 3: he wouldn't man up and tell everyone. And then he 533 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 3: remember he tried to say he was some like struggling 534 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 3: college student, even though he's I think he's older than me, 535 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: which means when this happened, he would have been in 536 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: his mid thirties. But he just his statement was like, 537 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I was a grad student or whatever it was. 538 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: Anyway, we've got Bo Baird. 539 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 3: I think he was on Breitbart laughing about it, saying that, oh, 540 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: this is never happening. And the state of Illinois has 541 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 3: said this is never happening, and they would have to participate. 542 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 3: And even if the governor there suffered some serious head 543 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 3: injury and participated, then the Congress would have to approve it, 544 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 3: and it ain't happening there, and everybody has kind of acknowledged, 545 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: even in this Capitol Chronicle article, they finally acknowledge, basically 546 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 3: for the first time through some sort of spokesperson for 547 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 3: Todd Houston, the Speaker of the House, that this isn't happening. 548 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: So what you've got is the governor Mike Brown. 549 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 4: He appointed six Indiana members, and then Indiana holds six 550 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 4: seats on this commission and Illinois can appoint up to 551 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 4: five members if it passes matching legislation. 552 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: They passed no legislation tho they have a zero members right, and. 553 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 4: The Commission can only act officially if six commissioners are present. 554 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 4: But Illinois doesn't have any commissioners on it. So what 555 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 4: it's just people from Indiana sitting around going, yeah, we're 556 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 4: doing this. 557 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: Well, and I mean nobody from Illinoi's weighing in. 558 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: It's a colossal waste of time. And many people who 559 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 3: spoke yesterday to this commission via video testimony said this 560 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: exact same thing. The people in Illinois don't even agree, 561 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: Like there's thirty three counties who want out, but they 562 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 3: don't even agree what they want to do. There's someone 563 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 3: who want a new state, never happening. There's some that 564 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 3: want to go to another state, never happening. But even 565 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: those who want to go to another state, they don't 566 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 3: want to go to Indiana. They're not all like, let's 567 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 3: do this so we can go to Indiana. Oh and 568 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 3: also they're financial bloodsuckers. So we're going to take on 569 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 3: a state that already can't pay its bills without raising 570 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 3: taxes by a billion dollars, is going to take on 571 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: a bunch of charity cases. 572 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: Boy, that is brilliant. 573 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: Okay, So we've got a hammer who's going to be 574 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 4: joining us in just a few minutes, and we're going 575 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 4: to talk about that breaking story with the Portland Trailblazers 576 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 4: coach Chauncey Billups. He's been arrested by the FBI for 577 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 4: alleged illegal gambling. But before we get to that, let's 578 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: go back to what happened the other NBA started by 579 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 4: the way Pacers have a game tonight. 580 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: First game, first game. 581 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 4: It's a thunder, And so Michael Jordan was doing his 582 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 4: part of his NBC. 583 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: He's with the broadcast team now. 584 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 4: But really what it looks like is that he's just 585 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 4: sitting down for an interview and they're going to chop 586 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 4: it up. 587 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: And air that. 588 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 9: Now. 589 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 3: Your husband was weeping openly because the first game was 590 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: the other night, and like there were all these grown men, 591 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: your husband included in their forties and fifties and sixties, 592 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: who were like turning into little boys because Michael Jordan 593 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 3: is now going to be back on television doing something 594 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 3: with basketball. 595 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jim was saying, we haven't heard his voice in 596 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 2: so long. 597 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 4: But during that interview, Michael Jordan revealed with Mike Tariko 598 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 4: that he hasn't picked up a basketball in years. 599 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: Do you haven't pick up a ball and to shoot? 600 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 5: I haven't picked up a ball in years. 601 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: Come on, just like walk past. 602 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 5: There's got to be a hoop somewhere at your place. 603 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 5: You'll see a hoop anyway around here. 604 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: I don't seriously, it's the last time you picked up 605 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: a basketball and shot it. 606 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 5: I was at the Ride a Cup, Yeah, and I 607 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 5: rented a house from from the owner. Sure, he came 608 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 5: over to do pictures and grandkids and I was beating 609 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 5: greet and thank him for allowing me to stay in 610 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 5: the house. And he had a basketball court. He says, 611 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 5: I want you to shoot one free throw. I said, really, 612 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 5: I already paid for the already paid for the house. It. 613 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: God likely you got to see me. 614 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 5: So when I stepped up to shoot your free throw, 615 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 5: it's the most nervous I've been in year. 616 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: Stop it, in years, Stop it come on. 617 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 5: The reason being is those kids heard the stories from 618 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 5: the parents about what I did thirty years ago. Right, 619 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 5: so the expectation is thirty years prior and I haven't 620 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 5: touched the basketball. I hope you switched it. Absolutely, there's 621 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 5: video of it. 622 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: The video of the videos come out. 623 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: He totally did, Mike, I know, I gotta get the 624 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: hammer of it. 625 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 3: Michael Jordan is fascinating because there are certain people that 626 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 3: it is so much more than just the athletics. They 627 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 3: just sort of defined a generation of people or in 628 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 3: this case, kids or fans. Muhammad Ali was that way, 629 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 3: Mickey Mantle was that way in THEE in the nineteen fifties. 630 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 3: I think Tiger Woods was kind of that way for 631 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: a generation, redefining a sport that didn't have that. But 632 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 3: Michael Jordan is just so much bigger than basketball itself. 633 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 3: And you see it when yeah, he's sixty some years old. 634 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 3: Why would he be playing basket? 635 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: But your somebody challenged him and he said, okay. 636 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: But your husband is like, hey, he's going to give 637 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 3: an interview. I think he's gonna do reveal deepest tarket secrets. 638 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: Nobody he's giving him speaking. 639 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 4: I saw somebody posted a video of Michael Jordan online 640 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 4: when he was playing baseball, and they said, well, what 641 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 4: is this ai Oh wait, no, that actually happens all right. 642 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 3: So there's big arrests involving a professional basketball that came 643 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 3: down earlier this hour, and Jason Hammer will be with 644 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 3: us to make sense of it next. 645 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: It's kind of like ninety three WIBC. 646 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 3: Okay, So big arrests announced this hour related to gambling 647 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: in the National Basketball Association. Jason Hammer won half of 648 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 3: the Hammer and Nigel show is here at sports. It's gambling, 649 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 3: that's you, buddy. What's going on? 650 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 10: This press conference was pretty wild because the information we learned, 651 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 10: it's not necessarily about the people involved, it's about the technology. 652 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,239 Speaker 10: So the Trailblazers coach Chauncey billups, so I think it's 653 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 10: a Hall of famer. Right, won a championship with the 654 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 10: Pistons beat IU in the tournament when he was with 655 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 10: Colorado back in the day. He's been arrested. Miami Heat 656 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 10: player Terry Rozier has been arrested, and former player Damon 657 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 10: Jones have been arrested with three guys. Now Rosier and 658 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 10: Jones are separate than Chauncey Billups. Billups is charged with 659 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 10: being part of these high stakes poker games funded by 660 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 10: the mob where cheating is taking place. And the press 661 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 10: conference to just place was amazing because they're breaking down 662 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 10: the technology used to cheat people in these high stakes 663 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 10: poker games. 664 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's like something from like a. 665 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 10: James Bond or Austin Powers movie special Shufflers where they 666 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 10: can see what's going on. There were also devices where 667 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 10: you could read what's on. 668 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: The cards and things like that. 669 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 3: This is like a Sopranos episode, except its foreign mafia people, 670 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 3: isn't it. 671 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: Well. 672 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 10: It's tied to several different mafia families. Now you've heard 673 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 10: of some of them. Some of them are Italian American 674 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 10: mafia families, the Gambino, the case families. They're still around, 675 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 10: still around, still doing it. Eleven states are involved here, 676 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 10: thirty one total arrests. Now Billups is with the mafia 677 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 10: and the cheating of these high stakes poker games. Terry 678 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 10: Rozier was, in essence point shaving. He was basically telling 679 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 10: all of your buddies to bet the under on my 680 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 10: props during the game, and he would figure out some 681 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,719 Speaker 10: sort of way to either fake an injury or do something. 682 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 10: They had a system set up where the night before 683 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 10: he would tell somebody a certain phrase and that would 684 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 10: be their key to bet the under on a prop. 685 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 10: He's made a ton of this one. 686 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 3: I can't figure out about these NBA guys. He's made 687 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 3: a ton of money in his life playing basketball. 688 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: Why would he do this? That's a great question. They 689 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: can't help themselves. 690 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 10: The FBI said they recorded more than three thousand phone 691 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 10: calls and meetings with the targets of this investigation. People 692 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 10: were wearing wires like this is honestly like something you 693 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 10: would see from a movie. And this is what's interesting is. 694 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 3: These things take time, right, and sometimes they start with 695 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 3: one thing and they end up with another thing because 696 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 3: they catch it looking into the first thing. So just 697 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 3: because the perception. 698 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: Is and it started with Brazier and ended up with Chauncey. 699 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so a lot of times with criminal investigations. Just 700 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 3: because the perceptions nothing's happening doesn't mean nothing. 701 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: Because this took a long time. 702 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 10: Here are the bullet points of some of the technological 703 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 10: advances that were uncovered in this sting. X ray machines 704 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 10: built into poker tables to read face down cards, contact 705 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 10: lenses and glasses that read pre marked cards, secret cameras 706 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 10: and card trays, and special shuffling machines. 707 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 3: Okay, so this is my gambling question to you. Because 708 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 3: you can go to a casino and you can play cards, 709 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: why would he he being Johncey Billups do this. Why 710 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 3: wouldn't he just go to like Michael Jordan was Alan Iverson, 711 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 3: those guys would go play in a casino since. 712 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 10: He was in on defrauding Mose, I got you. 713 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 3: He's in on the on the con. Now it's not 714 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 3: the game that they're going after. No, he was in 715 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 3: on the con. 716 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 10: They were bringing these people in thinking it was a 717 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 10: fair poker game. 718 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm playing cards with Johncey Billups. Right, you guys 719 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: playing cards? 720 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 10: If you remember at the beginning of Ocean's eleven, like 721 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 10: they've got Brad Pitt's character, he's teaching celebrities how to 722 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 10: play poker, and it's these big steaks, back room kind 723 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 10: of games. Kind of what's going on here? They had 724 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 10: these big whales, so it was a mix of Ocean's 725 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 10: eleven and rounders, these back alley poker games. But Teddy 726 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 10: KGB and the mafia are funding these no man, Oh, 727 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 10: so he's in big trouble right right now. I don't 728 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 10: care what's going on in your life. Maybe you're having 729 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 10: job trouble, maybe you're having woman trouble. Whatever the case 730 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 10: may be, you're doing better than Chauncey Billups. His job 731 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 10: right now is to figure out do I want to 732 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 10: go to federal prison or do I want to rat 733 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 10: out the mall right, those are his options right now. 734 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 3: And it's a Hall of Famer. I think he's in 735 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 3: the Hall of fame. He's made a gajillion dollars. Who's 736 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 3: a high profile NBA head coach? Now was or I 737 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 3: guess still maybe is why would you do this? Do 738 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 3: you need money that bad? 739 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 10: And they said the investigation is still ongoing. This is 740 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 10: kind of what they found. It was almost a domino effect. 741 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 10: I think they were probably looking into the players for 742 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 10: point shaving prop shaving and once somebody's in custody because 743 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 10: if you remember, there was a Raptors player that got 744 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 10: in trouble for this, and it sounds like those investigations overlapped. 745 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 10: One person starts squealing to save themselves and now it's 746 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 10: the domino. 747 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 4: Effect and let him to the Portland trail Blazer's head coach. Wow, 748 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 4: this has been there's some up from money to get 749 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 4: this going. 750 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: The technology is wilder. It's like something from a Bond movie. 751 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: What are you doing this afternoon? 752 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 10: We'll have the latest on this and you are going 753 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 10: to come by and go off the rails. Biggest stories 754 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 10: in Indy and rumors of an appearance by Ai Joe 755 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 10: Hawkson you. 756 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: Know he got disinvited to that. He's going to respond, Oh. 757 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: Great, exciting, thanks Sammer. It is Kennelly Casey. It's ninety 758 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 2: three WYBC.