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Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe these characters are weirdos?

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Speaker 3: Hammery, you're a betting man. What are the odds we

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Speaker 3: re end up redistricting this mother effort? Ooh boy, you

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Speaker 3: had to put odds or percentage or whatever you do

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Speaker 3: we into this redistricting thing or not? Do we have

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Speaker 3: the votes or not? It sounds like no at this point.

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Speaker 4: Really a lot of reports coming out WISH TV, are

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Speaker 4: news partners other media outlets saying that based off the

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Speaker 4: information they're getting from the office of the Senate.

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Speaker 3: Pro Temp Rod Bray, they don't have.

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Speaker 4: The votes for a yes on a redistrict Thus the

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Speaker 4: special session might not happen.

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Speaker 3: But I thought that JD. Vans has been here twice

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Speaker 3: the Vice President to try to shake these guys down. JD.

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Speaker 4: Vance has been here twice, and it sounds like Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump may have even made a phone call to certain

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Speaker 4: Indiana officials and they've been to Washington as well. But

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Speaker 4: as of today, it sounds like they don't have the

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Speaker 4: support or the votes from the Republican.

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Speaker 3: How would you put a gambling percentage on this?

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Speaker 4: It's fifty to fifty whoa, I mean, it is fifty

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Speaker 4: to fifty which is a little wild considering, like you said,

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Speaker 4: all the resources that the Republicans in Washington have been

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Speaker 4: sending to Indiana, the big time hitters, and it's just

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Speaker 4: fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 3: How do you feel? I know Rob Kendall, every time

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Speaker 3: I listen to him in the morning, i'm walking my dogs.

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Speaker 3: It's the same. You know, he does not like the

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Speaker 3: idea of redistricting. I'm not sure that I am as

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Speaker 3: passionate about not, Like, if we could get a couple

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Speaker 3: more seats, I'm like, fine, do it, but right, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter in the long run when other states are

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Speaker 3: doing the same thing except the opposite.

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Speaker 4: So, to use another gambling term, it's going to probably

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Speaker 4: end up being a push, right, A push is a

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Speaker 4: gambling term for a tie. So, Okay, Indiana goes and

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Speaker 4: changes their congressional map and the Republicans pick up two seats. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: California is going to do the same thing, and the

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Speaker 4: Democrats will pick up a few. Each state will do that,

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Speaker 4: and we're probably going to get back to where we

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Speaker 4: are right now, and ultimately, and again Rob's passionate about this.

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Speaker 4: I'm somebody that's in favor of it because I like

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Speaker 4: to fight fire with fire. Absolutely, punch back. Don't just

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Speaker 4: take the punches and be moral. But let's be honest.

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Speaker 4: Andre Carson is my Rep. House Rep right now in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: If he loses his seat, I'm probably gonna get stuck

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Speaker 4: with some squish like Jefferson Shreeve. So nothing's really going

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Speaker 4: to change. I've got one guy ignoring me, and he'll

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Speaker 4: be replaced by a new guy that's ignoring me. Okay,

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Speaker 4: all right, But big picture, I think you're going to

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Speaker 4: see some ticked off folks in the Trump administration if

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Speaker 4: this does not happen, which will be interesting to watch

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Speaker 4: them go after Rod Bray. They will go after Rod

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Speaker 4: Bray if Indiana does not have the votes.

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Speaker 3: We're right, no club, no boy.

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Speaker 4: I love Rod Bray about as much as I love

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Speaker 4: the Saint Louis Cardinals, about as much as I love

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Speaker 4: the Belichick Tom Brady New England Patriots. Rod Bray, that

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Speaker 4: dude is the reason why we don't have any property

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Speaker 4: tax relief because he's bought and paid for and he

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Speaker 4: was against constitutional carry until the NRA lobbed off a

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Speaker 4: phone call to him and said it'd be a shame

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Speaker 4: if all of our funding stopped coming to Indiana and

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Speaker 4: lo and behold, hot damn. He became Yosemite Sam at

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Speaker 4: that point. That guy's just the worst, just a squish.

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Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to that. But we're going to

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Speaker 4: ask the governor himself about what's going on here. He

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Speaker 4: a little bit. We will ask him to his face, Hey,

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Speaker 4: what have you heard? What's going on? Is there a

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Speaker 4: cutoff date? We're getting close to November. We kept hearing

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Speaker 4: November date for what special session? Special session because he

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Speaker 4: said it would have to happen in November. Well, Nige,

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Speaker 4: here we are. It's the twenty second of October, and

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Speaker 4: we're hearing reports today.

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Speaker 3: They don't have the votes, So we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 4: Last night at IU Turning Point, USA, event was originally

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Speaker 4: supposed to be Charlie Kirk. He was assassinated in a

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Speaker 4: high profile, just gruesome murder and the events will continue though.

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Speaker 4: Bloomington's continued last night with Tucker Carlson filling in for

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Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk. Governor Brawn spoke at that event a little

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Speaker 4: bit last night, but the main attraction was Tucker Carlson doing.

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Speaker 3: A Q and A from the crowd, and that was it, right,

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Speaker 3: no speech, no long some sort of diatribe. It was

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Speaker 3: That's what it was.

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Speaker 4: And the folks that disagreed with Tucker or Trump or

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Speaker 4: conservative values, they got the ability to talk to Tucker

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Speaker 4: Carlson and just like Charlie Kirk used to do, dialogue

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Speaker 4: took place in Bloomington last night. Sounds like everything went

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Speaker 4: pretty well. No lunatic protesters, no death threats. There are

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Speaker 4: a few outside the venue, a few ten, But I

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Speaker 4: thought there'd be way more, considering the bar that I you,

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Speaker 3: Well, I still think there's some radical things going on

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Speaker 3: like that. Here's a little bit from last night.

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Speaker 4: One student asked Tucker Carlson directly, what is MAGA?

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Speaker 5: Well, what is maga? Well, Maga is five things, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Mega is America first, which means Americans should put no

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Speaker 2: country before America. No pointless wars period, and by pointless

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Speaker 2: I mean wars fought on behalf of an ideology or

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Speaker 5: Are totally unacceptable.

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Speaker 2: Wars fought because somebody running a country is bad.

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Speaker 5: Okay is bad. Bring back American jobs, right jobs.

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Speaker 2: And then of course immigration that you have to control

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Speaker 2: who comes in and out of your country or else

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Speaker 2: you're not a country. And the fifth pillar of MAGA,

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Speaker 2: just to be totally clear, is free speech, because it's

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Speaker 4: So somebody asked, what's maga. Tucker broke it down last night.

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Speaker 4: There was a student, we believe, a student at Indiana

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Speaker 4: that is a little upset that we're not giving Ukraine

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Speaker 2: Why doesn't Poland go to war with Russia? If you're

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Speaker 2: Sorry to be a jerk, but why am I paying

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Speaker 2: for this? This is hurting the United States. I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: I've tried to be reasonable. I understand your concerns. I

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Speaker 2: and it's all real, and I love the polls On

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Speaker 2: the other hand, this is a regional concern. Why am

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Speaker 5: Like I like Poland, I like Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: But like I'm an.

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Speaker 5: American, No one more dollar, No quite the more yourself.

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Speaker 5: If it's so important.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if it was a national security concern, then I

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Speaker 3: would understand US funding something like that, but it's not.

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Speaker 4: There was a student at IU that tried to do

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Speaker 4: some gotcha stuff to Tucker.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 4: Now, if you remember, after the election of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump was still protesting the results, and Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 4: had a text message leaked where he was ripping on

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump. I remember that a student brought that up

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Speaker 4: last night. Here's Tucker responding.

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Speaker 2: I really try to be as transparent as I possibly can.

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Speaker 5: I think you just scoffed in the microphone.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there was the text that came out and

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Speaker 2: court fil Would you like to know what that was,

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Speaker 2: because I'll tell you.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure everyone would love to know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when you just want.

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Speaker 2: To Oh, You're one of the most annoying people I've

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Speaker 5: This is why. Oh no, no, but but hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 5: hold on, hold on. I'm gonna no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 7: Hold on.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna apologize. I just want to apologize.

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Speaker 3: So that was such.

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Speaker 4: Annoying, But I apologize laying the groundwork here. And then

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Speaker 5: I was right.

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Speaker 2: I was in January after the election and Trump was

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Speaker 2: saying they stole it from me. And I called the

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Speaker 2: White House and I said, I'm totally willing to believe that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Zuckerbrn puts, you know, four hundred million dollars

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Speaker 2: that because he believes in good government.

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Speaker 1: Like, what is this?

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Speaker 5: It's clearly their stuff.

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Speaker 2: And I say to the White House, some specifically at

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Speaker 2: the White House, give me examples, and he says, I.

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Speaker 5: Have got a great example for you.

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Speaker 2: I've got seven or eight dead people who voted. And

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Speaker 2: the beauty of that claim was it's provable because they're

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Speaker 2: And they voted, and because they're on the voter rolls,

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Speaker 2: and hear their names. Well, within like twenty five minutes,

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Speaker 2: that I have just like.

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Speaker 5: Made this colossal error on the air.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing I hate more than being wrong and humiliated

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Speaker 5: Like I have a staff, we should get this right.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't get it right because it's so easy

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Speaker 2: didn't check, and I was enraged, and I was just

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Speaker 2: enraged by the whole thing. And my position was at

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Speaker 2: the time, if you're going to claim it was stolen,

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Speaker 2: prove it to me.

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Speaker 4: So that's why Tucker had those text messages. Okay, let's

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Speaker 4: fast forward this back and forth because this went on

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Speaker 4: how come.

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Speaker 6: You weren't saying these things during like.

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Speaker 5: On Fox News.

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Speaker 6: I did the next day, you know, And I'm not

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Speaker 6: here to just try to argue with you, Like I

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Speaker 6: really do think this country is going through some like

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Speaker 6: deeply troubling times argue with me.

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Speaker 2: You just said, wait to stop, you just it's not

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Speaker 2: no no wait, no, no.

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Speaker 5: Wait, hold on. You just you said why didn't you

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Speaker 2: And I said I did the next day on the

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Speaker 2: air whive on Fox News.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, whatever, No.

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Speaker 6: But you didn't though, like the thesis of your show,

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Speaker 6: the emphasis.

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Speaker 5: Talking about I went immediately on.

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Speaker 7: The ap out.

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Speaker 5: Okay, fine, what do you mean it's a cop out.

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Speaker 5: I was completely wrong.

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Speaker 2: I blamed the Trump campaign for being wrong when it

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Speaker 6: It's just so you don't take any ownership for like device,

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Speaker 4: Yes, I truly doubt your sincerity, and I.

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Speaker 4: So that's a little bit about how Tucker Carlson does

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Speaker 4: Okay, sounds like Tucker disagrees with everything you find on

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Speaker 3: Hammer in Nigel.

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Speaker 5: Hill, do you suppose we'll meet any wild animals the water?

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Speaker 3: Cristal, the dingo, ain't your baby? And now Hammer Nigel

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that was a warning above the garage door opener.

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Speaker 3: Wow, damn nature, you scary. You're listening to the Hammer

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Speaker 3: and Nigel Show. Hello, everybody, My name is Nigel. That

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Speaker 3: is Jason Hammer. Turning Point USA last night in Bloomington.

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Speaker 3: Down at IU by all means a successful turnout lines

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Speaker 3: Some of these kids. Well that's what he does, dropping f.

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Speaker 4: That's the peaceful tolerant left that's in his in his picture.

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Speaker 4: But that question is exactly what these a holes want.

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Speaker 3: Exactly exactly why. Here's another one. Why doesn't someone post

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Speaker 4: No, but it was a no King's post making fun

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Speaker 3: The wheelchair was irrelevant. People make me sick. You guys

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Speaker 7: That's sick man.

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Speaker 4: And Democrats who actually have a chance to win elections

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Speaker 4: are going to have to break away from that wing

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Speaker 4: of their party.

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Speaker 3: Right. Think about Indiana absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Think about here Bo Bye. You might like the Bye family,

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Speaker 4: you might not.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. But he is running for secretary of state.

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Speaker 3: Oh I heard him on Rob's show a couple days ago.

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Speaker 4: He is going to have to at some point separate

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Speaker 4: himself from these lunatics. And when he does that, what

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Speaker 4: will happen? Are they going to support him or will

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Speaker 4: they turn their back?

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Speaker 3: He said he would, He said he wants to. He

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Speaker 3: said that's the plan. And by the way, my wife

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Speaker 3: got a picture that guy showed up in her Instagram

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Speaker 3: feed and she said, Nigel, who is this there? I go, oh,

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Speaker 3: that's the uh that's a Democratic nominee, possibly for secretary

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Speaker 3: of State. Do you understand what I'm getting at? He's

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Speaker 3: a good looking kid, a very tall, good looking man,

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Speaker 3: good looking kid, young kid.

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Speaker 4: But you know what, there's a lot of good people

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Speaker 4: that are turns at politics, so uh, you know, we'll

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Speaker 4: see what happened.

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Speaker 3: Good point.

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Speaker 4: All right, we'll take a little time out here. When

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Speaker 4: we come back, we'll see if we can line up

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Speaker 4: Al Uncer Junior. We're working on getting him on the

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Speaker 4: the show. He's got a cool event coming up at

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Speaker 4: Mad Hatter Shows. We'll try to get him lined up next.

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Speaker 4: Check this out. Coming to the Mad Hatter Shows and

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Speaker 4: event Center Saturday, November one, an evening with Al Uncerted Junior,

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Speaker 4: two time Indy five hundred champion. He joins us. Now,

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Speaker 4: Al Junior, how the heck are you?

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Speaker 9: We're doing great? Thanks for having us on.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, this is gonna be a really cool event.

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Speaker 4: If you're an IndyCar fan, you need to check this

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Speaker 4: out now. I assume you're not going to be performing

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Speaker 4: songs or maybe doing your R rated stand up comedy.

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Speaker 4: What's what's an evening with Al Junior?

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Speaker 9: Like, Well, Dave the King Wilson is going to be

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Speaker 9: on stage with me, and he's gonna be your talent,

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Speaker 9: and I'm gonna just be up there and We're just

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Speaker 9: gonna talk about some race and stories and just just

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Speaker 9: really just have a great time. We'll be there for

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Speaker 9: about an hour and uh and then we'll open it

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Speaker 9: up for questions and then and then we'll stay afterwards

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Speaker 9: and sign some autographs.

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Speaker 3: Hey Junior, just a quick question and we'll get back

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Speaker 3: to the comedy show or your performance here with David

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Speaker 3: King Wilson at the Mad Hatter Shows and Events Center

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Speaker 3: in just a second. Obviously, the two time Indy five

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Speaker 3: hundred victories are I would I'm projecting here there's a

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Speaker 3: pinnacle of your career. But what about the twenty four

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Speaker 3: hours of Daytona? Is that would would you? Would you?

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Speaker 3: Would that be second on the list? It would be

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Speaker 3: it would be up there.

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Speaker 9: The thing that you know, when when I talk about

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Speaker 9: the Daytona twenty four hours, the first thing that comes

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Speaker 9: to my mind is brueling. Yeah, it is brueling race,

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Speaker 9: and it is a long race and it's hard. It's

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Speaker 9: it's physically hard.

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Speaker 3: But you did it twice. Yep, yep, yep.

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Speaker 9: I ran it. I ran it probably I don't know,

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Speaker 9: five or six times, and every time we lost about

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Speaker 9: eight pounds of weight in that twenty four hour period.

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Speaker 3: My goodness.

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Speaker 4: That's uh.

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Speaker 5: It was grueling.

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Speaker 9: It is a gruely race. And so for you know,

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Speaker 9: I love the race. I watch it when it comes

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Speaker 9: on and that sort of thing, and I just know,

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Speaker 9: you know, those those guys today, the reliability on the

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Speaker 9: cars are so much better than they were in the eighties.

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Speaker 9: When I want it, they're out there, they're driving ten

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Speaker 9: tenths the entire time, where where you know, we had

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Speaker 9: to take care of our equipment and that sort of thing,

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Speaker 9: and so you know, we probably drive seven or eight

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Speaker 9: tenths most of the race to make sure that the car,

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Speaker 9: you know, was there at the finish. And so these guys, man,

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Speaker 9: they run them hard, and I got great respect for him.

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Speaker 3: And I know I should be asking you about your

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Speaker 3: INNY five hundred victories. Obviously everybody asked you about that.

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Speaker 3: I'm just fascinated by the two wins for the twenty

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Speaker 3: four hours of Daytona. Did you sleep at all during

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Speaker 3: the time, like you.

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Speaker 9: Know, you're inside the racetrack and the cars are going by, right,

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Speaker 9: and yeah, you you end up falling asleep, but only

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Speaker 9: for like, you know, an hour or something like that,

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Speaker 9: because you know, you're you're you're into the race and

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Speaker 9: that sort of thing and so uh fascinating. It is

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Speaker 9: tough to sleep, but yes, you do fall asleep eventually. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Speaking with al Unswer, Junior coming to Greenwood the Mad

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Speaker 4: Hatter Shows and Events Center Saturday, November first. The show

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Speaker 4: is seven pm. Get your ticket right now, Junior and

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Speaker 4: are Pal, Dave the King Wilson just talking some shop,

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Speaker 4: making some people laugh, having a good time out exact.

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Speaker 3: You heard Nigel.

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Speaker 4: Earlier say that, you know, everybody always ask you about

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Speaker 4: the Indy five hundred.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever get tired of it?

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Speaker 4: Like I've heard musicians say they get tired of playing

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Speaker 4: their hits when they do a song concert right, it's

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Speaker 4: a hit and bontage if you're lucky at some of

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Speaker 4: these shows. Do you ever get tired of people quoting

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Speaker 4: you don't know what Indie means, or talking about the wins,

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Speaker 4: not ask.

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Speaker 3: Good for you? Good for you?

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Speaker 9: You know when in the five hundred is such a

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Speaker 9: special day for for the winners. And and it never

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Speaker 9: goes away. You know, you're once you win the Indy

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Speaker 9: five hundred, your title becomes Indy five hundred winners for

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Speaker 9: the rest of your five not just for you know,

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Speaker 9: it's it's for the and and and the only thing

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Speaker 9: before that is this year's Indy five hundred winner. But

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Speaker 9: for the rest of your life, you're an Indy five

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Speaker 9: hundred winner. And and I can tell you Uncle Bobby

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Speaker 9: and Dad they never got tired of it either. They

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Speaker 9: loved it.

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Speaker 4: That's awesome. Love to hear that. Uh out who was

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Speaker 4: the toughest competitor you ever had to deal with out

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Speaker 4: on the track.

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Speaker 9: The one that crashed into me.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna have to be more specific than that, whoever

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Speaker 4: that was, whoever that was?

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Speaker 9: No, no, no, no, seriously, there was in my era,

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Speaker 9: there was so many good drivers out there. You know,

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Speaker 9: You've got Mario and Michael Andretti, You've got Emerson, fit Ofpaldi,

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Speaker 9: Rick Meers, Nigel Mansell came over for a couple of years.

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Speaker 9: There was just so many of them that that you

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Speaker 9: just can't pick out just one because it's like like

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Speaker 9: they would have me about racing against my dad, and

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Speaker 9: and did I concentrate on my dad? If I concentrated

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Speaker 9: on my dad, I'd have six cars go by me

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Speaker 9: on the other side, right, And so that's the way

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Speaker 9: it was. I mean, it was just so competitive and

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Speaker 9: and so you had to be on the top of

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Speaker 9: your game every single race.

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Speaker 4: But be honest, I felt good to beat your dad though, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean, come on, yeah, of course.

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Speaker 9: He was the first one that I wanted to be

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Speaker 9: but I didn't concentrate on that.

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Speaker 4: Hey, before we let you go here, al, we got

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Speaker 4: about a minute left here, tell us about the show.

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Speaker 4: If somebody's thinking about buying tickets and heading out for

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Speaker 4: us Saturday evening November first that the Mad Hatter shows

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Speaker 4: an event center, what are they in store for?

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Speaker 5: They're in store for just a great time.

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Speaker 9: You know, we're we're going to get up there and

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Speaker 9: and Dave Wilson and I've we've done this kind of

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Speaker 9: thing before and we had great success with it. Do

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Speaker 9: you never know where Dave is going to take it, right,

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Speaker 9: So you know he's up there asking me questions and

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Speaker 9: that sort of thing, and and and so you know,

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Speaker 9: we've had a long past with each other. We know

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Speaker 9: our paths from the from the eighties and nineties when

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Speaker 9: when he was on the Bob and Tom Show and

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Speaker 9: that sort of thing. And so we get into it

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Speaker 9: and and uh and we we cross some some some

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Speaker 9: interesting subjects. And he reminds me of certain memories that

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Speaker 9: I have that that I've forgotten that I'll bring up

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Speaker 9: and and uh and it's just a bunch of stories

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Speaker 9: and uh, yeah, it's about the racing, where where we

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Speaker 9: think racing is going to be going, uh in the future,

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Speaker 9: and that sort of thing, and and just just a

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Speaker 9: great time to be honest.

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Speaker 4: Get your tickets now, Matt had our shows and event center.

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Speaker 4: It's in Greenwood Saturday, November one. Uh the King and

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Speaker 4: Al Junior two time ND five hundred champion. Al have

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Speaker 4: a great show man and we'll talk again soon.

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Speaker 9: You got it. The doors open at six and the

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Speaker 9: show starts at seven and we hope to see everybody there.

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Speaker 4: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.

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Speaker 3: Hello everybody, My name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over

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Speaker 3: there with a very special in studio guest.

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Speaker 4: One of our friends is the CEO of h VAF

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Speaker 4: Indiana helping veterans and families Emmy Hildebrand is here him Emily.

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Speaker 3: Hemmy, how are you? I'm good?

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Speaker 4: How are you? Last time I saw you, I was

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Speaker 4: competing in the Hogies and Hops eating contests at their

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Speaker 4: restaurant where the proceeds were benefiting your organization.

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Speaker 3: And you you won. I won that thing sight to

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Speaker 3: see for that's a very polite way of seeing to

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Speaker 3: throw up while I watched you gorge yourself with these

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Speaker 3: Philly cheese steaks from Hogies and Hop.

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Speaker 4: Emmy and I were talking during the commercial break because

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Speaker 4: that eating contest was local media people, and you had

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Speaker 4: really good looking TV folks, right like Angela moy Yan

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Speaker 4: of Wish TV, Ryan Morris.

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Speaker 3: Of The Weather Guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, really in shape, good looking people. And then I

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Speaker 4: walked through the front doors and you could hear a

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Speaker 4: record scratch.

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Speaker 3: They knew, they knew who was winning that contest.

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Speaker 8: They were just intimidated, that's all.

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Speaker 4: They looked at me and said, oh, you must be

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Speaker 4: the favorite, which is fancy talk for the fat guys here, right,

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Speaker 4: come on. But we raised a lot of money, didn't we.

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Speaker 8: It was a record year. Christina and Hokus Cusan so generous,

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Speaker 8: but yes, this was the most ever and the celebrity

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Speaker 8: contest was just a fun addition to the real competition

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Speaker 8: where they ate twice as much in half the time.

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Speaker 4: Now, the reason we invited you up here today, Emmy,

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Speaker 4: was I can't believe it's been a year since those

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Speaker 4: devastating fires that took place that displaced a lot of

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Speaker 4: your veterans.

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Speaker 8: It has been just about a year. On Sunday, it

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Speaker 8: will mark a full twelve months since we experienced a

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Speaker 8: fire at our Manchester Apartments, which is our largest transitional

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Speaker 8: housing facility, where forty eight veterans were staying during the fire.

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Speaker 4: Now, before we move into what this past year has

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Speaker 4: been like, reset what HVAF is and what you guys do.

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Speaker 8: HVAF of Indiana Helping Veterans and Families is the largest

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Speaker 8: organization in Indiana dedicated to serving veterans facing homelessness. So

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Speaker 8: every year we serve between thirteen and fourteen hundred veterans

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Speaker 8: who need housing assistants, employment services, and basic needs support

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Speaker 8: through our food and clothing pantries. We're really excited this

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Speaker 8: year we announced a twenty six percent reduction in veteran

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Speaker 8: homelessness here in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: And that's good.

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Speaker 7: That's what.

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Speaker 3: Do you attribute that to hard work and hustle.

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Speaker 8: We have an amazing team at HVAF and we are

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Speaker 8: really relentlessly focused on ending veteran homelessness here in our city.

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Speaker 8: Over the last ten years, there's been a seventy percent reduction,

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Speaker 8: so that's amazing effectively using our resources to move veterans

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Speaker 8: from streets to permanent housing as quickly as possible.

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Speaker 4: And not only are you housing these folks, but your

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Speaker 4: goal is to get these veterans' jobs to the point

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Speaker 4: to where they can live.

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Speaker 8: On their own absolutely, and the majority of the veterans

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Speaker 8: that are enrolled in HBAF programs leave without further support,

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Speaker 8: so they are maintaining their own housing, they have jobs,

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Speaker 8: they're enrolled in appropriate healthcare, and they're stable after they

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Speaker 8: have received services from us. What is transitional housing, it's

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Speaker 8: temporary housing. So the Department of Veterans Affairs funds a

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Speaker 8: program that they call the Grant and per Diem program,

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Speaker 8: So veterans are they have to be literally homeless to

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Speaker 8: be eligible for services, and they can stay in one

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Speaker 8: of our facilities for up to two years, but the

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Speaker 8: average day is about six to nine months. And the

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Speaker 8: whole goal is to quickly address any barriers to permanent

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Speaker 8: housing and get them moved out.

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming health care and mental health is a part

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Speaker 3: of this sort of rehabilitation.

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Speaker 8: It's a huge part of it. About eighty percent of

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Speaker 8: the veterans we serve report a mental health or substance

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Speaker 8: use diagnosis. So we have an on staff therapist and

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Speaker 8: a mental health team that works really hard to make

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Speaker 8: sure that veterans are stable and they're able to be

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Speaker 8: successful once they leave our transitional housing.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Amy Hildebrand is our guest, the CEO of HVATH Indiana.

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Speaker 4: So let's go back about a year. Sunday will be

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Speaker 4: a year this fire that went through the housing area.

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Speaker 4: What did that do to you guys?

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Speaker 8: Well, the immediate thing, obviously, we had forty eight veterans

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Speaker 8: living there and the building was nearly completely destroyed. If

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Speaker 8: you look at Manchester Apartments, it's two long corridors with

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Speaker 8: a courtyard in the middle, and I think, thank goodness

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Speaker 8: we have a courtyard because that spared the entire building

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Speaker 8: from burning. But one of the corridors was nearly destroyed.

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Speaker 8: The other one was soaked by the thousands of gallons

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Speaker 8: of water that poured down to save it, so immediately

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Speaker 8: we had to rehouse forty eight veterans and be able

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Speaker 8: to prove support services because they were already struggling when

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Speaker 8: they came to us, and then they just experienced this

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Speaker 8: new trauma on top of everything that they'd been through.

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Speaker 8: So our staff is amazing. They really stepped it up,

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Speaker 8: and we were providing you know, mental health care every

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Speaker 8: day at temporary hotels around the city to make sure

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Speaker 8: that those forty eight veterans were cared for. So in

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Speaker 8: the last twelve months, we've gone from standing in the

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Speaker 8: middle of Pennsylvania Street wondering how we would ever recover

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Speaker 8: from this tragedy, to really starting reconstruction as soon as possible.

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Speaker 8: In July, we reopened half of the building and it's

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Speaker 8: already full. So we've got twenty three veterans ending their

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Speaker 8: homelessness there right now and we are working really hard

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Speaker 8: on the rest of the building, which should be complete

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Speaker 8: by August of twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Two things, do you know what caused the fire and

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Speaker 3: what is the age range of people that are utilizing

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Speaker 3: your surface?

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Speaker 8: So the fire was an electrical fire and it started

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Speaker 8: in the attic of the buildings, so it was above

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Speaker 8: our sprinkler system, which is how it was able to

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Speaker 8: burn so quickly out out of control, and once it

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Speaker 8: got up into the attic, it just spread the whole

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Speaker 8: length of the building and kind of burned out of control.

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Speaker 8: In terms of ages, we serve veterans from age twenty

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Speaker 8: two is probably about our youngest all the way to

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Speaker 8: eighty five. Plus the majority of the veterans we serve

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Speaker 8: are over the age of fifty about sixty percent, but

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Speaker 8: we're seeing many more younger veterans, so like global we're

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Speaker 8: on terror veterans, and also a huge increase in women

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Speaker 8: veterans in the last few years.

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Speaker 4: So fast forward one year later, how are things Like

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Speaker 4: is everything open now? Like are you guys just a

739
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Speaker 4: well oiled machine? Like how long did it take for

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Speaker 4: you guys to get your legs underneath of you?

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Speaker 8: I think that's really the most incredible part is that

742
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Speaker 8: we dealt with this incredible tragedy in chaotic year. But

743
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Speaker 8: we also stayed really focused on our mission, which is

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Speaker 8: ending veteran homelessness. So we talked about the reduction already,

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Speaker 8: but all that happened simultaneously. Every day we do life

746
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Speaker 8: changing homelessness, ending work, and we still did that every

747
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 8: day of this last twelve months, but we also have

748
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Speaker 8: been undergoing a massive construction project. So the building is

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Speaker 8: half open. It will be fully open in August of

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty six and when we reopen. The night of

751
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 8: the fire, we had fifty one units. When we reopen,

752
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 8: we'll have sixty five. So done a little redesign and

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00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 8: removing our food and clothing pantries over there, and we'll

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Speaker 8: have some on site storage capacity which we don't currently have.

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Speaker 3: How is it getting funded? Is it purely insurance?

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Speaker 8: It is not.

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Speaker 3: Is it donations?

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Speaker 8: It's donations, so insurance they have one job, which is

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Speaker 8: to restore what you had, But we wanted to be

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Speaker 8: really thoughtful and make sure that what we built is

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Speaker 8: what we need and will need for veterans in the

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Speaker 8: decades to come. So thanks to the generous support of

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Speaker 8: our community, we're using those donations to add the fourteen

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Speaker 8: units and to renovate the pantry space.

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Speaker 4: That's awesome, Emmy hilde Brand with us CEO of HVATH. Wow,

766
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Speaker 4: you've been on with us a number of times. What's

767
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Speaker 4: been the response of the Hammer and Nigel Wibc audience

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Speaker 4: every time? You come on.

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Speaker 8: Well, I have to tell you your people are our people.

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Speaker 8: So probably right now I'm getting texts on my phone

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Speaker 8: from people who are listening that support hva F and

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Speaker 8: the work that we do in our loyal listeners of

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Speaker 8: yours as well. So really appreciate you guys having me

774
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 8: on so much and you know, cheering us on as

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Speaker 8: we go through all of this.

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Speaker 3: So that being said, what can we do to help you.

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Speaker 8: Can continue to raise awareness. You know, veterans are more

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Speaker 8: likely to be homeless than non veterans, especially women veterans,

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Speaker 8: which is the fastest growing segment of the homeless population

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Speaker 8: in the United States.

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Speaker 3: Why.

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Speaker 8: I think they face a unique set of circumstances and

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00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 8: challenges that civilians don't. You know, they often are uprooted

784
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Speaker 8: from their lives and they join the military, and when

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Speaker 8: they come home, it's just it's not quite the same.

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Speaker 8: They're not the same and home is not the same,

787
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Speaker 8: and that can be a really hard adjustment. So it's

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Speaker 8: really important that as a community we make sure that

789
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Speaker 8: those who are struggling on our street have the resources

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Speaker 8: that they need.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you one more question, and I want

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Speaker 3: to be respectful of your time, but you deal with

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Speaker 3: homeless veterans. I'm wondering if this, if your model can

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Speaker 3: be extrapolated to homeless citizens in Indianeapolis that don't have

795
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Speaker 3: a military background. Does does that make sense?

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Speaker 5: It does?

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Speaker 8: I think the principles are the same. You know, we

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00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 8: have three main housing programs that we utilize to serve veterans.

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Speaker 8: Are transitional housing, which is temporary. We have a rental

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Speaker 8: assistance program where we work with veterans who are literally

801
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Speaker 8: homeless or within two weeks of eviction to stabilize them.

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Speaker 8: It's a lighter touch. And then we have something called

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Speaker 8: permanent support of housing, which is for veterans who may

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Speaker 8: need lifelong support to keep their housing. I think all

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Speaker 8: of those models are being used in the wider homeless

806
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Speaker 8: service community, but maybe not resourced as well. So I

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Speaker 8: do think there are a lot of lessons that can

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Speaker 8: be applied.

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Speaker 4: Mark on the YouTube chat where can we donate? How

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Speaker 4: can we help?

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Speaker 8: I would direct people to our website HVAF dot org.

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00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 8: There is an opportunity to donate financially, which we would

813
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 8: greatly appreciate. There's also an opportunity to donate your time

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Speaker 8: our food and clothing pantries are staffed fully by volunteers

815
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Speaker 8: every Tuesday and Thursday. And I love working in the

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Speaker 8: pantry because you know, life is hard and it's complex,

817
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Speaker 8: and hardly ever can you meet a need in a moment,

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Speaker 8: and you can do that in the pantry.

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Speaker 4: And one of the great things that I think local

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Speaker 4: like athletic teams can do is volunteer at a place

821
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Speaker 4: like HVAF. When I was coaching travel baseball for a

822
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Speaker 4: number of years and my son was playing, we would

823
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Speaker 4: always every Thanksgiving take them to a food bank or

824
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Speaker 4: take them to a local charity. And so many high

825
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Speaker 4: school kids have to get charity hours. In your organization

826
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Speaker 4: would be the perfect place for that.

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Speaker 8: We host high school students all the time and would

828
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Speaker 8: welcome anyone. We also have opportunity to do collection drives,

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Speaker 8: so we're coming up on the holiday season, so you know,

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Speaker 8: any food drives or can food items, comparisable food items,

831
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Speaker 8: winter clothing, we need all of that. Our food and

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Speaker 8: clothing pantries are stocked with donations and last year we

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Speaker 8: distributed one hundred and five thousand pounds of food and

834
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Speaker 8: clothes to veterans and needs. So donations are always welcome.

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Speaker 4: HVAF Dot org. That is the website for helping veterans

836
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Speaker 4: and families here in Indiana. Emmy Hildebrand, Emmy, it's been

837
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Speaker 4: a long year, but God bless you and thank you

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Speaker 4: for doing what you do.

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Speaker 8: Thank you Amy, Thank you guys again for all of

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Speaker 8: your support and for tearing us on.

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Speaker 3: It means a lot present.

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Speaker 4: It depends upon what the meaning of the word is.

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Speaker 3: Is this anything? Fredie by Indiana Unclaimed presented by the

844
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Speaker 3: Attorney General's Office. The Attorney General's Office reuniting Hoosiers with

845
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Speaker 3: over one million dollars in unclaimed property every single week, fast,

846
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Speaker 3: easy and free to search. If you've got any money

847
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Speaker 3: floating around out there, Indiana Unclaimed dot gove. Is this

848
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Speaker 3: anything now?

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Speaker 4: Experts are saying that the object that hit a United

850
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Speaker 4: Flights windshield was not space junk but a weather balloon.

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Speaker 7: Oh.

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Speaker 3: I also heard it was alien technology. I heard several

853
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: things about this. Yeah, go ahead, alien space junk. Experts

854
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 3: are now saying it was a weather balloon. It caused

855
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Speaker 3: the plane's windshield to shatter. Yeah, here's the CEO of

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Speaker 3: Windborne Systems admitting that it was one of his two

857
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Speaker 3: pound weather balloons.

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Speaker 9: So, given our flight telemetry data, it appears likely to

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Speaker 9: us that it was a windborn balloon that struck the plan,

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Speaker 9: or rather the plane flew into a wind born balloon.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so it's your fault. It's your fault that the

862
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: flight had to divert thanks jerk. The the pilots windshield

863
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 3: went out and he was injured. And there were people

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Speaker 3: speculating that it was some sort of unidentified flying object

865
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Speaker 3: that collided with the more explanation. At least it wasn't

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Speaker 3: a Chinese weather balloon, right right.

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Speaker 4: There was spying on our country that pretty much did

868
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Speaker 4: the job until the very end. Like the Biden administration,

869
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Speaker 4: if you remember, allowed it to go across the country.

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Speaker 3: Then when it got to the ocean, hovering over nuclear

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Speaker 3: installations in the mountains in the middle of the.

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Speaker 4: United States, military bases in Midwest. But when it got

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Speaker 4: to the ocean by Myrtle Beach, that's when they decided

874
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 4: to go full Johnny tough guy and showed it down.

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Speaker 3: We didn't want to hurt anybody. There was no way

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Speaker 3: in any shape or form that it was transmitting plans

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Speaker 3: back to Russia or China.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to lie this kid's birthday party sounds awful?

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Speaker 3: Is this anything?

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Speaker 4: A New Jersey boy wanted a special themed party for

881
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Speaker 4: his fifth birthday. The theme was President Jimmy Carter. He

882
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 4: wanted a Jimmy Carter themed party that also tied into

883
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 4: Habitat for Humanity and a bunch of gear to celebrate.

884
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 4: Here is Ryan and his mom opening up a gift.

885
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 7: Do you know who this is?

886
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 5: From?

887
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 9: All?

888
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: His happy birthday from Habitat for Humanity.

889
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 10: We heard about your amazing party and that President Carter

890
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 10: is your favorite US president.

891
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 3: Look as this Jimmy.

892
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Speaker 7: Carter in the Ravelin Carter project.

893
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 10: Wow, look at my goodness.

894
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 5: He bought the drill so he gets smack.

895
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 3: So now, who could you be like Jimmy? I want

896
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 3: to be like Jimmy and the Iranian hostage cry in

897
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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy nine, energy crisis since seventy nine and the

898
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 3: oil and the economic.

899
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Speaker 4: Struggles and crippling economic strideign policy and several missteps.

900
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 3: But President Carter was my favorite. Where does a five

901
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 3: year old get that? He gets that from his parents, right?

902
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 4: And his parents are clearly losers because post President Jimmy Carter. Okay,

903
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 4: if you want to say he's a great humanitarian. I'll

904
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 4: listen to that. He did more outside of his presidency

905
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Speaker 4: than he did during it. He did his theme was

906
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 4: President Jimmy Carter. That's like having your theme of the

907
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns for your football party.

908
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 3: I mean, he lost it a landslide in nineteen eighty Oreagan,

909
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: I can't even I'm trying to think of a sports analogy.

910
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 3: Maybe you're better than that than I am.

911
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: It wasn't the biggest ass kicking of all time because

912
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Speaker 4: that was the sequel when Mondale lost to Reagan.

913
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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, but nineteen eighty just just destroyed between

914
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Speaker 3: the economy and the energy crisis, in the the Iran

915
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Speaker 3: hostage crisis. But nobody is like, nobody quested Jimmy Carter's heart.

916
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 4: No, he was just dumb. He was a horrible president,

917
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 4: a horrible president. But he was a nice guy, which

918
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 4: we've always said, Okay, give him a store, don't give

919
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 4: him the country. You know, let them babysit your kids.

920
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 4: Don't give him the keys to the country. Can you

921
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 4: imagine one of your kids at five years old going,

922
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 4: I want a Jimmy Carter themed party. No, that's awful

923
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 4: and the parents should be ashamed of themselves. It's the

924
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Speaker 4: Hammer and Nigel Show.

925
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Speaker 3: Find him is idel Jason Hammer right over there with

926
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Speaker 3: a very special in studio guests.

927
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Speaker 4: The governor for the Great State of Indiana is Governor

928
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Speaker 4: Mike Brawn. So the million dollar question is special session

929
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Speaker 4: or not. We're hearing stories this morning, our news partners

930
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Speaker 4: all saying there's a report coming from the Senate pro

931
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Speaker 4: Temps Office. The votes aren't there. There's not enough Republicans

932
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Speaker 4: to call for or pass rather a redistricting plan. Have

933
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Speaker 4: you heard anything? Do we have any updates?

934
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Speaker 7: You're a betting man, what do you think the odds are?

935
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Speaker 3: That's what I asked.

936
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Speaker 4: He asked me that earlier, fifty to fifty, because I

937
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Speaker 4: feel like there's a lot of pressure from Washington to

938
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Speaker 4: make this happen.

939
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Speaker 3: Is there is there? Like when JD. Vance, the Vice

940
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Speaker 3: President of the United States, shows up twice within a

941
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Speaker 3: month or two, like, what what does he sit down

942
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Speaker 3: and talk to you about?

943
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Speaker 7: I'd say, there's a thing called let's extrapolate it. You

944
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Speaker 7: start and where's it gonna go? Yeah, he was in

945
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Speaker 7: in August, I believe, and then yes in several weeks ago,

946
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Speaker 7: and then last for I think the head Cheese was

947
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Speaker 7: talking to the entire Senate, so that to me looks

948
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Speaker 7: like they're going to keep working the vote count, and

949
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Speaker 7: from what we can see, even though you're not going

950
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Speaker 7: to get that exact figure, maybe coming out of the

951
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Speaker 7: Senate that gets closer and closer every day. I mean,

952
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Speaker 7: when you look at some of the underlying reasons. I've

953
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Speaker 7: said it on here before, the Dams wouldn't hesitate a

954
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Speaker 7: moment to do it, and they always take it to

955
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Speaker 7: the limit, and the fact that they're raising so much

956
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 7: cain about it would be that they really cannot jerrymander

957
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Speaker 7: any further. Almost throughout the country, California's got the only

958
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 7: number of Democrats that you could probably play with, but

959
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 7: they're losing populations, so in next census they'll probably lose

960
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 7: two to three congressional districts. But our closest counterparts, Massachusetts,

961
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Speaker 7: they've had little lower than we are red, but they're

962
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Speaker 7: troughing out. We get a little redder each year. They've

963
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 7: had nine congressional districts all blue. Jerrymanderd for a long

964
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 7: long time. So I think many people believe that you

965
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Speaker 7: should do it within the normal structure of it, and

966
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Speaker 7: I think many people think that Republicans got to start

967
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Speaker 7: fighting fire with fire, and I think that's the argument

968
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Speaker 7: that's been syncing in among the senators that the White

969
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Speaker 7: House has been talking to. I think we're even closer

970
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 7: to it now than we would have been a week ago.

971
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Speaker 3: Did you sit down face to face with the Vice President?

972
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Speaker 7: I did when he was in here the last time

973
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Speaker 7: I know jd Well from I guess the two years

974
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 7: we served together, or of Ohio.

975
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you had mentioned on our program before that there's

976
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 4: a cutoff date. Right November would have to be the

977
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 4: time for a special session to be called. You know,

978
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Speaker 4: here we are at the twenty second of October. We're

979
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 4: getting pretty close to cutoff time. Do you have a

980
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 4: date in your mind as to where whether you could

981
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 4: do the special session?

982
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 7: We're still in good shape there, and that to get

983
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 7: done would need some preparation, but we're not at that point,

984
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 7: but we're closer to getting there. All along, I said,

985
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 7: the legislature is going to have to think about it.

986
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,959
Speaker 7: They're going to get persuaded. Republicans across the state are

987
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 7: increasingly behind it. Where that started off probably fifty to fifty,

988
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 7: And there was a poll recently that the people that

989
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Speaker 7: don't want it did that poll that set it's up

990
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Speaker 7: to seventy five twenty five, and that means it's closer

991
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Speaker 7: to probably eighty five fifteen, and then you're getting to

992
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 7: a place where the grass root voters are interested in it,

993
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 7: they'll be getting they'll be getting a hold of their

994
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 7: own reps, and especially senators.

995
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 4: You frustrated with the Senate right now.

996
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 7: You know, I'm not in the sense that to me,

997
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 7: it was kind of clear how it would evolve, and

998
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 7: it's pretty well happened the way I thought it would.

999
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 7: And I think we're getting real close to where there'll

1000
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 7: be enough senators that get you to the point where

1001
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Speaker 7: you call a special session and then they're on record

1002
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 7: to say which way they're going to go.

1003
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 4: There's a lot I'm sorry, go ahead.

1004
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 3: I just I wonder if redistricting, and if it's successful,

1005
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 3: how much difference is it going to make in totality.

1006
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 7: So it would probably end up with nine competitive districts

1007
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 7: with still a heavy Republican tilt, sure, and that's because

1008
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 7: most of the Democrats in southern Indiana have become Republicans.

1009
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Speaker 7: They were the conservative blue dog Democrats, and that has

1010
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 7: made us, a super majority state for a long time,

1011
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 7: used to be more balanced, and I don't think they're

1012
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 7: going to come burn back to the other way. And

1013
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 7: that's because the d that they used to associate with,

1014
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 7: maybe Kennedy Democrats, they're all gone. I mean when you

1015
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 7: look at the new squad Jasmine Crockett, AOC and Mandami, Yeah.

1016
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 3: The mayor running from New York.

1017
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 7: I mean, now that is frightening. So they've got their

1018
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 7: own issue. And Democrats across the country are less popular

1019
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 7: than Republicans, but there's a lot of angst among I

1020
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 7: think voters in general because they see things not getting

1021
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 7: done at the federal level. We're blessed here in this state.

1022
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 7: We got a healthy economy and you don't have to

1023
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 7: have sixty senators to agree to something to get anything done.

1024
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 7: And I think by and large, uh, you know, the

1025
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 7: state economy is gonna has been doing well. I've been

1026
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 7: at three or four ribbon cutting events, and let's see,

1027
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 7: Pillar is putting four hundred thousand square feet in addition

1028
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 7: to their one point three million. They haven't Lafayette just

1029
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 7: was out in Brownsburg one point six million square foot

1030
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 7: logistics center from Harper Collins who's a sister company to

1031
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 7: News Corp, you know, the Fox media moguls.

1032
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 3: So and wages good with jobs in Indiana.

1033
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 7: Wages are actually better than where they were over the

1034
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 7: last year. We've focused on high wages and growth in

1035
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 7: whoever comes in. And the other good news is where

1036
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 7: they were spending nearly fifty five thousand per incentivized job.

1037
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 7: We've got that down the closer to sixteen thousand.

1038
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 4: Because a lot of people will say, Okay, adding jobs

1039
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 4: is great, but how are the wages?

1040
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 3: How are the real wages doing?

1041
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 7: The wages since we've been in office have gone from

1042
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 7: roughly thirty six to forty one. That's a big jump.

1043
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 4: Speaking with the Governor Mike Brawn here on the Hammer

1044
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 4: of Nigel Show, Well, I.

1045
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 3: Just one more thing on this and you can move

1046
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 3: on to different because I definitely want to talk about

1047
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 3: the turning Point USA event last night down at Bloomington.

1048
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 3: But when the Vice President of the United States comes

1049
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 3: down to visit Indiana, do you sit with him one

1050
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 3: on one and just hash things out, have discussions in

1051
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 3: your office? Is that what it's like and what are

1052
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 3: the substance of those conversations.

1053
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 7: A lot of times that would have been the dynamic.

1054
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 7: And then knowing that he knows me, I know him,

1055
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 7: his heavy lifting was going to be with the legislature. Yeah,

1056
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 7: because I said all along, yes, when we get there,

1057
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 7: and I told him, you need to make the case no,

1058
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 7: come in and you know, try to ram it through.

1059
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 7: And when you come in twice, you're given time for

1060
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 7: them to stew on it. When you get the call

1061
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 7: from the President last Friday, and that should have taken

1062
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 7: all the mystery out of what the White House wants

1063
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 7: to do. And when you look at why they want

1064
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 7: to do it, it's the even the playing field. And

1065
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 7: all the complaining we've had here have been from Democrats

1066
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 7: and liberal independence mostly and then Republicans. I think mostly

1067
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 7: we're just uncomfortable with doing it out of sequence, and

1068
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 7: of course it's perfectly legal to do it, and it's

1069
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 7: done often, and again it's rich for the other side

1070
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 7: to complain about it when they've been the masters of it.

1071
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 4: Governor, did you get the impression that the White House

1072
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 4: was putting pressure on the Indiana Senate almost as if Hey,

1073
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 4: if you guys don't play ball, don't be surprised if

1074
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 4: we put some money behind some primary challenging.

1075
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 7: Well, I think they're making the point that this is

1076
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 7: important to them, and I think they're whipping their own vote,

1077
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 7: which is a synonym for counting in the political world,

1078
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 7: and I think they'll keep doing that. They feel good

1079
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 7: that they're there, and the Senate itself has been kind

1080
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 7: of a closed mouth about it, but they know it's

1081
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 7: been moving in that direction too. So I think we're

1082
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 7: getting close. And this is very similar to what I

1083
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 7: thought would happen and how long it would take, and

1084
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 7: we still got plenty of time to get it done.

1085
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 4: How was that event last night down in Bloomington with

1086
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 4: Tucker Carlson the turning point event?

1087
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 7: Well, I had time to revisit with Tucker and we

1088
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 7: talked for about ten minutes. It was mostly on hunting, trees, forestry,

1089
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 7: those kinds of topics. I think he's living in Maine

1090
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 7: and he brought his two bird dogs along and I

1091
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 7: think they were on stage.

1092
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 4: He was hunting right before I think he came to Indiana.

1093
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what he indicated. So I think what I

1094
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 7: felt in that auditorium and interesting. The only time I

1095
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Speaker 7: think I've been there before was a shan on a

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Speaker 7: concert back when I was in college, and of course

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01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 7: they were builting that ac DC with that audience, and

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01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 7: the audience was very energetic. That was a house full

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Speaker 7: of conservatives mostly, And what I love is what Charlie

1100
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 7: stood for, don't be embarrassed, a faith, family, and community.

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01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 7: That's what I've always run on. It seems like even

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01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 7: the youngest of the generations are now starting to put

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01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 7: two and two together. I don't think a liberal group

1104
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 7: could fill up an auditorium with that many people, and

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01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 7: there were many that couldn't get into it. And it's

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Speaker 7: based upon values that Republicans have always said they'refore but

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01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 7: we've not been very voiceful for it. Charlie represented that

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01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 7: he would take on that Q and A and that's

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01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 7: kind of what Tucker did. And you got to be

1110
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 7: in a position I set it to the crowd. There.

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Speaker 7: You learn a lot from people you disagree with, You

1112
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 7: know where they're coming from, and you need to be

1113
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 7: able to counter point, counter punch. And my experience in

1114
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 7: DC was Republicans were generally weak at that didn't want

1115
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 7: to do it. And I think that was Trump's forte.

1116
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 4: Last thing here. We want to be respectful of your time.

1117
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 4: But I did want to ask you about the utility

1118
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Speaker 4: rates debate and also the iu RC selection process.

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Speaker 7: So we made that again very open. I think we

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Speaker 7: had roughly forty seven individuals that wanted to do it.

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Speaker 7: We will narrow it down. There has to be a

1122
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 7: Democrat and two Republicans among that. That's a commission that

1123
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 7: has to be have some balance politically. So we got

1124
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 7: a lot of good choices to choose among bo.

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Speaker 3: Me thim ever, ring my name in the ring? Who

1126
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 3: do you name in the hand?

1127
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Speaker 11: Me?

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Speaker 7: Oh? You okay, not to know you have to go

1129
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 7: through the vetting, you know, yeah.

1130
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 3: All right, never mind forget I asked a question.

1131
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 7: So this is one issue that I don't think has

1132
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 7: snuck up on anyone. You compare it to property taxes.

1133
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 7: You've got five monopolies that run most of the electric

1134
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 7: generation in the state, and you've got Wabash and Hoosier

1135
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 7: Energy that supply most of the energy to the r E.

1136
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 7: MC's little difference there, but in general, rate payers across

1137
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 7: the state have felt what many others have with Biden's

1138
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 7: inflation and the fact that we've probably been not represented

1139
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 7: well on the iu RC for rate payers. And first

1140
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 7: thing I could do to weigh in on. That was

1141
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 7: Abby Gray for the OUCC Customer Consumer Counselor, and you

1142
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 7: know what she recommended on the a EES. You're not

1143
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 7: getting an increase. We think you ought to decrease rates,

1144
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 7: right And.

1145
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 4: I although ES is still trying to raise up rates.

1146
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 7: But that doesn't happen until the iu r C would

1147
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 7: agree to it. You've seen when there's been some discussion

1148
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 7: among city politicians weighing in on it, and I think

1149
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 7: now there's a course generally that will reflect that and

1150
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 7: the iu r C will be the eventual arbiters of

1151
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 7: it have to make the decision, and I hope to

1152
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:36,919
Speaker 7: get a commission balanced with rate payers getting as much

1153
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 7: interest in what happens as what utilities have in the past.

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01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 4: Have you had any conversations with anybody at AES or

1155
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 4: even maybe black Rock if they are going to finalize

1156
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Speaker 4: this transaction.

1157
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 7: Lots because they know that there's a different dynamic out there,

1158
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 7: not to mention data centers and all of that. You know,

1159
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 7: we just had the dust up on one trying to

1160
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 7: go in on the east side of Indy, so there's

1161
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 7: a lot of complicated dynamics there. But I think even

1162
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 7: there you're going to have the people that do do

1163
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 7: data centers are going to be paying for their electric generation,

1164
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 7: hopefully adding some to the grid. They're all well healed

1165
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 7: that want to do it. Rate Payers need relief, and

1166
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 7: you start there by getting a commission. It's going to

1167
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 7: be paying attention to their needs.

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Speaker 4: Governor, thank you so much for coming by. We always

1169
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 4: appreciate your time, and we appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: You're very welcome, Happy to do it.

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Speaker 4: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.

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Speaker 3: All right, Hammer the attorneys for Mark Sanchez, but Fumble,

1173
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 3: former quarterback for the Jets. They're in Marion County today

1174
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 3: for a pre trial conference. Mark he's out on like

1175
01:05:55,080 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 3: three hundred dollars cash bond wasn't required to appear. He's

1176
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 3: still recovering from his STA stab wounds. I don't know

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01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 3: where he's at see California. Is probably back in California.

1178
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 3: His wife is one of the chicks in that show

1179
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 3: Chad Powers that's streaming on Hulu. I need to watch that,

1180
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 3: Like she's.

1181
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 4: The coach's daughter character. I mean, she's attractive, hot woman,

1182
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 4: and yet we still don't know what Mark Sanchez was

1183
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 4: looking to do in the streets of Indianapolis. But this

1184
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 4: was like a five minute deal today Niche.

1185
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Speaker 3: Well, I can you reset why Mark Mark Sanchez was

1186
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 3: here to call the Colts game for Fox but the Raiders, yes,

1187
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 3: and he ended up getting into it with some old

1188
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 3: man who was working who was working like changing out

1189
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 3: recycled oil for the restaurants. Right, And there's some video

1190
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 3: that's out there now.

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01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 4: Now it's black and white and it's kind of grainy,

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01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 4: but Sanchez has seen like kind of walking around this alley.

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01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 4: Next thing you know, he's sprinting like back and forth.

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01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 4: At one point he tries to get into the worker's

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Speaker 4: vehicle and that's when a struggle ensues and the worker,

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Speaker 4: which is an older guy, a guy that's swell into

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01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 4: his sixties, stabs Sanchez. But at the same time he

1198
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 4: gets roughed up pretty good. And then there's video of

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Speaker 4: a very bloody Mark Sanchez walking through the streets of Indy.

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Speaker 4: It's a bizarre thing we still don't have answers to

1201
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 4: and I'm surprised nothing is leaked out at this point.

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01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 4: It's odd when something doesn't leak out. But we don't

1203
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 4: know why Mark Sanchez was in the alley. We don't

1204
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 4: know what he was, if anything was under the influence

1205
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 4: on And the pre trial conference was today one of them,

1206
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 4: just five minutes, and now we've got a court trial

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Speaker 4: schedule for December eleven.

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Speaker 3: We'll say he seemed very contrite and very sad and downtrodden.

1209
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 3: When I think it was Fox fifty nine, I think

1210
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 3: it was what's his face McQuaid. McQuaid was the only

1211
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 3: person there with a microphone in his face.

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01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 4: Did he asked him about gun control? Did he quote

1213
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 4: rock lyrics.

1214
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 3: Mister Sanchez, if you would have had a gun, would

1215
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 3: you have shot him? Because there is constitutional to carry No.

1216
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 3: I man Sanchez looked bad. He looked like he just

1217
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 3: wanted to get home, right. But I don't know what happened,

1218
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 3: And I really don't know what the victim was the

1219
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 3: quote unquote victim. I mean, you saw those pictures of

1220
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 3: him in the hospital. He got ruffed up at roughed

1221
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 3: up pretty cool bad And we've heard from friends of

1222
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 3: the victim come out and say, this guy is the

1223
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 3: most nice, sweet human baby. A number of years ago,

1224
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 3: his sister in law was shot while working overnight at

1225
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 3: a village pantry here in Indy. He did the.

1226
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 4: Media rounds back then, this was like a decade ago

1227
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 4: speaking to TV stations, and here he is, you know,

1228
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 4: just a decade later, he's in the news for stabbing

1229
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 4: a crazy Mark Sanchez, at least according to the charges,

1230
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 4: for trying to steal his car.

1231
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 3: And self defense. So what's the charge with Mark Sanchez?

1232
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:39,839
Speaker 4: Charged with one count of battery resulting in serious bodily injury.

1233
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 4: That's a level five felony misdemeanor battery resulting in bodily injury,

1234
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 4: misdemeanor count of unortho unorthodox injury into a motor vehicle,

1235
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 4: unauthorized misdemeanor count of public intox uh when the defendant

1236
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 4: endangers the life of another. So the next big date

1237
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 4: on the calendar, there's one more pre trial conference, but

1238
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 4: December eleventh is the tentative date of the jury trial

1239
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 4: for Mark Sanchez.

1240
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 3: In the holidays. That sucks. You know what else sucks?

1241
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 4: Getting stabbed and punched by a lunatic Mark Sanchez when

1242
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 4: he's out of control in downtown Indy when you're just

1243
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 4: trying to go to work. That sucks too. One of

1244
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 4: my favorite posts that I saw was, like you mentioned

1245
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 4: that interview. I think it was Fox fifty nine, where

1246
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 4: Mark Sanchez is walking very gingerly and it sounds very contrivete,

1247
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 4: and he gets in the car and drives away. Someone

1248
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,480
Speaker 4: made a statement that said, I would take Mark Sanchez

1249
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 4: in this condition right now over justin Fields to be

1250
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 4: the Jets quarterback.

1251
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 3: Life comes at you fast, it sure as hell does.

1252
01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 4: We've been talking about this all afternoon, but down in

1253
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 4: last night Turning Point USA event, this was supposed to

1254
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 4: be Charlie Kirk speaking to students. Charlie was assassinated in

1255
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 4: Utah September tenth, so Tucker Carlson filled in last night

1256
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 4: and he was doing the Q and A with the

1257
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:21,759
Speaker 4: IU students. Someone brought up the Epstein list and whether

1258
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 4: or not Donald Trump is a part of it.

1259
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 2: I've never thought it was really about Trump. I don't

1260
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 2: know that anyone's put forth credible allegations about his personal behavior.

1261
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 2: Maybe I missed it, but Gleyne Mack, you know, whatever

1262
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 2: we can get in the I mean, I know actually

1263
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 2: a lot about the case. What I'm really bothered by

1264
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 2: is I think it's both inherently important. I think there

1265
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 2: were a lot of people involved in this whose names

1266
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 2: you know, who have a great deal of power in

1267
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 2: American society and internationally, including a former prime minister of

1268
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 2: another country who has been accused of rape credibly, Bill Gates.

1269
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a lot of people, right, and I

1270
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 2: think it's fair to know what you're are doing, like,

1271
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 2: and I don't think.

1272
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 5: There should be I hate cover ups.

1273
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 2: I think, as I noted before, the deep state is

1274
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 2: one hundred percent reel. The Epstein story intersects with that

1275
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 2: in really profound ways. And if you don't tell the

1276
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 2: truth about it, most people probably you reach the conclusion

1277
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: like the system is so rigged, no one will ever

1278
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 2: tell me the truth about anything.

1279
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 3: So that's a little bit. And this goes on for

1280
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:23,759
Speaker 3: a couple of minutes.

1281
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 4: You know, Tucker and the IU students, they have a

1282
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 4: little back and forth. Here's a little bit more.

1283
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 9: Do you believe that the Epstein files will ever get

1284
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,839
Speaker 9: released in entirety?

1285
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to be boring about this, but I

1286
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:37,799
Speaker 2: did a long, like three hour.

1287
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 5: Show on this last month.

1288
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 2: I don't think there are strictly speaking, Epstein files. So actually,

1289
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: the government gathered a shockingly small amount of evidence in

1290
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 2: the original case, which is insane to me. So how

1291
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 2: did that happen like I want to know that. I

1292
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: wonder how justice was perverted consistently along the line a B.

1293
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 2: I want to know who murdered him in federal lockup Manhattan.

1294
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 5: He was murdered. He did not kill himself. And I'm

1295
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 5: not guessing.

1296
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 2: I'm not like playing the meme game like Epstein didn't

1297
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 2: kill himself.

1298
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 5: Epstein actually didn't kill himself. He was murdered. But think

1299
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 5: about that for a second.

1300
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 2: Who could get in to the most secure part of

1301
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 2: the Federal detention center in downtown Manhattan.

1302
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 5: Who could do that?

1303
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 2: And the former Attorney General of the United States, Barr

1304
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 2: Bill Barr, covered.

1305
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:25,799
Speaker 1: Up his murder.

1306
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 2: And we know that for a fact, as he said

1307
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 2: in his memoir and at the time his first instruction

1308
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 2: to his staff at DJ when Epstein was found dead

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Speaker 2: in his cell, we can't let anyone think this was

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Speaker 2: a murder.

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01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 5: Well, you haven't done the investigation yet.

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01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 2: So rule one in law enforcement is and in journalism,

1313
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 2: by the way, we don't draw conclusions before the evidence

1314
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 2: arrives because we could be wrong. Also, science, like any

1315
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,719
Speaker 2: honest undertaking, requires you to find out what happened before

1316
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 2: you make a judgment about it.

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01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 5: And he didn't, and he was.

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01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 2: He was part of the cover up, and he's thtarting

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01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 2: to assume me for saying that.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead.

1321
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 4: The thing about the Epstein triune, my love Bill Moore.

1322
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 4: The thing about the Epstein files. Right, every leftist, when

1323
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 4: they're trying to get over on a Republican, get over

1324
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 4: on a conservative, throw a Zinger in there. Trump was

1325
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 4: part of the Epstein files. Release the Epstein files.

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01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

1327
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 4: People like us conservatives, we want all the files released too,

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01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 4: because if you've got two eyes in a functioning brain,

1329
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 4: you know Donald Trump is not a part of it.

1330
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 4: Had he been a part of it, the Komey family,

1331
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 4: which was the prosecutor in the Gleain Maxwell case, would

1332
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 4: have absolutely thrown him under the bus during an election year.

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01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 4: If you don't think otherwise, you're naive and you're a moron.

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Speaker 3: Totally.

1335
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 4: So clearly Trump was not a part of it. But

1336
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 4: if there's somebody that he's covering up for, we all

1337
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 4: want to find out too. If not some sort of

1338
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 4: Zinger's not some sort of own will your boys covering

1339
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 4: up the Epstein files, we want it out there too.

1340
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 4: I've been very critical of Donald Trump about this very

1341
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 4: critical of Pambondi and cash Betel at all of them,

1342
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,520
Speaker 4: every single one of them. Before we hit a break here,

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01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 4: I think we need some Halloween stuff, really, pumpkins, candy, costumes,

1344
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:31,719
Speaker 4: Halloween stuff. According to a new survey, most single people

1345
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:39,440
Speaker 4: say the loneliest holiday is Halloween actually worse than Valentine's

1346
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 4: Day or Christmas?

1347
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:41,839
Speaker 3: Really?

1348
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 4: Seven percent say Halloween. This is according to a survey

1349
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 4: from dating dot com, oh No, fifty nine percent of

1350
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 4: single people say Halloween is one of the hardest days

1351
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 4: of the year. Fifty seven percent say it's worse than

1352
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 4: Valentine's Day to be single, Nearly eighty eight zero percent

1353
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 4: admit to feeling lonely on October thirty first, and some

1354
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 4: say they've cried after opening the door to see families

1355
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 4: and trigger treaters. So why do we think this is

1356
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 4: Why do we think this is possible? Explanations? Number one,

1357
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 4: Halloween is built around groups. There's trick or treating kids,

1358
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 4: there's parties, couple's costumes, families hanging out together, neighborhood parties

1359
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 4: right or number two even for people who are low key,

1360
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,480
Speaker 4: A lot of us celebrate Halloween by watching scary movies.

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01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 4: Or making festive foods and treats, which kind of sucks

1362
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 4: if you're by yourself. So do you buy the argument

1363
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 4: that for singles, Halloween is more depressing than Valentine's Day?

1364
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 3: I don't. If you have kids when you're single, maybe

1365
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 3: that's a different story.

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01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 4: What this is about. So singles, Allison, there's no ring

1367
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 4: on your finger, So let me defer to you here.

1368
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 4: Are you way more of a pain in the ass

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01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 4: on Halloween than Valentine's Day?

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01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 3: First off, rude.

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Speaker 12: Second off, it makes me sad that people, I mean,

1373
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 12: you know, just because you're single, you can still do

1374
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 12: those things. I mean I have so many friends that

1375
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 12: I mean go to parties together and big groups hang out.

1376
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 12: I can't see maybe if you maybe are older and

1377
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 12: you wished you had a family by now, and like

1378
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 12: you're opening the door and you see these happy families

1379
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 12: and you're like, shoot, when is that going to be me?

1380
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 12: I could see that happening, and that is a little sad.

1381
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 3: I feel bad for them.

1382
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 4: What's the age at that point? Like, what age are

1383
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 4: you talking about?

1384
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 12: I don't know, Probably thirties, Okay, maybe I don't know,

1385
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 12: but it could be anybody.

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Speaker 4: I mean, but do you understand why some would say

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01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 4: if you stand, yeah, I could see it worse than

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01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 4: Valentine's Day because Valentine's Day is a whole day about

1389
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Speaker 4: love and getting lucky.

1390
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:57,959
Speaker 3: Totally.

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01:17:58,240 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, but I think a lot of people don't celebrate

1392
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 12: Valentine's Day as much in your face as literally coming

1393
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 12: up to your door knocking on it.

1394
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 4: Dude, I've been married for almost twenty three years. We

1395
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 4: hate Valentine's Day in our house. Yeah.

1396
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 12: I think that's a little more low key than Halloween.

1397
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 4: Just a freaking Hallmark holiday where you have to act

1398
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 4: like on social media you're so in love while the

1399
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 4: other three hundred and sixty four days you hate everything

1400
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 4: about your life. I think it's crap.

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01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 3: I love Valentine's Day. Let's go back to that story.

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01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 4: We just had people saying that's Halloween more depressing than

1403
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 4: Valentine's Day. For singles, we've put together an attack ad. Okay,

1404
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 4: an attack ad on Halloween. I know there's not a

1405
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 4: big election coming up this year, but writing attack ads

1406
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 4: has always been like my passion project.

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Speaker 3: Here's one for Halloween.

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01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 13: October thirty. First vote no on Halloween. Halloween supports dangerous

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01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 13: roving gangs of children going door to door to get

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01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 13: their fix. When it comes to healthcare, Halloween doesn't care.

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01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 13: Under Halloween, tooth decay rates have doubled and instances of

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01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 13: child obesity have skyrocketed. Halloween is deceptive. Sure it may

1413
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 13: look like a sexy firefighter, but don't count on Halloween

1414
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 13: if your house is burning down, Ryan, Halloween is not

1415
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 13: a legal holiday. If Halloween had its choice, it would

1416
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 13: allow for more illegal holidays to invade and take over

1417
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 13: your calendar. Don't be tricked. Halloween is no treat. This

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01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 13: October thirty first vote no on Halloween paid for by Thanksgiving.

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01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 13: By Thanksgiving, and I approve this message.

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Speaker 4: Say there you go. It's not even a real holiday.

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01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 3: Fine, it's the Hammer and Nigel Show. Are you really okay?

1422
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 12: Are all thanks going to be okay?

1423
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 3: Are you pay? Yeah?

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01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 4: I'm fine.

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01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 7: I'm pretty freeing far from okay?

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01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 1: Are you okay?

1427
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 3: With this?

1428
01:19:58,360 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 11: On?

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01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 3: The Hammer and Nigel? A so Hammer? A new app

1430
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 3: called Endless Summer. Endless Summer uses AI to create fake

1431
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 3: photos so it looks like you went on vacation. That's

1432
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 3: so sad. It's always. There's also a Halloween mode that

1433
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 3: puts you in costume, so you look like you dressed

1434
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 3: up and went to a party. Are you okay with this? No?

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01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 4: This is ridiculous. This is stupid. As a matter of fact,

1436
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 4: if I'm going to do something ai with Halloween, I

1437
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 4: don't want to make it look like I'm at some

1438
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 4: sort of costume contest or I'm surrounded by friends. I

1439
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,679
Speaker 4: want it to be like something from a scary movie

1440
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 4: or something. Right, I've seen a bunch of videos out

1441
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,719
Speaker 4: there featuring the Scream movie.

1442
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 3: So nudge Jimmy a favor.

1443
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 4: Go to the Hammer in Nigel Show Twitter right now

1444
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 4: at Hammer and Nigel. Okay, you're starring in what appears

1445
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,759
Speaker 4: to be a remake of one of the Scream movies.

1446
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 4: Take a look at it. Allison's watching it right now.

1447
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 4: It's you staring into a mirror.

1448
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: See.

1449
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 4: I'd much rather see that than somebody saying, I am

1450
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:19,560
Speaker 4: I'm terrifying.

1451
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 3: Oh my, how did you look terrified in the in

1452
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 3: the video?

1453
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 4: Well, as he should, although I think the Scream guy's

1454
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 4: being a little gentle. It looks like he's just wafting

1455
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 4: your hair. So if he's a bad barber, if you

1456
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 4: want to see what we're talking about, follow us on

1457
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 4: Twitter at Hammer and Nigel and uh just look for

1458
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,879
Speaker 4: the top post or the one right below it Nigel

1459
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 4: on Halloween.

1460
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 3: I'm not going to show that to my kids. That

1461
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 3: will mess them up.

1462
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 4: Although really he's just helping you with your hair, and

1463
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 4: your hair looks great.

1464
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 3: Hammer Nigel Show. Hello, my name is Nigel Jason Hammer

1465
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 3: right over there with a very special guest on the He's.

1466
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 4: An investigative reporter for The Daily Signal and the host

1467
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 4: of the Tony Kennitt cast seven o'clock right after our

1468
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 4: show here at ninety three WIBC. He is the tonas

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01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 4: Tony Kennett and Tony. I'm surprised you actually have the

1470
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 4: energy to speak with us today because I know how

1471
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 4: much time and energy you spent at the No King's

1472
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 4: rallies over the weekend.

1473
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 11: Well, I mean, of course, and after all, not only

1474
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 11: do you have the No Kings protests, you have the

1475
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 11: three or four monkey pox procedures afterward.

1476
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, very very important.

1477
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 11: To get checked after you go to one of those

1478
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 11: kind of events.

1479
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 4: As you know, you've been a very busy man protesting

1480
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 4: with the No King's rallies and the fact that Donald

1481
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 4: Trump's doing construction at the White House. So thank you

1482
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,719
Speaker 4: so much for manning up and joining us today.

1483
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 3: Let's stick with the No Kings for just a second,

1484
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 3: and then I do want to get to the White

1485
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 3: House and how like the liberal media is losing their

1486
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 3: minds over Donald Trump's construction over there. What was the

1487
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 3: point of the No King's rally do you think? In

1488
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 3: your opinion?

1489
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 11: So well, I mean we can actually ask them why

1490
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 11: they were out protesting, and the best part was they

1491
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 11: didn't actually give us an answer. They don't like Donald Trump, Okay,

1492
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 11: I hear you, yeah, but what are you protesting though,

1493
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 11: And they're like, well, we're protesting kings okay, but what

1494
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 11: does that have to do with Donald Trump? They're like, well,

1495
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 11: he's breaking laws. Okay, which laws is he breaking? They're like, well,

1496
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 11: he's he's a really just stinky orange man.

1497
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 1: Oh okay, that's great. Back to the old folks home

1498
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: for you, Chryl, thanks for joining us.

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01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 3: You know what I thought. I thought one of the

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Speaker 3: other aspects of these No King's rallies is like they

1501
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 3: hate the rich, they hate the billionaires, but don't they

1502
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 3: understand that it was Soros and other billionaire you know,

1503
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 3: build Gates and things like that, people like that that

1504
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 3: are funding these rallies, these that puts on the No

1505
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,600
Speaker 3: Kings demonstrations.

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01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 11: I mean, I personally find it funny that the Ford Foundation,

1507
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 11: Tides Foundation, Gates Foundation, the Waltons, then of course all

1508
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 11: of the classic usual actors. Of course, Soros, Open Society Foundation,

1509
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 11: Hans org Weis, the fantastic Swiss billionaire who also funds

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01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 11: the Indiana Capitol Chronicle. You know, those billionaires just so

1511
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 11: happened to also funnel a bunch of money into the

1512
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 11: thing they say they hate. Well, look, I'm just gonna

1513
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 11: say I like having ideological standards. I like the same

1514
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 11: thing that I liked yesterday that I like tomorrow. Maybe

1515
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 11: that's because I'm an old man at heart. I'm not

1516
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,719
Speaker 11: gonna say I hate billionaires yesterday and then go take

1517
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 11: their money the next day. But I guess you know

1518
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 11: that's not a standard.

1519
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 4: And look, I'm cool with people protesting peacefully, that's fine,

1520
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 4: But again, what was the purpose? What would you say

1521
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 4: you accomplished here? Like Tony in Indy, if those people

1522
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 4: at the State House would have walked over to the

1523
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 4: AES building and demanded better rates, I'd have been like.

1524
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 3: Hell, yeah, let's go protest aes. But it was no Kings.

1525
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 4: Well, congratulations, there's no kings in America now why?

1526
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: Okay? Okay?

1527
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 11: To be fair, the State House is ethnically closer to

1528
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 11: the AARP.

1529
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 1: Building, so.

1530
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 11: You gotta think they only have so much energy to walk,

1531
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 11: these elderly folks, and it just so happens picking up

1532
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 11: the AARP and you know, going to getting their free

1533
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 11: I guess what their free pacemaker is more exciting.

1534
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1535
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the main demographic. It seemed like the

1536
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:24,480
Speaker 3: boomer generation saying we're gonna go back to the sixties.

1537
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 11: Man, don't forget brother, don't forget young gay people and

1538
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 11: inflatable mouse costumes really bring it.

1539
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. I saw one of your

1540
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 3: reporters from Daily Signal interviewing in.

1541
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: A gay mouse costume.

1542
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 3: Excuse you, she wasn't of the costume, but she was interviewing.

1543
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 3: I think we played the audio hammer of this absolutely

1544
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 3: vile woman talking about Charlie Kirk and how she was

1545
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:52,879
Speaker 3: glad he was dead and that he was a Nazi?

1546
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 3: Is that par for the course of these demonstrations. That

1547
01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 3: kind of ugliness, that kind of attitude or is it more?

1548
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 3: I mean, you've been to a dozen and dozens and

1549
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 3: dozens of these types of protests. It's all shaped, sizes

1550
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 3: and forms of ugliness, isn't it.

1551
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 7: Oh?

1552
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean it really is.

1553
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 11: You get an old bitter lady, you put her in

1554
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 11: one of those zorro hats that Southern women still think

1555
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 11: are in fashion, and then you get her out there

1556
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 11: on the street and you say, hey, what do you

1557
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,799
Speaker 11: think about like just normal, regular Christian conservative men, And they're.

1558
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 1: Like, megdam but I'm a normal person.

1559
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 11: And there's the same person who has the just be

1560
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 11: kind sign in their front yard. Sure, sure, and they

1561
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 11: don't realize that the rest of the country finds them

1562
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 11: disdainful and discussing. There was the Chicago elementary school teacher

1563
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 11: making the blood spurting from the neck sign to mock

1564
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:49,520
Speaker 11: Charlie's assassination.

1565
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 1: She's now been removed again.

1566
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 11: If you want to say you hate Republicans, you don't

1567
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 11: like the right, cool, that's fine. I'm not fond of

1568
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 11: the left, I hear you. But you don't have to

1569
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:00,759
Speaker 11: go out there and say, you know what, I really

1570
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 11: like it when they die. That doesn't endear you to anyone,

1571
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 11: You're just a scummy person.

1572
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 9: Hey.

1573
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 4: And speaking of Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA was in

1574
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 4: Bloomington last night. I used Campus, let's be honest, pretty

1575
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 4: hotbed for liberal activity. Tucker Carlson was filling in for

1576
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 4: the late Charlie Kirk. You were there, Tony, walk me

1577
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 4: through what you saw.

1578
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 11: Well, first of all, there were about fifteen I guess

1579
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 11: it's Bloomington. I have to differentiate extra LGBTQ people that

1580
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 11: were there that evening, and my poor producer Nick said

1581
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 11: that they smelled like parental disappointment.

1582
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 1: I haven't tied it yet if that's a.

1583
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 11: Piss or weed or a mix of the two. But AnyWho,

1584
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 11: they didn't really bother anyone. Tucker did a pretty good

1585
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 11: job in the Q and A Tucker says some things

1586
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 11: that I'm not a huge fan of. But Tucker and

1587
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 11: I are friendly, and we got to chat a little

1588
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 11: bit beforehand, a little bit after, and I was first

1589
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 11: of all, that was the most entertaining hour I've had.

1590
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 11: We were making basically fools out of ourselves.

1591
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 1: Down in there in the front.

1592
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 11: We were giving the coffee shop beat poetry snaps to

1593
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 11: some of the stupid questions. At one point, Tucker said,

1594
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 11: you know, I don't care if you're a queer from

1595
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 11: the Midwest. You know, that'll probably help you get into

1596
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 11: law school. And the lady asking the question goes, I'm

1597
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 11: a queer from the Midwest, and he dude, we just

1598
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 11: lost it.

1599
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: It was a really good time. What can I say.

1600
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 11: TPUSA knows what they're doing with these events. Everyone had

1601
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 11: a really enjoyable time.

1602
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 4: And you know what, hat tip to security because Ryan

1603
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 4: Hedrick from the WIBC newsroom talk to us yesterday. You're

1604
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 4: telling this story now. I honestly thought there would be

1605
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 4: way more protesters at IU, like I remember what they

1606
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 4: did when you know, the Jewish students just wanted to

1607
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 4: go to class and they were making an ass of

1608
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:53,480
Speaker 4: themselves on campus. I thought there'd be way more activity

1609
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 4: than that last night.

1610
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,679
Speaker 11: So interesting that you say this, because there was one

1611
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 11: person who was actually sitting caddy corner to me and

1612
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 11: Representative Andrew Ireland who rushed the stage before anyone got

1613
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 11: out there. Actually, Producer Nick props to him. He called

1614
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 11: it out. He said, this person is Jackson? Really weird?

1615
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 11: Tony and I looked over and I was busy trying

1616
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 11: to get the show set up. So that's again that's

1617
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 11: maybe in transparent, I probably should have paid closer attention.

1618
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:21,719
Speaker 11: About three seconds later, she bolts towards the stage, she's

1619
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 11: wearing like an old, big, overgrown kind of green raincoat,

1620
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 11: leaves some kind of a book that she had bookmarked

1621
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 11: on the podium, and then she sprints out of the room.

1622
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 11: And from the analysis, it looks like she knew what

1623
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 11: was the layout, like maybe a theater major kind of

1624
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 11: a thing, because she knew exactly where to go to

1625
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 11: leave immediately, which door wasn't guarded by police. And this

1626
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 11: is why I bring that up. The security guard did

1627
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 11: immediately walk up take the book away, which I think

1628
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 11: is a bad idea because you don't know if like

1629
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 11: something was on the front cover, like maybe an overdose event.

1630
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 11: You gotta be careful. I will say that, yeah, you

1631
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 11: it's not safe enough. Yet that was a slip. That

1632
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 11: was a mistake that could have been terrible. Wow, the

1633
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:07,879
Speaker 11: security was okay, And I don't blame this on TPUs,

1634
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 11: So I blame this on Indiana University. Last night was

1635
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:14,799
Speaker 11: safe because there was not an active threat that took place.

1636
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 11: So Indiana University Police, Indiana university staff need to step

1637
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 11: up because there was a major flaw last night. Thank

1638
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 11: god she just left a book on that podium, or

1639
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 11: it could have been a lot worse.

1640
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:28,680
Speaker 3: And by the way, just overall and we can move on.

1641
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,679
Speaker 3: What was the point of last night and turning point USA?

1642
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 3: What was the message from Mike Braun and Tucker Carlson.

1643
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: Oh, those are two different things.

1644
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 11: Mike Broun got up there and look. I like Mike,

1645
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 11: I do, but I it just it gets under my

1646
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 11: skin when I don't know, maybe it's because I grew

1647
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 11: up kind of naturally charismatic. I don't get the politician

1648
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 11: getting up there. Mike is a very relaxed hoosier. Mike

1649
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 11: is the kind of guy who will sit on the

1650
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 11: porch and watch the corn grow.

1651
01:30:57,880 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 1: Kind of a guy. I love him as salts of

1652
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 1: the earth. Not my style.

1653
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 11: He did, okay, I wanted him to get I actually

1654
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 11: came very close to Heckley Mike Braun, just to be

1655
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:11,639
Speaker 11: very transparent, I almost shouted redistricts now while he was speaking.

1656
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 11: And I have no problem saying that to his calm staff.

1657
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 11: Who I know we're listening to the show right now.

1658
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 11: I'm just saying you should have focused on redistricting and

1659
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 11: kind of rallied the crowd.

1660
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: He didn't.

1661
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 11: He focused on free market stuff, which is not really

1662
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 11: what the conservative movement is like up in arms about

1663
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 11: right now.

1664
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 1: But he did a good job.

1665
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 11: Tucker just got up to ask questions, because that's what

1666
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 11: Charlie did, was have questions. Tucker could have spoke last night,

1667
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 11: and given that that's kind of contentious in today's conservative movement,

1668
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 11: given some of his opinions on some things, I think

1669
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 11: he could have done that and it.

1670
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 1: Would have been okay. But he made the decision to say, no,

1671
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to do what Charlie did, and we're gonna

1672
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 1: have a Q and A.

1673
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 11: And I got to say again, I had more fun

1674
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 11: last night listening to that than I think I have

1675
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 11: since the last time I was in studio with you

1676
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 11: guys on a beer sample Friday.

1677
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 3: I was it last night or the night or I

1678
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 3: don't know what I was watching, but you had some

1679
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 3: you played a clip of and I have it here

1680
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:09,679
Speaker 3: with me. This the crazy snap Lady. Can you give

1681
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:11,640
Speaker 3: me some context for this? Does this have to do

1682
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:12,560
Speaker 3: with the shutdown?

1683
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 11: It was last night, but Obama somehow got our show,

1684
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 11: like internet shutdown, so it kind of crashed. But what

1685
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,719
Speaker 11: we did end up getting it up last night. Snap

1686
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 11: food stamps are gonna run out in November because the

1687
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 11: Democrats have the government shut down. Well, there's one lady

1688
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 11: who is mad about it, and so she recorded a

1689
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 11: video that I think has more censor bleeps than a

1690
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 11: Jerry Bringer rerun.

1691
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, be careful if there's young kids in the car.

1692
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 3: We've got it bleeped here but there. But she's upset

1693
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 3: that the Snap benefits or some of those are going

1694
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:44,799
Speaker 3: to run out in November.

1695
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:49,680
Speaker 11: Correct, Yeah, she's she's rather incensed.

1696
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 3: One might say, all right, here we.

1697
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 4: Go, Donald, mother porchman, Jay Trump.

1698
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take it just like this.

1699
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:56,360
Speaker 1: What the fuck you mean?

1700
01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 10: Who I getting again again? No, Vimba, because I'm getting

1701
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 10: her gad. I don't know about the rest of you, motherfuckers,

1702
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 10: but I'm getting mushed because I'm gonna tell you just

1703
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 10: like this, I will be at the Walmart. Wouldn't my

1704
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 10: steel toes on and my mother help me? And I

1705
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 10: care of trying to stop me from walking out that

1706
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 10: mother my grocery.

1707
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 3: Lell be positive right there? Did she just say, like

1708
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna You're gonna see me at Walmart with my

1709
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,679
Speaker 3: steel toed shoes on and a helmet, and I'm gonna

1710
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 3: get my groceries, basically confessing that she's planning on stealing.

1711
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 3: Is that Did I do that right?

1712
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 1: Yes? That's correct.

1713
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 11: So I'm gonna steal it because if I don't have

1714
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 11: stab you know, God forbid that. If you have steel toes,

1715
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 11: one would think, well, then you're on like a factory

1716
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 11: floor working or something. I worked with Draper and Spiceland.

1717
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 11: One would think you're using your steel toes on the floor.

1718
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 1: No, no, no. By the way, that.

1719
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 11: Helmet that she held up it and looked like it

1720
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:53,759
Speaker 11: fits her either. She looks like a more tan version

1721
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:55,560
Speaker 11: of Stay Puffed from Ghostbusters.

1722
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:59,480
Speaker 4: Yeah's helmet wouldn't fit this woman.

1723
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:04,600
Speaker 3: Would she That's a great reference. But also when she

1724
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 3: held up her steel toe as she called them, I

1725
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 3: think they were a pair of a six.

1726
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1727
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 1: Okay, Look I got a lot of emails about that one.

1728
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 11: Some people are like, well, actually my sperries are steel

1729
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 11: toe these days, and I'm like, okay, maybe I've been

1730
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 11: out of it for a while. But it looked like

1731
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:22,879
Speaker 11: she held up a pair of dilapidated nikes or some rebox.

1732
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 3: I got about a minute left with this segment. Do

1733
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 3: we don't hear any more of this? Lady? Just look,

1734
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 3: we're good, all right, we got we got it, Tony.

1735
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 4: On a scale of one to ten, with ten being

1736
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 4: you're furious and one being you're a little upset, how

1737
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 4: much of a ten are you when it comes to

1738
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 4: Donald Trump putting a ballroom at the White House?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 11: Man, I can't believe the president doesn't want to host

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Speaker 11: foreign leaders at the local Dave and Busters.

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Speaker 1: How dare he?

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Speaker 4: But but it's not his house, it's the people's house, Tony.

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Speaker 11: I love that people don't realize Trump isn't going to

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Speaker 11: stuff the ballroom into a suitcase and leave with it

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Speaker 11: when his office.

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Speaker 3: He's paying for it on his own.

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Speaker 11: And it's it's just just it's another beautiful built this

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Speaker 11: one unlike the swimming pool or Obama's basketball court. No jokes, please,

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Speaker 11: I think that you know this one actually has a

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Speaker 11: little bit of substance to what you would expect at

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Speaker 11: the chief executive's house. A nice dining room, a nice ballroom.

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Speaker 11: I mean goodness, why is this so offensive to people?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 11: Maybe it's because old white men most often can't dance.

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Speaker 11: We just don't want to show that to the rest

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Speaker 11: of the world.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair.

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Speaker 4: That's what it is. That's exactly what it is.

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Speaker 3: Let's ask the crazy snap lady Donald.

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Speaker 4: Like this, what's coming up tonight, Tony.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I don't know how I'm gonna top the

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Speaker 11: most cholesterol rage cussing field.

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Speaker 1: Video we've ever aired on the show.

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Speaker 11: We do have Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin on tonight,

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Speaker 11: so that'll be fun awesome.

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Speaker 4: I loved him in Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Fantastic

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Speaker 4: looking forward to it.

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Speaker 11: My friend, you guys have a fantastic evening with you

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Speaker 11: on Daily Signal stuff.

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Speaker 1: You're the best.

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Speaker 4: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.