WEBVTT - 8-3-26: Should Hemp Be Illegal? 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:29.480 Hi Oh, Let's go hi oh, Let's go Oh, Let's 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.320 go oh, Let's go. 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:34.840 The moto back a save stop one to seven point 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:38.479 nine FM WBT. Brett Jensen here on a Monday night 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:41.199 edition of Breaking with Brett Jensen, as we go up 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:43.800 to seven o'clock tonight like we always do. Seven oh 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.400 four five, seven oh one oh seven nine is the 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:49.520 telephone number that is also the WBT text on, driven 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.840 of course by a Liberty Buick GMC and guys follow 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:56.080 me on X at Brett Underscore Jensen for all the 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.880 lettuce and breaking news in and around the Charlotte area. 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:00.960 And if you follow me on then you would have 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.639 seen all the big stories that I broke on Friday. 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:06.959 And again one was Camara's County. One was Union County. 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:08.920 This is why I tell you to follow me on X. 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:10.680 All right, so we got a lot, we're going to 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.320 get into it tonight, but we're gonna start off with 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:20.640 something different. And when casinos was a thing a few 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.440 years ago and there's a big fight in the Senate 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.880 and the House about this up in Raleigh, we did 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:30.840 deep dives into this sports gambling. I did deep dives 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.880 into sports gambling and was telling you you know, whether 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:37.280 it's pros or cons. Where people were out to lunch 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.040 and just clueless on some of the things that they 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.559 were saying, who literally knew nothing that they were talking about. 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:45.160 Like in the casinos, they said that the mafia, hookers 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.080 and drugs will show up in Anson County if there's 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.120 a casino built. Mafia is not showing up in Anson County. 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:54.120 Nobody shows up to Anson County. But with that being said, 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:55.800 as matter of fact, I think twenty five thousand people 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.960 lived there. So with that being said, I want to 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.000 do a deep dive into what's going to be making 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:07.120 headlines over the next oh forty eight hours or less, 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:14.320 and that is the hemp situation, and specifically not hemp 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:18.040 that makes cotton cloth like shirts replacements for cotton and 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:22.200 stuff like that, but specifically THHC, not medical marijuana. We're 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.960 not talking about that. We're talking about hemp and THHC 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.160 stuff that you can get now in Ashville. Like I 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.560 was in Ashville over the weekend and breweries up there 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:37.200 had THHC drinks. They had three different levels two milligrams, 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:41.919 five milligrams, ten milligrams, and basically think of it as 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.560 alcoholic content. Two was very very light, ten is very 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.760 very strong. In five is sort of like Goldilocks just right, 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.200 so for a lot of people. But there's going to 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:56.000 be a vote potentially either tomorrow night, tomorrow evening while 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:57.680 we're on air, or just before we go on air, 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:03.600 or Wednesday, about getting of THHC drinks and THHC all together. 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:08.720 It's not yet federally outlawed by or it's not yet 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.920 federally considered a federal crime, or it's not federally outlawed 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.760 by any stretch of the imagination, but yet there's gonna 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:17.680 be discussions about it, and there seems to be a 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:21.200 lot of people torn on what to do. So I thought, 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.520 you know what, let's do this. Let's bring in a 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:28.160 couple of people to discuss this topic tonight. And Scott 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:31.240 Brown is with us tonight, and he's got a company 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.360 that helps produce THHC. And we've also got friend of 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.440 the program, Jamie Daniel, who's in to talk about the 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:41.480 business side of things and the economic impact that it 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.360 may or may not have on the state of North Carolina. So, guys, 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.080 first of all, thanks for coming tonight, and Scott, I'll 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:52.120 start with you just because a lot of people are 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:56.160 novices about this stuff. In THCHC, just explain the difference 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:59.520 between saying a THHC drink from a brewery or a 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:03.440 gummy as opposed to taking a hit on a joint. 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:08.440 What's the difference, Well, I mean to understand the two 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.760 different things smoking it taking a hit from a joint 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.880 that could either be from marijuana or that could be 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:13.360 from hemp. 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.560 Right, marijuana is. 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:19.680 Regulated in multiple states. It's defined as anything that's over 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:24.479 point three percent delta nine it has a more intoxicating effect, 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:30.240 whereas hemp is UH determined as less than point three 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:35.640 percent delta nine. Inside inside the hemp industry, there's a 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:37.880 lot of products that have been developed and created that 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.120 have been that are widely available. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:40.640 Throughout the marketplace. 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.680 Hemp drinks that are available at Total Wine, that are 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:50.000 available at certain hemp stores and so forth. And then 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:53.440 you have hemp gummies, right, and those gummies have less 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:58.719 in lesson point nine but a point three percent delta nine. 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:58.680 But they're widely available. 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.960 Right Whereas in the state of North Carolina there is 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.760 actually not medical water whatsoever, so it's the only way 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:09.680 that they're able to access products that have tec in general. 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:11.880 They also have full spectrum CBD. 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:15.480 They also have other caminoids that have at trace levels 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:16.119 and so forth. 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:22.520 And these these products and so forth provide multiple different 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.200 effects for the veterans. 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:30.040 They for anxiety, for pain, and so forth. So it's 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.599 a product that they're able to get. They're able to 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:34.839 get it at like I said, total wine and so forth. 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.640 And not all these products are all fully intoxicate in 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.839 some are, some are not, but there they have a 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:43.920 huge help and benefit to like I said, all the 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:45.480 different consumers, veterans and so forth. 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.839 So to clear up a where people may not know. 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.520 And like even in college, I didn't like marijuana, So 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.200 I'm want to put that out there for the listeners 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.880 to know. But the I was getting some information about 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:01.120 this today and it will probably surprise a lot of 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:06.240 the listeners, like it did me. The average consumer of 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:10.760 a hemp product drink it's just selts of water flavored 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.160 selts of water with hemp in it. It's not alcohol 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.360 with hemp. It's just it's just selts of water with 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:17.960 hemp in it. And you can, like you said, buy 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.560 it it breweries or whatever. And Asheville, I think it 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:25.440 was forty three forty four breweries that sell it, either 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.680 they make it in house or whatever. But the average 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.880 person that consumes this is a thirty six year old 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.680 white woman that lives in the suburbs. That sounds about right, yeah, 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.040 And I was like, well, there goes the rose all 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:43.640 day theory for the suburban white women. But so that 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:47.320 surprised me that that's who the average consumer is. 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.800 Well, it's a healthy alternative, is what it's became. 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.080 Right. A lot of people don't want to drink alcohol, 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.760 and that's one of the big things that's also happening here. Currently, 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.279 marijuana and or hemp and now have a higher usage 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.920 rates per day than alcohol and cigarettes. So it's been 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.480 a huge shift in the marketplace. Like I said, it's 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.279 a healthy alternative. People don't want to be hungover, people 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.040 don't want the negative effects from alcohol, and so they've 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.840 turned into something that actually has medical benefits but also 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:17.880 gives them relaxation, helps with anxiety, helps them with sleep, 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.040 you know. And that's why it's had this huge craze, 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.680 And that's why you're seeing in consumers thirty six soccer mom, 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.920 like you said, white woman, so forth, and you've seen 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.520 and so it's really starting to grow, especially in the 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:29.360 baby boomers. 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.320 So House Built three twenty eight is going to be 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:36.880 put forth in Caucus late tomorrow afternoon, and some of 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:40.760 the things in it you people like you and your 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:45.080 industry are in favor of. In terms of regulation. One 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.000 of the big billboards they had at one of the 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.280 breweries in Nashville over the weekend, I actually took a 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:53.240 photo of it was regulate don't ruin because they want 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.680 it regulated as well. And I did not realize that 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.040 currently North Carolina doesn't have an age for you have 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.000 to be twenty one to buy, but there is no 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:02.200 age for hamp right now. 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:03.080 That is correct. 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.320 I mean we've been trying to get an age regulation 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.840 bill in place. We have a SB three twenty eight 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.840 that was passed and then pass one oh six to 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.000 one in the House and kick back to the Senate 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.640 for concurrence and they never passed it. We put through 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.760 other bills five sixty one with that has regulation. We 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:21.640 have plenty of bills that have gone through trying to 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.520 get this done and we haven't. We haven't been successful. 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.280 Our goal is to go ahead and regulate. Our goal 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.640 is to make it to where miners cannot get the 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.840 product safe access testing the whole nine yards. 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:34.480 We just haven't been able to get that done. 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.719 When we come back, we're gonna really get into the 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.679 business side of things and the economic sides, and what 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.720 everyone else needs to understand is this isn't really a 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:48.760 Republican Democrat issue. Just like casinos wasn't, sports gambling wasn't. 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.600 This is, you know, a lot, very very much of 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:54.720 a bipartisan thing, and a lot of people don't know 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:56.960 what to do up and rally. They are really on 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.440 the fence one way or the other. But we're going 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.440 to talk about economic side of hemp and what it's 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.520 doing and what it provides North Carolina, and you may 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.560 be surprised by some of the results, just like I was. 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.160 Welcome back to breaks here on this money in that 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.160 edition as we go up until seven o'clock like we 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:22.480 do every single night, Scott Brown, Jamie Daniel, they're in 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:26.240 studio with me tonight to talk about the hemp industry, 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:27.439 not medical marijuana. 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:31.160 People understand need to understand there's a major difference. And 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:34.520 just like we did deep dives into sports gambling in 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:38.360 North Carolina, casinos in North Carolina, this is a big 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.240 thing that's gaining a lot of notoriety, and so it 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.000 figured it let's have some people in it. So we 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.560 just talked to Scott about like exactly what it is 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.000 and that what they're doing now, this bill would basically 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:55.280 outlaw all hemp products and essentially make it like o'dule's beer, 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:59.920 essentially non alcoholic beer, non alcohol non THHC level for gum. 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:04.760 And it's not against the law from a federal standpoint 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:06.960 by any stretch of the imagination. 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:08.520 So people need to understand that. 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:10.679 But there are some things in this bill that people 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:14.839 want to have happen, like raising the age to twenty one. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.280 Currently there is no age limit in South Carolina. You 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.360 could literally be twelve years old or in North Carolina 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:21.679 be twelve years old and buy this in North Carolina. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:23.320 And there are a couple other things that the hemp 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.400 industry would like to see past and that the people 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.880 up in Raleigh are debating, and so Jamie, we just 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:31.720 I want to talk about the business side of this 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:35.280 for a little bit because I don't think because I 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.080 sure as hell didn't, but I don't think a lot 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:41.600 of people maybe understand the economic impact from a state 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.000 even if it's regulated and you've got to be twenty one, 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.360 just like you have to be to buy cigarettes. But 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:50.640 just the economic standpoint of what we're looking at from 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:55.199 a state statewide bringing in dollars wise, sure. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:59.600 I mean, our state has been troubled with manufacturing since 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.319 twenty two, twenty one. We've started to see it come back, 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.079 as well as our commercial real estate, which took a 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.640 major hit during COVID. If this industry goes away, they're 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:10.839 going to lose sixteen thousand just. 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:11.640 In that industry. 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:15.600 That doesn't include all of the vendors, the corrugated box companies, 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.720 the trucking companies, the ink vendors that will be you know, 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.800 hit by this because they will lose employees, commercial real estate, 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:27.960 all these businesses, all of these have industry and different 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:31.719 stores are occupying space. Commercial real estate will take a hit, 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:33.040 and we've just seen. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:33.840 It come back. 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.280 We talk about North Carolina being you know, a great 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.880 place to live and work these companies and I can 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:40.520 speak because I do work with Scott. 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:42.480 His company pays a living wage. 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.360 I mean, these are you know, four to five hundred 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.160 employees just in the Charlotte market that will be without 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.440 a job when this bill is passed. 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.080 And again this is I keep feeling like I have 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.440 to keep saying this is not medical marijuana, this is 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.920 not recreation marijuana. And so I always feel like I 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.559 have to keep saying this is something completely different, and 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.640 this is also not against the law at a federal level. 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.559 Marijuana is against the law at a federal level. This 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:09.360 is not. So I just feel like I have to 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:12.800 say that from a dollar cent standpoint, from a monetary figure, 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:14.360 do we have an impact? Do we have an I've 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.800 heard a couple different numbers from one billion, one point 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.800 five billion, two billion industry. Do you have any insight 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:20.800 on that? Yeah? I do. 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.480 Yeah, it's four point four billion, four point four four 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:26.080 point four billion, seven hundred and three million dollars in 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:26.959 wages that would be. 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.920 Lost, sixteen thousand jobs. Sixteen thousand jobs would be lost. 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.600 So it's a large amount. This isn't smallest four point 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:33.080 four million. 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.520 The state collects eighty eight eighty nine million dollars just 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.440 off of sales tax and so forth off of it. 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:41.360 So it's a big industry, it's a lot. It's a 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:41.800 huge hit. 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:47.320 What would happen if they said, you know, what's got fine? 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.199 You know, we understand we're going to raise the age 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.240 to twenty one, as it should be. I think most 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.280 people agree with that one, and I know you agree 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:57.000 with that. But you know what, We're gonna actually tax 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:00.000 it a little heavier, maybe like we do tobacco or alcohol. 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.040 Will you guys be okay with that one hundred percent? 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.440 That's actually what we have in both the bills that 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.640 we have out right now. So we have a five 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:10.760 percent excise tax on there for the state. We'll even 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:12.920 go higher. I mean, the one thing we want to 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:14.319 do is you don't want to excize it too much 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.480 to where now it's not a product that actually makes sense. 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.840 But we are there for we want to have a tax. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.240 Tennessee just went through the same program. They just went through. 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.240 They did an excise tax and so forth, and their 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.400 program is running well. So they found a way to 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.920 go ahead and regulate and tax it. We want to 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:29.800 regulate and tax it. 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:32.760 And I think what people may need to really realize 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:34.880 is that just because it leaves North Carolina doesn't mean 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.280 it doesn't show up in another state. So these jobs 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:40.360 and these people will leave our state, which means all 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.120 of the economy will now be affected. 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:43.000 Your grocery stores. 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.200 Everything that where they're shopping is not This isn't just 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.600 an industry that they're getting ready to take out. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:50.040 These are people's livelihoods. 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.520 Well, and I will say this, and you know, not 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:54.440 trying to be a cheerleader one way or the other here, 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:59.720 but North Carolina borders for states, and damn near everyone 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:03.560 in this state lives near another state, whether it's Tennessee, Georgia, 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.480 South Carolina, or Virginia, and they can go elsewhere and 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:08.120 get the same thing and just bring it back across 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:08.720 the state lines. 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:09.600 Correct one arm? 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:15.280 Wow? Excuse me? All right? So I know we I 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.400 already planned on two segments, but I have two segments. 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.400 But if you guys can stick around for one more segment, 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:20.880 I'd appreciate that because there's a couple of other things 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:22.600 I want to get into. And like I said, I 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.800 was actually in Asheville over the weekend, and I know 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.120 Ashville is not your typical North Carolina town. I get it, 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.000 but but I do want to. I did interview a 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.000 bar manager up there in terms of a brewery and 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.360 where they make their own THHC products, and so I 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.240 want to I wanted to get you guys reaction on that. 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.680 Welcome back to were Breaking with Fred Jenson talking about 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.800 the hemp industry and House bill. As a matter of fact, 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.400 we've got a bill that's probably going to be introduced 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:59.880 tomorrow Housepel three twenty eight that would outlaw hemp all together. 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.360 And again, I'm not talking about stuff that they make 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.480 into clothes or things like that. And we're not talking 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:09.480 about marijuana for recreational use or medical marijuana or anything 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.040 like this. We're talking about an industry that is not 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:15.920 against the law federally and the economic impact. You heard 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:19.680 Scott Brown who's in the hemp industry, and also Jamie 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.160 Daniel who's here with us, who talks about is the 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.120 business side of it, because it's not just the people, 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.640 as she laid out, it's it's the truck drivers, it's 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:32.000 the packaging companies, it's you know, all the printing companies, 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:35.800 it's all the above that could be impacted by this 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:40.600 if this is actually voted tomorrow, which would basically outlaw 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:44.080 help for the most part, I want you to hear 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.800 this audio again. Over the weekend, I was in Ashville 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:53.480 and talking to his name is Johan, and he works 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:57.600 at a brewery and he said, they just started selling 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:03.400 THHC drinks. May twenty ninth was the exact date, and 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:08.600 he said it has been by far their biggest return 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.480 of investment in terms of products. They get the most 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.640 profit off of this. Then they do any other thing 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.960 that they make, food, their own beer or whatever. And 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:21.280 he said, every single bar in Asheville selsy Strins. Now, 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.840 I know Ashville's a unicorn in the state of North Carolina. 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:27.160 It's actually a unicorn in America, but except for San 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:32.400 fred and Austin. But but he was like Brent, he goes, 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.720 it's not the gen Z that's buying it. And you 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.040 won't hear this in the interview, but he said, it's 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:40.960 not the gen Z that's buying it. He said, it's 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:44.479 your thirty five and older people. It is your older millennials. 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:47.760 It is your gen X that is buying these products. 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.280 So I did ask him about this, and I just 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:51.920 want you to guys to hear what he had to say. 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:55.520 It has definitely been in the discussion. Yeah, it's been 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:59.560 a very worrying development. It's again provided us an excellent 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.840 opportunity to diversify our income streams and you know, a 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:08.800 challenging market space. So we are very concerned. We would 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.240 like to trust our elected officials to do the right 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.879 thing and allow us to continue selling these beverages with 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.880 some regular or with some sensible regulation. 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:25.119 So, Jamie, from a business standpoint, do you understand a 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.080 small business and how this might under this might undercut 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:29.000 somebody like a brewery. 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:32.240 Absolutely, as a small business owner, I understand that when 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.760 you have revenue lines and you take them away, that 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:38.399 causes jobs to go away as much as the business 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:38.880 line does. 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.760 And Scott, you know, this is the industry that you've chosen. 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.600 You said, you know to have trust in the elected 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.520 officials to do the right thing. But it's not always 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.280 as cut and dry. There's always there tends to be either. 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.840 You know, people are behind the scenes trying to push 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:56.600 for things as well. 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:01.359 Yeah, that's correct. I mean the hemp space lives amongst 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.720 the alcohol space in the marijuana space. Right, there's three 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.280 different spaces here that are all at work. Because the 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.399 hemp space dives in and cuts into the profits of 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.240 the marijuana space and the alcohol space. You have alcohol 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.760 users leave an alcohol for hemp, and you have marijuana 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.400 users leaving marijuana for hemp. 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:22.840 Because of the cost and because of the access. 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.040 So you have these big forces that are all playing 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.560 at this and they're trying to chop down the hemp 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.600 industry to grow themselves alcohol. Like I said, alcohol has 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.760 been losing consumers and marijuana has been losing consumers. 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.600 So here in the federal level we have a fight 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.160 between all of them. 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.680 In this state wide level, obviously alcohol is in play, 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.080 but it's really the MSOs the marijuana that are coming 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.159 in and they're trying to push and they're trying to 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.240 create a market where they have medical marijuana and they're 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.280 trying to push out the hemp market, which the hemp 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:54.120 market is a free market and marijuana market is a 0:18:54.560 --> 0:19:00.200 monopoly market. To where there's a couple of players. 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.880 The show at one of seven oh four five, seven 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:04.919 oh one oh seven nine, driven by Liberty View at 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:10.720 GMC Texter sends into the show Brett I use almost daily, 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:14.280 great for sleeping and recovery and recovery from working out. 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.480 I hope this bill does not go through. And people 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.000 a lot of times think that again, oh, it's just 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.480 because it's in these drinks that are sort of like alcohol. 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.960 But this is just a normal like again, the person 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.439 listening to my show, is not the person that you 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.240 would see walking down the streets in Ashville. Like, they're 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:34.560 not the same person. They don't look the same. I 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:38.119 promise you. Their income's not the same and their education 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.879 levels probably aren't the same. But yet this person just 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:41.840 sent me that text. 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:44.359 Yeah, that's correct. I mean this is used by the 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:48.720 normal person. Most people might not understand it. But they 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.320 use the gummies for sleep, they use the gummies for anxiety. 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:55.000 They'll use they'll smoke because another product is inhalable, but 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:59.399 that inhalable isn't sure heavy T. There's full specialum, CBD, 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:03.200 there's CBG, there's TCV, there's different caminoids that have different effects. 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.200 And so they're using this for their daily life, whether 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:11.199 it's sleep, anxiety, you know, any condition, you know, PTSD, 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.000 whatever it might be. They're relying on these products. And 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:17.280 that's what's happening right now. This bill will completely kill 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.040 this industry and access to these products, and you'll have 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:22.920 thousands upon thousands of users that will not be able 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.480 to get the things that they rely on. 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.919 Well, and Jamie knows what a freak show I am about, 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.919 like animals and stuff like that, and she knows the 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:33.760 deal that I went through with my Golden retriever. So 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:36.240 do all the listeners over the last two years with 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.359 her getting older and having issues walking a lot of 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:43.880 times or whatever. And the vet actually recommended HEMP for Meg. 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:47.280 She said, have you ever been She goes, I'm not 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:51.359 talking CBD, she goes, I'm actually talking about hemp and 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:54.359 to alleviate and help with the joints. And there's certain 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:56.480 kind that you can get and this and that, like 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.200