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Speaker 2: lettuce and breaking news in and around the Charlotte area.
Speaker 2: And if you follow me on then you would have
Speaker 2: seen all the big stories that I broke on Friday.
Speaker 2: And again one was Camara's County. One was Union County.
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Speaker 2: All right, so we got a lot, we're going to
Speaker 2: get into it tonight, but we're gonna start off with
Speaker 2: something different. And when casinos was a thing a few
Speaker 2: years ago and there's a big fight in the Senate
Speaker 2: and the House about this up in Raleigh, we did
Speaker 2: deep dives into this sports gambling. I did deep dives
Speaker 2: into sports gambling and was telling you you know, whether
Speaker 2: it's pros or cons. Where people were out to lunch
Speaker 2: and just clueless on some of the things that they
Speaker 2: were saying, who literally knew nothing that they were talking about.
Speaker 2: Like in the casinos, they said that the mafia, hookers
Speaker 2: and drugs will show up in Anson County if there's
Speaker 2: a casino built. Mafia is not showing up in Anson County.
Speaker 2: Nobody shows up to Anson County. But with that being said,
Speaker 2: as matter of fact, I think twenty five thousand people
Speaker 2: lived there. So with that being said, I want to
Speaker 2: do a deep dive into what's going to be making
Speaker 2: headlines over the next oh forty eight hours or less,
Speaker 2: and that is the hemp situation, and specifically not hemp
Speaker 2: that makes cotton cloth like shirts replacements for cotton and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, but specifically THHC, not medical marijuana. We're
Speaker 2: not talking about that. We're talking about hemp and THHC
Speaker 2: stuff that you can get now in Ashville. Like I
Speaker 2: was in Ashville over the weekend and breweries up there
Speaker 2: had THHC drinks. They had three different levels two milligrams,
Speaker 2: five milligrams, ten milligrams, and basically think of it as
Speaker 2: alcoholic content. Two was very very light, ten is very
Speaker 2: very strong. In five is sort of like Goldilocks just right,
Speaker 2: so for a lot of people. But there's going to
Speaker 2: be a vote potentially either tomorrow night, tomorrow evening while
Speaker 2: we're on air, or just before we go on air,
Speaker 2: or Wednesday, about getting of THHC drinks and THHC all together.
Speaker 2: It's not yet federally outlawed by or it's not yet
Speaker 2: federally considered a federal crime, or it's not federally outlawed
Speaker 2: by any stretch of the imagination, but yet there's gonna
Speaker 2: be discussions about it, and there seems to be a
Speaker 2: lot of people torn on what to do. So I thought,
Speaker 2: you know what, let's do this. Let's bring in a
Speaker 2: couple of people to discuss this topic tonight. And Scott
Speaker 2: Brown is with us tonight, and he's got a company
Speaker 2: that helps produce THHC. And we've also got friend of
Speaker 2: the program, Jamie Daniel, who's in to talk about the
Speaker 2: business side of things and the economic impact that it
Speaker 2: may or may not have on the state of North Carolina. So, guys,
Speaker 2: first of all, thanks for coming tonight, and Scott, I'll
Speaker 2: start with you just because a lot of people are
Speaker 2: novices about this stuff. In THCHC, just explain the difference
Speaker 2: between saying a THHC drink from a brewery or a
Speaker 2: gummy as opposed to taking a hit on a joint.
Speaker 3: What's the difference, Well, I mean to understand the two
Speaker 3: different things smoking it taking a hit from a joint
Speaker 3: that could either be from marijuana or that could be
Speaker 3: from hemp.
Speaker 4: Right, marijuana is.
Speaker 3: Regulated in multiple states. It's defined as anything that's over
Speaker 3: point three percent delta nine it has a more intoxicating effect,
Speaker 3: whereas hemp is UH determined as less than point three
Speaker 3: percent delta nine. Inside inside the hemp industry, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of products that have been developed and created that
Speaker 3: have been that are widely available.
Speaker 4: Throughout the marketplace.
Speaker 3: Hemp drinks that are available at Total Wine, that are
Speaker 3: available at certain hemp stores and so forth. And then
Speaker 3: you have hemp gummies, right, and those gummies have less
Speaker 3: in lesson point nine but a point three percent delta nine.
Speaker 4: But they're widely available.
Speaker 3: Right Whereas in the state of North Carolina there is
Speaker 3: actually not medical water whatsoever, so it's the only way
Speaker 3: that they're able to access products that have tec in general.
Speaker 4: They also have full spectrum CBD.
Speaker 3: They also have other caminoids that have at trace levels
Speaker 3: and so forth.
Speaker 4: And these these products and so forth provide multiple different
Speaker 4: effects for the veterans.
Speaker 3: They for anxiety, for pain, and so forth. So it's
Speaker 3: a product that they're able to get. They're able to
Speaker 3: get it at like I said, total wine and so forth.
Speaker 3: And not all these products are all fully intoxicate in
Speaker 3: some are, some are not, but there they have a
Speaker 3: huge help and benefit to like I said, all the
Speaker 3: different consumers, veterans and so forth.
Speaker 2: So to clear up a where people may not know.
Speaker 2: And like even in college, I didn't like marijuana, So
Speaker 2: I'm want to put that out there for the listeners
Speaker 2: to know. But the I was getting some information about
Speaker 2: this today and it will probably surprise a lot of
Speaker 2: the listeners, like it did me. The average consumer of
Speaker 2: a hemp product drink it's just selts of water flavored
Speaker 2: selts of water with hemp in it. It's not alcohol
Speaker 2: with hemp. It's just it's just selts of water with
Speaker 2: hemp in it. And you can, like you said, buy
Speaker 2: it it breweries or whatever. And Asheville, I think it
Speaker 2: was forty three forty four breweries that sell it, either
Speaker 2: they make it in house or whatever. But the average
Speaker 2: person that consumes this is a thirty six year old
Speaker 2: white woman that lives in the suburbs. That sounds about right, yeah,
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, there goes the rose all
Speaker 2: day theory for the suburban white women. But so that
Speaker 2: surprised me that that's who the average consumer is.
Speaker 4: Well, it's a healthy alternative, is what it's became.
Speaker 3: Right. A lot of people don't want to drink alcohol,
Speaker 3: and that's one of the big things that's also happening here. Currently,
Speaker 3: marijuana and or hemp and now have a higher usage
Speaker 3: rates per day than alcohol and cigarettes. So it's been
Speaker 3: a huge shift in the marketplace. Like I said, it's
Speaker 3: a healthy alternative. People don't want to be hungover, people
Speaker 3: don't want the negative effects from alcohol, and so they've
Speaker 3: turned into something that actually has medical benefits but also
Speaker 3: gives them relaxation, helps with anxiety, helps them with sleep,
Speaker 3: you know. And that's why it's had this huge craze,
Speaker 3: And that's why you're seeing in consumers thirty six soccer mom,
Speaker 3: like you said, white woman, so forth, and you've seen
Speaker 3: and so it's really starting to grow, especially in the
Speaker 3: baby boomers.
Speaker 2: So House Built three twenty eight is going to be
Speaker 2: put forth in Caucus late tomorrow afternoon, and some of
Speaker 2: the things in it you people like you and your
Speaker 2: industry are in favor of. In terms of regulation. One
Speaker 2: of the big billboards they had at one of the
Speaker 2: breweries in Nashville over the weekend, I actually took a
Speaker 2: photo of it was regulate don't ruin because they want
Speaker 2: it regulated as well. And I did not realize that
Speaker 2: currently North Carolina doesn't have an age for you have
Speaker 2: to be twenty one to buy, but there is no
Speaker 2: age for hamp right now.
Speaker 4: That is correct.
Speaker 3: I mean we've been trying to get an age regulation
Speaker 3: bill in place. We have a SB three twenty eight
Speaker 3: that was passed and then pass one oh six to
Speaker 3: one in the House and kick back to the Senate
Speaker 3: for concurrence and they never passed it. We put through
Speaker 3: other bills five sixty one with that has regulation. We
Speaker 3: have plenty of bills that have gone through trying to
Speaker 3: get this done and we haven't. We haven't been successful.
Speaker 3: Our goal is to go ahead and regulate. Our goal
Speaker 3: is to make it to where miners cannot get the
Speaker 3: product safe access testing the whole nine yards.
Speaker 4: We just haven't been able to get that done.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we're gonna really get into the
Speaker 2: business side of things and the economic sides, and what
Speaker 2: everyone else needs to understand is this isn't really a
Speaker 2: Republican Democrat issue. Just like casinos wasn't, sports gambling wasn't.
Speaker 2: This is, you know, a lot, very very much of
Speaker 2: a bipartisan thing, and a lot of people don't know
Speaker 2: what to do up and rally. They are really on
Speaker 2: the fence one way or the other. But we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about economic side of hemp and what it's
Speaker 2: doing and what it provides North Carolina, and you may
Speaker 2: be surprised by some of the results, just like I was.
Speaker 5: Welcome back to breaks here on this money in that
Speaker 5: edition as we go up until seven o'clock like we
Speaker 5: do every single night, Scott Brown, Jamie Daniel, they're in
Speaker 5: studio with me tonight to talk about the hemp industry,
Speaker 5: not medical marijuana.
Speaker 2: People understand need to understand there's a major difference. And
Speaker 2: just like we did deep dives into sports gambling in
Speaker 2: North Carolina, casinos in North Carolina, this is a big
Speaker 2: thing that's gaining a lot of notoriety, and so it
Speaker 2: figured it let's have some people in it. So we
Speaker 2: just talked to Scott about like exactly what it is
Speaker 2: and that what they're doing now, this bill would basically
Speaker 2: outlaw all hemp products and essentially make it like o'dule's beer,
Speaker 2: essentially non alcoholic beer, non alcohol non THHC level for gum.
Speaker 2: And it's not against the law from a federal standpoint
Speaker 2: by any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 4: So people need to understand that.
Speaker 2: But there are some things in this bill that people
Speaker 2: want to have happen, like raising the age to twenty one.
Speaker 2: Currently there is no age limit in South Carolina. You
Speaker 2: could literally be twelve years old or in North Carolina
Speaker 2: be twelve years old and buy this in North Carolina.
Speaker 2: And there are a couple other things that the hemp
Speaker 2: industry would like to see past and that the people
Speaker 2: up in Raleigh are debating, and so Jamie, we just
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the business side of this
Speaker 2: for a little bit because I don't think because I
Speaker 2: sure as hell didn't, but I don't think a lot
Speaker 2: of people maybe understand the economic impact from a state
Speaker 2: even if it's regulated and you've got to be twenty one,
Speaker 2: just like you have to be to buy cigarettes. But
Speaker 2: just the economic standpoint of what we're looking at from
Speaker 2: a state statewide bringing in dollars wise, sure.
Speaker 6: I mean, our state has been troubled with manufacturing since
Speaker 6: twenty two, twenty one. We've started to see it come back,
Speaker 6: as well as our commercial real estate, which took a
Speaker 6: major hit during COVID. If this industry goes away, they're
Speaker 6: going to lose sixteen thousand just.
Speaker 7: In that industry.
Speaker 6: That doesn't include all of the vendors, the corrugated box companies,
Speaker 6: the trucking companies, the ink vendors that will be you know,
Speaker 6: hit by this because they will lose employees, commercial real estate,
Speaker 6: all these businesses, all of these have industry and different
Speaker 6: stores are occupying space. Commercial real estate will take a hit,
Speaker 6: and we've just seen.
Speaker 7: It come back.
Speaker 6: We talk about North Carolina being you know, a great
Speaker 6: place to live and work these companies and I can
Speaker 6: speak because I do work with Scott.
Speaker 7: His company pays a living wage.
Speaker 6: I mean, these are you know, four to five hundred
Speaker 6: employees just in the Charlotte market that will be without
Speaker 6: a job when this bill is passed.
Speaker 2: And again this is I keep feeling like I have
Speaker 2: to keep saying this is not medical marijuana, this is
Speaker 2: not recreation marijuana. And so I always feel like I
Speaker 2: have to keep saying this is something completely different, and
Speaker 2: this is also not against the law at a federal level.
Speaker 2: Marijuana is against the law at a federal level. This
Speaker 2: is not. So I just feel like I have to
Speaker 2: say that from a dollar cent standpoint, from a monetary figure,
Speaker 2: do we have an impact? Do we have an I've
Speaker 2: heard a couple different numbers from one billion, one point
Speaker 2: five billion, two billion industry. Do you have any insight
Speaker 2: on that? Yeah? I do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's four point four billion, four point four four
Speaker 3: point four billion, seven hundred and three million dollars in
Speaker 3: wages that would be.
Speaker 4: Lost, sixteen thousand jobs. Sixteen thousand jobs would be lost.
Speaker 4: So it's a large amount. This isn't smallest four point
Speaker 4: four million.
Speaker 3: The state collects eighty eight eighty nine million dollars just
Speaker 3: off of sales tax and so forth off of it.
Speaker 4: So it's a big industry, it's a lot. It's a
Speaker 4: huge hit.
Speaker 2: What would happen if they said, you know, what's got fine?
Speaker 2: You know, we understand we're going to raise the age
Speaker 2: to twenty one, as it should be. I think most
Speaker 2: people agree with that one, and I know you agree
Speaker 2: with that. But you know what, We're gonna actually tax
Speaker 2: it a little heavier, maybe like we do tobacco or alcohol.
Speaker 4: Will you guys be okay with that one hundred percent?
Speaker 3: That's actually what we have in both the bills that
Speaker 3: we have out right now. So we have a five
Speaker 3: percent excise tax on there for the state. We'll even
Speaker 3: go higher. I mean, the one thing we want to
Speaker 3: do is you don't want to excize it too much
Speaker 3: to where now it's not a product that actually makes sense.
Speaker 3: But we are there for we want to have a tax.
Speaker 3: Tennessee just went through the same program. They just went through.
Speaker 3: They did an excise tax and so forth, and their
Speaker 3: program is running well. So they found a way to
Speaker 3: go ahead and regulate and tax it. We want to
Speaker 3: regulate and tax it.
Speaker 6: And I think what people may need to really realize
Speaker 6: is that just because it leaves North Carolina doesn't mean
Speaker 6: it doesn't show up in another state. So these jobs
Speaker 6: and these people will leave our state, which means all
Speaker 6: of the economy will now be affected.
Speaker 7: Your grocery stores.
Speaker 6: Everything that where they're shopping is not This isn't just
Speaker 6: an industry that they're getting ready to take out.
Speaker 7: These are people's livelihoods.
Speaker 2: Well, and I will say this, and you know, not
Speaker 2: trying to be a cheerleader one way or the other here,
Speaker 2: but North Carolina borders for states, and damn near everyone
Speaker 2: in this state lives near another state, whether it's Tennessee, Georgia,
Speaker 2: South Carolina, or Virginia, and they can go elsewhere and
Speaker 2: get the same thing and just bring it back across
Speaker 2: the state lines.
Speaker 4: Correct one arm?
Speaker 2: Wow? Excuse me? All right? So I know we I
Speaker 2: already planned on two segments, but I have two segments.
Speaker 2: But if you guys can stick around for one more segment,
Speaker 2: I'd appreciate that because there's a couple of other things
Speaker 2: I want to get into. And like I said, I
Speaker 2: was actually in Asheville over the weekend, and I know
Speaker 2: Ashville is not your typical North Carolina town. I get it,
Speaker 2: but but I do want to. I did interview a
Speaker 2: bar manager up there in terms of a brewery and
Speaker 2: where they make their own THHC products, and so I
Speaker 2: want to I wanted to get you guys reaction on that.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to were Breaking with Fred Jenson talking about
Speaker 2: the hemp industry and House bill. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: we've got a bill that's probably going to be introduced
Speaker 2: tomorrow Housepel three twenty eight that would outlaw hemp all together.
Speaker 2: And again, I'm not talking about stuff that they make
Speaker 2: into clothes or things like that. And we're not talking
Speaker 2: about marijuana for recreational use or medical marijuana or anything
Speaker 2: like this. We're talking about an industry that is not
Speaker 2: against the law federally and the economic impact. You heard
Speaker 2: Scott Brown who's in the hemp industry, and also Jamie
Speaker 2: Daniel who's here with us, who talks about is the
Speaker 2: business side of it, because it's not just the people,
Speaker 2: as she laid out, it's it's the truck drivers, it's
Speaker 2: the packaging companies, it's you know, all the printing companies,
Speaker 2: it's all the above that could be impacted by this
Speaker 2: if this is actually voted tomorrow, which would basically outlaw
Speaker 2: help for the most part, I want you to hear
Speaker 2: this audio again. Over the weekend, I was in Ashville
Speaker 2: and talking to his name is Johan, and he works
Speaker 2: at a brewery and he said, they just started selling
Speaker 2: THHC drinks. May twenty ninth was the exact date, and
Speaker 2: he said it has been by far their biggest return
Speaker 2: of investment in terms of products. They get the most
Speaker 2: profit off of this. Then they do any other thing
Speaker 2: that they make, food, their own beer or whatever. And
Speaker 2: he said, every single bar in Asheville selsy Strins. Now,
Speaker 2: I know Ashville's a unicorn in the state of North Carolina.
Speaker 2: It's actually a unicorn in America, but except for San
Speaker 2: fred and Austin. But but he was like Brent, he goes,
Speaker 2: it's not the gen Z that's buying it. And you
Speaker 2: won't hear this in the interview, but he said, it's
Speaker 2: not the gen Z that's buying it. He said, it's
Speaker 2: your thirty five and older people. It is your older millennials.
Speaker 2: It is your gen X that is buying these products.
Speaker 2: So I did ask him about this, and I just
Speaker 2: want you to guys to hear what he had to say.
Speaker 8: It has definitely been in the discussion. Yeah, it's been
Speaker 8: a very worrying development. It's again provided us an excellent
Speaker 8: opportunity to diversify our income streams and you know, a
Speaker 8: challenging market space. So we are very concerned. We would
Speaker 8: like to trust our elected officials to do the right
Speaker 8: thing and allow us to continue selling these beverages with
Speaker 8: some regular or with some sensible regulation.
Speaker 2: So, Jamie, from a business standpoint, do you understand a
Speaker 2: small business and how this might under this might undercut
Speaker 2: somebody like a brewery.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, as a small business owner, I understand that when
Speaker 6: you have revenue lines and you take them away, that
Speaker 6: causes jobs to go away as much as the business
Speaker 6: line does.
Speaker 2: And Scott, you know, this is the industry that you've chosen.
Speaker 2: You said, you know to have trust in the elected
Speaker 2: officials to do the right thing. But it's not always
Speaker 2: as cut and dry. There's always there tends to be either.
Speaker 2: You know, people are behind the scenes trying to push
Speaker 2: for things as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's correct. I mean the hemp space lives amongst
Speaker 3: the alcohol space in the marijuana space. Right, there's three
Speaker 3: different spaces here that are all at work. Because the
Speaker 3: hemp space dives in and cuts into the profits of
Speaker 3: the marijuana space and the alcohol space. You have alcohol
Speaker 3: users leave an alcohol for hemp, and you have marijuana
Speaker 3: users leaving marijuana for hemp.
Speaker 4: Because of the cost and because of the access.
Speaker 3: So you have these big forces that are all playing
Speaker 3: at this and they're trying to chop down the hemp
Speaker 3: industry to grow themselves alcohol. Like I said, alcohol has
Speaker 3: been losing consumers and marijuana has been losing consumers.
Speaker 4: So here in the federal level we have a fight
Speaker 4: between all of them.
Speaker 3: In this state wide level, obviously alcohol is in play,
Speaker 3: but it's really the MSOs the marijuana that are coming
Speaker 3: in and they're trying to push and they're trying to
Speaker 3: create a market where they have medical marijuana and they're
Speaker 3: trying to push out the hemp market, which the hemp
Speaker 3: market is a free market and marijuana market is a
Speaker 3: monopoly market. To where there's a couple of players.
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Speaker 2: I hope this bill does not go through. And people
Speaker 2: a lot of times think that again, oh, it's just
Speaker 2: because it's in these drinks that are sort of like alcohol.
Speaker 2: But this is just a normal like again, the person
Speaker 2: listening to my show, is not the person that you
Speaker 2: would see walking down the streets in Ashville. Like, they're
Speaker 2: not the same person. They don't look the same. I
Speaker 2: promise you. Their income's not the same and their education
Speaker 2: levels probably aren't the same. But yet this person just
Speaker 2: sent me that text.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's correct. I mean this is used by the
Speaker 3: normal person. Most people might not understand it. But they
Speaker 3: use the gummies for sleep, they use the gummies for anxiety.
Speaker 3: They'll use they'll smoke because another product is inhalable, but
Speaker 3: that inhalable isn't sure heavy T. There's full specialum, CBD,
Speaker 3: there's CBG, there's TCV, there's different caminoids that have different effects.
Speaker 3: And so they're using this for their daily life, whether
Speaker 3: it's sleep, anxiety, you know, any condition, you know, PTSD,
Speaker 3: whatever it might be. They're relying on these products. And
Speaker 3: that's what's happening right now. This bill will completely kill
Speaker 3: this industry and access to these products, and you'll have
Speaker 3: thousands upon thousands of users that will not be able
Speaker 3: to get the things that they rely on.
Speaker 2: Well, and Jamie knows what a freak show I am about,
Speaker 2: like animals and stuff like that, and she knows the
Speaker 2: deal that I went through with my Golden retriever. So
Speaker 2: do all the listeners over the last two years with
Speaker 2: her getting older and having issues walking a lot of
Speaker 2: times or whatever. And the vet actually recommended HEMP for Meg.
Speaker 2: She said, have you ever been She goes, I'm not
Speaker 2: talking CBD, she goes, I'm actually talking about hemp and
Speaker 2: to alleviate and help with the joints. And there's certain
Speaker 2: kind that you can get and this and that, like
Speaker 2: there's different varying things of CBD or whatever. There's also
Speaker 2: she said, there were different varying things and this was
Speaker 2: actually coming from my vet. It was recommending this for
Speaker 2: my dog.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's that's a huge part of the
Speaker 3: market that people don't really understand is also the vets.
Speaker 3: I mean is the animals. There's a lot of products
Speaker 3: and not just like you're saying CBD. We're talking about
Speaker 3: TC products because it leaves the pain. And then you know,
Speaker 3: when you have a combination of TC and CBD, you
Speaker 3: also are able to have a entourage effect. So where
Speaker 3: you have the pain, you have the healing, you have
Speaker 3: the soothing, you have the calmness, the anxiety because animals
Speaker 3: have anxiety as well, I mean it's the whole night
Speaker 3: are so it's definitely heavily used for pets and that
Speaker 3: will be gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I said, this was the THHC. She was
Speaker 2: just like, just go to a vape shop, just go
Speaker 2: buy some. Tell the people this is what you're looking
Speaker 2: for to help with the aches and pains or whatever,
Speaker 2: and go use this.
Speaker 4: I said.
Speaker 2: I had never, like I said, never even considered me
Speaker 2: or entered my brain. That's something like that that a
Speaker 2: vet would be suggesting that I go to the local
Speaker 2: shop and buy some for my golden retriever. Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, and it definitely works. I mean I have a
Speaker 3: golden retriever as well. I've had one that you know,
Speaker 3: had that hips out of one previously, and we use
Speaker 3: a lot of THC CBD have products with them, and.
Speaker 2: It really helped well. So I want to make sure
Speaker 2: everyone I keep reiterating this because almost feel like I
Speaker 2: have to. In North Carolina, you have to be twenty
Speaker 2: one to buy cigarettes, you have to be twenty one
Speaker 2: to buy alcohol. Just oddly enough, you can be twelve
Speaker 2: and buy THHC drinks, although like breweries and reputable places
Speaker 2: won't sell to people that are unless they're twenty one.
Speaker 2: Just like the breweries in North up in Asheville, none
Speaker 2: of them sell to anyone under the age of twenty one.
Speaker 2: They refuse what legally they probably could. And you guys
Speaker 2: they're in the hemp industry, are asking for ages to
Speaker 2: be raised to twenty one, to put in regulations to
Speaker 2: make it safe for everyone. And I know this is
Speaker 2: a big concern for you. What happens to you if
Speaker 2: this if this bill actually passes tomorrow or Wednesday.
Speaker 3: If this bill passes tomorrow wins, our business shuts down
Speaker 3: in North Carolina. We end up moving to a different
Speaker 3: state and continue to a business. But North Carolina shut down.
Speaker 3: That's eight hundred jobs.
Speaker 4: That's just you, that's just me. And then there's.
Speaker 3: Multiple closed associates that all have hundreds of jobs each.
Speaker 3: So when we're talking sixteen thousand jobs, you know, just
Speaker 3: between a handful of us already see a couple thousands
Speaker 3: right there.
Speaker 4: So we're all gone.
Speaker 3: One of my close associates that has Apotheca fifty three
Speaker 3: source shutdown overnight.
Speaker 4: Right, So this is what's gonna en up happening.
Speaker 3: They're going to shut it down, They're gonna lose business
Speaker 3: and we're going to be forced to go somewhere else.
Speaker 2: And Jamie, like you said earlier, in just the last
Speaker 2: couple of seconds that we have here before we head
Speaker 2: to the break, and it's not just the hemp industry,
Speaker 2: it's others that could be impacted.
Speaker 7: By this absolutely.
Speaker 6: I mean when they you know, as their product's being made,
Speaker 6: they're relying on other industries to support their products, within packaging,
Speaker 6: within shipping, within even customer service agents. I mean, there's
Speaker 6: a lot of industries that people don't look at. They're
Speaker 6: just seeing the hemp industry and not realizing that behind
Speaker 6: them are people and employees that are.
Speaker 7: Making a living wage.
Speaker 6: We continue to talk about, you know, the ability to live,
Speaker 6: work and play here in North Carolina. Those people are
Speaker 6: going to be out of a job, on unemployment and
Speaker 6: on social service programs. And isn't that what we're all
Speaker 6: fighting to make sure that people have living wages. And
Speaker 6: this group I can say in a test because I
Speaker 6: work with them, that they are paying living wages to
Speaker 6: their employees.
Speaker 2: Well, Scott Brown, I really do appreciate you coming in here.
Speaker 2: Like like I said, you're part of the hip industry,
Speaker 2: You're in the middle of it. I know you're probably
Speaker 2: headed to Raleigh tonight because a lot you know, they're
Speaker 2: going to be voting on it, you know, or at
Speaker 2: least talking about it tomorrow, maybe voting on it tomorrow
Speaker 2: evening or on Wednesday. And Jamie, you are heading up
Speaker 2: there to represent some of the small business communities and
Speaker 2: stuff going on with that. And again I always feel
Speaker 2: like I have to say this just in case someone's
Speaker 2: joining us late, because the average listener spends about eight
Speaker 2: minutes listening to radio because they're in the car. Whatever.
Speaker 2: This is not against the law federally. This is not
Speaker 2: legal marijuana. It's not medical marijuana. This is actually legal.
Speaker 2: To your point, you said total wine and others sell this. Correct,
Speaker 2: That is correct, yea. So again it's not marijuana or
Speaker 2: anything like that. So I just always feel like I
Speaker 2: have to put that out there because sometimes people can
Speaker 2: get confused or whatever. But again, Scott and Jamie, I
Speaker 2: really do appreciate you guys coming in here tonight.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you having us, Thank you for taking us.
Speaker 7: Thank you. Brett.
Speaker 2: Going back to breaking with Regnans in here for a
Speaker 2: couple more minutes. We went very long in that segment,
Speaker 2: so we only got a couple of minutes here, and
Speaker 2: we're gonna be doing this all over again tomorrow. But
Speaker 2: real quick, I just want to reiterate something that Scott
Speaker 2: and Jimmie wanted me to pass along, that this bill
Speaker 2: they believe is being misrepresented. It's not just an age, hey,
Speaker 2: we want to raise the age to twenty one. Apparently
Speaker 2: everyone the breweries in North Calinda are up in Ashville
Speaker 2: that I spoke to, they want everything to be raised
Speaker 2: to twenty one the aged in order to consume this product.
Speaker 2: But what is this bill would do is basically make
Speaker 2: it essentially everything as in an old Duels beer oduleS
Speaker 2: I think has zero point two percent alcohol or zero
Speaker 2: point one percent alcohol for an Odule's beer non alcoholic beer.
Speaker 2: This would make all your THHC and stuff like that
Speaker 2: basically non alcoholic. And so it would put it at
Speaker 2: a zero point four, which is essentially the same thing
Speaker 2: as it would be, say an alcohol zero point two
Speaker 2: zero point one, just like an Oddul's beer. So it's
Speaker 2: not just hey, we want to raise the age to
Speaker 2: twenty one. It would essentially wipe out the entire industry,
Speaker 2: which is why I wanted to have them in here,
Speaker 2: because if this is past. Then you're talking about there
Speaker 2: will be an economic fallout whether you like the industry.
Speaker 2: And I, like I said, I you know, I'm in
Speaker 2: my fifties and I haven't smoked marijuana since I was
Speaker 2: probably twenty two years old. I just never liked it.
Speaker 2: Was just never a fan of it. But that doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that there aren't a lot of others. There are
Speaker 2: a lot of people who don't like merlow wine. I
Speaker 2: hate merlow wine, but it doesn't mean it should be
Speaker 2: outlawed or it should be taken away from those who
Speaker 2: do like it. And again, if this is not federally outlawed,
Speaker 2: then why is the state of North Carolina essentially going
Speaker 2: to outlaw This is the million dollar question that people
Speaker 2: are grappling with, and especially when you're talking about you know,
Speaker 2: roughly four billion dollars and anywhere from sixteen to twenty
Speaker 2: two thousand jobs that are immediately gone's that's a big thing.
Speaker 2: That's a big thing. And again, not medical marijuana, not
Speaker 2: recreational marijuana, and also not federally against the law. All right,
Speaker 2: everyone that's going to do it for us tonight. Again,
Speaker 2: thanks to Scott Brown and Jamie Daniel for joining me.
Speaker 2: In studio tonight. Tomorrow we'll have a lot of other
Speaker 2: stuff to get into, so until then, everyone TJ. Richie's
Speaker 2: coming out next. My name is Brett Jensen, and you
Speaker 2: have been listening to Breaking with Brett Jensen.