1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Line from Vall Hartliner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today. 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: So Tom Holman the Borders are is going to head 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: to Minneapolis to lead things there and lead the ice operations. 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today. Good to be here, Good 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: to be with you. You might be in parts of 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: the country dealing with the snow and the cold. 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: It is chili. 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: It is absolutely chilly out and I don't know if 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: the heat's keeping up for you or you're concerned. I mean, 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: we've more seen wind chills that aren't gonna be in 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: the overnights into the double digits below zero. Stay safe, everybody, seriously, 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 2: stay warm, check on a neighbor, do all the good things. 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: Now's the time for that Homan gonna take over. Maybe 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: this is saying that Bavino, the Border Patrol Commander Greg Bavino, 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 2: isn't handling the pr parts of it. 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: Well. I still put forth to you that the answer 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: is not pulling away. If you allow what. 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: Is a concerted effort, a coordinated effort involving Minnesota democrats 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 2: and the media to try to thwart ice, intimidate ice, 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: harass ice, and harm ice, you've got agents who am bloodied. 22 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: One agent lost the tip of their finger because it 23 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: was bitten off. You allow those people to dominate you, 24 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: that's going to happen in every blue city across the country. 25 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: It cannot be allowed. 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: And you take a look at the data, sixty three 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: percent of all violent confrontations, according to Kevin Bass, happening 28 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: in nine counties across the country. 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,279 Speaker 1: The very story. 30 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: Here is that you don't have this in places like 31 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: Florida in Texas. You have this in places that are 32 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: blue Democrats, where the Democrats are in coordination. And that's 33 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: what we learned from this release of signal chats that 34 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: cam Higbee put out. Look at the Democrats involved, including 35 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: the Lieutenant governor of Minnesota. That's Peggy Flanagan, the same 36 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: Peggy flan again who says this. 37 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: Our neighbors are being disappeared ps without due process. It 38 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 3: is just called kidnapping. Then show up and use your voice. 39 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 3: Put your body of the line. 40 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: Put your body on the line. 41 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 2: People are getting violent, ping in, engaging in false imprisonments 42 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: of ice agents, putting their cars in, the physical attacks, 43 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: everything else, the intimidation tactics, the tracking, the. 44 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: Doxing, all of it. 45 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: We cannot allow a legal immigration, and we can't simply 46 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: stop because a group of Marxists think that they're in charge. 47 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 2: I believe they have to be that they're not in charge. 48 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: That is different then whether or not we want to 49 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 2: take a look at this shooting that took place over 50 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: the weekend. If a guy by the name of Alex 51 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 2: Preddy and ask ourselves what we think of it. This 52 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: is somebody who we're hearing is indeed connected to a 53 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: lot of these actions in intimidating Ice. He's out there 54 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: with his phone, He's in the middle of the road. 55 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: He then has a confrontation with Ice where a woman 56 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: next to him gets pepper sprayed. He tries to get 57 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: in the way and tries to push back. 58 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: The ICE agent. 59 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: He gets brought to the ground and that's when Ice 60 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: sees that he has a firearm on him. They pull 61 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: the firearm from him. Does his firearm go off? Does 62 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: someone just who's an ICE agent or law enforcement see 63 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: that and yell go A shot gets fired? Multiple shots 64 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: get fired. Alex pretty is killed. 65 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: He was not murdered. 66 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: I mean I said before, I'll say it again. Tyrese 67 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: Haliburton of the Indiana pacers. I don't know the man. 68 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: I only hope his achilles heels well. 69 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: But he put that out there. 70 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: Alex Pretty was murdered, and that's a really ugly thing 71 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: to say because he doesn't give any other thing to it. 72 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: Now, maybe he has other thoughts. 73 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: I'd love to speak to him about it, but he 74 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: can't just put that out there because that's not what happened. 75 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: All the other things happened too. But there were people 76 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: out there saying Pretty had the gun on him. He 77 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 2: didn't have his gun in his hand, he had a 78 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: gun on him. Some people saying, well, you don't bring 79 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: a you don't bring a gun to an event like this, 80 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: And I say out loud, what are you talking about? 81 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: Out Well, you don't bring a loaded gun to a protest. 82 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this again, what are you talking about? 83 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: This was Scott Besant on ABC's This Week with John 84 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: Carl for. 85 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: The Veterans Administration. 86 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 4: And there's no evidence that he brandished the gun whatsoever, 87 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 4: in fact, brought arm. 88 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: Before brought a gun. Have you ever gone to a protest, John, 89 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: I mean, we do have a second amendimon in this 90 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: country that Jonathan, have you ever gone to a protest. 91 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: I mean, have you gone to a protest? I mean 92 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: I've I know, actually as a reporter recovering it. Okay, 93 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: I've been to a protest. Guess what. I didn't bring 94 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: a gun. I brought a billboard. Okay. 95 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: Now, if you're going to be involving yourself with interrupting, impeding, harassing, 96 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: intimidating ice agents, and in the tackling of you they 97 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: find a firearm, you are raising the stakes. We would 98 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 2: agree with that, but I want to get to it 99 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: at least a base point. The left is now defending 100 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: the Second Amendment. This is amazing. I'll bring a gun 101 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: with me anywhere I want, any time I want, and 102 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: any law enforcement officer who has a problem with it, 103 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: too bad. It was former Representative Republican Peter King who 104 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: wanted to put forth legislation that you shouldn't be allowed 105 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: to carry a firearm with the next number of feet 106 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: of a member of Congress. Tell those members of Congress 107 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: not to run for Congress. I don't want to hear it. 108 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: I have to disarm because law enforcement is doing something, 109 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: or because a member of Congress is walking by, Absolutely not. 110 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: I reject it, and I would say that anybody who 111 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: believes that not a conservative, and if that's populism, count. 112 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,679 Speaker 1: Me all the hell out. 113 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 2: Of course, you can carry a firearm to a protest, 114 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: what kind of thing is this? We talked about the 115 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 2: carrying of firearms and protecting one's self at all times. 116 00:06:59,080 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: One hundred. 117 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: Now go back to Homan and Bavino. It was Bavino 118 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 2: who stated that this guy was a guy looking to 119 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: do quote maximum damage a mascre law enforcement. That's an 120 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: intense conversation and we haven't seen any proof of that yet, 121 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: not at all. 122 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: But man, people are really missing the mark on this 123 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: firearm thing. You carry a firearm, if you want to 124 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: carry a firearm, you're doing it lawfully. 125 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: Okay, we're done here, nothing else to discuss. That part 126 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: is fine, and the political right missing a big part 127 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: of that, that nuanced argument. But now you're engaging proactively 128 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: to disrupt ice. Now when people say to me, he 129 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: wasn't engaging proactively. 130 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: He was in the middle of the road. 131 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: He was either he was directing traffic or trying to 132 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: stop traffic. I'm not sure which. I didn't know if 133 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: he was trying to move a car along or what 134 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: have you. And he's videotaping in the middle of the street. 135 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: That's what he was doing. It's right there on the video. 136 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: And as for the shooting itself, so what investigations are for? 137 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: And it might not be a good shoot. 138 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: Now, there's a lot of different legal theorist philosophies to 139 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: the idea of if an officer has yelled gun, the 140 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: other officers can. 141 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: Then act upon that. 142 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: And if his firearm did indeed discharge, even if in 143 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: the hands of ice agents, other officers could reasonably assume 144 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 2: that they were being fired at and then return fire. 145 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: So the idea of, oh, the look at the video, 146 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: he's clearly murdered. No one is engaging everything that leads 147 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: up to it, which a court of law would do. 148 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: And I'm certainly not going to react to leftists going 149 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: to some level of emotional paranoia and screaming, catterwauling. When 150 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: they said nothing about Lake and Riley, they said nothing. 151 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: No moments of silence from the NBA, none. But they 152 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: had a moment. 153 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: Of silence for Alex pretty did they have a moment 154 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: of silence for Arino z Utska stabbed on a light rail. 155 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: She was sitting there in. 156 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: Charlotte and got stabbed and looked at the attackers scared, 157 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: and then slowly died. 158 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Because she bled out. 159 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: No one, Well, these things just happened. They don't just happen. 160 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: Legal immigration is a problem. These people have broken the 161 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: law and many of them are violent, absolutely not all 162 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: of them. 163 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: But that's not the story. The law was still broken. 164 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: Plenty of people didn't pay their taxes, and the irs 165 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: with guns comes after them. 166 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: They're not violent people, they just didn't pay their taxes. 167 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: They're in a drug lord like this Canadian snowboarder dires 168 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: still comes after you with guns and they'll break into 169 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: your house. 170 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: It'll be an early morning raid. 171 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: And guys, they will put a gun at your wife's 172 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: head while they cuff you while you're in your boxer briefs. 173 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: Anybody question this. 174 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: We can't be selective about these things, can we. We 175 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: should be pursuing all angles to remove every illegal immigrant 176 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: from the country. That doesn't mean that there can be 177 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: moments when law enforcement is wrong. I put forth to you, 178 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: the law enforcement could be wrong a lot. Keeping an 179 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 2: eye on law enforcement is just fine as a matter 180 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: of fact necessary. But look at all these people screaming 181 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: and yelling and not recognizing the actions of Renee Cood, 182 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: not recognizing the actions of Olex Preddy. No, no, no, 183 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: no no, They're all just innocent. 184 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: People, all martyrs. Dear Lord. The Left is really playing 185 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: the Hamas game. 186 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: When one of Ice dies or gets injured or bloodied, good, 187 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 2: that's because they're here. When when a leftist dies, good, 188 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 2: that means more people be angry at Ice. That is 189 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: a that's a hummas thing. When a Jew or Israeli 190 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: dies good. 191 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: When a member of. 192 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: The Palestinians or some of them in Gaza dies good, 193 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: it means more. 194 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: Pressure on the Jews in the Israelis. That's messed up. 195 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: That's sick. No regard for life. 196 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: When you take a look at how much the Left 197 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 2: has been proactively supporting violence against. 198 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: Ice, they don't have any regard for life. 199 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: They're like, the ICE agents should just take the violent hits, 200 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: the attacks on their hotels and everything else, the destruction 201 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: of property, Oh yeah, just take it. You'll leave and 202 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: then and then that, and then everything will be better. 203 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: The left engages radical chaos and Unamerican activities and violence 204 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: and breaking the law, and the answer as well, if 205 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 2: you would just stop doing that, they would stop, but 206 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: you know you're doing something well, it's on you. No, No, 207 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: that is obscene and wrong and gross. 208 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: And you can't act like that. 209 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 2: And they're you know, we talked about this with Ed 210 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: Morrissey and I love it hotair dot com. People don't 211 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: like chaos, and they blame the party in power for 212 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: the chaos, which emboldens the left to engage in more chaos, 213 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 2: and then the right will get blamed for it. 214 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: I do not see it that way. 215 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: There might be a PR conversation, and it could be 216 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: that Baveno, who is the Border Patrol commander, could be 217 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: not handling it right when he states about this that 218 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: with the shooting of pretty, quote looks like a situation 219 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 2: where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and mascular 220 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: law enforcement. 221 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: That isn't what it looks like. That isn't what it 222 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: looks like. 223 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: It could have been the desire, but you'd have to 224 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: be able to prove that it isn't what it looks like. 225 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: That's a you know, it's again the pushing of narrative. 226 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 2: When Renee Good hit a ice agent with her car, 227 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 2: what was the first thing that came out I said 228 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 2: to This is interesting because they're trying to push the 229 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: narrative she's a domestic terrorist that quickly went away because 230 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: it wasn't connected. You have to be able to message 231 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: properly in order to get your message across. 232 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: I believe this wholeheartedly. 233 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: But I think the message should be we are doing 234 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: the job here and these anti American pro Marxists need 235 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 2: to be thwarted and stopped. And so we're gonna come 236 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 2: in with a lot more people. We're gonna arrest every 237 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: single one of them. We're gonna put them up against 238 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: the car, we're gonna cough them, we're gonna read them 239 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: their rights, and then we're gonna put them on trial, 240 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: and we're not gonna stop. And if they get violence, 241 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: we're gonna bring ten times the force to stop. 242 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: Them, because that's not how we do things here. 243 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: ICE agents work in Texas and in Florida, and you 244 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 2: don't have this. ICE agents work across the country. ICE 245 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: agents worked under Barack Obama, more deportations under Barack Obama. 246 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: You had none of this. None of this is about ICE. 247 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: It is about. 248 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: Being anti Trump and wanting to disrupt, if not destroy 249 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: the nation. Writ large, the Marxist is mobilized, the Marxist 250 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: is feeling emboldened, and they are supported now fully by 251 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party, which is Marxist. The end, we don't 252 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: have to debate it. Certainly we could say so in Minnesota. Certainly, 253 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: we could say so of Acasia Cortes and Rashida talib 254 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: in Ihano mar Certainly, we've got the City of New 255 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: York and Zarn Mamdani. 256 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,119 Speaker 1: We know this to be factual. 257 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: We have it in Chicago with the absolute failures of 258 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: people like Johnson and Pritzker, and we certainly have it 259 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: in Minnesota with I Love Tieneman Square, Tim Walls. 260 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: Peggy. 261 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: Who thinks you should protect trans kids with knives, she's 262 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: okay with children being abused and mutilated and thinks you 263 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: should put your body on the line to take on 264 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: Ice instead of saying we don't allow ilegal immigration, we 265 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: don't allow lawbreakers in the country. 266 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm the opposite of these people who are. 267 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: Saying, you got you gotta slow down, you gotta pull out. 268 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: What was Meghan Kelly saying you pull out everybody? You say, 269 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: all right, Minnesota, you're a sanctuary state, and everybody can 270 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: go to Minnesota. And then if we find any of 271 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: those people anywhere else, they get deported with no chance 272 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: of re entry. What a childlike position of pseudo intellectualism. 273 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: It's like, hey, let me just let me just show 274 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: you how cool I am. I'm thinking Trump should pull 275 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: Ice out of Minnesota today, writes Megan Kelly, and announce 276 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: you'll be no more immigration for it from Minnesota at all. 277 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: All legals in the US are encouraged to move there. 278 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: If any illegal is found outside Minnesota and gets some hoard, 279 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: they can never apply for re entry. What a ridiculous 280 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: thing to say. What a ridiculous thing to say. We 281 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: forego a state. We say that federal law applies everywhere 282 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: but there. That's our system. I don't mind if the 283 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: people in Minnesota suffer. 284 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: For who they voted for. I don't care if New 285 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: Yorkers suffer. It means nothing to me. 286 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: Now, there are people who live there who didn't do 287 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: anything wrong are gonna suffer. I can't necessarily help them. 288 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: But you're not gonna keep these. 289 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: People in Minnesota. 290 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: It's gonna spread, and you're gonna have violence in other places, 291 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: and other people are gonna die. She doesn't know this, 292 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: My god, How is she so damp popular that is ignorant. No, 293 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: we are either a nation of laws, a nation, or 294 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: we are not. And I would like to be a 295 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: nation of laws. I want to see the law applied properly. 296 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: People who violate the law, they have to deal with that, 297 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 2: including law enforcement. But these Marxist agitators need to be stopped. 298 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: Illegal immigrants need to be removed from the country, and 299 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: we should not stop doing that because that is what 300 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 2: I voted for. 301 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz in This is Tony Katz today. 302 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 2: I don't find this audio center Ted Cruz shocking at all. 303 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. In secret recordings, Cruz trash 304 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: is Trump tariffs advanced? 305 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not shocked. According to the story from. 306 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: Axios, and the recordings were provided to Axios by Republican 307 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: source that's always good, always great, made in early middle 308 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, Cruz saying of the tariffs that listen, 309 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: I told the President. If we get to November of 310 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 2: twenty six and people's four to one ks are down 311 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: thirty percent and prices are up ten to twenty percent 312 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: at the supermarket, We're you're going to go into election 313 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: day face of bloodbath. You're going to lose the House, 314 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 2: you're going to lose the Senate. You're going to spend 315 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: the next two years being impeached every single week. And 316 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: according to Ted Cruz, the responsor FM Trump was blank, you, Ted, Yeah, 317 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 2: I'm not surprised by this at all. 318 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 4: This isn't even a thing. If this, if that, then 319 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 4: the other I said the same. You know what happened. 320 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 4: The inflation didn't. The prices are not up ten to 321 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 4: twenty percent. 322 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: The four oh one k's are still massive because of 323 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: the AI investments. 324 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: Everything that way is moving up. 325 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 2: The market keeps moving up, but also does gold and 326 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: silver as a hedge against what the heck is going 327 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: on out here, Oh, the possibility of a government shutdown, 328 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: also because Schumer's back to that. 329 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: As for anything he said about JD. 330 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: Vance Vance a cruise thinks Vance is too close to 331 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson. 332 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: I hear that. 333 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 2: I don't even think this is weird. I think it's 334 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 2: weird that a Republican would leak it. That's a bunch 335 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 2: of scumbaggery. I want that guy fired, unless, of course 336 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: it was another center, in which case I want that 337 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: guy fired. Absolutely. It's the leaking that drives me nuts. 338 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: What got said? I would consider this the most standard, basic, 339 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 2: tame stuff. 340 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: In the world, in the world. 341 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: Yeah to me, he was was never a story, not then, 342 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: not now, not a chance. 343 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: Know how, keep it here. I'm Tony Katz. This is 344 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 345 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: Find everything at Tony kats dot com. According to Zelenski, 346 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 2: the security deal is signed. Ready, I should say, ready 347 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: to be signed, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. 348 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: Good to be here, good to be with you one 349 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: ready to be signed. 350 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 2: This is to days of talks involving Ukraine, the US 351 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: and Russia. They're in Vilnius and there Zelensky is saying 352 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 2: that Ukraine is trying to become a member of the 353 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: European Union by twenty twenty seven, calling it an economic 354 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: security guarantee. All right, well that's not a NATO guarantee, 355 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: is it, Because a NATO guarantee is something fundamentally different. 356 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: So I don't know how you now become a member 357 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 2: of Europe or become a part of the EU. 358 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: Which I don't know if Ukraine wants to be part 359 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: of the EU. 360 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: And why would the United States be okay with a 361 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 2: deal where Ukraine is part of the EU, considering that 362 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: on a foreign policy conversation, Trump would like the EU 363 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: to fall apart because the EU was created to thwart 364 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: the US and to destabilize the dollar. Oh, it was 365 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: created to be able to have a competing currency. Oh, 366 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: never mind, to try and create some kind of power 367 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: amongst European nations, and of course a oneness, which the 368 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: British people said, you know what, we tried this, this sucks. 369 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: No thanks. 370 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: So I must admit I've got a bit of confusion 371 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 2: there as to how that circle gets squared, But I 372 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: don't know where the rest of the actual deal is. 373 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: Zelenski acknowledge fundamental differences between Ukrainian and Russian positions, reaffirming 374 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 2: territorial issues, our position regarding our territory, Ukraine's territorial integrity. 375 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: Must be respected. 376 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: Putin discussing Ukraine settlement with Wikoff and Jared Kushner. 377 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: That was last week. 378 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 2: Kremlin saying they're trying to reach a peace deal, but 379 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 2: Kiev must withdraw its troops from the areas in the 380 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: East that Russia illegally annexed but is not yet fully captured. 381 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 2: That's the reporting from news Nation, meaning this is our 382 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: land and you can't be here because we took the 383 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: land and we're gonna now totally take the land. The 384 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: land is stolen, the land belongs to us. Suck it, 385 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 2: it's over. But we knew that was coming. We knew 386 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 2: that was coming. There's also a question regarding power, because 387 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: there is a nuclear power plant in Shaporsia, which is 388 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: to the east. Right, you've got Dnetsk and Lahansk, this 389 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 2: Dunbass area. Then you've got this area of what's known 390 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: as Japorsia z A p O r I z h 391 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: z h I A that is. 392 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: Not an easy one to pronounce. 393 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: It's occupied right now by Russia. Well, how do the 394 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 2: Ukrainians get power? Of the Russians control the power? It 395 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 2: gets weirder from here, It gets much much weirder from here. 396 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: So this none of this is easy. 397 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: But if the US Ukraine is ready to sign the 398 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 2: US Security Agreement for Ukraine is one hundred percent ready 399 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 2: to be signed, according to zelenskape Okay, so that's only 400 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: one part of it. How are you going to get 401 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 2: the Russians to the table. That is a completely a. 402 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: Different part of it. 403 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: Then there is, as I will dig more into, how 404 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 2: China has ousted one of its generals. This is concerning now, 405 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: according to the stories, the reportings, the general committed severe 406 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: violations of party discipline and state laws. 407 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: Stop it. 408 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 2: That doesn't even mean anything when it comes to China 409 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: and how the military is engaged and anything that Paula 410 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: Buro and Jijinping want to do. 411 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: That's it. And a guy gets disappeared. 412 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: Being investigated for allegedly committing severe violations of party discipline 413 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 2: in state laws. That's according to the China Defense Ministry. 414 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 2: The general served as vice chairman on the China Central 415 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: Military Commission, second only TG in military authority. Now, when 416 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: you are a communist and when you lead the communists, 417 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: all communists become what's the word of paranoid? They all do, 418 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 2: and you always think someone is plotting against you, moving 419 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: against you, et cetera. 420 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: That's always the way it is. So it's not. 421 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 2: Shocking that there are these changes that take place. Well, 422 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: the only thing that's shocking is that anybody could believe 423 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 2: that there was some kind of violation. 424 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: No such thing. 425 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: You also have another member of the Commission placed under investigation, 426 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: the removal of the latest military purchase since October one 427 00:24:52,560 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: of the vice chairs was was removed back in October. 428 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: So these people are removed and then replaced by loyalists. 429 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 2: The problem is they were already loyalists. So this is 430 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 2: the life of a loyalist. You are until you are not. 431 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 2: You are in until you are out, and then do 432 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: you know the way you sneezed it ruffled g the 433 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: wrong way, and then two months later you're in a 434 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: work camp. One could argue that changes like this bring 435 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: about other types of moves and maneuvers, as in, when 436 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 2: they have some new leadership, they look to ways. The 437 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: new leadership looks to ways that they can prove their worth, 438 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: which could mean movement on Taiwan or a whole host 439 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: of subjects things I haven't even considered yet. What I 440 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: know is don't believe anything at all that has to 441 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: do with how the uh the Chinese describe it. 442 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: Everything is a lie. 443 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: Everything, And then there is sticking on the On the 444 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: military tip, the Huti rebels are threatening new attacks on 445 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: ships traveling through the Red Sea because these ships are 446 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: getting into the Mediterranean. The USS Abraham Lincoln and others 447 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 2: to gear up for dealing with the Ran. Well, of course, 448 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 2: the Yemen based houtis are doing this because their backs 449 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 2: by iron. So of course they're threatening. Of course they'll 450 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 2: gauge an attack. Of course they'll they'll try and and 451 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: and shoot at aircraft carriers and other things. 452 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: They are been. 453 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: The Iranians are threatening in all over the place. If 454 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: you sow the wind, you will reap the whirlwind. They're 455 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: threatening the Abraham Lincoln, right, and they put out a bat. Oh, 456 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: it's a big banner that an artist and everything else. 457 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 2: And the banner shows the USS Abraham Lincoln with all 458 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 2: these bodies strewn about struna about it. Actually, yeah, strewn 459 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: with bodies streaked with blood. If you sow the wind, 460 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: you will reap the whirlwind. Iran got the living crap 461 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: kicked out of him by the Israelis, and the Israelis 462 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: I think held off. Never mind the United States taking 463 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 2: out the three nuclear facilities of the Iranians. And we 464 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: could have done more, and one should argue should have 465 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: done more. But no, no, you can't do that. If 466 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: you do that to the Iranians, you're starting World War three, 467 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: said Tucker. Just a reminder, I don't believe in everything 468 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 2: being a fight. I do believe in supporting the protest 469 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: esters in Tehran, which, by the way, this is a reminder, 470 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: did anybody actually believe for a second that the Ayatola 471 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: wasn't going to kill people? Washington Times with the reporting, 472 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: you've got at least forty thousand people killed or executed 473 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: in the protest shutdown. Forty thousand. Of course, of course 474 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: this is the case. Well, I got them to stop 475 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: executing people. With all due respect, mister President, you took 476 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: the words and you made the claim because you didn't 477 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: have our assets in position anyway. 478 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: It's going to take a while to make that happen. 479 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: But now the question is what is the plan here? 480 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: The the IRGC, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps saying they've 481 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: got a finger on the trigger of the US a 482 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: taxi Islamic regime. As we stated, you have to break 483 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: the IRGC in order to get the people to be 484 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 2: able to take out the iatola. If you can't break 485 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: the RGC, it's not it's going to be an outrageously 486 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: difficult thing to do for the Ranian people on their own, 487 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: it can be done. There can be a lot of 488 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: dead people, but you may already have a dead forty thousand. 489 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: That's that's sart of the issue. So what does President 490 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: Trump do bomb military sites? I don't know how that 491 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: helps the people boots on the ground. I don't know 492 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: anybody in America is going to go for that. I'm 493 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: just discussing the politics. And listen, everything is politics. The 494 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: whole situation regarding immigration in Minnesota and Ice, it's all politics. 495 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 2: Why do you think Trump just replaced put home and in charge. 496 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: Trump put Homan in charge because it's better politics, far 497 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 2: better politics, not even really deniable. Homan is seen as 498 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: a professional, and Baveno, who heads a border patrol, is 499 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: seen as being more careless in the pr of it. 500 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: You can't call You're gonna call people domestic terrorists and 501 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 2: it's not gonna stick. Then you're gonna say that this 502 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: guy Preddy, who I don't think is an angel, he 503 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: was there to engage in mass massacre and massacre of 504 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: law enforcement and do maximum damage. We don't have proof 505 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: of that, and it's being pushed back upon hard, even 506 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: by people on the political right. 507 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: Now. 508 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,479 Speaker 2: Part of the problem is we discussed is that this 509 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: might mean some people on the right say, well, no, 510 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: Ice has to change and Ice can't do this. 511 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: I can't do that. 512 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: No, no, No, everybody engaged in the violent actions and in 513 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: the usurping of ICE's power needs to be arrested, including 514 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 2: a politico and members of elected officials in Minnesota who 515 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: are on these signal chats and everything else. They need 516 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: to be arrested, cuffed, thrown in jail charged. 517 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: Let's what has to happen. 518 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: You're plotting against the government, You're plotting against ICE, members 519 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: of the media and Marxists and elected officials, jail, what 520 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: are we talking about? Has to happen. That's how you 521 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: have to deal with this. Then you got to do 522 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: a better job. That's all there is. But thinking that 523 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: somehow Ice is the problem here, I'll buy itself. Now, 524 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 2: I'm not buying into that. How ridiculous, How silly they 525 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: actually think they can win a pr war with this. 526 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: Can't let them win anything, cannot let them win a thing. 527 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: But back to Iran and what comes next after all 528 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: these warships appear in. 529 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: The med and in the Gulf. I don't know. 530 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: Where is the pressure point on the i its and 531 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: specifically the IRGC. How do you cut off the money 532 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 2: going to them to get them to crack. Show me 533 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: that and I'll show you a free Iranian people. I'm 534 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. Find everything over 535 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 2: at tonykats dot com. 536 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 5: The problem is not the science of creating the vaccine. 537 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 5: The problem was the public policy and how to use 538 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 5: the vaccine. The vaccine should have never been mandated. It 539 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 5: wasn't never meant to prevent transmission. It didn't prevent transmission. 540 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 5: Probably was a misnomer to call it a vaccine. It's 541 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 5: really more like a medicine. It doesn't stop infection. Well, 542 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 5: thank you so much, doctor Redfield. 543 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 2: He was the head of the CDC and now sitting 544 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: with the Heritage Foundation. 545 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: You know, we shouldn't have said this. We shouldn't have 546 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: said that. We shouldn't have forced it on people. Oh really, 547 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: no kidding. 548 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. It is infuriating to hear 549 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,479 Speaker 2: this from him. 550 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 5: Children should have never been vaccinated. People shouldn't have been 551 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 5: mandated to be vaccinated to go to. 552 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: School and work. 553 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 5: So the policy side was totally misplayed. Okay, and I 554 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 5: know the vaccine came out on fourteenth December and I 555 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 5: was out of office on January twenty, so unfortunately I 556 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 5: had very little influence on the policy but I did 557 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 5: argue that it should be a vaccine that we should 558 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 5: use for the vulnerable, but put it in the nursing homes, 559 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 5: put it in insisted living don't mandate this vaccine didn't 560 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 5: belong in children. So a lot of overreach, and as 561 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 5: a consequence, the mRNA was a new technology. It hadn't 562 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 5: you know, we don't know all of the potential negative consequences. 563 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 5: I'll say this briefly because I see the timer when 564 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 5: I give you an mRNA vaccine, and I've talked to 565 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 5: the FDA and others about this. So I give you 566 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 5: an mRNA vaccine. I don't know how much spike protein 567 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 5: you make. I turn you into a spike protein factory. 568 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 5: I think the FDA should know how much protein do 569 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 5: you make? 570 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: We weren't even allowed to have these conversations because we 571 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: were told we were anti science and we were. 572 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: Gonna get Grandma killed. 573 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: They knew it didn't stop transmission, yet there were the 574 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 2: ladies on the view saying it did and if you didn't, 575 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: you were gonna kill Grandma. It's obscene, and in everything 576 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: I look at now it is. So it's not even 577 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: the attempt because I don't mind the attempt, and I 578 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: think there's something valuable about Operation Warp Speed, and I 579 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: don't think we should throw the baby out with the 580 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 2: bathwater when I see the desire for control, the desire 581 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: to keep people from speaking. When I take a look 582 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 2: at what's happening in Minnesota, I get the same exact vibes. Oh, 583 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: I don't believe any of this. This is a small 584 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: group of people trying to dictate what others are feeling. 585 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: And they're getting back up from people in the NBA 586 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: and other places, and oh, this is terrible, and oh 587 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: look what ICE is doing. Look what's happening to Ice. 588 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: Look what's happening to America. Look at the people supporting 589 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: a legal immigrants, look at the people supporting violence. And 590 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: they're all on the political left. Why can't we say that, 591 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 2: Oh yes we can. We just need to be saying 592 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: it very clearly. They're trying to move a narrative that 593 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 2: ICE is doing this and destructive and it's not American. 594 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 2: You tell Bill Clinton with his letters to sit down. 595 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: It is the left that is violent and it has. 596 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: To be stopped. 597 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 2: And I think the arrests have to be massive and fierce, 598 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 2: and the idea that Tom Homan is going to be 599 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 2: taking over. 600 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 1: Now, I say good, I think that's solid. 601 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 2: I'm not even necessarily an anti Bovino guy, the Border 602 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 2: Patrol commander Greg Bavino. But if you want to put 603 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 2: a different face on it, you want to have a 604 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: more professional look to it, put in a guy who's 605 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: known to be able to handle the thing, who could 606 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 2: better handle the press, who could better handle it all. 607 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 2: And he's proven himself in this regard. No problem there whatsoever. 608 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 2: But one should not stop removing illegal immigrants from Minneapolis 609 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: or anywhere else. And those people engaged in violent attack 610 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: need to be called out as violent criminals. Marxists in 611 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: connection with a lection did leftist officials and leftist media. 612 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 2: They have to go to jail, and you cannot acquiesce, 613 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 2: you cannot give into that because if they win that battle, 614 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 2: that spreads. When you're done, you leave, come back three 615 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 2: months from now, whatever the case may be. But no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 616 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: their tactics. People have to get arrested, people have to 617 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: go to jail, because this is a propaganda campaign from 618 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 2: beginning to end from the left. 619 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: All of this I don't argue IS's perfection. 620 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 2: I argue clearly that the left is engaged in full 621 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 2: on acts of violence because they think the violence gets 622 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 2: them a political. 623 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: Advantage, and that has to be ended. 624 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be told somehow that I side with murderers, 625 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 2: if I side with fascists because of my comments, I 626 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: ain't apologize and for a damn thing, and neither should. 627 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,760 Speaker 1: You find everything at Tony Katz dot com. Tomorrow, everyone 628 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: take care