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Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel. Do you believe these characters are weirdos?

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Speaker 2: I thought I saw Nigel on West Washington moving some

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Speaker 2: orange cones. It actually it wasn't him.

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Speaker 1: Is it just a construction guy that looked like Nigel?

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Speaker 2: It was it was just somebody standing out there with

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Speaker 1: He took the day off so we could do a

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Speaker 1: side hustle Christmas scratch.

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Speaker 2: I wish somebody would do something because if you're coming

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Speaker 2: downtown to enjoy the Circle of Lights this weekend, well

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Speaker 2: give yourself some extra time. You know, there's no construction

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Speaker 2: going on anywhere else in the state because all of

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Speaker 2: the cones right now are on Washington.

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Speaker 1: Every orange barrel in the state is being used in

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis right now. No more construction guys. Sorry, we got

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Speaker 1: it all here taken care of.

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Speaker 2: It is the Hammer Nigel show. Hammer and Nigel both

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Speaker 2: have the day off. My name is Casey Daniels, and

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Speaker 2: that is Jim joining me in the studio. You actually

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Speaker 2: took a drive over the Little Eagle Creek, didn't you,

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Speaker 2: Because Washington's open on that way.

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Speaker 1: I just open the Little Eagle Creek over West Washington

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Speaker 1: that has been closed for what three years. Finally opened

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Speaker 1: up this week and I did drive by it. Now

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Speaker 1: there's still some lane restrictions, but it's a nice bridge,

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Speaker 1: I bet really nice. Took them three years to knock

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Speaker 2: I would it take eighteen months to build the Empire

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty feet on a bridge.

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Speaker 1: On a bridge. Yeh, it's glorious. It's wonderful. The road

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Speaker 1: is still a total disaster all around it, but that

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Speaker 2: It's glorious. It's so luxurious. So last week, the House

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Speaker 2: and the Senate they both set January fifth as the

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Speaker 2: date that lawmakers would start the new legislative session. But

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Speaker 2: then today some news came out and to talk about that,

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Speaker 2: we're joined on the WIBC hotline by one Rob Kendall,

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Speaker 2: our residential redistricting expert, and he's at his residence actually

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Speaker 2: the Western Command center of Kendall, Inc. Rob Kendall, were

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Speaker 2: you surprised by this news that the House confirmed that

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Speaker 2: they will they will start their session on December first.

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Speaker 3: And now the Senate has folded and said they will

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Speaker 3: start on December eighth, and I think that is the

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Speaker 3: takeaway from everybody is that these guys and girls don't

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Speaker 3: things that could have moved them to start early, property taxes,

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Speaker 3: utility builds, the mass corruption and conflicts of interest with

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Speaker 3: the IDC gas tax, all of these things. No, it's

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Speaker 3: this redistrict thing, and they're just pretty honest about it. Now.

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Speaker 3: They know they're probably going to get beaten the midterm

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the House came out and said they're going

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Speaker 2: to go on December first, and then just a little

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Speaker 2: while later, the Senate came out and said December eighth.

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Speaker 2: Rod Bray said, the issue of redrawing Indiana's congressional maps

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Speaker 2: mid cycle has received a lot of attention, causing strife

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Speaker 2: here in this state, and to resolve the issue, the

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Speaker 2: Senate intends to reconvene. Does this mean that Rob Braid

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Speaker 3: Well, look, these guys lie about everything, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's one thing to say, well, I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 3: we'll think about it. We'll see. He has repeatedly declared

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Speaker 3: But that's the thing. The truth doesn't matter anymore. People's

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Speaker 4: And that's what this is about.

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Speaker 3: This is about pressure from people who don't live in Indiana.

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Speaker 3: We have seen what the polling in Indiana shows people

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Speaker 3: don't want it. We have seen that rally. They got

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Speaker 3: We've seen the town hall. There is no Indiana based

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Speaker 3: should be outraged about that. Whether there's two more Jefferson

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Speaker 3: They're not putting this effort into somebody that's going to

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Speaker 2: What do you think changed within the senacaucus to the

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Speaker 3: Well, Homer Simpson once that. I guess some people never

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Speaker 3: over their head. It's just you just look at our

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Speaker 3: They're looking at rigging the maps to bail themselves out

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Speaker 3: for the bad governance. Is anything more affordable?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Is the spending any better?

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Speaker 3: And those were the two things they got elected to do,

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Speaker 3: and as usual, they like to everybody about it.

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Speaker 1: So, rob my perception has always been that, for the

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Speaker 1: most part, at least, the perception is is that Todd

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Speaker 3: Well, they definitely share a brain, and I think that's

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Speaker 3: You have two men sharing one brain. But yeah, I

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Speaker 3: was that? I mean, somebody made the point Jim the

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Speaker 3: these articles. He said, why don't we take all these

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Speaker 1: I saw that. I think you might have gotten that

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Speaker 1: later it comes out in the paper. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, plagiarism is the greatest form of flattery. You

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Speaker 1: But that's my point.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you, if the Republicans have such great ideas

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Speaker 3: everybody's very happy with the Republicans, then that's a toss

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Speaker 3: up district. I mean it leans Democrat, but it's an

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Speaker 3: easy to be an easily winnable district. They don't want

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Speaker 3: And it's just gross when you see these people like

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Speaker 3: you just look at this and go, how about me

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Speaker 3: for once? How about you put the party in Trump

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Liz Brown did tweet out earlier today that she'll

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Speaker 2: and she wants to get this done. How quickly do

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Speaker 2: you think a bill realistically could be drafted, debated, and

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Speaker 3: Well, think about that. So the Senates are going to

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Speaker 3: meet until the aid. They'll see the maps for what

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Speaker 3: a week at most? Usually this is a four to

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Speaker 3: six month process. Just stick testimony, make sure we don't know,

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Speaker 3: Let's say it takes the Senate a week to pass.

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Speaker 3: It probably won't, but let's say it does. So January seventh,

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Speaker 3: I think is the first day for filing for office.

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Speaker 3: So that gives you unless, of course it's all rigged

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Speaker 3: could already be preparing to do this. That gives you

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Speaker 3: what a half a month to decide if you want

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Speaker 3: to run for Congress. Oh, and they're going to screw

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Speaker 3: all these local elected officials they're going to screw all

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Speaker 3: these county election people. And it's the equivalent of taking

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Speaker 3: a dump. It's equivalent of walking into somebody's living room

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Speaker 3: you don't know, taking a dump and going, hey, you

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Speaker 3: want to clean that up.

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Speaker 2: I'm really wondering if they've already drafted some maps up privately,

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Speaker 2: even though they haven't released any publicly. I've seen this

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Speaker 2: I've been kind of zooming in on the map rob

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Speaker 2: and honestly, I can't tell if they adopted a map

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Speaker 2: like that, if I would have Jefferson Shreeve or professional

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Speaker 2: officehopper Aaron Houchin as my ref anymore.

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Speaker 3: Now, when you checked on what was the screen name

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Speaker 3: ericson sixty eight? Was that person in Iran? Now that

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Speaker 3: we can see where everybody's going.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, you know what, I can do that right

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Speaker 2: now really quick? No account based in the United States.

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Speaker 3: Okay, very good. I mean that's the point though, Like

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. Let's say it's Shrieve, Let's say it's Hatch,

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Speaker 3: and let's say it's Mesmer. Let's say it's Bear. Let's

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Speaker 3: say it's Ruth Green. Let's say it's any of these people, Like,

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Speaker 3: any of these people do you say, Oh man, it's

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Speaker 3: the Republic's really going to be in strong hands now

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Speaker 3: that they're the they're the deciding vote. Like I just

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Speaker 3: look at all this and it's your life isn't gonna

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Speaker 3: get any better. They're not going to do anything meaningful

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Speaker 3: to fix the system they have broke over and over

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Speaker 3: and over again. And you just look at these people

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Speaker 3: like Andrew Ireland, who is so disappointing that he has

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Speaker 3: wasted all of this time not a word, not a

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Speaker 3: word from him publicly about the totally corrupt IEDEC, hundreds

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Speaker 3: of millions of dollars of conflicts of interesting corruption that

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Speaker 3: audit reveal. Not a word from him about that, Not

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Speaker 4: But every post now with him is oh, registricting nine,

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Speaker 4: Oh let's go baby. This is like, you just.

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Speaker 3: Can't count on any of these people anymore.

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Speaker 4: You can't come no matter what they tell you into running,

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Speaker 4: or how much they tell you they want it, or

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Speaker 4: how much they tell you're going to fight for it,

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Speaker 4: you just can't count on any of these people because

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Speaker 4: they all bend the knee, Because they're all about themselves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Rob, okay, so you're big gambling guy. You've got

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Speaker 2: It's a Midwest tree at the White House this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's eighteen and a half tall. It will be

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Speaker 1: Now? See that I talked about how it was always

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Speaker 2: US an auto pen. So let's talk about some Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: I mean, I do it, but I like turkey. A

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we're not normal, But I love Thanksgiving. It

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Speaker 2: It is the hammer and Nigel Show on ninety three WYBC.

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Speaker 2: So he's not being indicted right now. Federal judge dismissed

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Speaker 2: He's like, uh no, these are my headlines. I want

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Speaker 1: James Comy won their argument. No, this was dismissed on

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Speaker 1: Yeah. This goes all the way back to twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just needs he's not used to posting. He's

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Speaker 2: Well, the Press Secretary, Caroline Levitt, she put out a

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Speaker 7: What I will say is that everybody knows that James

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Speaker 7: this judge took an unprecedented action to throw these cases

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Speaker 7: based on a technical ruling, and the administration disagrees with

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Speaker 1: poor job of reporting this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Trump called out for prosecutions of Comy and

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Speaker 2: James and said that they were guilty. He said that

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Speaker 2: in their social media posts. But you had mentioned this

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Speaker 2: will be appealed, and of course the Attorney General, Pam Bondi,

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Speaker 2: she said, yeah, they're going to appeal this.

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Speaker 8: Sure, we'll be taking all available legal action, including an

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Speaker 8: immediate appeal to hold Letitia James and James Comey accountable

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Speaker 8: for their unlawful conduct.

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Speaker 1: Good reaction to his statement, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Going to keep going on this.

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Speaker 8: I'm not worried about someone who has been charged with

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Speaker 8: a very serious crime. His alleged actions were a betrayal

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Speaker 8: of public trust.

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Speaker 1: So what he's specifically being accused of is during in

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, somebody from the FBI leaked information to the

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal about the Russia collusion hoax. And then

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Speaker 1: James Comey was asked in twenty twenty on their oath

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Speaker 1: in front of Congress, did you authorize that leak? And

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Speaker 1: he said, no, that's That's exactly what we're talking about here.

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Speaker 1: And Pam Bondy's not stopping and so this is far

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Speaker 1: from over. This is going to be litigated for a

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Speaker 1: long time to come.

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Speaker 2: Is she not stopping though?

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Speaker 1: But she just said she is, Uh huh, what do

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Speaker 1: you you mean? I can't believe whatever Pam Bondy says.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're trying to tell me?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'd be smart to say that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pam Bondy not having the best month.

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Speaker 2: There hasn't been a lot coming out from I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know the files, they're on her desk. I just

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Speaker 2: go back to that all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pam Bondy has struggled ever since she became, you know,

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Speaker 1: part of Trump's cabinet. And this is another black eye

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Speaker 1: because it was the prosecutor that she specifically appointed that

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Speaker 1: the judge said, Nope, you can't do that. So another

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Speaker 1: black eye for Pam Bondy. I'm sure she's she's ready

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Speaker 1: to put her boxing gloves on and then still fight

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Speaker 1: for this one.

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Speaker 2: We'll see James Comy. He looks like the biggest cootie

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Speaker 2: I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: He does. And look, I mean you can sit here

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Speaker 1: and say, oh, you know, Trump's you know, practicing law.

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Speaker 1: Their look, James Comy is a bad dude, done a

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Speaker 1: lot of nasty stuff. If it was this thing specifically,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're going to find out and it's going

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Speaker 1: to be tried in court, and that's the way it works.

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Speaker 2: So cigarette use in Indiana has dropped forty percent in

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Speaker 2: the first three months after the two dollars per pack

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Speaker 2: tax increase, and they also say that smoking sensation programs

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Speaker 2: like Quit Now Indiana have jumped nearly forty percent over

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Speaker 2: the same period. So it looks like that more tax

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Speaker 2: is working to help people quitting smoking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just did search of this. The

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Speaker 1: average price of a pack of cigarettes in Indiana over

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Speaker 1: twelve dollars for one pack of cigarettes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll do it.

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Speaker 1: That will that'll cause people to quit. So not a surprise.

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Speaker 1: I guess this is going to mean I hate new taxes,

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Speaker 1: but it was coming anyway. People quitting smoking because it's

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Speaker 1: gotten so expensive it's a pretty good outcoming to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nearly fifteen percent of Indiana adults smoke, and they

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Speaker 2: say that the quit now Indiana has a thirty two

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Speaker 2: percent quit rate effectiveness.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. And you know this is probably just

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Speaker 1: the beginning. I mean, we've seen a forty percent reduction

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Speaker 1: in the first three months. My guess is we're going

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Speaker 1: to continue to see this now that cigarettes are I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that twelve dollars a palf or a

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Speaker 1: pack of cigarettes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is expensive, that's for sure. It is the

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Speaker 2: Hammer and Nigel Show. It's ninety three WYBC.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show.

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Speaker 2: Hammer and Nigel both have the day off. Good for

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Speaker 2: them getting a head start on their Thanksgiving holiday. It

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Speaker 2: is Casey and the Dude in the studio. So how

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Speaker 2: many people did you say are traveling for Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: According to the federal government, eighty two million people will

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Speaker 1: be traveling for Thanksgiving this weekend. Two million of roughly

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Speaker 1: two million by plane and I'm sorry, six million by

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Speaker 1: playing and like seventy three million by car and then

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Speaker 1: the other remaining I guess take the bus or.

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Speaker 2: The train or they're walking or they're taking.

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Speaker 1: A scooter, riding a donkey, something like that.

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Speaker 2: The Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy. He said that travelers should

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Speaker 2: dress more professionally at airports to encourage better behavior.

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Speaker 6: I think we.

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Speaker 9: Have to think about how do we do a better job,

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Speaker 9: how do we, you know, maintain maybe some of that

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Speaker 9: frustration we have as we travel this Thanksgiving season. Maybe

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Speaker 9: we should say please and thank you to our pilots

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Speaker 9: and to our to our flight attendants. I think again,

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Speaker 9: I call this just maybe dressing with some respect, you know,

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Speaker 9: whether it's a pair of jeans and a and a

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Speaker 9: decent shirt. I would encourage people to maybe dress a

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Speaker 9: little better, which encourage us, encourages us to maybe behave.

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Speaker 1: All a little better.

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Speaker 9: Let's try not to wear slippers and pajamas as we

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Speaker 9: come to the airport. I think that's positive.

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Speaker 2: I agree with him.

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Speaker 1: God bless Sean Duffy for somebody finally standing up and

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Speaker 1: say it. This is the world we live in where

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Speaker 1: this the Secretary of Transportation for the United States government

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Speaker 1: has to say, hey, can you please shower, put on

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Speaker 1: some deodorant and some real pants and shoes please.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he said shower. He just said, dressed

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Speaker 2: nice circuit.

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Speaker 3: I had.

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Speaker 2: Trying to add it.

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Speaker 1: As somebody who flew for a living, or at least

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Speaker 1: traveled as part of their job a lot. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I added this showering and deodorant part.

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Speaker 2: I would not fly right now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine. So we've got Fox News

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Speaker 1: on here in the studio and they're currently running like

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Speaker 1: that little crawler at the bottom and book, they've currently

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Speaker 1: got this bug at the bottom showing a running tallly

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Speaker 1: of the number of cancelations at all the major airports,

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Speaker 1: so like Ohair was over seven hundred and Atlanta was

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Speaker 1: over two thousand cancelations just today.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine your flight gets canceled and you're in

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Speaker 2: a separate city on Thanksgiving on Thanksgiving, put up in

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Speaker 2: a hotel somewhere.

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Speaker 1: If you're lucky, the airline puts you up in a hotel.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, where's that. What's the worst experience you ever had?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, If I don't this isn't the

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Speaker 1: worst experience, but this is certainly the funniest experience. So

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Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was flying somewhere and I'm

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Speaker 1: in the seat and the you know, jets on the

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Speaker 1: tarmac and we're ready to take off, and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, the pilot comes on. It was a female

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Speaker 1: pilot comes on and says, hey, we've got a bit

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Speaker 1: of a delay. Pilots have credentials that they have to have,

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Speaker 1: and the FAA won't let a pilot or a plane

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Speaker 1: take off if the pilot doesn't have their credentials. And

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Speaker 1: she's like, I can't find my credentials. And so the

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Speaker 1: ground crew and the pilot and the co pilot for

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Speaker 1: an hour, they're walking around the entire plane, walking around

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Speaker 1: the tarmac to see if she left it somewhere. People

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Speaker 1: are tearing the cockpit and the plane apart. Yeah, all

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Speaker 1: of this turns out that they had fallen She had

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Speaker 1: them around their neck and they had fallen off and

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Speaker 1: gotten lodged between her sweater and her shirt. So she

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Speaker 1: had with her they were on or the entire time.

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Speaker 2: Not a good look for female empowerment.

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Speaker 1: No, not a good look at all.

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Speaker 2: But funny, I had somebody. The thing that bothers me

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Speaker 2: about flying is when people bring their leftovers.

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Speaker 1: Bring food from and this just happened. We just flew

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Speaker 1: two weeks ago. Oh is it like Korean barbie smelled

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Speaker 1: like Korean bar It was like super vinegary and barbecue

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Speaker 1: e which in a normal setting I would love. In

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Speaker 1: an airplane and a conspined, confined space, not so much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know anything that smells, it's amplified on

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Speaker 2: a playe.

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Speaker 1: It's recycled air.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yikes, you're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show.

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Speaker 2: It is ninety three w ib se. Well, it was

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Speaker 2: going to take over the World this morning, but I overslept,

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Speaker 2: so that's been postponed again. Instead, we'll just take over

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Speaker 2: the Hammer in Nigel Show. My name is Casey. That

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Speaker 2: is Jim Hammer and Nigel with the day off today,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about what's going on at the Pentagon. They

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Speaker 2: announced that they are investigating Democratic Senator Mark Kelly of

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Speaker 2: Arizona over possible breaches of military law after he joined

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Speaker 2: a handful of other lawmakers in a video that called

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Speaker 2: for troops to defy illegal orders. Are they illegal the

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Speaker 2: orders that they've been given. If that's the case, they

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Speaker 2: need to go the jag officer or the Inspector General.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, alis Lockin came out over the weekend

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Speaker 1: and she was asked specifically on one of the Sunday

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Speaker 1: talk shows. Has President Trump issued any illegal orders? And

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Speaker 1: she said not to her knowledge.

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Speaker 2: Oh, actually, you know what we have that audioh I

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Speaker 2: spoke too soon, Allison. It's number eight. If you could

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Speaker 2: play that.

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Speaker 4: Right now.

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Speaker 10: Do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal orders?

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Speaker 7: To my knowledge, I am not aware of things that

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Speaker 7: are illegal.

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Speaker 2: Boom. So we're we're done here.

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Speaker 1: This is as Rob likes to say. Rob Kendall likes

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Speaker 1: to say, this is all dinner theater. There's nothing going

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Speaker 1: on here. That's real. Look, and I'm not one to

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Speaker 1: defend democrats, but what they did is that all these

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Speaker 1: Democrats came out on this video and said, look, if

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Speaker 1: President Trump issues the military an order that is illegal,

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Speaker 1: the troops should not follow it. M hm, that's all

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Speaker 1: they said. Yeah, And by the way, that's true. And

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Speaker 1: I believe that that's part of the oath that members

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Speaker 1: of the military take. That's part of what they're bound by.

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Speaker 1: They're not supposed to follow an order from the president

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Speaker 1: if that order is unconstitutional.

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Speaker 2: So Mark Kelly, he appeared in this video with some

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Speaker 2: other Democratic lawmakers, and here's just a portion of the

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Speaker 2: video that they put out. It's number six, Allison.

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Speaker 1: This administration is pitting our uniform military.

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Speaker 10: And intelligence community professionals.

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Speaker 2: Against American citizens like us.

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Speaker 1: You all swore an oath.

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Speaker 4: To protect and defend this constitution.

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Speaker 1: Right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming

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Speaker 1: from road, from right here at home. Our laws are clear.

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Speaker 1: You can refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 3: You can refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 1: You must refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of War, he came

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Speaker 2: out and he said, this video made by the Seditious

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Speaker 2: six was despicable, reckless and false. Encouraging our warriors to

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Speaker 2: ignore the orders of their commanders undermines every aspect of

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Speaker 2: good order and discipline. There are foolish screedsows doubt and confusion,

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Speaker 2: which only puts our warriors in danger. And then later

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Speaker 2: today he put out another post and he was directly

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Speaker 2: quote tweeting Senator Mark Kelly and he said, your medals

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Speaker 2: are out of order and rose are reversed. Because Mark

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Speaker 2: Kelly had posted a picture of all of his ribbons

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Speaker 2: and he said, when and if you are recalled to

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Speaker 2: active duty, I'll start with a uniform inspection. And that's

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Speaker 2: one of the things that they're saying that they would

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Speaker 2: recall him back to active duty just so they could

659
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Speaker 2: get him in more trouble.

660
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they can do an investigation, and you know that's

661
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Speaker 1: a separate issue. You know, if he's a member of

662
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Speaker 1: the reserves, you know his boss ultimately is Pete Hegseth

663
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: and President Trump. And so if they want to recall

664
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Speaker 1: him and beat him up over some uniform code violation, fine,

665
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: that's valid. But I just don't see anything. And again

666
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Speaker 1: I'm not one to defend Democrats here, but I don't

667
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: see what anything that the Democrats did as being specifically wrong.

668
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: They said that our troops should disobey illegal orders. I

669
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Speaker 1: think everybody agrees with that. That's spelled out in the

670
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Speaker 1: law and the constitution.

671
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're kind of alluding that Donald Trump is

672
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Speaker 2: giving out.

673
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Speaker 1: Well, that's the lawful order, and that's the issue. This

674
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: is the problem that I have. If you listen to

675
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: that audio again, they sit here and say the laws

676
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: of our country are clear. Actually that is couldn't be

677
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: further from the truth. Our laws are not very clear.

678
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: So you know whether or not what ICE is doing

679
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: and rounding up illegal immigrants, is that illegal? I don't

680
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: know the courts are going to have to settle that out.

681
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: This is the problem with that with that question is

682
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: is that a lot of times our laws are not

683
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: very clear and it takes years in court proceedings for

684
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Speaker 1: you know, some sort of decision to be made on them.

685
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: So that's kind of the great part in all of this.

686
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: And agree them alluding to the fact that Donald Trump

687
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Speaker 1: is giving illegal orders that I have a problem.

688
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Speaker 2: Can we talk about what's going on with Campbell Soup?

689
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Speaker 1: I hope we would.

690
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the there's this former Campbell Soup employee who recorded

691
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Speaker 2: a vice president and it was one of those hidden

692
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Speaker 2: camera moments, and it seems that the vice president is

693
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Speaker 2: making a comment about some of the food that's in

694
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Speaker 2: Campbell's soup and it's kind of gross. Take a listen.

695
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Speaker 2: I look at it, well, the analyst for Campbell's, Robert

696
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Speaker 2: Garza of Monroe, I don't buy.

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Speaker 7: It's barely anymore so healthy now that I don't want

698
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Speaker 7: to even I look at it.

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Speaker 1: Bioengineered meat. I don't want you to a piece of

700
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Speaker 1: chicken I came from a three D printer.

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Speaker 2: You. So he's alleging that there's bioengineer lab grown meat

702
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: in the chicken soup. Campbell's, of course, has denied it,

703
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: saying that all their meat comes from USDA proof suppliers

704
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Speaker 2: with no antibiotics.

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Speaker 1: Ever, this is a disaster for campbell The Holidays are

706
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 1: campbell Soup's super Bowl. I mean people are using cream

707
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: crea mushroom to make green bean castleroll. I mean that's

708
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: a lot of Campbell soups are used in a lot

709
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: of side dishes around Thanksgiving and Christmas, and so for

710
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: this to drop this week is an absolute disaster for

711
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: Campbell's soup.

712
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Speaker 2: Well, Campbell's is saying that this guy, he was an

713
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: it guy. He was never part of the food processing

714
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: of the soup. He has no idea what he's talking about.

715
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: The claims that he's making are inaccurate, and they terminated him.

716
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Speaker 1: And the it guy, the guy that was doing the

717
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Speaker 1: recording of the video, not the one that was claiming

718
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Speaker 1: there's bioengineered meat.

719
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Speaker 2: Well, they terminated him, and now he is suing Campbell

720
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Speaker 2: Soups saying that it was a toxic workplace and he's

721
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 2: experiencing retaliation and he's seeking damages for stress and humiliation

722
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Speaker 2: and emotional harm and economic losses.

723
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Speaker 1: So let me get this straight. You're you're an IT

724
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: guy works at Campbell's and you secretly record an executive

725
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Speaker 1: trashing Campbell's soup in the quality of their product, and

726
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: then you release that video to the public and you

727
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: get fired and then you FID Yeah, man, good luck

728
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: on that lawsuit. I'm gonna say that probably Campbell's suit

729
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: probably had some good, good reason to terminate that guy.

730
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Speaker 2: But don't you just have to go about your day

731
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: thinking that you're in a real, live Truman show that

732
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 2: you're being recorded anywhere all the time from any device,

733
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: whether it be metaglasses or somebody's hidden camera, or or.

734
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: You're walking along the street and there's a CCTV camera that's.

735
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: Recording you everywhere, like every portion of your life.

736
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: Well, the Mark Sanchez incident from a couple of months ago,

737
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean that happened in the middle of the night

738
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: and he was in an alley in downtown Indian ast d.

739
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: They got all sorts of angles and cameras on that. Yeah,

740
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, you have to expect that. And and

741
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: what was with this Campbell's executive just going off on

742
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: their own products.

743
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: And why would he fail that? To an IT guy?

744
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Speaker 1: It reminds me of the movie The Big Short, where

745
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: Steve Carell's character is talking to those two guys who

746
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: do mortgage broker brokerages and they're like, oh, yeah, we

747
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: don't care if people have income. We just you know,

748
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: give him the mortgage anyway. And he talks to his

749
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: buddies later he's like, why, why are these guys confessing

750
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: and his buddy goes, no, they're not confessing, they're bragging.

751
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: That's exactly what that Campbell's super executive was doing. He

752
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: was bragging and you know, sharing some information with an

753
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: underling where it's true or not.

754
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's trying to look like he was important.

755
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: Shot exactly how awful it is here, and I'm going

756
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: to share it with you. I'm not confessing. I'm bragging.

757
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. So you've heard us talk how WIBC is going

758
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 2: to be moving locations here in the near future. We're

759
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: not the only ones. We're not the only media outlet.

760
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: In fact, Indie Star is now planning to move their newsroom.

761
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: They've been inside the Circle Center mall and now they're

762
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: going to be moving to a new location and it

763
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: will be a smaller location. But you gotta think maybe

764
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: this is because of the digital evolution, right, they don't

765
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: need as much space.

766
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Speaker 1: Well, they were in one building for like one hundred years,

767
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Speaker 1: and then twenty fourteen they moved into the former Nordstrom

768
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Speaker 1: building in Circle Center Mall, and now here we are eleven.

769
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Speaker 2: Center malls being redesigned.

770
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Speaker 1: And so it's like in the Indie Star alluded to

771
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: this in their article they just don't need as many

772
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Speaker 1: people to run a newspaper today as you did ten

773
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Speaker 1: years ago, and certainly not nearly as many as you

774
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Speaker 1: did fifty years ago. So I looked this up. They're

775
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Speaker 1: moving to a building that is that is kitty corner

776
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Speaker 1: from a Gamebridge Field House. Okay, so going to be

777
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: right next to They're gonna be in the same city

778
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Speaker 1: block as Barnes and Thornberg, IBJ and BW three's if

779
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: you know where that is in downtown.

780
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they say the new space is going to offer

781
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: them ample room for operations in great city views. But

782
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: no escalator in the middle.

783
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Speaker 1: Of Yeah, they talked about that because they were in

784
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: the old Lord North there was an escalator right in

785
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Speaker 1: the middle of their offices and you get into work

786
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Speaker 1: and you take the escalator up to your desk you

787
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Speaker 1: views for them too.

788
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Speaker 9: It depends upon what the meaning of the word is.

789
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Speaker 1: Is this anything?

790
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: Is this anything? Brought to you by the Attorney General's

791
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Speaker 2: Office Here in Indiana. The Attorney General's Office reunites who's

792
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Speaker 2: yours with over one million dollars in unclaimed property every

793
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Speaker 2: single week, fast, easy and free to search at Indiana

794
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Speaker 2: Unclaimed dot gov. Well, just like that piece of production said,

795
00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: let's rock, is this anything? Guns N' Roses announced their

796
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six tour days. Oooh, they're going to do

797
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 2: twenty shows across the country.

798
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something I'm excited to see.

799
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Speaker 4: Gun.

800
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Speaker 1: I would love to go see Guns and Roses. Although, okay,

801
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: now that I say that out loud, here here's the issue.

802
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: A few years ago ac DC went on tour and

803
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: their lead singer, Brian Johnson was sick and couldn't so

804
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: they got Axel Rose, lead singer of Guns and Rose,

805
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: to fill in on that whole tour. I saw a

806
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: bunch of clips of that, and you know, as we age,

807
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: our singing voices aren't nearly as good as they used

808
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: to be.

809
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: Hammer just recently saw ac DC. He had a good time.

810
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: He said, he's done a great.

811
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Brian Johnson's back lead singer of ac DC,

812
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't with gun Axl Rose. At the clips I

813
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: saw of Axel Rose singing, they it wasn't good. It

814
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: wasn't very good. Now you still go and jam with

815
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: Slash on guitar and all the other guys in the

816
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: man still be fine, But Axel Rose does not have

817
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: the voice that he had thirty years ago. And and

818
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: then those high notes in Welcome to the Jungle are

819
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: gonna be are gonna be tough for him to hit.

820
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, but yes, it is still it definitely is something.

821
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Speaker 2: So general admission tickets go on sale December fifth at

822
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Speaker 2: ten am. They also have two new songs, Nothing and Atlas,

823
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: two new songs coming out December second. That's the first

824
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: material since twenty twenty three that they have released, and

825
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: the band is going to be fronted by Axl Rose.

826
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Speaker 2: They're going to have Slash on guitar, Duff on bass,

827
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Speaker 2: Dizzy Read on keyboard, and then some other members in

828
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 2: the band like Richard Fortis will be on rhythm guitar,

829
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: Melissa Reese will be playing keyboard, and Isaac Carpenter will

830
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: be playing drums, I'm trying to see it looks like

831
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Speaker 2: Tinley Park is going to be the closest they'll be

832
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 2: playing to us.

833
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll be there in July.

834
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, July twenty ninth, Guns N' Roses at Tinley Park.

835
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Speaker 1: And I mean really that's kind of I mean, you

836
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: want Axl Rose, you want Slash. Yeah, those are the

837
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: two big guys, and Guns and Roses had a lot

838
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: of tragedy over the I mean they've had four band

839
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: members die since they started. Steve Adler died in twenty eighteen,

840
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: as He Stradlin died in twenty twenty, Gilby Clark in

841
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: twenty ten, and Tracy Gunns died in twenty twenty five.

842
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: So actually, actually yeah.

843
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, stadium and amphitheaters, that's what they're going to play.

844
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: So yeah, they can sell out massive played looking big

845
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: venues easily. You're easily going to be able to put

846
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: twenty thirty forty thousand butts in the seats for a

847
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: Guns and Roses concert. This should be a good show.

848
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: It'd be a lot of fun.

849
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 2: You used to rock out a lot.

850
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: I'd like to think I still do on occasion, maybe

851
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 1: not as much. Just like Axel Rose, his voice isn't

852
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: what it used to be. Maybe my rock out in

853
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: as good as it used to be, but it's still there.

854
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to test your knowledge.

855
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: Ready for this, I'm ready?

856
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: What do you? I want you to be able to

857
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: name these Guns N' Roses songs in one note?

858
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: Now, come on, you're talking about a former Guns and

859
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: Rose former music disc jockey. Correct, who excels in name

860
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: that tune?

861
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: I know you do really good, but we'll see.

862
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: All right, I'm ready.

863
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put you up to the test.

864
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: Lena, get my feet set.

865
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, name these Guns and Roses songs in one note?

866
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: You're ready?

867
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: Ready?

868
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go, so easy, Sweet Child of Mine.

869
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: Let's see you are correct? What? I love that song and.

870
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: That song of all the Guns and Roses songs, in

871
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: my opinion, sweet Child of Mine stands the test of time.

872
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: We'll be listening to that song thirty years from now.

873
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's a good one. All right, very good? You

874
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: did that one? All right?

875
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: One for one? How many I got here?

876
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 2: You got five?

877
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: Okay? One for one?

878
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 2: Here you go. Here's your next song. Name that Guns

879
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: and Rose the song in one note.

880
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: Paradise City also does a pretty good job of standing

881
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: the test of tide paradise.

882
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 2: I mean, these are the hits. I went easy with this.

883
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah good. I could probably even do pretty good on

884
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: the deep cuts too. But all right, two for two,

885
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: let's keep here we go.

886
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: Name this Guns and Roses song in one note.

887
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 1: That's welcome to the Jungle and Alison classic guitar.

888
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 2: Correct. Let this one roll for a minute.

889
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: So good. I remember the first time I heard this song,

890
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: I was I was blown away. Yeah, it's like nothing

891
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: I had ever heard before. Is incredible.

892
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna slow it down. It's time for an

893
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: all skate.

894
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you got I can do. I can

895
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: do the slow ones.

896
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 2: Name this Guns and Roses song in one.

897
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: Note patience, easy, patience, Come on. I thought this was

898
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: gonna be hard.

899
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 2: No, not so much.

900
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: Apparently those are like their big four songs. So getting

901
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,479
Speaker 1: a little deeper here on the last one.

902
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: All right, got one left and you get this one.

903
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 2: It's you did a clean Name this Guns and Roses

904
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: song in one note.

905
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: November rain. I still got it, still got it, still

906
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: got it.

907
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 2: We're experiencing some November rain today.

908
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: Those I was expecting, like maybe a mister Brownstone or

909
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: a rocket queen, or look at you something even deeper

910
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: than that. That's got that's all right, that's pretty proud

911
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: of myself. Five or five?

912
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 2: I mean, how many times did you play Sweet Child

913
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: of Mind?

914
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 6: Oh?

915
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: My god, so many times every day for decades? Yeah,

916
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: that song was always on the right.

917
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: Hey, Allison, can you cueue it up one more time?

918
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 2: It was a sweet Child Child of Mine? Yeah, it's

919
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 2: such a good one, right. Yeah.

920
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: That Appetite for Destruction was an incredible album. That was

921
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: their debut album. How much would you pay to see

922
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: guns and Roses and comments back then, like from nineteen

923
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: from the late eighties, like the late eighties, guns and

924
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: Roses in their prime today, more than you would be

925
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: comfortable with me spending. I'd pay them, doubt it. I'd

926
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: pay a lot.

927
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: Hey, speaking of paying more than you'd be comfortable for

928
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: did you hear the latest? The US national debt has

929
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: now passed thirty nine trillion dollars.

930
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: I'd pay that much to see guns and Roses?

931
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: Oh man, it was thirty six trillion when Donald Trump

932
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: took office. Trump's administration has added nearly three trillion dollars

933
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 2: in eleven months.

934
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 1: So since the first of the year. We've added three

935
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: trillion dollars to the national debt and we've got what

936
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: four or five maybe five six weeks left. I think

937
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: we can if we try hard, we can get to

938
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: four trillion.

939
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 2: Come on, I want to try hard.

940
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: Trump can find something to spend some money on.

941
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: That's the thing. Stop spending money. It's at this point

942
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: it's mathematically impossible to pay it off. Anything we pay

943
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 2: down for the debt, it's just an interest. We're not

944
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: even we're not even getting to the meat of it.

945
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is you want to know why the

946
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: cost of living is out of control? That's what drives

947
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: inflations because the government has thrown so much money into

948
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: the system, especially during COVID and since COVID. That's why

949
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: everything costs more than it used to. That's your that

950
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: you can find. That's the single point of failure for

951
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: why inflation and cost of living as well well.

952
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: And we had the big government shut down and they

953
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: passed that continuing resolution and all that did was past

954
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 2: Biden's spending.

955
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: Right, stay with Biden's spending levels. Awesome, what a win

956
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: for us? Great or a loss?

957
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: Hammer and Nigel both have the day off today. My

958
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: name is Casey Daniels. That is Jim who is joining

959
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: me in the studio, and Donald Trump apparently getting what

960
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 2: he wants. Maybe we'll see when the vote actually happens.

961
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: But it was announced today that the Indiana House will

962
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: be returning next week to address redistricting on December first,

963
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: and then a few hours later Sennet said, yeah, us too,

964
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 2: We'll come back on December eighth, And that is quite

965
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 2: a reversal from what they previously said.

966
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and at the end of the day, Donald Trump

967
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: has an incredible amount of leverage over the state of Indiana.

968
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: I mean, they've announced that one of the new Department

969
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 1: of Agriculture hubs is going to be coming to Indianapolis.

970
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 1: The Crane Naval Base is supposed to be a key

971
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: component of the Golden Dome that Donald Trump is building.

972
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: Indiana gets an incredible amount of federal dollars. I mean,

973
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: if Donald Trump wants to play dirty, and he very

974
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: well may be, there's an incredible amount of leverage that

975
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: he can influence over Indiana lawmakers.

976
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: It does make you wonder what's going on with Rod

977
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: Bray though, because he's been saying we don't have the

978
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: votes all along. He confirmed that the Chamber will convene.

979
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: He said the issue of redrawing Indiana's congressional maps mid

980
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: cycle has received a lot of attention and is causing

981
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 2: strife here in our state pretty much. The strife being

982
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 2: that he's having a public argument with the governor about

983
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: the redistricting.

984
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: And it's going to be fascinating to see how this

985
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: plays out, because you would assume that they Okay, they

986
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: moved up their schedule. They said we're not going to

987
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: come back until after the first two year. Now both

988
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: the House Incentative said we're coming back first week in December. Now,

989
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: obviously something has changed, and you would think you would

990
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: think that both sides would have the votes at this

991
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: point are going today they've made this change, or the

992
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: other possibility.

993
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 2: Is Rod Bray just wants to put it to an end.

994
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: That's right. Maybe Rod Bray is just sitting here going.

995
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 2: Look, I've had enough of this conversation.

996
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: To protect Governor Braun as much as I can, because

997
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: if they put this up to a vote in the

998
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: Senate and it fails, that is not good for Governor Braun.

999
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this early gavel does carry a price tag.

1000
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: Legislative leaders. They say that recommitting in December won't increase

1001
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: the overall cost of the twenty six session. But the

1002
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: legislative staff, they said that each chamber is currently scheduled

1003
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: to meet for one week at a time. Once the

1004
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: chamber convenes, members are eligible for the full legislative business

1005
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 2: per diem. How much is that? Two hundred and thirteen

1006
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: dollars per day and.

1007
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: Two hundred and thirteen dollars a day. That's what every

1008
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: single member of the General Assembly gets for every day.

1009
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: They're in s if they commute from outside of Marion County. Additionally,

1010
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: they qualify for mileage reimbursement at seventy cents per mile.

1011
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 2: I mean, these lawmakers, they've got a fixed annual salary, right,

1012
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: but then when you add.

1013
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: Up the per per diem is part of it. It

1014
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: puts a part time job. You're getting over seventy grand

1015
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: a year.

1016
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: Kuching, Kuching. Sure, no maps have been released, by the way.

1017
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: Still no maps, Still no maps, But at least we

1018
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: do have some dates for when the Senate in the

1019
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: House are going to be back in.

1020
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 2: Sech vote on something nobody has ever seen officially transparently

1021
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: by the way.

1022
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: It is going to be fascinating to see how this

1023
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: plays out. I still think there is a greater than

1024
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: zero percent chance that they put it to a vote

1025
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: in the Senate and it fails. I think that's unlikely,

1026
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: but it's like I said, greater than zero percent chance

1027
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: that that's what happens.

1028
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: You've got to wonder why though, Rod Bray changed his mind,

1029
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: because he was saying January, Nope, we don't have the votes.

1030
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: We're coming in January, and then all of a sudden, okay,

1031
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: well come in December.

1032
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 1: A certain amount of good is to bed. I believe

1033
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: that a certain amount of this is him just washing

1034
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: his hands over all this being like, you know what,

1035
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm tired of fighting you guys. If this is what

1036
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: you want, then do it. And if it fails, so

1037
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: be it. It's gonna look terrible on Braun, who's been

1038
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: the leader pushing all of this, and if it doesn't happen,

1039
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: and if it doesn't happen, and break and sit here

1040
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: and say, hey, I put it up to a vote,

1041
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: didn't go. Yeah, he did the best I could. We're

1042
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: onto whatever Sete.

1043
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 2: Everybody keeps threatening him with primary. He's he's in office

1044
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: till twenty eight.

1045
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just won reelection, so he's still got three

1046
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: years until he's going to be back up for election again.

1047
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: And by that time, the whole world's gonna change. In

1048
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: three years, everybody's gonna forget about this redistricting.

1049
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 2: In perhaps perhaps they will.

1050
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: And he's well liked in his district so and well funded.

1051
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: Look at his campaign finance reports. Rod Bray gets a

1052
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: lot of money going his way, and everybody thinks that

1053
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: primary ing him is going to be something easy. Ah,

1054
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: we's got to throw some money out there, find a candidate. Fine,

1055
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: and then no, no, yeah.

1056
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 2: You got ten, ten to twenty million in your back pocket.

1057
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: A state senators.

1058
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: Ridiculous, ridiculous, And they're threatening to do that with all

1059
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: the state senators who vote, knowing a fifty to one

1060
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 2: hundred million people in primarium.

1061
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: People have come out and said, you know what, if

1062
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 1: we were to take all that money that you want

1063
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: to use to prime, put it into a good campaign.

1064
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: Put it into some good campaigns in the seventh and

1065
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 1: first district for Republicans, you might actually win those seats.

1066
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 2: Or how about just govern better. Here's an idea. Just

1067
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: make people want it to happen.

1068
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: Too hard, no way, no, what else you got? Not

1069
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: going to do that? Not a chance.

1070
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: You know what else I have is this article. And

1071
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: as your home for the holidays, you might be looking

1072
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: around your parents' home and seeing some stuff. There's this

1073
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 2: entire article and it's about the boomers giving away their stuff,

1074
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: and it's an avalanche that is crushing families. Retired parents

1075
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: gifting their items to their children, and the children saying

1076
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: I don't really want this, I don't have room.

1077
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: For this, I can't. I mean, this has got to

1078
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: be happening at a grand scale all over the country.

1079
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm fortunate. Both my parents are still alive.

1080
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: My dad's eighty seven and mom's eighty four. But they've

1081
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: done a good job of kind of paring down. They're

1082
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: not big hoarders, and they do a good job of

1083
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: cleaning out their stuff on a fairly regular base.

1084
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: There's still plenty of stuff there at their house.

1085
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not saying it's not going to be a chore.

1086
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: It's going to be a massive chore. But they've done

1087
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: a good job of kind of paring down what they have.

1088
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: So the baby Boomers and the Silent Generation families. They

1089
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: face stuff Avalanche estimated at worth one hundred trillion dollars.

1090
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: Come on, Nope, and.

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00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: I saw this like stuff in the attic. I mean, sure,

1092
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: maybe their investments and their stocks and their homes and

1093
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. But this article alludes to the

1094
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: fact that a lot of this is just junk that

1095
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: their kids don't want.

1096
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 2: Well, well, that's it exactly. You got to think that

1097
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: boomers they grew up collecting stuff and they were.

1098
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: The consumer generation. They were like the first consumer generation,

1099
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 1: so they bought stuff, a lot of stuff.

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00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: Where was it Where did we walk around this weekend

1101
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: Midland What was it Midland Antiques?

1102
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in downtown Indianapolis. Yeah, I can't remember the story.

1103
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 2: Something in antiques. And as we were walking around there,

1104
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 2: I just kept thinking, look at all this stuff. Part

1105
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: of it is that, you know, this meant something to

1106
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: someone at some time.

1107
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: This bust of Jimmy Carter that I saw sitting on

1108
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: the shelf, I think somebody bought that. I think somebody did.

1109
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: We heard him talking about it. But yeah, at some

1110
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: point that meant something to someone.

1111
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: But you have all of those antiques, and a lot

1112
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,959
Speaker 2: of it it was good quality stuff because it wasn't

1113
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: made with cheap plastics. I mean some of the wood

1114
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 2: furniture that they have there right today.

1115
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: Things are made to be disposable. You use it for whatever,

1116
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: a couple of years, five years, ten years, but it's

1117
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: built of poor quality and then you get rid of it.

1118
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: Styles change and you get a new one. Not back then,

1119
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: they built things to last for a long time, and yeah,

1120
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: they're still around. Yeah, that ugly couch just won't fall

1121
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: apart no matter how much you want it to. It

1122
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: may look horrendous and it means you may need, you know,

1123
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: restuff it and recover it. But the bones that they

1124
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: built that old furniture with were fantastic.

1125
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 2: I think you have to walk the walk of fine

1126
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: line there when your parents are trying to, you know,

1127
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 2: gift you something that maybe was sentimental to them.

1128
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: Hoping that you'll take it and see sentimentality to it.

1129
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: It's kind of like, Okay, it.

1130
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 1: Is a fine line to walk in the family dynamic.

1131
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: And my parents have done that to me recently. A

1132
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: couple of times in the last few years. They're like, hey,

1133
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: we're getting rid of some stuff. We've got this, do

1134
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: you want it? And we've been pairing down how much

1135
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: stuff we have now that we're empty nesters. And I

1136
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: told them in both the cases, I said, thank you

1137
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: for thinking of me. I really appreciate it. But no,

1138
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: but no, I think mom and dad thanks so much.

1139
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: I got my own issues over here. I not practically

1140
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: need my own storage, you know, with all the crap

1141
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:57,959
Speaker 1: I got in our place.

1142
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: We're trying it out too right exactly.

1143
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: Our daughter doesn't want it. No, she doesn't want everybody's

1144
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: just trying to hand it down their junk to the

1145
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 1: next generation, next generations, like, don't.

1146
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: Let me something valuable? How about how about a comic

1147
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 2: book that's worth nine million dollars? Now you're talking, we'll

1148
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 2: talk about that coming up. It is the Hammer and

1149
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: Nigel Show. It's ninety three WYBC. By the way, we

1150
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: got an update. We were talking about the antique place

1151
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 2: we went to over the weekend, the place downtown. It's

1152
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 2: Midland Arts and Antiques.

1153
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 1: Midland Arts and Antiques Market on Michigan Street.

1154
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 2: Two floors. It's so much stuff. Yeah, we spent some

1155
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: time walking around and looking at everything. Did not find

1156
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 2: a nine million dollar comic book, though, so a copy

1157
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 2: of a Superman Number one was discovered in San Francisco

1158
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: in an attic by three brothers, and it recently sold

1159
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 2: at a Texas auction for nine point one two million dollars,

1160
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 2: making it the most expensive comic book ever sold.

1161
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, this isn't and so comic books have been collected.

1162
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: I mean it kind of started in the sixties, picked

1163
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: up a little bit in the seventies. This comic book

1164
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: was made, I believe in nineteen thirty eight. It's the

1165
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: very first Superman comic I mean nine thirty nine, okay,

1166
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: because I was close, but I mean Superman, one of

1167
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: the absolute top superheroes of all time. What's interesting about

1168
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 1: this is so you know, people get these comic books

1169
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: and they get graded and for how their quality and

1170
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: how well conditioned they are. This thing has been sitting

1171
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: around for almost one hundred years in somebody's attic. They

1172
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: brought this to this company to grade. It ended up

1173
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: getting the highest grade ever in history for any of

1174
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: these Superman comics and something that is extraordinarily popular. So

1175
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: these guys just absolutely stumbled into a gold mine. And

1176
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: I saw. One of the interesting things about this was

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00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: their mom lived in northern California, which is a very

1178
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: temperate climate. The temperature doesn't change a whole lot low humidity,

1179
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: and she stored it in a non climate controlled place

1180
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: like an attic, and that's why it was preserved so

1181
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: well for so long. If they had been someplace else,

1182
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: like you know where it gets a lot of rain,

1183
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 1: certainly Pacific Northwest, a lot of humidity, this thing would

1184
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: have been totally trash by now, but it would retained

1185
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: its condition over almost one hundred years.

1186
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: Heritage Auctions did it. Did the auction and the vice

1187
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: president said that the comic book had a firm spine,

1188
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: vibrant colors, and crisp corners, and it rated it a

1189
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 2: nine point zero out of ten. Uh, maybe it could

1190
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: have got a nine point eight if they would have

1191
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: just scent it. No by somebody.

1192
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: It's incredible, Like I said, it's been. This comic book

1193
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: came almost out almost one hundred years ago. People who

1194
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: been collecting comics and getting them graded for decades and decades,

1195
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: and this one, all of a sudden happens to be

1196
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: the highest graded copy in the world. That's why it's

1197
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: the most expensive comic book that's ever sold.

1198
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, these brothers were just cleaning out their mom's attic

1199
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: and stumbled across this.

1200
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: What's fascinating is their mom died in twenty twenty and

1201
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: they just cleaned out. They just found it this year.

1202
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 2: So the Mind five passed away in twenty twenty, correct,

1203
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: and they waited until twenty twenty five.

1204
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: They didn't clean out. Yeah they didn't, or they didn't

1205
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: get to it. They just took their time, I guess,

1206
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: and did a little bit on the weekends. But yeah,

1207
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: it took them five years after their mom passed away

1208
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: before they found this. As soon as they did, got

1209
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: it granted and sold that thing.

1210
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: The brothers and the buyer who coughed up nine million dollars,

1211
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 2: all remaining anonymous. It is the Hammer and Nigel Show.

1212
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 2: It's ninety three, WIBC. Are you just waiting for your

1213
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 2: AI overlord to take over?

1214
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: Can't wait?

1215
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 2: I know you are. It is the Hammer and Nigel Show. However,

1216
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: Hammer and Nigel have the day off. My name is Casey.

1217
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: That is Jim. So let's talk about AI and data

1218
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: centers and all of it for just a second. So

1219
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 2: there is an AI industry super pack and they're launching

1220
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 2: a ten million dollar campaign called Leading the Future, and

1221
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: it is to push Congress to create a national AI

1222
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: policy and it would override any state AI laws.

1223
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. The problem is states are starting to pass a

1224
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: ton of AI laws and it's kind of a patchwork

1225
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: that are all different and so these national groups like

1226
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: it's really difficult for us to figure out the rules

1227
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: in these fifty different states. Hey, federal government, how about

1228
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: you come with some unifying kind of rules how we

1229
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: manage this going forward.

1230
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 2: So far, none of Donald Trump's executive orders today have

1231
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: prioritized any safeguards when it comes to AI, and they're

1232
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 2: not putting anything out there to change any of the

1233
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: state AI regulations.

1234
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, AI is a big it's kind of the current boogeyman.

1235
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: Everybody is up in arms over everything related to AI. Look,

1236
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: there's a huge future. There's going to be a ton

1237
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: of amazing benefits that come out of AI. There's going

1238
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: to be a lot of bad stuff that comes out

1239
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: of AI. But I think from a federal government perspective,

1240
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: we need to be really careful how we regulate it.

1241
00:59:54,120 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: Because guess who's not regulating AI. China, Russia, North ca Iran,

1242
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: all of our enemy.

1243
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: They regulate everything there. People do.

1244
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not the Yeah, but the state is

1245
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: going to take care of it. I mean, I mean,

1246
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: they live under authoritarian regimes and so the people just

1247
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: kind of do all the grunt work. There's not a

1248
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: lot of innovation coming out of North Korea, but the

1249
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: States certainly invests a lot into this and state operations

1250
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: like China and Russia and North Korea. I guarantee you

1251
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: they're trying to develop AI just as fast as we are.

1252
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: And if we put handcuffs on you know, American innovation,

1253
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: we're going to look up in five or ten years

1254
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: from now and Russia and China are going to be

1255
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,959
Speaker 1: leading the AI wars and we're going to be way,

1256
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: way behind.

1257
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: So Donald Trump does support a federal AI standard. He

1258
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: posted that the US must have one federal standard instead

1259
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: of a patchwork of fifty state regulatory regimes. He just

1260
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: wants one message consistent across the country. And there was

1261
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: allegedly a draft executive order that was circulating. But now

1262
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 2: you've got this super pack which is being funded by

1263
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 2: palent Here is one of them, and you know they're

1264
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 2: in the business of surveillance.

1265
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: And again, look a lot are I guess I come

1266
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: at this, like I said from the perspective of we

1267
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: don't operate in a vacuum here in this country, and

1268
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: if we want to handcuff innovation in AI, then we're

1269
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: going to look up in five or ten years and

1270
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: we're going to be, you know, behind the eight ball.

1271
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: In China and Russian and Iran and all these other

1272
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: countries are going to be way ahead of us. And yeah,

1273
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of bad that can come from AI.

1274
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: I completely agree with that, but there is going to

1275
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: be an incredible amount of good. Here's the here's it

1276
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: is coming whether we like it or not, and it's

1277
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: going to happen whether we like it or not. So

1278
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: we might as well lead the way and take charge

1279
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: as it relates to AI and get as many of

1280
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: the good benefits out of it as possible while doing

1281
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: what we can to mitivate mitigate what's going to be

1282
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: bad out of AI.

1283
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 2: This pack started over the summer with one hundred million

1284
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 2: dollars in funding and now they're going to be using TV, digital,

1285
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 2: social media ads and also an intricate organization with thousands

1286
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 2: of people calling lawmakers' offices in a single week. So

1287
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 2: beginning in January, probably going through the midterms, expect to

1288
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 2: be seeing and hearing a lot more about this national

1289
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: AI policy.

1290
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: If you are sick of hearing people talk about AI,

1291
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: you are gonna be You're going to be really miserable.

1292
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: Yon Bed is not going away. I mean, this is

1293
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: going to be the dominant thing that is happening in

1294
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: our country as far as technology is concerned, for the

1295
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: next five or ten years. Easy, and there are going

1296
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: to be a lot of great things that come out

1297
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: of it. Look, we're gonna get self driving cars figured

1298
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: out eventually, that's gonna happen, and think of all of

1299
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: that is going to change for the better. So much

1300
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: of what we do for starters probably going to be

1301
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: a lot less car accidents, a lot less deaths and

1302
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: injuries on the roads. Can you imagine somebody that's got,

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01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: you know, i'll say, an hour long commute into work,

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01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden they can work, well, they

1305
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: can work, they can watch Netflix, they can make phone calls,

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01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: they can do whatever they want on that. I mean,

1307
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: think about the productivity gains that are going to happen

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01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: with self driving cars.

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Speaker 2: Well, this all kind of rolls into the data center

1310
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: conversation and now residents in Pike Township they're concerned about

1311
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 2: the proposed data center there. There's a project that is

1312
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 2: calling for twenty thousand square foot a facility there. It's

1313
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: currently on wooded land and they want to turn it

1314
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 2: into a big data center. They've got a meeting coming

1315
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 2: up on December tenth at seven pm and they're going

1316
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 2: to review the rezoning of that area. And Amazon planning

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01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 2: a fifteen billion dollars new data center campus in northern Indiana.

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01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 2: This is up by Hobart. It's incredible how much money

1319
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 2: people like Amazon and Google they're putting into all of

1320
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 2: these data centers all across Indiana and the country. Yeah,

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01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: and when we think about the data centers here in Indiana,

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01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: that's nothing compared to what's going on in some other states.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Virginia's got over six hundred data centreer in sixty

1324
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: six And look, just to be clear, I'm not a

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Speaker 1: big fan of the way. While I am you see

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01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: the positives of AI, I'm not a big fan of

1327
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: the way the data centers are happening. Now. I don't

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01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: have a problem with data centers on their face, but

1329
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: it's the subsidies that are happening. It's the fact that

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01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: a lot of these communities don't want them in there,

1331
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: and they're being jammed down their throats. It's the massive

1332
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: use of resources like water. Yeah, I've got a problem

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Speaker 1: with all of that. Well, these data centers are all

1334
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: eventually going to get built.

1335
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: And the utility costs being passed on to the consumer.

1336
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: Sure, the electric utility costs. Yeah, all of those are issues,

1337
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: and I've got a problem with all of them. But look,

1338
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: these data centers are gonna get built somewhere eventually. And hey,

1339
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: maybe these multi trillion dollar companies like Nvidia and Amazon

1340
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,479
Speaker 1: and Google that are building these data centers, maybe they're

1341
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: just going to have to build them and not get

1342
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: tax breaks. That'd be nice. Maybe they're just gonna have

1343
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: to build them and figure out a way to power

1344
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: them themselves. See if the utility rates don't go up

1345
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: for everybody else.

1346
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: If you're can afford a fifteen billion dollar data center campus,

1347
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 2: sorry you don't need a tax break.

1348
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: But they're going to pit communities within states and then

1349
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: states against each other for these because there are going

1350
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: to be benefits to these states. Maybe I don't know,

1351
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: at least that's their pitch. Okay, fine, put them all

1352
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: in Illinois, if you want to, great, let Illinois give

1353
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: them all the tax breaks. I'm all fine with that.

1354
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: But these data centers are coming. I would just like

1355
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: to have them happen where we're not giving tax breaks

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01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: for them, where they're supported by the communities, where they're in,

1357
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: where they're going to be using power that doesn't affect

1358
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: the utility rates for everybody else. That's the problem I

1359
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: have with data centers, not the data centers themselves.

1360
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Speaker 2: The mayor of Hobart, where this fifteen billion dollar data

1361
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 2: center campus is going in, said that Amazon is going

1362
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: to cover the full cost of the infrastructure. They will

1363
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 2: also create construction jobs, although those are temporary, very temporary.

1364
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 2: And it would also generate nearly one thousand long term jobs.

1365
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 2: But will they be jobs for Hoosiers.

1366
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, maybe not. And again, I'm all for communities

1367
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: making this decision on their own. And it happened in

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01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: Franklin Township. Franklin Township didn't want that data center there. Great,

1369
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: it's not there right now. Now they're going to come

1370
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: back and try it again. But if these communities want

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01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: these data centers there, and it's fully transparent and the

1372
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: public knows what they're getting, and if they want to

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01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: take it here in Indiana. Certain communities. Great, if they're

1374
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 1: communities in Illinois or Kentucky or Ohio that want to

1375
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: take them, wonderful what I But the problem I have

1376
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: with is when there's not transparency and they're jammed down

1377
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: local communities throats to you know, when the community opposes them.

1378
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: I wanted to draw your attention to this guy. His

1379
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 2: name is James Fishback, and he just announced his run

1380
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 2: for governor of Florida, and listen to all of the

1381
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: things that he stands against.

1382
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 10: My name is James Fishback, and I'm running to succeed

1383
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 10: Ron De Santis as Florida's next Republican governor. I'm running

1384
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 10: for Florida governor so I can make life more affordable

1385
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 10: for you and your family easier to afford groceries, to

1386
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 10: buy a home, to raise a family, and when it's

1387
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 10: all said and done, to retire with dignity. I'll do

1388
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 10: that by stopping the H one B scam so our workers,

1389
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 10: especially our college grads, can get jobs again. I'll tell Blackstone,

1390
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,439
Speaker 10: Airbnb and foreign investors that know, in Florida, you can't

1391
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 10: buy our homes because our homes are for families, and

1392
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 10: I'll stop the construction of any AI data center that

1393
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 10: threatens to raise our electricity bills or poison our water supply.

1394
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 10: And I'll completely and totally eliminate property taxes for every

1395
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 10: Florida resident, because in America, you don't rent your home

1396
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 10: from the government, You own it free and clear.

1397
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 2: Can I vote for him?

1398
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: His name is James Fishback. That is my new favorite guy.

1399
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 6: Man.

1400
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: Did he take off all the things?

1401
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 2: He just announced his candidacy yesterday. Clearly he's coming across

1402
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 2: as a populace like he wants to do all of

1403
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: these things. Actually executing them is another. But he's been

1404
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:10,919
Speaker 2: taking some shots at Republican Rep. Brian Donalds, who has

1405
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's endorsement in Florida. But I feel like I

1406
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 2: would be one of those people who you remember the

1407
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: story of the people in Kentucky who were showing up

1408
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 2: at polling stations who wanted to vote against Zoron Mamdani in.

1409
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 1: New York City mayoral race.

1410
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 2: Yes, that was voted.

1411
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 1: That was a real story a couple of weeks ago.

1412
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I do remember me here in Indiana. Vote for

1413
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 2: that guy in Florida. We'll see where it ends up.

1414
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 2: Friday Night on the Circle is going to be colorful.

1415
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 2: It is the sixty third annual Circle of Lights. I

1416
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 2: AMPD says that they're aware of the recent shootings that

1417
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 2: happened at Christmas tree lighting events in Chicago and also

1418
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:52,520
Speaker 2: in North Carolina, and that public safety is their top priority.

1419
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: Lots of people are expected to be coming downtown for

1420
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 2: the tree lighting ceremony.

1421
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, fingers crossed. I mean that was a terrible story

1422
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 1: in Chicago where they had the shootings and some killings

1423
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 1: that happened at they're tree lighting there. So I like

1424
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: to see that statement from IMPD and fingers crossed that

1425
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: Friday Night happens safely and securely for everybody that goes

1426
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: downtown and enjoys the lights. We can see the monument

1427
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: right outside the window here. The WIBC studios looks great.

1428
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 1: They've done a lot of work on it. I was

1429
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: surprised at how fast they wrapped up the construction on

1430
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: the mind.

1431
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,799
Speaker 2: If you're surprised by that, what's going on forever?

1432
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: Okay, let me clarify on that. Yes, it has been

1433
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: going on forever. And last time I was here, just

1434
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: several weeks ago, it looked like they still had a

1435
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 1: lot to do, and it looks like they finished the end.

1436
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: They'd be in record time.

1437
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. So you've got the stage which is going to

1438
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 2: be located on the north end of Monument Circle, and

1439
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 2: pedestrian traffic is going to be open east and west

1440
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 2: of Market and Soft Meridian. Performances start at five pm.

1441
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 2: Santa will arrive and lights get turned on at six

1442
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 2: point fifty. I don't know what the forecast is for Friday.

1443
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 2: I imagine it would be it'll be cool, the sun

1444
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 2: goes down, Yeah, it'll be chilly. Dress appropriately. I AMPD

1445
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 2: says that they're urging parents to monitor your children and

1446
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 2: plan ahead.

1447
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: Have you ever done that ever in your life? Gone

1448
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: like the downtown and seen the big and not monitor

1449
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 1: my child the big Tree lighting ceremony. No, I did

1450
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: that one time when I was a kid. I grew

1451
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: up in the suburbs of Chicago. In one year, we

1452
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 1: all went down. I had, you know, my parents and

1453
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 1: four kids and my grandma who was living with us

1454
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,799
Speaker 1: at the time. All went downtown Chicago on Michigan Avenue

1455
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: to see the tree light up and then walk around

1456
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: Michigan Avenue to see all the decorations on the stores,

1457
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 1: store displays. But well you gotta want it. It was

1458
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 1: a lot of work, but.

1459
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 2: It's a lot different. You're not coming downtown on the

1460
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 2: Circle now to see store displays.

1461
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: Right, this was you know, forty years ago or more.

1462
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 1: But it was great. But I mean a great, great

1463
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 1: family thing to do.

1464
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 2: So you've got a new nerd Wallet survey that says

1465
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 2: thirty one percent of holiday shoppers they're still paying for

1466
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 2: last Christmas.

1467
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 1: That would yikes, Yeah, that would make me want to

1468
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: just throw up in my in my own lap that

1469
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: day I was still paying for last year's Christmas presents.

1470
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 2: That means that you overspent last year. Right, So you've

1471
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 2: got the US credit card debt hit one point two

1472
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 2: to three trillion dollars?

1473
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: Is that a lot? That sounds like a lot when

1474
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: you say that number out loud. That really sounds like

1475
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: a lot of money. One point two twenty.

1476
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 2: Four billion from the previous quarter. So that was just

1477
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 2: in third quarter of this past year. One point two

1478
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: to three trillion dollars.

1479
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a lot of credit card debt at

1480
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: eighteen percent plus a year interest. Yeah.

1481
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 2: So they say this, here's some financial advice, make a

1482
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: complete holiday budget for gives, food, decorations, and events and

1483
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 2: then just cut it in half.

1484
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: Is that what it was? Just down tory advice that

1485
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: needs to be our advice.

1486
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, just consider alternate celebrations that cost little or nothing,

1487
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 2: like maybe going downtown and seeing some pretty lights. But

1488
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 2: let's talk about some Thanksgiving recipe trends. Really quick, Google

1489
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 2: shared their most searched Thanksgiving side dishes and pies in

1490
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 2: the United States. What do you think the top side

1491
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 2: dish search is?

1492
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: So side dishes do not include pies? Or do they

1493
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: include pies?

1494
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 2: No?

1495
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 1: Okay, side dishes does include pie, and the number one

1496
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 1: searched Thanksgiving side dish, I'm gonna say it's mashed potatoes.

1497
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 2: Now, No, it's not even on the list, Come on,

1498
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 2: stuffing number one, Okay, I get that gap, followed by

1499
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: the green bean casserole, sweet potato casserole, cranberry sauce, and

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01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 2: then deviled A's.

1501
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm gonna guess that they based that survey

1502
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: off of how many times that item is searched, So

1503
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily what's the most popular item that served,

1504
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: It is the most searched, it's the most searched, So

1505
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: my guess is every one of those people are, for

1506
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,600
Speaker 1: the most part, is searching for recipe and mashed potatoes.

1507
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: You really don't. You don't need a recipe for mash

1508
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: How are you going to mess that up? Yeah, potatoes,

1509
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of butter of Oh wait.

1510
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 2: I know how somebody can mess that up.

1511
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 1: Don't even don't. Why are we going down this road here?

1512
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: You are a mashed potato purist, It's true, which I

1513
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 1: love that. Yeah, because everybody tries to fancy up their

1514
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: mashed potatoes. They put onions in there, or garlic or

1515
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 1: chicken broth or cheese or something like that. You like,

1516
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 1: just straight potatoes butter cream, that's it.

1517
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:32,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I know one Thanksgiving somebody tried to put

1518
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 2: a package of lipt and onion soup mix in the

1519
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:37,480
Speaker 2: mashed potatoes.

1520
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 1: Is that my dad? I think if my dad did

1521
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,719
Speaker 1: that one year, he thought he was and he thought

1522
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,759
Speaker 1: he was doing something special, like like making it nice

1523
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: for us. He had a good heart in it. He

1524
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna jazz up these mashed potatoes and

1525
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 1: make them special because it's Thanksgiving and I was families

1526
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 1: here and you go straight into those mashed potatoes. I

1527
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 1: remember seeing the look on your face. You're like, oh boy,

1528
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: say good, this ain't good. This is not good? Now,

1529
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: Will I probably loved him because I love all that.

1530
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 2: Actually, you probably for seconds. So the number one side

1531
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 2: dish in Indiana is stuffing.

1532
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that. That's the number one side dish.

1533
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. It is, I mean,

1534
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: a very popular. It's got to be right up there.

1535
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you think of when you think

1536
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 1: of Thanksgiving. You got your turkey at Grandberry and then

1537
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:27,919
Speaker 1: you got your mashed potatoes.

1538
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 2: Okay, and before we get your news update here in

1539
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 2: just a sec, the top pie search across the country again.

1540
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 1: Well, but you kind of need a recipe for every pie. Okay,

1541
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: let me guess the top pie search is pumpkind pie. Yes,

1542
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's the most popular. Wait, they have number two.

1543
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 2: Apple pie, then chocolate pie, pecan pie, and then sweet

1544
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 2: potato pie. And the number one most favorite pie in Indiana.

1545
01:14:58,280 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: Is it the sugar cream pie.

1546
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 2: It's not, it's not.

1547
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: It's not.

1548
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 2: That's like our hotel pie for Thanksgiving. Okay, they say

1549
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 2: it's apple pie.

1550
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: Apple pie all America, the heartland here of America. We

1551
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 1: got an America is Apple Pie. Yeah, let's get your

1552
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: news update.

1553
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 2: It is the Hammer and Nigel Show on ninety three WYBC.

1554
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:25,759
Speaker 2: The Federal Communications Commissioner Brendan Carr, he supports relaxing ownership rules,

1555
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 2: and that is to allow broadcasters like us to compete

1556
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 2: with big tech. However, Donald Trump, he opposes lifting the

1557
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 2: national ownership cap. It's currently at thirty nine percent of

1558
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 2: US households.

1559
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: So that's what that's from a television standpoint. I can

1560
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: own enough televisions in the country, television station in the

1561
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,560
Speaker 1: country to cover thirty nine percent of the country's households's.

1562
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 1: And when I get to thirty nine percent, I can't

1563
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: buy any more TV.

1564
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 2: Stations right, And yesterday Sinclair Broadcasting they proposed buying out

1565
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 2: the remainder of scripts shares and that will increase their

1566
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 2: stake even more. And that deal may not happen if

1567
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has his way. He says no, but the

1568
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:17,560
Speaker 2: FCC chair says, yeah, it's okay. Sinclair. They appear to

1569
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 2: be kind of confident though, that the CAP's going to

1570
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 2: be lifted eventually so they can surpass any of these regulations.

1571
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. So local TV, like all traditional media, certainly under

1572
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 1: a lot of challenges the last you know, ten or

1573
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 1: twenty years. What has really kept local TV going is

1574
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 1: live sports and the political dollars that they get. All

1575
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 1: the political dollars. Every other year there's a you know,

1576
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: a midterm election, and then two years later there's a

1577
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: midterm at a presidential election, and the television stations. Local

1578
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 1: television stations get absolutely dump trucks full of money from that,

1579
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: and local sports has done it really well. So those

1580
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,520
Speaker 1: two things are really kind of holding up local television

1581
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: stations from a financial standpoint. But the other thing that

1582
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: these massive TV owners want to do is they get

1583
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 1: economies of scale, so when they buy more TV stations,

1584
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: they can cut costs and centralized productions and make their

1585
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: businesses more profitable. And that's what Sinclair is looking to

1586
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 1: do with Scripts. Here and in Indianapolis, we have one station.

1587
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: Our TV is owned by Scripts, and if Sinclair has

1588
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: its way and can get the federal government to agree,

1589
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: it'll soon be owned by Sinclair, which I believe Sinclair

1590
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 1: is still the largest television broadcast ownership group in the country.

1591
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 2: They have just one station in Indiana.

1592
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 6: Is that right?

1593
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 1: I have to look. I know they have stations in Indiana.

1594
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 1: They certainly have one in South Bend, Indiana. I don't

1595
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: know if they have any others. But Scripts is the

1596
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 1: largest television broadcaster in the entire country.

1597
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and one looking to get larger and looking to

1598
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: get even larger by buying up Scripts. What remaining stations

1599
01:17:55,280 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 2: they have left TSA investigating after a passenger in Portland

1600
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 2: and brought a meat cleaver through security?

1601
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 1: Are you not supposed to do that? Is that out loud?

1602
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 2: Now?

1603
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 1: Well, guys can't have fun at the airport anymore bringing

1604
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: my meat cleaver through TSA.

1605
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 2: TSA says they're taking the matter seriously and they're looking

1606
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 2: at corrective actions, including additional training for security screening staff.

1607
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 1: How did somebody get a meat cleaver passed down?

1608
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 2: It seems like every time he say, does prohibit meat

1609
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 2: cleavers and carry on bags?

1610
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not a surprise. I would expect them to do.

1611
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: How does somebody get every time I fly and I

1612
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 1: go through TSA, they're always finding some I get pulled

1613
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,919
Speaker 1: over for special screenings. My bag gets separated for special screen.

1614
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 2: Like you're getting a prostate exam when you go through that.

1615
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: I could have, like, you know, an inch of water

1616
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,520
Speaker 1: in a water bottle and accidentally leave that in my backpacket.

1617
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 1: They're going to catch that every single time my toothpaste

1618
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 1: is too big to.

1619
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 2: Go through and TSA then three ounces.

1620
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,719
Speaker 1: Whatever the limit is, all of those dings. They seem

1621
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 1: to catch every single one of those mistakes that I

1622
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 1: make when I go through TSA. But this guy's got

1623
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: a meat cleaver right this way, sir, right, didn't you

1624
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 1: come right through here? You and your meat meat cleaver

1625
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: have a wonderful flight.

1626
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 2: THESA person must have not been paying attention to the

1627
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 2: screen as it went through the X ray machine. I guess,

1628
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 2: so I'm guessing happened.

1629
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 1: So, Kait, what is it? Where are you going and

1630
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,759
Speaker 1: traveling that you bring? You know what? I got my socks,

1631
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 1: I got a couple extra shirts. I got all my

1632
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 1: you know, toothbrush, toothpas, meat cleaver, That's what I forgot, Honey.

1633
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: Would you go grab the meat cleaver so I can

1634
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: put it in my carry on badge? What are you doing

1635
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 1: where you travel with them?

1636
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 2: Meat cleaver found out some chicken? I guess. I guess,

1637
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 2: so you gotta do that. So artificial Christmas trees have

1638
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 2: been one of the hardest hit Holiday Staples. One company

1639
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 2: has had to increase their prices. Well, they say they've

1640
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 2: had to increase their prices by ten percent, and they're

1641
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 2: blaming it on tariffs.

1642
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 1: Of course they are. That's a nice easy thing to

1643
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 1: blame everything on every every every business in the entire

1644
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: country right now. If they're raising prices, they're like, oh,

1645
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: we had to tariffs.

1646
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 2: Sorry, yep. So, so you've got Republican Senator Ron Johnson.

1647
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 1: Not to Mike Johnson, stereo salesman from Fast Times at

1648
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: Ridgemont High.

1649
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 2: Ron Johnson, He's from Wisconsin, and he's known as a

1650
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 2: leading fiscal hawk in the Senate. Right he says, the

1651
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:21,719
Speaker 2: country can't afford President Trump's proposal to send out two

1652
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 2: thousand dollars in tariff dividend checks. So how about they

1653
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 2: just do with less?

1654
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 1: The government do with less? Never, Hey, what next thing?

1655
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 1: You know you're going to ask local government here in

1656
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 1: Indiana to do with less?

1657
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:35,839
Speaker 2: No?

1658
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 1: No, no, that's wh.

1659
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 2: Why is it? Why is it never about us? It's

1660
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 2: never about the government. Can't afford for them to send

1661
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 2: you two thousand dollars tariff check.

1662
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: Government only gets bigger. It is the only path for government.

1663
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,799
Speaker 1: They will always get bigger, and they've got their money,

1664
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 1: and you just got to deal with what you've got.

1665
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 2: They say that if they were actually to do that,

1666
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 2: the annual payout could cost six hundred billion dollars.

1667
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know Trump was talking about doing it

1668
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: every year. I thought that was like a one time

1669
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,759
Speaker 1: like the COVID checks. Remember we all got the COVID

1670
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 1: checks in the mail. I thought that's what we were

1671
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,799
Speaker 1: talking about, like a one time two thousand dollars payment.

1672
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 1: And now we're talking about doing it every year.

1673
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 2: Ron Johnson's his numbers are saying, if you do it annually.

1674
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 2: By the way, the Congressional Budget Office projects two point

1675
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,959
Speaker 2: eight trillion over ten years if you if you do.

1676
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: You were to send out two thousand dollars Trump tariff

1677
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 1: checks to every American homeowner.

1678
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 2: Okay, came across this guy and he's got a tip

1679
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 2: so big Thanksgiving meal coming up. Maybe you've got someone

1680
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 2: at the table who doesn't like what is served Thanksgiving dinner.

1681
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 2: And here's a guy with the gen X hotline.

1682
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 11: Jen X parrot and hotline were consequences still matter? How

1683
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 11: can I help you? Your child hasn't eating his dinner

1684
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 11: in two weeks. Well, what's the little fellow's name? Skyler

1685
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 11: with two Wives? And if Skyler with two wives ever

1686
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 11: got a spanking in his whole life, you don't believe

1687
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 11: in that. I know how to help you. You're gonna

1688
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 11: go to the Walmart. You're gonna buy two pounds of

1689
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 11: ground meat. You're gonna bring that home, and you're gonna

1690
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 11: make a meat loaf. On top of that meat loaf,

1691
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 11: you're gonna put a red mystery sauce as a side.

1692
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 11: It's gonna be a scoop of mixed vegetables.

1693
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 1: Now for dinner.

1694
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 11: That night, Skyler is gonna cry and he's gonna carry on,

1695
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 11: and you are not gonna let him up until it's bedtime.

1696
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 1: He's gonna go to bed hunger.

1697
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 11: You might want to get you some ear must because

1698
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 11: it's gonna be very loud in the morning. Whenever Skyler

1699
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 11: with two Wives wakes up, he's gonna want his pop

1700
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 11: tarts or maybe some cap'n Crunch. And you're gonna put

1701
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 11: that cold meat loaf with the congealed red sauce in

1702
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 11: front of him, and he's also not gonna eat that.

1703
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 11: You are gonna repeat this until Skyler eats his dinner.

1704
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 11: No one in the history of planet Milky Way has

1705
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 11: ever voluntarily starved themselves. He will not die, and you

1706
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 11: need to get rid of one of those wise in

1707
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 11: his name or he's going to get beat up in school.

1708
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1709
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,560
Speaker 2: That's how I grew up, meat love, That's how I

1710
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 2: grew That's how I grew up. I grew up that

1711
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 2: way so much. In fact, I can recall one dinner.

1712
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 2: It was potato salad and I didn't like it, didn't

1713
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 2: want to eat it, and I sat at that kitchen

1714
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 2: table until it was bedtime. And to this day I

1715
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 2: don't like potato salad because of that traumatic experience.

1716
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 1: Now, do you think you're a picky eater? It didn't

1717
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 1: cure you of your pickiness when it comes to food, no, see,

1718
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 1: but it did be like I am not a picky

1719
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 1: eater at all. ILL pretty much eat anything I can't

1720
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 1: think of, like any food that I don't like. And

1721
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 1: I think I attributed to the fact that if I

1722
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,719
Speaker 1: didn't eat what was for dinner that night, I wasn't

1723
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 1: eating anything eating and it was going to be served

1724
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 1: to me for breakfast the next morning, and that was

1725
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 1: what was going to be served to me until I ate,

1726
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 1: and so I just ate it and I just eat anything.

1727
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 2: Now yeah, and now you want some meat loaf for dinner.

1728
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 1: That all that bit did was make me want meat loaf.

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Speaker 2: Oh you absolutely hungry, hungry for the meat loaf.

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Speaker 1: With the red sauce. I don't know what they make

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01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: that red sauce out of. It's obviously ketchup basement. It's

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01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 1: not just normal ketchup. So good.

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01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 2: So do you remember a while ago we had lots

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01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 2: of conversations about TikTok and what was going on with

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01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 2: the TikTok deal.

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Speaker 1: Oh, TikTok being sold? Yeah yeah, yeah, oh.

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01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so how it was going to go away from us?

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01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: It was gone, we were keeping it. No, it's gonna

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01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: go away. No, you get it back.

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01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 2: Well, there is a senator at Markey, he's from Massachusetts.

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01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 2: Yesterday he was asking Donald Trump for details about the

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01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 2: deal to keep TikTok available in the United States. Have

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Speaker 2: you heard anything?

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01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 1: No, I haven't heard any. Last I heard was it

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01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: was going to be sold to a consortium and Larry Ellison,

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01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 1: the billionaire, was going to be one of the investors

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01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 1: in this new company that was going to be buying

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01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: the American version of TikTok so Marky.

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01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 2: He was accusing Donald Trump of violating the law by

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01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 2: laying enforcement in using the ban as leverage for political allies.

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01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 2: He was very critical the lack of transparency for TikTok's

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01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy million users.

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01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: Have they done anything to make life more affordable?

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01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 2: Focus on that.

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01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 1: Have we done anything about We've done anything about the

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01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: out of control patrol, healthcare costs, rising utility rates, taxes,

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01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 1: people being able to afford to live in their homes. No,

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01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: but let's get on this TikTok thing right now. This

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01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: is the most accurate. They've got to get this TikTok

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01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 1: thing figured out before we give you, as a taxpayer,

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01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 1: any relief.

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01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 10: You know.

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01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 2: We started the show and Rob Kendall was joining us

1764
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 2: and we were talking about the redistricting, and he was

1765
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 2: asking the question, what will be the next boogeyman? Maybe

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01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 2: it's this back to TikTok.

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01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 1: It's already been a boogeyman. Once we can bring it back.

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01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,759
Speaker 2: Again, it could be the boogeyman. It is the Hammer

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01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 2: and Nigel Show. It's ninety three wibc Okay, so we've

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01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 2: got a programming note tomorrow during the Hammer and Nigel Show.

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01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,919
Speaker 2: I believe it will be Ethan Hatcher and Jerry Lopez

1772
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 2: filling in. Yes, and on the Kendall and Casey Show.

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01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,560
Speaker 2: I think it's Craig Collins.

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01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: Filling Actually, I think it's best of I was talking right, Yeah,

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01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: Kevin was in here earlier before the show started. I

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01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 1: was talking to Kevin, the Kendall and Casey Show producer,

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01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: and he said that he was busy putting together a

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01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 1: best of show.

1779
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 2: For the show, best of Kendall and and Man Ethan Hatcher,

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01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 2: Jerry low pezant for Hammer and Nigel. Because you and

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01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 2: I are going to hit the road a new Thanksgiving

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01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 2: tradition for us.

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01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: One of the eighty two million people in this country

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01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: that'll be traveling for the holidays, we're or two of them.

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01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 1: You ready for a nice ten hour driving the car.

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01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 2: It's going to be something new. Our daughter's going to

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01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 2: be doing Thanksgiving in.

1788
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 1: Her little apartment Baltimore's. She's going to be the three

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01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: of us.

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01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 2: We're going to help her out. But we've been texting

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01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 2: back and forth. This is one of the texts. Do

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01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 2: you have a mixer?

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01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 4: No?

1794
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:42,799
Speaker 2: We don't have a mixer.

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01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,679
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll bring you mix Do you have a potato peeler? No,

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01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 1: don't have a potato Okay, we'll bring a potato pep You.

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01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 2: Have a can opener, Yes, we have a can opener. Okay.

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01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 2: So it'll it'll be interesting to see how it goes.

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01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: Be a stripped down Thanksgiving, but they're still going to

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01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: be turkey and mashed potatoes and pies. It's going to be.

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01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 2: Great and the three of us will be together, and

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01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 2: that's going to be the most importance as I can

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01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 2: wait hug Her. I'm so excited to see her. Somebody

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01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 2: sent me a message on Twitter. They said that one

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01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 2: of their family traditions is that they alternate every other

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01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 2: year with a traditional Thanksgiving and then they do a

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01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 2: non traditional Thanksgiving meal the next year.

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01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 1: Interesting, I wonder what classifies as a non traditional traditional Turkey,

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01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:28,520
Speaker 1: I mean just different dishes.

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01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 2: Maybe pizza, lasagna, something like that, burgers. We used to

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01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 2: have a tradition that we stole from Bob and Tom

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01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 2: and we did.

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01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: It for years. We did with our with.

1814
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 2: Our extended families.

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01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,640
Speaker 1: We did pie noon, right, pie noon, and it is

1816
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:45,640
Speaker 1: where before you eat your Thanksgiving dinner at noon, you

1817
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: have pie, you have all the desserts first, and so yeah,

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01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 1: we did that, and then my sister and her family

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01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 1: started doing it, my other sister and her family, my

1820
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: parents do it. It kind of spread out beyond our

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01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,799
Speaker 1: immediate family to our extended family, and they all still

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01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 1: do it. We kind of stopped doing it a few

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01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 1: years ago, but my extended family still does pie noon

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01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 1: every single year.

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01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 2: We should bring it back, we should.

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01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:06,640
Speaker 1: We have three pies. There's three of us going to

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01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 1: be attending Thanksgiving dinner. We bought three pies.

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01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,600
Speaker 2: Well, you know we're gonna have to have something for

1829
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 2: breakfast at our daughter's apartment. You know there's no food there.

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01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: Pumpkin pie and coffee for breakfast on Friday, on Black

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01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 1: Friday morning.

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01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we're gonna do.

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01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 1: Okay, it's gonna be so good.

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01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:25,879
Speaker 2: I claim the cherry pie.

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01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: You can have all the cherry pie you want. There's

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01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 1: three pies for three people.

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01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 2: Thank you Jim for coming in. Thank you Alison, excellent

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01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 2: job today, and thank you for listening. Have a wonderful,

1839
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: happy Thanksgiving and I'll catch you back Monday at nine

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Speaker 2: am on ninety three WIBC