1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: So people think the government has too much power, but 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: it really kind of depends on if it's the government 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: they like. Let's make some sense of it. It's kind 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: of a Casey show. I'm Rob Casey's in this afternoon 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: for Hammer and Nigel Ethan Hatcher from Saturday Night on 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: the Circle in for Casey and by the way, coming 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: up here in just a little bit, we're gonna take 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: a huge, huge show risk. We're going to turn the 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: show over to you, the listeners. We're going to get 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: some of your phone calls on how you're feeling about redistricting. 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: I want to know does it matter to you, Is 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: it something that's a priority to you. If it is 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: a priority for you, how do you feel about it 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: one way or another. That that'd be interesting to try 15 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: to get a sort of a gauge because the polling, 16 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 1: the public polling is overwhelmingly against it. But also recognize 17 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: it may not be an exact reflection of our audience. 18 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: So we'll tee that up for you here in just 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: a little bit and take your phone calls. But first 20 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: new poll out, this was Gallup, pretty well known respected 21 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: polling institution, says that the Hill by the Way has 22 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: the full article on this. The sixty two percent, that's 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: a record number of Americans say the federal government has 24 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: too much power, the highest since the tracking began in 25 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: two thousand and one. That is up dramatically, ethan from 26 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: just last year, where fifty one percent said they believe 27 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: the federal government had too much power. Now I'm floored 28 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: that as of last year it just fifty one percent 29 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: of the public but the federal government had too much power. 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: What's interesting about this, though, is how the percentages change 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: based on who's in office. Well, that tells all the 32 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: story there. So among Democrats, for example, last year, it 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: was twenty five percent. This year it's sixty six percent. 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: Among Republicans, last year it was seventy five percent, this 35 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: year fifty eight percent. Fascinating. And this is the problem 36 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: with everything, is that there are so many people in 37 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: this country. Look, there are some people who and a 38 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: lot of people and many people hearing our voice right 39 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: now who blatantly get it. The federal government is evil. 40 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: Government by design is a never ending, essentially game of 41 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: pac Man that just eats everything it comes into contact with. 42 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: The Government itself, by its inception, is awful, and it 43 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: won't matter which one of these parties is in power, 44 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: they're going to take as much from you as they 45 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: can and can get away with. But there are so 46 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: many people ethan in this country who's still, for whatever reason, 47 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: despite getting screwed by both of these parties over and 48 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: over and over again, they still see to some sort 49 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: of white hat black hat thing where it's just who's 50 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: in power, not what they're actually doing. The way that 51 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: I see it, this is a byproduct of treating politics 52 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: as team sport, which is really something that only evolved 53 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: in the twenty first century. Started with the two thousand 54 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: year two thousand election George Bush versus Al Gore, and 55 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: it was the first time that most news stations began 56 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: coloring their electoral map with red and blue. Red for 57 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: Republicans and blue for Democrat. It didn't really exist in 58 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties before, when they would put election maps 59 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: up on the screen, it was kind of a free 60 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: for all what the color scheme was. And this was 61 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: just a way of introducing a visual shorthand in journalism 62 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: to help people understand what was going on in elections 63 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: and putting things in terms that people are able to understand. 64 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: Is ordinarily a very commendable task. However, the byproduct of 65 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: those colors has now put into people's minds that politics 66 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: is a team sport. It's red team versus blue team. 67 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: And just like in sports, you always cheer for your 68 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: team right or wrong, but that's not beneficial in politics. Well, 69 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: you can do that in sports, you can't do that 70 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: in politics. Well, and so it comes back to we 71 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: talk about this all the time on the local level, 72 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: and obviously other than outside the city in Indianapolis, the 73 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: state is almost exclusively run by Republicans, So we spend, 74 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: especially at a state level time talking about Republicans. And 75 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: it comes back to this argument on something like redistricting. 76 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: What do you think this is going to get you? 77 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: Why are you cheering for this? They can't win it 78 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: by governing, so now they're just going to change the 79 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: map so that they can win with bad behavior. And 80 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: because so many people just instinctively say red good, Blue bad, 81 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: when the reality is blue is bad. Nobody's saying blue's good. 82 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: We're also telling you red's bad. And you shouldn't just 83 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: hand a freebie over to red because red screws you 84 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: every time as well. And yeah, exactly, look at the 85 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: way that it's infected our mindset when it's come even 86 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: to local politics. Now it's red states and blue states, 87 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: and yeah, we're a red state, but we want to 88 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: be an even deeper red state. Those terms just didn't 89 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: exist pre twenty first century. That mode of thinking didn't exist. 90 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: So how do you break it? That's the thing that 91 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: I struggle with, is how do you got to take 92 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: politics out of mainstream give it back to the province 93 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: of the nerds. It was much better. See I used 94 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: to cheer when I was a teenager, like, oh yeah, 95 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: of course. It just seemed like common sense. Of course, 96 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: everybody needs to be participating in this great American system 97 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: that we have. More people should be participating in democracy. 98 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: And then politics became overwhelming and it infected every aspect 99 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: of life, cultural conversations. It's on the Twitter sphere, on 100 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: your Facebook. You can't get away from it. And more importantly, 101 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: you got a lot of people who have low investment 102 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: in politics, but their vote counts the same as yours. 103 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: We need to take this out of the mainstream and 104 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 1: give it back to the nerds. Yeah, because I've struggled 105 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: with this the whole time I've been here, which is 106 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: how do you break the stranglehold. And the stranglehold is 107 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: true for both parties. I mean, there's nothing, there's nothing 108 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: about Indianapolis where you would say, wow, that's going so 109 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: well that we want more of that. And yet Democrats 110 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: keep winning the prosecutors race, the mayor's race, they control 111 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: the city council. Extrapolate it out to state, you know, statewide, 112 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: there's nothing the Republicans are doing that you would say, Man, 113 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: this is so good, give us more of that. I 114 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: can't wait to go vote for that. And yet they 115 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: have so trained these people who choose to participate that 116 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: you got to pick one of these sides. I've struggled 117 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: with this for nine years. I am at the point 118 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: now where I'm not sure. I'm not sure you can 119 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: break this system anymore. I think we're just kind of 120 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: stuck with it now. Now, Rob, Indianapolis isn't a total 121 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: abject failure. Didn't you see? DPW announced that they finished 122 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: their dig Indie project that they've been working on for 123 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: the better part of the last decade less something like 124 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: twenty miles of new tunnels spanning across the city. Oh yeah, 125 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: so we did something. Yeah, you did something. We did something. 126 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: All right, so why don't we do this. I would 127 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: like to hear from you about how you're feeling about redistricting. One, 128 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: are you passionate about it? Are you fired up about it? 129 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: Is it something that is going to drive you? And two? 130 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: What do you want the Republicans, many of them admitted 131 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: the maps are already fair, that they were drawn very well. 132 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: Do you want them to change that? What do you 133 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: want to do? Let's open it up. Three one seven 134 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: two three nine ninety three ninety three is the phone number? 135 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: Three one seven two three nine ninety three ninety three. 136 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: We will take a huge career risk and open the 137 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: program up to don't let us down be a huge risk. 138 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: We'll do it next Kennelly Casey Show, ninety three WIBC. 139 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's get your thoughts on redistricting. We've seen 140 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: the polling, We've heard the politicians. I'm curious to hear 141 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: from you. Three one seven two three nine ninety three 142 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: ninety three. I want to know are you fired up 143 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: about are you passionate about it? Something that drives you? 144 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: And how do you feel about it? And let's go 145 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: to one of the great listeners right out of the 146 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: gate of the Kennerley Casey Show, south Side Tom, Tom, 147 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: before we get your thoughts, thank you for the Arby's 148 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: and Burger King coupons. I've been saving a fortune thanks 149 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: to you and your lovely wife. 150 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 2: Hey, that's the main thing. Because you work in radio, 151 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: and a note broadcasting pro like me knows that you 152 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: don't make am any working broadcasting. 153 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: I would have been eating any lunch the past three weeks, 154 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: but Tom Tom sent me a portfolio. I don't know 155 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: if he's stealing him out of his neighbor's mailboxes or what, 156 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: but it was like a like a binder of Arby's coupons. 157 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: Don't tell I don't want the post authorities after me, okay, Rob, 158 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it there. 159 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: Tom, the floor is yours. Redistricting, what are you thinking? 160 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: Okay, real quickly. We took many vacation. We're down Jasper, Indiana, 161 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: among other places this past weekend. Do you ask people 162 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: about the governor down there? They shrug. I guess they're 163 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: not too keen on the favorite sundown there, And the 164 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: one thing they'll say is I gotta do something about 165 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: property texts. So where you're each far and wide with 166 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: WIBC obviously, you're permeating the southern part of the state 167 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: as well, so excellent. They know what they know. As 168 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: for the idea of redistricting and all that, what did 169 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: you mention while back, we're spending almost a half a 170 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: million dollars to do this. 171 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really that's the estimate. 172 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: Can they waste their money on something more useful like 173 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: maybe yes, they don't like talking about in the afternoon 174 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: property taxes? 175 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So Mark, my vote down is I'm 176 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: again it just leave things the way they are and 177 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: let the voters aside and quit using this as your 178 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 3: piggy bank. 179 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: All right, Tom, you're the best. Thank you. All right, 180 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: let's go to Larry. Larry, Welcome to the Kennell and 181 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: Casey Show. How do you feel about redistricting? 182 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 4: Hey, if I'm in a Republican party here in the 183 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,479 Speaker 4: state of Indiana and somebody asked me, how many congressional 184 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 4: seas do you want? 185 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: Do you want? 186 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 5: You know what? 187 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, what as many as I can get. 188 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: That's what they need need to do politics as a 189 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 4: blood sport. They need to take every seat so they 190 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 4: can have consistency in their government, in our government. And 191 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 4: that's what we need. We need as many as we can. 192 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: Get consistency out of Republicans. You got to be kidding, 193 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: that's right. 194 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 4: Hey, Look, I don't want anything to do with Democrats 195 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 4: because we know what they're all about. I've been at 196 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 4: the state House for forty years and they're the h 197 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 4: the party of disaster, and all the legislations that they've 198 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 4: pushed on this state over the years have been nothing 199 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 4: but degrading and just an imposition on our state that 200 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 4: has destroyed us. Other than Mitch Daniels, the Republicans have 201 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: been shooting pretty straight. But we need to get all 202 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 4: the seats. 203 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: All right, Larry, thank you, my friend, appreciate you. Listen, 204 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: Thank you? All right, keV. Who's next? Did you say 205 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: other than Mitch Daniels? Think so? We love Larry. keV. 206 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: Who's next? 207 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 6: Up next? We got Mike from Avon. 208 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: Mike from Avon, Sorry about your school referendum. Mike. We're 209 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: doing what we can to help you out there. What's 210 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: going on? 211 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 7: Oh I can't stand it. To get a sign and 212 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 7: just put a big xcent it in my yard. But 213 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 7: the redistricting, I'm just like the last guy. I'm tired 214 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 7: of the Democrats just bullying us constantly, and I really 215 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 7: don't have a lot more to say about it other 216 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 7: than robes the you were talking about the difference in 217 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 7: Republicans and Democrats. Okay, if you have one group that 218 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 7: has an idea to raise your taxes and another group 219 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 7: that has an idea to raise your taxes, and then 220 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 7: you have the same one of the two groups that 221 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 7: want to cut off boys penises, and then another group 222 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 7: that does not want to cut off boys tenises, which 223 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 7: group would you vote for? 224 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: So your argument is you recognize I'm going to get 225 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,479 Speaker 1: another jeff and Shreeve and he's going to be completely worthless. 226 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: But the other side is so bad. It's not that 227 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: the Republicans are good, it's the other side is so bad. 228 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 7: Well, it's a worldview thing. That's what we're fighting here. 229 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 7: We're fighting in worldview. We're not really fighting individual politics 230 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 7: and individual policy right now. But yeah, go ahead. 231 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: Well, I'm just going to ask you, so a guy 232 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: like a Jefferson Tree, because again we have to accept 233 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: that when we're talking two more Republicans, that's who we're 234 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: talking about getting. That's who the Republicans are going to 235 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: give you. This guy was for taking all of your 236 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: guns if he could get away with it until it 237 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: became politically expedient for him not to do that when 238 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: he ran for Congress, depending on what office he was 239 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: going to run for. So how do you trust these 240 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: people that they are going to continue to share your worldview? 241 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 7: You're exactly right, But I know I have eyes and 242 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 7: I've seen what's been going on for many, many years. 243 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 7: So I trust my get and think, Okay, Shreeve just 244 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 7: be somehow, some way trying to get elected and then 245 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 7: and then he'll change. Now that that sounds really odd 246 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 7: and weird, but hey, we're in an odd and weird 247 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 7: state in our our country and state in our state 248 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 7: right now, so at least he's not well. He did 249 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 7: during the election, he told me he wanted to take 250 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 7: my guns. But most of the most of the Democrats 251 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 7: just tell you flat that there, that they're socialists, that 252 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 7: they they they can't stand our country, they can't stand 253 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 7: uh uh people that are legal, they can't stand my kids, 254 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 7: my wife me. So yeah, you're right, but we don't 255 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 7: live in a perfect well rounded world. So uh, I 256 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 7: still I still have the thought to take the chance 257 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 7: on one individual that has an issue compared to a 258 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 7: whole group that has the mindset of the worldview that 259 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 7: wants to just destroy Western civilization. 260 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: Mike, thank you for your call. Before we go to 261 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: the next call, Ethan, go ahead, Yeah, I gotta. I 262 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: got a question for you real quick, Mike. Why wouldn't 263 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: I Because I agree with you, you know, uh, child 264 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: genital mutilation is a line in the sand. But why 265 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't you fight that at the ballot box? Why are 266 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: Marion County Republicans in particular so incapable of fight finding 267 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: a representative to voice opposition to those ideas that instead 268 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: of fighting it at the ballot box they got to 269 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,359 Speaker 1: go circumvent the process through redistricting. 270 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 7: Well, I just used an example first of all, for 271 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 7: lopping a boy's teen that's off the the the The 272 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 7: thing that I want to happen is I want to 273 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 7: see the Democrats lose. I want to see that worldview lose. 274 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 7: They have been taking it vantage of us for years 275 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 7: and years and years and years. We have an opportunity 276 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 7: now to get back the I'm not going to say 277 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 7: power because which I'm not a power hungry, but I 278 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 7: know politicians are. But let's just say power. We have 279 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 7: a chance to get more power back. If anything I 280 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 7: can do to see Andre Carson have to fight to 281 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 7: give a vote, I would love that. 282 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks Mike, appreciate you. 283 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 4: keV. 284 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: Who's up next? 285 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 6: We have Mike from Greenwood. 286 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: Another Mike, Mike from Greenwood? Hello, how are you feeling 287 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: about redistricting? 288 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 4: Oh? 289 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: I think it's stupid. 290 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 7: I mean, what is people afraid of? 291 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 8: The Republicans are runnings here because they might lose one 292 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 8: district when they've got a super majority in the Senate 293 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 8: in the House anyway, what was to deal with it? 294 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: Do you worry that if you just hand Republicans another 295 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: seat that the governance is going to get worse because 296 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: they feel like no matter what they do, they'll just 297 00:15:58,960 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: be able to keep the. 298 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 8: I it makes no difference to me what they do 299 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 8: with it, because I mean I'm a Democrat and a 300 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 8: you know, a state fuller Republican. So nothing I ever 301 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 8: want to have happen is going to happen there anyway. 302 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: Very good. Mike from Greedwoo, Thank you, man, I appreciate you. 303 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: Cavoo's up next. 304 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 6: We have Douglas from Warsaw. 305 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: Doug from Warsaw, how's it going, my man, you're on 306 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: the Kennel and Casey Show. How you feel about redistricting? 307 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 9: Toms are I thought you said, Warsaw, it's. 308 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: Boresville, Mooresville very good, even better, the home the Home 309 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: of John Dillinger, Yes, very good? And Bluebird Hafeteia. All right, 310 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: what's going on, my man? 311 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 9: Yell me center right? Independence do It's safe to say, 312 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 9: for the last eighteen years, I've voted almost straight with publicing, 313 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 9: just kind of common sense and decency. But when it 314 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 9: comes to the reds, I'm kind of on the fence 315 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 9: with it. I mean, I agree with what a lot 316 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 9: of our leaders are saying that we've got pretty good 317 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 9: lines drawn now, and I just don't really see how 318 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 9: it's going to benefit us as a state, because that's 319 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 9: what we're talking about here, basically. I mean, I understand 320 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 9: the protocol of want to follow your yeah, your president, 321 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 9: but I just in the end of the day, I 322 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 9: just don't. I think it's a waste of time and money. 323 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: All right, Very good, Mike, Thank you man, I appreciate you. 324 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the program. keV. 325 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 6: Who's next, we have Randy from Bloomington. 326 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: Randy from Bloomington, Before we get to that, I want 327 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: to thank keV. He's doing like nine things over there 328 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: at once because we're on a radio station budget, so 329 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: he's doing an MVP job over there, answering the phones, 330 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: telling us who's next. All right, Randy from Bloomington, you're 331 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: on the program. Hello, how do you feel about redistricting? 332 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 10: Well, it's not too complicated. Way I'm looking at it 333 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 10: is that if the Democrats gain control of the House, 334 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 10: they are going to spend two years twenty twenty six 335 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 10: on to impeach Donald Trump. They did it before Donald 336 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 10: Trump's first term. They will not do anything for the 337 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 10: constituents of their district or their state. They will spend 338 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 10: literally two years to impeach Donald Trump and stop every 339 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 10: bill and program he wants to put forth. And it's 340 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 10: that simple with me in my thinking of redist redistrict 341 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 10: in to get more congressional seats for the Republicans. 342 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: All right, very well, Randy, thank you man. I appreciate you. keV. 343 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: Who's up next? 344 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 6: We have Kevin from Brownsburg. 345 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: Kevin from Brownsburg, you poor man, Welcome to the program. 346 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: Hey, mister Roberts. 347 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 4: Kevin Kevin, what's going on? Man? 348 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: I'm just out here doing the normal stuff every day. 349 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: Now for those who don't know Kevin, we've had Kevin 350 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: on our show before. Kevin is closing in on having 351 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: visited every city in town in the state of Indiana. 352 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: How many counties are you down to now, Kevin? Excellent? 353 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: All right, When you get done, we'll have you back 354 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: on how you feel about restricting? Brother, I don't like it. 355 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: But if there's no stricter law governing it, and one 356 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 2: side is doing it, you have to let the other 357 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: side do the same thing. But I don't know what 358 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: kind of laws you could have to make it fair. 359 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 2: It's kind of a scratch your head thing. How do 360 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: you do that? But I don't like it? 361 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: All right, very good, my man? Thanks Kevin. We love you, 362 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: appreciate you. All right, we got time for Let's do 363 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: two more calls before got to get your brea, keV. 364 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: Who's up next? 365 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 11: Oh? 366 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: Was that it is? 367 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 7: That? 368 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: Senate? Are we done? We ran out everybody there's restricted. 369 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: They got bored with the redistrict. I want to put 370 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: a right now, right now, hang on before we do that, though. 371 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: Right now I've got it in a four to three 372 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: tally four against three four right and So I think 373 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: that's very interesting that the WIBC audience, which would tend 374 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: to be a more right audience, and whether it's it 375 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: was four four or three against, you're just not seeing 376 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: an overwhelming flood of support even among what I think 377 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: you would describe as a right audience for the active redistrict. Yeah, 378 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of great unanimity. And I think 379 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: we did a pretty good job of getting the spectrum 380 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: of views put out there. All right, keV we good, 381 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: we got two more calls. 382 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 6: We got Mike from Karmel up Nest. 383 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: All right with third mic of the day, Mike Mike 384 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: and Mike Mike. What's going on? 385 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 2: Man Ay, good morning. 386 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 5: So I guess I'm looking in this little different way. 387 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 5: I think this is nothing but negotiation for Trump. I 388 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 5: think he knows that what the Democrats have been doing 389 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 5: in the last decade or more is a joke and 390 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 5: the only way you're going to get that ground back 391 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 5: is do the same thing, played by their rules, and 392 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 5: then maybe at the end of the day can say. 393 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 4: Okay, this is really stupid. 394 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 5: We need to have a consistent way across the country 395 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 5: that we do this and everybody plays by the same rules. 396 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 5: So I think it's just an opportunity for the Republicans 397 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 5: to try to neutralize what the Democrats have done. So 398 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 5: I guess that puts you right. 399 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: Down in the middle. 400 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 5: I'm straddling the fantastic. 401 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 7: I like that. 402 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: Keep the tie going perfect, very good? All right, last call, 403 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: last call. You guys have been awesome, keV. Who do 404 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: we have? 405 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, we have Chuck from Seymour. 406 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: Chuck from Seymour. 407 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 4: What's going on, man, Rob, You're gonna suck because I'm 408 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 4: mon bad out here. 409 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 7: Chuck. 410 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm having trouble hearing you. 411 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: Man. 412 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: You got a lot going on in the background. 413 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: There, brother, Sorry about that, Brother, I do want to 414 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: talk to you. 415 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, all back when you got let's going on 416 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: in the background, keV. We'll let somebody else break the tie. 417 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 6: I don't know who this is. 418 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: Well we'll wing it. Who are you? And go ahead. 419 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: You're on the air and there's nobody there. It ends 420 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: in a tie. There you go. How about that? It's 421 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: Kennel and Casey Show ninety three WIBC. Okay, So that 422 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: was a very interesting exercise, and I got exactly what 423 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to get out of it. It's Kennel and 424 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: Casey show and rob Ethan's in for Casey. Casey and 425 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: Jim will be in for Hammer Nigel this afternoon. So 426 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: we took calls last segment, a lot of calls. We 427 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: love you guys. We don't do that a whole lot, 428 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: but you guys always come through. And we appreciate everybody 429 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: who waited on hold and called in. And I know 430 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: we ended up leaving some people on hold, and sorry 431 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: about that, but about redistricting, and I said, look, I 432 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: want to know you fired up about it, and you know, 433 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: how do you feel about it? And so there was 434 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: two things that think we touched on this very briefly. 435 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: Number one that stood out and the Democrats. Look, if 436 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: you are a Democrat, you need to listen to this. 437 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: I implore you to listen to what we're about to 438 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: talk about here. The first thing is that's obvious is 439 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: that our audience, which is Look, if any audience is 440 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: going to be right or going to be a Republican, 441 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 1: it's going to be our audience in Central Indiana. But Ethan, 442 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: even our audience, you recognize from what they're saying, even 443 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: the people are for redistricting. There's no love for the Republicans. 444 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: People that are for it are not for it because 445 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: they say, give me more Republican. The people who are 446 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: for it are saying, I know what the Republicans are. 447 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: I agree with you, Rob on what you're saying or 448 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: say every day about these Republicans. I just know what 449 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: the Democrats are. And it's even worse. So this is 450 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: connecting to the conversation that we began the show with 451 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: being that the Indiana voter is looking at the Democrat 452 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: Party and asking, why can't you just be normal? And 453 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: if they were, they might win a couple elections here, 454 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: it might be more competitive instead of the strict Republican 455 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: supermajority that we have. But they've been so invested primarily 456 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: on social issues that are utterly alienated from the average whosier. Yeah, 457 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: and so when you extrapolate that out to elections, this is, 458 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: obvi see an issue. It's not an election. But I 459 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: think people sort of feel the same way. They're giving 460 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: the Democrats the blueprint for how to win elections, which 461 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: is just run on things people care about. The problem 462 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: is what got all the publicity in the protest at 463 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: the JD Vance thing the other day, two women sitting 464 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: on a couch saying the couch is from Antifa, Like 465 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: that's the publicity, Yes, that was the WIBC. Whole bunch 466 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: of people film that like that. That's what people see, 467 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: and they go, I'm not for this redistricting thing. I 468 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: know what the Republicans are doing, but look at what 469 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: the opposition is, look at what I have to consider 470 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: on the other side. And so if you're a bo buy, 471 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: you have a great chance to be the Secretary of State. 472 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: But not if you're going to be surrounded by a 473 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: bunch of crazy people, by a bunch of people who 474 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: are viewed as unserious or in some cases some of 475 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: our idents views them as dangerous individuals. They're not going 476 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: to vote for you. And until the Democrats and you 477 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: heard it from our audience, until the Democrats and figure 478 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: out a way to at the very least take these 479 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: insane voices in their party and put them in a 480 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: corner and say enough of you, you don't represent us. 481 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: And until the leadership will do that, you're going to 482 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: see people keep giving into the Republicans knowing what they are, 483 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: because they just can't fathom what it's going to look 484 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: like if the other side is in charge. The Democrats 485 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: have really boxed themselves in by wetting themselves to a 486 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: group of outright lunatics. And I guess we can say 487 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: at least the protesters who showed up to JD Vance 488 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: weren't all naked, like the anti Ice protest in Portland 489 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: where they had to die in of a bunch of 490 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: naked hoodlums lying in the street. It's nuts. Yeah, So 491 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: I just thought that was a very interesting exercise because 492 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: what it is show is it was tied. 493 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 5: Right. 494 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: So the best the Republicans could do on I mean, look, 495 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: we have a lot of Democrats and independence listen to 496 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: our show, especially because we're very different from everybody else. 497 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: But on the kind of Republican radio station, the best 498 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: they can do, or the audience that leans certainly more Republican, 499 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: the best they can do is fifty to fifty. That 500 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: shows you there's no passion for this. Certainly, if that's 501 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: all you can get here, it's not going to be 502 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: as strong anywhere else. And so there is no passion 503 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: for this. People aren't fired up about it. But until 504 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: the Democrats give the Republicans something to be afraid of, 505 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: which is well, if we do things people don't like, 506 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: then we might lose elections. They're going to keep doing 507 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: what they want to do. And this is true, and 508 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: it worked out perfectly, and I was so happy that 509 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: it worked out exactly how I thought it was going 510 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: to happen. They do this on taxes, they do this 511 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: on the crony capitalism, they do this, look at CIDC. 512 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: They do this on growth of government, you know, legalized 513 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: vote buying. The Republicans doesn't all this stuff because they 514 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: say we can do about it. People an't go to 515 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: vote for the Democrats. So do whatever you want to do. 516 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: I think the reason or the fact that you couldn't 517 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: do better than fifty percent, even on a heavily Republican 518 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: leaning station like WIBC, is part of the reason. And 519 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: why what do you call them? The Flanders boys Roden 520 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: to Todd over at the State House. That's why they're 521 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: not particularly enthusiastic about doing Trump and vance bidding here. 522 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: So the question is can because we're going to have 523 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: the guy from Independent Indiana on tomorrow because they did 524 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: this poll and apparently they got a bunch more stuff 525 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: coming out tomorrow in this poll, and by the way, 526 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: they used a traditionally Republican pollster to do the poll 527 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: which showed people are against this. Is there a lane 528 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: for somebody else? Because if the Democrats aren't going to 529 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: get it together and people are saying I don't want 530 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: the Republicans, is there actually a lane for somebody running 531 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: as an independent or people starting to run as independence 532 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: on a more conservative type of platform. Does that potentially 533 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: exist out there if neither side is giving the people 534 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: what they want. I don't know. I don't know what 535 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: they've I've been waiting for libertarians to have their mind. 536 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry they had their chance. We're done with the Libertarians. 537 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: We got to find some somewhere else to make this work. 538 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 6: I don't know. 539 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: That seems like a very heavy lift. Although I think 540 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: if it's not a Democrat and it's not a Libertarian, 541 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: who's it going to be. Who has the organization on 542 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: the ground level to make that happen? Well, I think 543 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: I could do it. Ten million dollars. Okay, I think 544 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: ten million dollars if we can find somewhere's our finance daddy. 545 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: We need a finance daddy. I've alienated all the rich friends, Ethan, 546 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: I've alienated all the rich friends. All right, let's take 547 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: a break. When we come back. A politician got very 548 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: mad at me, blocked me, then proceeded to bad mouth me. 549 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: Let's make some sense of it when we come back. 550 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: People love this, people love when we do this. We'll 551 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: talk about it next. We'll name some names. It's Kennlly 552 00:28:37,840 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: Casey Show ninety three WBC. See let's wrap up our 553 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: program today. 554 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 11: Trying to make some sense of human and could be 555 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 11: a bulls there and give it a shot, you know, 556 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 11: a case showing Rob Casey's out to day, Even Hatcher, 557 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 11: host of Saturday Night on the Circle in in Casey's place, 558 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 11: even I've thought a lot about this recently. 559 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: You may have heard I was banned from the Hendricks 560 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: County Lincoln Day dinner. I recall hearing a thing or 561 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: two about that. That was pretty funny. 562 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 4: And then. 563 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: And and you know, look look like it doesn't It 564 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: doesn't bother me. It's a you know, don't get mad 565 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: get even type approach with this stuff. And that's fine. 566 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: But now I've been blocked by a uh, well, I 567 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: guess a known Republican candidate for public office. And I 568 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: just we got to dig into what's going on here, 569 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: because you you are aware of this person in question, 570 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: and I thought, well, this would be a running for 571 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: secretary of state as a matter of fact, right, So 572 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: Jamie written hour. You may remember her, she ran for governor. 573 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: I remember her well. She was doing horribly in all 574 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: the polls, so bad in fact, that the TV refused 575 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: to let her debate. I felt sorry for her. We 576 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: let her come on, and because you know, no one 577 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: is more pro woman than our program, and I felt 578 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: bad that they were leaving her off the stage. And 579 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: I said, Okay, because you're doing so poorly and that's 580 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: kind of embarrassing, you still should be allowed to debate. 581 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: I'll let's come into an hour debate with me on 582 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: the air. We gave her time. Nobody else would give 583 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: her time like that, and we did, and as a result, 584 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: she got quite a few votes, actually ended up beating 585 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: Curtis Hill. She got fourth out of the five people 586 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: running on the Republican. Yes, that hour is a pretty 587 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: sizable chunk out of any radio show, So that is 588 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: a very generous give, right, And look, she's very boring, 589 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: but we felt compelled to give her the time because 590 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: we think people should be allowed to speak. And you're right. 591 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: She had given some big speech about how God had 592 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: told her to not only run for governor, that she 593 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: was going to be the governor. And I don't pretend 594 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: to know who the Lord speaks to or what he says, 595 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: but clearly the intention was not this most recent time, 596 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,239 Speaker 1: and you would think if that were what you were 597 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: being told, you would maybe run for that again. However, 598 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: she suddenly, very quickly pivoted to now I'm going to 599 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: run for secretary of State, right, And I said, okay, 600 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,719 Speaker 1: well that's odd, but maybe you're getting a different message, 601 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: don't know, not going to pretend to know who speaks 602 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: to who or what. You're kind of really starting to 603 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: look like I just want to be a politician. 604 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 5: But we'll go with it. 605 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: And I said, if you're going to run for secretary 606 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: of State, you have got to bring the smoke on 607 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: Diego Morales, because you have to make this primary, this 608 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: convention vote about Diego Morales, the incumbent secretary of State, 609 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: and all the egregious things that he has done. And 610 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: if you don't, you will lose badly because clearly the 611 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: Republican Party doesn't really like you based on your most 612 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: recent run for public office. Does any of that that 613 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: I've just laid out, does any of that seem like 614 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: it's over the top or mean spirited or even inaccurate. No, 615 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: not all tracks, Because especially in the Secretary of State's race, 616 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: where you're going to be running at convention specifically, and 617 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: you're going to be running after another member of your 618 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: own party, another Republican, you're specifically going to have to 619 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: make this a referendum election on all the various misdeeds 620 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: and allegations surrounding Dieg Morales time in office. It's that simple. 621 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: And I think some of these people just want to 622 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: be seen. I don't even think it's about winning. I 623 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: think it's about well, if I just say I'm running 624 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: for this, then suddenly I get some level of relevance. 625 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: And I know you've probably noticed this. When they post, 626 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: like when this woman will post online, it's like Dickens novels. 627 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: It's just paragraphs of stuff. It's a lot of words, 628 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: but very little to say, well, that's right. And so 629 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: I kept responding to her publicly because you know me, Ethan, 630 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: if I say it, if I almost say it, I'm 631 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: just going to say it. Right you're in Twitter. The 632 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: equivalent is saying it, you know, publicly, and I'd say 633 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: if she walked in here, this is ridiculous. Either start 634 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: pointing out what Diego is and all the crap he's pulled, 635 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: or get out of the race, because all you're going 636 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: to you're an unseerious person at this point, and all 637 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna do is take votes away from the other 638 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: guy running who's actually being serious, who we had on 639 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: our program earlier. And by the way, I ripped David 640 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: Shelton too for not being not being mean enough to 641 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: Diego Morales, is totally consistent. And that's so I told her. 642 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: I've just repeatedly said, lady, either start bringing some smoke 643 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: or get out, because you are boring and you're ridiculous 644 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: and you're just taking up time and oxygen. Absolutely, I mean, 645 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: you need to do something to grab attention and to 646 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: kind of form the foundation for why you're running for office. 647 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: And that's the thing with Jamie Rittenaer Like, I don't 648 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: get why she's running at this point. What does she 649 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: plan to do in secretary of State, especially if she's 650 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: not running this as a referendum against Diego Morales and 651 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: setting things straight in the state House well and so 652 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: you'll love this for that I've apparently been blocked on Facebook. 653 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: She needs the squeeze from you, Rob, She needs the 654 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: attention because somebody, multiple people sent this over to me 655 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: that she apparently made some post about me and our 656 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: old pal Stephen over at any reporter, but I like 657 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: it was where you'd be tagged in it, but there's 658 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: no tag and I can't find her page and me, oh, 659 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: I've been blocked, and so what does this say about 660 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: these people that are representing us where you desperately want 661 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: and it's you know, what a bad guy am or whatever? 662 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: And then she she posts these messages I sent her, 663 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: which her big reveal in this post was messages that 664 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: I sent to her saying, hey, Braun and Rokeita are 665 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: worthless in terms of dealing with Diego and they're not 666 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: gonna do it the same things I say in this 667 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: radio program every day. And she was sending these, posting 668 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: these messages like look at what I've got the private 669 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: messages from Rob. Yes, lady, the governor and the Attorney 670 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: General are fully aware of what Diego is, but they 671 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: will not touch because the media that the money that 672 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: touches them also touches him, and they're not going to 673 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: do anything. I'll say it here. I'll say it's like 674 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: a doctor Seus's novel, Right, But what is going on 675 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: with these politicians or want to be politicians in this 676 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: case where they are so fragile they'll make a big 677 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: post about how horrible I am, but they're going to 678 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: block me to try to ensure that I can't see 679 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: it or responds. See, that's the thing that I thought 680 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: was the most cowardly aspect about that particular post, because 681 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: if she's going to be sharing screenshots of your private messages, 682 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: and look, I know you don't care because you say 683 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: the same thing in private that you say in public. No, 684 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: it's consistent all the time. But if you're going to 685 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: be sharing messages and screenshots of somebody, you should at 686 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: least give them the opportunity to respond instead of trying 687 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: to bypass that debate so you can shout in your 688 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,959 Speaker 1: echo chambers, as small as it may be, with people 689 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: who agree with you. And what other logical reason is 690 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: it that is there that everybody is afraid the facts 691 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: are not in dispute with Diego Morales No, And yet 692 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: no one of these people in the Republican orbit will 693 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: take him on, even the people that are running against him, 694 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: even the people who have everything to gain by pointing 695 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: out how ridiculous this guy is and how unfit for 696 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: office he is, and yet nobody will say anything. But yeah, 697 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: when Bo Biden decides he's gonna run, well we have 698 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 1: aneurysms over where he voted last and where he lives. 699 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: And that's ironic coming from Dean Gralis history. Uh yeah, 700 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: So anyway, I just I find it fascinating the obsession 701 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: over me and our show, and like these people are 702 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,959 Speaker 1: more angry at me. All I was telling is, lady, 703 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: you're a bad candidate. You're not getting any traction. You're 704 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: not going to win unless you do this, And for 705 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: that I got blocked, so I tried. I think this 706 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: is a fascinating peak into the current mentality of Indianapolis 707 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: or Indiana politics more broadly, and why our state has 708 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: ended up in this situation is because there is this 709 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: fundamental unwillingness to put your own party under the magnifying 710 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: glass and then hold these people accountable. And the thing 711 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: that they run to every single time is like, oh 712 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: well a Democrat would be worse. Oh I could never 713 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 1: vote for a Democrat. But then you'll vote for these 714 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: rotten Republicans who are giving no bid contracts to their 715 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: business buddies or nepotism, give jobs to their brother in law, 716 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: voting in counties where they don't live, you know, all 717 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 1: the things, and they'll vote for that, but they don't 718 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: want to vote for a Democrat or ever hold these 719 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: people accountable. And that's why the state has ended up 720 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: so rotten and with a lot of rotten leadership at 721 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: a lot of levels. Well, on that uplifting note, it's 722 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: time to call it a program today. Thank you for 723 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: your participation. Ethan. Hey, people want to find you. How 724 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: can they do that? You can find me on the 725 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: Twitter machine at Ethan Hatcher. My name e t H 726 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: n h A t c h E R. And you 727 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: can find me seven to nine every Saturday night on 728 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: Saturday night on this Circle and my personal podcasting page 729 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: Saturday night on the Circle, dot Fireside dot FM. All right, 730 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: let's go do it for us today. Great job, Kevin, 731 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: Thank you as always, and most portly thank you to 732 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: you the listener. Without you, there is no US stick around. 733 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: Tony Katz coming up next, Get on the Casey Show 734 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: ninety three, WIBC