1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: Have you ever. 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: Met someone off the internet and then met them in 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: a in a dating capacity for real, like you originated 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: your entanglement or engagement. Sure, depending on how it went 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: with that person. 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: We got three kids? Well, very good. 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is I'm gonna show my age right here. 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 3: It's back in the day of Yahoo chat oh, right, 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: like Indy Napolis chat room. I was Private Lopez at 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: Fort Lewis, Washington. I was probably at your stage. Yeah, 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: I was twenty years old in the army, Private Lopez. 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: That is actually a good one. I'm gonna do it, 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: ibsu not Private Lopez, and yeah, I hit her with 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: the best pickup line of all time asl question mark 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: is basically age, sex location. 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Are you a girl? How old are you? 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: And do you live close to me? Okay, so you 18 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: met this person on the internet and then. 19 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: We dated, we got married later on had kids, and 20 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: then Jane's mom became your wife, yes, Jamee's mom. Yeah. 21 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 2: Okay, So, how what was the process you went by 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: to verify that was a real human? 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: There was no process back then. You weren't worried about 24 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: a chatbot. Back then, you were just worried about getting catfished. Yeah, 25 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: so I mean, did you how long did you engage 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 3: in conversation. 27 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: With this person? 28 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: Sure? 29 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: Okay, keV in the modern era. Now, well you're you're 30 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: currently with someone, but you have been single in the 31 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 2: modern era, have you been on the dating application? 32 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: Now? 33 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: Refuse? 34 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: Okay, very good, I refuse to do that, keV. In 35 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: the modern dating era? What is the process to confirm 36 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: someone is a real one to two things? One that 37 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: they're a real human being period, and then that they 38 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: are who they say they are. 39 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 4: Well, I think people usually have to take a selfie 40 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 4: for verification, so they get verified on the apps once 41 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 4: they take their selfie. But I don't know if that's 42 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: I don't think that's actually required. So there's a lot 43 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 4: of like bots on. 44 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: Have you ever been concerned when you're talking to someone 45 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: or you're meeting someone that's not a real human that is? 46 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I can usually tell pretty quickly, like usually 47 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 4: the pictures are off, like you can tell it's like 48 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: a screenshot they found at Yeah, we don't like include 49 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: something about their snapchat and the bio. Oh okay, so 50 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 4: there's obvious signs. 51 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: Have you ever talked to a person and then said 52 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: that or a someone and then figured out this appears 53 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: not to be a real. 54 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've started, I've started conversations, but then I yeah, 55 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 4: it didn't go on very long. 56 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: So it's pretty you should do you believe a normal 57 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: person should be able to figure out they're not conversing 58 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: with the real person. Or is it that good that 59 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: it would be able to you'd be able to snooker someone. 60 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: I think you'd have to be pretty naive to fall for. 61 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: That, or old, perhaps lonely, lonely you don't want to 62 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: know that. 63 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: There you go. That may be the big one. 64 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: Okay, So Reuters has an article about a seventy six 65 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: year old man who where was he from? He was 66 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: from New Uh? 67 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: Was he Yeah? 68 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: He was from New Jersey and he died while traveling 69 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: to New York City to meet someone who, it turns out, 70 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: was not a real person at all, but was a 71 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: what they call a chat bot. 72 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: We hey, keV, So we're talking about this. 73 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 3: Yesterday I said I want to create a fake person, 74 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: a fake girl, and I wanted to just be completely 75 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: ai and see if I can make money off clicks. Well, 76 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: apparently this is and that's what that is. It, that's 77 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: what that is. The person ever existed. It was just 78 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: a hot chick. Somebody used AI to create a person. 79 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. So this guy he was again, he was an 80 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: older person. 81 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: I think he had had some health issues, maybe some 82 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: mental issues. 83 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: He just packed up his. 84 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: Stuff left and then they found him dead. Now it 85 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: wasn't believe he was murdered, but rather he like fell 86 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: going to try to meet this person, somehow hit his 87 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: head and tragically passed away. But the point is this 88 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: guy again older, probably not great with technology, but this 89 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: online chat Okay, my question with the online chat bot 90 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: is there's not a person behind it, Like there's. 91 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: Not probably not. There's buy some script right in the 92 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: back AI. 93 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, just get like a Aichat conversation. 94 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I would believe that. 95 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: So literally, now you can have a conversation with the 96 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: computer that's good enough that you don't even I mean, 97 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 2: if you're not hip to the game. 98 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: You can even do a voices these days where now 99 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: like have you ever got the robo call? And it 100 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: sounds a lot better than you say, yeah, yah. 101 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I assume if they're trying to sell me 102 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: something or they're talking about a non existent thing that 103 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: I need to call about. 104 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: Your car warrantine. Yeah, yeah, you're right. 105 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: The uh it's always like, I'm sure people get these 106 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: messages now. Thankfully most phone mechanisms will identify. 107 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: Spam, but they're smarter now now they use your local 108 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: area code to try to get around them. 109 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they do, and it'll always be like, hey, this 110 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: is Claude from the business Services unit. Should probably go 111 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: work for Diego Morales because the services division check on 112 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: the businesses with the what's his face And I'm calling 113 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: about your warranty that expired and I'm concerned about your 114 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: business call me like they act as though like that. 115 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: They'll present I'm sure everbody's gotting these messages, they'll present 116 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: it as a legitimate thing or unless you're kind of 117 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: paying it to you'd be like, oh my gosh, even 118 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: though the thing may not even exist. But I guess 119 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: there's enough people that they think it would exist. But 120 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: you're telling me those are also I never paid it, Yeah, 121 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: probably robo calls. 122 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: They're not even humans. Like the last the last good. 123 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 3: Human scammer was the Indian guy that called you about 124 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: your taxes. Yeah, right, Like outside of that, they're all 125 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 3: robots now and they're only going to get better they're 126 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: only going to get better. 127 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: Wow. 128 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: So that's something like you know our parents who are 129 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: getting older. Sure you know in the next five to 130 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: ten years, are they going to get scammed by random calls? 131 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: Are they gonna? 132 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: Do you even answer the phone if you don't know 133 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: who it is? I? 134 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: Do you do? 135 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 136 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: But I'll hang up in the first couple of seconds. 137 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: So you get a random number to call you and 138 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: you'll answer the phone. 139 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? Why who would be calling you? I don't know. 140 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: You seem we're gonna give you money? Maybe keV. Do 141 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: you ever answer the phone if you don't know the number? Yeah? 142 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: I do it sometimes. I'm curious. Is it for adventure? 143 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: But you know it's the good chances of call Let baby? 144 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: I don't know who the another line are? 145 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: Are you that desperate for attention that you need a 146 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: robot or a scammer? 147 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: Gotta put me down rup. But I'm just asking. At 148 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: least I wasn't here a medial math just got personal. 149 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean, why would you not because I don't know. 150 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: I don't know who's calling, so I'll just pick it 151 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: up and if it's any kind of sales, I just 152 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 3: hang up. I'm not interested in anything. Or I'll say, 153 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: you know, take me off your list or whatever. But 154 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 3: didn't they have the no call list? 155 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: Is that still a thing? 156 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 3: Well? 157 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: I thought Roketopos to be on there. He's too busy 158 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: going after Notre Dame and Butler. He doesn't have time 159 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: to apparently force the no calling. I thought that was 160 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: the thing because it happens all the time. But okay, so. 161 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: This is where I'm at. 162 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: My phone completely crashed that you don't know, this crash 163 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 3: completely last week. This is a brand new cell phone. 164 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 3: I had no numbers, no contract. 165 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: Oh no. Yeah. 166 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: So when I hosted Monday Night with Alison, I'm like, hey, 167 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: I need you to send me Rob's number, Casey's. 168 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: No, I didn't have anybody. 169 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: Every person that texted me, I said, I don't want 170 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: to be rude, but like, who is this? 171 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? Lost them all? 172 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, did you ever get that when you were 173 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: like dating someone that or you were like you had 174 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: engaged in some sort of social thing with them, and 175 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: then you tried to hit them up and then they 176 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: didn't know, and then you had dawn on you that 177 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: they had not put put your number in their phone, 178 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: so you weren't even important. 179 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: Enough for them that's never happened to me. 180 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, see this is and people know this. I tell people, 181 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: do not take this personally. I am uber lazy and 182 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: I do not people put numbers in my phone, and 183 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: I'm my brain is sharp enough that I can remember 184 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: numbers based on what they call it the prefix. What 185 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: are the first three the first three numbers, like I 186 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: noticed people with the first three numbers. But then I'll 187 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: do it in bulk, like I'll be like, okay, I'm 188 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: so far behind this per should be in there, and 189 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: then I'll just do like twenty numbers at the same time. 190 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: So I'm guilty of putting you in my phone as 191 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: your nickname. Yeah, you told me that, and then I 192 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: forget who the heck you are. 193 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you told me that, Like Dan Marino is in 194 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: my was in my fat You told me that. No 195 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: clue who that is. I can't believe you both. You 196 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: both do this. 197 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: You answer the phone when you know there's no logical reason, 198 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: like if somebody in. 199 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: The phone rang, that's the logical or I don't randomly 200 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: pick up my phone and say hello. 201 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: But if you know it's a ninety percent chance of 202 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: something that you're not gonna want to even deal with 203 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: Why would you subject yourself to that? 204 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: Well, if first of all this says scam, I don't 205 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: pick up this possible scam ever. 206 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: I know, but who would be calling you? And if 207 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: it's some important they. 208 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 3: Would clearly need the country needs me to go back 209 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: overseas to fight some special war. 210 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: Rob, I don't know. 211 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: Why is this such a big deal to you who 212 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: I talked to. That's fascinating. It's fascinating to me that 213 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: both of you, yeah, are willing to You're an old man. 214 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: The need for adventure is so strong with the both 215 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 2: of you. 216 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: Is that what it is? We like to live dangerous? 217 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: You're willing to subject yourself to something that you know 218 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: ninety percent is likely as no benefit to you whatsoever. 219 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: But there's a ten percent chance it could be life changing. Wow, 220 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: that's ridiculous.