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Speaker 1: Line from ball Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Kats. Today.

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Speaker 2: The aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln is making its way to

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Speaker 2: the Middle East right now from out of the South

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Speaker 2: China Sea. I would hard I would be hard pressed

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Speaker 2: to think that there's anyone who would believe that just

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Speaker 2: because the Iranian regime has said, you know what, we're

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Speaker 2: not going to kill the protesters, that they're not going

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Speaker 2: to kill the protesters. You'd have to be insane to

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Speaker 2: believe that. Well, President Trump said it. President Trump said

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Speaker 2: a they agreed not to kill the protesters. And that's

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Speaker 2: that's really important because for President Trump said, well, it

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Speaker 2: must be true.

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Speaker 3: Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa?

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Speaker 2: Have we learned nothing? This isn't attack on Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: in the slightest. This is the recognition that there's a

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Speaker 2: big difference between what the president says and what the

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Speaker 3: This was from the White House just yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Did we have some other little things to talk about?

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll start that first. Should I start that first?

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Speaker 5: I think they're gonna want me to.

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Speaker 2: I have a feeling that they want me to.

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Speaker 4: Have been notified and pretty strongly, but we'll find out

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Speaker 4: what that aill means.

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Speaker 6: But we've been told that the killing in ant.

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Speaker 5: Is stopping and stopped and stopping, and there's no plan

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Speaker 5: for executions or an execution or executions.

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Speaker 4: So I've been told that a good authority, we'll find

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Speaker 4: out about it. I'm sure if happens, will all be

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Speaker 4: very upset, including you, will be are upset. But that's

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Speaker 4: just gotten to me. Some information at the killing is stuff.

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Speaker 5: That the executions have stopped to not going to have

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Speaker 5: an execution, which we're talking about for the last couple

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Speaker 2: Today was going to be. It was Caitlyn Collins who

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Speaker 2: then asked the question, well, do you believe them? What

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Speaker 2: do you mean? Do I believe them? Why would anybody

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Speaker 2: anywhere believe them? Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to

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Speaker 2: be with you. I forgot to say hello. Sometimes I forget.

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Speaker 2: The President will very often in his theories and philosophy

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Speaker 2: is about leverage in his want to talk, will say

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Speaker 2: things and then will utilize the following expression good right,

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Speaker 2: they're doing good things.

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Speaker 3: You know what. I've got a great relationship with them,

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Speaker 3: you know what.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate that he said that of the Vice

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Speaker 2: Presidents of of Venezuela.

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Speaker 3: She sold us the oil here.

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Speaker 2: Here was you know, she she got us the oil

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Speaker 2: of fifty a million barrels of oil. You know, she's

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Speaker 2: just she's just terrific. Yeah, it all works out.

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Speaker 4: I think something will work at Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Cavello the de facto number two in Venezuela right now,

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Speaker 7: he seems pretty reluctant to work with the US.

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Speaker 5: And obviously they just gave us fifty million barrels of

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Speaker 5: the number two security.

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Speaker 2: I know the number one.

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Speaker 4: We just had a great conversation today.

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Speaker 6: And she's a terrific person.

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Speaker 4: I mean, she's somebody that we've worked with very well.

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Speaker 4: Marco Rubios Dealywood, I dealt with her this morning.

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Speaker 2: She's not a terrific person. She's awful. She's part of

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Speaker 2: the Maduro regime. There's absolutely no difference in her running

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Speaker 2: the country or Maduro running the country. None. She's a

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Speaker 2: great person. But what do you want the man to say?

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Speaker 2: What do you want him to say? Oh? Oh, that

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Speaker 2: tellsy Rodriguez she's a low life. Comeback. You know her

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Speaker 2: mom's a skank. Oh my gosh, I heard she's got

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Speaker 2: three or four different sexually transmitted diseases. And she does

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Speaker 2: a really good job or a really terrible job playing

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Speaker 2: maaj On like she's just what in the world do

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Speaker 2: you want the man to say? This is just part

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Speaker 2: of his affect, This is just part of his style,

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Speaker 2: and I can appreciate that it drives some people batty.

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Speaker 2: No one should trust that the Iranians aren't killing people

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Speaker 2: right now. People should trust that there is movement afoot.

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Speaker 2: You have the USS Abraham Lincoln making its way. You have,

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Speaker 2: according to multiple sources, air traffic diverting itself around Iran.

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Speaker 3: You had the Chinese landing planes in Tehran.

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Speaker 2: Were they there to grab some hardware? Were they there

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Speaker 2: to drop some hardware off? Were they there to get

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Speaker 3: Provocative, provocative measure.

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Speaker 2: But everybody is gearing up, everybody is getting ready for

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Speaker 2: what is coming next. And now, in the breaking news

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Speaker 2: of the morning, you had the administration announcing it announcing

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Speaker 2: additional sanctions against Iranian officials. The Secretary of a Rand

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Speaker 2: Supreme Council for National Security naming eighteen people. Entity is

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Speaker 2: accused of money laundering of Iranian oil sales to foreign markets.

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Speaker 2: The objective is to put more of a squeeze on.

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Speaker 2: More of a squeeze does not lead to.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we'll treat the protesters nicer.

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Speaker 2: One of the things to watch here is to ask yourself,

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Speaker 2: is this the end of the regime at all? President Trump,

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Speaker 2: when talking about Venezuela, created a bothersome moment for people,

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Speaker 2: and we discussed it here on the show. Not in

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Speaker 2: the taking of Maduro Fine, no issue, no problem. People

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Speaker 2: called that regime change, And what we discussed here was

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Speaker 2: if the rest of the people remain like the Vice

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Speaker 2: president Delsea Rodriguez, it's not regime change, it's a different outfit.

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Speaker 3: It's the same person. It's the same attitude, same philosophy.

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Speaker 2: In order for the Venezuelan people to really have in

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Speaker 2: a better opportunity, you need this group of Kammie authoritarians. Gone,

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Speaker 2: that's what you need. And so we should be asking

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Speaker 2: ourselves should we be assisting in that process? Well, if

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Speaker 2: we are to believe in the value of the Monroe

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Speaker 2: doctrine that the Western Hemisphere belongs to the United States,

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Speaker 2: and we will not allow, as the Monroe Doctrine did,

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Speaker 2: European influence into the hemisphere, we in today's world will

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Speaker 2: not allow Chinese or Russian influence into the hemisphere. Well,

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Speaker 2: then the Maduro regime has to go in full for

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Speaker 2: the sake of the US and its nationals. So let

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Speaker 2: me say it again, because I see the comments and

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Speaker 2: President Trump who made it our job by saying that

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Speaker 2: we are going to be bringing back the Monroe Doctrine

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Speaker 2: and referring to it as the Trump doctrine or the

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Speaker 2: because there is a recognition that a free Iran, an

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Speaker 2: no longer is trying to engage any level of hegemony.

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Speaker 2: It is an Iran that is no longer funding terrorist

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Speaker 2: Israel but to all other nations because they can no

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Speaker 2: longer engage peacefully. They're forced into these fights and forced

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Speaker 3: The problem is Iran.

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Speaker 2: It is the opposite of what the Obama administration thought,

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Speaker 2: whether it be Barack Obama himself or some of his

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Speaker 2: cigars all day. He's got no shot. All right, maybe

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Speaker 2: I do a little bit more than that, but still

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Speaker 2: being self deprecating, We're getting involved because it is clearly

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Speaker 3: Now that doesn't mean we're still not gonna have other issues.

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Speaker 2: We have clearly made a case for our relationship with

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Speaker 2: We live in the now. We have the ever eastward

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Speaker 2: it has become more Islamic, it has become more dangerous.

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Speaker 2: This was a nation that was working with US to

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Speaker 2: stay out of it. No, you're not gonna stay out

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Speaker 3: If this regime is still in power.

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Speaker 2: And by saying if you kill the protesters, we're coming

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Speaker 2: you may argue that Sham is not going to get

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Speaker 2: could swim, Tommy. Good for you, because there's a chance

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Speaker 3: There's a large chance. Well I discussed some of the issues.

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Speaker 2: There's also opportunity Iran, as a signator of the Abraham Accords,

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Speaker 2: We there the the the opportunities here are great. There

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Speaker 2: we shouldn't be involved at all, people can say it,

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Speaker 2: But here we are. President Trump made us involved. Help

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Speaker 2: is on its way. If you killed protesters, were coming

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Speaker 2: after you, more sanctions, the sending of the USS Abraham Lincoln.

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Speaker 2: Another big story out today, markwood Khalil, the anti American,

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Speaker 2: There is no number listed in the Constitution. We settled

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Speaker 2: on nine. You could have four, you could have sixty three.

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Speaker 2: You can have as many Supreme Court justices as you wish,

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Speaker 2: which is why the Democrats are always talking about packing

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Speaker 2: the court.

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Speaker 3: For the record, I hate the idea.

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Speaker 2: I hate all of this nonsense, and I think the

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Speaker 2: Republicans should add twenty members right now.

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Speaker 3: Democrats are going to do it.

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Speaker 2: Do it, well, Tony, If that's the case, why not

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Speaker 2: just get rid of the philibuster, nuke the philibuster. You

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Speaker 2: know Democrats are going to do it. Oh, if I

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Speaker 2: thought Republicans already had all the votes lined up and

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Speaker 2: the ten pieces of legislation ready to go, and the

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Speaker 2: whip counts all done. If I thought they were organized

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Speaker 2: enough in any way, shape or form to drop the

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Speaker 2: filibuster and get serious legislation through with fifty one votes

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Speaker 2: or fifty votes on the Jdvans tiebreak, absolutely, you know

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Speaker 2: what my faith is in the Republican Party to have

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Speaker 2: that process set up correct zero.

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Speaker 3: That's the problem.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of pure strategy, if you want to

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Speaker 2: get rid of the philibuster, you have to have everything

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Speaker 2: lined up and ready to go. They don't. Democrats would

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Speaker 2: They don't, so you don't drop the filibuster. The Court

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Speaker 2: exists at the creation of Congress or by the creation

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Speaker 2: of Congress, and if the Court could create it, or

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Speaker 2: the Congress can create it, Congress can take it away.

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Speaker 2: And I believe this is something we should be looking at.

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Speaker 2: This is something we should be asking ourselves now. People

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Speaker 2: like Glenn Reynolds, known as the instapundent. If you've ever

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Speaker 2: been to instapundit dot com a great, great site aggregator

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Speaker 2: of news, and Glenn Reynolds is excellent. In A law professor,

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Speaker 2: University of Tennessee, good man, good, good men.

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Speaker 3: He argues that the answer is not less courts.

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Speaker 2: The answer is more, add more courts and put your

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Speaker 2: people on those courts and therefore have more options and opportunities.

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Speaker 2: It's really interesting. It's a really interesting take. But what

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Speaker 2: happened was was that they go to this and it

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Speaker 2: gets voted against the Republicans voted down one sixty three to.

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Speaker 3: Two fifty seven. It's annoying.

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Speaker 2: Now. Maybe the argument is, well, it was part of

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Speaker 2: this appropriations package. You should be a part of something else.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 3: If we're gonna fight, let's fight.

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Speaker 2: If we're going to see these justices engaged in a

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Speaker 2: process of pure politics, one can use pure politics. The

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Speaker 2: court still exists. You just have less money.

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Speaker 3: That's wrong.

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you. If Democrats have power, they're going to

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Speaker 2: do exactly this.

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Speaker 3: Mark this down. It's coming. I'm Tony Kats and this

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Speaker 3: is Tony Katz today. Every day we.

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Speaker 2: Learned that zora'n mom Donnie wasn't lying when he told

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Speaker 2: us he was a communist. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today,

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Speaker 2: good to be with you. And this woman see a

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Speaker 2: weaver who is frightening to look at.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes this mousey woman.

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Speaker 2: Who is going to be in charge of tenants' rights

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Speaker 2: doesn't believe in property rights, thinks that private property is

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Speaker 2: white supremacy. Even though her mom owns a one point

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Speaker 2: six million dollar house. She has never done anything with

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Speaker 2: her life. She's never created anything, she's never built anything.

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Speaker 2: She only knows how to take. And she was on

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Speaker 2: a podcast where she is explaining how rent control is

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Speaker 2: the gateway to socialized houses.

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Speaker 10: Fighting for rent control was a strategic and critical first

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Speaker 10: step in the fight for full social housing. So a

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Speaker 10: lot of times people ask why are we fighting for

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Speaker 10: rent control when we have night show we should be

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Speaker 10: fighting to save.

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Speaker 6: Our public housing.

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Speaker 8: We decided that.

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Speaker 10: Through a program like rent control, we are able to

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Speaker 10: sort of directly challenge the logic of unfettered profit in

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Speaker 10: the real estate, and we are able to directly challenge

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Speaker 10: housing as a wealth building tool, and through regulations, take

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Speaker 10: a globe to the entire real estate industry at once.

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Speaker 10: And so the beauty of rent stabilization and rent control

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Speaker 10: is that it weakens the speculative value of the real

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Speaker 10: estate asset. The value is no longer based on what

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Speaker 10: the landlord is able to get, but rather it's based

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Speaker 10: on a state public board who's.

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Speaker 8: Deciding how much rent is going up.

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Speaker 10: And yes, that board is controlled by the real estate industry,

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Speaker 10: and yes there could be a better way to regulate it.

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Speaker 10: But the idea is that we could weaken the entire

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Speaker 10: industry at once through a strong rent control campaign, and

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Speaker 10: that that would strengthen our ability to do things like

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Speaker 10: fight for social housing.

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Speaker 2: If you want to know what a Tommy this sounds like,

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Speaker 2: there it is, mom. Donnie is a communist. Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 2: is a communist. Acossi Cortez is a communist. See a

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Speaker 2: weaver here is a communist. And this is what they favor,

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Speaker 2: you not having property rights. Property rights are the rights

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Speaker 2: of free people. Without property rights, you're not free. And

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Speaker 2: they're saying, yeah, that's what we want. Every day they're

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Speaker 2: telling you. Every day they're saying you shouldn't own what

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Speaker 2: you own and we should use government to take it.

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Speaker 2: Vote accordingly. These people are dangerous and when they can't

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Speaker 2: get what they want through regulation, they'll do it via

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Speaker 2: the barrel of a gun. Because history has already been written.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Line from Baal Hartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, if.

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Speaker 2: The media isn't lying about what's taking place in Minneapolis,

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Speaker 2: they're not talking about it. I mean, there's you know,

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Speaker 2: the everyday nonsense that's going on. And the people like

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Speaker 2: Representative Vargas who believe that the problem with all things

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Speaker 2: in the world is ice and ice alone.

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Speaker 6: They couldn't have more money at all.

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Speaker 11: In fact, mediency shouldn't continue as it is. They really

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Speaker 11: have to drastically and we're going to fight for that.

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Speaker 11: We're fighting out drastically reduce the amount of mean so

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Speaker 11: they only go after murderers and they only go after rapists.

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Speaker 11: I mean, come on, what they're doing. They're attacking families.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, they are removing people are in the

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Speaker 2: country illegally. Congressmen, But how interesting it is we were discussing.

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Speaker 3: This legislation that Congressanship Roy this.

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Speaker 2: Amendment that he wanted to add that would reduce the

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Speaker 2: funding to activist judges like Judge Bosberg out of DC

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Speaker 2: and Republicans voted with Democrats to nix the idea. Oh,

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Speaker 2: we can't lower their funding but lower the funding for ice. Oh, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: that has to happen. I said it. When they have

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Speaker 2: the power they'll do anything when you have the power.

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Speaker 2: How dare you think you can do anything? Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, Good to be here, good to be

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Speaker 2: with you find everything over at Tony Katz dot com.

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Speaker 2: But this has become the new sensation, the conversations all

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Speaker 2: having to do with this terrible ice. They shouldn't even exist.

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Speaker 2: And look how they're violating the law, and well, what

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Speaker 2: kind of people are they? Anyway?

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Speaker 9: There's also a landscaper who's caregiver to a nine year

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Speaker 9: old son with cerebral palsy who has swept up. He's

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Speaker 9: been in this country for twenty years. What is the

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Speaker 9: effect on people, individual families that I think maybe can

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Speaker 9: get lost when we're seeing so many arrests in such

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Speaker 9: a short amount of time, and simultaneously the effect on

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Speaker 9: a broader psyche.

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Speaker 2: That's not journalism, that is why don't you feel bad?

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Speaker 2: We engage this conversation constantly, these people who want to

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Speaker 2: think that their emotions should run our lives. Why do

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Speaker 2: we have laws if the laws make us feel bad?

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Speaker 2: If we listen to this ms NOW host, it's okay

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Speaker 2: to deport people, but not so many at once. What

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Speaker 2: about the man who's been here for twenty years and

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Speaker 2: is the caregiver to their nine year old son with

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Speaker 2: cerebral palsy. Yeah, you're absolutely right, man. That is not

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Speaker 2: an easy road to hoe right there. That's difficult stuff.

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Speaker 2: He is here illegally. What now do we do well,

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Speaker 2: because you have a nine year old son with cerebral palsy.

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Speaker 2: We do nothing. We do nothing. What do you mean

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Speaker 2: we do nothing? If you want to argue that we

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Speaker 2: need to have these moments where there are circumstances extenuating,

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Speaker 2: and that we should want these people into the country,

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Speaker 2: well that would be a lot easier of a conversation

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Speaker 2: to have if you're a fellow brethren of the political left.

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Speaker 2: Weren't attacking ICE agents in Minneapolis doing their job, if

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Speaker 2: you weren't interested in shooting ICE agents in Dallas, if

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Speaker 2: you were actually interested in border security and telling people

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Speaker 2: who broke the law, who are providing no value and

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Speaker 2: engaged in violence, they're not welcome. But you don't even

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Speaker 2: do that. On the political left. You argue that every

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Speaker 2: instance is proof that this should stop, and that the

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Speaker 2: people here illegally should be allowed to stay, and should

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Speaker 2: be allowed to profit, and should be allowed in some

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Speaker 2: cases to be violence criminals, because no, not everybody who's

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Speaker 2: come across the border as a violent criminal. But if

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Speaker 2: we stopped the people coming across the border, we would

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Speaker 2: stop violent criminals coming across the border. Which is why

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Speaker 2: I favor the moves that we've made on the border.

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Speaker 2: It's why I favor the idea of ice and the

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Speaker 2: value that they provide. You provide me this example, and

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Speaker 2: I could provide you, well, here are the illegal immigrants

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Speaker 2: who've got about killing people like Lake and Riley in

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Speaker 2: a host of others. I can't notice that. The answer

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Speaker 2: is first, let's find out who's in the country illegally.

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Speaker 2: Then let's put them in custody. We can have a

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Speaker 2: conversation if you know what, they've been here for twenty

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Speaker 2: years in there taking care of their their nine year

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Speaker 2: old kid with tybra palsy. What do we want to

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Speaker 2: do about that? Oh, that guy's a murderer. Bye. Oh

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Speaker 2: that guy isn't the murderer, but isn't taking care of

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Speaker 2: a nine year old to tarble palsy? Bye? Would you

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Speaker 2: favor that political left? No, you won't even engage that. Instead,

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Speaker 2: you give me Eddie Cloud with conversations like this.

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Speaker 12: Right, I think you know, I mean, people are terrorized,

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Speaker 12: people are deeply afraid, focus are depressed. There's a sense

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Speaker 12: that people feel hopeless and in sometimes they're angry.

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Speaker 2: That is how the political rights and independence have felt

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Speaker 2: for years, while the left has allowed people into the country,

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Speaker 2: and while the political right didn't do enough to keep

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Speaker 2: those who shouldn't be here out of the country for

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Speaker 2: four years under Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: The fear you want to talk about the anger? Can

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Speaker 3: we talk about.

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Speaker 2: The families of those women who've been raped and killed,

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Speaker 2: those men killed, attacked.

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Speaker 3: Harmed by those here legally.

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Speaker 2: Again, this isn't a rational conversation from Princeton University professor

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Speaker 2: Eddie Cloud. This is emotional problem. Can't run a country

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Speaker 2: this way and they think that they are the only

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Speaker 2: people connected to it. They think they're the only ones

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Speaker 2: who should be allowed to have I don't know, some

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Speaker 2: kind of feeling about this, that their emotion gives them

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Speaker 2: some type of they're already a leader, some type of

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Speaker 2: moral superiority. That's the word I was looking for. No, none, zero,

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Speaker 2: You ain't special and you don't care more.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you stop it? You are not special?

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Speaker 2: And this argument that you're making is nonsense and childlike,

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Speaker 2: and they want to strike out.

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Speaker 12: They want to figure out how do they, in so

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Speaker 12: many ways say no to what.

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Speaker 2: Is being done in their names. We need to be clear.

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Speaker 6: I think the country faces a choice.

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Speaker 12: It's a moral choice in some ways, with political implication

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Speaker 12: about who we're going to be.

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Speaker 2: And these folks.

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Speaker 3: Are acting in the name of the country.

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Speaker 2: No, they are not. The people attacking I sagents are

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Speaker 2: not acting in the name of the country. They are

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Speaker 2: acting to put an end to it. You want a

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Speaker 2: debate again, I say to you, how much more do

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Speaker 2: you have to hear from these people until you understand

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Speaker 2: that they believe they have moral superiority and they should

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Speaker 2: have dominion over you.

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Speaker 3: Here he is excusing the violence.

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Speaker 2: As you may know by now, there was a shooting

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Speaker 2: in Minneapolis that took place.

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Speaker 3: This shooting involved an ICE agent.

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Speaker 2: If you were to listen to the press, the press

666
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Speaker 2: would tell you that ICE shot another innocent person. First

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Speaker 2: things first, Renee Good was not innocent. I didn't say

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Speaker 2: Renee Good should have been shot. I'll take an investigation

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Speaker 2: for that. Renee Good was not innocent. That's what I said.

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Speaker 2: Here's Ice. They're just out of control. They're shooting everybody.

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Speaker 2: The story, if you haven't, if you haven't heard it

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Speaker 2: by now, is that ICE was targeting someone in the

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Speaker 2: country illegally who happened to be from Venezuela, and ICE

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Speaker 2: tried to stop this person in their car. They drove

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Speaker 2: off and they ram their car into another vehicle. They

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Speaker 2: then this suspect gets out and runs. Ice pursues, an

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Speaker 2: ICE agent tackles him, and they're in a struggle because

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Speaker 2: why would you listen to an ICE agent? Why renee

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Speaker 2: Good doesn't listen to law enforcement and somehow she's a hero.

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Speaker 2: ICE agent doesn't have to doesn't. You shouldn't think that

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Speaker 2: this illegal immigrant is going to listen. That's not happening.

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Speaker 2: The fight ensues. Two people come out of a house

683
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Speaker 2: and attack the ICE agent with a shovel and a broomstick.

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Speaker 2: The suspect gets free, and the suspect starts hitting the

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Speaker 2: ICE agent with a shovel and a broomstick. The ICE

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Speaker 2: agent pulls their weapon and fires at the suspect, hitting

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Speaker 2: him in the leg. The three of them retreat back

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Speaker 2: to the house. ICE is that able to get into

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Speaker 2: the house and they are arrested. How does the press

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Speaker 2: discuss this. The press says, Ice shoots, Ice shoots a protester,

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Speaker 2: It's an obscenity. They lie, they refuse to tell the story,

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Speaker 2: they want to engage in an emotional manipulation, and all

693
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Speaker 2: of it is wrong, and we're not going to fall

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Speaker 2: for it for a second because they have no moral superiority, none,

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Speaker 2: and we should be people who follow the law. The

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Speaker 2: press briefing is beginning. I'll bring it to you when

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Speaker 2: we come back. Keep it here.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, and as you know, Riley a dentistry and already

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Speaker 13: has done so. We've taken action in a number of

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Speaker 13: fronts against these states who are failing to uphold the

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Speaker 13: President's executive orders, in this administration's policy of simply protecting

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Speaker 13: women in women's sports and in women's private spaces.

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Speaker 2: The question came from Riley Gaines, who of course made

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Speaker 2: her bones as being someone who said, Hey, Leah Thompson's

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Speaker 2: a man.

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Speaker 3: Are we all crazed? Tony Katz, Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Good to be with you. I've interviewed Riley Gaines myself.

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Speaker 2: She has become the champion on this subject and becoming

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Speaker 2: unbelievably effective. Was talking about how the Supreme Court heard

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Speaker 2: two different arguments just yesterday or day before regarding this

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Speaker 2: idea of boys and girls sports and protecting women in

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Speaker 2: women's sports, and what will the White House did Trump

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Speaker 2: administration do if states refuse to follow along with where

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Speaker 2: the Court may go.

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Speaker 3: Considering the indications.

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Speaker 2: Of right now, in her view, are that they're going

718
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Speaker 2: to agree that there is a way to separate regarding

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Speaker 2: sex and it is not discriminatory. So the White House

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Speaker 2: briefing is going on. Caroline Levin talked a lot about

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Speaker 2: healthcare prices. Let's take it to some of the questions

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Speaker 2: that they that the press are asking.

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Speaker 6: Took the underway.

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Speaker 2: We'll can share about that.

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Speaker 14: And then also the President said yesterday that Delca Rodriguez

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Speaker 14: spoke a terrickic person. Does the President trust the relief

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Speaker 14: the remaining members of the duo regime?

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Speaker 8: I will say to your first question.

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Speaker 13: The meeting was about to begin as I was stepping

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Speaker 13: out of the Oval Office moments ago.

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Speaker 8: So my understanding is that it's underway right now.

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Speaker 2: I know the.

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Speaker 13: President was looking forward to this meeting and he's was

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Speaker 13: expecting it to be a good and positive discussion with Ms. Mashadow,

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Speaker 13: who is really a remarkable and brave voice for many

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Speaker 13: of the people of Venezuela. So the President looks forward

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Speaker 13: to obviously talking to her about the realities on the

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Speaker 13: ground in the country and what is taking place. As

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Speaker 13: for Miss Rodriguez, the President did speak with her directly

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Speaker 13: this week, as you know. He revealed that to all

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Speaker 13: of you yesterday in Secretary Rubio and the administration have

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Speaker 13: been in constant communication with Miss Rodriguez and other members

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Speaker 13: of the interim government in Venezuela. You're extremely cooperative. They

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Speaker 13: have thus far met all of the demands and requests

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Speaker 13: of the United States and of the President, and I

746
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Speaker 13: think you have all seen that play out. We obviously

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Speaker 13: had a million dollar excl that was struck in large

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Speaker 13: part because of the cooperation from Miss Rodriguez Venezuela and

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Speaker 13: Miss Rodriguez have also confirmed that they will be releasing

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Speaker 13: political prisoners from Venezuela. There were five Americans who were

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Speaker 13: recently released this week as well. So the President likes

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Speaker 13: what he's seeing and we'll expect that cooperation to continue.

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Speaker 14: And I'm regarding the investigation into the league that the

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Speaker 14: President referenced yesterday. What is the administration's position on the

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Speaker 14: Washington pust reporter. The Post has reported that she was

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Speaker 14: told she's not a target of the investigation. Does the

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Speaker 14: administration believe.

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Speaker 2: She did anything wrong?

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Speaker 14: And also, what is the administration's position on the Pentagon

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Speaker 14: Paper's case from the night p seventies that affirmed reporter's

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Speaker 14: right to publish classified information under certain certain extents.

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Speaker 13: Well, since this is an active investigation, I don't want

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Speaker 13: to comment on it to much more than what we

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Speaker 13: did yesterday to obviously confirm the investigation, and I can

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Speaker 13: confirm what the Attorney General stated and the President as well,

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Speaker 13: which is that the individual, unfortunately a contractor at the Pentagon,

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Speaker 13: chose to unlawfully leak classified and very serious information to

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Speaker 13: this Washington Post reporter. Hence why the reporter's home was

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Speaker 13: looked into, by.

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Speaker 2: The way we got into that yesterday, that the reporter

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Speaker 2: was not the one member of the subject of the investigation,

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Speaker 2: but rather this leak and this moving of classified information.

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Speaker 2: But to get back to what was said being said

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Speaker 2: prior about Trump's meeting with Mashado, the Nobel Prize winner

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Speaker 2: of the opposition to Nicholas Maduro, that meeting is happening,

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Speaker 2: as she said right now. The release of prisoners is

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Speaker 2: always great, and release American of Americans is always fantastic. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: But this is the first time I've heard anybody refer

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Speaker 2: to Delsea Rodriguez, the vice president of Venezuela, the number

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Speaker 2: two to Nicholas Maduro as the interim was the interim

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Speaker 2: regime or interim leadership. It is the first time I

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Speaker 2: have heard that terminology be used. So the question is

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Speaker 2: if it's interim, interim to what another election will we

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Speaker 2: be the election observers to the guy who won the

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Speaker 2: previous election, Gonzales being installed to a decision that the

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Speaker 2: United States will make with almost unilaterally to say, okay,

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Speaker 2: ma shadow, you're the opposition leader. Now it's here. It is.

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Speaker 2: It's the first time I've heard interim and interram means well,

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Speaker 2: something has to be coming.

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Speaker 3: What will that system be?

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Speaker 13: Back to the presser, DTV broadcasting and I implicit threat

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Speaker 13: to president's life.

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Speaker 8: It was images of the assassination.

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Speaker 6: Attempt in Butler message this time it will not go wrong.

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Speaker 8: I have not seen that.

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Speaker 13: To be honest with you, Jackie will take a look

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Speaker 13: and I'll let the president and his national security team

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Speaker 13: examine that footage to ensure its legitimacy.

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Speaker 8: Again, I haven't seen it, so I can't comment on it.

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Speaker 13: What I will say with respect to Iran is that

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Speaker 13: the President and his team have communicated to the Iranian

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Speaker 13: regime that if the killing continues, there will be grave consequences.

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Speaker 8: And the President received a message, as.

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Speaker 13: He revealed to all of you in the whole world yesterday,

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Speaker 13: that the killing and the executions will stop. And the

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Speaker 13: President understands today that eight hundred executions that were scheduled

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Speaker 13: and supposed to take place yesterday were halted. And so

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Speaker 13: the President and his team are closely monitoring this situation,

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Speaker 13: and all options remain on the table.

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Speaker 8: For the President, and I hope that.

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Speaker 2: All look.

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Speaker 13: It's true that spoke with Prime Minister net Yahoo, but

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Speaker 13: I would detail details about their conversation without giving the

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Speaker 13: expressed approval by the President himself.

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Speaker 8: Queja, thank you, Caroline.

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Speaker 15: Is it still the president's assessment that it would be

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Speaker 15: very hard for Miss Machado to leave Venezuela because he

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Speaker 15: says she lacks.

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Speaker 2: The respect and support in that country, and will he

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Speaker 2: raise that with her too.

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Speaker 13: I think the President's assessment that you just pointed out

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Speaker 13: was based on realities on the ground. It was a

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Speaker 13: realistic assessment based on what the president was reading and

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Speaker 13: hearing from his advisors and national security team, and at

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Speaker 13: this moment in time, his opinion on that matter has

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Speaker 13: not changed.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I also said that.

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Speaker 2: So this has been the argument that here goes Maduro,

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Speaker 2: he gets captured, and the government didn't fall, and the

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Speaker 2: people didn't say we want Machado to lead us, and

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Speaker 2: the military didn't move. Everyone kind of.

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Speaker 3: Everyone kind of stayed right where they are.

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Speaker 2: And the argument was was that where was the movement

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Speaker 2: to a Machado, to to a this other guy, Gonzales.

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Speaker 3: Where was the movement to something new?

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Speaker 2: None of the players that would have to move moved,

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Speaker 2: And maybe you'd have to cajole those people in a

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Speaker 2: way that we were not prepared to do at the moment.

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Speaker 2: And maybe that while Mashado is a force for the opposition,

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Speaker 2: she may not be the force to lead the nation.

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Speaker 2: So that's that seems to be the conversation now, and

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Speaker 2: that's what Trump said. So now that they're meeting today, well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how that park goes or it's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're doing incredible work and you won the Nobel Prize

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Speaker 2: and rightfully so. But yeah, you can't do this, Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how that comes together. I don't what

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Speaker 2: it is Mashadow is going to say to him in

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Speaker 2: that meeting. But again, I go back to it. If

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Speaker 2: you want to enable the idea or agree with the

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Speaker 2: idea that Trump is bringing back the Monroe doctrine, the

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Speaker 2: Monroe doction which wanted to limit European influence of the

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Speaker 2: Western hemisphere, and we want to use it today to

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Speaker 2: limit Russian and Chinese influence in the Western Hemisphere. Well

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Speaker 2: then you have to get rid of the Maduda regime.

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Speaker 2: And that's everybody because they're on communists and Russian and

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Speaker 2: Chinese influence. We're fresh conference coming up, I'm Tony.

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Speaker 8: That's the plan is put in place. Every single American

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Speaker 8: who has healthcare in the.

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Speaker 13: United States will see lower costs as a result, they

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Speaker 13: will see more transparency. All of these proposals that are

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Speaker 13: within the Great Healthcare Plan are incredibly popular with the

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Speaker 13: American people and they will impact everyone, not just a

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Speaker 13: small fraction of those who are within the healthcare marketplace,

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Speaker 13: but every single American will continue to see their costs

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Speaker 13: go down.

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Speaker 8: And I will note that they already.

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Speaker 13: Are respec to prescription drug prices. When you look at

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Speaker 13: what the President has done with most favored nations, You've

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Speaker 13: seen these big pharmaceutical companies in the Oval Office saying

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Speaker 13: that this president and his team were NonStop around the

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Speaker 13: clock pressuring us and negotiating with us to lower the cost.

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Speaker 8: Of prescription drugs for Americans.

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Speaker 13: And we are already seeing that to the tune in

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Speaker 13: some cases of more than five hundred percent. And that

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Speaker 13: Trump bar X website is something that the administration will

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Speaker 13: be formally not launching very soon, so Americans will have

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Speaker 13: access to those lower costs of drugs.

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Speaker 2: Lower cost should come via regulation and not via force.

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Speaker 2: But neither here nor there, Tony Katz, Tony Katz. Today,

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Speaker 2: it's the White House Press Briefing. That's Caroline Levitt who

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Speaker 2: is speaking. I'm not sure familiar with everything in this

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Speaker 2: legislation idea, but when it comes to pricing, and hey,

883
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Speaker 2: here it is, it's written out, it's transparent, it's totally accessible,

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Speaker 2: and you're knowing what things are going to cost immediately.

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Speaker 2: That is something that's popular. That is some thing that

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Speaker 2: people do want I think across the board, regardless of party,

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Speaker 2: that's something for sure that people want government engaging force

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Speaker 2: and saying you'll do this and you'll do that, and

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Speaker 2: not looking at maybe the regulatory environment that has caused

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Speaker 2: these issues. I think that's a great problem. That's just me.

891
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Speaker 2: But it's going to be popular. Doesn't mean just because

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Speaker 2: something is popular doesn't mean it's a good idea. Captain

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Speaker 2: credit card rates, It just rates a ten percent terrible idea.

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Speaker 2: Wildly popular, but terrible idea. Let's bring a bract to

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Speaker 2: the press briefing if we could.

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Speaker 13: Is like with all decisions, it's a decision for the

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Speaker 13: president to make, and he said to Reuter's in that

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Speaker 13: interview last night that he thinks he'll be finally making

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Speaker 13: that decision in.

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Speaker 8: The next couple of weeks, so we will.

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Speaker 16: See very quickly. There's been some criticism from other governments

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Speaker 16: about Rock and XAI, the Twitter AI bought things that's

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Speaker 16: been doing to maniculate images, including whether that would violate

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Speaker 16: to Take It Down Act that the first lady to

905
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Speaker 16: support or being offered this administration on it. Elon must

906
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Speaker 16: says that they've disabled that. But I wanted to ask

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Speaker 16: you whether the administration has a position, and whether that's

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Speaker 16: something that you will be whether the President is talking

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Speaker 16: to mister Musk about that.

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Speaker 13: Yes, I will talk to the Office of Science and

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Speaker 13: Technology and we will get you a firm statement and

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Speaker 13: answer on exactly where the administration stands. I don't want

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Speaker 13: to speak on that without speaking with the experts on it.

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Speaker 8: Yes, but just a follow up them and health care

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Speaker 8: and register existing conditions?

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Speaker 5: Is there any discussion or inclusion on that issue in

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Speaker 5: the President's work.

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Speaker 13: The President's plan that he outlined today will have no

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Speaker 13: impact on individuals in this country with pre existing conditions.

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Speaker 13: Obviously that's a continued conversation that the White House will

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Speaker 13: have with Congress. But that's not the president's intention with

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Speaker 13: the Great Healthcare Plan.

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Speaker 8: Go ahead, thanks, Caroline. Two questions on Minneapolis and then

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Speaker 8: go ahead. I have two questions on Minneapolis and turned

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Speaker 8: on the Ice age. Any other on the writing.

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Speaker 7: I believe last night there were protesters, rioters that rifle

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Speaker 7: through an NBI card tow with weapons. We had a

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Speaker 7: reporter invet Ice who said that she saw a constant

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Speaker 7: brassman all evening.

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Speaker 9: Can you speak to the.

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Speaker 8: Rhetoric we're hearing from.

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Speaker 7: Democrat politicians whether they are causing violence against ICE, as

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Speaker 7: well as some of the headlines we've seen, not including

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Speaker 7: the full story.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean to your first point, I think I've

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Speaker 13: addressed that that these Democrat governors and mayors in not

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Speaker 13: just Minnesota, but in states across the country are essentially

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Speaker 13: you know, they've referred to ICE agents, who again are

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Speaker 13: brave men and women.

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Speaker 8: And I would encourage everyone in this room, and I.

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Speaker 13: Would encourage Governor Walls and other Democrats who are demeaning

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Speaker 13: law enforcement to sit down and have a cup of

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Speaker 13: coffee with an ICE agent or a Border patrol agent.

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Speaker 13: These are great, patriotic men and women who have families,

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Speaker 13: who put on the uniform every day and are following

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Speaker 13: our nation's immigration laws at the direction of their bosses

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Speaker 13: and again at the direction of the law. They are

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Speaker 13: simply trying to enforce the law. And the Democrat Party

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Speaker 13: has demeaned these individuals. They've even referred to them as

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Speaker 13: Nazis and as the Gestapo, and that is absolutely leading to.

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Speaker 8: The violence we're seeing in the streets.

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Speaker 13: If you look at some of the images out of

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Speaker 13: Minneapolis last night, look.

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Speaker 8: At this vehicle, look at what it says. It says

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Speaker 8: f ICE.

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Speaker 13: You have these individuals who are putting their middle finger

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Speaker 13: proudly so at the camera. Another ICE individual a vehicle

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Speaker 13: that was vandalized last night by these left wing agitators.

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Speaker 13: People don't do this without encouragement from people in power

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Speaker 13: who make them feel like it's okay. Here's another one

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Speaker 13: and I'm pretty sure this car you can't see. It

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Speaker 13: said the best agent is a dead agent, or something

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Speaker 13: to that effect.

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Speaker 8: This is despicable rhetoric that we're seeing. And the media is.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely complicit in this violence, because if you look at

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Speaker 13: the headline from CNN protests erupt after federal agent shoots

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Speaker 13: man in Minneapolis, that.

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Speaker 8: Is not the story. That is not the truth.

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Speaker 13: If you actually want to know the truth, you can

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Speaker 13: look at what the Department of Homeland Security released, which

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Speaker 13: is that this ICE agent was executing a targeted operation

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Speaker 13: against a venezuelan, a legal alien who was unlawfully present

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Speaker 13: in the country, who fled by car and then fled

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Speaker 13: by foot, and when this ICE agent tried to detain

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Speaker 13: the individual, three more of his comrades came rushing out

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Speaker 13: of a house and started ambushing and attacking the ICE

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Speaker 13: agent that used a shovel or broom to smash his

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Speaker 13: face in, and so yes, that agent had to use

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Speaker 13: self defense and take up his weapon to protect his

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Speaker 13: own life. That is what's happening on the streets of Minneapolis.

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Speaker 13: That's what's happening on the streets unfortunately of these Democrat

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Speaker 13: runs cities and states where you have elected officials who

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Speaker 13: are encouraging such violence against our brave men and women.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely the fashion first or follow up one. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to get back to this X story really quick

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Speaker 2: because the story about X Twitter is how Europe does

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Speaker 2: not in.

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Speaker 3: Any way value of free speech.

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Speaker 2: And Kure Starmer, the Prime Minister of the United king

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Speaker 2: has shown himself as absolutely opposed to it. He wants

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Speaker 2: social media to be stopped, He wants to be able

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Speaker 2: to have access to people's cell phones. He does not

993
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Speaker 2: believe that you have any right to encryption. It is

994
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Speaker 2: the UK that tries to get Apple to invent back

995
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Speaker 2: doors into the phone so the UK can get into them,

996
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Speaker 2: which would affect every Apple user around the globe. And

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Speaker 2: I do believe that the United States has to be

998
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Speaker 2: proactive in pushing back and saying you have no right

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Speaker 2: to the data of States citizens and will fight you

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Speaker 2: if we have to. But this thing about X and

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Speaker 2: it's Ai Groc and the images it can create. So

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Speaker 2: it came out the other day that you can certainly

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Speaker 2: with AI and with the Grock AI, you can create images,

1004
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Speaker 2: and you can create images that are suggestive. And I said,

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Speaker 2: I'd well, what does this mean. Well, people were creating

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Speaker 2: images of female politicians and bikinis. And I said, okay, hey, Grock,

1007
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Speaker 2: do you see this as a problem, like these images

1008
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Speaker 2: could be used to harm the reputation of the subject

1009
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Speaker 2: of the images. And Groc responded, I'm paraphrasing here with

1010
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Speaker 2: basically someone could do something like that, but we don't

1011
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Speaker 2: think that.

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Speaker 3: We don't think Rock.

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Speaker 2: Should be limited in its ability to create them. I said,

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Speaker 2: so you could create an image of and I mentioned

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Speaker 2: an image and like yeah, And I said, and you

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Speaker 2: don't see that as a problem, And they were like no,

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Speaker 2: I think that we should be asking ourselves whether or

1018
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Speaker 2: not that's a problem. And so when it was referenced

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Speaker 2: the first Lady and to Take It Down Act, which

1020
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Speaker 2: is the idea of things like revenge, porn and a

1021
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Speaker 2: whole host of subjects where people are creating imagery or

1022
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Speaker 2: taking private videos and posting it and how this affects

1023
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Speaker 2: people's lives. First, we have to address it from just

1024
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Speaker 2: a rational viewpoint of what kind of people are we? Well,

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Speaker 2: we're gon we're gonna utilize AI to destroy people, to

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Speaker 2: create images of them and in provocative ways that they

1027
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Speaker 2: never were, to try and humiliate or demeanor or really

1028
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Speaker 2: destroy reputation, destroy opportunity to destroy reputation. That's that is

1029
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Speaker 2: madness that we would think that we should make that

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Speaker 2: easier to do. But do we want to be in

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Speaker 2: the business of limiting parody, because isn't that also it

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Speaker 2: we've determined that parody is allowed. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: we're discussing parody here. If it's a named the Politico

1034
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Speaker 2: in some stage of undress, in some specific scene, I

1035
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Speaker 2: think that the question is a real one, And that

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Speaker 2: question is far different than the Prime Minister of the

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Speaker 2: United Kingdom saying you can't say things we don't like.

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Speaker 2: If I say something about pick the politico, Nancy Mace,

1039
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Speaker 2: Congresswoman South Carolina. If I say something about Nancy Mace,

1040
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Speaker 2: I can say anything. If I create the imagery of

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Speaker 2: Nancy Mace in some type of situation.

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Speaker 3: Am I known law? Is that still free speech?

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Speaker 2: Or am I engaging in a sland or a libel,

1044
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Speaker 2: a reputation destruction that's actionable. I think they're two different things.

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Speaker 2: If I state that Islamists have no place in a

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Speaker 2: civil society or in Western civilization.

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Speaker 3: Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister of the.

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Speaker 2: UK, thinks I'm the problem when I've engaged in something

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Speaker 2: factual or.

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Speaker 3: At least an opinion. He wants that removed.

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Speaker 2: He wants you not to be able to enter the country,

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Speaker 2: and he has said this to people. He has told people, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: it's the the UK has decided you're not entitled to

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Speaker 2: a visa. You're not good for you are not a

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Speaker 2: valuable piece of the public good, or you cannot increase

1056
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Speaker 2: the public good, so we're not going to have you

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Speaker 2: in the country. That's nuts because I mentioned that Islamists

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Speaker 2: are danger, the world's over because I mentioned that the

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Speaker 2: UK has been overrun by Islamists. Because I've stated quite

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Speaker 2: clearly that Prince William it will be King William will

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Speaker 2: be the last King of England if he doesn't do

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Speaker 2: something about this. For that twelve thousand people who have

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Speaker 2: posted things like that, if you will on social media,

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Speaker 2: are in jail or are dealing with the police coming

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Speaker 2: after them, but the Islamist themself, nothing happens. That's a problem.

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Speaker 2: That's an ugly guy. The UK needs to send him

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Speaker 2: on his way. But should we say to the technology, yes,

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Speaker 2: you can create imagery that will damage and ruin reputation,

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Speaker 2: ruin lives, denigrate and demean in that way. I do

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Speaker 2: not know if we should do such a thing. I

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Speaker 2: think we should. I think we should be shying away

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Speaker 2: from such things. And maybe the answer is Tony, if

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Speaker 2: you're asking societally what we should do, maybe you're right.

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Speaker 2: But maybe you can't stop the technology from being the technology.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you can't decide what it is that people do

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Speaker 2: with it. Maybe that is the answer. We will continue

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Speaker 2: that conversation, keep it here. I'm Tony Katz, and this

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Speaker 2: is Tony Kats. Today, Virginia decides not to stick with

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Speaker 2: more of the same. Regarding Glenn Youngkin, of course he

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Speaker 2: was not able to run again, and winsome Earl Sears

1081
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Speaker 2: runs for the Republican side, and as I learned later, man,

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Speaker 2: they did not run good races in Virginia, and the

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Speaker 2: Democrat Abigail Spamberger wins, and she will be the next

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Speaker 2: covernor of Virginia. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, great to

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Speaker 2: be with you. And we already know that Democrats have

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Speaker 2: been able to get hold of the state legislature there

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Speaker 2: and what are they doing now? A new bill would

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Speaker 2: prohibit public schools in the state from describing January sixth,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one as a peaceful protest. Democrats have filed legislation.

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Speaker 2: It would require any public school district that wants to

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Speaker 2: teach you about January sixth to describe it as quote

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Speaker 2: an event unprecedented, violent attack on the United States Democratic institutions, infrastructure,

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Speaker 2: and representatives for the p overturning the results of the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty presidential election. It used to be that abortion

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Speaker 2: was the religion of the left. Now it's January sixth.

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Speaker 2: It was such a violent action that the police let

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Speaker 2: people in and they walked between the velvet ropes. I

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Speaker 2: didn't say they weren't violent people. I said to explain

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Speaker 2: it as they want to explain it is not to

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Speaker 2: tell the whole story. But the whole story is not

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Speaker 2: what they want. The story that they want to tell

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Speaker 2: is what they want, and they're hell bent on doing it,

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01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 2: hell bent on only giving one side, like they did

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Speaker 2: in the hearings that were put together for prime time

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01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 2: by a television showrunner with no rebuttal. And then where

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01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 2: are the records, where are their notes? Where is what

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01:10:56,479 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 2: they did? Did that stuff really get destroyed? You're watching

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01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,799
Speaker 2: a gas lighting operation happen. There are people who engage

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Speaker 2: in violence. They should be in jail. There are people

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01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: who did nothing wrong. They shouldn't be in jail. It

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Speaker 2: was a riot, It wasn't an insurrection. Minneapolis is an

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01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 2: insurrection that it's not prove it. I can prove to

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01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 2: you that January sixth was a riot and I opposed it.

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01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 2: Then we're attacking law enforcement, disregarding the laws of the land,

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Speaker 2: and proudly getting support by members of Congress Insurrection in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: Change my mind. Find everything at Tony Katz dot com

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01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 2: more to get to Tony got today.

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Speaker 1: Lie from the Heartland and the crossroads of America cats today.

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Speaker 2: So with all the conversations about ice, immigrations and customs enforcement,

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Speaker 2: and all the anger that the political left has mustered here,

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Speaker 2: all the violence that they are engaged in, and I

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01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 2: know that mainstream media doesn't like to talk about the

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Speaker 2: fact that the left is violent, but they are.

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Speaker 3: We should be honest and clear.

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Speaker 2: About what it is that's happening. Tony Katz Tony Kats Today,

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Speaker 2: Good to be here, good to be with you find

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01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:28,440
Speaker 2: everything at Tony kats dot com. They aren't engaged in protests.

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Speaker 2: They are engaged in violence against law enforcement. They don't

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Speaker 2: believe in the country like you and I believe in

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01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 2: the country. They want to tear it all down. They

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01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 2: believe their feelings are enough. They believe that somehow their

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01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 2: feelings make them justified. And what they feel is if

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01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 2: you disagree with them, it's okay to hurt you. This

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01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 2: is where their feelings have led them, not to a

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Speaker 2: rational place, not to even a place of woe. Maybe

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01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 2: we're going a little too far. They feel justified in

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01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 2: hurting or ki telling you this isn't hyperbole. This is

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01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 2: what they have said, what they have shown, how they

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01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 2: have acted. And all we're doing is noticing. If they

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01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 2: want to get angry at us noticing, well, that's fine,

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01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 2: that's wonderful, that's terrific. But that's their problem. We notice things,

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01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 2: and we notice that the media gets into conversations like

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Speaker 2: this one on CNN.

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Speaker 17: To what extent, Maria, do you think that these are

1145
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 17: the pictures that the White House wants, that they are

1146
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 17: sort of baiting protesters in Minneapolis into this because last

1147
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 17: night there was violence on certainly.

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Speaker 3: The vehicles of ice. There was destruction.

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Speaker 17: There was according to Homeland Security, this federal officer who

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01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 17: was attacked and acted in self defense.

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Speaker 2: Now the pictures that they're showing is ICE agents. They're

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01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 2: being surrounded, They're utilizing tear gas and other things to

1153
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 2: push the crowd back. A lot of screaming, a lot

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01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 2: of yelling. Here is the leftist answering Maria Cardona is

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01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 2: her name, answering the host here, John Berman. John.

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Speaker 15: I think that Doug brings up a good point, which

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01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 15: is I don't necessarily think Donald Trump cares about that,

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Speaker 15: And in fact, he might like those kinds of pictures

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01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 15: because he is so power hungry. But I bet you

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01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 15: that the politically savvy people, perhaps Suthie Wiles understands it.

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Speaker 15: For Republicans who have to be on the ballot in

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01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 15: twenty twenty six, this is political kryptonite.

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Speaker 2: I reject the premise, and I think that's a bad

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01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 2: take from the Democratic strategist, to the extent that there

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01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 2: is such a thing.

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01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 3: Maria Cardona Trump likes the photos.

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Speaker 2: Well, if the argument is, look at all these anti

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01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 2: American forces attacking law enforcement, look at all these anti

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01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 2: American forces protecting illegal immigrants. We should do something about this.

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Speaker 2: And this is why I got nearly eighty million votes

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: This is what people.

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Speaker 2: Voted for to put an end to this madness and

1174
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 2: bring safety to the streets. That's not kryptonite for Republicans. Sorry,

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01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 2: it's just a complete and total misread of the situation.

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Speaker 3: But I think the larger scale misread.

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Speaker 2: Here is you take a look at the imagery, and

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Speaker 2: it's what Trump wants. If that's the case, why is

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01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 2: the left giving Trump what he wants? No, no, no, no,

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01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 2: no no no. What you are seeing is what the

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01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 2: left wants, not what Trump wants, and not what the

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01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 2: right wants. The left wants the violence because why, this

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01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 2: is how its people act, react and want to engage.

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01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 2: The studies, the research, the polling shows that more and

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Speaker 2: more on the.

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01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 3: Left feel that violent is okay.

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01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 2: When they disagree, they're the ones that go out there

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01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 2: and don't peacefully protest, they're doing anything, but they're quite

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Speaker 2: literally fighting with law enforcement. They are attacking law enforcement,

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Speaker 2: ramming the vehicles of law enforcement, using their vehicles to

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01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 2: ram actual law enforcement officers, not just the cars. They're

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Speaker 2: doing this. Everything that they have pushed, everything they have done,

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Speaker 2: is violent and violence, and they believe that it is

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Speaker 2: somehow ordained that they are okay to provide this violence,

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Speaker 2: to engage in this violence, that somehow it is good

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Speaker 2: and moral for their position, which brings us to this

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Speaker 2: against CNN. This is Kwame Raul? Is it Raoul? Is

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Speaker 2: it Kwame Raoul? Or Kwame Raoul? R A O U L.

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Speaker 2: I would think that's Raoul, isn't it he is? This

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Speaker 2: is the Attorney General of Illinois, and he is being

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01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 2: asked the question. And you just mentioned this.

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Speaker 18: You said, you're not asking for ICE to get out

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01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 18: of the state. You are asking them to stop certain

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01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 18: tactics that they've been using. Just yesterday in Minnesota, a

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Speaker 18: federal judge declined to issue a temporary restraining order to

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Speaker 18: stop ICE operations in Minnesota. As that case goes through

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Speaker 18: the court, can you give us some sense of how

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Speaker 18: your case is different. Do you see Minnesota as a

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Speaker 18: case that's actually trying to get ice to leave the state,

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Speaker 18: and your case is not.

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Speaker 19: Well, there's a more intense situation on the ground in

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Speaker 19: Minnesota right now. There's been a surge in Minnesota, and

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01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 19: that's why my colleague ag Ellison went in requesting a

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Speaker 19: temporary restraining.

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01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,480
Speaker 2: Order and we did not. We are prepared.

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01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 19: To fully litigate this case and engage in discovery.

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01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 2: And so facts.

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Speaker 19: While there are similar facts on the ground in the

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01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 19: Minnesota and California and other jurisdictions that have been politically

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Speaker 19: targeted by this administration, there are differences as well, and

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Speaker 19: with regards to intensity.

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Speaker 3: One of the things I've wanted, ho ho ho ho ho.

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01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 2: Politically targeted by this administration.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you missed that. Let's go back just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: He's discussing why Illinois SEES is engaged differently legally than Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: But let's go back real quick.

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Speaker 19: Fully litigate this case and engage in discovery and.

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01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 2: So facts.

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Speaker 19: While there are similar facts on the ground in the

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01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 19: Minnesota and California and other jurisdictions that have been politically

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01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 19: targeted by this.

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01:18:54,720 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 2: Administration, Minnesota, California, Illinois politically targeted by this administration. Oh,

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01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: so you're saying that ICE is only going to blue

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01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 2: states and they're going after Democrats. Oh, are we not

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01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 2: going to admit that these are places that have called

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01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 2: themselves sanctuary cities and sanctuary states and have taken glee

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01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 2: at basically slaughing at the law and allowing ilegal immigrants

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Speaker 2: into their states and providing them I'm told billions of

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01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 2: dollars worth the benefits on the taxpayer dime. It is.

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Speaker 2: It's targeting when you're the ones violating the law.

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01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 3: If I rob Banks and I get arrested, am I.

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01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 2: Being targeted because of the color of my skin, or

1243
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 2: of my politics or my religion? Or am I getting

1244
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 2: targeted because I'm the guy who broke the law and

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01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 2: was rob Banks?

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Speaker 3: This is exactly the problem.

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01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:11,759
Speaker 2: They believe that we won't notice that they're full of crap,

1248
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 2: but they speak to their audience like their audience are fools,

1249
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 2: and their audience buys into it, which will prove them right.

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01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 2: There's a lot of hate in this statement. Let's go

1251
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 2: back again.

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01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 19: Listen, fully litigate this case and engage in discovery and

1253
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:38,759
Speaker 19: so facts. While there are similar facts on the ground

1254
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 19: in Minnesota and California and other jurisdictions that have been

1255
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 19: politically targeted by this administration. There are differences as well,

1256
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 19: and with regards to intensity. One of the things I

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01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 19: want to add is the notion of border patrol being

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01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 19: engaging in immigration enforcement in the interior. Congress is set

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01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 19: out for border patrol to do their work on the border.

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Speaker 2: Now we can discuss where border patrol should be and

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01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:12,839
Speaker 2: whether or not border patrol can be assigned to other places.

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01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 2: But what a thing to say and an audience to

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01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 2: accept that Blue states are politically targeted by the Trump administration.

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01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 2: The Blue states have said, we're not going to listen

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01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 2: to the law. We're going to protect the legal immigrants.

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01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: We're not going to work with immigrations and customs offorcement.

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01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 2: We are going to try and thwart federal agencies and

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01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 2: federal officials. And when our people engage in violence against them,

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Speaker 2: we're going to have police stand down. All right. We're

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01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 2: not gonna do it official. We're gonna do with a

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01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 2: wink in a nod. We're going to run and hide

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01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 2: so these rids can go about engaging in destruction. Because

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01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 2: we want to look at the destruction and say, look

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01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 2: what Donald Trump did to our beautiful city and then

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01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 2: fake tears all that jazz. Only a fool would say, man,

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01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 2: Trump's really going after those Blue states and not say,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's the blue states that are harboring people

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Speaker 2: here here legally.

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Speaker 3: It's the blue states that are thwarting the rule of law.

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Speaker 2: It's the blue states that don't see America the way

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01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 2: we see America, because they don't even see America. They

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01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 2: see this awful, violence, colonialist place that needs to be destroyed.

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01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 3: That's who they are.

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01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 2: There's a real difference in us and them, a true,

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01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 2: true difference between us and them. That's the story that

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01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 2: what they are putting forward.

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01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,799
Speaker 3: They know is false. They know they're lying.

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01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 2: And the idea that this that these images are bad

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01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 2: for Trump not in the slightest.

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Speaker 3: That's not real.

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01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 2: Right, It's like that woman on the plane, that mother

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01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 2: blanker is not real. That commentary is not true, that

1293
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:12,679
Speaker 2: story is not real.

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01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 3: Taking illlegal immigrants off the streets.

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Speaker 2: That's what eighty million Americans voted for, and it's happening.

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01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 2: And who's getting in their way Democrats, pathetic liberal white women. Yeah,

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01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 2: that doesn't play bad for Trump. That plays bad for Democrats. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you say to me, do people like the idea

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Speaker 2: of a police statement? No, no, they don't, and they will,

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Speaker 2: in a type of reflex maneuver, say what is the

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Speaker 2: government doing? Which is why how the media plays these

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01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 2: things is so important. I shoot another man in Minneapolis.

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01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 2: That isn't what happened. That's how media tells the story

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01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 2: so they can get that kind of immediate reaction and

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01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 2: then hopefully gain voters. You do not hate the mainstream

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01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 2: media enough because you failed to understand how much the

1307
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: mainstream media hates you constantly constantly lying to their audience

1308
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,440
Speaker 2: in hopes that they will just buy in or reflexively

1309
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 2: react the way the left wants them to. Once you

1310
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 2: pull back the curtain, you realize how ugly these people

1311
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 2: are and what fraudsterures they are. America wants safety and

1312
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 2: security and we're utilizing the law to do so, and

1313
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 2: the progressive left is violating the law and engaging in violence.

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01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 2: If you want to bet on how that works in

1315
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 2: the midterms, I say, Okay, place your bet. I think

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01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 2: it works out well for the Republicans. More the point,

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01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 2: I don't think it works out well for the Democrats.

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01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz cats today. So I saw this post

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01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 2: from xxxy Athletics. They make athletic war for men and

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01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 2: for women. I think it's mostly for women. It's to

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01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 2: make the point that there's a difference between the two.

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01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 2: And the post was doctor doesn't know if men can

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Speaker 2: get pregnant. That's where we're at. Oh oh, that's where

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01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 2: we've been. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. Good to be here,

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01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 2: Good to be with. You find everything at Tony kats

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01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 2: dot com if you would. This was the absolute just

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01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 2: it was pure wreckage that Senator Josh Holly just delivered

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01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 2: upon this doctor nische Verma, boy board certified obgyn. She's

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01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 2: there as a witness for the Democrats. It was a

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Speaker 2: hearing from the Committee on Health, Education and Labor and Pensions. Okay,

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01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 2: and it was a hearing on the dangerous post by

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Speaker 2: chemical abortion drugs.

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Speaker 3: That's something else. And it started with.

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Speaker 2: I think it started with this thing from Senator Moody,

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01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 2: who is the former Age of Florida, where she asks

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01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 2: can men get pregnant? And this doctor, this doctor nische Verma,

1337
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:28,679
Speaker 2: is like, oh, I actually have audio. Oh, I've got it,

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01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 2: I've got it. I don't always have it, but I

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01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 2: have it here. This is uh, this is actual audio

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01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 2: of how it is that this doctor responded to Senator

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01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:49,919
Speaker 2: Moody saying can men get pregnant? She was very confused,

1342
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 2: very very very confused, which is super weird because it's

1343
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 2: not a confusing question can men get pregnant? In The

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01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 2: answer is no.

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01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 3: We all know this, We're all fully aware that the

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Speaker 3: answer is no.

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01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:08,560
Speaker 2: But when you are wrapped up in the leftist progressive politics,

1348
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 2: when you have to sow delude the mind, when you

1349
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 2: have to purposely dumb yourself down, when you buy into

1350
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 2: the trans insanity, when you're desperate to achieve the goal,

1351
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 2: which is the breakdown of society, the breakdown in Western civilization,

1352
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 2: which is what Marxism is all about. It is meant

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01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 2: to confuse, It is meant to deceive, It is meant

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01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 2: to engage in the deviance of the mind. That's what

1355
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 2: it does. Well, this is what you get. Doctors. By

1356
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 2: the way, do we have any idea how bad medicine

1357
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 2: is right now? And how much danger we all are

1358
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 2: The amount of non professionals that have been put into

1359
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 2: the medical field. It is frightening, be very very careful

1360
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 2: when you go see any new doctor or a hospital,

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01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 2: ask questions, add advocate for your family members. Don't just

1362
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 2: let people who you know are not capable engage with

1363
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 2: you or your family's health. Oh. I do that absolutely, absolutely.

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01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 2: On a personal level. I've seen enough doctors posting about

1365
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 2: how they hate Israel and they'll just let Jews die

1366
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 2: that I do check people's social media. You think I'm

1367
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 2: gonna let you put your hands on my kids, on

1368
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 2: my wife, Oh, there will be a vetting. I used

1369
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 2: to be able to trust Y'all those days are gone.

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01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 2: Senator Hawley then steps up to the mic and he's like,

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01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 2: I don't think you understood Senator Moody's question there. Let

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01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 2: me let's go back over this.

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Speaker 20: Thank you, mister Sherman. Since you bring it up, why

1374
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 20: don't we just start there. Doctor Verma wasn't sure I

1375
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 20: understood your answer to Senator Moody A moment ago.

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Speaker 6: Do you think that men can get pregnant?

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01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,520
Speaker 21: I hesitated there because I wasn't sure where the conversation

1378
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 21: was going or what the goal was. I mean, I

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01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 21: do take care of patients with different identities. I take

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Speaker 21: care of many women. I take care of people with

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Speaker 21: different identities, and so that's where I paused.

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01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 6: I think I wasn't sure where you were going with that. Well,

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01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 6: the goal is is the truth? So can men get pregnant?

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01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 2: Again?

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01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 21: The reason I pause there is I'm not really sure what.

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01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 2: The goal of the question.

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Speaker 6: Goal is to establish a biological reality.

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01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 20: And you just said a moment ago that science and

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01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 20: evidence should control, not politics.

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Speaker 6: So let's just test that proposition. Can men get pregnant?

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01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 6: I take care of people with many identities.

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Speaker 2: At that moment, your head has exploded, and I want

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01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:45,759
Speaker 2: to apologize. I should have given more warning. I should

1394
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 2: have given better warning to what it was you were

1395
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:52,799
Speaker 2: about to hear. This goes on for another two minutes.

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Speaker 6: But can men get pregnant?

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01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 21: Many women that can get pregnant? I do take care

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01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 21: of people that don't identify as men.

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01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 6: That can can men get pregnant?

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01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 8: Again?

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01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 21: As I'm saying, let me let.

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01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 20: Me just remind you you testified to a moment ago

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01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 20: science and evidence should control, not politics. So should can

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01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 20: men get pregnant?

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01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,480
Speaker 21: You're a doctor, see science and evidence should guide medicine.

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01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 6: I do science that evidence tell us that men can

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01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,639
Speaker 6: get pregnant. Biological men, can they get pregnant?

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01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 21: I also think yes no questions like this are a

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01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 21: political tool, and.

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Speaker 6: No, yes, no questions are about the truth. Doctor.

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Speaker 20: Let's not make a mockery of this proceeding. This is

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01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 20: about science and evidence. I'm asking you. You know, the

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01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 20: United States Supreme Court just heard arguments yesterday at great

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01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 20: lengths on this question. This is not a hypothetical question.

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01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 20: This is not theoretical that affects real people in their

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01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 20: real lives. And you're here as an expert, called by

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01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 20: the other side as an expert, and you've been telling

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01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 20: us that you that you follow right. You're a doctor,

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01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,600
Speaker 20: and you follow the science and the evidence. So I

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01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 20: just want to know, based on the science, can men

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01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 20: get pregnant?

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01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 6: That's a yes or no question, it really is.

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01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 21: I think I think you're trying to reduce the complexity

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01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 21: of a lot.

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01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 6: I'm not.

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01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 2: I'm trying to Would you let that woman be your doctor? Yes?

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01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 2: Or no? And once you realize the answer is no,

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01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 2: you realize exactly how this leftist propaganda endangers us all.

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01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:26,520
Speaker 3: It's absolute danger. Be sure to interview.

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01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:28,639
Speaker 2: Your doctor before you let them take care of your family.

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01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:35,839
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Kats it's Tony Katz today. So while I

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01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 2: am here to tell you that I don't think the

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01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 2: White House is in any way, shape or form losing

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01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 2: a perception battle on Minneapolis, it seems that the White

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01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 2: House wants to make sure that they're not losing a

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01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 2: perception battle on Minneapolis. So really about I said, what

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01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 2: it is that we're seeing Tony Katz, Tony Katz today.

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01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:57,639
Speaker 2: Good to be here, Good to be with you. What

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01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:02,600
Speaker 2: I do like is the proaction here now I have

1440
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 2: not gotten detailed as of yet. Maybe I should now

1441
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 2: about how I think this is going, where I think

1442
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 2: America needs to be on this, and my take on

1443
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 2: the push of ice into cities and states. So allow

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01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 2: me just to start with a baseline, the border and

1445
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 2: its security. I voted for that, the removal of people

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01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,639
Speaker 2: in the country illegally. I voted for that. I don't

1447
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:36,919
Speaker 2: apologize to anyone for recognizing that the Biden administration worked,

1448
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 2: worked aggressively to try and have the country overrun. I

1449
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 2: said it, I meant it. I apologize for nothing as

1450
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 2: a matter of principle, As a matter of policy, they

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01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 2: worked over time in that administration, that is Biden, that

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01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 2: is Harris, that is the then Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Maorcis.

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01:32:58,479 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 3: That is the entire.

1454
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 2: Team getting cover from the White House by Jensaki and

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01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 2: Karring Jean Pierre. They worked aggressively to hurt the nation,

1456
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 2: to allow in anyone, whether that's fear of their left

1457
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 2: wing base or a real desire to bring in more

1458
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 2: voters thinking they could roll Republicans on the subject, whatever

1459
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 2: the case may be. Some of course did it because

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01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 2: they want to see the system break. It's a very

1461
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 2: Cloward Piven kind of moment. If you know that strategy there,

1462
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:35,759
Speaker 2: that that idea of Cloward Piven. You know, overwhelming systems

1463
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:41,480
Speaker 2: and overwhelming institutions. Remember, our our nation works amazingly, amazingly

1464
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 2: well when it works, but it hangs on by by

1465
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 2: a thread. It's all very delicate and it is predicated

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01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 2: on people believing the same thing. This is why I

1467
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 2: when when people talk about counter insurgency, for example, and

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01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 2: when we talk about war and trying to win over

1469
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 2: hearts and minds. That couldnot be done with people of

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01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 2: an ideology that is not like yours. If they are

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01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 2: not a Western civilization focused group, you can't win overhearts

1472
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 2: and minds.

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01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,799
Speaker 3: It just simply can't be done. It cannot happen.

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01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 2: And so when we talk about things that took place

1475
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 2: in the last thirty years, whether we're talking about arac orhey,

1476
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 2: we're talking about Afghanistan, the miss here is that we

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01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 2: aren't dealing with people who see the world the way

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01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 2: we do. Right, they may be our enemy because they're

1479
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 2: trying to get domination or we're trying to be left alone,

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01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 2: or however you want to see it, but they have

1481
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 2: a certain if you will, ethic that you can at

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01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 2: least find some connectivity to. When you don't have that,

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01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 2: you can't win over hearts and minds, You can't get

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01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 2: people to come onto your side. They fundamentally don't see

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01:34:56,200 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 2: the world the way you do. They don't so those

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01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 2: I never thought that.

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01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:05,719
Speaker 3: Those types of warfare worked.

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01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 2: When you see the people who want to destroy the country,

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01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:10,760
Speaker 2: they just don't see it the way we do. They

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01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 2: not like us. They're not Americans like we are. I

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01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 2: argue that they're not Americans at all. That they may

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01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 2: have the rights of the Constitution, that's where it ends disgusting.

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01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 2: People have rights too, but they have to be American

1494
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 2: citizens to have rights. But do they care about America. No,

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01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:30,639
Speaker 2: do they want American destroy That's quite obvious. And what

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01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 2: eighty million people voted for was not to destroy America,

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01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 2: was to have a strong and secure border and remove

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01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 2: people are here illegally because they shouldn't be here.

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01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 3: And that's the ballgame, just that simple.

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01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:50,839
Speaker 2: I favor the moves from Ice to go and find

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01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 2: the people who are here illegally, who are being hid

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01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 2: by other cities, other states, other folks, and remove them.

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01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:03,599
Speaker 2: I don't as much favor the National Guard deployments because that,

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01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 2: to me, is the more political move. The ICE movements

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01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 2: and the deportations is the rational move.

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01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 3: So there's an example of just a variation.

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01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 2: I have argued that state should be like, hey, come

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01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:22,760
Speaker 2: to my city and we don't need this, this and this,

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01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:25,759
Speaker 2: but let's do these other two things. I'll take the help,

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01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 2: I'll take those federal dollars, let's go to work. Seems

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01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 2: to me that's how you handle the thing. And I

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01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 2: said that here on the show. What we're seeing in

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01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:38,520
Speaker 2: Minneapolis and other places, these are people who are anti American.

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01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 2: They're engaged in full on attacks in support of the

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01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:46,759
Speaker 2: destruction of the nation. They aren't good, kind and decent people.

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01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 2: Does this mean I approve of every tactic of ice, Well,

1517
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 2: you'd have to show me every tactic. I'm willing to

1518
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 2: bet you I will find one or three that I

1519
01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:01,759
Speaker 2: disagree with. And there's for a moment where I favor

1520
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 2: the abuse of the American citizen. The citizen always comes first,

1521
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 2: and if that makes law enforcement's job tougher, that's too bad.

1522
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 2: If it's too tough, there's always dairy queen. What's the

1523
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 2: worst that can happen. You gotta you gotta clean up

1524
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 2: when the uh, when the chocolate doesn't stick on the

1525
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 2: on the dipped cone, which sounds delicious, by the way.

1526
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 2: And I don't want to dismiss the people who are

1527
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 2: dairy queen. You work, you deserve respect, and you've got mine.

1528
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 2: My point is is that you can replace dairy queen

1529
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 2: with any place.

1530
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 3: If the job of.

1531
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 2: Law enforcement is too tough, well that's too bad. If

1532
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 2: you think the American citizen should be diminished in any

1533
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 2: way so you could do your job, the answer is no.

1534
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 2: But I'm not dealing with American citizens. I'm dealing with

1535
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 2: getting out people who are here legally. And when American

1536
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 2: citizens think they can violate the law, engage in violence,

1537
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 2: as if somehow they have been touched by the Lord

1538
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 2: with this right to do so, the secret knowledge to

1539
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 2: know good for meable they don't. And you think you

1540
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 2: can engage in attacks, block traffic, engage in violence. No, No,

1541
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 2: you are a problem at that moment, and you're keeping

1542
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 2: the rest of us from a better life and a

1543
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 2: safer society.

1544
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 3: You're wrong.

1545
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 2: We've got the law on our side, and we voted

1546
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 2: for a commander in chief, a chief executive who will

1547
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:27,720
Speaker 2: actually make sure those laws are implemented. I hope I've

1548
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 2: now shared my position on the subject. There's always a

1549
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:34,559
Speaker 2: moment where you could say, Nope, Ice is wrong in

1550
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 2: this case, absolutely, And I don't mind investigations. Look, I

1551
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 2: know I want an investigation. I want it into the

1552
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 2: shooting of Rene Good. I saw the videos, I know

1553
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 2: what she did. I still want an investigation. I've made

1554
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 2: my point clear. The White House, I think should know

1555
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 2: that the people who voted for Trump by and large

1556
01:38:57,560 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 2: are with me. As I have said it now, some

1557
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 2: people might be far more fervent, some people might be

1558
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 2: a touch more. I think we gotta be a little

1559
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 2: nicer about this. So I think we've got to change

1560
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 2: this a little, but conceptually the idea that let's call it,

1561
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 2: eighty million people, even though it was near eighty million

1562
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 2: people voted for President Trump. It's not like half of

1563
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 2: them are like, I can't believe he's doing this. That

1564
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 2: is not it, that is not it. I've got data

1565
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 2: that shows you that his popularity is doing better than

1566
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,599
Speaker 2: other presidents at this time. And of course different poles

1567
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 2: can give you different things. Use a pull what it will.

1568
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 2: Let's just use our eyes. America ain't angry. Some people

1569
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 2: may have some questions, but how dare these leftists support

1570
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:49,440
Speaker 2: illegal immigrants over American citizens? How dare they support violence

1571
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 2: against our institutions? How dare they engage further destruction in

1572
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 2: trying to ruin America? The answer is no, we won't

1573
01:39:57,760 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 2: put up with it.

1574
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 3: White House seems to want to make sure that they're

1575
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 3: getting ahead of these things.

1576
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:06,719
Speaker 2: Do you know why they called Renee good A domestic

1577
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:10,839
Speaker 2: terrorists right from the word go. It's that they wanted

1578
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 2: to be able to have their narrative too. They knew

1579
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 2: that the media would immediately say, oh, those ice are murderers,

1580
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 2: and look how they murdered this woman in murder murder

1581
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:23,439
Speaker 2: murder without engaging the facts. We know that they do

1582
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 2: this all the time, So they started with domestic terrorists

1583
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:29,760
Speaker 2: to set a standard. Oh wait, wait, domestic terrorists was

1584
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 2: a terrorist and it goes from there. It's actually a

1585
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 2: rather good counter even if you were to disagree with

1586
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 2: the terminology. It was the White House going proactive, and

1587
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 2: that's what I thought it was when I saw Christy

1588
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 2: Nome speaking at the White House. She's there on the

1589
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 2: driveway there pebble beach is what they call it, and

1590
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 2: she's answering questions from the press.

1591
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 14: Here's what's if I cared, perhaps to follow up, why

1592
01:40:57,280 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 14: are we seeing Americans being asked on the street provide

1593
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 14: proof of citizenship in Minnesota?

1594
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 2: Is that targeted enforcement?

1595
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:04,600
Speaker 1: And are you.

1596
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 14: Advising Americans to carry proof of citizenship.

1597
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,720
Speaker 22: In every situation we're doing targeted enforcement. If we are

1598
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:14,040
Speaker 22: on a target and doing an operation, there may be

1599
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 22: individuals surrounding that criminal that we may be asking who

1600
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 22: they are and why they're there and having them validate

1601
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 22: their identity. That's what we've always done in asking people

1602
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 22: who they are so that we know who's in those

1603
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 22: surroundings and if they are breaking our federal laws. We

1604
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:30,599
Speaker 22: will detain them as well until we run that processing.

1605
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 2: Is the Secretary saying that Americans need to walk around

1606
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:40,600
Speaker 2: with proof of citizenship because I would object to the

1607
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 2: idea that I live in a society that says, of

1608
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 2: the American citizen papers please, And she's threading a needle

1609
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 2: there saying, if you are engaged in the protection of

1610
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 2: illegal immigrants, fighting immigrations and customs enforcement, you might be

1611
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 2: asked where you're from. You might be asked are you

1612
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:12,880
Speaker 2: in the country lawfully? Now, this goes back to oh god, Arizona, really,

1613
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 2: how I got my political start, how I got my

1614
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 2: radio start?

1615
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 3: SB ten seventy, the Arizona immigration law. This goes back to.

1616
01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 2: Twenty ten, twenty eleven, where the law said, in any

1617
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 2: lawful stop, detention, or arrest, law enforcement can ask if

1618
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:29,679
Speaker 2: you're in the country legally. Oh that created great upheaval,

1619
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:32,559
Speaker 2: in great fight, and yet it was it was upheld

1620
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 2: at the time. She is not saying you, as a

1621
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 2: citizen walking down the street, a cop can come up

1622
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 2: to you and say, show me your papers. I don't

1623
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:46,680
Speaker 2: buy into that she's talking about in the moment, in

1624
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 2: the instances where ice is engaged and you the alleged

1625
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 2: American are engaged in fighting ICE, and we have to

1626
01:42:57,479 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 2: hold her to that one.

1627
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 3: One thousand percent to be.

1628
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 2: And even then I get by some people be like, wellho,

1629
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 2: what do you improve You're a citizen. That's That's not

1630
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 2: how we do things in America. I think that they're

1631
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 2: talking about the targeted instance where ICE knows their target

1632
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 2: and here are these people engaged in attacks. We do

1633
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 2: have to make sure that we're being very very clear

1634
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 2: about what we're talking about, because that absolutely and I

1635
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 2: agree with you can ride a razor's edge. Well, in

1636
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 2: order to keep everybody safe, everybody has to have this

1637
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 2: or have to have that, or I already have a

1638
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 2: driver's license, and no, I don't have to have a

1639
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 2: driver's license. I get it. But what kind of thing

1640
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 2: is that to an American? To carry papers? Absolutely positively not.

1641
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 2: Then she was asked about President Trump.

1642
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 6: Do you think that there needs to be an insurrection

1643
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 6: active hoop?

1644
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 11: Oh.

1645
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 22: I think that the president has that opportunity in the future,

1646
01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 22: hits his constitutional right, and it's up to him if

1647
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 22: you want to utilize right to do it.

1648
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 2: I don't know the Insurrection Act we're going to eighteen

1649
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 2: oh seven would empower the president to deploy the military

1650
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 2: federalized National Guard to suppress insurrections in forced federal laws

1651
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:20,760
Speaker 2: protecting constitutional rights. And the President said this, if the

1652
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 2: corrupt politicians of Minnesota don't obey the law and stop

1653
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 2: the professional agitators and insurrectionists from attacking the patriots of

1654
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 2: Ice who are only trying to do their job, I

1655
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 2: will institute the Insurrection Act. Yeah, that got some people's attention.

1656
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:41,720
Speaker 2: That cuts some people's attention. What I appreciate about it

1657
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 2: is that it is it is indeed the left that

1658
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 2: is acting insurrectiony. They're the ones doing this, They're the

1659
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 2: ones engaged in the violence. He wrote, I will insuite

1660
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 2: the Insurrection Act, which any presidents have done before me,

1661
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 2: and quickly put an end to the travesy that's taking

1662
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 2: place in that once great state. Thank you for your

1663
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:12,000
Speaker 2: attention to this matter. It's always that President DJT. I

1664
01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 2: think it's going to rub a lot of people, and

1665
01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:19,760
Speaker 2: we can't engage in protest. This isn't protest. This isn't protest.

1666
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:26,920
Speaker 2: And then christinom starts engaging the political to send out

1667
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 2: a message of how people should be responding to this.

1668
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:32,400
Speaker 22: You know, the officers that we have out there are

1669
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 22: very highly trained and skilled specific for the operations that

1670
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 22: they're doing. They're utilizing the most gifted individuals on these

1671
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 22: operations to go out and to do enforcement because many times,

1672
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 22: if they're going after murderers, they're going after professionals and

1673
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:50,120
Speaker 22: gangs and terrorists that are here in our country illegally.

1674
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:52,559
Speaker 22: And I'll remind you the only reason we're in this

1675
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 22: situation is because the Biden administration allowed twenty million people

1676
01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 22: to come into this country unvetted.

1677
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:03,680
Speaker 2: That's the message. That's the message, and I think that

1678
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 2: message connects with a lot of voters and connects for

1679
01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:09,599
Speaker 2: the midterms. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats Today.

1680
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,960
Speaker 2: The story grossed me out about Greg Biffle. So this

1681
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 2: is the NASCAR driver who recently was killed in a

1682
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 2: plane crash. He was flying with his family members a

1683
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 2: private plane and their plane crash. Everyone died. Awful story,

1684
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today, Good to be with you. Well,

1685
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 2: the follow up to the story, like a month later,

1686
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 2: there was a break in in their house. I guess

1687
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 2: somebody was like, well they're gone. I guess I could

1688
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 2: take what I want stole thirty thousand dollars in a backpack.

1689
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:49,760
Speaker 2: I guess to put the money in. I don't know

1690
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 2: why that story horrifies me as much as it does.

1691
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 2: Homes get broken into, money get stolen, but it's the

1692
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 2: idea of ooh, they're dead in this terrible tragedy.

1693
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:04,799
Speaker 3: I bet you there's some sweet cash laying around.

1694
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 2: I don't have the capacity to think like that, and

1695
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm there aren't too many things that make me just

1696
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 2: stop and say there's really something wrong with people. But

1697
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 2: there really is. But the truth is, there's really something

1698
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 2: wrong with certain people. You're stealing from a family that

1699
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 2: was killed, and well, no one will miss it. We'll

1700
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:32,320
Speaker 2: just take it from me a state. And it's just

1701
01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 2: so gross, gross, gross story. I'll have that on the show.

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