Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of The Frame Second Podcast. I'm
Speaker 2: your host for the evening. MY name is Mike. Next
Speaker 2: to me, I have Rod next to me, I have Spike.
Speaker 2: Next Spike, I have Ken and we are talking about
Speaker 2: the movie Weapons and this is the newest movie from
Speaker 2: Zach Kraiger.
Speaker 1: One thing I didn't realize is, uh, this is the
Speaker 1: same guy that did Barbarian. So we're never seen. I
Speaker 1: haven't you told me not to see it? I thought,
Speaker 1: I remember telling you not to see it. I thought
Speaker 1: she said, don't don't bother. No, that wasn't me. That
Speaker 1: wasn't me. If it was me, I don't know why
Speaker 1: I would have told you that I really liked Barbarian.
Speaker 1: I wanted to watch of course, No, no, not, of
Speaker 1: course I didn't want to watch it. I thought, you
Speaker 1: don't like order. That's why I said that. I mean,
Speaker 1: but you Ken said it say what? Oh no, that's
Speaker 1: why he just said what He just said.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've watched Barbarian.
Speaker 1: But no, I mean I mean that that was around
Speaker 1: the whole time I was watching, like like all that stuff.
Speaker 2: You know what, Rod, I may have said that now
Speaker 2: that I'm thinking about it because I didn't like Barbarian
Speaker 2: on the first watch. Okay, so I might have if
Speaker 2: I had just watched it, that might have been me
Speaker 2: that it don't bother. It took me another viewing before
Speaker 2: I really liked it because I didn't realize there was
Speaker 2: one of those message movies. So when I watched it
Speaker 2: the first time, I was like, this was stupid. But
Speaker 2: then when I understood what they were doing and I
Speaker 2: watched it again, I was like, oh, I get it now,
Speaker 2: so you know what that that that may have been me,
Speaker 2: So I apologize, but yeah, go ahead and check out Barbarian.
Speaker 2: But did you like Weapons?
Speaker 1: I did? I did like Weapons. I hadn't. I don't
Speaker 1: think I had seen any previews of it, and if
Speaker 1: I did, it was a very short one or something
Speaker 1: like I just remember like the whole kids with the
Speaker 1: ORMs out type shit. But the previously the good job
Speaker 1: of not review ship it did a really good that's good.
Speaker 1: So yeah, nah, but I enjoyed it. Man. It was
Speaker 1: it was. It was like like a mystery horror type
Speaker 1: type situation. So now I was for it. What about you, Spike?
Speaker 1: I was really excited about this. Seeing one preview didn't
Speaker 1: dive into seeing another one because I wanted to ruin it.
Speaker 1: But the guy you had me. I enjoyed it up
Speaker 1: until the end because I didn't see Barbrarians and I
Speaker 1: ain't realize he tries to add humor here into his
Speaker 1: movies and things like that. He comes from comedy apparently. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and because I did a little reading afterwards, so I
Speaker 1: was locked in until that last scene. You know. I
Speaker 1: didn't like the climax, but I liked the movie. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. We're gonna let that go. I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: it go. Man, be the mature one. Are you being mature? Yes?
Speaker 1: Let it go? Yep. No, I didn't even think about it.
Speaker 1: I don't even get.
Speaker 4: You can't even happen automatic.
Speaker 1: That's you. I'm the fucking with you either. You like
Speaker 1: this movie? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah I did. I did.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it, Yeah yeah, yeah yeah I did.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, Yes, I absolutely loved this movie
Speaker 2: start to finish. I like this more than Barbarian, and
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed Barbarians.
Speaker 1: So this is one of those few films that happens
Speaker 1: where I sit down, I'm like, all right, I have
Speaker 1: no idea, what's about to happen, and I'm locked in
Speaker 1: for the whole two hours, and not a moment went
Speaker 1: by where I was like, this is this is dull?
Speaker 1: Where this is stupid? The whole time I'm laughing at
Speaker 1: the humor. Man, I did a good job with that.
Speaker 1: It did just at the very really because it wasn't overdone.
Speaker 1: It was it was very subtle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, all right, I guess we'll get in to
Speaker 2: the parts that Spike didn't like, but that's probably later.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it starts with the little girl saying that
Speaker 2: this is a true story. A lot of people died
Speaker 2: and it was covered up.
Speaker 1: Even that was great, like having her narrated at the beginning.
Speaker 1: I did we ever see her in the movie? Thanks?
Speaker 1: I didn't think so either. Yeah, that was really good,
Speaker 1: so I thought that was mainly interesting and stuff. So yep.
Speaker 1: Then the movie moves on to Maybrook Elementary School.
Speaker 2: We meet Justine Candy played by Julia Garner, and we
Speaker 2: find out that none of the students in her class
Speaker 2: showed up except for one kid named Alex. All the
Speaker 2: kids left at two seventeen am. So did y'all like
Speaker 2: the sequence showing how the kids were running out of
Speaker 2: the house.
Speaker 1: That was great. Yeah, yeah, I love seeing even that
Speaker 1: was like it was creepy and just kind of like settling. Yeah, unsubdling,
Speaker 1: like especially having a kid, like oh man, that was
Speaker 1: that was wild. Man. You lucky I'm nowhere near your household,
Speaker 1: because I would one hundred percent like tell Dom to
Speaker 1: run like that at you one night unexpected. That would
Speaker 1: probably scared blog closed line. Oh my god, I would
Speaker 1: totally do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah the beginning, Yeah, definitely, because you know, as as
Speaker 3: a parent, you were like, what the funk would I
Speaker 3: do if I woke up and so my kids running
Speaker 3: out there all kind of crazy and ship, and my
Speaker 3: kids watch anime, so I'm like, what kind of y'all
Speaker 3: saying I have to run like anime?
Speaker 4: Y'all serious?
Speaker 1: But what's funny? Dumb does run like that? Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: the anime ship Yeah, yeah, anime ship Broy Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: they be doing that ship. Kenda will be doing that ship.
Speaker 3: Miles used to do that ship when Kend when he
Speaker 3: was younger, he used to be doing that ship. So
Speaker 3: he's motherfucker running all weird and ship brocu.
Speaker 1: It was on social media some father was like, why
Speaker 1: fuck you running like that? I think. I think it's
Speaker 1: because that's the that's the one we're getting sidetracked against
Speaker 1: this how much how my ship goes along?
Speaker 3: That was dope because when I was watching, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: they running They're not running out at the same time.
Speaker 1: They running out like one by one.
Speaker 3: It was like, so I thought that was dope, Like
Speaker 3: you'll see run take off and the show it and
Speaker 3: then hear them the other one and there, so I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, that's yeah.
Speaker 1: It was the same time, but it just they they
Speaker 1: did all run out at seventeen, which okay, I was, yeah,
Speaker 1: they tell you the first couple of yeah, but I
Speaker 1: thought they were like so they all just ran out.
Speaker 1: I was at the same time.
Speaker 3: I was like, she snapped it and then they got
Speaker 3: up and it just took some of them longer to
Speaker 3: get to the door to get out.
Speaker 2: It was they all left the house at exactly to seventeen.
Speaker 2: Because I was like, okay, what's happening at two seventeen?
Speaker 2: I figured it was like a Drake con sir, you know,
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, I was immediately again locked in. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what the fun kids?
Speaker 1: But my first thought was like what time period are
Speaker 1: we in? Because of the ring cameras and stuff. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: people will be able to see where the they went.
Speaker 1: With the ring cameras, you can only see so far,
Speaker 1: but if it's depending on each house, have them you
Speaker 1: can see what they end up. Always they go by, Yeah,
Speaker 1: are you talking about that other ring?
Speaker 2: They explained why that didn't work later, Remember when they
Speaker 2: were triangulating it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I was just saying, that's That's one
Speaker 1: of the thoughts I had when I saw Really I
Speaker 1: got when we get to explain it. I wasn't paying attention, Naha.
Speaker 1: I liked it, just the end was goofy.
Speaker 2: So after showing the cops interviewing Alex and hearing that
Speaker 2: he doesn't know what's happening, it shows us a school
Speaker 2: meeting and uh, this is when the little girl says,
Speaker 2: this is when the story really starts, and the first
Speaker 2: title shows up saying, Justine Spike, where did you think
Speaker 2: about what went down at the school meeting? I thought
Speaker 2: they were being a fetched that lady like she one.
Speaker 2: I thought they were being unfair to her because it's
Speaker 2: clearly I didn't think that she'd have anything to do
Speaker 2: with it. And to the introduction when somebody yelled it
Speaker 2: of which and then they the spray paint later introduced
Speaker 2: me to the idea, Okay, there must be a witch
Speaker 2: in the movie somewhere like they I think they subtly
Speaker 2: laid that out and did the perfect revealer when she
Speaker 2: popped on screen.
Speaker 1: So I liked this because of what it introduced. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: they were being unfair and irrational, but when you have kids,
Speaker 1: that's what I credited, Like, there's there, there's like what
Speaker 1: happened in that classroom. There's only one person that got
Speaker 1: to know some shit, That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 3: And her, she's the one that she's the common denominator
Speaker 3: in this whole thing. We don't know what, we don't
Speaker 3: know how you know, it don't even matter where the goddamn.
Speaker 1: Everything, Because I would think y'all are in the same
Speaker 1: I would think y'all would be crazy. If y'all tell me,
Speaker 1: are you the comment? I'm like, I just teach you
Speaker 1: what are y'all talking about? Nah, you gotta think about
Speaker 1: it like this, like like shit, they have your kid
Speaker 1: for most of the day, Like your kid goes to
Speaker 1: school from that morning to that afternoon. They see they
Speaker 1: see your kid more than you do. So it's like
Speaker 1: what the fuck, Like, like, how the fuck you don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on? Like like it's like you you know,
Speaker 1: you you something happened in the class. So when that guy,
Speaker 1: when the guy was asking like, no, what the fuck
Speaker 1: does she know? I was like I was him before
Speaker 1: he even started saying it. So if there was a
Speaker 1: school shooting, and the school shooting happened and it took
Speaker 1: out most of the people but only in her class,
Speaker 1: would you have the same stance. If it took out
Speaker 1: most of the people but only in her class.
Speaker 2: Would you be like, well, this is your fault. You're
Speaker 2: the common denominator. You have something to do with this.
Speaker 2: I still would be questioning.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why why they coming from your class? It's
Speaker 1: somebody that you know, somebody that you fucking interested, Like
Speaker 1: like yeah, I don't know, Like I just feel like
Speaker 1: I still got questions for that particular teacher.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna circle back to that later. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's an interesting stance.
Speaker 4: Yeah I wouldn't necessarily, but I think that's that's.
Speaker 1: Different.
Speaker 3: But there something happened in the classroom to cause that
Speaker 3: to happen, And what were you doing as a teacher
Speaker 3: to either to not regulate the class behavior. But either way,
Speaker 3: while it's I understood their reaction, kind of My my
Speaker 3: thing was it was like, well, they ran from your
Speaker 3: fucking house, you know, but you're you're not thinking about that.
Speaker 1: It's like all the kids ran from the house at
Speaker 1: the same time. So I guess what I'm saying is like,
Speaker 1: they're in my care when it happened. And that's the
Speaker 1: part I thought the parents were missing, Like, nah, you
Speaker 1: had you know, you have to have a whole some
Speaker 1: sort of responsible.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but still it all all of
Speaker 3: us experienced the same thing, and she's the only one
Speaker 3: that that's.
Speaker 2: Just common here, not really because Alex didn't nothing happened
Speaker 2: to him, but the parents weren't freaking out on.
Speaker 1: Him like that.
Speaker 2: I think this is interesting, and especially the fact that
Speaker 2: y'all are backing up the mentality, I think it's really
Speaker 2: really well, well, they were trying, thought they were trying to
Speaker 2: question the kids.
Speaker 1: The cops did Alex, what do you know exactly? And like,
Speaker 1: like you said, kid, like y'all were at home. This
Speaker 1: wasn't in my classroom, right, It's just weird that it
Speaker 1: was her classroom. That like the old but I know
Speaker 1: it's not her fault. But I understood the rationale behind
Speaker 1: the parents though that that's what I think. That's the
Speaker 1: part that I guess we're saying, I have a parcive Yah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I get, I totally get while they acted like that.
Speaker 1: Even when they were acting that way, I was like,
Speaker 1: but y'all, they were asleep in your at your house,
Speaker 1: in your bed. But I understand them saying that. But
Speaker 1: all of the kids in her room were the ones
Speaker 1: that are missing, and I so and not and trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what is her involvement in is disappearance?
Speaker 1: I knew it wasn't. I know, we got to move on.
Speaker 1: But like to me, that that gave that she didn't
Speaker 1: have much involvement because because they put so much focus
Speaker 1: on it, but she was acting weird.
Speaker 2: Though Yeah, I never got her acting weird. And I
Speaker 2: thought immediately that the parents were being completely irrational and
Speaker 2: not taking responsibility for your own fucking kids.
Speaker 1: So I found that part to be very interesting. But again,
Speaker 1: well we're gonna we're gonna circle back to that later.
Speaker 1: And parents never rarely sometimes they rarely do. That's the point,
Speaker 1: that is absolute point but yes, after being harassed while
Speaker 1: at the liquor store and as well as her home,
Speaker 1: like Spike mentioned, she comes out and finds the word
Speaker 1: which written on her car, and then she is put
Speaker 1: on probation by her boss, Marcus, who's played by I
Speaker 1: don't remember his real Benedict Wong, Yeah, because his name
Speaker 1: is Wong in Marvel.
Speaker 2: Just out of just real quick, did anybody get any
Speaker 2: sketchy byes from her? Because if you remember what Wong
Speaker 2: was asking her about her behaving inappropriately, did any of
Speaker 2: that stick.
Speaker 1: I think they did a good job of explaining why
Speaker 1: they would suspect her if people knew her background like
Speaker 1: their father did, like if he did his research and
Speaker 1: know that she took a child home. Like that scene
Speaker 1: was really good in saying, oh, okay, this is why.
Speaker 1: But no, I didn't suspect her. No I didn't. It
Speaker 1: definitely seemed like a misdirection.
Speaker 3: But you know, I understood in that city very much
Speaker 3: like what Spike is saying, is like there were some
Speaker 3: questionable things that she did, you know, dropping kids home
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. You know, in her mind probably
Speaker 3: being a parent, a teacher that cared, which is kind
Speaker 3: of what you want but we're in a world where
Speaker 3: there's a lot of distrust when it comes to extracurricular activities,
Speaker 3: Like I don't think we exist in that world nowadays.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they That's one thing. I thought that
Speaker 1: they laid the mis direction on a little too thick,
Speaker 1: making her like an alcohol again, just kind of sketchy
Speaker 1: and all that. I was like, Okay, it's not her.
Speaker 2: So after waving at a cop, she ends up meeting
Speaker 2: this cop at a bar, and this is when we
Speaker 2: meet Paul. What did you think, Rod about what went
Speaker 2: down with her and Paul at the bar, actually, the
Speaker 2: whole scene with her and Paul, if.
Speaker 1: You remember, I do remember, Yeah, I mean I didn't
Speaker 1: really think much of it. I mean they just were,
Speaker 1: you know, messing around. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't look into it too much. I
Speaker 1: just thought that they were just messing around or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's just somebody she could can find it. Hey, that
Speaker 1: Percy Sledge song. Though they were google it. I got that.
Speaker 1: I had to look it up when that's f five man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so nobody picked up on the fact that he
Speaker 2: was an addict and that she's pushing him I.
Speaker 1: Didn't get that until the wife said something. I thought
Speaker 1: that he just didn't want anything to drink. But I did,
Speaker 1: like he didn't just want something to drink. Why she
Speaker 1: was pushing? Yeah, I did, like, I'm sorry. I did
Speaker 1: like that. This was the first scene that she seemed
Speaker 1: like not a teacher, like a normal person. Like this
Speaker 1: made her, This scene made her more relatable. I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it seemed like she was because I'm like, dang,
Speaker 1: like she she had a very emotional moment. She's there,
Speaker 1: you know, at this bar.
Speaker 3: She clearly wants to unpack, but she and she is
Speaker 3: almost like I'll jump right to it.
Speaker 1: She's a piece of shit.
Speaker 4: It's like, what the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 1: Why you continue to push this man to take this
Speaker 1: drink for your own selfish reasons. But we found out
Speaker 1: he was a piece of shit later, I know, but
Speaker 1: still at this moment, like this is what she was doing.
Speaker 1: She she knew that he was an addict and what
Speaker 1: could happen and she still kept trying to get him
Speaker 1: to have a drink even though he repeatedly said no.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if she if she knew he
Speaker 2: was an addict. Oh, real, only thing I know for
Speaker 2: a fact that she knew was that he didn't want
Speaker 2: to drink.
Speaker 1: And he kept pushing it because I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think at any point she.
Speaker 2: Said anything about his addiction or he said anything about
Speaker 2: his addiction, but he just kept saying I don't want
Speaker 2: to drink, and she was like.
Speaker 1: What really? Why not you want a coke? Just have
Speaker 1: one drink.
Speaker 2: So, even if she didn't know he was an addict,
Speaker 2: if he's like, I don't want to drink tonight, why
Speaker 2: are you pushing it?
Speaker 1: And then it gets to the point, obviously where he
Speaker 1: gets drunk, and we'll talk about that part later when
Speaker 1: it comes back up, but.
Speaker 2: We also see that, you know, they go home together
Speaker 2: and after not being able to get anything out of
Speaker 2: him in regards to the investigation, Justin decides to follow
Speaker 2: Alex home and she gets to the house and finds
Speaker 2: it in.
Speaker 1: A very odd way. Rod, what did you think about
Speaker 1: what went down when she got to the house once,
Speaker 1: I thought the whole thing was stupid, Like why are
Speaker 1: you following this kid home? When she got to the house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like because people was talking to my theater ship was
Speaker 1: packed a yeah, it was later on the phone yes,
Speaker 1: why didn't you tell on her? I'm telling about she
Speaker 1: had a full blown conversation. I mean a scary move
Speaker 1: right now, I swear see for how long? Like the
Speaker 1: whole scene that's crazy, that's crazy move. She got off
Speaker 1: As soon as I was gonna get up and like
Speaker 1: move to the other side of the theater, she was
Speaker 1: like having full blown conversations like are you serious? It
Speaker 1: was crazy. Yeah, people were just talking to the screen
Speaker 1: and ship like that. But but nah, Yeah, it did
Speaker 1: look look crazy that she was going around this house
Speaker 1: looking in the windows or whatever. Yeah, I definitely thought
Speaker 1: something bad was gonna happen. But nah, they had a
Speaker 1: couple of moments with her where I thought something that
Speaker 1: bad was gonna happen, specially when the stuff in the
Speaker 1: house with her prior to this, I really thought something
Speaker 1: was gonna happen then, So she just kept being in
Speaker 1: these situations that that didn't turn into a situation. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I just that's that's as much as I thought about it.
Speaker 2: Well, the windows are brought up a newspaper and then
Speaker 2: we see her peeking in the window and there's two
Speaker 2: adults sitting on the couch just staring. So did anybody
Speaker 2: get freaked out about that?
Speaker 3: Or I thought the mother was like dead or something
Speaker 3: bro too, Yeah, possessed by aliens or what.
Speaker 1: I ain't know what the buck was going on. I
Speaker 1: ain't know what it was. This made me suspect the
Speaker 1: keyd got going on. Hell yeah, and way he cuts
Speaker 1: the ass out.
Speaker 4: But she was doing weird ship. Why the fuck you,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm with the kid. Why the fuck are you
Speaker 4: following me like doing shit?
Speaker 1: You know? And and and and and Wall told her like, man,
Speaker 1: leave that fucking kid along, and she just would not
Speaker 1: let it go.
Speaker 2: I don't blame her, really, especially after the behavior that
Speaker 2: these guys justified with the parents earlier. Yes, because at
Speaker 2: this point she's being blamed for all of this and
Speaker 2: nobody else is trying to solve it, which when she
Speaker 2: was trying to get that out of Paul, Paul was like,
Speaker 2: we don't know anything.
Speaker 1: So yes, at this point, I'm taking the shit into
Speaker 1: my own hands because I'm being blamed for seventeen kids
Speaker 1: disappearing and y'all not doing shit.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't blame her for going to Alex's house.
Speaker 2: For me, it's not necessarily a blame. It's just like, yo,
Speaker 2: like what do you know?
Speaker 1: Like you're not paying attention to these kids, Like you
Speaker 1: don't have no fucking clue how this might have happened.
Speaker 1: And she said, I it's the same thing to you
Speaker 1: as a parent, though, that would be my retort to
Speaker 1: you guys. No, no, I'm not. I already said I would.
Speaker 1: I have to take some responsibility as well. And I
Speaker 1: feel like they kind of did. Like the dad did
Speaker 1: he felt bad about He's like, I guess he didn't
Speaker 1: feel like he loved it. He never told me love
Speaker 1: him and stuff like that, so there was responsibility that
Speaker 1: he was taking. This is after you put publicly all
Speaker 1: that blame on this woman who had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with it. That's fucked up. And now she's like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't have anybody on my side. I have to
Speaker 1: do this on my own. Yeah, but it seemed like
Speaker 1: it seemed like.
Speaker 3: It gave the appearance that she was there was some
Speaker 3: other reason why she was trying to talk to that kid.
Speaker 3: I remember when when uh Wong was like she she
Speaker 3: was like, what can I say to talk to Alice?
Speaker 3: Why the fuck you need to talk to Alice? I
Speaker 3: want to make sure he's okay, Like you don't need
Speaker 3: to talk to this kid. This kid is traumatized. Like
Speaker 3: what if they seemed like she was on some creepy ship.
Speaker 3: She knew that he was being picked on, though we
Speaker 3: didn't know that at the time.
Speaker 1: Though yeah we did because we saw we saw with
Speaker 1: him before, then you can tell.
Speaker 2: And if she if she is as caring of a
Speaker 2: teacher as we're given the impression, then yeah, she might
Speaker 2: know that he's being picked on. But even even if
Speaker 2: he wasn't being picked on, her wanting to find out
Speaker 2: if he's okay is completely normal. Like if she's his
Speaker 2: teacher and all of his all of his classmates disappear,
Speaker 2: why would she not want to make sure he's okay,
Speaker 2: especially if he's acting weird.
Speaker 4: Now, following him to the house though.
Speaker 2: Going to his home because she couldn't get it from Wong.
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's weird dalking. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: Colin Wong and telling him about it was stupid. That
Speaker 2: was stupid, but like, uh, he's just what welfare checks
Speaker 2: are and the cops aren't doing anything, so I don't
Speaker 2: I didn't find it weird.
Speaker 1: But what about what went down at the liquor store,
Speaker 1: Like did Donna at the time. Did y'all think that
Speaker 1: Donna had a reason to whoop that ass? Yes, had
Speaker 1: her following her funny like you kind of see her
Speaker 1: come out of the camera scene and then she'll come
Speaker 1: back into the camera. Oh man, that was it was
Speaker 1: beautifully shot. She deserved it. She definitely deserved ito. I
Speaker 1: thought it was a parent. I thought, yeah, because this
Speaker 1: was right after she went to Alex. Right, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought it was a parent. I thought maybe word got out.
Speaker 3: That she had been following that kid around and they
Speaker 3: probably thought she was about to take somebody else. It
Speaker 3: was one of the parents whipping that ass, but it
Speaker 3: was Donna, and Donna wasn't having it.
Speaker 1: Bro. And even though he lied, I get that, but
Speaker 1: I still think she deserved her as Yeah he did lie. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: uh what about the dream sequence where uh, she's she's
Speaker 1: walking through the school and all the kids are sleeping,
Speaker 1: and then Alex pops up and he has the clown
Speaker 1: makeup on. Was this creepy? The all ar oh them
Speaker 1: just creepy. Yeah. When the dad went through it, when
Speaker 1: she did it, like anytime those sequences happening, it just
Speaker 1: looked creepy. Yeah, it was it was. It was really
Speaker 1: well done.
Speaker 3: How they did that with with her walking through there
Speaker 3: like that, you know, and and Alex too, like.
Speaker 2: Ship that The part of her walking through the school
Speaker 2: didn't get me was when she woke up and that
Speaker 2: fucking clown woman was on the ceiling.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, what I thought that was him?
Speaker 1: I thought that was the father? Nah he had the baby.
Speaker 4: No, no, you're right.
Speaker 1: They seen it in the bait. Yeah, we'll get to
Speaker 1: that scene.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, she she wakes up from the dream
Speaker 2: and then she goes to lean back.
Speaker 1: And she's on the ceiling the father to did you jump? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like oh, ship, yeah I said that out said what
Speaker 1: the fun? Yeah the person it did good with the
Speaker 1: with the tension they got me. But yeah.
Speaker 2: So after an awkward interaction with Alex the one that
Speaker 2: you were talking about, Justine decides to go back to
Speaker 2: Alex's house and there's no answer at the door, so
Speaker 2: she decides to do a steakout but falls asleep.
Speaker 1: Man, what what about? I was like, oh, my ith
Speaker 1: a car door open? Yes, Oh the sound design was perfect.
Speaker 1: It was like quiet then here and you hear her
Speaker 1: going to I was like, I thought she was about
Speaker 1: to die. I did. I did. I was wondering where
Speaker 1: they was gonna go with the movie after me. It
Speaker 1: was like how they gonna kill her so soon? Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she had scissors and she just cut her hair. I
Speaker 1: was like, okay when when she cut her hair, I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, it must be some type of boodoshit involved?
Speaker 1: Was it? The was that the mom of the aunt?
Speaker 1: That was the mom she was directed her to do?
Speaker 1: Because the way she came walking out there.
Speaker 2: And she came to the window and just kind of
Speaker 2: stopped for a second and then went in the back.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, this movie is crazy. It is. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, what the fuck is going on
Speaker 3: with Alex? Like Alice can control fucking people.
Speaker 1: You know, and like that ship was was weird as hell,
Speaker 1: but that she was so fucking dope. Yeah. I was
Speaker 1: cussing her. I was like, you are stupid drunk, That's
Speaker 1: what I get your trunk And I was like, why
Speaker 1: would you go to this house do a stakeout and
Speaker 1: then drink and fall asleep?
Speaker 2: So anyway, so yeah, so then we see the next title,
Speaker 2: which is Archer. Archer is played by Josh Brolin, and
Speaker 2: we found out that his son, Matthew is one of
Speaker 2: the kids that vanished.
Speaker 1: So he meets up with the cops and after going
Speaker 1: through a list of reasons that he thinks that the
Speaker 1: chief should go question Justine, we're taken back to earlier
Speaker 1: in the film where she's being harassed at home and
Speaker 1: we see that he's most likely the one that put
Speaker 1: which on her car.
Speaker 2: But I think things get interesting when he has a
Speaker 2: dream sequence, the one that Rob was talking about. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: what did you think of his dream sequence? This is
Speaker 2: where he's following Matthew through the house and it leads
Speaker 2: to Alex's house, but he doesn't know that, and above
Speaker 2: it there is did y'all notice what was above the house?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it was it. I ain't get that. I
Speaker 1: don't know, so we're going He goes inside and he
Speaker 1: sees Matthew in the bed and that's when he sees
Speaker 1: the clown woman. We're gonna talk about it later, we
Speaker 1: can talk about now. But want to say, I was
Speaker 1: gonna let y'all go first. I didn't get the done
Speaker 1: thing at all. Okay, did you like to? Oh? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: so he was dreaming it was a school. I don't like,
Speaker 1: what does it mean, I think the whole movie is
Speaker 1: a metaphor for the trauma that comes from school shootings
Speaker 1: and why they occurved the kid was being bullied and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, even though that wasn't why the kids
Speaker 1: were taken, but they were being bullied, and the one
Speaker 1: kid that was left, the survivor, you know, goes to school,
Speaker 1: shoots up a bunch of kids and in the school
Speaker 1: and the kids disappear, and the parents are mad, and
Speaker 1: parents unfairly blame the teacher. That's why I was asking
Speaker 1: if there was a school shooting, which y'all have the
Speaker 1: same stance that. Yeah, so yeah. I thought this dream
Speaker 1: was weird, just like hers, creepy. They did a good
Speaker 1: job with it, especially with the flash of the lady's
Speaker 1: face at the end. I thought that was good. That
Speaker 1: fucked me up. Man. It was a great acting in
Speaker 1: this because Josh Brolin body, I think his role was great.
Speaker 1: He was fantastic. I think everybody this was agreed. Julie
Speaker 1: Garner Yeah, yeah, her last two roles. I thought it had
Speaker 1: been really good and different too. I kept what he
Speaker 1: said bull Ship, I said, holy Ship. That was the aunt.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Julia Garner is the girl from Ozark Oh, okay,
Speaker 2: I thought you was talking about the aunt.
Speaker 1: I don't know who she's from, but she was amazing too.
Speaker 3: When Josh Brolan or Arthur's reaction though, was perfect and
Speaker 3: seemed very like real when he was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: Yeah when you woke up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all, but it's it seemed like some some
Speaker 3: ship that was like somebody would really saying it was like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck was that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: It was the dialogue there was I thought was really good.
Speaker 3: Whoever wrote that that ship was crazy because it was like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck was that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the moments where it was funny,
Speaker 1: like you know, it's like kind of humor. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: probably not even intended to be funny, but kind of
Speaker 1: written to maybe be funny. I don't know, it's weird
Speaker 1: to say that, but yeah, he's he's good.
Speaker 2: He's really good at that, at putting humor in the
Speaker 2: right spots. He did that with Barbarian, but he did
Speaker 2: it much better with this, Like he's getting better as.
Speaker 1: It goes along.
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Speaker 2: some of the other parents' video footage, Archer starts triangulating
Speaker 2: which way all the kids ran, but on his way
Speaker 2: home from doing that, he runs in the Justine at
Speaker 2: a gas station, and while conversing with her, they're attacked
Speaker 2: by Marcus So what did y'all think about the way
Speaker 2: the scene ended before transitioning real quick into the next title.
Speaker 1: What I loved was how they showed him being in construction,
Speaker 1: which made sense for him to triangulate those locations. I
Speaker 1: loved that. It was just a subtle detail, but it
Speaker 1: made so much sense because I would otherwise out of
Speaker 1: roll in mind like he know this and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: but he knew the coding of the map and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. I thought that was great, and they left
Speaker 1: it off it just the right place where you were like, man,
Speaker 1: what is happening with him come and running? Like the
Speaker 1: people had the buggy eyes and stuff. So I think
Speaker 1: that that was perfect. His whole sequence was perfect.
Speaker 4: What I liked.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well it's not just kids, you know,
Speaker 1: because at this moment it was just kids that that disappeared.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this mo fucking humans too, like because the
Speaker 1: because the one human we saw, the mom walking out,
Speaker 1: she didn't do that.
Speaker 3: She walked out like she was you know, of course control. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so that was a different thing.
Speaker 1: So then you see this guy running like that, bro,
Speaker 1: and he was like, okay, well he can control humus.
Speaker 1: So now I'm like, well, shit, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the fuck is going on.
Speaker 2: I think that was also part of the metaphor when
Speaker 2: she was I forgot to mention this earlier, when she
Speaker 2: came walking out like a puppet. He obviously, the director
Speaker 2: hasn't said this as far as I've seen, but I
Speaker 2: think it's very clear that he's making a reference to
Speaker 2: school shootings and the fact that like the parent is
Speaker 2: now a puppet, and the parent is now putting the
Speaker 2: blame on the teacher, when in reality has nothing to
Speaker 2: do with the teacher. They're not placing the blame in
Speaker 2: the right area.
Speaker 1: So and who is the right area? We all know
Speaker 1: it's the government that's lad the stuff happened. Is the
Speaker 1: you know, the situations that allow these kids to have
Speaker 1: these mental breaks, et cetera, et cetera. Astration. He was
Speaker 1: a part of the administration, was the principal exactly exactly
Speaker 1: the administration that you know, and we can look at
Speaker 1: that as our current administration that allows people with mental
Speaker 1: health issues to you know, to purchase guns, all of
Speaker 1: these things. I've only seen the movie once, so this
Speaker 1: is all conjecture. I definitely need to see it again
Speaker 1: so I can see if any of this stuff is right.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, the next title is Paul, and in
Speaker 1: this scene, Paul catches some kid breaking into a building. So, Rob,
Speaker 1: what do you think about what went down with with
Speaker 1: with Paul and the little kid that was trying to
Speaker 1: break in when he catches him and all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that's the drugging, Uh yeah drug right, Yeah. I
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting to see his perspective on this
Speaker 1: whole situation. And by this point, I'm like, I think
Speaker 1: what they're doing is very dope with telling the different
Speaker 1: because sometimes you can do this right and sometimes you
Speaker 1: can do it kind of wrong. And I feel like
Speaker 1: they were doing it right at this moment. So but
Speaker 1: I don't know if I thought much about it, because
Speaker 1: we do see him that's when he gets poked with
Speaker 1: the knee and all that. This this is when we
Speaker 1: see all that, Yeah, this ship wasn't tense, this ship,
Speaker 1: this ship wasn't tense. And then then when when the
Speaker 1: whole body can't the whole dash cam shit's like fuck
Speaker 1: when and like we all know, like we've we seen
Speaker 1: dash cam footage and that's probably how they respond when
Speaker 1: they realize, oh ship, this ship is fucking recorded or whatever,
Speaker 1: so it was interesting to see how all of that
Speaker 1: is handled. But yeah, because he's out shit out of here, man.
Speaker 1: But I thought this whole sequence was interesting, especially what
Speaker 1: it what it ended up leading up to. I was
Speaker 1: because concerned and impressed. I was concerned in the sense
Speaker 1: of like why we need Paul's story, like what what
Speaker 1: does he have to do with this? But it did
Speaker 1: add layers of depths in the sense of showing what
Speaker 1: he did have to do with and how they played out.
Speaker 1: But I didn't know that they would be able to
Speaker 1: do it that well. So at this point, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't really need the police officer story. But I
Speaker 1: did find it interesting that he got poked with that needle.
Speaker 1: Then when after he thought he had AIDS and had
Speaker 1: sex with the teacher, I thought that was a real
Speaker 1: dirtball move by him. Yeah, he yeah, that was fucked up.
Speaker 1: And even when he was like you got it, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't think so yeah, yeah, dude
Speaker 1: was funny, that junkie dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, But you know, I thought it was It
Speaker 3: was interesting because we don't know what.
Speaker 1: Type of person Paul really is outside of what we've
Speaker 1: seen him in the movie. But he's having a really
Speaker 1: shitty ass day, and the shitty as day he's having
Speaker 1: is calling him to react in in violent ways, in
Speaker 1: ways that is that isn't the best. He's sleeping with somebody.
Speaker 3: He punched the kid, you know, Uh punched the kid
Speaker 3: because he got poked by the needle. So's he's been
Speaker 3: a violent, you know, abusive cop, you know, on the job.
Speaker 3: He goes to the chief and they try to cover
Speaker 3: it up, and this whole thing, you know.
Speaker 1: That that happened, and that sent him spirally. That one
Speaker 1: thing sent him spiraling the rest of the rest of
Speaker 1: the day, you know.
Speaker 3: Uh in Paul's uh life.
Speaker 1: So even though I think he still wasn't trying to
Speaker 1: drink anything, but he eventually gave it, spoke with age, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he was resistant. He kept saying no, no, multiple time.
Speaker 1: We never saw when he changed this much. But you know,
Speaker 1: but uh, he ended up being a piece of shit
Speaker 1: person too. Like you know, what caused it to happen,
Speaker 1: you know, was maybe it was him being poked or whatever,
Speaker 1: but he.
Speaker 4: Still was was a piece of ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So after telling his boss who's also his girlfriend's father,
Speaker 1: about what happened, we see him meeting up with Justine
Speaker 1: hitting it obviously. So that also shows us why Donna
Speaker 1: beat Justine's ass because he fucking told her what happened,
Speaker 1: which I don't know why he did that, Uh, but
Speaker 1: that was his wife dad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because he could have lied and just said
Speaker 3: I got drunk and slept in the car.
Speaker 1: He could just well, I guess he couldn't say it
Speaker 1: was police business because she'd ask her dad. Well, she
Speaker 1: he was fully dressed, so I think that's why she
Speaker 1: looked like what he thought. She was out of town,
Speaker 1: so he had.
Speaker 3: But apparently I think they must have been sleeping around
Speaker 3: before and she she knew.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, But to Ken's point, he could have just
Speaker 2: said I got drunk in the car and I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I but he ain't supposed to be drinking though. That's
Speaker 1: that's the point. So that's probably what made her ask
Speaker 1: him the question, right, But he didn't even try a lot.
Speaker 1: That lot could have worked. He was like, yeah, and
Speaker 1: he was surprised she was there. He thought she was
Speaker 1: out of time. Yeah, but he still could have just
Speaker 1: lied like she was. She was the one that let
Speaker 1: us know he had a drinking problem, right, So and.
Speaker 2: She was like relapsed exactly, Okay, card I relapsed and
Speaker 2: I didn't want to drive.
Speaker 1: I was but I will say, these damn women, women
Speaker 1: selling the woman on you though they can feel this
Speaker 1: ship out.
Speaker 2: I would pour beer all over my dick and everything.
Speaker 2: You can't you can't smell vagina through beer.
Speaker 1: Well at that point he would have had to run
Speaker 1: into it because didn't know she was there.
Speaker 2: But anyway, the interesting part is what happens when he
Speaker 2: sees the kid, the little junkie kid, coming towards the station.
Speaker 2: He takes off after him with transitions into the James
Speaker 2: title and Spike. What did you immediately think about when
Speaker 2: you saw James getting down? Like, do you think he's
Speaker 2: was he supposed to be from Nashville?
Speaker 1: He was smoking? Myth. That wasn't crack that anybody else
Speaker 1: picked that out. That's myth because that's you tell how
Speaker 1: he was acting. It was myth. But I found it
Speaker 1: hilarious on the reaction when he came out of the
Speaker 1: police station, had seen him again. He was like, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: that was funny. It's hell to me for some reason. Uh,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I really didn't know where they was going.
Speaker 1: Pointing us to the direction of the myth head character. Like,
Speaker 1: so I was really like wondering, now, okay, what's up.
Speaker 1: I was still enjoying it, but I was really wondering
Speaker 1: where they were going with the different perspectives. But I
Speaker 1: think they did a great job of it. You know,
Speaker 1: just sequence of events too, because of what happened earlier,
Speaker 1: those kids could have possibly be saved to rescue a
Speaker 1: lot sooner, you know, even though he was doing it
Speaker 1: for fifty thousand dollars. Nevertheless, he still had intail facts,
Speaker 1: you know. But because Paul, who was in his feelings
Speaker 1: and mad about everything, he decided to chase the kid off.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I thought it was crazy. He's seen her in the woods.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was. Oh that ship was like what
Speaker 1: the fuck? Yeah? That that was that kind of fucked
Speaker 1: me up too.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, so there's this cloud woman, Like what
Speaker 2: the fuck is going on? But yeah that oh actually, no,
Speaker 2: that we skipped apart. He got stabbed in the face
Speaker 2: with him. No, that happened after this part. So we
Speaker 2: see what went down between him and Paul. From James's perspective,
Speaker 2: after Paul let him go, after he punched him. We
Speaker 2: see that James goes looking for a score, and that's
Speaker 2: when he breaks into Alex's house, and that's when he
Speaker 2: goes down to the basement.
Speaker 1: So what did y'all think about what happened in the basement? Oh,
Speaker 1: that ship was freaky. That was I was s that
Speaker 1: was an old ship moment. Yes, damn so that Yeah,
Speaker 1: you had no idea at this point. We still had
Speaker 1: no idea even though we know, Okay, the mystery solved.
Speaker 1: The kids are in the basement, but what the fuck
Speaker 1: are they doing? Why are they there? Like, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a spinning unison for me. Like whateverucker turned around,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, same.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm still thinking that what the hell is
Speaker 4: this kid doing?
Speaker 2: I assumed he was getting bullied and he must. I
Speaker 2: thought he was the witch because they showed him with
Speaker 2: the makeup on earlier. I thought that the Witch woman
Speaker 2: was like his personification or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I thought that those.
Speaker 2: Kids were bullying him because one of the bullies, which
Speaker 2: ends up being Archer's son, was in the basement, so
Speaker 2: I thought that he summoned all them kids down there
Speaker 2: and just made them stare.
Speaker 1: At the wall. So I was like, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: an interesting angle. But yeah, when they spun around like that,
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I don't fuck with little kids
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: I was like because I kept waiting for Alice to
Speaker 3: pop up, and he never showed up.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but we heard whoever somebody he was
Speaker 1: lucking the room. He probably was because we heard like
Speaker 1: rummaging and stuff in there, So somebody was in the house.
Speaker 1: They just didn't give a fuck that he was in
Speaker 1: the house. But the fact that he saw that, the
Speaker 1: fact that he saw them put them. The parents sit
Speaker 1: in there, and he's still went and got his ship
Speaker 1: and wasn't in herd to get out of the house.
Speaker 1: Brod do that to you? He said, I'm getting it.
Speaker 1: I'm to take the silver. They can't do nothing about it,
Speaker 1: even when the parents got up and like kind of
Speaker 1: chased him out the house. This is crazy.
Speaker 2: But so yeah, we found out the reason that James
Speaker 2: was going to the police stations because he was trying
Speaker 2: to get the reward of finding all the missing kids.
Speaker 2: But Paul sees him and chases him back to his tent,
Speaker 2: during which James sees the clown woman in the woods
Speaker 2: where his tent is, which leads to a crazy scene
Speaker 2: involving Paul, and that's when he gets stabbed in the
Speaker 2: face with the man Jesus with the needles.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, y'all like that. I definitely flinched. It feels
Speaker 1: like it would have hurt him more than it did too.
Speaker 1: He really like the initial reaction that he was just
Speaker 1: shrugged it off. I feel like after it, I think
Speaker 1: he was just so mad at that. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: just you know. But yeah, So now I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: I think the main thing I kept thinking is like, damn,
Speaker 1: he about to kill the one person that has the
Speaker 1: information to what he's kids. I thought I thought he
Speaker 1: was gonna shoot him. When he put the shotgun on him,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, damn.
Speaker 2: But yeah, So James tells Paul he knows what the
Speaker 2: missing kids are, so they go back to Alex's house.
Speaker 2: Paul comes out clearly possessed and drags James off, which
Speaker 2: leads into the next title, which is Marcus.
Speaker 1: This is where it gets wild. So Marcus and his
Speaker 1: partner are shopping for groceries before inviting Alex's parents to
Speaker 1: a meeting. I was waiting on this one, and it's
Speaker 1: here that we get the first real look at the
Speaker 1: clown lady whose name is actually Gladys. So what did
Speaker 1: y'all think about the meeting? I loved the secretary and
Speaker 1: how subtly funny that was. She was like at two o'clock,
Speaker 1: his here and out saying anything. It was just on
Speaker 1: her face. This bitch is crazy, Like it's like she
Speaker 1: didn't even want to leave the room. And then it
Speaker 1: was I liked it. But as soon as that lady
Speaker 1: walked in, I was like, Oh, Okay, there we go.
Speaker 1: That's the person that's doing all this. Like she just
Speaker 1: had that look on her face and I couldn't tell
Speaker 1: if like she she looked like she was taking like
Speaker 1: she looked like the dad and the mama combined. Like
Speaker 1: she like she looked like both of them. And I
Speaker 1: was like, what what is she doing to she possessing
Speaker 1: their bodies or something like it was like on some
Speaker 1: what's the last movie we seen together? It was on
Speaker 1: some ship like that. That's what she looked like to me.
Speaker 1: Maybe that was fresh on my mind.
Speaker 3: I I thought that Alice was controlling her. Oh wow,
Speaker 3: I thought that Alice was actually working for her.
Speaker 1: And she was just running interference. I never thought it
Speaker 1: was him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what That's what I was still thinking.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, Alex don't want to get caught.
Speaker 1: So she's like a puppet or something. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. No. The second I saw her, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's doing she did it. Yeah, she's exactly what I thought.
Speaker 1: So when she walked in.
Speaker 2: Especially the answer she was giving, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: she is absolutely a witch.
Speaker 1: Did you pick up on when she was like eight
Speaker 1: hundred years old? She's eight hundred years old. That's why
Speaker 1: she was talking in there, Like we remember when she
Speaker 1: was saying that crazy stuff and people were looking at
Speaker 1: like the that don't even terminology crazy stuff. She said
Speaker 1: something that had like real old assumption.
Speaker 2: She said, so when when she's talking to Marcus, she
Speaker 2: said that the parents are sick because Marcus wants to
Speaker 2: do a welfare check and she's like, well they're sick,
Speaker 2: and she said he has a touch of consumption and he.
Speaker 1: Was like what the fuck is that? But she did
Speaker 1: it again too, like she was using very old I
Speaker 1: looked at a review that said this that th D
Speaker 1: I thought watching it always cheat but they said like
Speaker 1: they was trying to relay the fact that she was
Speaker 1: like hundreds of years old, and that's why she came
Speaker 1: off as such a weird person. Maybe. I don't know
Speaker 1: if y'all picked up on him, because I didn't either.
Speaker 1: I was on the consumption thing, and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I know what that word means, but what would it
Speaker 1: mean here? That's what he said.
Speaker 2: But it makes sense because because if you look at up,
Speaker 2: the consumption is the using up of a resource, and
Speaker 2: that's what she was, and that's what she's doing to
Speaker 2: the parents and the kids, So that that made sense.
Speaker 1: I never picked up that she was. I did pick
Speaker 1: up that she didn't. She wasn't really their aunt. I
Speaker 1: didn't pick up either. So when they were driving in
Speaker 1: the car, well, we'll get to that, or we'll get
Speaker 1: to that part. I'm jumping ahead.
Speaker 2: So yeah, So what did y'all think when they were
Speaker 2: eating at Marcus's house? Did y'all catch what they were watching?
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I do remember its sticking out.
Speaker 1: Was it the same thing they were watching in the
Speaker 1: classroom about the parasite In the classroom, they were watching
Speaker 1: something specific about parasites and Marcus. At Marcus and his
Speaker 1: partner's house, they're watching that same video that we've seen
Speaker 1: of the Courtyceps in dating and ants grow out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because yeah, uh, because that's what I because. Okay,
Speaker 3: So going back a little bit in the classroom, there
Speaker 3: was well and then there was parasite written on the board.
Speaker 4: So that's what I was. That's why I'm still thinking
Speaker 4: it's parasite.
Speaker 3: At the time, I didn't even think of which, you know,
Speaker 3: until it was clearly splayed out.
Speaker 1: I still was thinking parasite, especially when they showed that
Speaker 1: scene about the cordyceps stuff so and how it can
Speaker 1: be controlled, and of course the kids were controlled. So
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's that's what I was still thinking. Is Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you went back to that. So the Gang
Speaker 1: of Glizzies didn't tell y'all nothing. So what isn't that
Speaker 1: what they call them? Hot dog? You didn't notice all
Speaker 1: those hot dogs that they were eating? What about the awesome? Okay,
Speaker 1: did anybody think anything about all the hot dogs?
Speaker 4: I know they had like six of them.
Speaker 1: I thought it was like a trade full of them.
Speaker 1: It was other stuff barely there was like a little
Speaker 1: bit of something else and it was all hot.
Speaker 2: I did think we're gonna eat all of my dogs,
Speaker 2: So you're not picking up on. Everybody in this movie
Speaker 2: has some sort of vice. So there they have a
Speaker 2: bunch of food. You have Paul, Paul is an addict.
Speaker 2: You have what's her face? Because she was an alcoholic.
Speaker 1: Yes, Julia's an alcoholic.
Speaker 2: Julia's an alcoholic. James is an addict. And the da
Speaker 2: is before you asked me that I had something on
Speaker 2: the dad. Now I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 1: I would just like OCD.
Speaker 3: Baby, maybe workaholic because he never told his son he
Speaker 3: loved him, so I don't know if he never was
Speaker 3: around or anything.
Speaker 1: Fuck, I forgot what the dad's was. The dad had
Speaker 1: something where I was like, okay, everybody has a vice
Speaker 1: that they're kind of stuck on him. But I can't
Speaker 1: remember what the dads like his may have been because
Speaker 1: he went from not telling me love him to like
Speaker 1: sleeping in his bed. He watched the video thirty times.
Speaker 1: He asked the lady could he watch her video? She
Speaker 1: said no. He asked the dad, and the dad let
Speaker 1: him watch it. So I feel like he was kind
Speaker 1: of O c D. Now that you're pointing that out
Speaker 1: as the resident person with O c D, that sounds
Speaker 1: like I personally insulted Spike joking.
Speaker 4: He lost his son and yeah he's just reacting.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's spiraling. Sounds like brief spiraling. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: don't remember. I should have wrote it down. I don't remember.
Speaker 2: What was the point you were about to make it
Speaker 2: with it that that was their vice. These motherfuckers love
Speaker 2: to eat because if you if you notice when they
Speaker 2: were in the store, the skinnier.
Speaker 1: One was always like holding the little bag up and
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, yeah, like I didn't realize
Speaker 1: it was Freddy fucked up, but he did it though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of fucked up though it's him. They were
Speaker 1: both joking, they were joking. I think he was just like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't I just know he was holding up cereal
Speaker 1: and he was like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I think their vice, or at least Marcus's vice,
Speaker 2: is definitely food. That motherfucker loves to eat because he
Speaker 2: was man when he was bringing them hot dogs, he
Speaker 2: was like, oh yeah, he was ready.
Speaker 1: Ready for the blizzies.
Speaker 2: So Gladys shows up at their house and this was
Speaker 2: fucking crazy. So where did y'all think about what went
Speaker 2: down when Alex when Gladys came to the house.
Speaker 1: The little husband's response when he walked up to the door,
Speaker 1: it was just like the secretary, like, who in the
Speaker 1: fuck is this? But that whole scene was crazy, And
Speaker 1: then I was finally satisfied as Okay, this is what's
Speaker 1: going on, Like it gave way more clarity and again
Speaker 1: it was placed perfectly. I feel like they told the
Speaker 1: story from the perspective of the people perfectly, and for
Speaker 1: this one to be like, well, not the last one,
Speaker 1: but the next. Last one was great and showing how
Speaker 1: you got possessed and stuff. It was why that that
Speaker 1: kitchen scene was wild?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love I love Wong's reaction because he wasn't
Speaker 3: trying to let her in.
Speaker 1: He was like, he wasn't trying to let her in,
Speaker 1: He wasn't trying to give her any fuck. He wasn't
Speaker 1: trying to.
Speaker 3: Do ship that ship. He just like, why the fuck
Speaker 3: are you here? And none of this ship makes sense?
Speaker 3: And you can't come in my house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when she asked for water out of bowl, you
Speaker 1: gotta leave, absolutely, Yeah, you know you wanted to bowl
Speaker 1: leave my house. You look like that already and you
Speaker 1: want to him is this one of them? Situations where
Speaker 1: what's the rule to be invited in vampires? Vampires? I
Speaker 1: don't know which is that applies to them. She just
Speaker 1: walked her ass. I thought she was asking can she
Speaker 1: come in? She did, but that was just disarm them
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because neither one of them wanted her to come in.
Speaker 2: They could have physically overpowered her, you know, especially big
Speaker 2: ass wall.
Speaker 4: And then she cut a piece of his hair and
Speaker 4: he was like what the fuck?
Speaker 1: Their reactions was price so good. This whole fucking scene
Speaker 1: was done so well because I did not know why
Speaker 1: the fuck she was there, what was happening. But when
Speaker 1: she did the little bell thing, I was like what.
Speaker 1: She was like, get out. Yeah, it's like get out,
Speaker 1: and he was just and yeah.
Speaker 2: When she then put the hair on, because when she
Speaker 2: when she was talking to the to the husband and
Speaker 2: he walked over and she cut.
Speaker 1: His hair, I was like, what the what's wrong with
Speaker 1: this woman? His reaction, he was like, just cut my hair.
Speaker 1: And man, this was one of my favorite scenes in
Speaker 1: the whole movie. When he started head button his ass,
Speaker 1: I was like, God, damn, she he fucked her up
Speaker 1: or fucked him up. He said, you want some head here?
Speaker 1: Some head boy, and she pulled the teacher hair out
Speaker 1: of her okay pocket, it wasn't the teacher's hair. It
Speaker 1: was a ribbon. So if you if you remember when
Speaker 1: she won, I'm talking about the other Yes, yeah, made
Speaker 1: him start running. Okay, she put Justine's hair on and
Speaker 1: then snapped and he's running after her. Ass. That was crazy,
Speaker 1: like a GPS. Like I even know what she was
Speaker 1: at about that too, but I just let it go.
Speaker 1: But I did think that too.
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, ass ran all the way across
Speaker 2: the whole scene of him running from his house to
Speaker 2: where they were, I was like, this is insane. His
Speaker 2: fucking bugged out eyes. Oh my god, man. So what'd
Speaker 2: you think when we see the full scene of Markets attacking.
Speaker 1: Her Rod, Nah, it was. It was amazing. I Like
Speaker 1: I said, I was waiting for this moment. I was
Speaker 1: waiting to see what the fuck was going on with
Speaker 1: him because that was the first time we had seen
Speaker 1: not the first time, but we seen something that crazy
Speaker 1: with his eyes bulged out and all that. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: what is that about? Some when it was time for
Speaker 1: him to tell the story from his perspective, I was waiting,
Speaker 1: but nah, man. Like this whole execution was so good
Speaker 1: with Josh Brolin away, he was like kept kept beating
Speaker 1: his ass and he just kept getting up. Like all
Speaker 1: of that ship was good. Him crawling on the car,
Speaker 1: her running away was so realistic, like like fucking help me,
Speaker 1: like goddamn, Like right, So nah, it was this this,
Speaker 1: this whole ship was executed.
Speaker 3: So well, yeah, I was, you know, it was It
Speaker 3: was interesting the store clerk. I thought the store clerk
Speaker 3: was actually gonna shoot him, but he was like, nah,
Speaker 3: just get out of my store. So his reaction was
Speaker 3: just like, nah, you call something, they're chasing you.
Speaker 1: I don't want anything to do it, so.
Speaker 3: Get the fuck out and just completely just ignoring, you know,
Speaker 3: this woman being you know, attacked by a violent man,
Speaker 3: which was kind of wild, and even just thinking about
Speaker 3: while he's running, just the reactions of people in the
Speaker 3: town blowing the horn like you see a guy running
Speaker 3: an anime style, Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: You just kind of ignore it. But you just think
Speaker 1: it's a crazy guy. You probably think it's meth head spike,
Speaker 1: so you just like, oh, got another drug. He's just
Speaker 1: running around in the city. You know, they gotta do
Speaker 1: something about it. But yeah, all that ship was really.
Speaker 3: Really dope, and and uh even even the demise of
Speaker 3: how it happened.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that shit was crazy. Yeah, I love this
Speaker 1: whole scene.
Speaker 2: I thought it was I thought it was great, the
Speaker 2: way he's chasing after her and she doesn't know what
Speaker 2: the fuck to do. But uh, during Marcus chasing Justine
Speaker 2: some more, after she gets in her car and takes off,
Speaker 2: he's run.
Speaker 1: Over black car and dies. But uh. While at the hospital,
Speaker 1: Archer and Justine talk and they figure out whose house
Speaker 1: everyone was going to, and they figure out it's Alex's,
Speaker 1: and this leads us into the last title of the movie,
Speaker 1: which is Alex. And this kicks off with Alex riding
Speaker 1: home from school with his dad, And this is when
Speaker 1: I was talking about earlier. So so, Spike, you didn't.
Speaker 2: Pick up The dad says uh like like, Alex says, well,
Speaker 2: I don't even know aunt Gladys either. He says uh
Speaker 2: uh yeah, he says, I don't. I don't really know
Speaker 2: her either, And I think he might have implied that
Speaker 2: the mom doesn't really remember her either, So I don't
Speaker 2: think this was their aunt at all.
Speaker 1: I was talking to Abe because he's seen he said
Speaker 1: the same thing that that wouldn't they He thought that
Speaker 1: that was that they real aren't. I don't think I
Speaker 1: never picked it up though, but I somebody else said
Speaker 1: that to me too.
Speaker 3: They did mention, and I think it was the mom
Speaker 3: or maybe it was the dad. It was like, we
Speaker 3: haven't seen her in fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Over fifteen years said that to them, going back just slightly.
Speaker 1: I do like speaking to his I guess attention to
Speaker 1: detail to dad how he figured out what was going
Speaker 1: on behind the arms was like what we talked about earlier.
Speaker 1: Because she was like, I never seen anything like that before,
Speaker 1: and he was like, I have because I watched his
Speaker 1: video so much. I thought that was really good. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought that was other than that, Like Alex's conversation
Speaker 1: with his dad was interesting. Seeing him being bullied was interesting,
Speaker 1: and all of it just added more depth to the story.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: The dad, Yeah, yeah, you know, Alice's not saying anything,
Speaker 3: but you see that he had a really good, loving
Speaker 3: relationship with his kid. You know, a regular routine I
Speaker 3: pick you up at two. You know the opposite of Arthur,
Speaker 3: because he tells the kid that he loves him. You know,
Speaker 3: Arthur did not say that and he regretted it, and
Speaker 3: uh so, yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It was good.
Speaker 4: Seeing like the parents reaction, I don't know how.
Speaker 3: They would take in this woman without having some type
Speaker 3: of evidence that that's the aunt though. That's where I'm confused.
Speaker 1: Well, she was sick, so when she shows up, she
Speaker 1: looks all frail and gross. I just assumed that she
Speaker 1: had put some kind of spell on them, like maybe
Speaker 1: they never even had an aunt, but the spell was
Speaker 1: for them to think, oh, we have an aunt and
Speaker 1: she has to come live with us.
Speaker 2: I don't remember her, but my brain is saying, we
Speaker 2: have an aunt and she was the mom's aunt.
Speaker 1: That's what it was, the moms but he remind her
Speaker 1: remember her. Okay, a spell makes sense. Maybe she called
Speaker 1: and maybe that's what ye interests. No idea.
Speaker 2: I mean that kind of thing might bother some people,
Speaker 2: but I kind of like that. There's certain things that
Speaker 2: just weren't answered.
Speaker 1: It bothered me. That was the one thing that bothered me.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, so why does random ass family
Speaker 1: or why does even if they were family, why does
Speaker 1: she choose to do this to her own family. I
Speaker 1: didn't understand that. Well, it could be because she knew
Speaker 1: that he was being bullied so it would be easier
Speaker 1: for her to manipulate him, or it could just be
Speaker 1: that she wanted the kids regardless, that was her goal
Speaker 1: is to get the kids. So if I thought her
Speaker 1: goal was to get the parents, because she said she
Speaker 1: tried the parents, she said that didn't work, right, I
Speaker 1: thought it would. She said, the parents aren't working, so
Speaker 1: I need the kids. So even Okay, So let's say
Speaker 1: her original goal was to get two adults that she
Speaker 1: could suck the energy from. I don't think it really
Speaker 1: matters which group of adults she picked.
Speaker 2: And she could have picked any random group of adults
Speaker 2: in the movie and this and the outcome would have
Speaker 2: still been the same.
Speaker 1: Right, I get you love with that, but it was
Speaker 1: confusing to me, like, why would you do this to
Speaker 1: your own family? Why wouldn't you just pick some random
Speaker 1: people that you don't even fucking know. That's why I
Speaker 1: don't think that she I don't think that was her family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, her not being true family makes sense because I
Speaker 3: was I was like, why would you do this to
Speaker 3: your family?
Speaker 1: But if that's not, if that's just some.
Speaker 3: Random family and there and she's eight hundred years old,
Speaker 3: then it don't matter.
Speaker 1: It could just be that she she might have been
Speaker 1: in another body and took this body over. I never
Speaker 1: I never thought about it that hard.
Speaker 2: But even even if that really is her own blood family,
Speaker 2: if she's a witch, I could see why she might
Speaker 2: still do what she's doing because she's a fucking witch
Speaker 2: and she feels like her life is more important than theirs,
Speaker 2: so she's gonna siphon them anyway.
Speaker 1: She wants to. What did y'all think about how.
Speaker 2: Glad it's threatened Alex to make him not say anything
Speaker 2: to the authorities.
Speaker 3: Man genius making them stab themselves with forks repeatedly. Jesus Christ,
Speaker 3: Like if you see that, if you're this kid and
Speaker 3: you see that happening to your parents, you will definitely
Speaker 3: fall in line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that was one of the main things, Like
Speaker 1: how why did this kid just fall in line? Like
Speaker 1: this was this old ass lady. But but yeah, that
Speaker 1: that was very convincing, Like, Okay, agree it was Christian
Speaker 1: because that's something I feel like a kid would about you,
Speaker 1: Like I love he loved his parents so much. I
Speaker 1: had a loving relationship. And she's like, look, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: fuck him up if you do exactly as I say.
Speaker 1: It made a lot of sense as far as him
Speaker 1: just being quiet, and he was a smart kid, like
Speaker 1: he was pulling water on their faces, like what the
Speaker 1: fuck is going on with them? Like something was up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he knew something. He had the door, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: had intuition. Then he's like, Yo, how long is she
Speaker 1: gonna be here? The weird asshold woman? Yeah, kids be
Speaker 1: like that though, they're intuitive like that.
Speaker 3: Mm because he was asking all kinds of questions bout
Speaker 3: nobody ever seen it?
Speaker 1: Who the is she from? Right? She's sleeping there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right.
Speaker 3: Even when she got out with that big with that
Speaker 3: damn tree and shit like that. I think he was
Speaker 3: walking around looking around and shit like that. So yeah,
Speaker 3: he didn't fuck with her at all, and she knew it.
Speaker 1: So yeah.
Speaker 2: This is the part where Gladys kind of reveals to
Speaker 2: Alex that, you know, she thought that his parents would
Speaker 2: make things a bit better, but it's not working. So
Speaker 2: she tells him to go to the school and get
Speaker 2: a bunch of personal items from all of his classmates.
Speaker 1: So he does that.
Speaker 2: It works, and we see all of the kids running
Speaker 2: to Alex's house, but then it flashes to present day,
Speaker 2: and Justine and Archer decide to go to Alex's house.
Speaker 1: Once they get there, they are immediately attacked. So what
Speaker 1: did y'all think about that attack? Uh, let's start off
Speaker 1: with the Justine and Paul fight. What did y'all think
Speaker 1: of that? I wanted to start some of the where
Speaker 1: we go there and I'm sorry they're trying to get through. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but this was part of the thing when we talk
Speaker 1: about the teacher. So I'm like, how the fuck did
Speaker 1: you not realize all the goddamn names weren't on the
Speaker 1: on the Cooke Cubbies anymore. So that's the type of
Speaker 1: shit I'm talking about. Your ass ain't paying attention to
Speaker 1: what the fuck going on in your class So what
Speaker 1: if she did notice that? Then what that ship looked suspicious?
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, how does she how do we
Speaker 1: know that? She didn't tell long Now, it wouldn't have
Speaker 1: made a difference. She was like, she don't know what
Speaker 1: the fuck going on, She don't know what happened.
Speaker 3: So so I had the same question, right, I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, your classroom had all of the names on it,
Speaker 3: so how the hell did you not know that they
Speaker 3: were missing?
Speaker 1: But what can she do about that? And what difference
Speaker 1: that's suspicious? Right? Soble you bring that up. It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but all the fucking tasks were going
Speaker 1: and I came in the room and Mike and Alex
Speaker 1: was doing some weird ship What was he doing when? Nothing?
Speaker 1: But but he he left. It just wasn't he wasn't
Speaker 1: a recess. She noticed he walked away, so she was
Speaker 1: she didn't notice that, but when he got to the
Speaker 1: crass room, he gave her some fucking excuse and it
Speaker 1: just didn't make sense. But then at that moment you
Speaker 1: had the fucking name tags are gone, Like what the
Speaker 1: fuck are you doing? I think that added more to
Speaker 1: her continuously wanting to talk to him because she knew
Speaker 1: he knew something she just couldn't. She hadn't figured it
Speaker 1: out yet, so like had happened by that point though
Speaker 1: nothing had happened by that Yeah, nothing had happened at
Speaker 1: that point, But once it did happen, y'all are expecting
Speaker 1: her to have a memory. Oh, I remember now that
Speaker 1: Alex is in the room and all the name tags,
Speaker 1: which is why she probably wanted to talk to him. Nah, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's a small thing, but it's
Speaker 1: a very big thing because you she designed the whole
Speaker 1: class and all those tags are there. But also it
Speaker 1: kind of made sense for me. I'm like, how are
Speaker 1: you gonna take all these other items from these kids?
Speaker 1: How are you gonna get that tour from that kid's backpack?
Speaker 1: How are you gonna get this thing frohim? It's the
Speaker 1: easiest route, it's the easiest route.
Speaker 3: But she knew that Alex left and when we went
Speaker 3: to Pe, all the tags were there. When we came
Speaker 3: back from Pe, all the tags are missing. And Alex
Speaker 3: is the one that was in the class room when
Speaker 3: all this stuff went missing.
Speaker 1: So I guess you'll parents bring kicking in again, because
Speaker 1: even if she addresses him like what what's the solution today?
Speaker 1: Like I've seen you take the name tags off, all
Speaker 1: of the questions like why do you take these? Did
Speaker 1: question them?
Speaker 2: So I'm saying maybe she did tell them, Hey, when
Speaker 2: I left, they were name tags.
Speaker 1: When I came back, they were gone.
Speaker 2: Y'all need to talk to Alex because the beginning of
Speaker 2: the movie clearly says the cops questioned Alex and Alex
Speaker 2: said he doesn't know anything. So I'm not really seeing
Speaker 2: how this is again the teacher's fault, because she.
Speaker 1: Was saying that. I'm not saying it is her fault.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is that, like, just give some sort
Speaker 1: of information that could help solve this case. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: I think I think y'all are who the movie is
Speaker 1: talking to, because the movie is saying that she is
Speaker 1: just a teacher. She's not a fucking detective. It's not
Speaker 1: her job to figure out where these kids went. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying her job to come to the class and
Speaker 1: teach the kids. So you're adding to it. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it's her job to be a detective and figure
Speaker 1: that out. All I'm saying is you just give some information.
Speaker 1: And she's like, look, I'm just as surprised as y'all. Right, no,
Speaker 1: the fuck you not? Because you saw this kid walk
Speaker 1: away from recess. All these tags are going off these cubicles.
Speaker 1: You're gonna notice it at some point that they're not there,
Speaker 1: you know, point you're gonna get that information to the
Speaker 1: to She didn't, is the point. Because they didn't say it.
Speaker 1: They didn't say a lot of things. They didn't say
Speaker 1: she shit before she but what she did say that
Speaker 1: she have no clue. She didn't have a clue about
Speaker 1: what happened. What reason would there have been for her
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, I think Alex took these seventeen kids.
Speaker 1: There's no reason for her to think that. All parents
Speaker 1: who don't want to take any responsibility for their own
Speaker 1: situations immediately blame public school teachers.
Speaker 2: For But I'm not that parent. I just want to
Speaker 2: go on record and say, course, but like so, but
Speaker 2: but you're still putting an unfair burden on her.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that. Again, I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: it's her fault and I'm not placing all the blame
Speaker 1: on her. I'm saying I'm saying that I feel like
Speaker 1: she could have done some things to help. And I
Speaker 1: understand the parents being like, Yo, you don't know fucking
Speaker 1: nothing that happened in this class. You don't think it's
Speaker 1: anything you didn't see any type of whatever, whatever, Like okay,
Speaker 1: so let's let's go to this. She clearly tells Wong
Speaker 1: that something is going on with Alex. She tells him
Speaker 1: that he says, leave it alone, right, so she did
Speaker 1: do part of her job. She says, something is going
Speaker 1: on with Alex. But though, no, at this point, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about when she goes to the house, when get
Speaker 1: what y'all called creepy. So on one hand, y'all are like, oh,
Speaker 1: she needs to give more information the detective, and then
Speaker 1: when she tries to figure out her own, oh, she's
Speaker 1: being creepy. So it's like she can't win. But regardless,
Speaker 1: she goes to the house, she looks in the window,
Speaker 1: she sees all the windows are boarded up. She tells
Speaker 1: Wong something is up with this fucking kid and the house.
Speaker 1: I think I do think nothing came from that. So
Speaker 1: if let's say she did tell the cops, hey, man,
Speaker 1: all of these name tags were gone. Maybe the cops asked, Alex,
Speaker 1: did you take the name tags? And Alex says no,
Speaker 1: or Alex says yes, and then the conversation is over. Well,
Speaker 1: so I think what came out of her telling Wong
Speaker 1: what she saw at the house was the was the meeting?
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, So I think something did come out
Speaker 1: of that. All I'm saying is nothing, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, no, nothing came from that because Wong just
Speaker 1: had a meeting with her, but he never told the cops.
Speaker 1: Wong never told the cops that, oh, a welfare check
Speaker 1: at the house, which is what she said to do.
Speaker 1: So y'all again, y'all are putting I feel unfair, unfair
Speaker 1: burden on the teacher when she did what she was
Speaker 1: supposed to do. She told her superior, there needs to
Speaker 1: be a welfare check at this house. He didn't do it.
Speaker 1: He was doing the welfare chat. That's why he met
Speaker 1: with Wealth. He's not he's not a counselor, he's a
Speaker 1: he's a principal. But he should have told the cops. No,
Speaker 1: I got you, I got you. I'm not disagree with that,
Speaker 1: but I think he didn't tell the cops. But he
Speaker 1: was taking actionally himself to do a welfare check. That's
Speaker 1: why he met with Alex. So something came out of
Speaker 1: her making that call, even though Wall never took the
Speaker 1: step to tell tell the cops. He was just doing
Speaker 1: the Actually, he was just gonna do the welfare check himself.
Speaker 2: So nothing came of it then, because if he had
Speaker 2: told the cops, the story had been completely different to
Speaker 2: the cops and said, look, my teacher went to this
Speaker 2: person's house, but he didn't want to get his shit
Speaker 2: fucked up. But if he's like, oh, my teacher went
Speaker 2: to this kid's house. All of the windows are brought up,
Speaker 2: a newspaper, the parents are sitting on the couch just
Speaker 2: staring at the wall. I think y'all need to go
Speaker 2: over there. And the cops didn't do it. Also, we
Speaker 2: have to think about this. Y'all are putting all this
Speaker 2: burden on the on the on the on the teacher.
Speaker 2: Why have the cops never been to Alex's house?
Speaker 1: They did. They went when because said we got to
Speaker 1: clean this place up because police are coming. The day
Speaker 1: after everybody disappeared. They came and looked around the day
Speaker 1: after everybody. Yeah, yeah, they went there. But but I
Speaker 1: take that back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so now what, I guess I'm not adding the
Speaker 3: extra step of calling the cop. I think I think
Speaker 3: Wong in that particular instance, still thought that Juliet, Julie Julia,
Speaker 3: the teacher.
Speaker 1: Justine Justine.
Speaker 4: I still think he was very dismissed with Justine.
Speaker 3: But he still was going to at least just do
Speaker 3: his due diligence himself, and just at least because he
Speaker 3: told he said, all right, fine, I'll call the parents off,
Speaker 3: meet with the parents and do it.
Speaker 1: Just to check it off the box. That's crazy. I
Speaker 1: think I grew with Mike. But what else is boarded
Speaker 1: up with newspapers and the student and the and the
Speaker 1: and the adults are.
Speaker 2: Staring at the wall, and he doesn't call the cops.
Speaker 2: He says, I'll just call them in front of I
Speaker 2: just think I.
Speaker 1: Think he just no, I'm not.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is that I just don't think he
Speaker 3: takes he's he's fully invested in what she's saying. I
Speaker 3: think I think his thing is like, why the fuck
Speaker 3: are you still at the house when I told you
Speaker 3: not to go with the house.
Speaker 2: What makes y'all think anything would be different? If she
Speaker 2: even said anything about the name tags?
Speaker 1: They're not listening, No, no, no, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think my whole thing about the name tag is
Speaker 3: that I was like, that's a stupid thing to take
Speaker 3: because that's the obvious thing that we've been going missing,
Speaker 3: because she knows all the name tags were there.
Speaker 1: But it's so harmless. Though, as a kid, if you
Speaker 1: have someone who obviously looks at Justine like Wong looks
Speaker 1: at her, she could bring that to him and he
Speaker 1: could be completely dismissive of that as well. Exactly I
Speaker 1: think more so than the teacher. To Mike's point, it's
Speaker 1: Wong's job. What's that crazy ass lady come in here
Speaker 1: and tell me that these parents are what even when
Speaker 1: she came and the mom wasn't there and they was
Speaker 1: like he just suffered a stroke, they would know that, right,
Speaker 1: They wouldn't know like like nah, he ain't had no
Speaker 1: like something. What with this lady? It falls on long
Speaker 1: way more than me to contact the police, especially after
Speaker 1: that meeting, like before he leave out of his office.
Speaker 1: Hey man, my teacher went over there. She said a
Speaker 1: board it up. I tried to meet with the parents today.
Speaker 1: Some weird ass lady who said she was the aunt
Speaker 1: came being really irrational. Y'all need to go over to
Speaker 1: the house see what's going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not saying that any extra activity should have
Speaker 3: came out of her taking out of her observing that
Speaker 3: the tasks were missing. This is just me watching the
Speaker 3: movies like okay, well that's what she gonna notice tas
Speaker 3: are missing. That's all I'm saying, is like that that.
Speaker 3: That's my point about it. To your point is Alex
Speaker 3: is dumb. Yeah, like what you're gonna take the.
Speaker 1: Kids like eight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't she gonna know that, but you.
Speaker 1: Know, it was actually actually rather than getting caught stealing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it worked.
Speaker 4: And the other thing other than like, is that gonna
Speaker 4: even work?
Speaker 3: Because that's not really their peers, right, That was really
Speaker 3: my biggest question.
Speaker 4: I didn't think it was gonna work, and I didn't pay.
Speaker 1: Close enough attention. I just assumed that each kid.
Speaker 2: Maybe wrote their own name on the on the name tag,
Speaker 2: if the handwriting was the same or different, it was different.
Speaker 1: I don't I didn't, I didn't notice. Yeah, so anyways,
Speaker 1: but but real quick, when we can move on, I
Speaker 1: think to to wog Wong's lack of calling the cops
Speaker 1: also speaks to the multi the multitude of failures you
Speaker 1: can have and in these particular instances, and why things occur.
Speaker 1: Because Wan was told directly that something is weird instead
Speaker 1: of calling the cops. He didn't fully believe her, but
Speaker 1: he was like, well, I go just looking to it myself,
Speaker 1: because you fucking crazy anyway, and I told you not
Speaker 1: to do that. You did it anyway, everybody suspect you, so,
Speaker 1: but just to make sure the box is checked, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just go look and then if it's weird, then
Speaker 1: I'll call the cops, when he probably should have done both.
Speaker 1: He should have called the cops when it was weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was weird immediately. But this kind of goes to
Speaker 1: the stories that public teachers tell y'all, we told them.
Speaker 2: That something was wrong here, and they say every time,
Speaker 2: the fucking principle doesn't do anything, and then a school
Speaker 2: shooting happens and they're like, oh, we don't know what happened,
Speaker 2: and the teacher's like, bullshit, we fucking told y'all.
Speaker 1: So that's why I thought they didn't do a good
Speaker 1: job here, because we don't see that from her. I
Speaker 1: saw plenty from her because it came later, like I'm
Speaker 1: talking about when when the parents had questions and stuff,
Speaker 1: she was just like, I don't know, I'm just as
Speaker 1: surprised as you guys, And that's what really got them round.
Speaker 1: Oh sure at the beginning of the movie, but like
Speaker 1: once we get forty minutes into the film, we see
Speaker 1: that she is doing her responsibility. Yeah, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: disagreeing with that over loss of job. For I'm hugging
Speaker 1: kids and stuff like this, right they kid home.
Speaker 2: I hugged him because he was crying, but like, she's
Speaker 2: doing what she's supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't want your hugging kids. I don't want
Speaker 1: you to imagine that. Yeah, anyways, sorry, let's move on
Speaker 1: from y'all. I thought that was important because we talked
Speaker 1: about it in the beginning. Well, okay, well all right,
Speaker 1: so Spike, what did you think that Justine and Paul's fight?
Speaker 1: It was crazy like this, this is where it got
Speaker 1: chaotic for me. Well, not necessarily this, I'm comment on
Speaker 1: the next fight. But I figured that she would find
Speaker 1: a way to fend him off because I didn't think
Speaker 1: that she was going to die as the main character,
Speaker 1: so I just went out she was gonna kill him.
Speaker 1: I still thought she was gonna die, really, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: because I was like, I don't think anybody in this
Speaker 1: motherfucking movie is safe. So I was like, oh, she
Speaker 1: could die. She could totally die. But when he had
Speaker 1: her up on the wall and she was ship, she
Speaker 1: was fucking peeling his face. Man was crazy damn. And
Speaker 1: then she shot him and was like, going, she had
Speaker 1: to shoot him in the head. So I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is this is actually okay.
Speaker 2: So you didn't I know, Jalen, stop my fault. So
Speaker 2: we didn't you didn't really think that much about Justine
Speaker 2: and Paul's fight. Okay, so let's talk about Archer and
Speaker 2: James fight.
Speaker 1: Shit. That this great. It's great. By the fourth time
Speaker 1: he got up, I was like, okay, what what do
Speaker 1: you mean? Okay, I just it was too like at
Speaker 1: that point it became too chaotic. Oh. I like the
Speaker 1: complexity and the whole movie and the plot. Up until
Speaker 1: that point, it was like, Okay, this is getting a
Speaker 1: little bro. We were laughing. It was funny the first
Speaker 1: three times. Then after five six, I'm like, okay, bro,
Speaker 1: got was he was tossing his ass, brog. I like
Speaker 1: the fact he was like, God, damn man, that ship
Speaker 1: was so fucking it was bro.
Speaker 4: You was, man, what would you do?
Speaker 1: You keep talking? That motherfucker? He keep coming Like goddamn, Bro,
Speaker 1: what I would do? I would do the same thing,
Speaker 1: But I just didn't need it reiterated. It was so funny.
Speaker 1: It was funny. Four times, three times it was funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: damn right, Yeah, that ship was dope. That was dope.
Speaker 1: James starts choking Archer, but he's saved as Justine shoots him.
Speaker 1: In the back of the head.
Speaker 2: So then Archer finds all the kids in the basement,
Speaker 2: but he's attacked by Gladys. He's possessed and yeah when
Speaker 2: she just popped because I know she was down there,
Speaker 2: but yeah, he's sent after Justine to kill her. So
Speaker 2: while this is happening though, upstairs, Alex uses Gladys's trick,
Speaker 2: Ken shows how stupid he is.
Speaker 1: He learned the trick and he sends the.
Speaker 2: Kids after Gladness. So what did y'all think about? The
Speaker 2: scene where the kids are chasing Gladys down the street?
Speaker 1: Was good? This was my problem, Like, come on, not
Speaker 1: even the kids chasing that was kind of funny. But
Speaker 1: can anybody just do the speil? Yeah, I assume I
Speaker 1: know how to do it.
Speaker 2: I thought she was a witch though, but maybe maybe
Speaker 2: she is part of the bloodline and maybe that's why
Speaker 2: he can do it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't. I ain't like that anybody
Speaker 1: could just snap the thing and make it. Ain't like, well,
Speaker 1: if you got the ritual down, like you know, that's
Speaker 1: all which is witchcraft. I guess. Yeah, yeah, she ain't
Speaker 1: a witch that she was just practicing witchcraft. I didn't
Speaker 1: I didn't. I just didn't like it, Spike thinking too much.
Speaker 1: But because that's going on, Yeah, I guess now it's
Speaker 1: crazy too how she had him feeding everybody to keep
Speaker 1: him alive with soup and ship did did he see? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That was crazy. I think I caught that. Ye did
Speaker 1: he was? He was? I think she bringing the kid
Speaker 1: like the camel soups and stuff. You know.
Speaker 3: Did he see her throw the broken twig into the
Speaker 3: water to break there?
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think he saw that part. I don't
Speaker 1: think he Wait, how did the spell get broken? Oh no, no, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think he knew to do that. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I spilled broke when she died, right, yeah? Yeah, but man,
Speaker 1: bro this this was This is definitely one of the
Speaker 1: most satisfying and is that I've seen in a while,
Speaker 1: because sometimes they just get away or they get there's
Speaker 1: no actual revenge of retribution. Now, I thought this was dope.
Speaker 1: Seeing her fear and knowing what happened immediately and running
Speaker 1: and being chased by the very thing that she possessed
Speaker 1: was so fucking great. And the reactions of her going
Speaker 1: through every single house of the people in the houses,
Speaker 1: to people coming through was he's a man in the
Speaker 1: kitchen man when they just because I'm like you, there's
Speaker 1: no way, yo, that's gonna keep out running these damn kids.
Speaker 1: This man scene was perfect. I was gonna say that
Speaker 1: ship was crazy.
Speaker 2: Was in tears, and I can't even explain why it
Speaker 2: was funny. It just was these little kids.
Speaker 1: She jumped on her back. I was dying, man, that
Speaker 1: look girl hawked her down.
Speaker 2: Uh oh, this was the most satisfying ending. When they
Speaker 2: tore her ass apart. Yeah, oh man, this was so
Speaker 2: goddamn good. And they were eating her and shit, I
Speaker 2: was like Jesus fucking christ Man. But yeah, so the
Speaker 2: kids tear, Gladys is ass apart, which breaks the spell
Speaker 2: on everyone, and Archer finds Matthew, but Matthew's not coherent anymore.
Speaker 2: Justine finds Alex upstairs hugging his parents, but the parents
Speaker 2: aren't coherent anymore. And the little girl comes back and
Speaker 2: she says how the parents are still being spoon fed somewhere,
Speaker 2: and how only some of the kids started talking again,
Speaker 2: and that's where the film ends.
Speaker 1: I was so sad, but no happy ending.
Speaker 3: No, So you know it works because I thought once
Speaker 3: she was dead, the spell would be broken, and everybody
Speaker 3: returned back to normal. When I just saw the kids
Speaker 3: just standing there, I'm like, oh shit, which I guess
Speaker 3: makes sense because she and nobody dropped the twig in
Speaker 3: the water or whatever the spell bonding thing was in
Speaker 3: order to break it. So they and they don't know
Speaker 3: to do that, but technically nobody dropped the twig in
Speaker 3: the water to free Archer. Either wasn't He wasn't under
Speaker 3: the possession for that long.
Speaker 1: It was very short, kind of like bed rest, you know,
Speaker 1: like when people on bed rest they can't fucking walk
Speaker 1: anymore because they've been on rest for so long.
Speaker 4: So that's why you think he was able to spell
Speaker 4: broke on him.
Speaker 2: Yes, because he was. He was only possessed for a
Speaker 2: very short period of time. So I think it's I
Speaker 2: think it's kind of a statement on how a lot
Speaker 2: of times the way trauma works. You know, if these
Speaker 2: kids went through a lot of trauma, it's gonna last longer,
Speaker 2: and adults can get over trauma quicker. But if it's
Speaker 2: if it's a trauma involving your kid, the way Alex's
Speaker 2: parents went through, and they were directly involved, and they
Speaker 2: were possessed for a long time, then it's you know.
Speaker 1: What's the words were reversible? Yeah, and the parents were
Speaker 1: under Yeah.
Speaker 2: They were under a spell for a long time so
Speaker 2: they never recovered. But you could also look at it like, well,
Speaker 2: well it doesn't matter, we don't got to get that
Speaker 2: deep into it. But yeah, I thought it was a
Speaker 2: perfect ending.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, nah, it was sad, but I was like, damn, man,
Speaker 3: but nah, it makes total sense and no happy ending,
Speaker 3: so I'm cool with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It took me on my ride home to even think
Speaker 2: about the school shooting angle because Barbarian again was really good,
Speaker 2: but you had to figure out, okay, what was the
Speaker 2: message here? And then that made the movie really good
Speaker 2: for me or even better or whatever.
Speaker 1: This one.
Speaker 2: I was just like, I don't understand what the fuck
Speaker 2: is going on. Maybe this is just a even without
Speaker 2: the message. I think this works works very well even
Speaker 2: if it's just a regular ass horror movie about a witch.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this works perfectly, But I was stuck on
Speaker 2: why the fuck is there an ar fifteen? Then I
Speaker 2: started thinking about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think this was a sort of commentary on
Speaker 1: the way school shootings work and the way trauma works.
Speaker 3: But yeah, weapons using that's why they're called weapons. Adults
Speaker 3: is using an adult as a weapon, using the kids
Speaker 3: as a weapon.
Speaker 4: Do you think that he put that.
Speaker 1: Gun in there just to make sure that people got
Speaker 1: it for those that probably missed it in Barbaras. I
Speaker 1: think so.
Speaker 2: I think so because a lot of people totally missed
Speaker 2: the point in Barbarian, including me. A lot of people
Speaker 2: missed it, So I think he was trying to make
Speaker 2: it very clear this time. And yeah, of course I
Speaker 2: was thinking about why they call weapons. But then you
Speaker 2: look at how when a school shooting happens, everything's weaponized
Speaker 2: by the right and the left. You know, the left
Speaker 2: do it in that we gotta start talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: law changes.
Speaker 1: Right now, and then the right is like, there are
Speaker 1: no law changes.
Speaker 2: This is just a bad guy with a gun, and
Speaker 2: the the fix for that is a good guy with
Speaker 2: a gun. So it's always this thing of like using kids,
Speaker 2: especially with trauma, as weapons for your own political idea.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I thought this was an excellent film. So
Speaker 2: does anybody have any any final thoughts?
Speaker 1: No, I know he actually saw the Josh Brolin's character
Speaker 1: actually said something about the way the children I'm being
Speaker 1: weaponized or whatever he said it was. I can't remember
Speaker 1: his actual quote, but it was like the hook of
Speaker 1: the movie when he said it, I felt like so,
Speaker 1: but I've still left the little bit wondering. Okay, the
Speaker 1: motive behind the Witch? What do you mean? Like I
Speaker 1: get she like like I said, I get that she
Speaker 1: needed to I guess wanted to live longer or whatever.
Speaker 1: I get all of that. I was just I just
Speaker 1: never got like, why did she picked her own family
Speaker 1: to do that with like that? That that just never
Speaker 1: made made sense to me. I just always look at
Speaker 1: as witches are very selfish, especially if she is like
Speaker 1: Spike said, if that is correct by her being eight
Speaker 1: hundred years old, then she just picked a random family.
Speaker 1: And that's the way it works.
Speaker 2: I mean, just the whole situation was the same thing
Speaker 2: in the movie The Witch, whereas the Witch was like
Speaker 2: killing and eating children in order to live longer, which
Speaker 2: that's an old handling grillel. Yeah, it's like that's an
Speaker 2: old folk lore with that's how witches work, if they
Speaker 2: eat kids or they consume kids in order to live longer.
Speaker 1: So they just carried this in here. That's what it was.
Speaker 1: I was wondering why she wasn't eating the kids and
Speaker 1: what and how was she getting that energy by them
Speaker 1: just being there? So that that's what I left with
Speaker 1: because I always known that how that be the not trope,
Speaker 1: I guess the folk lore or whatever that they have
Speaker 1: to eat the kids, and that wasn't happening. So I
Speaker 1: was just like, okay, so how was she getting this?
Speaker 1: So that's where the comparisons came in, like she was
Speaker 1: taking over their brain, Like that's why they put those
Speaker 1: two examples as far as what they was watching the
Speaker 1: class and what they was watching a bit of consumption
Speaker 1: assumption is it's just she was using energy. Okay, thank you?
Speaker 1: So yeah, that makes it make more sense to me, know,
Speaker 1: got it? All right? Anybody else? Well, all right? Amount
Speaker 1: of all hard clear open, all right. Well that was
Speaker 1: our review.
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