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Speaker 1: Why from ball Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. It is Tony Katz today, and

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Speaker 2: I am in the heartland as well. One stayed over

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Speaker 2: from where I know Tony makes his home. He makes

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Speaker 2: it in Indianapolis. I know he makes that no secret.

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Speaker 2: I make my home in Illinois. My name is Mike Coolidge.

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Speaker 2: I have filled in before for the Great Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: I also did a radio show on my own right

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Speaker 2: for fifteen years. That's how Tony and I got to

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Speaker 2: know each other. I did the Michael Coolidge Show and

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Speaker 2: retired from that specifically to run for Congress, and I've

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Speaker 2: been working behind the scenes in the political arena since then.

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Speaker 2: But I do miss radio. I do miss talking with

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Speaker 2: the country. It's so wonderful and it's so great. And

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Speaker 2: the last time I filled in for the Great Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: it was a really great show. I got a lot

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Speaker 2: of great feedback from listeners, had some great guess I

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Speaker 2: say it was a good show because of my guests

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Speaker 2: and the discussions we had, not of course, from my

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Speaker 2: brilliance and my talent, but it was a really fun

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Speaker 2: show on this and I think it was Mark Hemingway,

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Speaker 2: Ellie Buffkin, and we had a oh Kerry Pickett at

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Speaker 2: the very end. And at the very end of the

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Speaker 2: show there was a final segment. It's a short one,

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Speaker 2: the very last segment of the show. And when that occurred,

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Speaker 2: this was on September tenth, and Landon, the producer talked

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Speaker 2: in my ear and told me that Charlie Kirkie been shot.

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Speaker 2: And I did not have my TV on in my

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Speaker 2: immediately did go to X to see how bad it was,

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Speaker 2: and of course it was terrible, and a couple of

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Speaker 2: hours later we found out he of course perished. And

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Speaker 2: I bring this up today because that moment was the

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Speaker 2: only assassination that has happened in most of our lifetimes

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Speaker 2: if you were under what sixty years old, seventy years old,

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Speaker 2: the late sixties, and we've had this discussion for weeks

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Speaker 2: after it's happened. Now, what is it we're going on?

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Speaker 2: We just passed the two month mark when this happened.

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Speaker 2: And we had assassinations in the sixties that seemed to

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Speaker 2: happened every other year. We had JFK, we had his

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Speaker 2: brother RFK, we had Malcolm X, we had Martin Luther

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Speaker 2: King Junior. Those assassinations were all successful from the assassin's standpoint.

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Speaker 2: We had assassination attempts numerous times in the seventies and

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Speaker 2: in the eighties, but none of us alive. Really, I

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Speaker 2: shouldn't say live. I know our older listeners, our baby boomers,

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Speaker 2: vividly remembered the sixties and those terrible assassination assassinations of

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Speaker 2: for someone to be murdered in front of the world,

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Speaker 2: really specifically because of his political beliefs, was something that

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Speaker 2: I know is still shocking thinking about it over two

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Speaker 2: months later. We've also seen the amazing, amazing grace and

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Speaker 2: just honor that his wife, Erica has shown the world,

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Speaker 2: and how she's handled this. We've seen so many people

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Speaker 2: come out of the woodwork, really who used to who

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Speaker 2: it back for a lot of reasons from expressing it publicly,

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Speaker 2: because we all know what happens when you express your

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Speaker 2: And by the way, it hit home for a lot

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Speaker 2: of people where I live, because Charlie Kirk was born

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Speaker 2: and raised in Illinois, and he started Turning Point USA

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Speaker 2: this amazing and amazingly influential organization that has only blossomed

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Speaker 2: He was such a normal person. Frankly, wasn't one of

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Speaker 2: people I like, this has happened. You know, they're one

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Speaker 2: you know whatever. He was just the most affable, congenial

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Speaker 2: us that we can express our viewpoints publicly and have rational,

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Speaker 2: civil dialogues with people and maybe, just maybe we might

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Speaker 2: change minds, we might get through to people. He would

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Speaker 2: And often it was live. It was not going back,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean the bravery again to put your

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Speaker 2: up for scrutiny publicly. That can go wrong. That you know,

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Speaker 2: people can humiliate you. They might bring up a factoid

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Speaker 2: an idiot. I'm saying anyone. Charlie Kirk was very, very

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Speaker 2: difficult to make look like an idiot. He never looked

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Speaker 2: like an idiot. He was a brilliant, brilliant guy. But

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Speaker 2: might change your mind? I might also make your arguments stronger.

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Speaker 2: He showed that that can be done, and he did it,

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Speaker 2: and he did it for years, and he taught other

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Speaker 2: I still miss rush Limbaugh listening to a guy talk

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Speaker 2: on the air for three straight hours, almost exclusively, just

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Speaker 2: him and callers, no guests, very rarely did he have guests.

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Speaker 2: so much of that has to do with Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 2: and what he had comp pushed. Why Because for the

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Speaker 2: last decade plus he spoke to young people. He spoke

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Speaker 2: And they saw a guy put his viewpoints and philosophies

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Speaker 2: much content that we're going to hear Charlie Kirk and

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Speaker 2: country proudly. And when it was released and the news

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Speaker 2: Like many tragedies in the past, there is good that

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Speaker 2: has come out of Charlie Kirk's death is people are

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Speaker 2: a lot more inspired in bold to express their viewpoints

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Speaker 2: You start speaking up you say, wait, what, No, that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: That kind of thing I've seen happen a lot more

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Speaker 4: also have the right not to get shot by sharing

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Speaker 2: What she tried to do there was what they And

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Speaker 2: again she's an old, old, old media type and this

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Speaker 2: will work for years on Today's Show, you know, this

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Speaker 2: putting it out there as the narrative that Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 2: which is a Hey, Charlie Kirk didn't do that. The

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Speaker 2: something that we all kind of agreed with. Sixty seventy

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Speaker 2: Research polls about you know, do you believe far left

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Speaker 2: Do you believe that we have a god given right

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Speaker 2: We have a right to freely speak. And that is

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Speaker 2: quote unquote civilized countries like jolly Old England and Germany.

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Speaker 2: road leads to when we limit people's free speech. Charlie

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Speaker 2: others would love to do. And anyway, I know, we

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Speaker 2: got to take a break. Care let me finish this

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Speaker 2: thought on the other side of it. This is Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today. I am Mike cool Which filling Anfertoni. Stay

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Speaker 2: with us. Yes, yes, I am not in control all

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Speaker 2: I'm my Coolidge filling in for Tony. I believe Tony

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Speaker 2: will be back on Monday. Let me just wrap this

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk and his influence. Last time I filled in

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Speaker 2: for Tony Kasts was on September tenth of this year

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Speaker 2: is Dave. Charlie Kirk was murdered, was assassinated, and the

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Speaker 2: effects of the change that we've all gone through as

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Speaker 2: changed how we consume everything. There was no one better

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Speaker 2: and an effect that he did. The point is, we

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Speaker 2: get out there and change people's minds and motivate simultaneously,

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Speaker 2: motivate people who do share our values, you know, to

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Speaker 2: legacy establishment media anymore, the Katie Kirk types or the

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Speaker 2: you know, the equivalent of I don't even know who

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Speaker 6: We don't.

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Speaker 2: Those gatekeepers are irrelevant now. We don't need to get

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Speaker 2: beyond their gate We've got our own things behind our gates.

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Speaker 2: The establishment media still has power, they still have influence,

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. They still reach millions and millions

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Speaker 2: of people. But they don't have the critical mass anymore.

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Speaker 2: They don't have that like majority, they don't have that power.

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Speaker 2: We need to make sure that they never get it again.

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Speaker 2: How do we ensure that by continuing to speak up,

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Speaker 2: by continuing to be like Charlie Kirk. This is Tony

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Tony Cats Today. This is Mike Coolidge

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Speaker 2: filling in for Tony Katz. Coolidge is spelled with a

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Speaker 2: in our house. We just are fostering a blind cat

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Speaker 2: I swear, but it's a really really cute little cat,

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Speaker 2: no eyes in them whatsoever. About seven weeks old. Com

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Speaker 2: cutest can be anyway. That's what's going on in our

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Speaker 2: world in the in the in the world of Washington,

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Speaker 2: d C. They had this shut down. You probably heard

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Speaker 2: What was that all for. There's a piece in Real

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Speaker 2: Clear Politics Today by j Peter Zain. Shut down just

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Speaker 2: the latest battle in democrats long warning kind of gets

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Speaker 2: into a little bit we talked about in the last

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Speaker 2: hour about how the DC establishment, the New York establishment,

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Speaker 2: the coastal elite establishment that used to say, hey, this

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Speaker 2: on in the world right now. This is a scandal,

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Speaker 2: but that's not a scandal. That world no longer exists,

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Speaker 2: and that's a good thing. J. Peter Zain. The Democrats

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Speaker 2: never miss a beat. The moment their effort to blame

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Speaker 2: Trump for the government shutdown went poof, they resurrected Jeffrey

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Speaker 2: Epstein to suggest the president is a pedophile. Of course,

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Speaker 2: the shockingly ugly Epstein smear has no more to do

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Speaker 2: with morality than the Democrat engineered shutdown did with saving

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Speaker 2: Obamacare subsidies. The point is not the policy, but the fight.

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Speaker 2: Both are just the party's latest savos in their long

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Speaker 2: war against Trump and our political norms, one whose major

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Speaker 2: battlefields have included the Russia Gate hoax, the two impeachments

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Speaker 2: of Trump, the string of dubious cases aimed at destroying

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Speaker 2: the former president, and the aggressive law fair aimed at

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Speaker 2: anyone who questioned the outcome of the twenty twenty Actually,

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Speaker 2: remember that I rememan for Congress in Illinois in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two and late twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: and man, wow, where the questions from the the mainstream

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Speaker 2: seem to be about January sixth? January sixth, January sixth.

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Speaker 2: What do you? I mean, what do you think about

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Speaker 2: the election?

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Speaker 7: Was that?

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Speaker 8: Was that?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 2: Are you questioning the results of the election. Yes, we're

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Speaker 2: allowed to question anything the government does, ever, including conducting elections.

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Speaker 2: The last I checked the government. Yes, local governments, state governments,

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Speaker 2: they conduct elections, and if they mess up or they

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Speaker 2: do things weird or they don't follow the regulations, yeah

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Speaker 2: we should question them. Remember that whole campaign to stop

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Speaker 2: people from merely questioning election results, just like the COVID craziness.

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Speaker 2: We can never ever let that happen again. Yes, we

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Speaker 2: can always question election results and we can protest about

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Speaker 2: election results too. Can we throw things through windows and

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Speaker 2: break doors that we're not supposed to go into? No,

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Speaker 2: and we face consequences for that, just like we do

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Speaker 2: if I did it at my local county government right now,

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Speaker 2: throw me in jail if I break a law. But

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Speaker 2: you can't throw me in jail for standing on a

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Speaker 2: public mall and and expressing my viewpoint about something the

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Speaker 2: government specifically did or didn't do. Anyway, back to this piece,

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Speaker 2: politics has never been being bag famous quote from Illinois's

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Speaker 2: own David Axelrod. But the Democrats and their supporters are

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Speaker 2: pursuing something altogether different. They have lost the capacity to

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Speaker 2: accept defeat and seek change within the system. Instead, their

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Speaker 2: leaders pursue underhanded strategies to recap their opponents and undermine

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Speaker 2: faith in the institutions of governments. Almost a little insurrectiony, there,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. They claim Trump is an authoritarian when he

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Speaker 2: seeks to exercise the authority of his office, as he

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Speaker 2: violates the dictator's playbook by allowing the courts to decide

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Speaker 2: whether his actions are constitutional. They lambassed rulings that support

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Speaker 2: his actions as more evidence of his unbridled appetite for power.

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Speaker 2: It's the politics of heads. I win, tails, you lose.

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Speaker 2: Ginned up by leaders who compare Trump to Hitler and

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Speaker 2: Republicans as an existential threat to America, Democratic voters do

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Speaker 2: not wait for the next election to try to move

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Speaker 2: the needle. Instead, they and pretty much only they threaten

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Speaker 2: with startling regularity. Protest is a hallowed right, but it

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Speaker 2: also involves levels of anger and intimidation that plain old

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Speaker 2: debate and discourse do not. It is why some peaceful

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Speaker 2: protests and in violence and a healthy nation and a

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Speaker 2: healthy mind, taking to the streets is a last resort,

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Speaker 2: not a knee jerk response to anything and everything we

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Speaker 2: disagree with. By the way, looking at the Fox News

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Speaker 2: reports now just today, there's more mayhem in my state

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Speaker 2: with these idiots who are trying to stop the government

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Speaker 2: from doing its job in apprehendi illegal aliens here in

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Speaker 2: the United States. By the way, next hour, we're going

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Speaker 2: to speak with a man named Joe Abraham who lost

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Speaker 2: his beautiful daughter, Katie Abraham to a drunk driving illegal

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Speaker 2: alien last year. And the operation Midway Blitz that is

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Speaker 2: occurring as we speak, that the American people voted for,

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Speaker 2: by the way, in twenty twenty four and we the

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Speaker 2: American public, have a responsibility to let the government that

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Speaker 2: we voted for enact the policies that we voted for,

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Speaker 2: not stop them from doing that. That's against the law.

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Speaker 2: There's a congresswoman or a congressional candidate here in Illinois

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Speaker 2: who faces up to twenty years in prison for physically

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Speaker 2: blocking ICE from doing its job. She is a lot

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Speaker 2: of legal experts saying she's going to get in trouble anyway,

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Speaker 2: like real trouble that's happening. They're still trying to stop

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Speaker 2: the government from doing its job. Back to this peace,

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Speaker 2: even as they eviscerate Yeah, I'm sorry, in a healthy nation,

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Speaker 2: in a healthy mind, taking to the streets as the

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Speaker 2: last resort, not in need your response to anything and

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Speaker 2: everything we disagree with. It is the politics of the

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Speaker 2: temper tantrum captured in the headline of a recent Year

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Speaker 2: Times article why screaming is all the rage? Even as

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Speaker 2: they eviscerate national norms, Democrats and their allies in the

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Speaker 2: legacy media insistently twist the truth to gaslight the people

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Speaker 2: for their partisan ends. For the latest proof, look no

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Speaker 2: further than polls that showed voters were at least as

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Speaker 2: likely to blame Republicans as Democrats for the shutdown, given

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Speaker 2: the clear evidence Republicans had voted fifteen times to reopen

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Speaker 2: the government. This result was a flight from reality. Unless

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Speaker 2: one believes that Democrats the main must always be met,

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Speaker 2: then any GOP opposition to Democrats aims is obstruction. On Monday,

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Speaker 2: when eight Democrat senators proved the lie by breaking the

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Speaker 2: a dime memory, wiping its previous descriptions of a bipartisan

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Speaker 2: impass to assail those who forged to compromise. The Associated

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Speaker 2: Press Press ran mugshots of the eight defectors. A political

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Speaker 2: headline quoted one Democrat who called their actions a complete betrayal,

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Speaker 2: while the New York Times reported that Democrats are universally

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Speaker 2: furious at the eight senators who helped broker the shutdown

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Speaker 2: ending deal. Those stories may be news, but they are

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Speaker 2: also a warning to future peacemakers, as Democrat Senator Chris

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Speaker 2: Murphy has already suggested his party might shut down the

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Speaker 2: government when the current deal expires in two months if

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Speaker 2: they don't get their way. Bring it on, Chris, Murphy

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Speaker 2: try again. Such biased coverage is a major reason so

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Speaker 2: many Americans have lost faith in another pillar of our democracy,

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Speaker 2: a former pillar, I would say, a free and fair press.

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Speaker 2: The media's replacement of facts with talking points helps explain

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Speaker 2: why it is so hard to have meaningful conversations across

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Speaker 2: the partisan divide. The shutdown may be over, but the

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Speaker 2: Democrats war on the norms of our democracy marches on

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Speaker 2: feeling chesty after their electoral victories. On November fourth, party

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Speaker 2: influencers and leaders once again talked openly about their desire

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Speaker 2: to rig the system to get their way. Strategist James

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Speaker 2: Carvel predicted his party would retake the White House in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight and immediately moves to add four new

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Speaker 2: seats to the Supreme Court, instantly creating a liberal majority.

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Speaker 2: Atlantic columnist Jonathan Chait once again flow to the argument

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Speaker 2: for ending the sell Senate filibuster, which would allow Democrats

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Speaker 2: to pass monumental legislation, including adding Washington, DC, and Puerto

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Speaker 2: Rico as states with a bear majority. Does anyone doubt

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Speaker 2: the first order of business if Democrats retake the House

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six would be impeaching Trump once again.

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Speaker 2: So again, what I'm talking about, like getting out voters

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Speaker 2: who voted only for Trump the last three presidential elections

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Speaker 2: but don't come out in the midterms. We gotta get

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Speaker 2: you guys out, you gotta vote, You gotta gotta do it,

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Speaker 2: or this is going to happen. The Democrats will do it,

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Speaker 2: and they're not representing the country by the way. They're

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Speaker 2: not representing that. It is not an accurate representation of

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Speaker 2: the country when Democrats who are really really good at

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Speaker 2: voting and getting people. I saw a really funny bumper

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Speaker 2: sticure the other day. It said I'm sure I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: get wrong, but it said something like when I die,

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Speaker 2: please don't make me vote Democrat. That's an old, old

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Speaker 2: old thing here in the Chicago Land, Illinois area, with

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Speaker 2: dead people voting anyway. This piece concludes, Finally, supporters of

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Speaker 2: institutional norms might feel the nation dodged a bullet when

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Speaker 2: Republicans dismissed Trump's call to scrap the filibuster to reopen

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Speaker 2: the government. But given the Democrats commitment to achieve their

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Speaker 2: aims by any means necessary, one wonders if principled stands

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Speaker 2: are becoming a form of unilateral disarmament, j Peters Ain

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Speaker 2: in real clear politics. So Jadie Vance was on Hannity

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Speaker 2: I believe last night really good interview. I got two clips.

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Speaker 2: First one is about the shutdown and Chuck Schumer's fate.

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Speaker 8: Let's play that Chuck Schumer, this probably ended his career

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Speaker 8: and he was the person who was fighting more than

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Speaker 8: anybody to keep the government shut down. So the far left,

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Speaker 8: they're never going to be satisfied unless the Democrats are

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Speaker 8: willing to burn down the entire country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've seen that they don't have a problem

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Speaker 2: burning down the country. They don't have a problem causing

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Speaker 2: mayhem and chaos and violence if they don't get their way.

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Speaker 2: And the media is arm in arm with them, hand

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Speaker 2: in hand, some of them marching in the same protests.

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Speaker 2: You remember back in twenty twenty, it seems like eons ago.

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Speaker 2: Now you had actual anchors on the news, you know,

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Speaker 2: CE and n types, like literally marching with the George

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Speaker 2: Floyd writers with their cameras and like, you know, not

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Speaker 2: covering the news, being participants in the news. And then

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Speaker 2: that famous an end reporter speaking in front of a

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Speaker 2: fire exploding in the background of violence and chaos and

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Speaker 2: Mayhem saying, Hey, you know, it's mostly peaceful protests. It's

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Speaker 2: mostly peaceful. Yeah, mostly peaceful. That kind of chaos and

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Speaker 2: violence and insanity can come back in an instant if

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Speaker 2: we don't continue to win elections and get people out

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Speaker 2: to vote. I'm gonna take a break. On the other

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Speaker 2: side of it, I have another clip from Jade Vance

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Speaker 2: talking about a really important issue that is going to

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Speaker 2: If we don't talk about it, it might result in

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Speaker 2: us losing the House next year, maybe even the Senate.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you what it is after this. On Tony

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Speaker 2: Kats Today, I am Mike Coolidge filling in for Tony.

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Speaker 2: Stay with us. We're back on Tony Katz Today. Mike

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Speaker 2: Cooliage spelled with the K filling in for Tony. Let

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Speaker 2: me Tony. We'll be back on Monday. I hope you're

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Speaker 2: having a wonderful Friday here in the greatest country in

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Speaker 2: the world, right smack dab in the middle of it.

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Speaker 2: We are. And before the break, we played the first

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Speaker 2: clip of JD Evans on Hannity last night. The second

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Speaker 2: clip is talking about something that we need to have

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Speaker 2: a plan for. When I say we, I mean the right,

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Speaker 2: I mean Republicans, I mean conservatives, I mean we cannot

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Speaker 2: rest on our laurels for these midterms. We can't do it.

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Speaker 2: We voted for Trump in twenty sixteen, in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, A lot of us only voted

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Speaker 2: those three times, didn't vote in the municipal elections, didn't

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Speaker 2: vote in the midterms. We got to vote every single

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Speaker 2: time or the left will take back power. They're doing

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Speaker 2: it in these big cities. I know they're already blue.

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Speaker 2: I know they're already you know, Democrat super heavy, but

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Speaker 2: far leftists far left is there was just yes or

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Speaker 2: just this morning it was announced a socialist, a Democrat, socialist, communist,

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Speaker 2: Marxist is taking over Seattle. She barely beat another Democrat

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Speaker 2: there a normal Democrat, the few of them that are

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Speaker 2: still left. So you got a Mum Danny on the

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Speaker 2: West coast at Seattle and Mum Danny on the obviously

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Speaker 2: in New York City, biggest city in the country. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Here is and why did they win? Here is jd

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Speaker 2: Vance talking about affordability.

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Speaker 8: The most important way to fix this affordability crisis is

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Speaker 8: to make people's wages go up, and that is where

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Speaker 8: the Trump economy, I think, just objectively, obviously I'm very biased,

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Speaker 8: but I think objectively is doing better than any economy

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Speaker 8: in fifty.

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Speaker 2: Or sixty years.

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Speaker 8: Blue collar wages are going up, working people's wages, middle

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Speaker 8: class wages.

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Speaker 2: Are going up.

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Speaker 8: And that's how we ultimately ship away at the Biden

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Speaker 8: affordability crisis, is that we make an economy where people

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Speaker 8: can afford to buy the things that they need. The

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Speaker 8: best way to do that is good jobs and good wages.

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Speaker 8: And that's why the President's focus is where it is.

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Speaker 2: He's right, of course, they did inherit this awful Biden economy,

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Speaker 2: of course, but there's three things beyond just prices of

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Speaker 2: like coffee and butter and groceries that are causing I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of young people to look at these

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Speaker 2: Marxist communists and saying, huh, what are they all about? Oh, well,

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Speaker 2: they give them a shot. The three things the affordability

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Speaker 2: of housing, the affordability of healthcare, and yes, the cost

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Speaker 2: of higher education student loan debt. These young people talking

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Speaker 2: about people under forty people are not much younger than

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Speaker 2: definitely people Jade Vance's age and younger. Basically, these are

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Speaker 2: the problem is they don't understand why student loan debt

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Speaker 2: is so insane, why college university tuition is so insanely high.

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Speaker 2: They don't understand why healthcare health insurance is so insanely

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Speaker 2: high here in the United States. And they don't understand

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Speaker 2: why they can't afford the same houses, even if you

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Speaker 2: adjust for inflation, that their parents could afford when they

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Speaker 2: were first buying homes and they were the same age.

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Speaker 2: They don't understand it. So they hear these Marxist communists

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Speaker 2: come up with a solution for it, and they don't

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Speaker 2: hear a whole lot from our side on what we

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Speaker 2: can do to make those numbers go down, to make

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Speaker 2: affordability a thing. And we know we have the solutions,

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Speaker 2: We know we have the right answers. We don't express

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Speaker 2: them enough though, We don't make the arguments. Back to

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Speaker 2: what I was talking about the first hour, if you

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Speaker 2: didn't join us, we have the time and the space

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Speaker 2: and the mediums now to bring people to our side,

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Speaker 2: to educate, to inform why conservatism, why capitalism ultimately leads

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Speaker 2: to less people being in poverty, ultimately leads yes to

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Speaker 2: a rising tide raising all ships. We need to not

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Speaker 2: just call the communism and the Marxism insanity. We need

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Speaker 2: to show why our policies are better. We'll get into

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Speaker 2: that with any scary from the Federalist after this on

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today, this is Mike Cole Jim for Tony.

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Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. We're back on Tony Katz today. I

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Speaker 2: am not Tony Katz. I am Mike Coolidge. And this

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Speaker 2: is one of my former bumper songs, bumper music songs

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Speaker 2: on my old radio show. Been off the air for

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Speaker 2: about three years now. It's so very involved in politics

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes, but I do miss radio coming on

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Speaker 2: every day. I do some filling work here and there

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Speaker 2: in Chicago and elsewhere, but honored to be on filling

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Speaker 2: in for Tony Katz again here in the great Midwest,

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Speaker 2: United States of America. And before the break we were

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Speaker 2: talking about affordability and how if the Republicans are not smart,

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Speaker 2: if they're not on the ball, if they don't counter

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Speaker 2: this leftist move to make our country communist, Marxist, socialist,

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Speaker 2: which seems to be resonating. That viewpoint is definitely resonating

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Speaker 2: in some of these big cities New York City. Just

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Speaker 2: last night in Seattle, they crowned a socialist Marxist out there,

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Speaker 2: the new mayor there. She barely squeaked by the opponent,

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Speaker 2: who was a Democrat, by like half a percentage point

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Speaker 2: or something. So they have a Mumdannie, a female Mamdani

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Speaker 2: in Seattle now beautiful city, Love Seattle, New York City,

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Speaker 2: the biggest city in the country. Marxist socialist and the

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Speaker 2: people that voted for them are wrong. But they and

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Speaker 2: are they being at least exposed to the alternative viewpoint,

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Speaker 2: which is that capitalism and conservative policy leads to less

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Speaker 2: people being poor, you being able to afford groceries, you

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Speaker 2: having a better paying job, you being able to afford healthcare,

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Speaker 2: you being able to afford a new home. That viewpoint

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Speaker 2: on our side, quote unquote is not being articulated enough.

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Speaker 2: And Eddie Scary from the Federalist who's to come on

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Speaker 2: my old radio show regularly wrote a great piece in

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Speaker 2: it about that today. I think it's a little a

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Speaker 2: little harsh on President Trump, but he thinks Jady Vance

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Speaker 2: is good at expressing this anyway. Eddie Scary joins us

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Speaker 2: right now. Eddie, welcome on to Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 3: Hello, happy to be with you again.

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Speaker 2: Mike, Yeah, it's been a while. I still read your stuff.

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Speaker 2: Still a big fan when I get into your book

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Speaker 2: later too, which is a very you know, nice calm

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Speaker 2: title talking about the Democrats. But firstly, let's get into

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Speaker 2: this affordability thing. You have this piece of the Federals today.

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Speaker 2: Trump should learn from JD. Vance when it comes to

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Speaker 2: talking about prices and affordability, make make make your arguments.

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Speaker 9: Well. I, like a lot of right wingers, over the

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Speaker 9: past week and in recent days, was pretty appalled to

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Speaker 9: see the President saying publicly things that sounded a lot

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Speaker 9: like the last administration and what the media was saying

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Speaker 9: last time around under Joe Biden, which is just lying

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Speaker 9: to the American public with their face, telling them that

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Speaker 9: everything's fine when everything is not fine.

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Speaker 3: And obviously we're still this.

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Speaker 9: Administration is still young, if it's his second term, but

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Speaker 9: he's still not too far in it. We're not even

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Speaker 9: really a year into it. And yet still now is

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Speaker 9: not the time to do a victory laugh, which is

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Speaker 9: what it has felt a lot like the President has

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Speaker 9: been doing. And as I write in my piece, I

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Speaker 9: don't think any of his voters but grudge him indulging

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Speaker 9: in the trappings of his position, you know, the stuff

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Speaker 9: he's doing with the with the White House or renovations,

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00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 9: it's really not a big deal. In fact, I think

861
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Speaker 9: that a lot of people agree with him that the

862
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 9: White House, these renovations, the ballroom, the rose garden, all those.

863
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 3: Types of things. And yet we expect to return also on.

864
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 9: Our on our investment from the last election, which was

865
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 9: giving him the keys, giving him the keys again.

866
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 3: And what we.

867
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Speaker 9: Expect is to hear day in and day out, what

868
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 9: you are going to do to fix this mess that

869
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 9: we found ourselves in over the previous four years. It's

870
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,959
Speaker 9: not over. And if you want, if you you know, again,

871
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 9: he's the president of the United States. He does need

872
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 9: to be meeting with world leaders again. This preoccupation with

873
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 9: this ballroom and meeting with his billionaire donors who are

874
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Speaker 9: funding this ballroom. That's all fine and good, but we

875
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 9: should you should be able to do both things at

876
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 9: the same time. And not only that, but when you're

877
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 9: asked about it, don't say I.

878
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 3: Don't want to hear about affordability. Don't say, actually.

879
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 9: The prices on everything are down, when that is not true.

880
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 9: And he likes talking a lot about these about the

881
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 9: gas prices dropping, which is that is true, and I

882
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 9: think everyone's grateful for that. And yet at the same

883
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 9: time time home energy prices are going up, so it

884
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 9: pretty much nullifies any any benefit we're getting there. But

885
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 9: at least we did have JD. Vance who only just

886
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 9: about two weeks.

887
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: Ago, two weeks ago, who's an interview.

888
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 9: With the New York Post Miranda Levigne or Divine Divine,

889
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 9: and he.

890
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 3: Said all the right things, which is.

891
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, we knew that this is going to be hard.

892
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 9: Everything isn't great. We're still working on it. We have

893
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 9: chipped away on it, which is true. Again, it is true.

894
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 9: Certain prices have fallen, and certain prices have fallen in

895
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 9: at a very least certain price on things have solved

896
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 9: that they're not they're at least not going any higher.

897
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 9: But he said, we still have a lot of work

898
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 9: to do and we're going to keep going. Okay, that's

899
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 9: a good start. And yet we also expect the president

900
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 9: to be telling us what are we going to be

901
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 9: doing about car insurance because a lot of this does

902
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 9: there are government solutions to these things.

903
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 3: There's all these.

904
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 9: Regulations, all this money that's just going just being pushed

905
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 9: out the door from the government to all these people,

906
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 9: all these industries and regulators in places that don't need it,

907
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 9: and there are things that can be done about that.

908
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 9: At least tell us what's the plan. What's the plan

909
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 9: for what you're gonna do with car insurance, which is up.

910
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 9: I think it's like fifty percent since twenty nineteen twelve,

911
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 9: or thirteen percent since just last year. These are real

912
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 9: problems that's just squeezing everyone. I don't know about you, Mike,

913
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 9: but I was thinking this morning, does it not feel

914
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 9: like you're hearing about all these people that are getting

915
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 9: money and they're not providing any kind of real, real

916
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 9: service for you, And yet it just seems as if

917
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 9: money is just being taken out of your pocket and

918
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 9: going to certain people, and yet everyone still feels like

919
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 9: they're getting squeezed and they're getting poorer. So that's the

920
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 9: case I'm making this piece. You know, at a minimum,

921
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 9: we don't want the president going on TV and saying

922
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 9: I don't want to hear about that.

923
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a very crude line, but I think it's

924
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 2: appropriate here about you know, don't pee on my leg

925
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 2: and tell me that it's raining. And that's been one

926
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 2: of the things that you know, Biden was rightfully criticized

927
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 2: for and I think one of the reasons he lost

928
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 2: various other ones, but you know why he didn't run

929
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 2: for reelection blah blah blah, was that, yeah, don't say

930
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: things are hunky dory when they're not. And Trump has

931
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 2: been good about, for example, with tariffs, especially early on

932
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 2: saying and being you know, leveling with the American people saying, look, yeah,

933
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 2: prices on some of this stuff might go up a

934
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Speaker 2: little bit before they get better. Advance had a great line,

935
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Speaker 2: I think it was on Hannity last night where he said,

936
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 2: you know, we've planted the crops, we got to wait

937
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 2: a little bit for them to grow. So I think

938
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 2: your criticism is valid on Trump. If I were to

939
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 2: defend him, I would say he might be in the

940
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, he's always a cheerleader for

941
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 2: the president and his own administration, and it's you know,

942
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 2: it's him. He's cheerleading for himself, which is you know,

943
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 2: he's always been really really good at and I think

944
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: it's almost like a reflex for him to do that

945
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: and say, yeah, you know, things are are really great,

946
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: but but you're right, they this this affordability thing. And

947
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Speaker 2: this is where I think we really need to dial

948
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 2: into this. For this coming year, I mean less than

949
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 2: a year, people are going to go to the polls

950
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 2: to either keep Republicans in power in DC or put

951
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,959
Speaker 2: the Democrats back in charge. And if Republicans aren't making

952
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 2: the sort of arguments like jd Vance is explaining how

953
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 2: insanely stupid it is to have the government be the

954
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 2: solution for every problem, just throwing money at things. Uh.

955
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: And that is going to lead to prices going up,

956
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 2: not down. We are going to lose.

957
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think that to your to the point,

958
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 9: I didn't see the interview with Jeddie Vance, but this

959
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 9: this quote of him where he says, we planned the crops,

960
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 9: we're just waiting for them to grow.

961
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 3: Okay, keep going, you can. You can. You don't just

962
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 3: stop it.

963
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 9: You don't create like a small little garden and go okay,

964
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 9: well now we're just gonna wait. Now you can got

965
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 9: to water it. Yes, you keep going. What's the next one. Okay,

966
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 9: let's expand the field a little bit. You can keep

967
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 9: going and you don't have to stop and say okay,

968
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 9: well now it's just time for.

969
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 3: Us to wait.

970
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 9: No, pick up the next problem, pick up the next

971
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 9: domestic problem.

972
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Speaker 1: We have.

973
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 9: There are no shortage of problems here, We have plenty

974
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 9: of them. And yet the president and it's it's I'm

975
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 9: sure that there are things that are going on that

976
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 9: we just simply don't hear about. And yet where the

977
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 9: president's focus is is clearly abroad. He's really busy talking

978
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 9: about Israel and Ukraine. And every two seconds we're hearing

979
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 9: that he solved nine wars before they even broke out. Okay, now,

980
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 9: now let's talk about car insurance. Now, let's talk about rent.

981
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 9: Now let's talk about how you're going to make it

982
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 9: more conducive for comfort, for places to build, for states

983
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 9: to build, you know, on federal land, more licensing. Do

984
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 9: what tell us there are there are plenty of places

985
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 9: where you can be addressing these things and bringing up

986
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 9: a new a new program, a new proposal every single day.

987
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 9: But again, his emphasis really has been on all these

988
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 9: all these foreign things and the dignitaries and meeting in

989
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 9: the Oval Office with these dignitaries. Then he says that

990
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 9: he's doing all these deals and that's finding good. And

991
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 9: yet still it needs to also be said that there

992
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 9: are legislative things that I think that his agencies could

993
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:13,439
Speaker 9: be doing.

994
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 3: You do hear about it. I don't want to. I

995
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 3: don't want to be too hard on him.

996
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 9: I give his I give his I give him a

997
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 9: lot of grace, a lot of credit. But I think

998
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 9: that I'm in the mainstream of the right wing when

999
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 9: I say that there has been a loss of focus

1000
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 9: on the.

1001
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 3: Things that are really important right now.

1002
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's ever any And you know,

1003
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 2: my liberal friends who asked me, you know, would you

1004
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 2: ever criticize Trump about anything, like, do you think he's

1005
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 2: just great everything? I say, yeah, I'll criticize him if

1006
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 2: when I don't think he's being conservative enough, when I

1007
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:49,439
Speaker 2: don't think he's his policies are are pro capitalist enough, yeah,

1008
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 2: I will absolutely criticize him. And I think that the

1009
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: shoe fits in this case. Now, this other story I

1010
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you about again, just with the distractions

1011
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 2: and the stupidity in years past. And I'm not going

1012
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 2: to ask your age, but I think you're younger than

1013
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: jd Vance, right, it's that accurate.

1014
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 3: I actually I'm not even sure.

1015
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 2: Okay, he's just forty one, forty two years old.

1016
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm younger.

1017
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, So back in the nineties and in

1018
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 2: the eighties when I was a small child, the media

1019
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 2: could get away with calling out, you know, just saying, okay,

1020
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 2: there's a huge scandal. There's an email from Jeffrey Epstein

1021
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 2: that says Donald Trump ate Thanksgiving with him in twenty seventeen,

1022
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 2: and he was in a room with a victim in

1023
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 2: the same room. So the headline is Trump's name is

1024
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 2: in the Epstein files. And all these insanely inaccurate and

1025
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 2: in some cases like libelous possibly things that are being

1026
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 2: you know, said on X about the president and pedophilia

1027
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 2: and all this craziness. Can you break down this insanity

1028
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 2: that is being attempted? He you're yet again by the left,

1029
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 2: and thankfully is not going to be successful because they

1030
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 2: don't control the narrative anymore.

1031
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:06,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and thank god.

1032
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 9: I mean that's the thing is they really shot their

1033
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 9: wad through through the last i would say, like six

1034
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 9: seven years with every single incremental thing with you know,

1035
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 9: Russia Gate in particular, is supposed to be a scandal.

1036
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 3: Every tweet is a scandal.

1037
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 9: You're supposed to get really anxious about it and really

1038
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 9: worried and upset, and then people see that the sun

1039
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,919
Speaker 9: rises the next day and you're fine, Like, I really

1040
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 9: think that that was the dynamic that it's played out

1041
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 9: for so many years now. The's just okay, if you're

1042
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 9: telling me once again, I mean, I feel this.

1043
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 3: It's the same fatigue I have.

1044
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 9: It's okay, you expect me to drop what I'm doing

1045
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 9: to pay attention to this Epstein story one more time,

1046
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 9: and I'll even go ahead, I'll entertain you.

1047
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 3: Oh, I guess I see now why.

1048
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 9: The headline is Trump's name in Epstein's story rather than

1049
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 9: email shows that Trump knew about the sex trafficking, like

1050
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 9: that would be the headline if there was actually something here. Instead,

1051
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 9: I've read that the initial New York Times story about it,

1052
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 9: and you get around like I think, like five I

1053
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 9: have six paragraphs in where where I guess it's Epstein

1054
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 9: messaging Glaine and says Glenn Maxwell and says, yeah.

1055
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Speaker 3: He wanted, he knew, he wanted. He told me to

1056
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 3: stop with the girls.

1057
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Speaker 9: And I'm like, Okay, that seems like that's kind of

1058
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 9: the important part here if we're trying to implicate Trump

1059
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,719
Speaker 9: in some way, and that it seems like that would

1060
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 9: maybe be the headline, and also it fits exactly with

1061
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,440
Speaker 9: what what Trump had already said publicly.

1062
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 3: But I there was a separate.

1063
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 9: New York Times story I was reading just a little

1064
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 9: bit before we got on the phone here. Uh, there

1065
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 9: was about the right wing media's response to this and

1066
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 9: how they've collectively shrugged and they've kind of like seized

1067
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 9: on the one detail that it was the victim had

1068
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 9: actually said already that Trump was only kind to her,

1069
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 9: never didn't and she never saw anything untoward. And I'm like, yeah,

1070
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,440
Speaker 9: because that's the truth. This is this is not interesting.

1071
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 9: I'm sorry that I wasn't exercised enough about this. I

1072
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 9: didn't write, you know, a million pieces. You know, you're

1073
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 9: probably not doing segments about it because it's just really

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Speaker 9: not that interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, completely the quick break here, Can you come back

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Speaker 2: for like three minutes? I want to talk about your book, Eddie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sure, we'll be at back on Tony Kats today. Stay

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Speaker 2: with us. We're back on Tony Katz today. Mike Coolidge,

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Speaker 2: Eddie Scary. We got about two minutes Eddie Scary's book Traders,

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Speaker 2: The Democrat Parties collapse into anti American filth? What is

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Speaker 2: this about Eddie.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's about a lot of things. Mostly in the

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Speaker 9: titles explains it all. But what I really wanted to

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Speaker 9: do with this book is make sure that they're a

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Speaker 9: real chronicle depiction of what happened in twenty twenty four. Specifically,

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Speaker 9: we go over a lot of material, but especially as

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Speaker 9: it relates to the twenty twenty four campaign, because that's

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Speaker 9: when it became just so clear that the Democrat Party

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Speaker 9: is not even just super liberal. It's not like we're

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Speaker 9: we've grown overly partisan. The Democrat Party the simplest answer

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Speaker 9: that it has just become truly and fundamentally anti American.

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Speaker 3: And they showed it so vividly through the.

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Speaker 9: Election and with what they tried to do, first with

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Speaker 9: denying Trump from the ballot, trying to take away people's choice,

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Speaker 9: then of course using the law fair trying to put

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Speaker 9: him to zero out his finances, put him in prison,

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Speaker 9: and then ultimately what happens, he's almost assassinated. So that

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Speaker 9: those are the things that I really really want nobody

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Speaker 9: to ever forget.

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Speaker 3: And remember just how anti America the Democrat Party is.

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Speaker 9: But it's also about the issues, every single major issue

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Speaker 9: that has dominated the national discourse.

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Speaker 3: Over the course of the last three four years.

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Speaker 9: Democrats are on the anti American side. Whether it's crime,

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Speaker 9: they want more of it. They're against law enforcement, They're

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Speaker 9: they're okay with lawfair. Something that's not supposed to be

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Speaker 9: part of the Western world, the advanced Western world. Immigration,

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Speaker 9: they don't believe in checking it. You saw a sitting

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Speaker 9: US senator, Democrat Senator of Maryland, Chris van Holand, leave

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Speaker 9: his constituents behind to go re import leg a profess

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Speaker 9: illegal alien that was a Brego Garcia if you remember him. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: for sure, on and on all of the issues anti American.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that the second hour, Eddie

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Speaker 2: Scary Traders the Democrat parties collapse into anti American filth.

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Speaker 2: Find it online on Amazon and on Apple Books. Eddie Scary,

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Speaker 2: thanks for coming on. Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 1: Why from Dall Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 10: It's Tony Katz today. It is Tony Katz today. That's

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Speaker 10: what the show is, and it is today.

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Speaker 2: I am not Tony Katz, though, I am Mike Coolidge,

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Speaker 2: koo L I D G. E. You can find me

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Speaker 2: on the old X at Coolidge and Tony I believe

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Speaker 2: we'll be back next week, but thrilled to be on

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Speaker 2: the air again. On the airwaves. Did my own radio

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Speaker 2: show for fifteen years, had Tony on many times, and

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Speaker 2: I've been on Tony show too as a guest, and

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Speaker 2: we go way back. Gosh, I guess about fifteen years,

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Speaker 2: meeting right in the beginning of the Obama administration back

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Speaker 2: in nine twenty ten or thereabouts. And yeah, I ended

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Speaker 2: my radio show specifically to run for Congress in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two. Was not successful. We thought it was going

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Speaker 2: to be a big old red wave and it wasn't

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Speaker 2: quite one, and we're trying to guard against a blue

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Speaker 2: wave from occurring next year. I'd continue to work behind

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Speaker 2: the scenes for a number of organizations trying to, you know,

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Speaker 2: keep the left away from power. There is nothing, and

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Speaker 2: I mean nothing. Leftists and Democrats love more than power, nothing,

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Speaker 2: and they will go through anything and do anything to

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Speaker 2: get it. And they'll do anything they can to harm, hurt,

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Speaker 2: or stop those that disagree with them, I guess from

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Speaker 2: keeping them from power. If people on the right don't

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01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 2: generally want power. I didn't run for Congress to be

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Speaker 2: powerful or to have power. I want to go to

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Speaker 2: Congress to maybe draft legislation that would perhaps take a

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Speaker 2: little power away from the government, perhaps and act some

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Speaker 2: laws and vote for some laws that would get the

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Speaker 2: government out of the way of our economy. We as

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Speaker 2: conservatives are diametrically on the opposite side of the statement

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Speaker 2: from that Marxist communist mayor to be in New York

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Speaker 2: City who said in his victory speech there is not

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Speaker 2: a plan or there is not a societal ill out

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Speaker 2: there that the government can't solve. He actually said that

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Speaker 2: we believe in the old maxim from Ronald Reagan that

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Speaker 2: the I think it's the seven worst words I'm bad

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Speaker 2: accounting in the English language, seven or eight or nine,

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Speaker 2: however many it is is I'm from the government and

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Speaker 2: I'm here to help. No, there's another great quote from

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Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan. The best social program is a job, I know,

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Speaker 2: not necessarily a government job. We started this show today

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Speaker 2: talking about Charlie Kirk, not only because his influence and power,

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01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 2: not you know, literal power, because he was never he

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Speaker 2: never held elected office, he never ran for office. He

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01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 2: wasn't a politician. He was just a voice. But man

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01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 2: was his voice stronger than anyone's On the right of

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Speaker 2: his generation, to be sure, and arguably as far as

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Speaker 2: all of the voices on the right over the last

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Speaker 2: half century, I would put him in the same category

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Speaker 2: as far as influence over our movements and our culture. Really,

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Speaker 2: I'd put him in the same category as Russia Limbaugh

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Speaker 2: and I bet you Rushwood to Rush had a great

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Speaker 2: story in twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen about meeting and talking

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Speaker 2: with Charlie Kirk on a golf course and about how

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Speaker 2: impressed he was with him. This quote and this speech

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Speaker 2: from Charlie. The other reason too, I mentioned and we're

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Speaker 2: talking about Charlie Kirk. This is purely a coincidence. But

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Speaker 2: the last time I filled in for Tony on Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today was September tenth of this year, and towards

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Speaker 2: the very end of the show, I got a word

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Speaker 2: of my ear that from Land and our producer that

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk had been shot, and we were not on

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Speaker 2: the air long enough to break the news about his

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01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 2: awful death. But it was a day that we'll all

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Speaker 2: remember vividly, and Charlie Kirk's words and legacy continues to

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Speaker 2: gain an influence. And this just came out today I

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Speaker 2: mean didn't come out. It came out this or last summer.

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Speaker 2: I guess so. Yeah, twenty twenty four. This is Charlie

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Speaker 2: Kirk at the RNC talking about what we're talking about today,

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Speaker 2: which is affordability.

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Speaker 11: Basic things our parents enjoyed are increasingly out of reach

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Speaker 11: for gen Z and millennials.

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Speaker 2: You see, the.

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Speaker 11: American dream has become a luxury item for the wealthy elites.

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Speaker 11: Democrats have given hundreds of billions of dollars to illegals

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Speaker 11: and foreign nations, while gen Z has to pinch pennies

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Speaker 11: just so that they can never own a home, never marry,

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Speaker 11: and work until they die childless. To all the gen

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Speaker 11: Zers watching this convention on TikTok right now, I have

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Speaker 11: a message just for you. You don't have to stay poor.

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Speaker 11: You don't have to accept being worse off than your parents.

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Speaker 2: That was Charlie Kirk just over a year ago, barely

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Speaker 2: over a year ago, in Milwaukee. I was there. I

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Speaker 2: was on the floor in Milwaukee at the Republican National Convention,

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Speaker 2: and I'm telling you what he's talking about there is

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Speaker 2: going to be the issue the next year for the

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Speaker 2: midterm elections. If we are the right, aren't able to

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Speaker 2: articulate why not just the leftist viewpoint of insanity and

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01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 2: big government and Marxism and socialism is just insane, it's

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Speaker 2: just strong. It's bad, it's terrible, it is those are

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Speaker 2: all true, but we need to be able to articulate why.

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01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 2: We need to explain basic concepts like when you subsidize anything,

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01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 2: the price will go up. Case in point tuition, if

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01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:47,879
Speaker 2: you tell an eighteen year old kid that the government

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01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 2: is going to give you a bunch of money and

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Speaker 2: they will guarantee to pay the university for you to

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Speaker 2: go there, you just you know, all the government money

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Speaker 2: until you're retirement age, depending on what cow woud you

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Speaker 2: go to. Because you can't ever get rid of student

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Speaker 2: loan debt, even if you go bankrupt, you still have

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Speaker 2: to pay it. It is locked in stone. But that's

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Speaker 2: the bad part for the lender, I'm sorry, the person

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Speaker 2: taking out the loan, the student. That's a bad part

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Speaker 2: for the student. The good part, the people who make

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Speaker 2: out great, is the university because they have guaranteed money

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Speaker 2: coming from the government no matter what. So what happens

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Speaker 2: to anything when you have guaranteed money coming in, whether

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Speaker 2: you're whether you are a university, whether you are an

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Speaker 2: insurance company, whether you are a solar panel, whether you're

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Speaker 2: an electric car manufacturer, if you have guaranteed money coming

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Speaker 2: in in a form of some kind of subsidy from

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Speaker 2: the government. And I know student loans aren't necessarily subsidies

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Speaker 2: their loans, but still it's money that university knows they're

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Speaker 2: getting from the government guaranteed. What did they do They

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Speaker 2: raise prices because it's artificial. You have a car manufacturer

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Speaker 2: that makes electric cars for let's say it costs them,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, thirty thousand dollars to make a Chevy Vault.

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Speaker 2: It's probably a lot more. I don't know. I'm just

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Speaker 2: pulling that number out. And in the Obama Biden world

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01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 2: of political philosophy, why we need more electric cars even

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Speaker 2: though the battery process takes tons of energy and you know,

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01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 2: burns fossil fuels whatever, which isn't necessarily bad, but they

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01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 2: think it's bad. They think it's the worse thing. But

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Speaker 2: they don't talk about that. They just think, oh, well,

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01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 2: once the cars made, it's electric, it's not polluting anything

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Speaker 2: at all. It's great, it's perfect. So it costs thirty

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars to make the vehicle, but we can't sell

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Speaker 2: it for thirty thousand dollars because then we would it

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01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 2: would be a wash. We wouldn't be able to you know,

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Speaker 2: pay our workers or pay our bills or anything. So

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Speaker 2: we need to obviously charge more than that. Well, the

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Speaker 2: government comes in and says we're going to give a

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Speaker 2: consumer fifteen thousand dollars if they buy an electric vehicle

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Speaker 2: from you, and they say, oh, really, so they're going

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Speaker 2: to come to me and they're already gonna have fifteen

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars, so all they have to come up with

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Speaker 2: is fifteen thousand. Well, here's the thing. We do all

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Speaker 2: this like you know, credit check and income check, and

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Speaker 2: we find out what people can afford when they walk

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Speaker 2: on our lot. And if we find out they can

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Speaker 2: afford fifty thousand dollars, you know, when we do that whole, Hey,

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Speaker 2: here's what the payment costs. Forget about the insurance or

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the interest rate for a second. Well, just

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Speaker 2: talk about how much you're paying per month, and we

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Speaker 2: figure out that we can weigh up that price because

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Speaker 2: they're automatically getting fifteen thousand dollars. The price of that

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Speaker 2: electric vehicle is going to go up. The price of

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Speaker 2: health insurance is going to go up in January. Why

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Speaker 2: because the quote unquote Affordable Care Act made care the

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Speaker 2: care part of the Affordable Care unaffordable because they infused

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Speaker 2: money into a lot more money. They mandated money be

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Speaker 2: paid for health insurance for these subsidies. So these these

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Speaker 2: subsidies are going to go away in January, and we're

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Speaker 2: going to see what the real cost is of health insurance,

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Speaker 2: which is going to be way higher than it was

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Speaker 2: even if you adjust for inflation before Obamacare. Why because

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01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 2: they increase their prices because they know that the consumers

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Speaker 2: were getting subsidized by the government artificial money, not real money.

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Speaker 2: I mean, artificially pumping money into what should be the

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Speaker 2: free market is going to result in higher prices in unaffordability.

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Speaker 2: We're all going to find that out in January. But

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Speaker 2: if those of us on the right aren't articulating that

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01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 2: viewpoint that this is the fault of democrat and liberal policies,

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Speaker 2: not the Republican policies. If we had ars brothers, I

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Speaker 2: was on the air every day railing against Obamacare, predicting

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Speaker 2: that this would happen if they messed around with healthcare,

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Speaker 2: trying to make the government and put the government in

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Speaker 2: charge and fuse billions, hundreds of billions of dollars, if

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Speaker 2: not trillions of dollars into the healthcare economy. It is

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Speaker 2: not going through results in lower prices. It's going to

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Speaker 2: result in higher prices and higher taxes. And that's happening

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Speaker 2: in January thanks to the brilliant liberal Democrats, who if

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Speaker 2: you remember Obamacare, all and only Democrats voted for that.

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Speaker 2: No Republicans. There was not a bipartisan thing. There was

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Speaker 2: not a good discussion from the side. Okay, we'll messing

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Speaker 2: around with this. We'll give you guys this, you know,

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Speaker 2: the good kind of sort of compromised way that quote

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Speaker 2: unquote good legislation. I mean, you know, Medicare and Medicaid

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Speaker 2: and social securities. Definitely, Social Security definitely has its flaws

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Speaker 2: and problems. But all those things were passed by both

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Speaker 2: Republicans and Democrats back in the day, so you can't

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Speaker 2: you can't blame that on I mean, they're all big

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Speaker 2: government things, and again they're not perfect, but they were

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Speaker 2: put together by both Republicans and Democrats. Obamacare wasn't It

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01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 2: is the pipe dream of the left and they got

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01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 2: and they and acted it thanks to next to no

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Speaker 2: stalk part to the state I live in a rowan

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Speaker 2: Burris guy being a Senator for five minutes being the

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Speaker 2: final vote on that. But I don't want to go

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Speaker 2: down that route anyway. We need to be able to

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Speaker 2: articulate the solutions to the affordability crisis in healthcare, in housing,

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01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 2: in student loan debt, and grocery prices. Our solutions result

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Speaker 2: in lower prices, not the leftist Marxist viewpoint. And we

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Speaker 2: have a bunch of months to get our arguments straight,

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Speaker 2: to get our talking points down. But we can't just

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Speaker 2: be the criticizers. We have to actually come up with

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01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 2: our own viewpoints and solutions and articulate them well. And

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Speaker 2: that's how we will keep these Marxist communists out of

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Speaker 2: power in Washington, DC and hopefully in our state houses

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01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 2: as well. Though here in Illinois we have a long

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Speaker 2: road to hoe to switch that. I know Indiana and

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01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 2: other states that this fine radio show broadcasts from are

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Speaker 2: doing way better as far as the size of government

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01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 2: and the size of government bodies and the tax situation

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01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 2: way better than Illinois. If you're listening to this not

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Speaker 2: in Illinois. Trust me, it's better than Illinois, which is

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Speaker 2: almost exclusively run by Democrats in Springfield. All right, we

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Speaker 2: are going to take a break. We will continue on

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz Day. We have coming up later this hour,

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Speaker 2: switching gears talking about illegal immigration and some of the awful,

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01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 2: awful tragedies that have occurred because of the terrible policies

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01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 2: of the left over the last half decade. Joe Abraham,

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Speaker 2: the father of Katie Abraham, who lost her life thanks

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Speaker 2: to an illegal alien drunk driver in Illinois last year.

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Speaker 2: He's going to join us coming up later this hour,

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Speaker 2: and we'll get into that topic when we come back.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. I am Mike Coolidge filling

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01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 2: in for Tony. Stay with us. We're back on Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today. I'm Mike Coolidge in for Tony. Coolidge is

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01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 2: spelled with a K. For a little stints. Back in

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01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:31,440
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, I helped edit American Greatness fantastic website.

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01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:38,440
Speaker 2: Victor Davis Hansen probably talk about, you know, the smart

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01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 2: thinkers on the right, the smartest thinkers on the right

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01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:47,799
Speaker 2: for his generation, probably the best great piece in American

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01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:53,560
Speaker 2: Greatness confronting anti Ellis Island immigration. Ellis Island built a

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01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 2: nation through law and order. Biden's border chaos dismantled it

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01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 2: with lawlessness, vision and the greatest illegal influx in US history.

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Speaker 2: Between eighteen ninety four and nineteen fifty four, approximately twelve

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Speaker 2: million immigrants arrived at the now iconic Ellis Island to

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Speaker 2: enter the United States, or nearly two hundred thousand legal

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01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 2: entries per year. All were registered, documented, and given rudimentary

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01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 2: health exams. They arrived as rich and poor, white and

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01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 2: non white, and without exception legally. With the gradual decline

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Speaker 2: of such great influxes, Ellis Island finally ceased operating roughly

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01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 2: seventy one years ago. Yet Ellis Island's successful tenure offers

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Speaker 2: a sharp contrast to the failures of our recent open

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01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 2: border catastrophes. Americans will never know how many immigrants swarmed

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01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 2: the southern border between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: When Joe Biden and his impeached Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro

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01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:03,679
Speaker 2: Majorcis destroyed federal immigration law as we once knew it.

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Speaker 2: By design, they allowed between ten and twelve million foreign

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Speaker 2: nationals to make a mockery of federal immigration laws by

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Speaker 2: swarming the southern border. Many crossers grew violent at any

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Speaker 2: sign of even meek efforts by ICE officers to enforce

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Speaker 2: the law. Border patrol officers were often mocked, threatened, and

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Speaker 2: assaulted by arriving illegal aliens. Officers were on shore as

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Speaker 2: to what was worse the occasional violence from illegal immigrants

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Speaker 2: or retaliation from the Biden administration if they sought to

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Speaker 2: enforce federal law and block illegal entrance. So the Biden

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Speaker 2: administration pulled off the near impossible. In a mere four years,

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Speaker 2: it had invited in almost as many illegal immigrants as

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Speaker 2: had entered through Ellis Island legally over seven decades. But

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Speaker 2: unlike past immigrants, we now witness organized violence against ICE officials.

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Speaker 2: We see orwellian scenes of mobs burning the American flag,

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01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 2: the flag of the country they demand to stay in,

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01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 2: while waving the flags of the countries they have no

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01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 2: desire or intention of returning to. And some three generations ago,

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Speaker 2: a smaller, poorer, but wiser America properly solved its immigration

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Speaker 2: problem at Ellis Island, welcoming in immigrants orderly and legally

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Speaker 2: with health and background screenings. There's more. I encourage you

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Speaker 2: to read the rest of it. At American Greatness Victor

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Speaker 2: Davis Hansen confronting Ellis Island immigration. We're going to hear

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Speaker 2: from Joe Abraham, father of the late Katie Abraham after

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Speaker 2: this on Tony Cats today. This is Mike Coolidge in

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Speaker 2: for Tony. Stay with us. We are back on Tony

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Speaker 2: Cats today. I am Mike Coolidge filling in for Tony.

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Speaker 2: Coolidge is spelled with a K. Find me on x

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Speaker 2: kub l I dge. And we talked before the break

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Speaker 2: about illegal immigration and about how Ellis Island ushered in

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Speaker 2: for decades legal immigration. Nearly two hundred thousand per year

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Speaker 2: between eighteen ninety two and nineteen fifty four, twelve million

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Speaker 2: legal immigrants came in. My ancestors my mother's side of

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Speaker 2: from Scotland. My father's side was from Hungary and they

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01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 2: both both sides came through Ellis Island during those years,

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Speaker 2: and it's part of what made our country, especially in

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Speaker 2: the twentieth and twenty first century and the generations that

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Speaker 2: came after, and even those who legally immigrated to the

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Speaker 2: United States after Ellis Island closed, the legal immigrants here

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Speaker 2: become part of the melting pot of the United States,

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Speaker 2: and you know deporunum altogether one. Well, that of course

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Speaker 2: has been thrown out the window in the last couple

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Speaker 2: of years, particularly during the Biden administration. And it's a tragedy,

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Speaker 2: or I should say, it's bad when bad policy leads

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01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,679
Speaker 2: to people losing their jobs or them not be able

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01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 2: to afford groceries. But it gets truly evil when bad

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Speaker 2: policies result in people's debts. And our next guest, I

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Speaker 2: had the honor of meeting earlier this week in Illinois,

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Speaker 2: where I make my home, and he went through something

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Speaker 2: that none of us should ever have to go through.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to let him tell the story. Joe Abraham

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Speaker 2: joins us now from from Illinois, where I happen to

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Speaker 2: live his well. Joe, welcome on to Tony Katz today

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Speaker 2: with Mike Coolidge.

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Speaker 6: I Mike, it was a pleasure meeting you the other day.

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Speaker 2: Yes, tell us first about your daughter, Katie, and then

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Speaker 2: tell our listeners what exactly happened.

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Speaker 7: Sure, Katie's my youngest, she's twenty years old. She was

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Speaker 7: such a spirit. Honestly, she was great sense of humor,

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Speaker 7: She loved music, she loved the water, water polo player.

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Speaker 6: She did so well at it.

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Speaker 7: She was going in her third year at Ohio University.

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Speaker 6: They went down with some.

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Speaker 7: Friends to University of Illinois, so Urbana.

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Speaker 6: Illinois, to visit some friends at you Buy, and she

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Speaker 6: was killed on the streets of Urbana.

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Speaker 7: So a suv plowed into the rear of their car at.

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Speaker 6: Eighty miles an hour.

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Speaker 7: A drunk driver turned out to be a drunk illegal

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Speaker 7: alien driver.

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Speaker 6: So after we struck the car and devastated.

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Speaker 7: Lies, five lives, and then obviously the collateral lives that

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Speaker 7: are part of it that have to live without their children.

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Speaker 7: He didn't render age, he didn't call nine one one,

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Speaker 7: He didn't stick around to help first responders understand what happened.

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Speaker 7: He fled, He ran, He ran fast, So within a

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Speaker 7: couple of days he went from Urbanta to Chicago, and

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Speaker 7: Chicago they caught him. I believe it was Milford, Texas,

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Speaker 7: north of north of the Mexico border. And that's sort

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Speaker 7: of it, you know, the tragedy of it. To me, obviously,

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Speaker 7: if Katie would have utterly rejected the way she died

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Speaker 7: as compassionate.

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Speaker 6: And loving of a woman she was.

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Speaker 7: To have Illinois with these extreme just utterly thoughtless and

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Speaker 7: misguided sanctuary policies. It's really devastating. It just sort of

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Speaker 7: put salt in that wound, you know, because.

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Speaker 6: It was preventable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the that's the worst part about it is

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Speaker 2: that it was preventable. Had Illinois been a law or

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Speaker 2: been a state that enforced the laws of our country

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Speaker 2: that you must come to the United States and be

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Speaker 2: here legally, this monster wouldn't have even been here to

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Speaker 2: begin with. And I don't even know if you want

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Speaker 2: to say his name, I have it here in front

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Speaker 2: of me, but.

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Speaker 6: I'll say his name. I'll pay his name absolutely.

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Speaker 7: Julio Cucko Bowl who was in Illinois using Julio using

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Speaker 7: an alias Juance laur as a Mexican national, but he

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Speaker 7: was actually Julio Cucko Bowl, a Guatemala national. Now the FEDS,

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Speaker 7: Federal Enforcement knew he was the first day. So for example, Mike,

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Speaker 7: if you think about this, and I lose sleep every

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Speaker 7: night because of these kind of things, but if you

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Speaker 7: think about it, here's a guy who is using an

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Speaker 7: alien who's already been deported. The FEDS knew exactly who

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Speaker 7: were who he was, so Illinois and their extreme policies said,

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Speaker 7: you know what we're gonna at night, you know, you know,

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Speaker 7: in the dark room, they made a decision. They kicked

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Speaker 7: the side door open of Illinois and they just flooded

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Speaker 7: the state. And I'm sorry. The state is so mismanaged.

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Speaker 7: Citizens are leaving and the only way to keep your

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01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 7: apportionment in Congress is to bring in anybody and everybody

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Speaker 7: and unvetted, unaudited, unchecked.

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Speaker 6: So what they did was just bring in.

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Speaker 7: They didn't know who they were, where they were going,

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Speaker 7: how they were going to survive, how were they living right,

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Speaker 7: Because obviously Hulua Kuka Bowl he had no job, he

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Speaker 7: had bought a car, he was paying for insurance in

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Speaker 7: an illegal, fraudulent way.

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Speaker 6: He was living day to day. He was going out and.

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Speaker 7: About and I'm going to go on a limb here,

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Speaker 7: Mike and say I doubt very much this was his

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Speaker 7: first foray into drunk driving.

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm going to say there.

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Speaker 7: So instead of having a front end process that checks

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Speaker 7: and and does some type of minimal background, these guys

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Speaker 7: just flooded them. So in their equation, Mike, I got

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Speaker 7: to believe in their equation and their calculus, they had

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Speaker 7: deaths like Katie built into their numbers as they were

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Speaker 7: letting people flood in.

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Speaker 2: And after you buried your daughter, after you grieved for her,

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Speaker 2: and I know you'll you'll grieve for her for the

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Speaker 2: rest of your life. You decided that you didn't want

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Speaker 2: her death to be in vain. Uh tell us what

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Speaker 2: you what you've done since since you've been through what

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Speaker 2: you've been through.

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Speaker 6: Sure, So, initially we thought we would be able.

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Speaker 7: To speak to people at Illinois. So Illinois, if no

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Speaker 7: one knows Illinoy's a supermajority Democratic run states.

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Speaker 2: So so we.

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Speaker 7: Were invited to Congress. I thought we would have you know,

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01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,759
Speaker 7: you know, Governor Pretzker was there with Governor Watson Hokel.

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01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 7: They were going to testify on sanctuary cities. We were

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01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 7: invited to hear them. I was excited to hear from

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01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 7: the Democrats who run the state and put these extreme policies,

1503
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:07,719
Speaker 7: Like what was the problem did we have vetting?

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01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 6: What did you just slip through the crack? Someone please

1505
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 6: talk to me.

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01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:11,639
Speaker 2: I lost the daughter.

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01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 7: I want to understand was it just a mistake?

1508
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:15,600
Speaker 6: How you got fixing it?

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01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:16,680
Speaker 2: Are you working on it?

1510
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 6: And I got nothing but silence.

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01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:19,800
Speaker 2: Was deafening.

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01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 6: From JB. Pittscurit to my Congresswoman.

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01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 7: Janschaikowski, to every state Democrat, not one of them talk

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Speaker 7: to me.

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01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 6: And this is back in June.

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01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 7: And you know, meanwhile, the White House brought us over

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01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 7: and other people were talking to us, but no one

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01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 7: from Illinois. So that's why I started saying, you know what,

1519
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 7: I'm speaking out. This is ridiculous, this is unacceptable. These

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01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 7: people are uncaring. They are governed. I'm sorry, they don't

1521
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 7: even govern. They rule our rulers with arrogance and personal ambition.

1522
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,600
Speaker 7: That's all they care about. There's no humility in what

1523
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 7: they're doing in service. There's no service at all. And

1524
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:55,679
Speaker 7: they're thoughtless in how they do these. As a matter

1525
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 7: of fact, it's more than thoughtless. This is part of

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01:38:58,120 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 7: their calculus.

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01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:01,599
Speaker 6: They knew citizen were going to die and they let

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01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 6: that happen.

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01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 7: So I've start speaking out. And then when DHS called

1530
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 7: me about this midway blitz, I just didn't want to

1531
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 7: use Katie's name. So I sat down with everybody I could,

1532
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:16,640
Speaker 7: from Director Lions on down to support staff on DHS

1533
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 7: and Ice and Mike.

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01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:19,560
Speaker 6: I didn't see.

1535
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 7: One Nazi, not anyone goose stepping around at their offices.

1536
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 7: They were so professional, they were so dedicated, they were

1537
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 7: good people. I wish some of these folks out there

1538
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:33,719
Speaker 7: making trouble chaos would just sit down with these guys

1539
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 7: and see.

1540
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 6: What they're all about.

1541
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:35,880
Speaker 3: But really, what it.

1542
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 7: Comes down to, Mike, in my heart is the.

1543
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 6: Folks like JB.

1544
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 7: Pittsgourd his, the folks running Illinois. They want this chaos

1545
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 7: in the streets. They need this chaos in the streets.

1546
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 7: This city and the state is so mismanaged. This is

1547
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 7: the perfect deflection for these guys. They wind up saying, oh,

1548
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 7: look at Ice, it's Gustopo and Nazis, and don't look

1549
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 7: their over here, because you.

1550
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 2: Got to look over there.

1551
01:39:57,640 --> 01:39:59,640
Speaker 7: And all you got to do is just work with

1552
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 7: the some federal officers.

1553
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 6: At a minimum.

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01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:07,879
Speaker 7: In the Illinois it's contract's prohibited. It's so beyond extreme.

1555
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 7: When I learned more, Mike, I was just born. How

1556
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:13,520
Speaker 7: could Illinois.

1557
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 2: Citizens want this?

1558
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 6: But you know it's a supermatory state, so I don't

1559
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 6: even know how you can stop it.

1560
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:22,719
Speaker 2: Mike, Yeah, I mean I know this show is broadcast

1561
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:24,760
Speaker 2: all over the Midwest, but a lot of listeners are

1562
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 2: in Indiana, and a lot of listeners are probably former

1563
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 2: Illinoisans who were so set up with the insane policies

1564
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 2: of people like JB. Pritzker and the super majority Democrats

1565
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:40,640
Speaker 2: in Springfield. And they're making much better lives of themselves

1566
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 2: in Indiana and in other states throughout the Midwest. Right now,

1567
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 2: but before we wrap up, I know you've talked with DHS.

1568
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:50,760
Speaker 2: I know you've not just talk with them, I mean

1569
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 2: you've helped them come up with Operation Midway Blitz. Have

1570
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 2: you been in communication with the White House as well?

1571
01:40:57,920 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: Is that right?

1572
01:40:59,240 --> 01:40:59,879
Speaker 2: In June?

1573
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,680
Speaker 7: We were so the Trump Administration's administration brought us to

1574
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 7: the White House. They Donald Trump actually told our story

1575
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 7: and uh, this is part of the big beautiful bill,

1576
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 7: and a lot of provisions within that bill really bolstered

1577
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:17,719
Speaker 7: border security and ICE and DHS, and these were things

1578
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 7: that I thought, at least from our perspective where we

1579
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:22,799
Speaker 7: were now, I had nothing from Illinois.

1580
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 6: They were going to do nothing. Actually they triple quadruple

1581
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 6: down on what they were already doing.

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01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:29,000
Speaker 2: So I agreed.

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01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 7: I said, yeah, if this is going to secure the border,

1584
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:33,680
Speaker 7: it's going to help us clear out some or at

1585
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 7: least vet some of the folks that shouldn't be here. Look,

1586
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 7: we're a family of immigrants too. My mom and dad immigrated.

1587
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 7: We got you know, we have nothing but good feelings

1588
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 7: about that.

1589
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:44,720
Speaker 6: But here's the other thing.

1590
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 7: You create this policy and you talk about compassion, how

1591
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 7: you're going to help immigration, what your policies have done.

1592
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 6: The effect of your policies have turned.

1593
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:55,920
Speaker 7: American sour to immigration.

1594
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 6: You don't even realize that.

1595
01:41:57,560 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 7: But it's not about immigration.

1596
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 6: This is about certain power.

1597
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 7: This is about posturing against Donald Trump.

1598
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:05,680
Speaker 6: But when I was at the.

1599
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 7: White House, Donald Trump was absolutely the opposite of what

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01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 7: easier on than us.

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01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 6: He was a stand up guy.

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01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 7: He shook my hand, he looked me in the eye,

1603
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 7: he said, it's been.

1604
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 6: A mess and we're going to clean it up.

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01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 7: And he's dedicated to do that for Katie and Katie's honor,

1606
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:22,879
Speaker 7: and a lot of these.

1607
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:24,639
Speaker 6: Really good things on and off the camera.

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01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 7: So look, you tell me, contrasts that with my Illinois.

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01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:31,800
Speaker 6: Leader and folks here are compared to what was going

1610
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 6: on in Washington, DC.

1611
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 7: Night and day.

1612
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 6: They if they saw me.

1613
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 7: Walking on one side of the street, they would quickly

1614
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:43,440
Speaker 7: go across the street and walk away. It's amazing, amazing,

1615
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:48,680
Speaker 7: the black and white difference between these Illinois and the

1616
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 7: folks that they call the authoritarian in the White House.

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01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 7: He certainly didn't appear.

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01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 6: Like that to me.

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01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:55,240
Speaker 7: It appears like that in Illinois to me, though, I

1620
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 7: gotta be honest with you.

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01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:59,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, my wife wife from Indiana.

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01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:01,200
Speaker 7: And over the last ten years, I could see all.

1623
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:03,600
Speaker 6: The farm land being turned into developments.

1624
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 7: And so it's it's clear what's happening. There's no question

1625
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 7: about that.

1626
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 6: And that's why they need anybody to come in here.

1627
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 7: And they entide them, and they incentivize them, they fund them,

1628
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 7: they make them cross this awful journey from who knows where.

1629
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:22,000
Speaker 7: Cartel's making billions of dollars now moving people around at

1630
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 7: least what the what I heard.

1631
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:24,720
Speaker 6: In Washington, D C.

1632
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 7: And sheriffs and and and politicians and the cartels are

1633
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:31,839
Speaker 7: making huge sums of money sends to our government.

1634
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's insane, and I'm thankful that the Trump

1635
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 2: administration is doing something about it.

1636
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 1: Uh.

1637
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 2: Horrible, horrible politicians like Jamie Pritsker and his ilk are

1638
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 2: doing the opposite. And again, we're just so sorry that

1639
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 2: you had to go through what you had to go

1640
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 2: through with losing your your precious daughter, Katie, but it

1641
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:59,639
Speaker 2: sounds like you are not letting her death be in vain.

1642
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 2: And I and I salute you, and I honor you,

1643
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 2: or I and I just am so thankful for everything

1644
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 2: you're doing. And you're you are literally saving lives in

1645
01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 2: the mission you're on, Joe, And thanks so much for

1646
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 2: coming on to Tony Katz today.

1647
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:17,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you so much. No one should ever have

1648
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 6: to do that.

1649
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:20,599
Speaker 7: And if we can, Katie and I can help any

1650
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 7: parent not go through this.

1651
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 6: We're all in thank you so much.

1652
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:27,760
Speaker 2: We'll be right back. It is the final countdown for

1653
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:32,719
Speaker 2: the final segments for the final show of the week

1654
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 2: on Tony Katz today, Tony, I believe we'll be back

1655
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:42,680
Speaker 2: on Monday. I continue to talk into this microphone for

1656
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:44,879
Speaker 2: at least a couple more minutes here on this Friday.

1657
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 2: I am Mike Coolidge, and I'm glad I give out

1658
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:51,759
Speaker 2: my ex handle because a lot of you have contacted

1659
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,840
Speaker 2: me during the show on X. My ex handles real simple,

1660
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 2: It's Coolidge. That's it spelled the K got a spell

1661
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:04,640
Speaker 2: with the K K L I d G E. That's it.

1662
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 2: Speaking of X, Jazzmine Crockett has delusions of grandeur. She

1663
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 2: is a congresswoman out of Texas in Houston, and she

1664
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 2: thinks she's going to run for Senate there, and I

1665
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 2: hope she does. She's probably the most unappealing Democrat. Now,

1666
01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 2: I would if I were to rank the most unappealing

1667
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 2: sitting Democrat congressman, probably at the top would be Eric Swallwell,

1668
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:40,600
Speaker 2: and then surely after that would be Sean cast and

1669
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 2: he's a congressman in my state Illinois. Just really really bad.

1670
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 2: And the third worst, I think would be Jazmine Crockett.

1671
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 2: There's a list of things here just to show you,

1672
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 2: like how much democrats love power. A thing she's spent

1673
01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 2: money on through her campaign. It's money that people gave

1674
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 2: her to, you know, run for office and be a

1675
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 2: good congresswoman. Four one hundred and seventy five dollars on

1676
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 2: the Ritz Carlton, twenty three hundred dollars on the Luxury Collection,

1677
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:14,679
Speaker 2: fifty three to twenty six on the West Hollywood Edition.

1678
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:17,080
Speaker 2: I don't even know what these things are. Eleven hundred

1679
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:20,599
Speaker 2: and seventy three on the Times Square edition, two thousand

1680
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 2: dollars plus at the Cospitpolitan, and Ari Resort in Las Vegas.

1681
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 2: Are these hotels? I think I know the Cosmopolitan is.

1682
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 2: I don't know what the West Hollywood and Times Square Edition. Yeah,

1683
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 2: I guess our hotels twenty seven hundred on the Edgar

1684
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 2: town In, thirty one hundred and sixty on the Coco,

1685
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:42,559
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty eight. On transportation, U Limos service,

1686
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 2: twenty three to ten on DCA car LC fifty thousand

1687
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 2: dollars on security, Jazz, Me and Crockett loving the trappings

1688
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 2: of being a congressman. Ain't it nice? It's good to

1689
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 2: be It's good to be a congressman, isn't it? This

1690
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 2: has been Tony Katz today. I am Mike COOLi jen

1691
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 2: for Tony. Have a wonderful weekend.