1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, now this shutdown's getting a little fun. 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: Now we're ratcheting it up a little bit on both sides. Look, 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: we all know how it's going to end, or I'm 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: telling you right now how this is going to end. 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: The Republicans are going to strike a deal to continue Obamacare. 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: The Democrats are going to vote to have a vote 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 1: on reopening the government and Obamacare. You'll keep paying to 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: make insurance people very wealthy, and nothing will change in 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: the healthcare industry like that. That's where we're going on this. 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: I know where we're going to end on this. Heathan Hatcher. Politically, 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent correct. But I think Democrats are 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: going to take a real hit once again in their 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: approval ratings just because they are going to shoulder the 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: burden of blame for all of this. By the way, 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: Ethan Hatcher's in for Casey today Saturday night on the Circle. 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: But so I've been totally disinterested in all of this 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: because I know how it's going to end, because the 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: Republicans always hoff and they puff and then they give in, 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: and that's how the shutdowns work. But yesterday got a 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: little interesting because the Democrats cast a vote to tank 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: funding of the military, the Pentagon funding bill, and I said, 22 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: all right, now we didn't really do that. Oh yes, yes, yes, 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: Now this is how this is how completely disingenuous these 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: people are. This same bill. You know, there's all these 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: procedural votes and blah blah blah, you know what it 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: takes forever. By the way, the final VOTEA was fifty 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: to forty four. They need sixty votes. Democrats claiming in 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: protests they voted against this because Thune John Thune, the 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: leader of the Senate, basically said, all right, Democrats, you 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: want to keep voting to keep the government shut down, 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: I'll call your bluff. There's no you're going to vote 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: against the you know, the Pentagon bill, which earlier this year, 33 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: in overwhelming fashion, Democrats and Republicans had voted to move 34 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: this bill forward. That almost always happens. And now these 35 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: people are voting against. Some of them are voting against 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: the very bill they had just voted to move forward 37 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: not all that long ago. Hey, look, when Republicans are 38 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: caught doing a litany of stupid things, you got to 39 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: admit there is some smart strategy behind that move to 40 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: actually force them on the record to vote against funding 41 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: the memory military Democrats are out of their minds. That 42 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: is hilarious. Yeah, but what's crazy about this is and 43 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: I mean, these people have no shame, right obviously they 44 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of these senators had already voted to move 45 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: the thing forward. I think the committee vote to move 46 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: it forward or whatever they call it in Washington was 47 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: twenty six to three, sort of overwhelming bipartisan support to 48 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: get it to the floor for a full vote. Now 49 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: you got these same people voting against the bill they 50 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: had just voted to approve. Rob Could this be why 51 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: Democrats are now also taking hits from within? I believe 52 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: we have some soundbites to that effect. John Fetterman once 53 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: again being the betterment and speaking the truth about what 54 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: the Democrats' intentions are. 55 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: That's why shutting the government is really what the Democratic 56 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: Party wants to do. And I follow country, then party, 57 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: and it's the wrong thing for the country in a 58 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: period of chaos. I refuse to vote to shut our 59 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: government down. I absolutely would love to have I I 60 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: would love to have a conversation about extending the tax 61 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: credits for healthcare, absolutely, but I would remind everybody too, 62 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: this was designed by the Democratic Party to expire at 63 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: the end of the year. This is not something taken 64 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: from by the Republicans. That's they were designed to expire. 65 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: Now let's have a conversation to extend it and not 66 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: shut our government down. 67 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: So fascinating. He was on Chris Cuomo's program News Nation 68 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: and they're at some town hall and this visual I 69 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: know you can't see because he's radio, but with this 70 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: visual is great Ethan. It's Fetterman in a sweatshirt of course, 71 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: thank he's not dressing up. He's sitting next to Bill 72 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: O'Reilly and then Bill O'Reilly is sitting next to Stephen A. Smith, 73 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: the ESPN commentator. So these three guys are on a 74 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: stage together with Chris Cuomo moderating the town hall. That's 75 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: where that comes from. That is a cast of characters, 76 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: and I don't think you could have predicted that, like 77 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: four five years ago, if this happened in twenty twenty, 78 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: you know you wouldn't can see that kinding well and 79 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: Fetterman's fascinat because now the Democrats are mad at him 80 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: because he's pro Israel and he like he's reading the 81 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: tea leaves. Well, right, he's not clearly reading the tea 82 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: leaves politician, and so he's taking He was this very 83 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: left individual when he was I believe he was the 84 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: lieutenant governor in Pennsylvania. He was this very left individual. 85 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 1: Then he gets elected to a you know, another statewide office. 86 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: But but he's in a changing political landscape. He recognized, hey, 87 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: grenade thrower guy angle work, and so he's taken a 88 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: bunch of what are seen as pro Republican type positions. 89 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: And now the Democrats, because you can't have any of that, 90 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: they want to bounce the guy out office, and they're 91 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: like actively looking for a primary challenge to John Fetterman. 92 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: Is John Fetterman demonstrating the political theory that we've discussed 93 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: Democrats need to do in order to secure election, especially 94 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: in heavily Republican districts, by just acting normal. Because I 95 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: still wouldn't trust the guy further than I can throw 96 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: him when it comes to policy, when it comes to 97 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: the actual nitty gritty, but when it comes to the 98 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: talking points, he seems to be putting his best foot forward, 99 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, coming off as shockingly normal. Well, the great 100 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: philosopher Homer Jay Simpson once said, I guess some people 101 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: never change or quickly change and then quickly change right back. 102 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: All right, so il han Omar, She's an insufferable sea hag. 103 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: She was what is she? She's Minnesota, right, She's a 104 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: Rep from Minnesota. She was on MSNBC, of course she was, 105 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: and she admits the shutdown is hurting people, but she 106 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: don't care. 107 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: Are you concerned for the federal workers, the thousands of 108 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: them that are furloughed during this, who are out of 109 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 3: work as this continues to drag on, potentially until or 110 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: through Thanksgiving. 111 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 4: It is completely devastating. I cannot you underscore just how 112 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 4: incredibly damaging it might be for some of these workers 113 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: who are going to miss a paycheck, and that might 114 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 4: mean they're not able to pay for their childcare, It 115 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: might mean they might not be able to afford food, 116 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: It could mean that they might not be able to 117 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: afford their their rent or mortgage. And that is why 118 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: this is even more important for us to be here 119 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: negotiating to figure out how to keep to reopen the 120 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: government but also address the healthcare crisis that we have 121 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 4: been talking about. 122 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: You ever noticed with everything with her, she talks up 123 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: like this, that everything goes up, everything ends with her 124 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: talking higher than when she started. Have you ever noticed that? 125 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: Not particularly, I think that's her accent, Kevin, No, no, no, no, 126 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: that's not her accent. That's an afflect's she's there. Yeah, listen, 127 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: listen to this. 128 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: So them that are furlough during this, who are out 129 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: of work, as this continues to drag on potentially until 130 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 3: or through Thanksgiving. 131 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: It is completely devastating. I cannot, you know, underscore just 132 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: how incredibly damaging it might be for some of these workers. 133 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Well what you're hearing is Valley Girl, I think, 134 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: which tracks because that's who you know, Illhan has spending 135 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: a lot of her time around. So you know who 136 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: figured that out years ago was the women, the women 137 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: who were on this time slot before us. They figured 138 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: that out years ago. And I said, they're exactly right. 139 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: She every sentence almost that she speaks, she ends higher 140 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: than when she started. I less about her accent. I 141 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: was thinking about how damaging it is for Democrats to 142 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: stand on providing healthcare and financial services for illegal immigrants, 143 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: but then boxing out ordinary Americans, as she just said, 144 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: from being able to buy food or pay for their mortgages. 145 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: If that's the hill y'all want to die on then 146 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: go right on ahead. Yeah, that's she hadally very stupid. 147 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: They don't care, so no more Democrats don't ever get 148 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: to say again they're very concerned about the American people. 149 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: Ye all right, real quick before we get to a break. 150 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: So also in NewsNation, this was News Nation Jim Jordan. 151 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: I think this is the same town hall event that 152 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo had. Jim Jordan, who's a US REP. From Ohio, 153 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: Republican Rocanna, who is a Democrat REP. From California. I 154 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: believe they had a fascinating little back and forth on 155 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: who's to blame for this? And I just thought it'd 156 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: be fun to listen to these two go back and forth. 157 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 5: You know why no one believes this Chuck Schumer thing 158 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 5: the country things used to ineffective to actually be shutting 159 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 5: things down. Does anyone believe that the Democrats actually are 160 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 5: like running things? You got Donald Trump, you got the 161 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 5: Republicans in charge, the Republicans of the Senate, and so 162 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 5: this argument that the Democrats are blocking things are just 163 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 5: not believable. 164 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 6: You know, tell me, did you hear what the senator said? 165 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 6: To get something passing the Senate? You need sixty votes. 166 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 6: The first guest on, Chris Mischelle, was one of those 167 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 6: Democrat senators who voted with Republican but they need five more, 168 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 6: but why not there? So you got to understand basic civics, 169 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 6: how the how the Congress works. 170 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: You got to get sixty votes. You ask all this, 171 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: you could do it, and you can try to blame. 172 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 4: You can try this. 173 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 6: Cadyne, don't know what he's looking. 174 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: You got how our government is a dumpster fire. It's 175 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: a dumpster fire. It wasn't it wouldn't be nearly as 176 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: entertaining to listen to this show. It's just it's it's 177 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: great for us. It's just like we'll keep us in business, 178 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: but it's horrible for the American people. All right, let's 179 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: take a break. When we come back, John Herrick from 180 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: the w IBC newsroom is going to join us. It 181 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: was a massive day yesterday for sports in the state 182 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: of Indiana. And look, Ethan, I took this off your 183 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: plate because I know you famous, and I literally texted John, 184 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: I said, Ethan doesn't exactly do sports. So John Harrick, 185 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: very true, who is mister IU will be with us 186 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: to discuss what a big day it was it's kind 187 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: on the Casey Show ninety three w IBC. Or it 188 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: was a massive day for sports in Indiana yesterday. Some 189 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: guy got a jillion dollars. Let's get to the bottom 190 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: of it. John Herrick, news director here at WIBC, also 191 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: the pregame, halftime and postgame host for all things Indiana Athletics, football, 192 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: and basketball, joins us now John Herrick. Hello, Hello, Rob. 193 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: How are you so we have a programming tonight right 194 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: here in WIBC. 195 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, it feels like it gets earlier and earlier every 196 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 7: year where they have exhibition games for IU basketball. So 197 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 7: they start their first basketball game against it. It's against Marion. 198 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 7: So Marion has their athletic director is Steve Downing who 199 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 7: played at IU back in the seventies and they've always 200 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 7: just had that relationship. And Pat Knight coaches Marion nice Son, 201 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 7: so there's an IU relationship there between both schools. 202 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: And then the big game tomorrow. I you giving nine 203 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: million points to Michigan State, but that's homecoming. 204 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 7: That is homecoming. 205 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, Now, speaking of which, big news yesterday, Kurt Signetti, 206 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: the IU football coach, the best thing that ever happened 207 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: to him was James Franklin getting fired at Penn State 208 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: because he just signed a massive contract extension. Tell us 209 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: about it. 210 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 7: Well, So, I mean, I think that Pam Whitten and 211 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 7: Scott Dolson thought last year when they signed him to 212 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 7: a big extension, that's the president, that's the president and 213 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 7: the athletic director. I think they thought, well, this is 214 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 7: going to last a while. Well, James Franklin gets fired. 215 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 7: Kurt Signette's name is thrown around as a potential candidate 216 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 7: to replace Franklin at Penn State and from and I'm 217 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 7: not surprised at all because from the conversations I've had 218 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 7: with Witten and Dolson, they are not going to let 219 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 7: Kurt Signette get away. 220 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: They're just not. 221 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 7: And so when I heard that Franklin got fired, and 222 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 7: you know, you know, Kurt Signette's from Pennsylvania, I was like, 223 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 7: they're not going to let this happen. They just won't. 224 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 7: So they they were able to go and remodify his deal, 225 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 7: and instead of having him stay through twenty thirty one, 226 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 7: it's now through twenty thirty three. And instead of him 227 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 7: making eight million, he's now making closer to twelve million. 228 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 7: But here's the funny thing. Under his old old salary, 229 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 7: he was like the eighteenth highest paid coaches. Well, I 230 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 7: was talking a few of my friends yesterday, there's no 231 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 7: way there are seventeen coaches in college football that are 232 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 7: better than than Kurt signetity. So they had to re 233 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 7: up his pay to make him, you know, more competitive 234 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 7: with some of the elite coaches, especially when you're coming 235 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 7: off that big win over Oregon. 236 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: So it's eight years, ninety three million dollars. 237 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 7: Yes, so it's eleven point six thereabouts, and it's making 238 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 7: per year. 239 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: It's guaranteed, right if they give him the boot, like 240 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: let's just say he turns into a bad coach overnight. 241 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, he gets it all. Yeah, he gets it all. 242 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 7: And then the buyout is massive. I don't know the 243 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 7: exact number, but it would probably be more than what 244 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 7: Jimbo Fisher got. I think Jimbo Fisher has the largest buyout, 245 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 7: which is like close to seventy seven million. 246 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: So it comes up to like eleven point six million 247 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: dollars a year. So he in two years will really 248 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: less than two years, went from making two million dollars 249 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: a year to eleven point six million dollars a year. 250 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 7: Yes, And ten years ago he said he was making 251 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 7: one hundred thirty thousand dollars. 252 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: He said that. 253 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 7: Last night on The Coaches Show with Tom Fischer, and 254 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 7: now he's making close to twelve million. 255 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: Okay, but the reality of this is he's probably worth it, 256 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: especially as the Big ten is rumored to be now 257 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: Michigan and US. He are apparently holding this up. But 258 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: in some deal that could be worth two billion dollars 259 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: for this conglomerate or whatever they're looking at putting together 260 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: to make money off rights deals, each of the schools 261 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: will be in for at least one hund one hundred million. 262 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean, football and basketball are the drivers on this 263 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: for if your IU, you can't let the guy go, Yeah, 264 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: you definitely can't. 265 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 7: And especially with you know, most of your money coming 266 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 7: from football sales and ticket sales, With that and all, 267 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 7: there's just so many people that come to football games 268 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 7: compared to other sports. And when people ask me, well, 269 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 7: why does football drive so much of this, Well, A 270 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 7: lot of it's about attendance. And then when you sell 271 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 7: out your stadiums constantly, then you build bigger stadiums, like 272 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 7: so IU stadium holds about a little over fifty thousand. 273 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: Is that the John Mellencamp Field. Is that what it's called. 274 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: That's that's the practice field. Mart Memorial Stadium is what 275 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: holds closer to fifty five. He only gave enough to 276 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: get the practice field named after a methan Yeah. Yeah, 277 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: is there like a menu when you give Well, I 278 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: want the factual field name it. Okay, that's gonna cost us. 279 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: What about the practice field, Well, here's gonna be okay, 280 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: I'll write a check for that. Yeah, I don't know. 281 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: There's a lot that goes on behind the scenes there. 282 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: John Herrick from the WBC Newsroom is our guest. He's 283 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: also the pregame halftime postgame host for IU football and basketball. 284 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: You can hear him tonight. In fact, right here on 285 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: WIBC i U basketball starts tonight. So, but when you 286 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: think about it from an economic standpoint, people are going 287 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: to IU football games now, yeah, no offense. Somebody was 288 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: going to the games two years ago. 289 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 7: No, they weren't. 290 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: So you're almost getting your money back just based on that. 291 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean you're basically, I mean, he's bringing so 292 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 7: much money into the university just before anybody shows up 293 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 7: to the game to buy a hot dog. I mean 294 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 7: He's just the interest in the buzz around AU football 295 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 7: has been in a level it's never been before. I 296 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 7: mean there's been different seasons where they've had one good 297 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 7: season here and there, and then they fall off the map. 298 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: Ethan, I wish everye could see either. Now you can't. 299 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: If you go to the YouTube chat, look your jaw 300 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: is hitting the four. Because and this is why I said, 301 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: I've taken this off your plate, even because I know 302 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: you don't do sports, think about this. The guy was 303 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: making two million dollars two years ago and now he's 304 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: making an eleven point six million guarantee. The main takeaway 305 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: for me is that at least college universities have the 306 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: ability to build their own sports stadiums. I wonder how 307 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: long it is before we start having to call up 308 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: and pay for those too, just like we do Lucas 309 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: Oil Stadium. That's a good point. I mean, at least 310 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: they're generating enough income to make it self sustaining. Regardless 311 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: of whether I can even build another stadium, I know 312 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: they just do a bunch of stuff and I used to. 313 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, they've been upgrading it, and I do think at 314 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 7: some point that they are going to make upgrades Kurt 315 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 7: Signetti had said in the off season that that press 316 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 7: box is going to come down, which I know Don 317 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 7: Fisher would love to have happened, because it does need 318 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 7: to be upgraded, as do a lot of press boxes 319 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 7: around the big ten Penn States, which is. 320 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: All bad, awful, terrible, absolutely horrible. Yes state. 321 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 7: Yes, So when we went in there two years ago, 322 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 7: there's no room in that press box at all, And 323 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 7: so I just waited until Don set everything up. I'm like, 324 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 7: you're far more important. I'll wait till you get set 325 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 7: ups and then I'll sit in next to you. And 326 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 7: we were like elbow to elbow me him, but me 327 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 7: and him, rht Lewis and our stat guy were just 328 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 7: like all knuckle to knuckle at It's terrible in there. 329 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: You ever get tempted, like just when you're doing the 330 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: pregame show or something, just go on a rant about something. 331 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you got the live mic. 332 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 7: We do, but we yeah, we all kind of go 333 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 7: on rants during sometimes during commercial breaks. One time a 334 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 7: wasp flew in and it almost it came really close 335 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 7: to stinging Don. So I grabbed a water bottle and 336 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 7: I just killed this wasp and he's over here. Like, 337 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 7: what are you doing? I was like, saving your life 338 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 7: is what I'm doing. A wasp was getting near you, just. 339 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: Like here at WIV. You never get the credit you 340 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: deserve here, John Tonight IU basketball. What time does this 341 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: game start? 342 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 7: It starts at seven thirty. We go on at six thirty. 343 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 7: Very good, John Herrick, thank you, Thank you, guys, appreciate it. 344 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: Kenll The Casey Show ninety three WIBC. Trump's former national 345 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: security advisor, John Bolton has been indicted. It's overclassified documents. 346 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: It's all over classified documents these days. What do we 347 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: make of it? It's Kennlly Casey Show. I'm Rob Casey's 348 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: out today. Ethan Hatcher from Saturday Night on the Circle 349 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: in for Casey. Before we get to this programming note 350 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: coming up at ten o'clock, bo Bie, Democrat candidate for 351 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: Secretary of State, will be with us and a lot 352 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: of people are interested with what he has to say. 353 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: So that's coming up at ten o'clock. All right. So 354 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: John Bolton, he was a you know, national security guru 355 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: the Trump the Bush administration, and then for some reason 356 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: Trump brought him on even though he appears to be 357 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: in direct his philosophy philosophically in direct contrast, I mean, 358 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: he's seems to want to bomb everyone. Yeah, kill them all, 359 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: turned the entire continent into glassy as the John Bolton 360 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: foreign policy philosophy, which is very odd that Trump picked 361 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: him because Trump has kind of prided himself on being 362 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: the peace president and keeping us out of wars and 363 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: military conflicts. But he made the choice and then so Bolton, 364 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: it didn't go well, which I think everybody saw that 365 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: coming his time with Trump, and then he became a 366 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: fierce critic of the Trump administration after he was let go, 367 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: quit whatever you want to call it. And now he 368 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: finds himself under indictment over bringing classified documents into his 369 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: home and then sharing them with people via electronic messaging. 370 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: If the reports are true, then he deserves this indictment 371 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: because his handling of classified information was even domer than 372 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. Remember she had her private server. He didn't 373 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: keep this stuff on a private server. He put it 374 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: on Google. He put it on his private email and 375 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: then sent this to family members. So you want to 376 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: talk about misappropriation, mishandling a very sensitive information that was 377 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: later hacked by Iran. This is an investigation that does 378 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: I understand it goes back to twenty twenty two in 379 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: the Biden demonstration, So you can't even say, oh, it's 380 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump exacting political revenge on his opponents. No, no, no, 381 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: this goes back years now. Yeah, so CNN has a 382 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: big deep dive on this, and you're right, Ethan. One 383 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: of the big things is he alerted. I think it 384 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: was the FBI that his email in twenty twenty two 385 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: was hacked, and it was an Iranian believed to be 386 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: an Iranian actor that got in there and got the information. 387 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: And Craig Collins played this on the show this morning. 388 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: Craig was in for Tony that Bolton is a complete 389 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: hypocrite because he was all over the news shows when 390 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: Trump was under investigation and then later indictment over hand 391 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: handing classified documents, saying throw the book at it. They're 392 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: all hypocrites, Rob But Joe Biden was keeping classified documents 393 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: next to his corvette in the garage. So eighteen counts 394 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: of the indictment here is MSNBC as the indictment came 395 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: down in real time. 396 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, so John Bolton was charged with eighteen federal counts 397 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 8: and I apologize. I'm going to look down. I'm reading this. 398 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 8: We're still just getting this. We have the first eight 399 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 8: counts our transmission of national defense information. The second set 400 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 8: of nine counts those that's counts nine through eighteen is 401 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 8: retention of national defense information. And that looks like it's 402 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 8: US Code Title nineteen, section seven ninety three D and E, 403 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 8: which is part of the Espionage Act. Now, there was 404 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 8: another statute that they were considering, and it looks like 405 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 8: they've only charged him with those Espionage Act statutes. But 406 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 8: we're still reading through this indictment. It's twenty six pages long. 407 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 8: There's a lot of background information here, and I apologize, 408 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 8: but we're literally just getting this in right. 409 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: Now, okay, And I think the big thing, and again 410 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: we'll see what comes of this, is that via electronic messaging, 411 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: he was transmitting these documents to people in his family. Yeah, yeah, no, 412 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: I mean it gets a stupid are because this comes 413 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: from a lot of private notes that he was taking 414 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: and writing down by hand in a notepad, which is already, 415 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, not an ideal way to handle sensitive information, 416 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: but at least it can't be reproduced unless you upload 417 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: those handwritten notes to a digital device, which is exactly 418 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: what was going on, John, you've you've defeated the purpose 419 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: of a handwritten note. John, Yeah, I mean it's one 420 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: thing to say. And actually his defense seems to center 421 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: on the fact of well leaders, government leaders for years 422 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: have kept handwritten there. There we go. It is one 423 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: thing to have the documents on your person. Look, I 424 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: think I think we maybe get a little stringent on this, 425 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: Like people are moving countless files, et cetera, especially president's 426 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: vice presidents. Is their malicious intent, you know, I think 427 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: that's part of it. But it's one thing to have 428 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: it on your person. Hey, I brought this box of 429 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: stuff home with me, you know, made a mistake whatever. 430 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: But then to be as you said, taking these correspondents 431 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: and then uploading them to the internet or anybody can 432 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: and apparently did get into them, that's another story. Not 433 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: just the Internet, but specifically Google and as anybody who 434 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: has an ounce of knowledge about the technology industry. Google 435 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: checks everything that is uploaded to your Google Drive. AI 436 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: is constantly scanning and attempting to moderate potentially illicit or 437 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: illegal highly you know, sensitive materials that are moving through 438 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: their servers. Google knows anything that you're putting on to 439 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: a Google Drive. Google can access so Trump. Trump got 440 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: asked about Bolden, and in classic Trump fashion, he had 441 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: something to say. Just indicted by Branduri and Marylynd. Do 442 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: you have a reaction to that. I didn't know that 443 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: you told me for the first time. 444 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 5: But I think he's, you know, a bad person. 445 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: I think he's. 446 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 5: A bad guy. 447 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a bad guy, too bad. But that's the 448 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: way it goes. That's the way it goes, right, that's 449 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: the way it goes. Well, I have you reviewed the 450 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: case against him? No, I haven't. I haven't, But I 451 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: just think he's a bad person. Anybody else me have 452 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: no idea this was going on. Yeah, sure, buddy, But 453 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: I think he's a horrible person. I can believe that 454 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: Trump hasn't reviewed the case. No, I don't think he's 455 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: reviewed the case. But I think he knew exactly what 456 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: was going on. Sure, sure, right. And I'm torn on 457 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: this because on one end, it really does start to seem 458 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: like when you in rapid time, you have Letitia James, 459 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: Homie Bolton James coming, former FBI Director of Latita James 460 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: Attorney General New York, and now Bolton, fierce vocal high 461 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: profile critics, all being indicted within what a couple weeks 462 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: of each other. This does sort of seem like using 463 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: your office to get at your enemies. But then I 464 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: stop and go, well, they totally did it to him 465 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 1: first exact. But does that excuse I don't know if 466 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: that excuses you doing it back to them. I have 467 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: concerns as an American citizen about all of this. As 468 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: we said repeatedly when they were doing it to Trump, 469 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: that this seems very wrong. It also sort of seems 470 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: wrong that Trump is doing it back. But fair lack 471 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: show you in federal prison, you know you might be 472 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: a little pissed off too. They backed the wrong horse. 473 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: They were happy to dance on Donald Trump's grave when 474 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: they thought it was going to be another four years 475 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: of Biden or Kamala Harris. And then now you know, 476 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: the winds of fate have changed, all right, speaking of Trump, 477 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: So I thought there was there. You know, there's this 478 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: big cease fire in the Hamas Israel conflict, working towards 479 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: a peace agreement. Everybody's very excited. What we say. We said, 480 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: well wait a second, now, let's just hold everything. This 481 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: is a nice day that these hostages are coming home. 482 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: But how many times have we heard peace in our time, 483 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: and then very quickly everything just disintegrates again. I can't 484 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: believe that a couple pages of a peace treaty didn't 485 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: solve thousands of years of ethnic and religious hatred. Rob 486 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 1: I'm really shocked by that. Apparently Hamas is still doing 487 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: bad things, and Donald Trump wanted to send a message 488 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: to them. So I'd like to do a dramatic reading 489 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: of the the I don't know if this this tweet 490 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: or truth or wherever it was he with this on 491 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: social media. I'd like to do a dramatic reading. If 492 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: that's all right, Oh, absolutely, here we go. If Hamas 493 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: continues to kill people in Gaza, which is not the deal, 494 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: we will have no choice but to go ahead and 495 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: kill them. Thank you for your attention to this matter. 496 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: So the Hamas is under control, it seems to not 497 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: be going so well. Do these people not realize that 498 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: they're on a territory like a third of the size 499 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: of the city of Indianapolis limits it would be very 500 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: easy for the United States to completely obliterate them. It's 501 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: just fascinating to me though, that like we totally called it. 502 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: We're like these people may do things in the moment 503 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: to benefit them for self survival. But this is not 504 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: Scrooge waking up after being visited by three ghosts. They're 505 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: not gonna change. They never change. They don't want peace, 506 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: they don't care about you know, like we said Saudi Arabia, 507 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: you can deal with them because they want money, they 508 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: like stuff, they like prestige, they like power. These people, 509 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: they're just out to do damage. I've already seen that 510 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: they're harassing their own citizens who helped Israel in some way, 511 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: or who are attempting to leave the borders of Gaza like. 512 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: These people are monstrous, murderous savages. Yeah, all right, Okay, 513 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: when we come back Ethan have you do? You spend 514 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: a lot of time on the north side of Indianapolis, 515 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: but rarely, rarely. I don't have the money. They keep 516 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 1: hooligans like me out. They're trying to fight this out 517 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: of the market. I don't even have the money to 518 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: travel to that side of town. Well, you may have 519 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: seen that they've got those speed speed cameras up there, 520 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: oh on the highway for sixty five yes, yes, yes, 521 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: letting you know that if you speed in a construction zone, 522 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: you're in big trouble and we have some preliminary data 523 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: on how much money that has made for the government 524 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: at your expense. We'll tell you when we come back. 525 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: It's Kettel a Casey Show, ninety three WIBC. You people 526 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: need to slow down in the construction zones because you're 527 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: giving the government way too much money. It's Kettle a 528 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: Casey show. I'm rob Ethan's in for Casey today. So 529 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: this year, through the Act of the General Assembly, in 530 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: DOT began installing speed cameras at various construction zones across 531 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: the state of Indiana, and one of them now can 532 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: be found on the north side of Indianapolis on four 533 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: sixty five, and WTHR has the reporting on this. I 534 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: think some other news agencies do as well. That residents motorists, 535 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: according to them, with this Marion County work zone, are 536 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: getting one thousand tickets a day in terms of people 537 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: going over the speed limit. According to them, in DOT 538 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: has mailed one hundred and sixty eight thousand violation notices 539 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: in the first one hundred and fifty eight days of enforcement. 540 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, how many one hundred and sixty eight thousand 541 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: violation notices in the first one hundred and fifty eight 542 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: days of enforcement, don't we isn't the entire population of 543 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: Indianapolis something like eight hundred thousand people. Yeah, it's a 544 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: stary number, by the way. So specifically this is they 545 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: call it Interstate for sixty five, Interstate sixty nine work zone, 546 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: and the total amount of money that they have generated 547 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: is just over six hundred thousand dollars in fines. Now, 548 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: this is what's interesting about this is the way this works. 549 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: The first offense is a warning letter, the second offense 550 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: is a seventy five dollars fine, and the third or 551 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: more costs you one hundred and fifty dollars. And they've 552 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: already gotten six hundred thousand dollars at it what they have. Now, 553 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: I've said this because I've driven this twice, I think, 554 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: and I am a notorious rule follower, even when there's 555 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: no threat of financial penalty. I actually think this is 556 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: somewhat dangerous because me following the speed limit, me following 557 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: the rules, you're going so slow at this point, you're 558 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: so cognizant that you're you're almost a danger to yourself 559 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: in the flow of traffic because everyone else is kind 560 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: of still not doing it. So while yes, they're getting 561 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: a letter or a fine for not doing it. It's 562 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: creating a hazard for yourself. It was very nerve wracking 563 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: because you've got a window, right, It's like, forty five 564 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: is the speed limit? You can drive to fifty five 565 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: and not get the letter, But what's the fifty five? 566 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: Is the fifty five by their speedometer? Obviously it is, 567 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: but does that match up with your speedometer? So you're 568 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: constantly paying attention to your speedometer, still trying to go 569 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: with the flow of traffic. And I think it's creating 570 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: another safety hazard by doing this. I get wanting to 571 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: keep the construction workers safe. I get all that. I understand. 572 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm not disputing that, but I think there must be 573 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: a better way because as a rule follower, it was 574 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: probably making me less safe as a driver. Honestly, I'm 575 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: kind of surprised that they're keeping up to speed at 576 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: all up on that section of four to sixty five. 577 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: Aren't they constantly slowed down or being congested just because 578 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: the lane restrictions and construction anyway, Because how are people 579 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: even getting up past fifty five unless it's very earlier 580 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: in the morning or middle of the night. Maabe, It's 581 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: a nightmare so this was several months ago. I'd avoid 582 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: that side of town like the plague. Thankfully, as a 583 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: West side person, there's a very little reason for me 584 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: to ever have to be up there. It's very expensive. 585 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: They don't want you up there anyway. Rock Yes, you 586 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: and I cannot afford to go up there. But that 587 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: is the amount of money that has been generated so 588 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: far by this six hundred thousand dollars with one hundred 589 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: and sixty eight thousand violation notices sent. You know, back 590 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: in the Middle Ages, something that had to be contended 591 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: with if you were walking from village to village, or 592 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: if you had the enormous luxury of being able to 593 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: ride a horse to the next village was highway robbers. 594 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: Ah yes, and that that pre existed organized law enforcement 595 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: for the most part. But I thought that was the 596 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: whole point of having an organized civil society, was the 597 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: highway robbery was supposed to go away, and you're telling 598 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: me it's come back, and now it's in the form 599 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: of a camera. Look again, I think it's a tough 600 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: conversation to have because there are people who clearly abuse 601 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, the rules of decent society, which are, Hey, 602 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: you're in a construction zone where people are trying to 603 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: do their jobs, you got to protect those people. You 604 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: got to slow down, and everybody's got to kind of 605 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: work together. And when people refuse to do that, then 606 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: you're creating a very unsafe environment for those people who deserve, 607 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, reasonable reasonable amount of safety to do their jobs. 608 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: So how do you enforce that, I'm just saying, on 609 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: the other side of the equation, sometimes, especially when the 610 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: traffic is flowing in a certain manner, trying to make 611 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: sure you keep your automobile within a very distinct number 612 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: while also watching that and trying to drive and trying 613 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: to avoid everything that is very hectic. Well, you're demonstrating 614 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: is the insidious underside of this whole thing, which is 615 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: that it's not about safety at all. You know, they 616 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: coda in the veneer of this. You know safety, Oh, 617 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: it's a protecting construction workers and it's protecting you in 618 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: a construction zone. But it's about generating revenue, and they're 619 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: creating safety hazards in the process. Of course, it's about 620 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: getting revenue. It's a way they found that the public 621 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: would be sympathetic to to be able to generate revenue. Now, 622 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: and if you let them get in their foot in 623 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: the door, which now they have, you can bet more 624 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: of this is a common Well. So when we went 625 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: to Chicago a couple months ago of sixty five, there 626 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: was one of these zones, but there was nobody working. 627 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: There was nobody working in the zone, and so my 628 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: question is were those cameras even active? And if the 629 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: goal is to protect workers, which I understand, how can 630 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: you be giving people? I mean, there was nobody. It 631 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: wasn't like people were at lunch. It was like there's 632 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: nothing going on. And this was during the week, like 633 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: there was not a single worker the entire stretch of this, 634 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, Interstate sixty five, there was not a soul 635 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: to be seen that was doing any sort of work. 636 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: And so my question is are those cameras active then, 637 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: And if so, well, you're not really about protecting workers, 638 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: then clearly we're just about trying to get money from people. 639 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: The powers that be very much would like to turn 640 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: us into Chicago, and we're already outpacing Chicago when it 641 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: comes to crime. I'm not sure if you've looked at 642 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: the data for how much revenue that Chicago is taking 643 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: in from these speed cameras, but they are getting to 644 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: the tune of millions of dollars robed in some cases 645 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: from a single camera on a single street. It's nuts. 646 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 8: Yeah. 647 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: And then new factor in there. They're gonna they're going 648 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: to do these toll roads. It's just a matter of 649 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: time before brawn. Yeah, tolls, probably everything in exists in 650 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: seventy sixty five, it could be the only state that 651 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: tolls every stretch of the Interstate Highway. No other state 652 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: in the Union does that. Yeah, it's so any anyway, 653 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: I just want to update the public that that's if 654 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: you've gotten one of the those letters. Now, the first 655 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: letter is just supposed to be just a warning, so 656 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: hopefully you weren't getting uh, you weren't getting fined for that. 657 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: All right, So we got a couple of big things 658 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: we got to get to next hour. The first thing 659 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: out I want to just tease this real quick, is 660 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: someone shot up one of your houses. Mm hmm, Well, 661 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: well I think it was a couple of people. It's more, 662 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: it looked like two different calibers of bullets, and they came. 663 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: The bullets came from two different directions like they were 664 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: they were They turned the place into Swiss Cheese Rock. 665 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: You tweeted this out. What's your Twitter handle? You can 666 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: follow me at Ethan Hatcher. That's my name, E t 667 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: h E n h A t c h E R 668 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: at Ethan Hatcher on Twitter or on my podcasting page 669 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 1: Saturday Night on the Circle dot Fireside dot FM. Okay, 670 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: so you have the photos up of what we're going 671 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: to talk about next hour, because this no pun intended. 672 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: It blew my mind that somebody, I mean, the brazen 673 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: nature of this and the visual of it is simply unbelievable. 674 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that next hour and the big thing 675 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: when we come back. Bo bye. Democrat candidate for Secretary 676 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: of State, son of Evan By, former governor and senator, 677 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: grandson of birch By, famous center from Indiana. He is 678 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: running for secretary of State and he is going to 679 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: sit down with us for the first part of the 680 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: hour next hour and talk about this campaign and even 681 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be fascinated to get your perspective on this, 682 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: because he really is the last hope for the Democrats. 683 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: If this fails, the Democrat, if he fails, all the 684 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: money he's raising the name the pedigree. If he fails 685 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: and running against all probably what will likely be a 686 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: horrible candidate in Diego Morales. If they can't win that one, 687 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 1: they might as well just fold it up as a party. Yeah, 688 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this is gonna be a very interesting conversation. 689 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: He has every advantage and if they fail to capitalize it, 690 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: then they deserve capitalize on it. Then they deserve to lose, 691 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: all right, bo By Coming up next, Kennelly Casey Show, 692 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: Natty three, WIBC.