WEBVTT - Lanterns - “OutKast” (S1, E3) 0:00:01.690 --> 0:00:03.349 The Frames Per Second Podcast. 0:00:09.310 --> 0:00:12.590 Welcome to another episode of the Frames Per Second Podcast. 0:00:13.390 --> 0:00:19.630 We are back doing our weekly recaps on Lanterns. And 0:00:19.650 --> 0:00:23.690 we are here for Season 1, Episode 3. This episode 0:00:23.750 --> 0:00:27.150 is titled Outcast. And with me I have Ken. 0:00:27.170 --> 0:00:30.150 Hola. And Spike Lue. 0:00:31.140 --> 0:00:31.680 What up, though? 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:33.280 What's happening, man? 0:00:35.220 --> 0:00:37.820 Yeah, man, we here for another week. So let's get 0:00:37.860 --> 0:00:40.780 right into it. Ken, what's your overall thoughts of this episode? 0:00:43.060 --> 0:00:43.480 Loved it. 0:00:43.740 --> 0:00:46.280 I think even though we're only three episodes in, it 0:00:46.979 --> 0:00:52.800 is the best episode of the season so far. I 0:00:52.820 --> 0:00:54.680 think they did a good job of kind of giving 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.970 us a lot of meaningful information on Jon Stewart in 0:00:59.010 --> 0:01:03.100 this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.360 So I think they did a good job. 0:01:07.140 --> 0:01:08.199 Spike Lee, how you feeling? 0:01:09.740 --> 0:01:10.039 Same. 0:01:10.140 --> 0:01:12.560 I love the episode, man. Got the white folks mad. 0:01:12.580 --> 0:01:16.280 I didn't really think about it. I didn't really think 0:01:16.310 --> 0:01:18.610 about it while I was watching it. It crossed my 0:01:18.630 --> 0:01:20.650 mind a split second, and then I got some text 0:01:21.330 --> 0:01:27.530 today from some people. It was like, butthurt about this show. So, yeah, 0:01:27.630 --> 0:01:28.919 I liked it, man. I liked all of it. 0:01:29.050 --> 0:01:29.550 White people? 0:01:29.569 --> 0:01:31.229 The backstory. Yeah, yeah. 0:01:31.810 --> 0:01:31.950 Mm-hmm. 0:01:32.380 --> 0:01:33.770 White person was butthurt about it. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:35.600 Hmm. 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.100 That's insane, man. That's really insane. 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.560 But I did feel, I was like, damn, this episode black. 0:01:41.220 --> 0:01:43.300 It did feel black. You felt it, watching it. 0:01:43.340 --> 0:01:46.920 Yeah, I was like, yeah, this is, yeah, it felt good, uh, watching. 0:01:46.940 --> 0:01:48.050 So I'm with you, Ken. I loved it. 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.640 Um, especially, man, y'all know, if you, if you really 0:01:51.690 --> 0:01:54.930 know me, you know I love OutKast, so to have OutKast, uh, 0:01:55.030 --> 0:01:57.050 like a part of the episode, man, I was in there, 0:01:57.070 --> 0:02:03.030 I was sitting there happy as hell. Um, but, uh, Yeah, 0:02:03.090 --> 0:02:06.810 Nick might join us. He got a little technical difficulties 0:02:06.850 --> 0:02:08.730 he's working on, so he may join us later on. 0:02:08.810 --> 0:02:11.549 But I'm going to use his notes, y'all. So this 0:02:11.590 --> 0:02:13.470 could go great or this could go. 0:02:13.500 --> 0:02:13.580 We. 0:02:16.340 --> 0:02:18.419 Got the Nick sauce on these notes, so we're going 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.880 to see how it go. But we start off the 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.740 episode with us going back to 2016 and we see 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:29.020 Jon Stewart falling from the sky, landing into a sea. 0:02:28.870 --> 0:02:31.010 Of mattresses to break his fall. 0:02:31.410 --> 0:02:35.230 To what we learned is the first official meeting of 0:02:36.030 --> 0:02:39.110 the guardians for him. What did y'all think of our 0:02:39.150 --> 0:02:41.769 first introduction of one of the guardians? And what did 0:02:41.790 --> 0:02:42.990 y'all learn about their background? 0:02:46.530 --> 0:02:51.410 I liked it. I thought that it was, the way 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:55.919 they did this was really, really, really good because he's 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.960 falling out of the sky and then he's walking in 0:02:59.060 --> 0:03:02.350 office and he's sitting down. And you see these jumps 0:03:02.510 --> 0:03:05.630 to where they're using like the daylight to kind of 0:03:05.669 --> 0:03:10.460 tell the story of how time is elapsing. And I'm like, man, 0:03:10.470 --> 0:03:12.660 he must really want that job. I didn't even think 0:03:12.690 --> 0:03:16.200 for whatever reason that it was the guardians there and 0:03:16.220 --> 0:03:21.220 for the guardians to, to be there and, and for 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:26.639 him to like be awake and aware that whole time 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:31.070 really showed his, his dedication and, Um, and president is like, 0:03:31.090 --> 0:03:33.910 he really, he really, really wanted to get this job 0:03:34.419 --> 0:03:36.800 and one of the interviews for this job. I thought 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.740 what the guardian said, especially given all the, the, the 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:44.900 blowback to this was really interesting when he was having 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.100 that conversation about her in the forum or the, with 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.210 the guardian, I should say, and the form of the 0:03:50.250 --> 0:03:56.290 guardian took. And he said, this is more comfortable to 0:03:56.510 --> 0:04:02.779 the people in the, on Earth. Which, ironically enough, just 0:04:02.820 --> 0:04:05.780 happened to be a white person and a white woman 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:09.380 at that. So, but they must not know about the 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.480 way white women have been treated in this country, too. 0:04:11.540 --> 0:04:14.160 But either way I go, you know, I thought that 0:04:14.180 --> 0:04:14.700 was interesting. 0:04:16.290 --> 0:04:18.789 What do you mean the way white women have been treated? 0:04:19.870 --> 0:04:23.110 I'm kind of... If they want to come off non-threatening, right, 0:04:23.130 --> 0:04:25.170 if they want to come off non-threatening in how she 0:04:25.190 --> 0:04:27.570 was trying to portray it, then she took the perfect form. 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:33.190 middle-aged white woman. But I like this. I like the 0:04:33.230 --> 0:04:38.450 whole explanation of it. I like the sitting there in 0:04:38.470 --> 0:04:42.270 the office the whole day. All of this was good. 0:04:42.290 --> 0:04:47.310 It speaks to someone new like me watching this. This 0:04:47.390 --> 0:04:49.670 is giving me the backstory. I didn't feel lost once 0:04:49.710 --> 0:04:54.049 this episode. It helped me understand the previous two episodes 0:04:54.089 --> 0:04:57.070 and the relationship that he has with Hal. Is that 0:04:57.110 --> 0:05:02.599 his name? Mm-hmm. Yeah, the relationship he has with Hale. Like, exactly. Like, 0:05:02.650 --> 0:05:05.640 I'm getting it now. Like, oh, okay. You can go, Flacco. 0:05:07.620 --> 0:05:09.480 How disrespectful would it be to go to a job 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:11.480 interview and they leave you in the office overnight? 0:05:11.500 --> 0:05:11.820 Bro. 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:18.240 And they come back and ask you, are you still here? Oh, 0:05:18.260 --> 0:05:21.760 you still here? Fight somebody. 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:24.860 Yeah, I don't need that job, bro. 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.320 Bro, I don't need that job. Nah, not that bad, bro. Nah, 0:05:28.380 --> 0:05:29.820 not at all. I just thought it was somebody that 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:33.370 would be honest with you. That's true, too. I'm taking somebody. 0:05:33.450 --> 0:05:37.770 I believe it was something like this. He'll see. Something. 0:05:37.850 --> 0:05:39.990 If it's just a stapler, Ken, I got to have it. 0:05:40.029 --> 0:05:40.849 Damn, Spike. 0:05:43.610 --> 0:05:45.450 So who's the white man that came out of the 0:05:45.490 --> 0:05:49.360 room when John was talking, walking in? Do y'all know? 0:05:49.380 --> 0:05:55.099 Mm-mm. I thought it was just another ordinary white man. 0:05:56.130 --> 0:05:58.270 Nah, he's somebody. I watched the recap and they were 0:05:58.290 --> 0:05:58.839 talking about him. 0:05:59.570 --> 0:06:00.480 Oh, so he is somebody? 0:06:01.100 --> 0:06:06.839 Mm-hmm. They said his name is some old shit. I mean, overall, 0:06:06.860 --> 0:06:08.080 I liked all this. 0:06:08.220 --> 0:06:12.060 I was already excited for this episode because I saw 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.390 the preview in the last week and I knew we 0:06:15.410 --> 0:06:18.570 were going to focus on Jon Stewart. So I was like, 0:06:18.589 --> 0:06:21.430 all right, we can get a lot more story about 0:06:22.110 --> 0:06:24.230 why the hell this dude was getting shot like his 0:06:24.290 --> 0:06:26.510 daddy was shooting a gun at the apple off his head. 0:06:27.130 --> 0:06:28.290 I knew we were going to get a lot more 0:06:28.330 --> 0:06:29.410 backstory about John. 0:06:29.470 --> 0:06:31.589 So I was, I was really excited about that. So 0:06:31.610 --> 0:06:31.969 when we. 0:06:31.890 --> 0:06:34.039 Started here and he was doing the interview, I was like, 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.500 Oh yeah, they can definitely give us flashbacks into his 0:06:37.540 --> 0:06:41.800 psyche and who he was. Um, did, did it make 0:06:41.860 --> 0:06:43.940 sense to y'all why the guardians wanted to do a 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.789 in-person interview rather than just let the ring shoes people? 0:06:47.610 --> 0:06:54.360 Spike? Yeah. Based off, uh, The villain or the last 0:06:54.380 --> 0:06:58.680 person that we know? It seems that they are vetting 0:06:58.740 --> 0:07:00.560 people because they want people to do what they say. 0:07:01.260 --> 0:07:04.200 They're looking for somebody that's loyal versus somebody that's just 0:07:04.220 --> 0:07:06.870 got the power to yield the ring. So I learned 0:07:06.910 --> 0:07:09.790 it in my little recap video watches that this is 0:07:09.830 --> 0:07:11.610 the first time that they did this. They met in 0:07:11.650 --> 0:07:15.950 person with them and talked to them versus the ring choosing. 0:07:18.980 --> 0:07:21.580 I thought it was because humans are flawed and they 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:22.160 didn't know that. 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.960 What I saw it said that they knew humans were 0:07:28.020 --> 0:07:30.780 flawed and they're trying to figure out how to interact. 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:35.920 With them okay so they're switching up their process this 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.160 go around because of how Jordan's. 0:07:38.580 --> 0:07:42.800 Still his lingering connection with Sinestro. 0:07:46.180 --> 0:07:50.120 Okay at first I didn't take it that way until 0:07:50.170 --> 0:07:51.989 I could actually told us and then explain it a 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:58.220 little more I thought it was more so just a formality. 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:01.600 Because it seemed like. 0:08:03.530 --> 0:08:06.010 When we saw it in episode one, how attached she 0:08:06.070 --> 0:08:08.190 was to being a Green Lantern, I thought maybe like 0:08:08.210 --> 0:08:10.410 there was something else that happened in between that time. 0:08:11.090 --> 0:08:13.050 So for me, I didn't really look at it as 0:08:13.070 --> 0:08:15.190 the how point that they later revealed. I thought maybe 0:08:15.210 --> 0:08:17.560 just somewhere along the lines, like they just like, oh, 0:08:18.740 --> 0:08:21.100 we don't get, because at this point, obviously I don't 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.810 know lore. Cause they've been well actually in the fuck 0:08:23.890 --> 0:08:27.650 out of me and Nick, but more so Nick, Nick, 0:08:27.950 --> 0:08:31.220 Nick's a fan. So they've been getting Nick ass, but, um, 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.439 so yeah, right now I'm just like, okay, I'm going 0:08:34.460 --> 0:08:34.670 to go on. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:35.500 It's just like you spike. 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.820 I'm just as lost as you, as far as the Lord, 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.380 I'm just acting like I don't know anything at this point. 0:08:40.420 --> 0:08:43.309 Cause I really don't. Uh, so I didn't, I thought 0:08:43.330 --> 0:08:50.070 it was maybe a formality in essence. Um, was John 0:08:50.150 --> 0:08:52.380 cocky or confident in his interview with the guardian? 0:08:52.390 --> 0:08:56.880 I think it was a little bit of both. And 0:08:56.900 --> 0:08:59.600 right from the start, once they showed us all the 0:08:59.620 --> 0:09:01.520 shit that he'd like, he'd been training for this since 0:09:01.540 --> 0:09:03.880 he was five years old. I think that you're going 0:09:03.900 --> 0:09:06.969 to have some level of confidence. If you've been training 0:09:06.990 --> 0:09:08.510 for something since she was five, like you ain't going 0:09:08.530 --> 0:09:09.480 to be able to hide it. 0:09:13.550 --> 0:09:21.319 Hmm. Uh, He was very sure of himself. So I 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:27.070 would say confident. Yeah, I would say confident. That's his purpose. 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:35.210 He believed in his purpose and his destiny. So he 0:09:35.270 --> 0:09:38.210 wasn't raised or trained to do anything else. And you 0:09:38.250 --> 0:09:38.950 see people like. 0:09:38.970 --> 0:09:46.960 Last question for. 0:09:48.790 --> 0:09:49.229 You broke it. 0:09:49.230 --> 0:09:52.339 There you go. Yeah, yeah, that's all right. 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:57.469 It can come across as cocky, but no, I think 0:09:57.510 --> 0:10:00.170 he was just really sure of himself and extremely confident. 0:10:02.510 --> 0:10:04.660 I think this is where, like, we get the first. 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.880 Well, based on the questions that Nick has prepared, I 0:10:08.900 --> 0:10:11.820 think if this came across your mind, this would be 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:15.420 the first time in the episode where being black plays 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:19.380 a major part to me because... You know, white men 0:10:19.420 --> 0:10:22.239 can walk in a room and be arrogant and it 0:10:22.300 --> 0:10:24.440 is considered cocky or confident. You know what I'm saying? 0:10:24.660 --> 0:10:26.570 But when black men actually have this feature or even 0:10:26.610 --> 0:10:29.010 as a black person, a black woman to like is 0:10:29.070 --> 0:10:31.370 viewed differently. It's like you're not supposed to feel so 0:10:31.450 --> 0:10:33.989 sure yourself. You're not supposed to feel like it's a 0:10:34.030 --> 0:10:35.210 guarantee to have this. 0:10:35.230 --> 0:10:35.929 You know what I'm saying? 0:10:35.950 --> 0:10:39.290 So to even be in this position of saying confident 0:10:39.350 --> 0:10:42.350 or cocky, I think that speaks to the blackness, like 0:10:42.410 --> 0:10:44.969 the blackness and like how we have to be a 0:10:45.010 --> 0:10:47.400 certain way in a room. But he was, I feel 0:10:47.420 --> 0:10:49.360 like he's just confident. Like, I worked my whole life 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.660 off of this shit. Like, that's like, I know I'm prepared. 0:10:53.300 --> 0:10:55.599 There's no reason I shouldn't get it. I am prepared 0:10:55.679 --> 0:11:01.020 for this. If I don't get it, I'm pretty sure 0:11:01.070 --> 0:11:02.870 it would have broke him. Because we see later on, like, 0:11:02.929 --> 0:11:04.429 and he thought it wasn't going to work. But I 0:11:04.450 --> 0:11:06.470 don't think he would have been like, I deserve that. 0:11:06.490 --> 0:11:07.190 You know what I'm saying? 0:11:07.250 --> 0:11:08.570 It was just like, well, I. 0:11:08.550 --> 0:11:09.110 Did all the work. 0:11:09.470 --> 0:11:11.750 And I think that's the difference between being confident. Yeah, 0:11:11.770 --> 0:11:14.550 that's the difference between being cocky and confident. Cocky is like, 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.260 You think you deserve everything that comes to you as 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.060 compared to being comedy. Like, I worked my ass off 0:11:19.100 --> 0:11:20.620 and I prepared for it. And that's what I felt 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:21.699 like Jon Stewart felt like. 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:26.439 That's a good point. Is this a thing in the comics? Like, 0:11:26.460 --> 0:11:28.260 this playing on his blackness at all? Or is this 0:11:28.350 --> 0:11:28.950 just for the show? 0:11:30.390 --> 0:11:34.170 So, based off the racism that I saw today, that 0:11:34.210 --> 0:11:36.970 I sent y'all as far as, like, them review bombing, everything. 0:11:37.650 --> 0:11:38.929 And they were like, why they got to put race 0:11:38.990 --> 0:11:41.429 in it? People were dropping panels where basically Jon Stewart 0:11:41.450 --> 0:11:44.390 talks about race, like the Greenlanders talk about race, like 0:11:44.429 --> 0:11:46.340 his race. They even talk about how Hal Jordan is 0:11:46.390 --> 0:11:51.099 racist in the comics. So it's a part. 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.960 Of the Lord. That's what I thought. I was like, 0:11:53.980 --> 0:11:56.479 they wouldn't just add this shit in here if it 0:11:57.260 --> 0:11:59.160 didn't have something to do with the comics, I thought. 0:11:59.179 --> 0:12:01.890 Because that's what I was explaining to the person texting me. 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.359 I was like, bro, you didn't even watch it. You're 0:12:04.380 --> 0:12:06.990 just looking at clips and you're talking about Oh, they 0:12:07.050 --> 0:12:09.929 forcing this in. He's like, no, it made sense. It 0:12:09.990 --> 0:12:11.670 made sense within what they was doing. 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:13.920 Man, people do this, bro. Tell me you the ism 0:12:13.940 --> 0:12:16.040 without telling me you the ism. Like, that's really all 0:12:16.059 --> 0:12:18.579 I hear when niggas do this. Just say you're racist 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:19.900 and you don't fuck with black people. That's all you 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:20.640 gotta tell me, bro. 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.370 All right, cool. You ain't gotta give me all these 0:12:23.390 --> 0:12:25.050 other complaints. Just say you're racist. All right, cool. 0:12:25.710 --> 0:12:27.430 I'll respect that more than you lying about all this 0:12:27.490 --> 0:12:30.850 other shit. but it's it's similar akin to i like 0:12:30.870 --> 0:12:32.670 people be like i don't want politics in my comics 0:12:32.730 --> 0:12:36.600 and it's like nigga comics are political like like niggas 0:12:36.620 --> 0:12:39.380 put messaging in it x-men was political like all this 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.760 shit is political and you don't you don't want politics 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.760 and wokeness in your shit but that's what it's. 0:12:43.700 --> 0:12:46.420 Just we don't agree with when they don't agree with 0:12:46.450 --> 0:12:48.850 the politics that's when they oh why is this in here. 0:12:49.330 --> 0:12:52.890 Exactly niggas are root for captain america but they don't 0:12:52.910 --> 0:12:54.370 want politics in their comics. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.380 You know, I think for that particular individual, I think 0:12:58.420 --> 0:13:01.990 it would help them to watch the episode so they 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:05.610 can have full context if they can stomach it. Because 0:13:05.650 --> 0:13:09.209 I don't think it was really, I think they did 0:13:09.230 --> 0:13:15.689 a really good job of kind of talking about these issues, 0:13:15.790 --> 0:13:19.809 but not coming across very messagey, if you ask me. 0:13:21.450 --> 0:13:24.150 From how I viewed it, there was just commentary here 0:13:24.170 --> 0:13:28.880 and there about certain things that that particular person has 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.900 to do or realize that his place in the world. 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:35.240 But outside of that, it was, it didn't seem like 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:36.620 it was that, that heavy handed. 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.280 It was not. And I agree with you. And that's 0:13:39.300 --> 0:13:41.540 what I, this person would agree with you too, but 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:45.730 they just listening to the feedback from people who did 0:13:45.770 --> 0:13:48.070 watch it and feel that way. So they kind of, 0:13:48.850 --> 0:13:50.650 like you said, if they can stomach it. So now 0:13:50.670 --> 0:13:52.070 they got this thing in the head where they won't 0:13:52.130 --> 0:13:54.209 watch it because they feel like it's just certain way. 0:13:54.910 --> 0:13:57.949 that these people who hated it are presenting it, versus 0:13:58.530 --> 0:14:01.150 it wasn't really heavy-handed at all. Like, I did feel 0:14:01.190 --> 0:14:04.790 like Jalen, yeah, it was a black episode, but it wasn't, like, preachy. 0:14:05.570 --> 0:14:08.689 It wasn't like some other stuff that I've seen that's 0:14:09.030 --> 0:14:12.319 way more overt than this is. So I just thought 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.160 it was normal. It was part of the story that 0:14:14.179 --> 0:14:15.700 they were telling. They didn't force this in here. 0:14:17.380 --> 0:14:22.280 Yeah. Go ahead, Kim. You know, I'm just going to say, 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.260 you know, he was created at a time where when 0:14:25.460 --> 0:14:29.350 he was created, they couldn't just not address it. You know, 0:14:29.380 --> 0:14:32.490 when they created this character, like it is part of 0:14:33.090 --> 0:14:37.750 who he is. It is part of Earth's history. So 0:14:37.770 --> 0:14:40.470 to just act like it didn't exist, as Jenna was 0:14:40.490 --> 0:14:44.630 saying earlier, it would be kind of crazy because that's 0:14:44.670 --> 0:14:46.320 not realistic at all. 0:14:49.810 --> 0:14:55.630 I was watching Justice League and the league goes back 0:14:55.690 --> 0:15:01.060 in time and Jon Stewart meets his comic book group 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.520 that basically he grew up reading and he ends up 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.080 teaming up with them and one of the dudes says, 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:08.440 you're a credit to your race, son. 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.340 And he's like, huh? Thank you. So it's like it's. 0:15:11.340 --> 0:15:14.910 Always been here, but people just it's just the climate 0:15:14.930 --> 0:15:17.170 that we in. Everybody wants to point it out. You 0:15:17.190 --> 0:15:19.610 know what I'm saying? And I guess the other part 0:15:19.690 --> 0:15:22.710 is when you don't really completely relate to something, you 0:15:22.730 --> 0:15:25.690 feel like it's a tack low key, especially when everything 0:15:25.750 --> 0:15:26.330 else has been. 0:15:26.190 --> 0:15:28.010 Relatable for them. And I was like, oh, oh my God, 0:15:28.030 --> 0:15:29.230 they make it a left turn, but. 0:15:29.150 --> 0:15:30.730 I don't relate to everything going on. 0:15:30.750 --> 0:15:31.990 And it's like, all right. 0:15:33.710 --> 0:15:36.070 But yeah, this was a great episode. I'm going to 0:15:36.190 --> 0:15:42.130 fuck who think otherwise. Like for real. Um, so we 0:15:42.170 --> 0:15:45.130 traveled back in time and we see that when John 0:15:45.150 --> 0:15:48.340 was a baby, we get a look at his father, 0:15:48.380 --> 0:15:51.160 who was actually chosen to be the Green Lantern, but 0:15:51.180 --> 0:15:53.160 he was too afraid to take the job offer. 0:15:53.830 --> 0:16:00.470 Any of y'all laugh at this scene? Wait, what was 0:16:00.490 --> 0:16:05.390 y'all laughing at? Which part? The funniest part. 0:16:05.010 --> 0:16:09.380 To me was when he was trying to explain to 0:16:09.420 --> 0:16:10.740 his wife why he was scared. 0:16:11.580 --> 0:16:13.140 She was like, what the fuck is this supposed to mean? 0:16:13.390 --> 0:16:16.330 I'm in a green ass bubble and I'm floating out 0:16:16.350 --> 0:16:17.370 the goddamn bed. 0:16:17.750 --> 0:16:24.390 Of course I'm afraid. Well, that's some black shit, too. 0:16:24.410 --> 0:16:26.740 That's some nigga shit right there. 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.020 Fuck, I ain't gonna be happy I'm in this shit, nigga. 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.020 This whole thing, how they played this out, because even 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.160 when she realized it later, she was so sorry. She 0:16:36.180 --> 0:16:39.190 was like, man, I'm I thought this motherfucker was crazy. Like, 0:16:39.210 --> 0:16:41.520 he telling us he got abducted by aliens and shit. 0:16:41.540 --> 0:16:45.060 That nigga crazy. But, like, I love how all of 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.660 this played out, and it was black as hell. Like 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.660 you said, like, just how he explained it, Ken, it 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.820 was like a nigga would, like, man, God, what? 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:53.240 Yeah, I'm scared. 0:16:53.300 --> 0:16:58.630 Like, what the fuck is he talking about? Yes, I'm scared. Shit. 0:16:58.730 --> 0:17:00.750 I'm scared the fuck out of her. Yeah, fuck that. Yeah, 0:17:00.770 --> 0:17:06.740 I'm like, I like this shit. Yeah, Lil Murda ain't 0:17:06.780 --> 0:17:10.699 know what to do, bruh. I ain't watched it, but 0:17:10.740 --> 0:17:12.659 I know he said that was him. 0:17:14.890 --> 0:17:17.869 Nah, I didn't laugh, but I mean, internally, I was 0:17:17.890 --> 0:17:20.939 thinking like, He ain't lying. I can't imagine being in 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.439 my bed and a green bubble would put me up 0:17:23.740 --> 0:17:24.850 and ask, are you afraid? 0:17:24.869 --> 0:17:26.169 Fuck yeah, I'm afraid. 0:17:26.250 --> 0:17:26.770 Yes. 0:17:28.410 --> 0:17:29.810 Like a nigga with you and with a gun. I 0:17:30.030 --> 0:17:34.590 thought y'all knew that. Ken, I would have thought they 0:17:34.609 --> 0:17:36.950 had the mind reading thing. If I lie, I die. 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.760 That's why I'm like, yes, nigga, I'm scared. I ain't like, yes. 0:17:40.300 --> 0:17:41.960 Put me down, shit. 0:17:42.260 --> 0:17:45.600 It's like you waking up to a gun like Tariq 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:46.240 and Power. 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.090 Yes, nigga, I'm afraid. Okay. 0:17:49.130 --> 0:17:51.550 That's a hell of a way. 0:17:51.170 --> 0:17:52.990 To interview, bro. 0:17:53.930 --> 0:17:54.990 I don't want this job. 0:17:55.450 --> 0:18:00.920 I'm good. Actually, you know what? No, thank you. I'm good. 0:18:01.500 --> 0:18:03.800 Hey, but he had it like a nigga after the fact, too, 0:18:03.820 --> 0:18:05.840 because you said, like, talking to his wife, like, man, 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:07.840 if it was another time, if that nigga would have 0:18:07.859 --> 0:18:10.119 came at me on another day, it would have been 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:11.520 a totally different story. 0:18:11.940 --> 0:18:13.760 He caught me at the wrong time on the wrong day. 0:18:13.770 --> 0:18:15.770 I really just wasn't expecting that the day I would 0:18:15.790 --> 0:18:19.550 have it on the day. Like, hey, listen, let him 0:18:19.570 --> 0:18:23.530 come back. Let him come back. It's funny. Oh, it's good. 0:18:32.260 --> 0:18:34.620 But now, what did y'all learn? 0:18:34.660 --> 0:18:37.300 What did y'all think about what happened next when John's 0:18:37.340 --> 0:18:42.080 father had like a slight mental breakdown and like realizing 0:18:42.100 --> 0:18:45.480 that he basically missed like the biggest job offer? What 0:18:45.510 --> 0:18:49.010 did y'all think of his mind state at that point? 0:18:52.270 --> 0:18:57.230 So it was. He realized that he missed out on 0:18:57.270 --> 0:19:01.240 a great opportunity. And then he saw it was given 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.419 to a white man. So who knows what he was 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.580 thinking in addition to that? Like this white man got 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.040 picked up and he was like, I'm not afraid. But 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.820 yet when I come and then I didn't get the job. 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.220 So I got, I lost this job to, to a 0:19:15.260 --> 0:19:18.740 white man. And, you know, it was a, it was 0:19:18.770 --> 0:19:21.810 an opportunity that he missed out on and. 0:19:22.630 --> 0:19:26.550 He struggled to adjust to that. 0:19:27.290 --> 0:19:32.610 So there was this sort of, regret um that that 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.710 he had because he he didn't get the opportunity that 0:19:35.910 --> 0:19:39.590 that he felt like belonged to him so uh so 0:19:39.609 --> 0:19:43.110 yeah and and he he couldn't adjust to that and 0:19:43.150 --> 0:19:46.409 he was weighing down on everybody in the family and 0:19:46.450 --> 0:19:51.189 you know taking this outside of that like because of 0:19:51.730 --> 0:19:57.960 that thing he became a broken man and you know 0:19:57.980 --> 0:20:00.920 it it and we'll get to the woman but she 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:07.100 had to hold this shit together because the External factors outside, 0:20:07.340 --> 0:20:12.120 some that were not in his control, had a pretty 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:15.720 traumatic effect on him from a mental standpoint. And he 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.400 couldn't take it. And he brought all that shit back 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:24.300 home to the point where he was losing his whole family. So, yeah, 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:25.139 it was a big moment. 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:30.260 Agreed, man. And they did a good job. Because it 0:20:30.300 --> 0:20:32.659 was subtle. It wasn't overhanded. They didn't sit in it 0:20:32.700 --> 0:20:35.760 too long and make it this emotional thing. But they 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:39.220 did a really good job of showing how impactful it was. 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.780 As Kim was saying, you have the wife who's impacted, 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.780 like her whole life trajectory changes because now she's trying 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.460 to prepare the son for it. You got the dad's 0:20:48.740 --> 0:20:52.100 life who's changed because he felt like he missed his chance. 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:54.440 You get the youngest son who they trained and who 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:57.520 now this is your whole life is about just this 0:20:57.580 --> 0:21:00.379 thing because your dad missed his chance. And then you 0:21:00.390 --> 0:21:03.080 also get the other kid who don't get attention, as 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:07.960 we've seen later, because everything's about him being the Green Lantern. 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.020 So all of that came from just him having this 0:21:11.060 --> 0:21:13.859 breakdown and thinking he missed his shot. I thought the 0:21:13.900 --> 0:21:17.200 tentacles of how it spread out from what they showed 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:17.840 was really dope. 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:22.560 And in a way that a lot of people, especially 0:21:22.619 --> 0:21:26.240 certain groups outside of us, will realize you can see 0:21:26.260 --> 0:21:32.560 the traumatic effects of what happened in the past and 0:21:32.619 --> 0:21:38.220 how generations behind it bear the brunt of that and 0:21:38.730 --> 0:21:43.889 suffer and struggle. And their life trajectory has changed. So 0:21:44.250 --> 0:21:51.190 these things get passed down to the kids. Become generational. 0:21:54.290 --> 0:21:57.990 What did y'all think of the overall... Just overall of 0:21:58.230 --> 0:22:00.369 the mom in this episode. What are y'all thoughts on 0:22:00.590 --> 0:22:01.090 her in this episode? 0:22:01.130 --> 0:22:04.090 A beast. I love the mom in this episode. I 0:22:04.190 --> 0:22:07.090 love the fact that being raised by a single mother 0:22:07.150 --> 0:22:11.679 and mostly women, just seeing her get in the mold. 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:13.639 She was like, alright, I'm going to take care of 0:22:13.660 --> 0:22:16.340 this shit. I'm going to make sure that you're prepared, 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:19.080 that you have what you're supposed to have. We'll get 0:22:19.100 --> 0:22:21.679 some assistance when we can from dad. He fucked up 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:24.929 right now, but I love how she stepped up and 0:22:24.990 --> 0:22:27.540 how it made her look as far as A lot 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:29.300 of people probably would have called it hard parenting and 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:31.740 it was, but it's still, she had an objective in 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:33.800 mind of what she wanted her son to be and 0:22:34.340 --> 0:22:37.060 the path that her life, that his life was going 0:22:37.100 --> 0:22:39.260 to take. And she took control. I loved her in 0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:39.820 this episode. 0:22:43.060 --> 0:22:47.359 The mom was interesting because she was definitely, definitely the 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:54.780 embodiment of a strong black woman running the household. from 0:22:54.800 --> 0:23:01.220 her strength of position and empathy and love as well. 0:23:01.290 --> 0:23:04.550 She was a glue for all of them. And she 0:23:04.570 --> 0:23:09.750 was strong when she needed to be and not weak, 0:23:09.910 --> 0:23:13.170 but caring when she needed to be. But still also 0:23:13.210 --> 0:23:19.080 somewhat stern, right? Because she understands, especially in her position, 0:23:20.300 --> 0:23:24.680 what it's like to grow up with color. on you. 0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:27.920 And she was not afraid either. 0:23:28.700 --> 0:23:32.109 When she ran into the alien, uh, as well, she 0:23:32.130 --> 0:23:34.119 was checking the alien. She was like, well, prove it, 0:23:34.810 --> 0:23:37.230 you know, and then invited it in to have, have 0:23:37.290 --> 0:23:41.410 coffee and have a conversation about, you know, what earth 0:23:41.510 --> 0:23:44.290 is like for people of color that they didn't even 0:23:44.330 --> 0:23:47.780 see or acknowledge because they're not familiar. But her line 0:23:47.820 --> 0:23:52.359 was like, even out there, we're still like last to 0:23:52.400 --> 0:24:00.080 be called. Um, So I loved everything that she gave 0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:05.240 to this show. And I felt really bad for her, too, 0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:10.430 because she had to carry that as well and get 0:24:10.470 --> 0:24:13.510 everybody through this. Because there really wasn't, outside of the 0:24:13.570 --> 0:24:19.730 diamond that they got, there really wasn't anything to gain 0:24:20.590 --> 0:24:24.740 from the sun becoming a garden outside of the fact 0:24:25.300 --> 0:24:29.780 That I can think of. But she was fixated on it. 0:24:30.100 --> 0:24:33.800 Was it because her husband could have had it? What 0:24:34.020 --> 0:24:38.450 was the driving force behind her wanting her son to 0:24:38.530 --> 0:24:40.850 get the thing that her husband did not get? 0:24:40.869 --> 0:24:44.810 I thought it was just because her husband missed his chance. 0:24:45.210 --> 0:24:47.710 That's the only motivation that I really just took from it. 0:24:48.619 --> 0:24:50.379 They had the opportunity to be a part of this 0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:52.619 thing and her husband missed it so her son wasn't 0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:59.369 going to miss it. I think I'm torn, man. I 0:24:59.410 --> 0:25:00.690 was torn while watching it, too. 0:25:01.890 --> 0:25:05.220 By the way, Jasmine Syphus Jones, like, she killed this, 0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:07.840 by the way. Like, and she fine. She been fine 0:25:07.859 --> 0:25:08.480 since Hamilton. 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:14.950 Like, been fine. Yes. But I was. 0:25:14.910 --> 0:25:20.500 Torn because there was also this pull of, like, energy 0:25:20.580 --> 0:25:23.420 as a black person that just loves black women and understanding, like, 0:25:23.540 --> 0:25:25.460 when a black woman is behind you, bro, like, you 0:25:25.660 --> 0:25:29.220 feel invincible, like, it's just, like, when she, as a mother, 0:25:29.460 --> 0:25:32.330 as a wife, as just anything, when you feel, like, 0:25:32.350 --> 0:25:34.210 the power of a black woman, bro, it just feels 0:25:34.230 --> 0:25:37.170 like you can take on anything, so that's the part 0:25:37.190 --> 0:25:39.430 of me that really resonated with me, but I also 0:25:39.470 --> 0:25:42.649 felt this piece of, like, man, that's a child, you 0:25:42.670 --> 0:25:44.430 putting all this burden on, you know what I'm saying, like, 0:25:44.859 --> 0:25:47.119 he don't have a childhood, he, like, his brothers are 0:25:47.140 --> 0:25:49.750 starting to hate him, like, you, you, you're telling him 0:25:49.790 --> 0:25:51.670 what his destiny is. And it's like, I don't really 0:25:51.730 --> 0:25:55.330 fuck with that at all. But again, like Ken said, 0:25:55.369 --> 0:25:57.790 I didn't really connect it, but yeah, it's like carry trauma. 0:25:57.830 --> 0:25:59.850 Like it's like how we do. A lot of times 0:25:59.869 --> 0:26:02.150 we do in black families, we do just like put 0:26:02.190 --> 0:26:07.389 things on our kids. Like, especially when your dad was 0:26:07.430 --> 0:26:09.689 a former football player or such and such, you have 0:26:09.710 --> 0:26:12.470 this expectation for your child to be something that you weren't. 0:26:12.890 --> 0:26:15.970 So you continue to push and push this idea onto them, 0:26:16.330 --> 0:26:19.620 which continues to traumatize them in their own way. So 0:26:19.670 --> 0:26:22.959 when John eventually starts having the conversation with the Guardian 0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:25.159 about his parents, it was interesting to me how he 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:28.719 was responding. Because it's like, are you sure that's how 0:26:28.740 --> 0:26:30.239 you really feel? Or are you saying it's because you 0:26:30.340 --> 0:26:33.439 need to get this job? Can you decipher between what 0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.159 you really feel compared to what you were told to 0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:38.880 feel to get this, what you were told is your destiny? 0:26:38.900 --> 0:26:41.659 I don't even think he knows. I think he was 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:45.600 programmed so bad. I think there was so much programming 0:26:45.660 --> 0:26:49.850 in him from the moment that he probably understood things 0:26:49.930 --> 0:26:53.280 that this is how i'm supposed to answer it's like 0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:55.080 to your point i don't even think the right answer 0:26:55.180 --> 0:26:58.000 is in his head the answer is this is what 0:26:58.020 --> 0:27:00.159 it's supposed to be this is what's been hammered in 0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:02.600 me and since i was five years old i don't 0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:05.830 even know the right emotional answer to give you that's 0:27:05.850 --> 0:27:08.530 what yeah and if. 0:27:08.490 --> 0:27:10.469 That's the case man again it ties back like to 0:27:10.510 --> 0:27:13.189 at least to me to me it ties back to 0:27:13.210 --> 0:27:16.020 like as black people, a lot of things we're taught 0:27:16.100 --> 0:27:17.399 is the way we're supposed to think and the way 0:27:17.420 --> 0:27:18.859 we're supposed to be and the way we're supposed to 0:27:18.900 --> 0:27:22.120 show up as compared to like what we actually feel, 0:27:22.180 --> 0:27:22.960 especially black men. 0:27:23.609 --> 0:27:23.879 Yeah. 0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:25.770 Like black men, we definitely do a lot of like 0:27:25.790 --> 0:27:28.670 showing up. So that way we don't, we aren't stigmatized 0:27:28.730 --> 0:27:32.130 and put in different boxes. Like, that's why I'm really 0:27:32.170 --> 0:27:33.869 on a journey to try to deconstruct what blackness is 0:27:33.910 --> 0:27:36.090 to me. Cause it's like, do I really fuck with 0:27:36.130 --> 0:27:37.670 this or do I fuck with it? Because the rest 0:27:37.710 --> 0:27:38.610 of the community. 0:27:38.270 --> 0:27:39.970 Fucks with it. I was told to fuck with it. 0:27:39.970 --> 0:27:43.629 You know what I'm saying? Um, So if that's the case, man. 0:27:43.650 --> 0:27:46.070 That makes this even a better episode to me. That's 0:27:46.090 --> 0:27:48.450 what they were really trying to hammer home to. So, Ken, 0:27:48.490 --> 0:27:50.910 I appreciate you bringing that to life for me. 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After threatening to leave, we also see 0:28:46.490 --> 0:28:49.030 that Bernie runs into the Guardian that we saw at 0:28:49.050 --> 0:28:51.790 the beginning of the episode and she apologizes for causing 0:28:52.110 --> 0:28:55.520 any mental and emotional harm to the Lanterns during the 0:28:55.540 --> 0:28:56.520 selection process. 0:28:57.500 --> 0:28:58.660 What did y'all think about. 0:28:59.980 --> 0:29:02.800 The reparations of the diamond? Like, out of all things 0:29:02.820 --> 0:29:04.240 they can give her, they gave her a diamond. 0:29:04.260 --> 0:29:08.050 That's a big-ass diamond, though. I feel like it was 0:29:08.070 --> 0:29:08.730 worth a lot of money. 0:29:09.230 --> 0:29:11.900 Put her under investigation, what John said. 0:29:13.300 --> 0:29:15.800 But, I mean, didn't they eventually figure it out, though, 0:29:15.900 --> 0:29:19.980 I would say? I guess, but still, like, shit. But, 0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.720 I mean, hey, she should know. I was looking at 0:29:22.740 --> 0:29:25.090 it like, shit, fuck being a ladder now. Like, you got, 0:29:26.030 --> 0:29:28.350 that had to make them millions of dollars at that, 0:29:28.390 --> 0:29:29.330 a big-ass dime. 0:29:30.490 --> 0:29:32.850 They spent all the money, though, didn't they? 0:29:32.890 --> 0:29:35.360 On what? I don't know. I don't know. 0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:36.100 She said it. 0:29:36.100 --> 0:29:38.920 She's like, we're running low on money. She did say that. 0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:40.420 She did say that. That's what I was wondering. I 0:29:40.420 --> 0:29:41.700 was like, where the fuck all the money from the 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.800 diamonds go? Because that's a lot of money from what 0:29:45.340 --> 0:29:48.500 I've seen in other movies with diamonds and their sizes. 0:29:48.780 --> 0:29:54.000 That's multi-millions of dollars, tens of millions of dollars. Or 0:29:54.020 --> 0:29:55.500 the government took half that money. 0:29:56.060 --> 0:29:58.380 Took more than half of it because it's like yeah 0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:00.360 ain't no way it came from now you can't keep all. 0:30:00.260 --> 0:30:02.580 This yeah that's true. 0:30:04.250 --> 0:30:09.850 It's it's well again the aliens have no idea of 0:30:09.890 --> 0:30:14.690 how money really works um so it just gave us 0:30:14.730 --> 0:30:17.140 something of value that it that it is. 0:30:17.060 --> 0:30:18.460 Aware of but. 0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:23.680 You can't give a black per black person a diamond 0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:25.480 like that and expect them to be able to have 0:30:25.500 --> 0:30:29.660 ease cashing it. It's just no way possible. They're going 0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:31.820 to think they stole it. They're going to think everything 0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:35.820 in the book simply because they're black. And that's what 0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:38.560 it was a very small line. 0:30:39.100 --> 0:30:41.560 That's the gift of the curse token. You got to 0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:44.720 go to the streets. They probably went and tried to 0:30:44.740 --> 0:30:47.430 get it legally done. You got to take that down 0:30:47.450 --> 0:30:50.470 to the streets. You got to go out there and 0:30:50.490 --> 0:30:53.590 see what everybody's talking about outside. before you take that 0:30:53.670 --> 0:30:55.830 anywhere near anything that's got anything to do with what 0:30:55.850 --> 0:30:56.750 they're going to call the police. 0:30:58.130 --> 0:30:59.890 Yeah, but then you're not going to get the full 0:30:59.930 --> 0:31:01.850 value of it. I'd have took pennies on the dollar 0:31:02.210 --> 0:31:03.930 to get rid of it, just to get rid of. 0:31:03.930 --> 0:31:05.600 It, and to get my money. 0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:07.740 All that shit I had to deal with, with my 0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.280 husband almost running me out the household until your blue 0:31:10.380 --> 0:31:13.120 ass showed up here? Nah, man, I'm getting every single 0:31:13.420 --> 0:31:13.860 damn thing. 0:31:13.980 --> 0:31:16.620 I would have went outside a million flats you can have. 0:31:17.290 --> 0:31:20.090 Million cash money, we gone, no negotiations. 0:31:20.150 --> 0:31:23.010 Spike, they ran out of damn near the full value. 0:31:23.030 --> 0:31:24.810 You think how fast they'll go through a million? 0:31:26.050 --> 0:31:28.230 So, hey, I've been hearing this lately, and I'm kind 0:31:28.250 --> 0:31:29.980 of curious to ask this question. 0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:32.140 How long do you think I can live off a 0:31:32.180 --> 0:31:37.440 million dollars? With no other income? Yeah. 0:31:39.980 --> 0:31:40.520 Not long. 0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:43.530 Five to seven years? 0:31:43.550 --> 0:31:43.620 Yes. 0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:51.070 If I'm paying all my bills and just not... If 0:31:51.090 --> 0:31:54.250 you're not trying to hold on... If I'm not trying 0:31:54.290 --> 0:31:56.489 to save no money and I'm living like I have 0:31:56.530 --> 0:31:59.750 a job, it wouldn't be no longer than five or 0:31:59.770 --> 0:32:03.170 seven years. Especially in today's economy. Shit. 0:32:04.230 --> 0:32:08.080 You need a million just to get started, especially when 0:32:08.130 --> 0:32:09.900 it comes to retirement and stuff like that. 0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:11.460 That's the launch point. 0:32:12.380 --> 0:32:17.660 And then from there... you have to find ways to 0:32:17.700 --> 0:32:22.900 have that millions of dollars generate income. So you have 0:32:22.940 --> 0:32:27.140 to find the right passive income investments that do that 0:32:27.270 --> 0:32:30.400 without the expensive fees. 0:32:30.220 --> 0:32:30.870 Attached to it. 0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:33.830 So money market accounts, treasuries, bonds, et cetera, et cetera, 0:32:34.410 --> 0:32:36.730 and find a way and dividends and stuff and then 0:32:36.750 --> 0:32:39.490 have that compound. But that's going to be hard to 0:32:39.550 --> 0:32:42.310 do because you're going to be taking money out, which reduces. 0:32:41.970 --> 0:32:45.350 The ability to compound it. But there are ways to 0:32:45.390 --> 0:32:45.790 do it. 0:32:46.650 --> 0:32:50.560 But at least 500 got to be making more money 0:32:50.860 --> 0:32:53.320 because depending on your expenses. 0:32:54.100 --> 0:32:57.180 Y'all niggas must be making some money. Because I don't 0:32:57.240 --> 0:33:00.920 see how five to seven years, I could stretch it 0:33:00.940 --> 0:33:02.140 a little bit longer than that. 0:33:02.300 --> 0:33:04.000 Nah, that's going to be it for you, Jay. I'm 0:33:04.060 --> 0:33:05.420 telling you, I promise you, bro. 0:33:05.540 --> 0:33:07.080 Listen, y'all say, so y'all making it seem like we. 0:33:08.940 --> 0:33:13.630 So even if you make 100K a year, I don't 0:33:13.650 --> 0:33:15.640 make $ 100, 000 a year. I keep it a book. I 0:33:15.660 --> 0:33:16.640 don't make $ 100, 000 a year. 0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:20.200 And I'm living the life I'm living right now. And 0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:23.120 half of it is gone. Well, a good portion of 0:33:23.140 --> 0:33:26.840 it is gone in taxes. You telling me you could 0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:30.219 only live five to seven years off a meal tax-free? 0:33:30.940 --> 0:33:31.960 With no other money coming in? 0:33:31.980 --> 0:33:32.100 Yeah. 0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:33.940 You say it now. You got $ 100, 000. 0:33:33.820 --> 0:33:34.680 Whatever you make, you. 0:33:34.580 --> 0:33:42.480 Make that consistently. You got money coming in. If that 0:33:42.580 --> 0:33:44.959 is just a lump sum over five to seven years, 0:33:45.020 --> 0:33:49.210 like it'll get scary quick. And you can be living 0:33:50.630 --> 0:33:51.770 amongst your means. 0:33:53.110 --> 0:33:55.930 You have to have, you have to really be like 0:33:56.090 --> 0:34:00.020 no debt. Um, the house has to be paid off, 0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.460 but remember you got to pay taxes on that. You're 0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:04.700 going to need gas, food and all that other stuff. 0:34:05.540 --> 0:34:10.969 So yeah, it, it, I mean, and it's possible that 0:34:10.989 --> 0:34:14.410 I'm thinking about because from a family of four, but 0:34:14.690 --> 0:34:19.000 even just thinking about if it was just me, yeah, 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:22.460 I think it will start to get low. Like, it 0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:27.040 has to make some money in order for you to 0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:27.710 keep it. 0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:30.380 Like, even just looking at this, like, let's say you 0:34:30.420 --> 0:34:34.310 just wanted to invest it, and you make, like, to 0:34:34.390 --> 0:34:39.170 make 75 grand a year, off your money, you're going 0:34:39.190 --> 0:34:43.360 to at least have to invest 75 with 1.5 million. 0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:44.700 Yeah. 0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:48.520 That's to make 75 grand off just not doing nothing. 0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:51.839 I get what y'all are saying. Y'all are saying that 0:34:51.860 --> 0:34:54.279 y'all need to be making money. If I already got 0:34:54.300 --> 0:34:57.049 what I got and I got a million dollars, I'm 0:34:57.090 --> 0:34:57.969 straight for a little bit. 0:34:59.010 --> 0:35:01.470 For five years, nigga. That's what it's been for five 0:35:01.489 --> 0:35:04.839 or seven years. It's going to be a little bit. 0:35:04.940 --> 0:35:08.399 I didn't think we lived it alive. Year three or four, Jaden, 0:35:08.420 --> 0:35:13.259 you're going to be like, God damn, now. Something's got 0:35:13.300 --> 0:35:16.719 to start shaking. Something's got to come in. Everything's been 0:35:16.739 --> 0:35:19.890 going out. By year three to five, you're going to 0:35:19.910 --> 0:35:23.190 be like, hold on. I might got to be a 0:35:23.210 --> 0:35:25.770 greeter at Walmart or something just to keep some income 0:35:25.810 --> 0:35:26.200 coming in. 0:35:27.170 --> 0:35:29.089 You could probably get a good 10 years off of it. 0:35:29.590 --> 0:35:31.069 I was about to say, I could probably get 10 years. 0:35:31.090 --> 0:35:33.149 I was about to say, the way you said five 0:35:33.210 --> 0:35:35.780 to seven, that's what I'm saying. The way you live in, 0:35:36.530 --> 0:35:40.000 you said five to seven, but that's beside the point. 0:35:40.020 --> 0:35:46.520 Let's get back to the episode. Was it in good 0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:48.880 faith to trust the Guardian? I think for her to 0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:52.359 trust the Guardian and do this. Being a black woman 0:35:52.410 --> 0:35:54.150 in America, was it in good faith for her to 0:35:54.190 --> 0:35:56.870 trust somebody who isn't even from this world? 0:35:57.739 --> 0:35:59.359 There was another person of color, Jalen. 0:35:59.380 --> 0:36:05.750 There you go. DEI. There's a DEI trust. 0:36:08.130 --> 0:36:14.050 You know, that took a lot for her to do that. But, 0:36:15.870 --> 0:36:18.009 you know, I think for them to come back and 0:36:18.050 --> 0:36:22.120 try to right their wrongs because they didn't understand how 0:36:22.739 --> 0:36:31.860 humans function and the dynamics of race in America I 0:36:31.910 --> 0:36:35.450 think they came across as someone that can trust because 0:36:35.469 --> 0:36:38.730 they operate from a different set of rules and I 0:36:38.750 --> 0:36:41.009 think she just went with her gut and trusted her 0:36:41.050 --> 0:36:45.529 gut that this person was being truthful in the things 0:36:45.570 --> 0:36:53.799 that they were saying so yeah but I mean what 0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:58.189 else you got to lose You already know what America is. So, shit, 0:36:58.930 --> 0:36:59.390 might as well. 0:36:59.410 --> 0:37:02.109 Yeah, that's how I looked at it. Like, what else 0:37:02.130 --> 0:37:04.950 you got to lose? Like, we all in at this point. Like, yeah, 0:37:04.969 --> 0:37:08.230 I trust you. Like, I'm trusting what you say because 0:37:08.370 --> 0:37:10.870 I wanted this thing so bad. My husband wanted this 0:37:10.910 --> 0:37:13.940 thing so bad. So, yeah, give me the diamond and 0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:20.060 let's get to work. Well, that's where Nick's notes end, 0:37:20.219 --> 0:37:20.620 by the way. 0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:21.540 So, we just going to be here. 0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.620 Dang, he got far. 0:37:25.700 --> 0:37:28.580 That wasn't even halfway, dude. That was a quarter of 0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.520 the way. So we about to be bouncing around, y'all. 0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:33.640 So I told y'all, we can go either way with 0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:34.120 Nick Notes. 0:37:35.340 --> 0:37:37.530 Facts. 0:37:38.070 --> 0:37:40.370 So what did y'all think about the backstory that we 0:37:40.390 --> 0:37:42.430 got about John and the military where he had to 0:37:42.469 --> 0:37:44.930 go on this mission? What did it teach y'all about 0:37:45.090 --> 0:37:48.270 John himself when he had this mission that he had 0:37:48.290 --> 0:37:48.469 to do? 0:37:49.980 --> 0:37:52.540 It made the sitting there at the job interview thing 0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:55.890 look like a piece of cake. Again, I love this 0:37:55.969 --> 0:37:59.390 episode because it built up who we was looking at 0:37:59.850 --> 0:38:02.730 the first two episodes. And I loved how they placed 0:38:02.790 --> 0:38:07.110 it because I didn't need this the first episode. I 0:38:07.130 --> 0:38:10.319 didn't need this the second episode. But giving it to 0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:13.160 me the third episode made those two much better because 0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:16.130 I had questions about this dude. When I'm watching him 0:38:16.170 --> 0:38:18.210 the first two times, I'm like, why he act like that? 0:38:18.270 --> 0:38:20.330 Why he got this little quirk? What's this little thing 0:38:20.350 --> 0:38:23.530 that he got with Hal? All of these little questions 0:38:23.570 --> 0:38:25.469 pop up in my mind, being a new viewer of this. 0:38:25.510 --> 0:38:28.200 But then I get this episode and you get that 0:38:28.300 --> 0:38:33.239 to your question, Jalen, that mission where they telling him, hey, bro, 0:38:33.260 --> 0:38:36.660 you're going to have to sit out here for maybe 0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:41.910 months on end and nothing's going to happen. And you 0:38:41.950 --> 0:38:44.050 can't move and you just got to be on your... 0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:47.259 P's and Q's. And when it do get ready to happen, 0:38:47.420 --> 0:38:48.860 you just got to be ready to do it. The 0:38:48.900 --> 0:38:51.280 last dude that went and did this, we didn't even 0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:52.870 hear from him. We won't even know where he at. 0:38:53.890 --> 0:38:56.430 And for him to be like, like just unfazed. And 0:38:56.450 --> 0:38:58.110 that's why I didn't think he was being cocky in 0:38:58.130 --> 0:39:01.549 the interview. Because this was prior to that interview, right? 0:39:01.890 --> 0:39:05.730 Or was it after? So he's been through things like this. 0:39:05.790 --> 0:39:09.250 And you're talking about like, oh, sitting here for overnight? Yeah, 0:39:09.469 --> 0:39:12.489 that's nothing to me. I sit for six, eight months 0:39:12.530 --> 0:39:15.489 to sniper and kill a dude like that. I do this. 0:39:16.110 --> 0:39:20.040 So all of this stuff of how he's just receiving 0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:22.860 hell and the hazing that he's doing to give him 0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:25.239 the Green Lantern thing. All of this stuff just adds 0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:27.580 up in this episode. And it's really good. 0:39:30.660 --> 0:39:35.560 Uh it definitely showed his his preparedness um you know 0:39:35.820 --> 0:39:39.200 he sometimes a little bit too much where he's a 0:39:39.300 --> 0:39:41.610 little too buttoned up when he went to meet with 0:39:41.630 --> 0:39:43.150 the guy he came in a full suit he was 0:39:43.190 --> 0:39:45.069 like bro we supposed to be undercover like what are 0:39:45.150 --> 0:39:48.020 you doing But he's dedicated to his job. 0:39:48.060 --> 0:39:50.120 He only knows one way, and that's how he was raised. 0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:52.960 So he's going to be fully committed to the task 0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:55.120 at hand, and that was him. 0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:57.700 What was really interesting, I wanted to see how he. 0:39:57.580 --> 0:40:02.590 Handled the lightning and splashing in the water and the injury. 0:40:03.130 --> 0:40:05.710 And none of that stuff really seemed to bother him 0:40:05.950 --> 0:40:08.930 at all. And hearing that he was there, what, nine 0:40:09.010 --> 0:40:15.810 months eating off bugs and berries, all for It to 0:40:16.010 --> 0:40:19.950 once again be taken away because of this white man, 0:40:19.989 --> 0:40:26.140 Hal Jordan. He sat there for nine months. Now, you know, 0:40:26.180 --> 0:40:30.920 he stank out there in the woods, eating all kind 0:40:30.980 --> 0:40:33.540 of damn stuff, even though she said he was a vegetarian. 0:40:34.060 --> 0:40:34.500 And right. 0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.739 We need to get an opportunity to take the shot 0:40:37.780 --> 0:40:38.800 and complete the mission. 0:40:40.660 --> 0:40:44.440 Just like that. It was snatched away from again. Hal Jordan. 0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:50.440 Coming along and messing up something that has to do 0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:54.030 with this family. I don't know if that's a metaphor. 0:40:54.090 --> 0:40:58.530 I don't know what they're trying to say. It's recurring, Spike. 0:40:59.770 --> 0:41:00.089 It is. 0:41:00.110 --> 0:41:08.549 I definitely spoke to Jon Stewart for sure. Understanding him 0:41:08.590 --> 0:41:13.810 a little bit more as far as he's very mission oriented. 0:41:13.830 --> 0:41:16.820 The idea is to either complete the mission to fail 0:41:16.890 --> 0:41:19.469 they're like there's no in between there's no nuance for 0:41:19.510 --> 0:41:21.989 him like he understands i have to do what i'm 0:41:22.010 --> 0:41:26.050 told to do and that's it um i can't remember 0:41:27.430 --> 0:41:28.870 what he said i think they say like the panic 0:41:28.890 --> 0:41:31.050 button he's like i'm not gonna call panic like it's 0:41:31.090 --> 0:41:34.469 just not gonna happen the job is to do what 0:41:34.530 --> 0:41:37.290 i'm supposed to do when i'm gonna do it um 0:41:37.650 --> 0:41:42.989 and when the guardian was asking about being uh dishonorably 0:41:43.430 --> 0:41:49.840 uh discharged is that correct He wasn't even willing to 0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.300 really get the details because he was just like, that's confidential. 0:41:52.460 --> 0:41:55.140 I'm not really supposed to say that. He's very much 0:41:55.260 --> 0:41:57.600 by the book. Very much by the book. Even for 0:41:57.660 --> 0:42:00.379 something that he knew he's been working his life off, 0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:04.330 he's like, I still owe this respect to my chain 0:42:04.350 --> 0:42:07.930 of command. You know what I'm saying? He's respectful and 0:42:08.030 --> 0:42:10.950 all the like. So, yeah, definitely gave us insight there. 0:42:10.969 --> 0:42:13.420 But then the part with how coming to take it, 0:42:13.870 --> 0:42:16.759 it's just like, damn, this nigga came and take some 0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:18.560 shit again from me. The white man just took that 0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:22.540 shit again. I felt that too, Ken, when it happened. 0:42:25.739 --> 0:42:28.930 Is this the dude from the preview we watched for 0:42:28.950 --> 0:42:34.890 the trade reviews? Yes. That's the same dude? Okay, gotcha. 0:42:34.910 --> 0:42:37.190 He getting some shine, man. He getting some rolls. He 0:42:37.210 --> 0:42:38.370 getting some rolls. 0:42:46.030 --> 0:42:49.700 What did y'all think about the scene where they were 0:42:49.739 --> 0:42:52.839 in the car and the brothers was picking on him 0:42:52.980 --> 0:42:58.600 about the ATLians, the song playing? What did y'all think 0:42:58.620 --> 0:43:01.100 about this dynamic between him and the brothers at that time? 0:43:02.620 --> 0:43:04.719 That's when I said what you was talking about, Jack. 0:43:04.739 --> 0:43:08.150 This is a black ass episode. Because that's how we 0:43:08.290 --> 0:43:10.610 are as little black kids. We do the same thing 0:43:10.650 --> 0:43:13.689 to your little corny cousin that maybe can't, what you think, 0:43:13.730 --> 0:43:16.469 don't know the words. And then they may surprise you. 0:43:16.489 --> 0:43:18.230 They do know the words. And it's a big thing. 0:43:18.250 --> 0:43:21.420 I thought this was dope. Like, even the episode title 0:43:21.460 --> 0:43:24.239 being called out, because them hazing him, acting like he 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:27.500 don't know it, him actually knowing the song. And I just, 0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:29.460 this was black as fuck. I liked it. 0:43:31.180 --> 0:43:35.089 It made me think about how he really hasn't had 0:43:35.110 --> 0:43:39.590 an opportunity to be a kid. You know, everybody else 0:43:39.790 --> 0:43:42.590 get to play and have fun and listen to music 0:43:42.630 --> 0:43:44.989 and do this, that, and the other. And we learned 0:43:45.030 --> 0:43:48.470 that he is doing these things on his own time 0:43:48.489 --> 0:43:51.430 in his spare time, probably away from the from his parents. 0:43:51.489 --> 0:43:52.270 His parents probably don't. 0:43:52.180 --> 0:43:56.560 Know about it. But even in that moment where you 0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:59.140 get a chance to bond and spend time with his brothers, 0:43:59.580 --> 0:44:03.620 which came up later, the Guardian kind of provided some 0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:06.680 more insight into that. It got snatched away because he 0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:08.540 got to get back on task, got to get back 0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:11.530 on the mission. and dropped him off in the city 0:44:11.570 --> 0:44:14.830 to walk all the way back home. And then when 0:44:14.850 --> 0:44:18.730 he get home, he breaks down in tears because all 0:44:18.770 --> 0:44:21.900 he wanted to do was sit there and listen to 0:44:21.930 --> 0:44:25.450 music and enjoy this moment with his brothers. And it just, 0:44:25.570 --> 0:44:29.140 in that one scene, you see that he doesn't really 0:44:29.180 --> 0:44:31.200 get a chance to spend a lot of time with them. 0:44:31.340 --> 0:44:33.399 And even they were kind of echoing that and even 0:44:33.460 --> 0:44:35.460 clowning him for the way he taught. Like he grew 0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:37.560 up in the same household, but they were talking like, oh, 0:44:37.580 --> 0:44:39.660 you sound like some white guy or something like that, 0:44:40.060 --> 0:44:41.379 which was interesting too. 0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:45.240 Yeah, yeah. 0:44:45.420 --> 0:44:48.680 It was definitely tough to take, especially when you walk 0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:50.160 in the house and all your moms say was like, 0:44:50.180 --> 0:44:52.910 I got your dinner. I mean, you could also tell 0:44:52.950 --> 0:44:54.950 that it broke her a little bit to have to 0:44:54.969 --> 0:44:58.830 do that. She was just doing what she felt was 0:44:58.969 --> 0:45:00.430 needed for him in that moment. 0:45:01.230 --> 0:45:02.850 But yeah, that right there. 0:45:02.710 --> 0:45:08.190 Was like very much a gut punch. Because, man, like, 0:45:09.350 --> 0:45:11.390 I can, like, honestly, for him to know the words, 0:45:11.410 --> 0:45:12.810 I thought he was going to fuck up the words, too. 0:45:12.930 --> 0:45:15.300 I was like, you ain't got time to be learning 0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:15.719 this shit. 0:45:15.780 --> 0:45:17.080 You know what I'm saying? And that's how they felt. 0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:18.540 Like, man, they got you doing all this other stuff. 0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:19.320 You don't even know. 0:45:19.540 --> 0:45:20.700 I know you don't know this. 0:45:20.780 --> 0:45:22.500 I know you don't know the words to this. And 0:45:22.540 --> 0:45:25.120 so when he did it, even though I was kind 0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:26.470 of like, the way you're saying it. 0:45:29.830 --> 0:45:31.290 But you knew the words. 0:45:31.330 --> 0:45:33.049 You know what I'm saying? 0:45:33.630 --> 0:45:39.120 So this was real big. I like this also because 0:45:39.140 --> 0:45:43.410 I feel like ain't nobody gonna fuck with no little kid, 0:45:43.530 --> 0:45:46.790 little black kid walking through the hood. Like, regardless if 0:45:46.810 --> 0:45:48.650 they know what you got going on or if it's 0:45:48.770 --> 0:45:52.049 parents or not, like, he would have been able to really, like, 0:45:52.090 --> 0:45:55.810 just walk through pretty safely at that age. 0:45:57.660 --> 0:45:58.779 I don't think it was about. 0:45:59.040 --> 0:45:59.600 Like, niggas would. 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:01.700 Have been pressing him. He too young. Like, if he 0:46:01.739 --> 0:46:04.419 was older, maybe somebody would have pressed him on some, like, 0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:07.680 some hood shit. But at that age, I feel like 0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:12.350 it was it wasn't egregious to test him in that way, 0:46:12.410 --> 0:46:15.290 because I do feel like most people are going to 0:46:15.310 --> 0:46:17.450 leave him alone. Like you got to be really like 0:46:17.489 --> 0:46:21.070 a sick fuck to let him like something going to happen. 0:46:21.890 --> 0:46:24.290 I don't think he'll that age. So I think it 0:46:24.310 --> 0:46:25.330 was OK test. 0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:29.580 Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. OK. Now I see what you're saying, 0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:32.890 because there are. sick folks out there, but you can 0:46:32.969 --> 0:46:36.229 hear the dialogue. It was like, hey, what's up little man? Yeah, 0:46:36.250 --> 0:46:40.410 that's how it's going to primarily be. Yeah, but it 0:46:40.489 --> 0:46:47.570 really was about what you're saying is that I'm really 90% 0:46:48.290 --> 0:46:54.200 sure that he'll be okay. Let me see if he 0:46:54.380 --> 0:46:58.060 will have the strength and the resolve and confidence and 0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:02.820 lack of fear to make this walk and be confident 0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:06.700 that he'll be okay. So can he complete the mission? And, 0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:11.500 you know, once he got going, you know, he did. 0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:17.160 He walked through and got home. And his crying wasn't 0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:19.890 about him being afraid or anything. 0:47:19.910 --> 0:47:22.870 It was just about I didn't get a chance to play. 0:47:23.090 --> 0:47:23.610 Y'all took that. 0:47:23.630 --> 0:47:24.170 I had to do that. 0:47:24.610 --> 0:47:25.270 Yeah, I had to do that. 0:47:25.410 --> 0:47:27.460 I had to go be like, a little mini adult 0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:29.200 right then. That's what the crime was about. That's how 0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:31.890 I took it. It wasn't, again, that I was scared 0:47:31.950 --> 0:47:34.430 or terrified that that happened to me. It was like, man, 0:47:34.469 --> 0:47:39.609 I wanted to do outcasts with my friends. See, that's 0:47:39.630 --> 0:47:41.109 why I thought this episode was black as fuck, because 0:47:41.130 --> 0:47:44.250 I don't really think white people, and I may be 0:47:44.270 --> 0:47:46.530 speaking in general here, I don't think they really understood that. 0:47:47.219 --> 0:47:49.000 I think as little black kids, we get put in 0:47:49.020 --> 0:47:53.660 those scenarios sometimes from family members or people that you 0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:56.569 care about or love And you know it wasn't out of, 0:47:56.590 --> 0:47:59.890 it's not malicious at all. It's just like, nah, you 0:47:59.910 --> 0:48:01.670 got to go do that because that's just a part 0:48:01.690 --> 0:48:02.270 of you growing up. 0:48:03.770 --> 0:48:06.700 I think it was whenever she said something about privilege, 0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:10.020 I think that probably was the trigger word for a 0:48:10.060 --> 0:48:10.500 lot of them. 0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:14.100 Yeah, she did say privilege before. 0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:19.069 But this is like, as bad as it is, like 0:48:19.650 --> 0:48:22.390 when you're told if you go to school you get 0:48:22.430 --> 0:48:24.149 your ass beat, or. 0:48:24.090 --> 0:48:24.770 Like if your siblings. 0:48:25.010 --> 0:48:27.090 if your sibling don't let your sibling get to be 0:48:27.110 --> 0:48:28.390 in the fight and your ass ain't jump in it. 0:48:28.489 --> 0:48:30.530 You know what I'm saying? Like it's, it's certain things 0:48:30.610 --> 0:48:33.759 as black people, it's just like, you know, you gotta know, 0:48:33.780 --> 0:48:35.219 you just gotta go do it. Like, this is how 0:48:35.260 --> 0:48:37.520 it is. Like it may not be, it may not 0:48:37.580 --> 0:48:40.620 be right per se, but it's what we have to 0:48:40.660 --> 0:48:43.140 do because of the circumstances that are built around us 0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:45.049 that we just got to learn to get like thicker 0:48:45.070 --> 0:48:48.250 skin to do this shit. So yeah, that's, that's definitely 0:48:48.910 --> 0:48:52.259 on that. Hit it on the head there. Um, Well, 0:48:52.300 --> 0:48:56.200 we didn't eventually see. We learned about the birds. I 0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:59.589 figured it connected back to something in the last episode. 0:48:59.610 --> 0:49:01.910 We learned that basically the birds were supposed to be 0:49:02.290 --> 0:49:06.810 watching him. The guardians were watching him. But his mom 0:49:06.910 --> 0:49:11.370 admits that that's not completely true. That she doesn't know 0:49:11.390 --> 0:49:16.149 when the guardians are going to come back. But he 0:49:16.210 --> 0:49:17.530 keeps saying that he ain't scared. 0:49:17.550 --> 0:49:19.650 Yeah. 0:49:20.070 --> 0:49:22.590 That he can do it right now. You know what 0:49:22.610 --> 0:49:28.100 I'm saying? That he good. And so she tells him, well, nigga, 0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:30.759 shoot the gun off your daddy's head and say your 0:49:30.780 --> 0:49:35.759 daddy's shooting the apple off your head. What y'all think 0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:39.069 of this scene before he actually does the whoop-dee-doo to 0:49:39.110 --> 0:49:39.339 his mom? 0:49:42.969 --> 0:49:45.870 They did a good scene. They set it up well, man. Like, 0:49:46.310 --> 0:49:50.480 this episode, they're doing the due diligence of taking their 0:49:50.580 --> 0:49:54.319 time to get to places and scenes. Like, they ain't 0:49:54.380 --> 0:49:59.020 rushing shit. They making it set up very good. Like, 0:49:59.060 --> 0:50:01.540 him not even being able to do it. Him, like, 0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:04.760 just being scared to do it, even though he thought 0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:07.469 he wasn't scared. And then the birds showing. Like, all 0:50:07.510 --> 0:50:10.989 of it was great. Even the mom, like, not even being, like, 0:50:11.010 --> 0:50:12.910 I ain't even trying to coddle you in this moment. 0:50:13.050 --> 0:50:14.700 It is what it is. Like, watching you, bro. Like, 0:50:15.180 --> 0:50:17.480 we training you for this. This is some Kobe Bryant shit. 0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:23.259 This is some Mamba mentality shit, right? Like, I love that. 0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:28.049 Yeah, it was a really, really good conversation that she 0:50:28.090 --> 0:50:31.310 had and just being upfront and honest with him. And 0:50:31.370 --> 0:50:34.509 it really gave him the confidence that he needed, that 0:50:34.550 --> 0:50:35.250 he lacked. 0:50:35.820 --> 0:50:38.060 Because he did have fear that he. 0:50:38.020 --> 0:50:40.910 Was going to, even though he was really, really good, 0:50:40.930 --> 0:50:43.450 because they said earlier he can shoot a moth out 0:50:43.469 --> 0:50:45.430 of the sky or he can shoot from a mile away. 0:50:45.510 --> 0:50:49.049 So just little audible things that they did, they told 0:50:49.110 --> 0:50:51.660 us that in terms of shooting, he's really good at it. 0:50:52.340 --> 0:50:55.839 But when there's somebody there in front of you that 0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:59.120 you love, then you have fear. And that fear can 0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:02.000 lead to a mistake because you have to be focused 0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:05.730 and locked in. Just one slight twitch or whatever, your 0:51:05.790 --> 0:51:10.009 heart's racing or whatever, it's a wrap. But she talked 0:51:10.050 --> 0:51:12.690 a little bit too much shit and put herself in 0:51:12.710 --> 0:51:13.330 that situation. 0:51:13.390 --> 0:51:18.060 She was fucking terrified. And I thought for. 0:51:17.969 --> 0:51:22.060 Whatever reason, not for whatever reason, I don't remember ever 0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:24.200 seeing the mom in the first couple episodes, so I 0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:27.900 thought he was going to shoot her. I thought so too. Yeah, 0:51:27.940 --> 0:51:31.080 I was like, dang, bro. And that's what hardened him 0:51:31.770 --> 0:51:36.680 and made him into the person he was. But no, 0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:40.180 I really loved it. What I liked about the conversation, 0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:42.400 from what I can remember, is she was just kind 0:51:42.420 --> 0:51:45.219 of giving him the game a little bit about what 0:51:45.260 --> 0:51:49.839 it is and raising him in this world to just 0:51:49.860 --> 0:51:53.090 letting him know how things are in this world for 0:51:53.550 --> 0:51:57.610 Black kids growing up, but to not have fear in 0:51:57.650 --> 0:52:01.390 this world as a Black kid growing up and you know, 0:52:01.430 --> 0:52:05.690 understanding and knowing and taking your place in this country 0:52:05.730 --> 0:52:10.400 and not kowtowing down to the system in place, which 0:52:10.440 --> 0:52:13.780 is a very difficult thing to do as a parent, 0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:15.760 especially me raising two black boys. 0:52:16.260 --> 0:52:18.620 It's like, I want you aware. 0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:20.910 Of these things, but not to the point where you're 0:52:20.950 --> 0:52:25.300 afraid to move around when you see like a cop or, 0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:28.799 something happened and you feel like, Oh Lord, now these 0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:30.739 white folks going to get me. It's like, nah, you 0:52:30.780 --> 0:52:32.560 know your place in this world and you have rights 0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:35.580 within this world, uh, because you're entitled to them, but 0:52:35.820 --> 0:52:40.790 also be aware that not every situation, you know, uh, 0:52:41.550 --> 0:52:46.049 not everyone, uh, complies with that. So, but, but not 0:52:46.090 --> 0:52:48.029 to walk out the house every day of fear of 0:52:48.090 --> 0:52:50.950 something that's happened. Cause that's not a way to live. Um, 0:52:51.050 --> 0:52:52.219 it's the way I grew up, but I did not 0:52:52.260 --> 0:52:55.000 want my kids to have that fear as well. So, um, 0:52:55.670 --> 0:52:59.180 So I really love that conversation that she was giving him. 0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:00.859 I thought that was really, really dope. 0:53:02.140 --> 0:53:02.540 Agreed. 0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:11.390 I agree with everything y'all just said. And so we 0:53:11.430 --> 0:53:17.430 go back to the semi-present where John is discharged. And 0:53:17.469 --> 0:53:20.690 so now he feels like he can't do this. That 0:53:20.730 --> 0:53:24.170 means everything's over since then. He's not a part of 0:53:24.190 --> 0:53:28.149 the military, and so he begins to go to art school. 0:53:29.510 --> 0:53:30.600 So in art school. 0:53:31.550 --> 0:53:37.239 He learns more about architecture and things like that. What 0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:39.960 did y'all think about him going to art school and 0:53:39.980 --> 0:53:42.239 getting ready to do a course and coming to the 0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:45.480 realization that he was actually talking to a guardian? What 0:53:45.500 --> 0:53:46.480 did y'all think of this scene? 0:53:47.260 --> 0:53:51.460 What kind of shift there? Can I ask a question 0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:56.200 real quick? When he was shooting at the dude he 0:53:56.239 --> 0:53:58.020 had been sitting out there for a minute, how did 0:53:58.219 --> 0:54:01.779 the Green Lantern, did he know he was trying to 0:54:01.820 --> 0:54:05.219 kill him? Is there anything behind it? 0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:08.100 Yeah, so the guy that he was reporting to, when 0:54:08.260 --> 0:54:19.350 they met to discuss the mission, He said that how 0:54:19.390 --> 0:54:21.310 Jordan was doing what how Jordan does. He was at 0:54:21.350 --> 0:54:24.850 a bar drinking and drunk and there was a conversation 0:54:24.870 --> 0:54:25.510 that happened. 0:54:26.310 --> 0:54:28.930 And when he heard about it, he went, yeah, yeah. 0:54:28.969 --> 0:54:30.969 And he wasn't supposed to do that, but he did 0:54:31.030 --> 0:54:31.490 it anyway. 0:54:33.170 --> 0:54:37.050 So, yeah, but, but this, this scene was dope because when, 0:54:37.110 --> 0:54:41.840 when it's like the way he was talking sounded weird, 0:54:42.660 --> 0:54:47.890 but I didn't really place it until. right around the 0:54:47.930 --> 0:54:50.720 time he finished drawing. And I was like, man, I'm 0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:53.899 wondering if that's a garnish. So when he gave the ring, 0:54:53.940 --> 0:54:56.500 I was like, damn. And then I was like, of 0:54:56.600 --> 0:55:00.819 course it would make sense that he would have to 0:55:00.860 --> 0:55:04.480 have a good understanding of how things are designed and 0:55:04.620 --> 0:55:08.930 work in order to construct these things. Now, is that 0:55:08.969 --> 0:55:09.710 necessarily true? 0:55:09.770 --> 0:55:10.260 I doubt it. 0:55:10.890 --> 0:55:13.489 I think it's really an imagination. But I think what 0:55:13.530 --> 0:55:17.779 it shows is that he... has a little bit of 0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:22.080 extra in him that others can't because of his ability, 0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:27.239 his natural ability to draw and remember those details, which 0:55:27.300 --> 0:55:30.220 may give him another edge over other Guardians. 0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:33.939 But no, that was dope seeing him do that. 0:55:34.420 --> 0:55:38.580 And again, they do just enough superhero stuff to remind 0:55:38.640 --> 0:55:41.820 us that this is a superhero show. But it's definitely 0:55:41.890 --> 0:55:45.390 not overboard with a lot of superhero shit. 0:55:45.730 --> 0:55:47.450 At least in the first three episodes. 0:55:48.370 --> 0:55:51.650 And I think that's adding to it. Because for me, 0:55:51.770 --> 0:55:55.940 for one, watching it, I feel like I'm always on 0:55:55.960 --> 0:55:58.480 the edge of like, okay, when the superhero stuff started. 0:55:59.180 --> 0:56:02.259 But I'm not missing it because it's not there. They're 0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:04.799 doing enough filling in the show with the rest of 0:56:04.820 --> 0:56:08.310 the backstory, filling in the show with the dynamic between 0:56:08.410 --> 0:56:11.569 Hal and what's his name? 0:56:12.690 --> 0:56:13.430 John Stewart. Hal. 0:56:13.810 --> 0:56:16.120 John. Hal and John, they're doing enough filling in the 0:56:16.140 --> 0:56:19.569 story with that. They're doing enough backstory with the family. 0:56:19.830 --> 0:56:23.330 All of the stuff is working. So when the superhero 0:56:23.370 --> 0:56:26.229 stuff does happen, Ken, to your point, yeah, it's great. 0:56:26.550 --> 0:56:28.670 It's like, oh yeah, this is a superhero show. But 0:56:28.710 --> 0:56:30.740 I'm not waiting on it and it's not pressing me 0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:32.700 at all. So I think they had a really good 0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:37.560 dynamic of balancing those two. To the drawing scene that 0:56:37.580 --> 0:56:40.220 you asked about, Jalen, I like this a lot. Again, 0:56:41.160 --> 0:56:44.680 adds to Him just being the dude for the job, 0:56:45.570 --> 0:56:48.210 having an art background, being able to draw this, doing 0:56:48.250 --> 0:56:52.810 a thing, getting the ring. It's just good. They're doing 0:56:52.830 --> 0:56:53.870 this show very well. 0:56:56.190 --> 0:56:56.530 I agree. 0:56:56.830 --> 0:56:59.489 It did come to me by surprise that it was 0:56:59.510 --> 0:57:03.620 a guardian a little bit. But to use this as 0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:09.560 another way to build upon Jon Stewart was great. He 0:57:09.600 --> 0:57:12.950 went to art school because this part didn't work out, 0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:14.779 and how his mom came in and had the conversation 0:57:14.820 --> 0:57:17.600 with him, what is a, I forgot the saying that 0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:20.420 she said, but it was dope, I can't remember what 0:57:20.460 --> 0:57:26.290 it was, damn, but it was something about courage, and 0:57:26.430 --> 0:57:29.160 for her to come in there and talk to him, 0:57:29.510 --> 0:57:33.090 she was just a powerful force, bro, like, just, just 0:57:33.680 --> 0:57:37.300 every time, yeah, every piece of it, like, it just 0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:41.410 felt like this motivation to continue to keep going because 0:57:41.490 --> 0:57:46.010 she was there for him. Um, that's why I'm so torn. 0:57:46.030 --> 0:57:47.750 Cause when you sit and really think about it, it's like, 0:57:48.370 --> 0:57:51.120 she really put him in a position to succeed for 0:57:51.160 --> 0:57:54.200 what he became, what he's becoming. But at the same time, 0:57:54.240 --> 0:57:55.920 it's like, damn, how much trauma did you put on 0:57:55.940 --> 0:57:57.840 this nigga at the same time in order for him 0:57:57.880 --> 0:58:02.060 to get there? Um, yeah, it was like a helicopter day. 0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:06.450 It's like, impressing his son on football, like to do 0:58:06.590 --> 0:58:09.450 all the drills and the scrimmages and the shit like that. 0:58:09.470 --> 0:58:12.490 And they end up being good. But to your point, 0:58:12.510 --> 0:58:14.930 it's like, man, they missed their whole childhood though. He 0:58:14.970 --> 0:58:20.410 was doing the heels and fucking, uh, suicides. One of 0:58:20.430 --> 0:58:22.450 him is a 10 year old. So yeah. 0:58:22.910 --> 0:58:24.720 Do you get Michael Jackson without the ass beats? 0:58:25.340 --> 0:58:27.800 Yeah. Good point. 0:58:27.820 --> 0:58:33.580 So, but, I mean, and so from here, the Guardian 0:58:34.140 --> 0:58:38.060 and John, they continue the conversation, and it's revealed that 0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:43.000 the Guardians, basically, they don't fuck with Hal. 0:58:43.020 --> 0:58:44.180 They don't trust this nigga. 0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:48.580 And they kind of want him to take his place. 0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:52.280 What did y'all think of this conversation of why we 0:58:52.320 --> 0:58:55.080 get these little nuggets, and now they want John to 0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:55.820 take Hal's place? 0:58:57.300 --> 0:59:00.360 It makes sense. It makes sense of how... How I'll 0:59:00.380 --> 0:59:03.439 be acting, it makes sense that they interviewing in person now. 0:59:03.460 --> 0:59:06.709 It just makes sense that they're like, nah, the buddy 0:59:06.790 --> 0:59:08.910 right here, he fucked up. And we make sure we 0:59:08.930 --> 0:59:13.630 never give up. another one of him ever again. So, yeah, 0:59:13.850 --> 0:59:16.890 I don't care if he's scared or not. Like, being 0:59:16.910 --> 0:59:18.950 scared ain't even his problem. It don't even matter if 0:59:18.970 --> 0:59:20.260 he's scared. Like, we just want him out. 0:59:20.300 --> 0:59:21.820 That's the problem. He has no fear. 0:59:21.860 --> 0:59:22.620 He ain't scared. 0:59:22.660 --> 0:59:23.160 Exactly. 0:59:23.180 --> 0:59:26.200 That's his problem. We was asking the wrong damn question. Like, 0:59:26.300 --> 0:59:26.860 are you afraid? 0:59:26.880 --> 0:59:27.460 He was like, nah. 0:59:27.500 --> 0:59:29.340 I was like, okay. I'm like, no. That ain't the 0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:29.960 right question for him. 0:59:32.900 --> 0:59:36.950 How's disobedience is a problem for them. 0:59:37.990 --> 0:59:40.350 He was supposed to go and enter because they, the 0:59:40.390 --> 0:59:43.330 guardian said that he, he's not supposed to interfere in 0:59:43.570 --> 0:59:50.030 any thing that's happening on earth. And they, as you said, they, 0:59:50.290 --> 0:59:53.290 they not messing with him and they cannot trust him 0:59:53.930 --> 0:59:57.960 because he does whatever he wants to do, do whenever 0:59:58.000 --> 1:00:01.040 he wants to do it. And, um, And that within 1:00:01.100 --> 1:00:06.440 itself is a sense of privilege, right? There hasn't been 1:00:06.740 --> 1:00:14.560 any repercussions for being disobedient with Hal. And I think 1:00:14.680 --> 1:00:19.480 they may be concerned that since he still has an 1:00:19.540 --> 1:00:24.150 attachment to Sinestro, they may be concerned that he could 1:00:24.210 --> 1:00:27.250 eventually flip and turn if he doesn't like the way 1:00:27.310 --> 1:00:29.910 things are going or if he doesn't agree with the 1:00:29.950 --> 1:00:32.810 mission And he believes it should be the other way 1:00:32.830 --> 1:00:35.410 and not not the way that they want it. So 1:00:35.650 --> 1:00:40.130 when it comes to being in an organization like that, 1:00:40.730 --> 1:00:45.910 where they're basically guardians, cops, police, military or whatever, chain 1:00:45.950 --> 1:00:47.230 of command and being able. 1:00:47.090 --> 1:00:48.970 To follow orders is very important. 1:00:49.160 --> 1:00:53.060 And throughout this episode, throughout the first couple of episodes 1:00:53.140 --> 1:00:55.740 of this of this season, even in this one, he 1:00:55.760 --> 1:00:58.740 was like, is that my order? And she was like, yes, 1:00:58.780 --> 1:01:00.400 that's your order. He was like, well, how I feel 1:01:00.440 --> 1:01:03.380 about it don't even matter because you gave me an 1:01:03.500 --> 1:01:07.170 order and I'm going to follow it. That's what they want. 1:01:07.390 --> 1:01:10.950 And they can't have anybody that's going to do whatever 1:01:10.970 --> 1:01:12.070 they want, whenever they want it. 1:01:14.190 --> 1:01:15.650 Yeah. Yeah. 1:01:15.710 --> 1:01:18.230 I think, I think that's the premise of why he's 1:01:18.250 --> 1:01:21.950 going to, he's becoming a Greenlander. Um, And I was like, 1:01:21.970 --> 1:01:23.970 how I came in that house was disrespectful as fuck. 1:01:24.410 --> 1:01:27.220 I'm like, damn, fuck this nigga. Nigga was calling him Junior. 1:01:27.760 --> 1:01:28.560 All that type of shit. 1:01:28.600 --> 1:01:28.780 Like. 1:01:29.640 --> 1:01:30.760 Like, he was just... He tried to. 1:01:30.920 --> 1:01:31.500 Like, I hate. 1:01:31.760 --> 1:01:34.220 You know what? You know what it really was? I 1:01:34.260 --> 1:01:37.720 hate the friendly, disrespectful white man. That shit there. 1:01:37.580 --> 1:01:38.660 Pissed me off, bro. 1:01:38.920 --> 1:01:40.900 Like, you being... You got a smile on your face 1:01:40.940 --> 1:01:43.140 and you smug. Yeah, like, and you know you being 1:01:43.160 --> 1:01:45.540 disrespectful as fuck. You trying to little man me? Nigga, 1:01:45.600 --> 1:01:46.380 fuck you, nigga. 1:01:46.400 --> 1:01:48.930 Like, I don't like that shit. And so, that's what 1:01:48.950 --> 1:01:51.030 really was pissing me off. We kept calling him Junior. 1:01:51.710 --> 1:01:52.550 You call him Junior, right? 1:01:52.830 --> 1:01:53.630 He's like, no. 1:01:53.690 --> 1:01:55.150 He's like, yeah, but I'm calling him Junior. 1:01:55.170 --> 1:01:56.790 Like, no, fuck you, nigga. 1:01:56.810 --> 1:01:57.750 My name is John. 1:01:57.850 --> 1:01:58.170 Like, so. 1:01:59.320 --> 1:02:04.220 Yeah, overall, man, and then the episode ends, obviously, with 1:02:05.100 --> 1:02:09.180 Hal flying off and John talks to the bird, basically saying, 1:02:09.200 --> 1:02:10.100 I think he likes me. 1:02:10.120 --> 1:02:11.300 You know what I'm saying? 1:02:11.390 --> 1:02:14.370 A nice little nod to the bird, obviously, theme that 1:02:14.510 --> 1:02:17.830 has been going on since the last episode. But, yeah, man, 1:02:17.850 --> 1:02:21.170 that's pretty much the gist of it. I apologize to 1:02:21.190 --> 1:02:23.189 the listeners if there was something in particular y'all wanted 1:02:23.210 --> 1:02:25.110 me to get to that I forgot because, you know, 1:02:25.270 --> 1:02:27.840 I had notes. I had to go to the top 1:02:27.880 --> 1:02:30.340 of the dome because somebody ain't finished the notes. 1:02:31.100 --> 1:02:32.080 But, uh, yeah. 1:02:32.140 --> 1:02:33.760 Is there anything else y'all like to add before we 1:02:33.800 --> 1:02:34.280 close out? 1:02:36.210 --> 1:02:40.030 Nah, that's it. I've been enjoying this, man. I'm enjoying it. 1:02:40.050 --> 1:02:43.250 Happy we got you on board, Spike. Yeah, I'm fucking 1:02:43.270 --> 1:02:46.590 with it. It's been a rough month. It's been a 1:02:46.610 --> 1:02:47.170 rough month. 1:02:50.910 --> 1:02:52.140 I came up with an idea, Spike. 1:02:52.200 --> 1:02:53.620 I hope you like it. We're going to see what 1:02:53.660 --> 1:02:59.740 everybody thinks. But, um, It's so, of course, I have 1:02:59.800 --> 1:03:04.510 very similar feelings watching this about how black it was 1:03:04.610 --> 1:03:09.830 without feeling forced. You know, like it's one of the blacks. Like, 1:03:09.890 --> 1:03:11.580 if you know, you know, you kind of get it. 1:03:13.030 --> 1:03:16.970 Seeing the backlash and shout out to D.C. for even 1:03:16.990 --> 1:03:19.930 doing that. When they started to have those conversations that 1:03:20.030 --> 1:03:23.270 happens in the household away from other years, I was like, oh, 1:03:23.430 --> 1:03:25.110 I didn't I did not think they were going to 1:03:25.160 --> 1:03:30.440 go there. And they did. So salute to them for 1:03:30.500 --> 1:03:33.960 being having an episode like this in a climate that 1:03:34.020 --> 1:03:34.700 we are in. 1:03:35.940 --> 1:03:38.770 Which leads me to them paying for it. 1:03:39.320 --> 1:03:44.930 And it's unfortunate because it doesn't matter what it is. 1:03:45.490 --> 1:03:50.390 It's just anything that's catered or even close to something 1:03:50.410 --> 1:03:53.790 that black people can like. They just can't stand it 1:03:53.830 --> 1:03:56.630 because they feel like something is taken away. And when 1:03:56.650 --> 1:03:59.890 you look at this episode, you can really see, and 1:03:59.970 --> 1:04:03.600 it's unfortunate they're not really kind of observing and watching 1:04:03.680 --> 1:04:07.360 it from just the lens that it's in, of what 1:04:07.420 --> 1:04:10.760 it's like to get a peek inside of a Black family. 1:04:10.980 --> 1:04:13.380 And this was provided to them, salute to that writer, 1:04:14.320 --> 1:04:16.860 without being very over the top. But you can see 1:04:16.900 --> 1:04:21.530 these small little things that happen to Black people by 1:04:21.570 --> 1:04:26.810 a white person intentionally or unintentionally. And Hal Jordan is 1:04:26.830 --> 1:04:29.390 the perfect example for that. The Guardian is the perfect 1:04:29.430 --> 1:04:32.710 example for that. When he comes in the house, he 1:04:32.890 --> 1:04:36.970 once again took away a moment from this family, whether 1:04:37.010 --> 1:04:39.140 he intended to do it or not, because he said, 1:04:39.280 --> 1:04:40.860 I really wanted to be the one to tell him. 1:04:41.280 --> 1:04:42.920 But as soon as he get there, who's in the 1:04:42.960 --> 1:04:44.500 house is Hal. 1:04:45.500 --> 1:04:47.680 And he didn't get a chance to drop that news 1:04:48.040 --> 1:04:53.910 that they spent his whole life preparing and building him 1:04:53.930 --> 1:04:59.870 to do. And in comes a white man telling him 1:04:59.950 --> 1:05:03.370 that they actually did the job really, really well to 1:05:03.390 --> 1:05:06.530 the point he got the job. That's how they found out, 1:05:07.350 --> 1:05:10.580 you know, and it's like, it's like Saban may be 1:05:10.620 --> 1:05:12.540 calling and say, Hey, here's your son made the team 1:05:12.580 --> 1:05:14.580 before your son get a chance to call you. Like 1:05:14.620 --> 1:05:16.480 that's the moment that they wanted to share. And I 1:05:16.520 --> 1:05:19.820 think that it's unfortunate that they can't just look at 1:05:19.860 --> 1:05:22.550 it from that lens because I think this wasn't a 1:05:22.970 --> 1:05:28.250 show that, you know, of pity as black people, but 1:05:28.450 --> 1:05:31.330 an acknowledgement of what it's like to be black. There's 1:05:31.390 --> 1:05:34.610 not a lot of whining or complaining. It's just situational awareness. 1:05:35.230 --> 1:05:37.450 That is, that's all it is. And it's like, you know, 1:05:37.490 --> 1:05:39.800 they tell us these things about, oh, you know, it's 1:05:39.820 --> 1:05:43.580 all about merit. But then you have Hal, who was 1:05:43.720 --> 1:05:45.880 chosen because he has no fear, but he can get 1:05:45.940 --> 1:05:48.940 away with everything, even though he's great at what he does, 1:05:49.000 --> 1:05:51.260 but he can also get away with things, but he's 1:05:51.300 --> 1:05:54.620 also a fuck-up. So he can do both. So he's 1:05:54.660 --> 1:05:56.180 really good at his job, but he's a fuck-up at 1:05:56.220 --> 1:05:59.320 his job, too. Whereas when you look at Jon Stewart, 1:05:59.840 --> 1:06:04.320 Jon Stewart has to be completely buttoned up, straight, and 1:06:04.540 --> 1:06:06.760 narrow in order to get the job. 1:06:07.180 --> 1:06:07.880 He has to be perfect. 1:06:07.900 --> 1:06:11.420 And it's just like, there's this, and then the Hustable line, 1:06:11.800 --> 1:06:15.740 it's just like, what the hell? But so small, so subtle, 1:06:15.780 --> 1:06:17.880 he thinks he wasn't even being offensive, but he was. 1:06:18.740 --> 1:06:21.800 Because those are the things that black people grew up with. 1:06:23.470 --> 1:06:27.479 where a lot of those lines were very intentional. So 1:06:27.540 --> 1:06:29.660 it's hard for us to let it go. So again, 1:06:29.680 --> 1:06:33.200 I think this episode was written really, really well. It 1:06:33.240 --> 1:06:34.580 wasn't very overt to me. 1:06:34.820 --> 1:06:37.940 And I think they're just in their feelings because this 1:06:38.020 --> 1:06:40.060 is what they are. And they, for. 1:06:40.000 --> 1:06:42.930 Whatever reason, came out of this show as a victim. 1:06:46.170 --> 1:06:49.490 I don't know how, but somehow they're victims, Spike. 1:06:50.970 --> 1:06:54.090 Because they feel like, I don't even want to. You 1:06:54.130 --> 1:06:58.810 did an amazing job there of summarizing that. Because I 1:06:58.990 --> 1:07:02.150 was trying to explain it and couldn't to people earlier. 1:07:02.530 --> 1:07:05.950 You just did an amazing job of saying, hey, this 1:07:06.030 --> 1:07:08.140 is the reason why I register for black people and 1:07:08.180 --> 1:07:11.680 why I wasn't overly black. It was just, if you 1:07:11.740 --> 1:07:14.660 offended by this, then you might ask, like you said, Charlie, 1:07:14.680 --> 1:07:16.780 you might need to have a conversation with yourself about 1:07:16.800 --> 1:07:20.220 the isms. If you stepped out and you was like, oh, well, 1:07:20.760 --> 1:07:22.660 Why are they doing this? Why are they this and that? 1:07:23.220 --> 1:07:26.280 And I can say that as a person who has 1:07:26.360 --> 1:07:29.460 changed now, when I used to look at stuff and 1:07:29.480 --> 1:07:32.500 be like, man, why are they putting all this extra 1:07:32.600 --> 1:07:34.180 stuff in here? Not to you. 1:07:34.200 --> 1:07:35.800 But I was going to say, is any marginalized group 1:07:35.840 --> 1:07:37.470 of people like, why are they putting this in here? 1:07:37.490 --> 1:07:38.550 Why are they putting this in here? 1:07:39.090 --> 1:07:40.870 It's like, bro, it's a part of the story. 1:07:41.470 --> 1:07:44.410 Exactly. And I've gotten to the point, Jay, now, like 1:07:44.730 --> 1:07:48.110 doing more reviews with Friends Per Second, just hearing more 1:07:48.150 --> 1:07:52.430 opinions and I don't question it now. And when people do, 1:07:53.090 --> 1:07:55.490 it comes odd to me now. And I understand how 1:07:55.570 --> 1:07:57.450 I used to sound because I didn't get it at first. 1:07:58.090 --> 1:07:59.530 When I would be like, oh, why they put this 1:07:59.590 --> 1:08:02.230 in here? But now it's like, bro, it's in there. Okay, 1:08:02.270 --> 1:08:04.830 who gives a fuck? It's part of the story, bro. Like, 1:08:05.230 --> 1:08:10.100 usually you commenting from a place of you not even watching. 1:08:10.840 --> 1:08:14.220 You don't even know the context of this. You're just 1:08:14.340 --> 1:08:18.139 mad because it offends this group of people who you 1:08:18.180 --> 1:08:24.620 think you relate to. You have no idea what's going on. Again, 1:08:24.640 --> 1:08:26.620 I told y'all, I was having a text conversation. I 1:08:26.660 --> 1:08:29.710 was telling the person, I know what type of movies 1:08:30.490 --> 1:08:34.030 or shows that you like. If you were to check 1:08:34.070 --> 1:08:37.360 this out, I promise you would have a different opinion 1:08:37.400 --> 1:08:39.939 on this, is what I told her. But you just 1:08:40.040 --> 1:08:43.240 listening to these people over here who you think that 1:08:43.900 --> 1:08:45.460 we agree on all of these things. So I would 1:08:45.479 --> 1:08:45.820 agree with. 1:08:45.780 --> 1:08:46.200 Them on this. 1:08:46.600 --> 1:08:48.479 And now you're running with it and thinking that this 1:08:48.560 --> 1:08:51.250 is one thing, but it's not. It's just like what 1:08:51.290 --> 1:08:53.830 you were explaining to King. Like this is there's this 1:08:54.350 --> 1:08:59.610 thing with black culture that it's hard to relay how 1:08:59.650 --> 1:09:02.189 they did. it in this episode in the sense of 1:09:02.229 --> 1:09:06.200 it ain't overt, bro. Sometimes it's just these situations as 1:09:06.240 --> 1:09:08.180 to where you have to have this awareness that's like, 1:09:08.740 --> 1:09:12.020 I'm Black, bro. I have to conduct myself in this manner. 1:09:13.060 --> 1:09:14.900 I can't think about it the way that y'all are 1:09:14.920 --> 1:09:18.020 thinking about it in the mass streams of it. And 1:09:18.060 --> 1:09:19.979 they did a good job of that in this episode. 1:09:20.000 --> 1:09:21.980 And if you just tune in from the outside and 1:09:22.000 --> 1:09:25.809 you're like, oh, this is them trying to insert this 1:09:25.930 --> 1:09:28.870 into pop culture. It's not that. They did a good 1:09:28.890 --> 1:09:30.730 job of this and telling the story. 1:09:32.130 --> 1:09:34.230 And what I like is kind of what you said. 1:09:34.260 --> 1:09:38.960 Like the question is, like the people saying, why are 1:09:39.000 --> 1:09:41.700 they doing this? That is the question to ask, but 1:09:41.760 --> 1:09:44.880 not in the way that they're doing it. Ask, why 1:09:45.240 --> 1:09:48.320 are they doing this? Not, oh man, why y'all doing this? No, 1:09:48.400 --> 1:09:51.849 really ask, why are they doing this? 1:09:51.930 --> 1:09:54.150 So they can really get an understanding of what's going on. 1:09:55.030 --> 1:09:55.550 But, you know. 1:09:57.350 --> 1:09:59.780 Yeah, this was a good episode, man. They was in 1:09:59.820 --> 1:10:00.340 their bag right here. 1:10:01.560 --> 1:10:03.380 But they'll get their show back next week. 1:10:03.700 --> 1:10:06.959 Yeah, they'll get their show back. It's coming back, y'all. 1:10:07.020 --> 1:10:09.280 And that's the thing. Y'all can be happy about it. 1:10:09.280 --> 1:10:11.050 It ain't going to be every week. We don't get 1:10:11.090 --> 1:10:16.030 it all the time, bro. It's there if you're in between. Yeah, 1:10:16.050 --> 1:10:19.850 we're done with it. When we see it, we appreciate it. 1:10:19.930 --> 1:10:21.599 And we move on. Like y'all should. 1:10:27.150 --> 1:10:29.950 Well, we all still excited for the show. We're going 1:10:29.970 --> 1:10:33.670 to keep watching it. But, you know, hey, man. I 1:10:34.490 --> 1:10:37.480 know my bias is not going to let them top 1:10:37.500 --> 1:10:40.469 this episode. Okay, how good the rest of these episodes is. 1:10:40.520 --> 1:10:41.740 My bias is already set. 1:10:41.820 --> 1:10:45.800 This is the best episode. This is the best episode. Thanks. 1:10:46.740 --> 1:10:51.259 Thanks. But, man, we'll be back here next week, man. Hopefully, 1:10:51.280 --> 1:10:54.280 y'all keep tapping in. Make sure to follow us at 1:10:54.340 --> 1:10:55.519 FPS Podcasts. 1:10:56.479 --> 1:10:57.540 Join the Reddit thread. 1:10:57.580 --> 1:11:01.500 Become a patron at patreon.com forward slash frames per second. 1:11:01.800 --> 1:11:03.400 But until next time, peace. 1:11:04.970 --> 1:11:07.890 Peace and salute to them for ending the episode with OutKast. 1:11:08.990 --> 1:11:09.849 For real. 1:11:09.870 --> 1:11:11.330 They taught all that shit together. 1:11:11.410 --> 1:11:12.929 With gasoline dreams, too. 1:11:14.490 --> 1:11:15.479 Yeah. 1:11:15.560 --> 1:11:16.660 I didn't know. 1:11:16.840 --> 1:11:17.060 B-side. 1:11:17.180 --> 1:11:17.800 B-side.