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Speaker 1: Why from ball Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America, it's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: So when they tell you there's no fraud, why do

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Speaker 2: you always talk about fraud?

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Speaker 3: Tony?

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Speaker 2: My gosh, You're always saying that there's fraud going on

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Speaker 2: in the vote, and there's no fraud. There's no any

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Speaker 2: proof of fraud, never any proof of fraud. We're going

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Speaker 2: to point into New Jersey and tell all of those

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Speaker 2: registering to vote, if you are not ensuring that only

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Speaker 3: If you do not have voter ID, if you allow.

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Speaker 2: This willy nilly malon balloting, what you will get is

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Speaker 2: the opportunity for fraud. And when opportunity exists, people take

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Speaker 2: the opportunity. Why would we assume that somehow human nature

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Speaker 2: doesn't exist. It is an embarrassing thing to witness, to watch,

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Speaker 2: to observe these people lie as they do, as if

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Speaker 2: somehow it never happens. But it did happen.

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Speaker 3: The number of.

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Speaker 2: People who registered to vote in New Jersey as non citizens,

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Speaker 2: well it's not so much the number, it's the timeframe

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Speaker 2: that's going to get you.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today an absolute pleasure, guys, Glad you are

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Speaker 2: all here. Find everything I do over at Tony kats

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Speaker 2: dot com and check out the livestream on YouTube and

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Speaker 2: rumble Tony Katz on the Twitter x they call it

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Speaker 2: there Tony Katz and Facebook, Tony Katz Radio. Marco Rubio,

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Speaker 2: I never know if it's at the Is it a SEAWAN?

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Speaker 2: Is that what we call it? The Association of Southeast

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Speaker 2: Asian Nations. It's an event that happens every year, every

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Speaker 2: economic opportunities. Right, we've got the G seven summit, and

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Speaker 2: then you've got the bricks nations. It's Brazil, Russia, India,

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Speaker 2: China and what is the s in bricks?

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Speaker 3: Isn't wait?

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Speaker 2: Missing a missing one? South Africa joined in twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: There it is, and then they added other nations like

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Speaker 3: You know, just you know, some guys, they know nothing

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Secretary of Saint Marco Rubio is there and he

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Speaker 2: was answering some questions I haven't had a chance to

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Speaker 3: So this is all just happening, so I have not

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Speaker 3: Let's listen for a moment.

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Speaker 4: How under the control of other countries will continue to

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Speaker 4: So the difficult job of geopolitics and foreign policy is

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Speaker 5: And I think we have an obligation to do that.

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Speaker 2: The problem with that conversation, mister Secretary, and it's not

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Speaker 3: That it also has to include the punishment for China.

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Speaker 2: what about when China is stealing voter data and is

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Speaker 2: There has to be a response to what it is

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Speaker 2: I think that response should be not allowing Chinese nationals

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Speaker 3: And revealed that he's going to be meeting with you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So I just wanted to hear what Marco Rubio had

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Speaker 2: to say, as he's there for this summit. Let's get

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Speaker 2: into New Jersey. Let's get into the voter fraud. Let

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Speaker 3: Voter fraud, I'll bring the receipts. What the bloody heck

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Speaker 2: If not the opportunity for fraud, if not outright fraud.

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Speaker 2: got to make that point clear. He allowed October seventh

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Speaker 3: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony

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Speaker 2: Now they're gonna tell you not to pay attention to

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna follow it up by saying, oh, is.

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Speaker 3: That not New Jersey? I thought it wasn't bad New Jersey. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: here's Jersey. How's your moata? That's also not bad, dude.

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Speaker 2: I can make that work. Tony Katz, that's my name.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 2: Glad you guys are hear live streaming on YouTube and

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Speaker 2: and subscribe and do all of the things. What happened

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Speaker 2: in New Jersey, Well, what happened in.

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Speaker 3: New Jersey is that there was a DMV error. You

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Speaker 2: And what happened is is that people who were getting

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Speaker 3: Yet they were still registered to vote.

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Speaker 2: Not citizens, they were registered to vote, they claim as

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Speaker 2: the governor does Mickey Cheryl sixty six hundred people who

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Speaker 2: if you were governor? The story is not, hey, this

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Speaker 2: You mean just gearing up for registering people for a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got that right.

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Speaker 2: it was twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four. So

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Speaker 2: you got people in so they could be registered to

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Speaker 2: vote in a presidential election. Sixty six hundred of them,

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Speaker 2: four hundred of them did vote.

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Speaker 3: And you say to me, see, see it's.

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Speaker 2: Sixty six hundred, but only four hundred voted. You see,

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Speaker 2: nobody wants to do that. Nobody wants to break the law.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa kitten booboo, sweetness, love muffin.

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Speaker 3: Our conversation has from the beginning discussed those people interested

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Speaker 2: Single conversation piece, in every conversation piece, it has always

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Speaker 3: It's that you were going to get the opportunity for fraud.

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Speaker 2: Every time this comes up, the Left tells us there

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Speaker 3: There's no voter fraud.

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Speaker 2: You made that up. You made every part of that up,

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Speaker 3: This happened in New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: That thing they say that never happens just keeps on happening,

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Speaker 3: This is Abby Phillip.

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Speaker 2: Abby Phillip who hosts show on CNN that had all

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Speaker 2: the promise that show is unwatchable. Keith Boinkin and Anna

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Speaker 2: No thanks, and Abby Phillip keeps trying to position herself

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Speaker 6: He's been in office for a full year now, they

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Speaker 6: You guys are in search of something that there's been

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Speaker 2: Now, no evidence exists. You're just in search of it.

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Speaker 2: You're looking for a problem.

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Speaker 6: Is double checking its voto rolls tonight after a software

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Speaker 6: Is the suggestion that this is fraud suggests that these

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Speaker 3: They are confused.

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Speaker 6: For some people who are ineligible to vote are not

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I am unaware that my back light is out

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Speaker 2: And then Kim Cheatle said, well the slope, the slope

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Speaker 2: They made sure they hired enough lesbians. There's nothing wrong

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Speaker 2: People looked at Butler, Pennsylvania and they're like, this is

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Speaker 2: is progressivism in every single way. The objective is to

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Speaker 2: It can happen any port in a storm. And Abby

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Speaker 2: be different things. By the way, that's not the subject.

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Speaker 2: That is to avoid the subject. That is Abby Philip

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Speaker 2: engaging in sophistry. The subject is that New Jersey allowed

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Speaker 2: it and blamed it on a glitch. You blamed it

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Speaker 3: You actually have to go register to vote.

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Speaker 2: No more at the DMV. Done over finished. I don't

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Speaker 2: My mother walks with a walker. Sorry, Diane. You better

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Speaker 2: And then afterwards, we're gonna go out for Chinese food

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Speaker 2: because I want dumplings and you're paying. All right, I'll pay,

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Speaker 2: but we're still going out for dumplings. Yes, that's the

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Speaker 3: It's not their fault. No, it's your fault, fraudster, you're

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Speaker 3: the fraudsters. You the progressive, You're the fraudster. It isn't

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Speaker 3: and we blame you, and now.

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Speaker 2: We need to take away your power because you can't

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Speaker 2: be trusted. You can't actually run a country of people.

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Speaker 3: Like you in charge. Look at how foolish you are.

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Speaker 3: Look at it when Caplin and f no, no, nough, You're out.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: Some people simply won't go quietly into that good night

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Speaker 2: or gentle into that good night.

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Speaker 3: If I can be so.

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Speaker 2: Bold, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, find everything I do

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Speaker 2: at Tony kats dot com.

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Speaker 3: One of those people is Jasmine Crockett. Jasmine Cricht.

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Speaker 2: Now, usually it's about this time that I share some

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Speaker 2: masterpiece theater. I used to do Jasmine Crockett masterpiece theater,

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Speaker 2: and I'd play the music. I'm just skipping the music

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Speaker 2: be former congresswoman is really a studying indictment. It's an

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Speaker 2: Crockett is an ignorant woman. Now she can have this degree,

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Speaker 2: But if these are the kind of comments you're gonna

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Speaker 2: to say to me, well, you can't say that because

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Speaker 3: See? If I didn't notice, I would be an ignorant man,

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Speaker 3: and I just don't want to live my life that way.

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Speaker 2: So I notice things. And what I noticed is that

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Speaker 3: That's what I noticed. You are what you are, what

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: You got hosed by white guy James taal Rico and

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Speaker 3: Yes, you did.

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Speaker 2: Those guys absolutely, my view, conspired to keep you off

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Speaker 2: That happens, But even in your presentation of that, you

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Speaker 2: Let me start where I start. This is representative Crockett.

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Speaker 2: She is speaking at a hearing, this House oversight, and

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Speaker 3: In the World's Cup.

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Speaker 3: Work from the Smithsonian.

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Speaker 2: There are people who are upset on the left because

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Speaker 3: I've seen it with my own eyes.

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Speaker 2: If you visited DC, you may have very well seen

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Speaker 2: that it's being corrected. America is not a racist nor

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Speaker 2: the more perfect union. That should be our story. But

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Speaker 3: That's how they profit.

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Speaker 2: And that's why, and I'll say it again, we have

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Speaker 2: Trump say this before.

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Speaker 3: Too big to rig.

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Speaker 2: You got to overwhelm so many people have to come

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Speaker 3: You can't make it easy on them. Tony. Are you're

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Speaker 3: saying elections are rigged?

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Speaker 2: I am saying that large scale voter turnout on the

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Speaker 2: is better for America. That's what I said. But this

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Speaker 3: This is a house oversight hearing regarding the Smithsonian and

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Speaker 3: she wants to bring up the World's Cup Argentina versus

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Speaker 3: much better.

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Speaker 7: The World Cup that captured the imaginations of the entire

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Speaker 7: that was planned for all these teams, and ultimately, if

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Speaker 7: why was that? Just give me an explanation if you

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Speaker 7: could gets if you'll just let them finish the answer,

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Speaker 7: Spain are.

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Speaker 3: The best team. Maybe that's why they were rooting for them.

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Speaker 7: There's also a racist history.

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Speaker 5: That you reckonized.

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Speaker 2: What they rooted against Argentina or was it for Argentina

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Speaker 2: because they're racist or they're not racist?

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Speaker 3: What is she doing now?

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to spend any time going through the

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Speaker 2: history of Argentina nor Spain.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go.

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Speaker 2: Back to Representative Crockett and ask what the hell are

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Speaker 2: Spanish fans are all racist.

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Speaker 3: People who wanted Messi to get another World.

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Speaker 2: Cup are racist people who want to see Spain and

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Speaker 2: this young kid and the future of soccer there.

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Speaker 3: Also, can we go back to you think the World's.

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Speaker 2: Cup was about watching people of color. The World Cup

447
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 2: was about kick ass soccer. It was outstanding. The final

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00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: Spain in Argentina loses to Spain, won nothing in extra time.

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Speaker 2: It was actually a rather uneventful game. Argentina did not

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Speaker 2: play well and I can't understand it. No shots on goal,

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Speaker 2: no shots on target. Nothing, very very, very weird. The

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Speaker 2: World Cup was exceptional. I don't care if you like

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Speaker 2: soccer or not. It means nothing.

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Speaker 3: The World Cup in the United States, with a little

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Speaker 3: assist from Mexico.

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Speaker 2: And Canada, it was exceptional. It was remarkably done.

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Speaker 3: Fox knocked it out of the park in its coverage. Now,

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Speaker 3: I did not mind slots on in the booth. I

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Speaker 3: have at.

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Speaker 2: A little issue understanding on Rie in the booth. I

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Speaker 2: like Alexi Lallas to seem a little more animated. Carly

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Speaker 2: Lloyd was fantastic. They were great.

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Speaker 3: They weren't good, they were great, and it was bars

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Speaker 3: were full. The money flowing in was amazing.

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Speaker 2: And of course all the people recognizing that America is awesome.

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Speaker 3: Everything they were told about America being a lie.

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Speaker 2: We were lied to about this, lied to you about that.

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Speaker 2: Look at the food here, the people there, look at

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Speaker 2: the beauty here, This place is amazing, incredible. I've never

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Speaker 2: seen anything like it. Yeah, come back soon, now you hear. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: It was a knockout for America, knockout for the United States.

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Speaker 2: Really stupendously well done. Oh and the Iranian team was

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Speaker 2: upset that they didn't get to stay in the US.

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Speaker 2: They had to fly back to Mexico for every game.

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Speaker 2: See everything worked out, terrific people of color. I watched

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Speaker 2: Congo because they were playing amazing soccer and you were

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Speaker 2: rooting for them.

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Speaker 3: Never once did anybody think, my gosh, I did not know.

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Speaker 2: Black people could play soccer so well, Jasmine Crockett, what

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Speaker 2: the hell's wrong with you?

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Speaker 3: The Ivory Coast, they were crushing. It was amazing to

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Speaker 3: see them to get into the round of thirty two.

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Speaker 3: It was cool. There were some underdog stuff. It was awesome.

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Speaker 2: In the United States, which killing me how they went

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Speaker 2: out to Belgium, but they would win. And now you've

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Speaker 2: got eighty thousand people singing take me Home, Country Road,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, spectacular, And no one said.

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Speaker 3: Look at all these people of color.

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Speaker 2: No one, you weirdo, you weirdo, race obsessed freak, which

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Speaker 2: brings us to a part two on Jasmine Crockett where

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Speaker 2: she's at some an event.

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Speaker 3: I think it's called the World Black Forum. I don't

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Speaker 3: know where. I guess you could do anything you want.

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Speaker 3: Right there gonna be a World Black Forum. There's a

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Speaker 3: Republican Jewish Collalition, there's a Christian That part doesn't bother

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Speaker 3: me at all.

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Speaker 2: But when she starts talking about the race for Senate

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Speaker 2: where she lost the primary to James Tyllrek on Texas

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Speaker 2: and bigotry and all the rest, well, that's going to

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Speaker 2: require our attention.

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Speaker 3: So for me, I am going to be working everywhere.

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Speaker 7: The best thing that I can do for James Talerico

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Speaker 7: isn't me staying it on a stage with him. It

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Speaker 7: is the fact that I endorse five candidates in the

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Speaker 7: runoff who all happens to be black men in the

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Speaker 7: state of Texas, and every single one of them won

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Speaker 7: and they're going on to November.

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Speaker 2: Now, when you endorsed these black men, were any of

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Speaker 2: them conservatives?

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Speaker 3: Were any of them conservatives? Would you endorse a concern

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Speaker 3: to a black man, Because.

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Speaker 2: You seem to be telling everybody at this World Black

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Speaker 2: Economic Forum that the thing that matters is, of course,

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Speaker 2: the color of their skin. Not anything about what their.

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Speaker 3: Belief system is or philosophy, politics, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: So if all that matters is the color of skin,

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Speaker 2: if you are a black Conservative, can you get the

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Speaker 2: endorsement of Jason Crockett, Yes or no? If the argument

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Speaker 2: is as long as we get black people elected, that's

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Speaker 2: all that matters. I think it's a peculiar argument because

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Speaker 2: it was my grandmother, rest her Soul, Ethel Sweet Ethel,

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Speaker 2: who told me I should vote for al Gore because

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Speaker 2: Joseph Lieberman was Jewish. And I looked at my grandmother

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Speaker 2: there on Neptune Avenue in Brooklyn, New York, and I

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Speaker 2: looked at Ethel and I said, Grandma, you.

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Speaker 3: Got any more potato salad? Because I was not going

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Speaker 3: to entertain this madness of politics with my grandmother. She's

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Speaker 3: my grandmother. And I really liked the potato salad because

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Speaker 3: it was delicious.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't vote for Joseph Lieberman just because he

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Speaker 2: was Jewish. What if a cocked to nonsense thing to say?

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Speaker 2: It's exactly what Chasmin Crockett is saying here.

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Speaker 7: Meaning that they will pull out more black people to vote.

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Speaker 7: People keep trying to say, well, Jasmine has to go

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Speaker 7: and hold his hand. No, I don't and don't worry

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Speaker 7: about my math and how it works in my mind,

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Speaker 7: because the reality is that if you can give people

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Speaker 7: more than one thing to vote for, then you have

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Speaker 7: a better chance of getting them out to the polls.

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Speaker 7: And honestly, some people just not gonna be sold on

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Speaker 7: certain people that are running in the state of Texas.

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Speaker 2: So your argument now is black people only vote for

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Speaker 2: black people because they're racist? I heard it, you heard it.

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Speaker 2: Is that what she said? And the answer is yes.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about Tallarico in bigotry and

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Speaker 2: him and Stephen Colbert absolutely working together to hose you?

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Speaker 3: I think that happened. Representative Crockett. You think that black

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Speaker 3: people only vote for black people, that's that's messed up.

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Speaker 2: If you think black people should only vote for black people,

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Speaker 2: that's KKK messed up. And we noticed because we're not

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Speaker 2: ignorant like some people who will remain chasmine Crockett. This

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Speaker 2: is Tony Katz today. A headline that bothered me greatly

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Speaker 2: until I paid attention was over at the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 2: and it was a discussion of how Saudi Arabia is

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Speaker 2: going to get a nuclear program back by the United States,

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Speaker 2: and I said, hey, that's not a great idea. This

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Speaker 2: is a conversation about real politique. Tony Kats Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 3: Glad you're here.

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Speaker 2: Check out the live stream, come join, like, subscribe, do

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Speaker 2: all the things working on blowing this up.

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Speaker 3: You are the people who can help.

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Speaker 2: Head over to YouTube and rumble Tony Katz, Facebook, Tony

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Speaker 2: Cats Radio, Twitter x Tony CAATs and.

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Speaker 3: Get in there. It is a nuclear deal with.

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Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia that's in the billions of dollars. It's a

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Speaker 2: thirty year deal, and so this is going to allow

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Speaker 2: uranium enrichment in Saudi Arabia. And you're like, why would

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Speaker 2: we allow this? Why would we put them on some

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Speaker 2: kind of path that could allow them a nuclear capability.

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Speaker 2: When you read into the article, it's that a key

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Speaker 2: provision of the accord would have US companies build the

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Speaker 2: uranium and richud facility in Saudi Arabia if a joint

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Speaker 2: US Saudi study determines such a step would be warranted,

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Speaker 2: and it will. This is about shutting out China. This

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Speaker 2: is the continued moved from the President to rethink and

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Speaker 2: recreate the Middle East as the stronghold of the United States,

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Speaker 2: not of China.

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Speaker 3: And for all those people who.

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Speaker 2: Just they don't want to get involved, and we shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be doing this, We shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Be doing that. That's fine.

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Speaker 2: But China is doing all the things, and Russia is

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Speaker 2: still trying to do all the things. You can either

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Speaker 2: thwart it or you can succumb to it.

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Speaker 3: That's reality.

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Speaker 2: I haven't forgiven the Saudis for September eleventh, but I

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Speaker 2: live in this world right now, and they're going to

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Speaker 2: get nuclear and Richmond capability somehow is it going to

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Speaker 2: be us?

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Speaker 3: Roads are gonna be from the Chinese. So we said,

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Speaker 3: let it be us.

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Speaker 2: And it allows us to have people in the area,

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Speaker 2: and it allows us to have better opportunities for lower

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Speaker 2: gas prices and oil prices, and it allows us a foothold,

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Speaker 2: a step closer to the communist Chinese.

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Speaker 3: Now it makes sense that we.

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Speaker 2: Sold them the thirty five Strike fighter and the M

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Speaker 2: one Abram tank. It all comes together. No, I don't

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Speaker 2: like it, but the world is not doing things you like.

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Speaker 2: It's doing the things it does, and what is our

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Speaker 2: plan within it? So this is actually a good move.

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Speaker 2: As much as we may be bothered by the move

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Speaker 2: and keeping China on the ounce is better for all

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Speaker 2: of us.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Why from ball Hertbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Many of you may have seen the video put out

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Speaker 2: by the Islamist Zorimumdani where he refers to Benjamin Ett

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Speaker 2: and Yahoo as a war criminal.

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Speaker 3: Benjamin et Ya, who is not a war criminal.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to like the man, but Israel was

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Speaker 2: attacked by a hamas a terrorist organization and yes, helped

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Speaker 2: by Palestinians. Nobody wants to talk about it, but reality

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Speaker 2: is reality, helped by Palestinians who were involved in the

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Speaker 2: brutality against Israeli citizens, who helped hide the hostages so

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Speaker 2: they would not be found. So they continue to be

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Speaker 2: tortured as they spent over a year, in many cases

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Speaker 2: in captivity. Momdani looking at the International Criminal Court like.

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Speaker 3: It in any way matters.

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Speaker 2: And because he is an Islamist, he is a bigot.

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Speaker 2: This is not a debatable subject. I'll say it in

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Speaker 2: front of him, I'll say it in front of his wife,

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Speaker 2: I'll say it in front of his mother.

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Speaker 3: He's an Islamist and he's a bigot.

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Speaker 2: This is not shocking to anybody who's paid any attention

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Speaker 2: to zar On Mamdani. And yes, I'm bothered that I

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Speaker 2: have to spend this much time talking about the mayor

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Speaker 2: of New York.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little more bothered that the.

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Speaker 2: People of New York are absolutely so daft and so

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Speaker 2: ignorant as to vote for a man like this. And

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Speaker 2: as for my people, my people, the liberal Jews, I

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Speaker 2: will once again remind them that they are the dumbest

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Speaker 2: people who ever lived outside of liberal white women.

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Speaker 3: You're it, kitten to Darabah mom Donni.

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Speaker 2: Making his video like he is the president of the

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Speaker 2: United States, it looks more like.

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Speaker 3: He is some kind of dictator out of a South

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Speaker 3: Park film.

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Speaker 8: Benjamin Etnia, who is a war from the architect of

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Speaker 8: a horrific genocide against the Palestinian people. He is responsible

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Speaker 8: for the killing of more than seventy three thousand people,

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Speaker 8: for the maiming of tens of thousands of children, as

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Speaker 8: those who survive undergo amputation without anesthesia, For the targeting

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Speaker 8: of neonatal hospitals and attorney care centers, denying newborns even

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Speaker 8: the chance to live for the countless people he starved

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Speaker 8: as he blocked food and humanitarian aid from reaching them,

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Speaker 8: for the gunning down of hundreds of aid workers and journalists,

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Speaker 8: and just last month, the UN confirmed that Palestinian children

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Speaker 8: continue to be deliberately targeted and killed by Israeli armed forces,

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Speaker 8: more than eight months after the so called ceasefire. The

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Speaker 8: list goes on and on.

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Speaker 2: Can we talk about the list you just put out?

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Speaker 2: You absolutely lie, aar, you bond villain. Israel is not

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Speaker 2: guilty of any genocide, and we have already proven this

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Speaker 2: time and time again. If you wanted to engage in

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Speaker 2: a genocide against the Palestinians, you wouldn't pass out polio vaccines,

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Speaker 2: nor would you identify. Hey, these are the places we're

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Speaker 2: going to bomb and the times we're going to bomb them.

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Speaker 3: You may want to.

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Speaker 2: Leave case closed, you absolute weirdo, lying freak lowlife. Bombing

663
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Speaker 2: hospitals you mean where Hamas was hiding out, because Hamas

664
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: hides behind children and the sick and the elderly, because

665
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 2: they're coward terrorists, low lifes, And that's what you support.

666
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: Maybe it's what you identify with. When you talk about journalists,

667
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: you mean the journalists who were working for Hamas.

668
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: I'm not. I wouldn't even deny that in a.

669
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: War, journalists could have been hurt and were killed targeting journalists.

670
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: Stupid.

671
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: Hamas is the one that took the food. But all

672
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: of this was a pretext. Remember Tamas who kept the

673
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: food from the people. They don't care about the people.

674
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: They cared about the people. They wouldn't have ripped the

675
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 2: pipes out of the ground when Israel gave the Palestinians

676
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: the land and then they elected terrorists and they said,

677
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: we don't worry about growing crops, we'll tear the pipes

678
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: out of the ground.

679
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: So we have missile launchers.

680
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Speaker 2: And you'll note that in his conversation, if I played

681
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: for you the whole thing, this disgusting, despicable human being

682
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 2: named zar On Mamdani, that no one should respect because

683
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: he has nothing to respect. He never mentions October seventh

684
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: and the murder of twelve hundred is rallies and others.

685
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 2: He doesn't mention the rape, he doesn't mentioned setting people

686
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: on fire, he doesn't mention the captivity, he doesn't mention

687
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 2: the abuse, he doesn't mention the sexual abuse.

688
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 3: None of it. I'm telling you now that the Red

689
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 3: Green Alliance is in.

690
00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: Full swing, because what Mom Donnie is saying here is

691
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: that he has to go and get Benjamin when he

692
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: comes to New York because the International Criminal Court has

693
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: deemed him a war criminal.

694
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Speaker 8: All as we as Americans pay for the bombs that

695
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 8: do the killing, there is a reason the International Criminal

696
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 8: Court issued a warrant for his arrest.

697
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 3: As human beings, we.

698
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 8: Have spent generations building a shared understanding that there are

699
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 8: crimes so grave they offend all of humanity. Anyone with

700
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 8: their eyes, with their heart, with their conscience, should recognize

701
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 8: the devastation he has wrought and understand that he belongs

702
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 8: before a court of law.

703
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: If we want to talk about devastation, we need to

704
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 3: talk about communists like maw Stalin Lenin that devastation. That's

705
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: real devastation.

706
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: He wants to arrest Netnah when Netnah who comes to

707
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 2: New York for UN meetings. But he looked at all

708
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: all the available opportunities and he said, oh, I'm sorry,

709
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm just not able to do this. Can't

710
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: I can't arrest him.

711
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: I just don't.

712
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: I'm not given the power to do so, not given

713
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: the power to do so, Yeah, we know, we are

714
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: fully aware, Zorn, We're fully aware.

715
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: That you don't have that capability.

716
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: And then he goes on to say that Benjamin ya

717
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: who is not welcome in New York, he might as

718
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: well just say Jews aren't welcome in New York. Everyone

719
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: gets the message. But remember he is not solely and

720
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: exclusively an anti Semite. This is about the destruction of

721
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: Western civilization. He's fine with people being raped as long

722
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 2: as he likes the people doing the raping.

723
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 3: It's like Bernie Sanders supporting Graham Platner.

724
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 2: Rape is bad unless it's my guy doing the raping,

725
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 2: in which case you should be honored. Yeah, they're really

726
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: that's sick. I'm sorry it has to be said so clearly.

727
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: Maybe they weren't clear enough. Wait, they totally were. And

728
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: then mom, Donnie has asked about this, and he's asked

729
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: whether the law from the International Criminal Court or some

730
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: international law should supersede the laws here in the United States.

731
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 3: What do you think he said, hit about.

732
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 5: Why then Yak who specifically.

733
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 9: Is often targeted in some of your comments, for example

734
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 9: of Venezuelan President Nicholas Madurou, he was arrested for a

735
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 9: warrant that was here in the US, and you were

736
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 9: very against that. So I guess, how do you place

737
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 9: more emphasis on the warrants that were issued.

738
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Speaker 6: By the International Criminal Court than here in the US.

739
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 3: How do you reconcile those I.

740
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 8: Would say that the International Criminal Court is a body

741
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 8: that seeks to hold those across the world accountable for

742
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 8: crimes against humanity, for war crimes, for things of that nature.

743
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: And I think that the United.

744
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 8: States should not only be a party to that court,

745
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 8: but should also execute the warrants that court issues. And

746
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Speaker 8: what I've spoken up about Nicholas Maduro, who I've also

747
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 8: described appropriately as a dictator, is that the violation of

748
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 8: international law is one that has to also be taken

749
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 8: very seriously. It stems from the same belief in the

750
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 8: International Criminal Court, And now he is here in New

751
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 8: York City. On that day when the United States did

752
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 8: violate international law, I made clear that I was an

753
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 8: opposition to that, and it all stems from the same

754
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 8: belief in how can there be a sanctity in something

755
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 8: beyond an understanding of the world where might is right.

756
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: And let's make sure we understand each other when we

757
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: see this from Zarnmumdani.

758
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: What he is saying is we should be subservient to

759
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: international law. This is his argument. How could it not be.

760
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: It's the exact argument from the communists, It's the exact

761
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: argument from the Islamist that we are the problem and

762
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: all of these other things are the way out. All

763
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: these other things are the good and important things. And

764
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: you have younger generations who buy into this. What else

765
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: do they buy into? They buy into the idea that

766
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: somehow they've been done wrong.

767
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 3: And I would put forth to you.

768
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: That they have been done wrong, but they believe they've

769
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: been done wrong by capitalism because that's what they were

770
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: taught high school teachers, college teachers, culture, done wrong by capitalism.

771
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: I got John Leguizamo coming out now, I'm a democratic socialist.

772
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 2: You're just a commede John, and you are an incredible story.

773
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: And yet yes, screwed it all up.

774
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: The country gave you everything, you worked your butt off

775
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 2: for it. You did the one man shows, they were

776
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: something else. You became a star, an unlikely star, and

777
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: what'd you do?

778
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 3: You turn your back on it all. That's what you did.

779
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 3: Don't worry. It's a story.

780
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: That repeats itself, story that repeats itself. How does this

781
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: keep happening? Well, it's a really interesting story that Nate

782
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: Silver has over there at something called the Silver bulletin

783
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 2: which is his substack, and it's called the DSA sweet spot,

784
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: highly educated, downwardly mobile. And you're like, what in the

785
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 2: world does that mean? Now, I've got this on the

786
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: live stream, but I'm going to fully explain it to you.

787
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 2: Check this out. This requires a little bit of attention.

788
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: So what Nate Silver did? Nate Silver was five thirty

789
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: eight blog. Nate Silver is good with the numbers, not

790
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: always perfect, please please don't get me wrong, but this

791
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: is really interesting.

792
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: Nate Silver is looking at the share of two way.

793
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: Vote going to Democratic presidential candidates twenty sixteen to twenty

794
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: twenty four elections.

795
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 3: So when you.

796
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: Take a look at the data that he is putting out,

797
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: this is taking a look at people who have post

798
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 2: graduate degrees and taking a look at their income levels. Right,

799
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 2: postgraduate degrees and income levels. When you take a look

800
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 2: at this, it has high school or less, some college,

801
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: four year college write a bachelor's degree, in postgrad, a

802
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: master's or something else. I by the way, am in

803
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: the some college I never graduated college in case you

804
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: didn't know that. And it will show that there are

805
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: that the numbers of people in the groups and the

806
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: money that they're making. Right, So it has under thirty thousand,

807
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: thirty to sixty thousand, sixty to one hundred thousand, one

808
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 2: hundred thousand to two hundred thousand and two hundred thousand

809
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 2: dollars a year plus, right, those are the groups that

810
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: are in there.

811
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Speaker 3: And I'll read it again for the people in the

812
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 3: chief seats.

813
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 2: This is showing how people with postgraduate degrees, how they

814
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: are doing economically right. So if you take a look

815
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: at the numbers, the numbers show that even those people,

816
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: if thirty to sixty thousand dollars a year, you have

817
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 2: got more people postgraduate degrees in the thirty sixty thousand

818
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: dollars a year, then you have postgraduate degrees in the

819
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand dollars a year. It's really interesting numbers

820
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: and it's worth studying, and it's worth reading the peace on.

821
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 2: But it tells a story that is most unique, and

822
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: it tells a story about how if you were to

823
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: take a look at democrats and the biggest voting group

824
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: the biggest voting group in America are the most democratic

825
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: voting group in America are people with postgraduate degrees but

826
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: lower to middle income. So when you take a look

827
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: at a number, it's like seventy percent postgraduate degree making

828
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 2: thirty to sixty.

829
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 3: Thousand a year. There's a way to look at that.

830
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 3: And the way to look at that is these.

831
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 2: People were told go to college, get a degree, have

832
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: to do this, you have to do that.

833
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 3: This is the way.

834
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 2: That's the system, and they work the system.

835
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: But they didn't get financially rewarded for it. Did they

836
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 3: You don't gonna be wrong. They make a living, but

837
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: they didn't get what they were promised.

838
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: Now, I asked my son about this, my oldest about this,

839
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 2: and what he said was, well, this is the kind

840
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: of data that shows that America hasn't lived up.

841
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 3: To its promise.

842
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 2: It can be seen that way, then America hasn't lived

843
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 2: up to its promise, and that's why younger people are disaffected.

844
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: I thought that was a very interesting take because that's

845
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: certainly something that would be sold to people. Look at

846
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: that America isn't doing what they said.

847
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 3: They would do for you, and there's no movement in.

848
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: America and there's no growth in America, and that's why

849
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 2: capitalism fails. And that's why we need because these people

850
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: did you wrong, and we need socialism so we can

851
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: right the wrongs and we can distribute things fairly. And

852
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: the rich people aren't paying their fair share. It you

853
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 2: see how that can work. This large propensity of people

854
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 2: with postgraduate degrees and they're not making six figures and

855
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: things didn't work out the way they were told they

856
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: were gonna work out, and they're angry and they're upset,

857
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: and here comes socialism communism to say, here are the

858
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 2: people to blame, here's the people to blame.

859
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 3: And all that money it could go to you.

860
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: It's going to Israel, and they're bombs against poor brown children.

861
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: And that's how they sell it.

862
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: I made the argument that I think that's very possible.

863
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: It is indeed sold that way. The problem is it

864
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: leaves off the hook the universities and the high schools

865
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 2: and those counselors and everybody else who said, oh, yeah,

866
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 2: that gender studies degree, great degree. The university just wants

867
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: to get paid because it's a business that doesn't give

868
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 2: a damn about the student at all, and that's true

869
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: at the vast majority of universities, and the vast majority

870
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 2: of universities wants to disagree with me, They're more.

871
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 3: Than welcome to. But I'm gonna laugh at them. You

872
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 3: sold these people a bill of goods.

873
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: You sold their parents a lie while they write you

874
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 2: seventy thousand dollars a year checks for a garbage degree

875
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: where you indoctrinate the kid, actually the adult. Then they

876
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 2: go into the world and you realize there's nothing for them.

877
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 2: That is, if they go into the world, because oftentimes

878
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: they already go in thinking there's nothing for me anyway.

879
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: And that's because those white capitalists stole it from me.

880
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: And I have to change the system in order to

881
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: bring justice. That's what Nate Silver is talking about here.

882
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: And when you're angry at the world and you're looking

883
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: for somebody to blame it all on, and you have

884
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: no concept of history, and you've been lied to about history,

885
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: and you were told Howard Zen was history, you listen

886
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: to Zarnmndani talk about Benjaminettaniaw and you're like, oh, that's

887
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: absolutely right.

888
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 3: Full circle on that one. Yeah, we've got a real problem.

889
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz today, President

890
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 2: Trumble with the ultimatum for the drug companies.

891
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 3: You've got two years or you got two hundred percent.

892
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, guys, great to be with

893
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: You find everything at tonycats dot com, putting out a

894
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: post there on the Truth Social saying that imported generic

895
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: drugs will continue to face a zero percent tariff forgetting

896
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 2: August first for two years, then after a year that

897
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 2: tariff goes bop up to one hundred percent, and then

898
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 2: after that after two years boop up to two hundred percent,

899
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: saying quote, this is done in order to reshore generic

900
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: pharmaceutical production into America, with a penalty to those companies

901
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 2: that decide not to build plant and equipment within the

902
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 2: stated period of time given to them. The objective to

903
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: this policy is to protect the people of the United States.

904
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 2: The policy i'n patented, branded or innovative drugs, which has

905
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: been so successful, will remain as is.

906
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 3: Pharmaceutical facilities are being built at a left I'll never

907
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 3: seen before all over the United States of America.

908
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: Nobody's ever seen anything like it before. That's true in

909
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: some cases. You can't say it about everything sir.

910
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't. You can't say it about it.

911
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: You can't walk out of the bathroom and say that

912
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 2: was done at levels never seen before.

913
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 3: You don't know not everything, sir. The problem here is

914
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 3: not the concept.

915
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 2: You cannot have pharmaceutical manufacturing solely in the hands of

916
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: the Chinese. You're putting an entire population at risk. It's

917
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 2: an insane idea. And I don't mind looking at the

918
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: pharmaceutical companies and saying this is your problem.

919
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 3: You're going to have to fix it.

920
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: The issue is you don't want all the pharmaceutical creation

921
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 2: in the United States. You want a supply chain that's

922
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: a bit spread out, so if there's an issue in

923
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: one place doesn't become an issue in another place and.

924
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 3: You still have the ability to produce. It is not

925
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 3: logistically sound to have all production in the United States.

926
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 3: It is logistically in national security valuable to have some

927
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 3: production in the United States and same thing taking it

928
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 3: all out of China. On that bromo this Tony Katz Today,

929
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 3: Three more things Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today, So good

930
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:22,479
Speaker 3: to be with you guys.

931
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Speaker 2: Find everything at Tony kats dot com. Watch the live

932
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: stream YouTube Tony Kats Today. You got the Facebook, Tony

933
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: Kats Radio, you got Rumble Tony Katz, you got Twitter

934
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: and x Tony Katz Like, subscribe to all the things.

935
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 3: Glad you're there and get in the chatroom. Good people.

936
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 3: Are there three more things?

937
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 2: These are stories that should be front page news, but

938
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: because of all the front page news, they don't get

939
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 2: to be front page news.

940
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 3: Starting with Rand Paul.

941
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: And his release from the Senator that slack messages, right,

942
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: So that's a an app show that the authors of

943
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 2: the COVID nineteen origin paper had private doubts that the

944
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: idea that this came from.

945
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 3: A wet market and that this was an animal.

946
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: Transfer maybe, but it could have been a leak. It

947
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: raised doubts that the virus originated from bats. This was

948
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 2: published in Nature Medicine in March of twenty twenty, and

949
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: even though the paper was pushed to say, oh, it

950
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 2: means this, the authors were like, well maybe it means

951
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: this thing over here. There is no question that data

952
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: was manipulated. We know that Senator Paul has already issued

953
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: us a poeni for Anthony Fauci. Anthony Fauci is not

954
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: to be trusted at any time or in any way.

955
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 3: He lied.

956
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: He lied about Peter Basik, he lied about the money

957
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: to Eco Health Alliance. Of course, we the United States,

958
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: funded gain a function research at the Wuhan Virology Lab

959
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: in Wuhan, China. We funded this our money utilized against us.

960
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 2: You want to talk about war crimes, are on, mom, Dannie.

961
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 2: Take a look at Jijinping for unleashing a virus on

962
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: the world and not only not apologizing for it, not

963
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: only not warning the world, but immediately buying as much

964
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 2: ppe as he could so he could sell it back

965
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: to the world at a prophet. You want to talk

966
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 2: about war crimes, tell what about the enslavement of Wiger Muslims.

967
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: If she comes to the United States and comes to

968
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: New York for the UN, will you try to arrest him?

969
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 2: You want to talk about war criminals, You want to

970
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 2: talk about real murderers, not the nonsense you invents because

971
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 2: you're a fool, because you're a bigot utilizing the Jews

972
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: to get to the.

973
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 3: Destruction of America. We see you. It's a boring story.

974
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: We know it.

975
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 2: It's dangerous as hell, but it's still a boring story.

976
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 2: Let's see if you'll go after g You said war

977
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: criminals are not welcome? What about those who enslave Muslims?

978
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 2: What does islamis? Does our mom Donnie have to say

979
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 2: about the presidents of China who enslaves Muslims? I'll wait,

980
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: I got nothing but time. You know how many bottles

981
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 2: I've got right here here? Hold on me, I'll show you.

982
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: This is all right. So this is the four Roses

983
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: private selection. This is the OEESQ right here, coming in

984
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 2: at a one hundred and eleven proof. So we could

985
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: just sit here and have a drink and then we

986
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 2: can get an answer. We just wait for an answer

987
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: from you. Mayor goodness, Maryamum, Donnie. Uh, if you're gonna

988
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: go after Benjaminett Yahoo for no war crimes, will you

989
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: go after Ji Jinping for imprisoning Muslims?

990
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 3: Just I'm assuming you want to want to double there,

991
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 3: maryor Mount Donnie. Probably a big, big, big glass. Maybe

992
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: we'll get you a pink glass.

993
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 2: You know what, Maybe I'll just give you the bottle

994
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: and a crazy straw. Let's see how you Let's see

995
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: how you handle that one right there. I like what

996
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: rans Paul is doing. I like the aggression with which

997
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 2: Rand Paul is working on this. He has been focused.

998
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: There is a place for him in the conversation, and

999
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: it's it's one of the reasons, you know, Rand Paul

1000
00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 2: does not doctor know like like Thomas Massy does. Remember

1001
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: Thomas Masthew would have more people paying attention. First of

1002
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: he hadn't lost his damn minds. But b if you

1003
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: could realize that not everything requires a know.

1004
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 3: Not everything gets to know.

1005
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: Some things can get to know. We're not arguing that

1006
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: not everything can get to know. Rand Paul votes know

1007
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 2: on things. But Rand Paul delivers man and his work

1008
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 2: on Fauci. He should get some recognition from the Republicans.

1009
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: He should get it from Trump for sure, that this

1010
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: stuff is good stuff, valuable stuff. Then there's the story

1011
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: about the White House moving money towards AI. This is

1012
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: over at the Wall Street Journal, the White House Office

1013
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: of Science and Technology Policy, and what they are saying

1014
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: is that scientists individually can help the nation move faster

1015
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: to use AI and scientific research. And so what they're

1016
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: doing is they are going to move money to individual

1017
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: scientists rather than universities. The scientists can help us with

1018
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 2: the advancement of AI. That advancement of AI can help

1019
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 2: with growth in this and this, it's better we give

1020
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: it to the individual to then work the advancements, then

1021
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 2: give it to the university and deal with their bloat

1022
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 2: and possibly their graft and lordally knows what else. They're

1023
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: not moving fast enough? Why aren't we moving quickly? When

1024
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: I first read the story, I asked, what what are

1025
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: we moving the money for? And then I went to

1026
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: my normal place, which is, well, how much money are

1027
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 2: we giving these damn universities?

1028
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 3: Anyway?

1029
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 2: How much money should these universities be getting? Well, tony,

1030
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,919
Speaker 2: they do very important research. No, no, no, they say

1031
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 2: they're doing very important research. I have no idea if

1032
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 2: they're doing very important research. And the people screaming they

1033
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 2: do very important research have no idea they're doing very

1034
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 2: important research either. Glad we all understand that this overhaul,

1035
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 2: according to the author Amritha Ramkor rum Kamar, Amritha rum Kamar.

1036
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 3: There we go.

1037
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: It's going to reshape two hundred billion dollars in spending

1038
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 2: a year. You have you have Michael Kratzios, who is

1039
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 2: the director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, saying,

1040
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 2: over the last twenty or thirty years, we've become very

1041
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 2: stagnant and believing we should keep funding the.

1042
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 3: Same research in the same way at the same institutions.

1043
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 2: That's good, this is accurate, and this is This is

1044
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: a great example of the differences between Trump and this

1045
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: team and the political left. Trump and this team are

1046
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 2: asking how else can we think about something? It's something

1047
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: I always agree, but they're asking the question. What the

1048
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 2: left is saying is, don't ever mess with the system

1049
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: because that system gets us paid. Usaid was nothing more

1050
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: than a money grab. You're letting children starve in Africa. No,

1051
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 2: we are not letting children starve in Africa. You can

1052
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 2: argue that some programs got shuttered. I can ask why

1053
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 2: we had that program to begin with. If that program

1054
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 2: matters so greatly, can't we fund it through another mechanism?

1055
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 2: Does it have to be Usaid? Show us the program,

1056
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: Explain to us why it's so important. You might get

1057
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of agreements, and then we'll fund the

1058
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 2: program SUTA.

1059
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 3: You want a.

1060
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: Program that I would shutter immediately and move into other programs. Okay,

1061
01:03:55,880 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security, Department of Homeland Security at

1062
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: all or in any way it should be moved.

1063
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 3: Back into the Department of Defense. Some of it moved

1064
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 3: into treasury. We don't need it. It is unnecessary. It

1065
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 3: is bloat. It's bloat. We can cover these things in

1066
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 3: other ways. We don't need this.

1067
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 2: This was a reaction to September eleventh, and here we

1068
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 2: are twenty five years later.

1069
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 3: Twenty five years later. That's that's unbelievable. You know, very

1070
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 3: rarely in my life do I look at at.

1071
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: Time and like and say, wow, that one's so quick. Oh,

1072
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 2: it's going so fast. People say that at a certain age.

1073
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 2: I say that, my gosh, everything's going so fast. Oh

1074
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 2: the kids are so grown everything. I don't feel that

1075
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 2: way ever, and not never, ever, never ever do I

1076
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 2: feel that way. I think time is going exactly.

1077
01:04:58,480 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 3: As it's always gone.

1078
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: But for anybody who experienced September eleventh, I did living in.

1079
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 3: Washington, d C. That's it is.

1080
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: It is a bit of a wow, Well that happened,

1081
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 2: But you're thinking of yourself right now versus then as

1082
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 2: a without thinking of all the things that happened in

1083
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 2: the middle, and a lot happened in the middle, a lot,

1084
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 2: and hopefully it was at least some.

1085
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 3: Good stuff in there, So you shouldn't you shouldn't be

1086
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 3: like the time went so fast. What's happened? A lot happened.

1087
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 3: And if you don't feel enough happened, well you know what,

1088
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 3: there's tomorrow go make a lot happen, or right now,

1089
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 3: go to it. But changing the way we think, changing

1090
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 3: the way we operate. I like it. I'm a huge

1091
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 3: fan of it.

1092
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: Then there's Caitlin Clark, who will not participate in the

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Speaker 2: WNBA three point competition.

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Speaker 3: WNBA is despondent because she didn't participate in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: She was injured in twenty twenty five. Now she's not participating.

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Speaker 3: That's rough. That's the money, and now it won't be there.

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Speaker 3: What's the point of NBA All Star Weekend. It's gonna

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Speaker 3: get hard to get people to pay attention to this

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Speaker 3: stuff without the money. Which isn't Angel Reese.

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Speaker 2: It's Caitlyn Clark and more and more, certainly members of

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Speaker 2: the Indiana Fever, Lexi Hall and Eleiah Boston, but more

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Speaker 2: and more at Sophie Cunningham. Everybody gets the idea that

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Speaker 2: she was already becoming a darling, and then the point

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Speaker 2: she does the point and everyone's like, this is the

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Speaker 2: greatest thing I ever saw in my life. And people

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Speaker 2: are wondering, why won't the NBA the WNBA capitalize on this.

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Speaker 2: The WNBA said, yeah, we're not putting out a gear

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Speaker 2: and licensed merchandise with that photo.

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Speaker 3: We're not doing it because it was a taunting and

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Speaker 3: this and that we're not going to have it.

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Speaker 2: The WNBA is correct, the WNBA is correct that that

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Speaker 2: is not something that you market with the WNBA. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: it is something that the Indiana Fever should market. You

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Speaker 2: don't even have to market it with the point, although

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Speaker 2: it is a meme. She did a basketball camp right

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Speaker 2: here near where I live. She had a basketball camp

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Speaker 2: for girls and some of the girls were part of

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Speaker 2: the Special Olympics, and every girl wanted to take a

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Speaker 2: picture with her doing the point. Can't deny the popularity,

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Speaker 2: but the fever should not be fools. It should be Indiana,

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Speaker 2: the Indiana Fever. That's the point, Indiana Fever. Get to

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Speaker 2: the point, Indiana Fever on point. Everybody knows what it

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Speaker 2: is and for Indiana, for Hoosiers, oh this is this

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Speaker 2: could be institution. Everybody will know what it is and

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Speaker 2: when you do it now, and you gotta do it

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Speaker 2: a little bit down yeah, yeah, to do a little

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Speaker 2: bit down. Everybody knows what you're talking about. So no,

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Speaker 2: the WNBA is correct. You're not going to market it

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Speaker 2: Katz today. I don't know if you categorize this in

1158
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Speaker 2: just weird stories or things you weren't expecting. A missing

1159
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 2: PanAm flight was found Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, an

1160
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 2: absolute pleasure to be with you. Seventy four years ago,

1161
01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 2: a plane crashed off the coast to portoc.

1162
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 3: Fifty two people were killed. They never found the plane

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01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 3: until the June second, twenty twenty six, two thousand feet down,

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Speaker 3: broken into two sections. They used high resolution sonar autonomous

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Speaker 3: underwater vehicle.

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Speaker 2: This was nineteen fifty two. The Clipper Endeavor five crews,

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Speaker 2: sixty four passengers going to New York. After takeoff, engine

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Speaker 2: failure forces the pilot to make a water landing.

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Speaker 3: Everyone of this is the story.

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Speaker 2: Everyone survived the initial impact, but with no safety briefing, provided,

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01:10:55,360 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 2: language barriers, no coordinated evacuation procedure, the aircraft sank in

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01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,799
Speaker 2: three minutes and only seventeen people survived.

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Speaker 3: Holy cow, Now they found that plane. That's a that's

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Speaker 3: a heavy story. This is Tony Katz today. Why from

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Speaker 3: vall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: As I said, just because I've got an idea on

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Speaker 2: something doesn't mean that it's one hundred percent correct.

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Speaker 3: I know that's very shocking to hear from a radio.

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Speaker 2: Host, because every host and every influencer believes that absolutely

1180
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 2: they've got the answer and they always know everything, and

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01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 2: it's not the case. But I've watched now the United

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01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 2: States go at around for eleven days, and I've been

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01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 2: trying to ask myself what is the plan here?

1184
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 3: And I only came up with one.

1185
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 2: Is my assessment of eleven days of hits on Iran correct?

1186
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 2: And if it's not, well, then what the hell's the plan?

1187
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Speaker 2: It's a question America is asking Tony Katz. Tony Kats Today,

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Speaker 2: Good to be with you. Major Mikelines joins us right now,

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Speaker 2: retired United States Army military analyst.

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Speaker 3: His latest piece, which is available at realclear defense dot com,

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Speaker 3: The Iran war is back.

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Speaker 2: The deal that ends. It must not rearm Tehran. And

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Speaker 2: I must tell you, Major, I looked at that headline

1194
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Speaker 2: and I yelled at you.

1195
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:42,799
Speaker 3: I called you names.

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Speaker 2: What are we talking about a deal as if somehow

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Speaker 2: this regime gets to stay. But let's hold off on

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Speaker 2: that for just a moment, and let's start where we start,

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Speaker 2: which is eleven days of hits against Iran.

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Speaker 3: I look at this, sir, and I say to myself,

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Speaker 3: what is the purpose here? What is the purpose?

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Speaker 2: We're hitting coastal this, and we're hitting drone this, and

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01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: we're hitting defence area this and satellite thing this. And

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Speaker 2: the only thing I can come to, the only thing

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01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 2: that made sense to me is this is softening up

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Speaker 2: the ground for a possible ground movement. This is softening

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Speaker 2: things up for when troops of some type start taking

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Speaker 2: those coastal areas even further, enforcing any level of blockade,

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Speaker 2: taking away all ability for them to make money, and

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Speaker 2: start reaching for wherever this nuclear material is. It's a

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Speaker 2: prelude to things for Pickaxe Mountain, and it's a prelude

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Speaker 2: to this regime ending.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I can have people push back on me all they

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Speaker 2: want about ground troops, but leave that to the side.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of concept, it's the only thing I

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Speaker 2: can come to. You don't or do agree with my assessment, No, Tony,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I think that on the surface, strategy is

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Speaker 2: not bombing. It's not just doing what we're doing eleven

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Speaker 2: straight days.

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Speaker 5: The strategy is a combination of the attacks, plus the

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01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 5: snapback sanctions that have taken place. The Chinese now have

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01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 5: been put back in the box that the oil is

1224
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 5: not being moved, and then lastly the naval blockade. So

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Speaker 5: when you combine all those things together, that's the pressure

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Speaker 5: that it's going to take in order to get the

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Speaker 5: regime to come back to the table. I mean, look,

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Speaker 5: this is going to end at some point. We have

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Speaker 5: to figure out, you know, it's short of them, I'm

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Speaker 5: completely imploding and no one, no last man standing. There's

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Speaker 5: going to be an agreement. So that's kind of where

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Speaker 5: that my essay speaks to, my peace speaks to. But

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Speaker 5: getting back the strategy I think is pretty sound, and

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Speaker 5: the problem is the patience that we're going to have

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Speaker 5: to make because there are a lot of military targets

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Speaker 5: and we're also now starting to hit some of the infrastructure.

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Speaker 5: We're hitting some of the dual use infrastructure, and we're

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Speaker 5: also seeing Uranians still having capability. Unfortunately, we lost two

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Speaker 5: service members over the weekend as they you know, can't

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Speaker 5: fire at scale, but they can continue to make you know,

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01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 5: Kavioc with our air defense systems, likely getting help from

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Speaker 5: the Chinese. But I think this plan is solid. I

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01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 5: think we just have to have patients and let's regroup

1244
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 5: in a couple of weeks. Maybe it's going to take

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01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 5: a month, but to get rid of all of these

1246
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 5: targets along the coastline six hundred and fifty miles, this

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Speaker 5: is a military operation that's easily achievable.

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Speaker 3: So let me share with everybody.

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Speaker 2: As we spoke before we went live there, you referred

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01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 2: to this, and I'm not trying to put words in

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01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 2: your mouth. I want to make sure I understand you

1252
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 2: as you would say at Major talking to Major Mike Lions,

1253
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 2: retired the United States Army military analyst, this is part

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01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 2: of a siege mentality, and in the end, we are

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Speaker 2: engaged in siege warfare.

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Speaker 3: So two parts.

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Speaker 2: First explain what is and to the extent, the history

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Speaker 2: of siege warfare, and then what it is that you're

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Speaker 2: seeing from the administration and from Pete Hagseth and the

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Speaker 2: Defense Department.

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Speaker 5: Right, So, siege warfare for the military historians out there,

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01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 5: we'll think about Vicksburg, We'll think about areas where one

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01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 5: army has surrounded another army in such a manner that

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Speaker 5: they really can't move back. Then it was this term

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01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 5: US Grant used of unconditional surrender. That's really where it

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Speaker 5: comes from civil wars when that first was brought up,

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Speaker 5: and siege warfare has been used by the Romans, and

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01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 5: it goes back. So what's happening right now, Like anybody

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Speaker 5: that's telling you that Iran is getting stronger where they're

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Speaker 5: getting attacked on a nightly basis is just completely delusional,

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Speaker 5: because what's happening is a siege. Now the siege is

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Speaker 5: coming from the air. There's no ground troops, there's no

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01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 5: other things, and we're closing off other aspects. But they

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01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 5: are getting weaker by the day and losing revenue opportunities

1275
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,560
Speaker 5: by the day. And from from our perspective again, the

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Speaker 5: way siege works, is that eventually the enemy will capitulate

1277
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Speaker 5: into your terms. I think epic fury just ended too soon.

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01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 5: Thirty seven days wasn't enough. We've really only started the

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01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 5: last eleven days. You know, it's likely that a siege

1280
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 5: could take months. It could take a lot, a lot longer.

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01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 5: It happened in World War Two, the siege of Stalingrad.

1282
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, again from a mill terry perspective,

1283
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 5: it's a mission that is clear, and that's why the

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01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 5: military is, you know, I think being very successful at

1285
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 5: it right.

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Speaker 3: Now talking to Major Mike Lyons, the United States Army,

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01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 3: retired military analyst. So siege, the siege is meant to

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01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 3: bring about capitulation.

1289
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: It is you can't get the dollars in, you can't

1290
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 2: get the food in, you can't get the resources, and

1291
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 2: the people turn on the regime, which is hard to

1292
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 2: do because the people there don't have any of the

1293
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 2: weaponry and the regime has still has plenty of weaponry left.

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Speaker 3: Can you win with a siege attitude?

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01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 2: I mean, we worked for Masada, I mean we could

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01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 2: talk about our sieges have worked over time, but can

1297
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 2: you win this? And what does this administration and the

1298
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,759
Speaker 2: Defense Department see as winning in this regard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean this administration or the regime that runs

1300
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 5: around is clearly baked in after forty seven years, and

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01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 5: the IRGC is not connected with the foreign ministers that

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01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 5: are trying to cut the deal. And when Trump says

1303
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 5: they're calling me tonight ticket it to stop, Well, those

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Speaker 5: are the people that want to make a deal. But

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01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,759
Speaker 5: the IRGC really controls everything. They control the military assets,

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01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 5: they've decentralized them down also to the commanders along those coastlines,

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01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 5: and so that's why again you're seeing the military go there.

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01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 5: So I think that the siege, though, could possibly this

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01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 5: could be the way that as infrastructure crumbles on the inside,

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Speaker 5: that the people might have a chance to rally.

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Speaker 6: Here.

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01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 5: Again, that tipping point could happen. It happened once already

1313
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 5: in nineteen seventy nine when it tipped one way. Could

1314
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 5: it still happened. I don't necessarily think that that will

1315
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 5: happen anytime soon. From the planning perspective, we should still

1316
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 5: try to get to negotiated settlement. But again, continued pressure

1317
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 5: on the military snapback sanctions in the blockade is only

1318
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 5: going to make it worse for a Roun.

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Speaker 3: But again we haven't answered the question.

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Speaker 2: It is maybe this is maybe I'm asking wrong, real Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm asking about objective. Is the objective some deal on

1322
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 2: a piece of paper. Is the objective the full on

1323
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 2: end of the regime?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the objective by the administration is the elimination of

1325
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 5: the nuclear threat and the nuclear making sure that Iran

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01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 5: does not have a nuclear weapon. Secondary objective would have

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Speaker 5: been that ballistic missile capability, all the things that go

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Speaker 5: with that. There's a couple of downstreams. I think the

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01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 5: implied task is regime change, but at this case, the

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Speaker 5: administration would have taken regime compliance.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: If the current regime does comply, then okay, then maybe

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01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 5: the regime doesn't change. Look what happened in Venezuela. We

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01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 5: got regime, didn't have regime change, we had regime compliance.

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Speaker 5: So I think that's kind of the secondary mission. Now,

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01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 5: you asked to the Israelis, theseraelities are like, Nope, regime

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01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 5: change number one. That's their top priority. They're on the

1338
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 5: sidelines right now. I think for a reason. I think

1339
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 5: we've sidelined them politically, because you know, they want to

1340
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 5: get back in the game. You know, they know where

1341
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 5: all the IRGC targets are. You know, they want to

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01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 5: get right back to the decapitation strategy, and I think,

1343
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 5: you know, hopefully maybe in a couple of weeks that

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01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 5: the President does.

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Speaker 3: I have to assume, if it's you and me major

1346
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 3: lions sitting on a bar still having a bourbon, I

1347
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 3: assume that part of what you're saying is absolutely correct.

1348
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 3: The Israelis want in on all of this.

1349
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 2: But I also assumed that they're providing the intelligence and

1350
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 2: maybe a little happy to be able to sit back, Hey,

1351
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 2: don't blame us, this is all the US, and keep

1352
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 2: some of their powder dry and their hardware dry for

1353
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 2: whatever may be coming next. Now, that leads us to

1354
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 2: an interesting part about the response of the Iranians, which

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01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 2: is it hasn't been towards Israel, night after night after

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01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 2: night of some serious bombing, hasn't The response hasn't been

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01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 2: towards Israel. It's been towards Jordan, where we did lose

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01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,719
Speaker 2: to US service members and other members of the military

1359
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 2: were injured, or we'll get to that.

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Speaker 3: It has been towards Baklea and the UAE.

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Speaker 2: Certainly, conversations regarding Saudi Arabia as clearly I Ran activated

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01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 2: the Huti rebels to try and play spoiler in the

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01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 2: Red Sea in other places. Oh disagrees with me on

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Speaker 2: the idea of Ran and the Hooti rebels. We'll get

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01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 2: into that, but let's let's let's let's go back to

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Speaker 2: why not hitting on Israel? Why hitting on all the

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Speaker 2: neighbors and not Israel.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's hard to always figure out what the

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01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 5: Iranians are thinking. They possibly think that they're hanging on

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Speaker 5: for dear life, and some of the things they've said

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01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 5: that have come out of there their their propaganda machine

1372
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 5: the past few days. You know, inviting the Americans to

1373
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,719
Speaker 5: attack on the ground is now getting to the point

1374
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 5: of they recognize that this is the eleventh hour, and

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01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 5: they do things that things are bad, and they think

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01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 5: that possibly by attacking Israel, that that that could tip

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01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,600
Speaker 5: the whole thing over, because if the Israelis decide to

1378
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 5: get in the game and play, it will be escalated

1379
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 5: very quickly. So they're they're still trying to play the

1380
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 5: long game, trying to get the economics of you know,

1381
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 5: the ninety dollars a barrel for oil and all those things.

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01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 5: They're still trying to do that. Israel stays on the

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01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 5: sidelines for right now.

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Speaker 3: But this is where it.

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01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 2: Gets massively confusing. This is where people start pulling out

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01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 2: their hair. If the IRGC, the Islamic Revolutionary guardcore, is

1387
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 2: completely disconnected from the so called leadership, if they have decentralized,

1388
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 2: if they're running their own shop and possibly different shops

1389
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 2: in different places, having their own desires, wants, and needs,

1390
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 2: there is no deal that can be signed.

1391
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 3: So what the hell are we talking about when.

1392
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 2: We talk about the idea that they don't want to

1393
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 2: go after Israel because Israel can tip the scales of things,

1394
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 2: and they still want to make a deal when you

1395
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 2: can't make a deal because the deal makers don't have

1396
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 2: the power to stop the attacks from happening.

1397
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Speaker 5: Okay, so I'm going to get out of the military

1398
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 5: land to get into the political lange. That's a political decision,

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Speaker 5: I think, Tony. I think that that's the president has

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01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 5: made that on purpose because I think that he's trying

1401
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 5: to save Israel a little bit, save some face for them.

1402
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 5: They're likely providing intelligence. But the bottom line is this

1403
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 5: administration is still very much whip sawing back between making

1404
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 5: a deal and firing. I mean, there's nothing kind of

1405
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 5: in between and the strike. And so that's because the

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01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 5: president is trying to heverage, leverage and hedge all of

1407
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 5: his bets on some level. So that's why he still

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01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 5: talks about a deal. He gets out and says, maybe

1409
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 5: we make a deal. Then he says, you can't make

1410
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 5: a deal. So you and I agree, I don't think

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01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 5: you're going to make a deal with this current current

1412
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 5: regime in Tehran, and it's going to take another layer

1413
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 5: or so. And the president even said that himself.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get to your article over there at

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01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 2: real clear defense in just a moment, the Iran wars

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01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 2: back the.

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01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 3: Deal that ends it must not re arm a Tehran.

1418
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 3: I want to get to that in a little bit.

1419
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 2: But I brought up the Hooti rebels and Iran supporting

1420
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 2: the Hootie rebels, and you gave me, for the first

1421
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 2: time ever a shake of the head like, oh, Tony, oh,

1422
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 2: how could you think such a thing. Yeah, the Houti

1423
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,560
Speaker 2: rebels are now acting on their own independently, and if so,

1424
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 2: with what money?

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01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, well it's not even that they're claiming they're going

1426
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 5: to have a naval blockade of that strait that they

1427
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 5: control in there. Now, good luck with that. The United

1428
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 5: States has a carrier group in the region. They have

1429
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 5: cruisers destroyers there. I don't even know what the Houthy

1430
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 5: Navy looks like, but that battle between the United States

1431
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 5: Navy and the Houthy Navy would last twenty minutes. If

1432
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 5: it lasted that, I mean, it would be a target

1433
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 5: rich environment. I'm sure the submarine commanders are sitting there

1434
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 5: begging to get in on that. So again, that is

1435
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 5: pure bluster from the Houthis who he's had a shot

1436
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 5: to get in there. The last time they chose not

1437
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 5: to do it, Israel took out most of their capability

1438
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 5: a few months back, right, you know when they decided

1439
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 5: the Hohothy's decided to launch a couple of missiles at

1440
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 5: Israel and I said, you know what, Enough's enough And

1441
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 5: they went back tenfold at them. So they're not in

1442
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 5: the game that they're the last possible strategic proxy that

1443
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 5: the Iranians have, right hesblah dead, Hamas dead and they're it.

1444
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 5: So and they got a guy, a spokesman that got

1445
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,759
Speaker 5: out there and talked about having a blockade.

1446
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 3: Good luck to that.

1447
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 5: We'll see how long that lasts. And I don't think

1448
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 5: that's going to do anything.

1449
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: So you're you're not saying that that Iran isn't funding

1450
01:24:58,240 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 2: the hoothies that can be happening.

1451
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 3: Shaking in the head.

1452
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 2: Was the idea that who thieves play any role in

1453
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:08,640
Speaker 2: changing the calculus on the ground, That's that's impossible.

1454
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm talking to straight military operational role. If the

1455
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 5: who Thei's decide to get into a military conflict with

1456
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 5: the United States and Iran again, that'll be over in

1457
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 5: twenty minutes. So that's what I'm talking about. They don't

1458
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 5: have the capability to block the strait again. They threaten

1459
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,600
Speaker 5: it with asymmetric weapons with a missile every once in

1460
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,600
Speaker 5: a while, but that missile has a return address, and

1461
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 5: that return address will be fired.

1462
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 3: By ten or twelve.

1463
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 5: Israelly rockets coming right back, which will be precision based

1464
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 5: and hit exactly that, plus anything that's clear and closer

1465
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 5: around it.

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Speaker 3: Major Mike Lyons joining us right now. We're going to

1467
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 3: get more into his article at real clear defense, the

1468
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 3: Iran wars back the deal that ends, it must not

1469
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 3: rearm Tehran. We will get to that and a whole

1470
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 3: bunch more find everything at tonycats dot com. This is

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01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 3: Tony Katz today.

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01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 2: Maybe was that Arizona primary where the DSA member just

1473
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 2: got the crap kicked out of them and it's got

1474
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 2: the DSA on defense. Or maybe it's just people have

1475
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 2: realized that these Democratic Socialists are communists. They talk about communism,

1476
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 2: they support communism, they support the Islamist they're the greatest

1477
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 2: example of the Red Green Alliance, and that everybody who's

1478
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 2: normal is like, these people are absolutely disgusting and nuts.

1479
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 3: This mom, Donnie, He's a scumbag and I'm.

1480
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 2: Thrilled by it. And the DSA is on defense about

1481
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 2: it and it's hilarious. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, Good

1482
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 2: to be with you. Here was some of the latest

1483
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 2: right where you've got. This was put out by Canary

1484
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 2: Mission and they're discussing how important it is to support Rant.

1485
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 3: You can't make this up no way.

1486
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 10: We're governed by dead eyed psychopaths and sociopaths and bloodthirsty imperialists.

1487
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 10: The US government, in Israeli government, they are the terrorists.

1488
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 10: They are the terrorists. They are doing terrorism. If Iran's

1489
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 10: off the table as regional power, that means HESBLA can't

1490
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 10: be funded, Hamas can't be funded, the Hoothies can't be funded,

1491
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 10: like the Shia crescent falls, and then you have nothing

1492
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 10: but regional domination for Israel.

1493
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,680
Speaker 2: The regional domination, as we've discussed many times, will come

1494
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 2: from Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Israel fantasize is about having

1495
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 2: regional domination. But when you're a jew hatting bigot, like

1496
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: like all these DSA members, socialist stops sorry, communists are well,

1497
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 2: what else do you expect?

1498
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 3: This is just a talking point.

1499
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 2: But if Iran is off the table, Hesbela can't be funded,

1500
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 2: Hamas can't be funded, the Hoothies can't be funded.

1501
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 3: And in their warped view, the terrorists aren't the terrorists.

1502
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 3: You're the terrorist. But no, no, no, no, reality doesn't

1503
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 3: say that. Reality says they're the terrorist.

1504
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 2: Hesbla, Hamas, the Houthis terrorists supported by Iran, a terrorist regime,

1505
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 2: and yet they support the terrorist regime.

1506
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 3: And this is where people are like, man, I want

1507
01:27:56,080 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 3: no part of that. That is all just absolutely nutty stuff.

1508
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 3: No thank you, no thank you.

1509
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 2: And then the DSA is out there doing interviews and

1510
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 2: they're answering questions and they're defending the indefensible, like this

1511
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 2: Hassan Piker streamer who dresses up like Chairman Mao and

1512
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 2: celebrates Chairman Mao.

1513
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 3: And what was the latest? He had a picture in

1514
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 3: his studio of the Twin Towers on fire. Isn't that great?

1515
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 2: Let's celebrate nine to eleven taking down the imperial regime.

1516
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 3: This is who they are, and now they're being called

1517
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 3: on it.

1518
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 2: This was Katie Pavlich on News Nation, and all of

1519
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's like, what are you talking about?

1520
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 3: What?

1521
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:43,560
Speaker 8: What?

1522
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 3: What's the big deal?

1523
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 11: All right, So let's move to Hassan Piker, who, of

1524
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 11: course is one of your top campaign surrogates, who's been

1525
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 11: campaigning for DSA candidates in New York City and all

1526
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:56,640
Speaker 11: over the country. Grace, I want to play you a

1527
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 11: clip from one of his streams talking about capitalists and

1528
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:01,600
Speaker 11: how they should be treated, and get your reaction on

1529
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 11: the other side.

1530
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the street, Let the streets, Let the streets

1531
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 3: soak in their red capitalist bloods.

1532
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 11: He also just started displaying a newspaper from September twelfth,

1533
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 11: two thousand and one, in the background of his streams,

1534
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 11: showing the Twin Towers and Golden Flames. So, as one

1535
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 11: of the loudest pro DSA voices, is this something that

1536
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:28,600
Speaker 11: your movement represents?

1537
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 12: Hasana is a shop talk and he is a very

1538
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 12: successful one that has brought a lot of young people

1539
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 12: who are disaffected, who spend a lot of time online

1540
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 12: into a movement that actually connects them with their politics

1541
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 12: and with real action that they can take at the

1542
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 12: ballot box and talking to their neighbors. So I'm not

1543
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 12: in the business of defending the views of every single

1544
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 12: one of our one hundred and twenty thousand members, but

1545
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 12: I think he's speaking to a real anger that people feel.

1546
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 2: Kill the capitalists celebrate September eleventh. That is what the

1547
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 2: DSA wants to defend. That kill the capitalists understands he's

1548
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 2: advocating for murder, and the DSSAY is saying, yeah, well,

1549
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 2: you know a lot of people want to go out

1550
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 2: there and kill what do you expect. These are the

1551
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,719
Speaker 2: people who look at the assassination, the murder of Brian Thompson,

1552
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:29,600
Speaker 2: the United Healthcare CEO, and they go sounds great. Understand

1553
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 2: that they are violent people from the word go. You

1554
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 2: cannot have communism without violence. You cannot have communism without murder.

1555
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:39,560
Speaker 2: It has never happened in the history of man. It

1556
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 2: can't happen in the future.

1557
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 3: They will celebrate the murder, they will explore the murder,

1558
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 3: and then when they get their way, they're still going

1559
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 3: to murder, just each other, until, of course they can

1560
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:54,640
Speaker 3: get murdered by the Islamist But check out the dssay

1561
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 3: all about I don't understand what the problem is. They

1562
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 3: don't have to as long as we do, as long

1563
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 3: as they never get powered. This is Tony Katz today.

1564
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,799
Speaker 2: So every time someone brings up making a deal with Iran,

1565
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what that's supposed to mean. I don't

1566
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 2: know who we're making a deal with. It has been

1567
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 2: my point consistently, Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, an absolute

1568
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 2: pleasure to be with you. And then I saw Major

1569
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 2: Lions with his piece and real clear defense. The Iran

1570
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 2: war is back, the deal that ends. It must not

1571
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:30,560
Speaker 2: rearm Tehran, and I'm like, what possible deal are we

1572
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 2: talking about? And I'm am I really alone on the

1573
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 2: island because I don't I don't think.

1574
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 3: So let's talk to the major himself.

1575
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 2: Talking to Major Mike Lyons, retired United States army military

1576
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 2: Analyti is our military guy.

1577
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 3: His latest peace over there at real clear defense. The war,

1578
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,560
Speaker 3: the Iran war is back. The deal that ends it

1579
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 3: must not re arm Tehran.

1580
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 2: I want to dig in to this article because in

1581
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 2: the headline it's so well, you're saying something that I

1582
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 2: vehement leopos I didn't say. You know, every American is

1583
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 2: with me, not everybody who's a part of the show

1584
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 2: is even with me. And I'm very conscious of them.

1585
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 2: I appreciate them, I disagree with them, and I've made

1586
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:15,719
Speaker 2: my voice clear. They make their voice clear, sometimes lovely,

1587
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:17,600
Speaker 2: sometimes trollingly.

1588
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 3: But still we have the dialogue going on. Well, let's go.

1589
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:25,120
Speaker 2: Back to something that you spoke about earlier, where you're

1590
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 2: talking about siege mentality and that these eleven days of

1591
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,640
Speaker 2: bombings that we've seen the US on around this is

1592
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 2: about the siege. It's about holding them captive. This is

1593
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 2: about breaking things from the inside because they don't have

1594
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 2: the dollars. Things collapsing, And my question was was what

1595
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 2: can a siege mentality take out the regime? And let

1596
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 2: me now go a step further. Can you win this

1597
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 2: end the regime without some level of ground troops.

1598
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 5: Probably not so what's the You know, the level of

1599
01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 5: ground troops though, is nothing like we've seen in this

1600
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 5: century for US forces or even the last half of

1601
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:05,679
Speaker 5: the last century. We're not talking about five hundred thousand

1602
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 5: troops which we sent a desert storm. We're not talking

1603
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 5: about one hundred and fifty thousand we sent to a

1604
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 5: rock over the course of time. We're not talking about

1605
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 5: the four thirty thousand that went to Afghanistan. However, you

1606
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 5: might need to have raids, that's take out maneuver and

1607
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 5: take out large scale formations, cores and divisions which are

1608
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 5: not going because again, first of all, we have no

1609
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 5: element of surprise, and we didn't have them the last

1610
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 5: time either. We told the world we were moving all

1611
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 5: these troops there. Now, if we tried to do it,

1612
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 5: the Iranians could clearly know what was going on. So

1613
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 5: that's not happening now. That's not to say that we

1614
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 5: couldn't do raids. Raids are small unit operations for clear

1615
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 5: military operations in order to take ground for example, carg Island,

1616
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 5: for example, bonder Abus areas that need to be controlled

1617
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 5: on the ground. There they could be raided and they

1618
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 5: could use that force in order to accomplish that military objective,

1619
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 5: but large scale ground troops and occupying tran and classic

1620
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 5: maneuver warfare not happening.

1621
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 2: So this and we could dig more into that, but

1622
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 2: I want to take it to your article because what

1623
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 2: your argument is is that we're going to see behavior change,

1624
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 2: not specifically what I desire, which is wholesale regime change.

1625
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 2: We go to your article and you talk about the

1626
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 2: failure of the MoU the Memorandum of Understanding. This is

1627
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 2: a piece that you wrote with Michael Schwartz, and that

1628
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 2: you discuss that the failure is worth understanding because it

1629
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 2: will shape whatever comes next, and you write, its collapse

1630
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:44,440
Speaker 2: is not merely a diplomatic setback. It highlights the failings

1631
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 2: the next agreement cannot repeat.

1632
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Speaker 5: What were those failings, Well, a lot of it was

1633
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 5: front loaded in favor of the your onions. They eight

1634
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 5: billion dollars at the end of freeing up. We think,

1635
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 5: as I've done some research, a lot of that was

1636
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 5: used in commerce with China. For the Chinese used to

1637
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:03,720
Speaker 5: get air defense systems back through third world countries and

1638
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,639
Speaker 5: other places. Third world parties get that back and allowed

1639
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,680
Speaker 5: Iran after the thirty seven days allow them to do

1640
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 5: some rearming. Now not at scale, they're not manufacturing things

1641
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 5: like they once were. But I think that's number one.

1642
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 5: This this, the last MoU was completely front loaded to

1643
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 5: get the Iranians to act and to see if there

1644
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:24,679
Speaker 5: were and maybe it was done for a reason. Maybe

1645
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 5: it was done to see how they would do it.

1646
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 5: And the fact of the matter is they decided to attack,

1647
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 5: you know, the ships while they were having the Comani

1648
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 5: funeral the whole Their only thing that they had to

1649
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 5: do was to make sure that the straits were open,

1650
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 5: and they didn't. They didn't do that. They had many

1651
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 5: other advantages in that front. There wasn't even a nuclear conversation.

1652
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 5: That's a place in MoU. So again a lot of

1653
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 5: that that that was a really very start to start

1654
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 5: kind of agreement, and the next one has got to

1655
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 5: have a lot more teeth in it in the beginning,

1656
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 5: and that's why it's got to look closer to winning

1657
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 5: as opposed to talking.

1658
01:35:58,840 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 3: But a teeth argument.

1659
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 2: And as you're describing it, because I may view it differently,

1660
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 2: it is something that can be seen by Russia.

1661
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:12,640
Speaker 3: And by China as we've lost a ally and.

1662
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:17,480
Speaker 2: A relationship in the Middle East. It's gone for forever, correct.

1663
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:21,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean China has suffered tremendously on this. No

1664
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 5: one's talking about that because you have people that's so

1665
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 5: critical of America that still believe that this is the

1666
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 5: century of China. Well we're twenty five years into it,

1667
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 5: quarterlyway into it, and doesn't look at all like this

1668
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 5: is the center of China just yet. And this thing

1669
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 5: goes a certain way, which we all think it's going

1670
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 5: to go. The China's Belton Roads initiative that was going

1671
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,600
Speaker 5: to go from there from China and expand through the

1672
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:46,720
Speaker 5: Middle East in Africa, that's over. Because if the United

1673
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 5: States has the kind of input inside of what's going

1674
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 5: to happen in Iran right now, then again that's not

1675
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 5: going to happen. That logistical supply chain is going to

1676
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:57,799
Speaker 5: get cut right in half. China has got more problems

1677
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 5: with its other proxy, its other in Russia. They can't

1678
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 5: get out of their own way, and that's a whole

1679
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 5: other separate situation. So the two major proxies of the

1680
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,600
Speaker 5: Chinese right now, the Unians and the Russians, are both struggling.

1681
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 5: So again I think they've they've they've lost mightily over

1682
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:16,679
Speaker 5: the past year and a half.

1683
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:19,599
Speaker 2: Talking to Major Mike Lyons, retired in the United States

1684
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 2: Army military analysts. Let's go back to your piece at

1685
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,240
Speaker 2: Realcleardefense dot com.

1686
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 3: The Iran war is back.

1687
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 2: The deal that ends it must not rearm tetron. How

1688
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 2: does any deal end when as you are, or has

1689
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 2: any deal get consummated? When I go back to this

1690
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:44,640
Speaker 2: point because I think you're correct, right, I think you're

1691
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 2: you're accurate.

1692
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 3: You've got a total decentralization.

1693
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 2: You have these IRGC units in different spots around or on,

1694
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 2: acting independently of each other, never mind independently of.

1695
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 3: Whatever we want to call leadership, no matter what their

1696
01:37:56,920 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 3: title may be. We have an iatola that clearly is alive.

1697
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 2: I don't think that this isn't even in any way

1698
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 2: a question that's laughable to think otherwise. When the Foreign

1699
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 2: Minister says I've never met him, Yeah, okay, all right, yeah,

1700
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 2: you're signal received, sir.

1701
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 3: We get you on this case.

1702
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still don't understand how it's possible that a

1703
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 2: deal gets made that we trust, and I don't understand

1704
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 2: how a deal can happen that still doesn't involve nightly

1705
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:28,760
Speaker 2: bombings of these positions where IRGC members are or they're

1706
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 2: moving weaponry, et cetera.

1707
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 3: So again I ask, who are we signing with.

1708
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean probably we don't even know yet. Maybe,

1709
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 5: but you know, war's end when the guns go silent,

1710
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 5: as simple as that. And so when we feel when

1711
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:47,719
Speaker 5: the traffic goes to the streets unimpeded, when the confidence

1712
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 5: returns and the military has accomplished that objective, I think that,

1713
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 5: you know, that would be a step towards that process

1714
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 5: that could take place. You know, right now, though it's

1715
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:05,719
Speaker 5: missile math, right, the Ranians still probably have five hundred

1716
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 5: to one thousand missiles that they could still fire and shoot,

1717
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 5: and not at scale, but threatened Jordan, Oman, Qatar and Kuwait,

1718
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 5: and they can still do all those kinds of things.

1719
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 5: So that's why I'm saying, the military's got to grind

1720
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 5: this down for a few more weeks, likely months, and

1721
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 5: then we'll come back and revisit here in the fall.

1722
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 5: The thing about it is again to go back to

1723
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 5: the politics. The president doesn't care about the midterms, obviously,

1724
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 5: is not you know, any politician would try to solve

1725
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 5: this problem. Maybe that's what the first MoU tried to do.

1726
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 5: Because he definitely let the Vice President lead on it.

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Speaker 5: He felt that he's in that camp that thinks that

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Speaker 5: you can negotiate with these people in Iran. Now he's

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Speaker 5: found out that that can't be the case. So it's

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Speaker 5: going to extend.

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Speaker 3: And I clearly, you know, as bright as the Vice

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Speaker 3: President is, there is a serience, in my view, naivete

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Speaker 3: on foreign policy. Whether we're talking about Russia, Ukraine, whether

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Speaker 3: we're talking about Iran, he has a view that simply

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Speaker 3: does not comport with reality. Let me change the subject

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Speaker 3: half a click here.

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Speaker 2: And there's been some criticism of the Pentagon, specifically Secretary Hegseeth,

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Speaker 2: because we did have two soldiers.

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Speaker 3: Killed in that bombing ray by Iran in Jordan.

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Speaker 2: We also had casualties, we had people injured, and somehow

1741
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 2: that either got misreported, low reported, or non reported, including

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01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,919
Speaker 2: not being discussed and announced by the Pentagon.

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Speaker 3: Now we've got two subjects here.

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01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 2: First, the very idea that our press is only interested

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01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:35,440
Speaker 2: in highlighting casualties to try and bring pressure to the administration.

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01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:38,680
Speaker 2: And America has lost its stomach for what it is

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Speaker 2: to be at war in and of itself. Compared to

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Speaker 2: how we have dealt with things in the past, and

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01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:45,719
Speaker 2: I do believe that that is a problem.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's.

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Speaker 2: Equally a problem if the Pentagon is trying to hide

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01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:52,839
Speaker 2: numbers from the American people. It's a terrible look for Pete. Hegseth.

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01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 2: I don't care if Pete's happy with me or not.

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Speaker 2: The Secretary is wrong to not announce numbers, and the

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01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 2: Pentagon is wrong to announce numbers.

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Speaker 3: What is the standard practice here? What is the take

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Speaker 3: on this story?

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Speaker 5: I mean, the Pentagon hasn't had you know, daily or

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Speaker 5: even you know, weekly press releases. We get information yesterday

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01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 5: when they testified in front of Congress, and the pendulum

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01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 5: has swung back to not as transparent as they think

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01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 5: it is, or they're telling us it is. It's because

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01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 5: it's clear that from from a number of perspective that

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01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 5: you know, obviously two lost lives, and you know, every

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01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 5: knock on the door is something in the family and

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01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:31,639
Speaker 5: everyone wants to have but commanders expect losses. And there's

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01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 5: no question that this conflict does not have the same

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01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 5: level of body bags. In fact, we had one hundred

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01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:39,679
Speaker 5: and fifty body bags coming back like we had weekly

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01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 5: in Vietnam. That you know, people would then really lose

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01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 5: their minds. But but the thousand or the one hundred

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01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 5: or so was the number on the concussions and injuries,

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Speaker 5: with ninety seven percent returning to active duty. I mean,

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01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 5: there's fifty thousand troops in the Middle East, So again

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01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:58,960
Speaker 5: it's a numbers game that the numbers are still very low.

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Speaker 5: Protection of the force is the number one of the

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01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 5: number one priorities of any military I can tell you this.

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Speaker 5: When I was in combat, I was so confident in

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01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 5: our equipment. I was so confident wasn't going to cause

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01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 5: us to get killed. And I looked at the enemy's equipment.

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01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 5: I saw Russian BMPs and Russian tanks and said, these

1782
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 5: are death traps. Our equipment is solid. And I looked

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01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 5: at you know, the soldiers that were killed and Jordan

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01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 5: were Patriot Missile soldiers and so they were obviously fighting

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01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:27,680
Speaker 5: their weapon when that happened. They were outside, they were

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01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:30,720
Speaker 5: in an area that they knew that it was could

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01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 5: possibly have that conflict. But they had that kind of

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01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 5: job where they were on the front lines. And that's

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01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 5: the thing about warfare today. You don't have to be

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01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:39,400
Speaker 5: infantry on I me on the front lines anymore, and

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01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 5: those Patriot missile defenders. I mean, my heart goes out

1792
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 5: to those guys and gals that are doing that every day.

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01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:48,280
Speaker 2: But what am I off base and saying that the

1794
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 2: Pentagon should be more forthcoming when they have information that

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01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 2: isn't going to put.

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01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 3: Troops in harm's way. The information should be shared.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't disagree that. I think it should be.

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01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,879
Speaker 5: And I think the Pentagon on hag Set in particular,

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01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 5: is trying not to create a you know, body count

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Speaker 5: situation that he saw destroying the military during the Vietnam War.

1801
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 5: I mean, he's somewhat of a historian. He goes back

1802
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 5: and looks at that, he looks at he saw what

1803
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 5: happened in Afghanistan and Iraq as well, the same kind

1804
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 5: of thing. And he's not he's you know, they're looking

1805
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:22,040
Speaker 5: for the bring up the Walter Cronkite moment there, you

1806
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 5: know who's now you have still the support from Republicans

1807
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 5: is still maybe not that great. But when you have

1808
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:31,439
Speaker 5: Democrats come out talking about endless war, this is not

1809
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:34,599
Speaker 5: an endless war, Tony. That's another thing, not an In fact,

1810
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:36,640
Speaker 5: the endless war started with Iran. They've been at war

1811
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 5: with US for forty seven years. From their perspective, it's

1812
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 5: an endless war. This is this is over when we

1813
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:43,640
Speaker 5: decide to say it's over, when we declare victory. I

1814
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 5: just want us to declare victory and it actually looks

1815
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 5: like victory. Would also agree that, yeah, this is victory.

1816
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 5: This is what victory looks like.

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01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:51,759
Speaker 2: And I think you only get victory when the regime

1818
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 2: is gone. But I know there are some who will

1819
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 2: disagree with me. I will keep on and keeping on.

1820
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 2: Major Mikelions, retired in the United States Army military analyst.

1821
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:02,680
Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the time to be with us.

1822
01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 2: There's more show to get to keep it right here.

1823
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:07,760
Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today speaking of the war. He

1824
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 2: seth looking for an additional sixty seven sorry eighty seven

1825
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:16,599
Speaker 2: billion dollars for the war, and President Trump will attend

1826
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:21,519
Speaker 2: the dignified transfer of four US service members at Dover.

1827
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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

1828
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Speaker 2: The number increased from to.

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Speaker 8: Four.

1830
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 3: Sergeant Angel Rampersaid, Sergeant Michael Emmanuel Swinton, Private Isabella Gonzalez,

1831
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 3: and First Lieutenant Tyler James Fihan were killed in those hits.

1832
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 2: By Iran and my conversation with Major Mike lyons I

1833
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:53,600
Speaker 2: am there there is a real softness amongst the populace.

1834
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 2: If we are in a fight, we are in a

1835
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:59,639
Speaker 2: fight and our lives going to be lost. Sadly, Yes,

1836
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 2: that's why you don't go to fight just willie nilly.

1837
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:06,519
Speaker 2: It has to matter and the way you make it matter. Certainly,

1838
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 2: there has to be a cause, but there has to

1839
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 2: be a resolve to the end, which is why I

1840
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 2: don't like what it is that I've.

1841
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 3: Seen from the White House.

1842
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 2: And it's not that I don't understand Trump and how

1843
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 2: he'll say one thing and do another thing. It's that

1844
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 2: it's clearly been a different message between Trump, Rubio and

1845
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 2: Jade Vance.

1846
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 3: Clear different message. Man, that's not what you want. And

1847
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 3: I'll say it again. Jd. Vance is not with me

1848
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 3: on foreign policy at all.

1849
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 2: And I don't think his foreign policy view is a

1850
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 2: view that is grounded in the reality. It's rather presented

1851
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:48,759
Speaker 2: in the fantasy of somehow we could just do nothing,

1852
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:52,559
Speaker 2: mind their own business all the time, not partially all

1853
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:57,600
Speaker 2: the time, and be fine. Nope, I don't think that's legitimate.

1854
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 2: Because the enemy is conspiring against you. You me and

1855
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 2: we yes, the enemy is the terrorist regime of Iran. Yes,

1856
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 2: the enemy is China. Yes, the enemy is Russia. And

1857
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 2: they're talking to me amongst each other. And then they're

1858
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:09,879
Speaker 2: pressing things in Cuba, and they're pressing things in Venezuela

1859
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 2: until we took Maduro out, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

1860
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:16,560
Speaker 2: The world's happening all around us, and we have to

1861
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:19,560
Speaker 2: accept the fact that it is, and we have to

1862
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:24,759
Speaker 2: be willing to do something about it when the moment comes.

1863
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 2: I think at madness that somehow there are people out

1864
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 2: there like, nope, no, no, it doesn't affect us. It's

1865
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 2: like those people in New Jersey. Sixty six hundred people

1866
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 2: here illegally or non citizens i should say, registered to

1867
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 2: vote in New Jersey between June of twenty twenty four

1868
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 2: and June of twenty twenty five, you know, just in

1869
01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:50,120
Speaker 2: time for an election, and New Jersey's like, well, that

1870
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 2: was just a glitch.

1871
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 3: What do you mean it was a glitch?

1872
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:56,439
Speaker 2: Non citizens registered to vote, when, of course the left

1873
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 2: tells us all that never happens. They don't register to vote,

1874
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:01,799
Speaker 2: and then they go full me Herono, the Senator from Hawaii.

1875
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 2: Why would somebody here illegally or non citizens even want

1876
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 2: to vote in our elections. These people are embarrassing, they're embarrassing, empathetic,

1877
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 2: and they cannot be allowed power. I'll say it again,

1878
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 2: they can't win in November. You just gotta get out

1879
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 2: and vote, you gotta overwhelm. Too big to rig is

1880
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 2: actually something I do concur with. Find everything at Tony

1881
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 2: Katz dot com. I'll catch you tomorrow.

1882
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 3: Everyone, take care