1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: It is Query and Company, No Query, just the company. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: He gets a Friday afternoon off. My name is Greg 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Reistraw Andy Garrison on the ones and twos, and we'll 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: do the typical substitute teacher thing, and that is trying 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: to get to as many guests on the program as possible. Again, 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: Indiana football will still be our dominant topic, but where 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: now four days removed from a championship. We will start 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: to sprinkle in a few other things as we go along. 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: But off the top of the show, no, we're talking 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: about the Hoosiers. And I thought about this knowing I 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: was going to have this as sign up. 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: For the last two or three days. 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Who do I want to get on? That's a little 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: bit different voice wise than what you normally get to hear. 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: And I thought about all of my friends that played 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: at IU. This is the closest friend I have of 17 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: that group. He and family wouldn't have missed this for 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: a world. I saw their pictures on Facebook from hard 19 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: Rock on Monday night, and I hope his tan is 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: matching his smile. Dan Thompson joins us now on the 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: Java House Peel and poor guest line, how you doing 22 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: my friend I'm. 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: Doing fantastic, Greg. How about yourself, I'm good. 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: Have you made your way back to central Indiana or 25 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: have you just moved operations to South Beach At this point, 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: I would. 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 3: Love to stay down there a little bit longer, for sure, 28 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: you know, just reminiscing with some of the old teammates 29 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: and friends. We had a great time down there, But nope, 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 3: came back to the cold and I made an Indiana week. 31 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: So I wore a IU National Championship quarters it shirt 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 3: whatever be every day since I went back to the office. 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: So, well, you run the office, your name's on the business, 34 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: you uns at the dress code, and you can get 35 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: to wear whatever you want to. How many of the 36 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: three ball games would you attend? 37 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: I took? We attended them all. So we started with 38 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: the Big Ten Championship and then out for the Rose Bowl, 39 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: which was absolutely amazing. I mean, not only beating a 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: blue blood and you know, Alabama, but just having all 41 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: of the IU fans there was just an incredible, you know, 42 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: almost fulfilling experience of him win. When we had the 43 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: IU cheer, you could hear the IU echo around the 44 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: bowl throughout the game. It was it was fantastic. We 45 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: took the RV down to the Peach Bowl and that was, 46 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: you know great. We had Kelly hammhd's another friend of mine. 47 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: She and I did put a tailgate on and we 48 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 3: had about three hundred people, about sixty former teammates and friends, 49 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: celebrating the last time we were down as well as 50 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: this team obviously. And then of course I chose not 51 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: to drive the RV all the way down to Miami. 52 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: We just flew down and spent time with friends down there. 53 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: That's a crazy place to watch, at least a tailgate 54 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: for the game. Not as easy as everything else. 55 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: But now, given the amount of money that Dan just 56 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: spent the month, we have to change his office to 57 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: the Thompson not as wealth management group. He'll build it 58 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: back up in the market for you soon, I promise you. Then, 59 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: one of the things that hit me knowing you and 60 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: I would have a conversation about this on the air 61 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: or off the air, because there has been such a 62 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: My god, this is the losing his program in the 63 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: history at major college football, and now look at him. 64 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: My guess is, since you were a part of the 65 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: most sustained run of success before the last two years, 66 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: you might take a little umbrage with that. So what 67 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: is it like saying, hey, wait a minute, we were 68 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: pretty good back in my day too. 69 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: You know, that's excellent point, Greg, is that our teammates 70 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: and I were kind of like, wait a minute. You know, 71 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: we did win games. We were ranging the top twenty five, 72 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: we did go to bull games. We had I forget, 73 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: I think it was twenty seven people during the class 74 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: that I had. Was are excusing the classes that I 75 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: had within the NFL and played in the NFL, and 76 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: so we had talent. What we did I didn't have 77 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: was the commitment from the university that is now there. 78 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: And so if you look at what we had, we 79 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: had success. But then it got to be a little 80 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: embarrassing that I was on the last winning bowl team. 81 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: You know, that was I'm fifty five tomorrow, so I mean, 82 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 3: that's a long time since we were winning, you know, 83 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 3: a bowl game. So we are so thankful that the 84 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: program is now supported more by the university, but thankful 85 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 3: for these players. I mean, I was blessed that Fernando 86 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 3: played with my cousin, my nephew out at cal and 87 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: I got to meet him at my nephew's wedding this 88 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: this summer. It was the first time that I really 89 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: knew what kind of young man he was. My assister 90 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: introduced me to him and he's like, when did you 91 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: play And I said, well, it was eighty nine through 92 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 3: ninety three, And before I could say another word, he 93 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: was like, well, that's Bill Mallory's years. He's the winning 94 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: this coach. And I used sports history. You guys went 95 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: to several bowl games. He goes, were you on the 96 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: Peach Bowl? Were you on? And he went through he'd 97 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: only been there for three month, and he knew more 98 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 3: about IU football than almost anybody else. I talked to 99 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: you outside of the players, and it was genuine. He 100 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: was just a genuine person. And it's so fun to 101 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: watch him now and to see that that truly is 102 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: the person that he is that you see, you know, 103 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: with the interviews and the way he leads his team 104 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: and leads leads by his faith. Can't say enough good 105 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: things about Fernando Again. 106 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: Dan Thompson is our guest talking about Monday Nights National 107 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: Championship game and again getting his unique perspective as a 108 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: player and former analyst on the radio network here on 109 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: ninety three to five and one seven for the fine. 110 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: In your five years at IU, three bowl games are four? 111 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: What was the total three bowl games? 112 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: Three? 113 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 2: Okay, that's still very impressive. 114 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: The Peach Bowl and the Copper Bowl and the Independence Bawl. 115 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: Right, Independence Ball and was your last game, and Robbins 116 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: the Copper Bowl obviously was the last win until New 117 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: Year's Day When you were in school. Was the goal 118 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: always a Rose Ball as they thought of a national 119 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: championship ever, something that was truly in your mind, you. 120 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: Know, that's a great point. We didn't really think about 121 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: national championship. So you thought if you went to the 122 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: Rolls Bowl, that kind of was the national championship because 123 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: you know, back then it was voted on. And you know, 124 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: that was the one thing that our senior year, we 125 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: had lost a close game at Penn State, we had 126 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 3: lost on a we fumbled going into for the winning 127 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: score against Wisconsin earlier in the year, and then we 128 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 3: lost a close one at Ohio State. And that year 129 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 3: which really one of the best years they've had since, 130 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: you know, the eighty seven team, when if they'd beat 131 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: Michigan State, they would have gone to the Rose Bowl. 132 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: So it was you know, it was one of our 133 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: last chances, if you would. While we were there to play, 134 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 3: the interesting part was that we were told that we 135 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: couldn't go to the Citrus Bowl because the school wouldn't 136 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: guarantee the tickets. So we ended up that year eight 137 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 3: and three, third in the Big Ten, going to the 138 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: Independence Bowl in Shreveport, Louisiana instead of the Sitters Bowl 139 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 3: YA on New Year's Day. And of course they took 140 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: Michigan because they were guaranteed that tickets were spent. So 141 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: when I don't think it lightly when I said the 142 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: university has finally gotten behind the football program, and it's 143 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: so great to see. Of course, that's taking nothing away 144 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: from the talent. I mean, if you look across the 145 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: board that that's an incredibly talented group of young men 146 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: and coaching staff on the team now. So it's it's 147 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: wonderful to watch. 148 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,559 Speaker 1: When you first met Kurt or first heard him talk, 149 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: at what point in time in the last twenty five 150 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: months do you say, hey, we've got something special here. 151 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: It's well, the first time I met him, I wasn't 152 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: impressed at all. We're at the coach's convention and I 153 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: had introduced myself as a former player, and I'm friends 154 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: with Bob Bostad, the offensive line coach, which I still 155 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: believe was the greatest deal from a coaching staff we've 156 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: had from a position coach, because he's one of the 157 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: top three, I think offensive line coaches in the country. 158 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: And he introduced me to Coach Signetti and and coach 159 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: talked me for about, I don't know, two and a 160 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: half minutes and needed the He left like, oh, okay, 161 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: that was that was uninspired, you know, for that piece. 162 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: But from everybody that I've talked to, he's just he's 163 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: maybe not as great at, you know, shaking hands and 164 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: kissing babies as he is is coaching football, and he 165 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: just wants to hold up in his office and you know, live, sleep, eat, drink, 166 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: you know, drink football. So you can't argue with the results. Greg. 167 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: It's absolutely amazing how prepared and how complete this team is. 168 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: If you look at the lack of miss tackles, the 169 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: the yards after catch are so limited by this defense, 170 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: it's unbelievable. And then what they're able to do offensively 171 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: by utilizing you know, I think one of the underrated 172 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: players in that team is a tight end. Riley Melkowski 173 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 3: is just the way he blocks is outstanding and you 174 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: know still can catch the ball, you know, well, but 175 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: his blocks just opened things up for people, and uh, 176 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 3: it's just a complete team. 177 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: Your membership in the tight End Union has been approved 178 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: for one more year to give the love of the 179 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: tight End. Well done on your part there again, Dan Thompson, 180 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: jording me, Greg Rekshraw and for j Query here on 181 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: ninety three five and one oh seven five of the Fan. 182 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: So all right, so I'll tweak that last question a 183 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: little bit. If he didn't why you were the first 184 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: impression And frankly I met Kurt last spring and kind 185 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: of had a similar thought on that front as well. 186 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: So with that, as last year starts, what were things 187 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: you were seeing on the field and go, hey, that 188 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 1: looks different. Hey I've not seen this before or I 189 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: haven't seen this in a long time. 190 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: You know, the first thing, it's going to sound weird 191 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: with more disappointment as a fan. You're looking at right, 192 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: why are we not playing Louisville? Why are we not 193 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: you know, allowing the fans to see, you know, some 194 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: of these teams that you know, we think we can 195 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: beat overall, So seeing that he had a plan in 196 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 3: place to build from the ground up, you know, the 197 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: first few games, Yeah, maybe the talent wasn't what we 198 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: had hoped the faith. I mean, you look at this year. 199 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: He played what old Dominion kennessall State Indiana State before 200 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: we hit into Illinois. I mean, but you could see 201 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: each step along the way the team is getting more 202 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 3: and more fundamentally sound and getting more confidence leading into 203 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: the Big ten. And then of course you when you 204 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 3: just drill Illinois sixty three to ten, that's uh. I 205 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 3: think we all kind of jumped on board. Then. 206 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: I think everybody is with that. All right. What would 207 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: Bill Mallory be saying about this old experience? 208 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: You know that's not to get emotional about it, but 209 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: I was sitting there in the stadium afterwards, watching all 210 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: the celebration, and you know, coach passed several years ago, 211 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: and just thinking how happy, how fulfilled he would be, 212 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: you know for this program. He would be so proud, 213 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: you know of Coach Signetti. You know, in the players 214 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: and I talked about some of my former teammates, I know, 215 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: Chris Dyer and I had mentioned it that John Pacey 216 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 3: and I talked to about a little bit Tory Drake 217 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 3: I mean these different guys that it was like, you know, 218 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: Coach would really he'd really be happy. He would have 219 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: his chest out high, he have his jaw locked, and 220 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: it would be all you know, I knew any and 221 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: a football could be there. I can just hear him 222 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 3: saying it. 223 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: Again, Dan Thompson joining us. But I think once ago, 224 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: my friend, it's always ready to catch up with you, 225 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: both on the air or off. 226 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: You have always been a very proud alum. 227 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: And Dan and I see each other now not as 228 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: much as we used to, but we still work together 229 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: every year on the old oaken bucket luncheon. And I 230 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: think the days of saying they're playing just for pride, 231 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: we can retire that statement now given the fact that 232 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: Niana has won a national championship. How do you carry 233 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: yourself differently when you sell somebody I played football at 234 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: Indiana University. How is that a different statement for you now? 235 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: Then maybe it would have been two years ago or 236 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: longer ago. 237 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: You know, you know me really well, is that I'm 238 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: very proud played football all Indiana, no matter what the 239 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: records were. The young men that I played with back 240 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: in the day are not only talented, but they're phenomenal people, 241 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: and coach Mallory and the staff did a you know, 242 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: a great job of recruiting that type of person. The 243 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: difference is the reception now, the reception by different people. 244 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: There used to be a core people who just were 245 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: I use football fans, and they were a small in number. 246 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: And now you talk to people and they're like, oh, wow, 247 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: you played IU football. And it's the same people I 248 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: talked to, you know, a year or two ago. They 249 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 3: nearly didn't care at all, And now it's a different 250 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 3: reception by these people. And you know, I think it's 251 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: just great for the university, for the team, you know, 252 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 3: for the sport. I mean, look at all the money 253 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: that's flowed through not just Bloomington, but the entire state 254 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 3: of Indiana by success of the football program. So I 255 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: think a lot of people are benefiting from that and 256 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: that helps us as well. From as former players, I mean, 257 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: the most enjoyment I've had through this is a I 258 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: from the success in the team is this is the 259 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 3: first time I've seen a lot of my you know, 260 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 3: former teammates. I mean, everybody gets busy, and yeah, you know, 261 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: when you're not winning, we try to have reunions and 262 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: some guys get back, some guys don't. But you know, 263 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: you go to the Rose Bowl and that was a goal, 264 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: the number one goal of the program from a football 265 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: you know performance standpoint when we were all there. So 266 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: seeing all the guys that were able to come out 267 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 3: to the Rose Bowl and then the more guys at 268 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: the Peach Bowl, and then seeing you know, more guys 269 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: that you know the Independence Bowl. You know, the von Dunbars, 270 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: the Anthony Thompson's, the Trent Greens, the you know, Thomas Lewis, 271 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 3: you know all these guys who played in the NFL, 272 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: and there's so many more, you know al Thermatory Dray. 273 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: I mean, shoot, there's probably sixty or seventy guys that 274 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 3: we saw, you know, off of the teams for those years. 275 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: It's just, you know, just amazing and it's just fun. Right, 276 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: He's just back to fun. 277 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: So you're telling me, I'm playing a bigger room next 278 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: year for the old Oak and Bucket lunch, and I 279 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: su prepare more jokes on a bigger speech. 280 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 3: You know, more guys that give me a hard time 281 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: that we we don't do a good enough job of 282 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: getting the word out. 283 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think what do you think we're doing 284 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: right here, buddy, I. 285 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 3: Know you're doing a great job. Greg, And as always 286 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 3: I hope you know this is that we always appreciate 287 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: your such you know, a fundamental part of our success 288 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: with that oaken bucket luncheon, and your wit and your 289 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: candor is always much appreciated, as well as your knowledge 290 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 3: about the game obviously, But thank you again for being 291 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: there as or MC. 292 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: You read that exactly, that written it down for you, 293 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: so thank you for following the script. I appreciate you. 294 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: Tell the rest of the family said, I said, hello, 295 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: We'll see you soon. 296 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: All right, thank you, my friend Dan Thompson. 297 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: What Jake query getting to enjoy a three day weekend, Greg, 298 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: Regstraw is my name filling in for Jake Kevin Bowen 299 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: on the other line. 300 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: We'll get to him coming up in a matter of moments. 301 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: In fact, he is ready as we speak on the 302 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: Java House Peel. 303 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: And poor guest line. I'll tell you more about our 304 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: friends at Java House than a matter of moments. 305 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it's fair. 306 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: I was on your show this morning, you can be 307 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: on my show this afternoon. 308 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: That's the way this works, right, No, I. 309 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 4: Was gonna say I was very happy when I was 310 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 4: informed that you were filling in today. 311 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 5: So great to hear your voice. 312 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: All right. 313 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: So people have asked us to make the Buddy trip 314 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: to South Bend like a live stream event. Do we 315 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: need to take along like the fans social media team 316 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: to make this a whole day thing on Tuesday? 317 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I have heard that. I've also 318 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 4: heard that we should auction off the back seats. 319 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: Should I ask for more tickets? 320 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 5: You know, we get. 321 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 4: Well, Unfortunately, I don't think this would be too hard 322 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: to come by with how the attendance typically is. But 323 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 4: you know, maybe down the road, right, you know, we 324 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 4: can auction that off, give a some moneyway to charity. 325 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 3: Or something, all right. 326 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: I was going to go pure profit. 327 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: If you want to bring in charity and actually do 328 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: something good with this, well that's what makes you a 329 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: better man than me, all right. So what I am 330 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: doing today is trying to figure out what is the 331 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: proper balance of still talking in again of football, but 332 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: not completely ignoring everything else that is going on in sports. 333 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: So Tuesdays a day where it's all I you football, 334 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: What have your show been like? What has your show 335 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: been like over the last three days. 336 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's certainly still been mostly IU football. 337 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 4: We've sprinkled in some totally need to realize we have 338 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: listeners that are not just I you football fans, but 339 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 4: at the same time, it's a story that, you know, 340 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 4: frankly is a national story considering the historical nature to it. 341 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 4: So you know, we've definitely had a little bit more 342 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 4: of you know, I you on and we talked with 343 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 4: Dave Don Fernando Mendoza's high school coach on Wednesday, so 344 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 4: enjoyed that conversation. He actually joined us right before the 345 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 4: Heights of Trophy ceremony, so he has some interesting hidfits 346 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: and you know, obviously rank when you continue to think 347 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 4: back on Funday and now you're starting to see the 348 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 4: d Angel Pond's news declaring for the draft that Doza. 349 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: You know, I think we're still up in the air 350 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 4: about Omark Cooper Junior. You know, it's probably been a 351 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 4: little bit of transition into like, okay, what is next 352 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 4: year and everything, And honestly, when it comes to colts, 353 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 4: they are I mean, I guess to tell the whatever 354 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 4: the Jim Mercy News or you know, if you want 355 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 4: to play Louian Rumo with a. 356 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 5: With the Buffalo Bills. 357 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 4: They are one of the quieter teams so far of 358 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 4: the offseason, just given the stability that they're running a 359 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 4: back with and obviously not in playoffs. 360 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: All Right, So, if there is one element of not 361 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: just the game on Monday, but of all of this, 362 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: of the fact that you and I are having a 363 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: sane conversation about Indiana is the defending national champions in football? 364 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: What's the one thing that you still can't wrap your 365 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: brain around that this is actually happening. 366 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 5: Well, there's so many angles you could go with Rake. 367 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 4: You know, I will quote you know a man that 368 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 4: has had as a professor back in my undergrad days, 369 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 4: and I believe somebody you know as well, he has 370 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 4: you know, hired me to be an adjunct professor down 371 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 4: there seven years ago. You know, Gay is one of 372 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 4: the diehardest, a diehard all IU football fans that you know. 373 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 4: He has described old IU as it was always Lucy 374 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 4: pulling the football away like that's that's how it always was. 375 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: And something I brought up this morning on the show 376 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 4: is as we get in the championship weekend here for 377 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 4: the NFL, we've described the Chiefs in recent years is 378 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 4: they feel inevitable, like they're always going to make their 379 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 4: critical play. They're always gonna make the third down conversion. 380 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 4: Kelsey's gonna find that yellow line, They're gonna get the 381 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 4: big kind of the on defense that they need it, you. 382 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 5: Know, et cetera, et cetera. 383 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 4: And if you look at Monday night for Indiana and 384 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 4: really this whole season, they felt inevitable. 385 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 5: And I'm not just talking. 386 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 4: About like, yeah, you know, maybe a break or two, 387 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 4: but they also created ninety nine percent of that whether 388 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 4: it is with you know, fourth and five and fourth 389 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 4: and seven, and third and seven and third and five 390 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 4: all in the fourth quarter and they convert all of them. 391 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 4: You know, if you look at the block punt again, 392 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 4: I keep on going back to that play, that's a 393 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,719 Speaker 4: play where you know they had taken their they had 394 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 4: taken their you know, their putt team wasn't on the field. 395 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 4: They left their defense out there because it was so 396 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 4: fourth and one. That's the play you see a lot 397 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 4: of teams, you know, don't even really try to go 398 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 4: after the punter in that situation, and the Kal Kamara 399 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 4: goes after the punter and you know, makes a great, 400 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 4: great play and obviously that's one of the plays of 401 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: the game. Obviously, the call to go for it on 402 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 4: fourth and five, and instead of Minosa tripping over Pat 403 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 4: Coogan to make the Lucy analogy, you know, he finds 404 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 4: his way into the end zone. So, you know, I 405 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 4: would just say for a program that is often been 406 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: the butt of jokes, and when those moments have a 407 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 4: risen of like, oh my gosh, here we go, we 408 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 4: can pull off this big upset, it's just wait, I 409 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 4: know how it's going to end. I don't need to 410 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 4: watch it. It was the reverse of an all season. 411 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: Long one of the things that again, we all view 412 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: all elements of life through the prism of our own experience. 413 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: I was a radio program director of two different players, right, 414 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: two different to so I think about almost the what now, 415 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: not just for Indiana as a program, but how we 416 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 1: cover Indiana as a program. You have now been in 417 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: the sports content business in this market for the last 418 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: fourteen years. What sort of seat at the table does 419 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: Indiana football have now like in comparison to the Colts, 420 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: the Pacers, i U Basketball, et cetera. 421 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's another really good question. 422 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 4: I I you know, I'm just going off of you know, numbers, 423 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 4: you know after wins you know here or this playoff 424 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 4: run I mean, you know, the Monday after a Colts 425 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 4: game I think is still king in this town. I'm 426 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: just strictly going off of, you know, numbers that we 427 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 4: would have to kind of back that up, you know. 428 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 4: I I that Pacer playoff run, you know, certainly challenge 429 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 4: some of that, and you know, I would say the 430 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 4: Indiana run. 431 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 5: Would be right there. 432 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 4: So I'm sure it will. It will continue to push 433 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 4: and anytime you're a consistent winner, you're going to be there, 434 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 4: you know, you say, fourteen years, you know, when I'm done, 435 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 4: you know, IU basketball talking the radio, you know, over 436 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 4: that time, or you know much more here in the 437 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 4: last five or six years, they obviously haven't won, or 438 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 4: at least at the level that you know Indiana fans 439 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 4: has won. 440 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 5: So I don't think that's maybe been as the. 441 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 4: Front and center as it could be if they were. 442 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 4: But yeah, I would you know, I think i U 443 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 4: football is, especially under such a figure that is Kurt Signetty, 444 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 4: I would think that they will continue to be right 445 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 4: up there with the professional sports, which you know, again 446 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 4: in a professional sports market, I mean we are not Louisville. 447 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 5: We are not you know, we're the. 448 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 4: SEC towns where it's college sports. You know, twenty four 449 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 4: to seven, that's a lot. I mean the NFL, I mean, 450 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 4: just look at the ratings that Broncos Bills got over 451 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 4: the over the weekend. I mean, it's just it's insane 452 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 4: how it is. Granted, you know, certainly look at the 453 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: ratings that in the end in Miami drow on Monday night. 454 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 4: So I would say it is close, but it's it's 455 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 4: probably always going to be pro sports. 456 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 3: All right. 457 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: Since you talked NFL, let's move into kind of everything else. 458 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: What is your give a darn factor about the two 459 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: games on Sunday. 460 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not as high as it normally is. I 461 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 4: would say, you know, certainly Ram Seahawks is the better game. 462 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 4: And you know, I love watching Matthew Stafford and Sean 463 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 4: mcsay and that team, you know, play, So I am. 464 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 5: Looking forward to that. 465 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: You know. 466 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 4: The Jared Stidham story is just kind of a I 467 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 4: mean it's just a very unique one. I mean, you 468 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 4: don't get a lot of that type of you know, 469 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 4: here's your quarterback for the you know, AFC Championship game. 470 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 4: Where you have a historic defense and you know they're 471 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 4: like the biggest home underdog. I believe the championship weekend, 472 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 4: and I mean that there is kind of a Cinderella 473 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 4: field to it, and for some reason, I don't know, 474 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 4: I'd have to go back to like Nick Foles's you 475 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 4: know history, but like Folds, you know, he started games 476 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 4: late in that sea and once Carson went score a 477 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 4: yell and you know the phone mixed injury happening so 478 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 4: late in the game as well. 479 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 5: So I do think that is just kind of a 480 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 5: cool story. 481 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 4: But you know, I think with the NFL, we don't 482 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 4: like the NFL so much for like Cinderella necessarily, you know, 483 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 4: we just like it more for the parody of it. So, 484 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 4: you know, given our news cycle over the last week break, 485 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 4: and it is very understandably taken a backseat. 486 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 5: To it all. I think if Buffalo is still. 487 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 4: Playing, that storyline to me is always, you know, really cool, 488 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 4: just because of their fandom and the small market and 489 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 4: all the near misses. 490 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 5: So we obviously don't have that. 491 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 4: But you know, talk to me when there's six inches 492 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 4: now outside my house and Sunday I'll. 493 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: Be locked in, I will reveal my age. 494 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: When I think of quarterbacks to make the super Bowl 495 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: in backup fashion, I still think of Jeff Hosteler first 496 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: before I think of Nick Foles. You may not because 497 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: you're a young pup compared to me, but Hostetler is 498 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: still the guy that I think because Foles, I thought, 499 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: was so much more of a known commodity than Hosteler 500 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: would have been when he let the Giants super Bowl 501 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: win in super Bowl twenty five. 502 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, but let's think about that, Rachel. 503 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 4: So the super Bowl twenty five, you know, Foles obviously 504 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 4: was whatever a handful of years ago. 505 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 5: I mean, world, what super Bowl sixty? 506 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 2: I think he was fifty two? Does that sound right ish? 507 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 6: Yeah? 508 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 5: Okay, so yeah, it was even you know, longer than that. 509 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 4: I mean, that's kind of wild. One quarterback in the 510 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 4: last thirty five years, and you know, I get it, 511 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 4: it is quarterback, but you would think at some point 512 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 4: you would have found, you know, a timers, even if 513 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 4: the defense just does all the heavy lifting to get 514 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 4: you there, because I mean, you have to win one game. Now, 515 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 4: it's a big game, but we see backup quarterbacks, you know, 516 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 4: win games in the NFL. And again, he's got the 517 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 4: historic you know, defense, But granted, New England's played really well. 518 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 4: And I think that's probably the other thought I've had 519 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 4: this week of just I can't imagine being a Titans 520 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 4: fan of thinking why did we fire Mike Rable Again? 521 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 5: Walk me through all of them? They were the one 522 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 5: seed with Ryan Tannahill, you. 523 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: Know, like I mean that was remarked, and I get 524 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 4: Derek Henry's doing, you know, Derrick Henry, Thanks, but still 525 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 4: that one is beyond head scratching to me. 526 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: Since you referenced Buffalo, I don't know what your schedule 527 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: has been like since signing off at ten o'clock. Do 528 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: you see who's getting an interview for the head coaching 529 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: job in Buffalo? 530 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 6: I did? I did? 531 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 5: Uncle Phil? 532 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 4: Yes, I did see that. And did I see Josh 533 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 4: Allen is in sitting in on all these interviews as well? 534 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 4: I find that to be interesting. 535 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: Well, Lamar Jackson is kind of getting or kind of 536 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: had that in Baltimore to a certain degree. It doesn't 537 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: surprise me on Josh Allen Listen, I could see Philip 538 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: Rivers being an NFL head coach? Is he an NFL 539 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: head coach without having ever been an NFL assistant? 540 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 4: First well, and the one thing too is just the 541 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 4: family dynamic for correctors and not to go over the 542 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 4: Rivers family tree. But you know, he's got the son 543 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 4: that'll be a senior in high school this coming year, 544 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 4: and the I believe there's three sons. I believe of 545 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 4: the ten and seven girls, three boys. One of the 546 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 4: other boys will be a freshman. And I think Phillip 547 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 4: has already said depth chart is out. 548 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 5: He's a backup. So you know, if you're Philip Rivers 549 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 5: and you know clearly he's had this goal to coach 550 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 5: his sons. 551 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 4: Allah I believe his father did to him, then I 552 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 4: would assume he would look at that as, oh my gosh. 553 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 5: The senior year of high school. 554 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 4: And again Saint Michael's, I'm pretty sure they've had like 555 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 4: kind of near misses in the in their state. You know, 556 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 4: championship runs here in recent years. You know, why not 557 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 4: coach Gunner the oldest the senior year, then coach the 558 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 4: second son, and then you know, the NFL maybe becomes 559 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 4: a little bit more realistic at that point. I think 560 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 4: about half of the ten kids that are out of 561 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 4: the house, they're off of college, et cetera, et cetera. 562 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 4: You know, maybe you feel a little bit more inclined, 563 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,239 Speaker 4: and you know, move the whole family over to up 564 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 4: to Western New York. Seems like quite the undertaking here. 565 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 4: So I'm fascinated by it. It's super entertaining. I think Buffalo, 566 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 4: no matter who they hire, will be really entertaining, just 567 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 4: because Sean McDermott has quite the track record of six 568 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 4: straight years of the playoff win. 569 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 5: I think they're only one. 570 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 4: Of four teams to have done that in NFL history. 571 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 4: But yeah, I know part of me thinks Rivers is 572 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 4: just doing this for Intel, but who knows. 573 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 5: He definitely didn't downplay it. I mean, Rake, you were 574 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 5: there late in the season. 575 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 4: I mean when he was asked those questions, he definitely 576 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 4: did not like sweep it under the rug. 577 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 5: He expressed some interest. 578 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: I have all the respect in the world, and I 579 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: generally think that Philip truly wants to coach his kids 580 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: and you and I I think even had an off 581 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: air conversation about all right, let's talk about his kids, 582 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: boys versus the girls, and how big of a gap 583 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: there is. Kind of after these two get through high school, 584 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: maybe four years down the road he becomes a NFL 585 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: quarterback coach or an offensive coordinator. 586 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 2: That's all well and good. 587 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: And I know that Philip played an air where he 588 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: made a good amount of money in the National Football League. 589 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: Have you seen what they're paying NFL head coaches these days? 590 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: And he and the missus have a lot of mouths 591 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: to feed. There is something to be said about that 592 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: end of the conversation too, KB. 593 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, and again I don't know about it. Health insurance. 594 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 5: You know that that that kicked in with him coming 595 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 5: back to break and everything. 596 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 4: So uh yeah, you know again, part of me thought, 597 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 4: you know, with this rumor, you know, I guess this 598 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 4: is the first team he's officially interviewed. 599 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 5: With, now that I think about it. 600 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 4: But you know, when this was ass you know, at 601 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 4: the end of the season, I still kind of came 602 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 4: back to the Okay, again, Gunner is a very high 603 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 4: level quarterback going to be a senior, and the other 604 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 4: son is going to be a freshman. I just figured, Okay, 605 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 4: we'll table this conversation for four years from now. But 606 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 4: now it seems a little realer. 607 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that Kevin Bowen joining us on the 608 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: Java House. Peel and poor guest line it's Greg reiks 609 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: run for Jay Query on ninety three five and one 610 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: oh seven five of the Fan Again, You're gonna try 611 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: to talk as much IU football over the next few 612 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: weeks as possible. That is the iron that is hottest 613 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: in the fire right now. What are you looking forward 614 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: to talking most once now that we are past the 615 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: afterglow of this national championship? 616 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 5: You know, I, I guess are are you saying sell 617 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 5: the IU story? 618 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: Correct? 619 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: In other words, if I took you out of the mix, 620 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: what are the things that you're actually looking forward to 621 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: talking about on the morning show? 622 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 5: Got it? 623 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 4: You know, obviously a week from Thursday is the NBA 624 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 4: trade deadline, and you know, as we sit here right now, 625 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 4: you know, what they do over the next ten to 626 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 4: twelve days you could have massive implications on what the 627 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: new era of Tyrees Halliburn looks like around him. So 628 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 4: I think that is a big storyline. You know, we're 629 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 4: now less than a month away, as crazy as sounds, 630 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 4: after that, combine news from you know that becoming a 631 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 4: little bit more front burner, and you know what it 632 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 4: looks like for Daniel Jones, what it looks like for 633 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 4: Alex Pearce. 634 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 5: You know, I think those are interesting conversations. 635 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 4: Is well, we're about a month and a half away 636 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 4: from free agency, and then you know, well, certainly and 637 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 4: Saturday is a big game up there in Mackie. I mean, 638 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: we're now going to get a little bit more front 639 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,959 Speaker 4: center with Purdue and that run and you know that story, 640 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,239 Speaker 4: Rake and you know by anybody, but that story in 641 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 4: many many ways can be as joyous for that fan 642 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 4: base as the one that we just saw in Bloomington. 643 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 5: And honestly, it's. 644 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 4: A little bit of a different of all the close calls, 645 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 4: all of the hopes and dreams of you know, the 646 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 4: Kadi era and you know Humbles a cl and Hoskin 647 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 4: Herd and you know making it to the title game. 648 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 4: And you know, when you think about it, you know, 649 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 4: from a football program, you know, outside of Freezer Morales, 650 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 4: you know, I don't know if there have been you know, 651 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 4: maybe a ton of those types of moments there. Obviously 652 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 4: they've had a nice run in football during the Tiller years, 653 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 4: but still nothing to what a March into April run, 654 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 4: albeit you know, throwing the cherry on top of your 655 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 4: hometown could be for them, particularly in a day and 656 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 4: age of college basketball where the dominant storyline is about 657 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 4: the dude who you know played professional basketball is now 658 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 4: going back to Alabama and the person that signed off 659 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 4: on that as an Alabama booster. Like you know, it's 660 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 4: just it's so crazy, and here is this p new 661 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 4: team with you know, a core of you know, certainly 662 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 4: the Indiana kids and several of the Indiana kids who 663 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 4: are pretty under recruited as well. So I think that 664 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 4: storyline obviously will become you know, bigger and bigger as 665 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 4: you know, a month of March is as closer. 666 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk Colts. 667 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: What is the next domino to fall event to happen 668 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: on the coltsteinline. 669 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 4: Well, I would say just the coaching cycle to clear up. 670 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 4: You know again, Anna Rumo did interview in Buffalo, so 671 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 4: you know that to get through Jim Bob Cooter interviewed 672 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 4: their offense coordinator with the Eagles for that OC job. 673 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 4: So you know, once that is done, and typically that's 674 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 4: right around the Super Bowl, then again. 675 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 5: We're less than a month away from the combine. 676 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 4: I believe a franchise tag window opens up in around 677 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 4: a month. 678 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 5: That's a two week window. 679 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 4: Alex Pierce to me, seems like a more likely candidate 680 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 4: than anybody on the roster, including Daniel Jones. 681 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 5: So do they use that? 682 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 4: Is it similar to Michael Pittman Junior a couple of 683 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 4: years ago where they use it, but then they get 684 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 4: the long term deal done before free agency starts. So 685 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 4: I think that's kind of where we're at. You know, 686 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 4: this time last year, Ana Rouma had just been hired. 687 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 4: You know, it's not like we're going through one of 688 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 4: those coordinator searches as of now. You know, we obviously 689 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 4: could here, but that's probably the biggest thing. 690 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 5: I mean, and then ideal Colts World, if you were 691 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 5: Shane Stike. 692 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 4: And I mean, nothing too pressing over the next couple 693 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 4: of weeks, assuming that your staff's still intact. I guess 694 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 4: they do need to hire a defensive line coach. For 695 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 4: those that missed that story. Their D line coach Charlie Partridge, 696 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 4: longtime college coach, he went to Notre Dame. He's down 697 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 4: there D line coach there. So the Colt student need 698 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 4: to hire that. And you know, that is a position 699 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 4: group that I think you could make the case is underwhelmed, 700 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 4: you know, maybe more than any considering the resources into it. 701 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 4: I'd argue it's more personnel based and coaching base, but 702 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 4: still that would be something they need to get. 703 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 6: Done in AF season. 704 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: The sundergraming to put you on the spot before I 705 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: let you go. We've talked about Michael Pittman Junior's contract 706 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: and how Michael is very well liked by the fan base, 707 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: by the locker room production slipped a little bit this year. 708 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: Is he a twenty nine million dollar player? No, And 709 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: the way his contract is structured and the amount of 710 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: salary cap money would free up to cut him, that 711 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: seems like a done deal that he won't be back 712 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: next year or he might be on a restructured deal. 713 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: Who else is a candidate to be waived by to 714 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: a little early because it might save the Colts more 715 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: money than what that person would actually produce playing for them. 716 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, Pittman is is certainly in top that list. 717 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 4: The other two I keep on coming back to the 718 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 4: future for a r Franklin and Kenny more than second. 719 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 4: Franklin has two years less than a deal, but there's 720 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 4: an out this offseason that's pretty cheap from a dead cahit. 721 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 4: And then Kenny, you know, I don't know if to 722 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 4: fit with a rumo his idea. It just seemed like 723 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 4: we didn't get the typical Kenny playmaking year sure that 724 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 4: he that he's had now granted, I mean depth a 725 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 4: linebacker and corner are not stocked. You know, I was 726 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 4: going to make stock like the shelves of the grocery 727 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,479 Speaker 4: analogy right now, but I don't think. 728 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: The shell Yeah, they're pretty bare too right now. 729 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, although shot it to the safe way at fifty 730 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: six Illinois, it was in fine form at seven fifteen am. 731 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 5: There you go. 732 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 4: You and I shot there quite a lot at that 733 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 4: safeway there from Illinois. So you know, I think you 734 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 4: can make the case for restructures there. But you know, 735 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 4: outright cutting of either player would leave quite the void. 736 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 5: Now. 737 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 4: You know, some might say, hey, Zai or you just 738 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 4: need to you know, try and you know, go upgrade there. 739 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 4: And you know again at corner you saw the Shaveri's war. 740 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 4: I s probably throw that in there as well. 741 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 3: Rake. 742 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 4: In terms of the offseason items, you know, I would 743 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 4: assume by the combine, the Colts will have an answer 744 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 4: on Shaverio's war playing football next year. 745 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 5: I think he kind of mentioned he owes it to. 746 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 4: The team to make a decision there, So that's probably 747 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 4: another news item. You know, they could wiggle around with 748 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 4: some extensions for guys quin Nelson, you know, maybe even 749 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,479 Speaker 4: Buckner or Grover Stewart. That can open up a little 750 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 4: bit of cap space, which I do think it's really necessary. 751 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 4: When you start to crunch the numbers, their cap space 752 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 4: can get pretty tight pretty quick. So yeah, those other two. 753 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 4: I would go with Michael Pittman Jr. And I would 754 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 4: go with Kenny Moore's guys. I'm a little bit in 755 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 4: question or excuse me, Piven first, Franklin been Kenny Moore 756 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 4: as guys. I'm a little bit in question about just 757 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 4: exactly what it looks like financially for them moving forward? 758 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: All right, one for the better Nerdery, What sort of 759 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: cap relief would the Colts get if Mooney says, hey, 760 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm walking away, Does that wipe everything away from the 761 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: salary cap standpoint? Does it fast forward everything to this year? 762 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: How exactly do the numbers work in that scenario? 763 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I need to double check it. I'm pretty sure 764 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 4: it wipes away virtually all of it. You know, we 765 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 4: haven't had I mean, I guess block is quite the one, 766 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 4: but of course, you know, Jim Ersay decided to send 767 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 4: him packing with a nice money in that back pocket. 768 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 4: So that is one that I would have to look 769 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 4: up because you know, he has what two years left 770 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 4: I believe in that deal. I think it was a 771 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 4: three year contract originally, so uh yeah. And you know, 772 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 4: I have no idea how that all that would play out, 773 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 4: but I think money would be the first to tell 774 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 4: you. You know, he's done pretty good for himself from an 775 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 4: NFL career standpoint, which I think is a factor at all. Yes, 776 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 4: the form n drafted free agent. He won a Super 777 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 4: Bowl with the Chiefs, made a Super Bowl with the 778 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 4: forty nine ers. He is on his third contract. He's 779 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 4: made great money, you know. So that's something that you 780 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 4: know is an impact or decision here or a factor 781 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 4: I should say in his decision. 782 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 2: Thanks for the time, my friend. 783 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 3: Figure. 784 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 2: I'll see at some point next week. 785 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: I know I will on Tuesday afternoon, Thanks buddy. 786 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 5: Tuesday at two thirty, I'll be on the sidewalk waiting 787 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 5: for you. 788 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, Sir Kevin Bowen. Our annual Buddy trip to 789 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: South Bend. It's been mixed results for the Irish when 790 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: me have made the trip. Last year a win against 791 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: Boston College when the temperature was about the same as 792 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 1: it is now, like freakishly cold the year before, an 793 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: empty campus on Christmas Break and the Citadel got the 794 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: win on the Fighting Irish KB and I. I'm sure 795 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: we'll document this next week on Tuesday and then again 796 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: Friday on the Morning Show. All guests appear on the 797 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: Java House Peel and Poor Guest Line. Use code Jake 798 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 1: twenty five. That's Jake two five for twenty five percent 799 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: off your order, and check out the Jake Query Bundle 800 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: by searching Jake at Java house dot com. A song 801 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: that this gentleman heard probably had nauseum for the last 802 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: several years as the bracket expert for CBS Sports. 803 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 2: Maybe this is the song. 804 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: That he heard when he finally got his new RV 805 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: to leave Owensboro, Kentucky, a couple of weeks ago. 806 00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 2: I'll let him explain. 807 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: Jerry Paul Well, Palm Brackets dot Com joins us on 808 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: the Java House Peel and Poor Guest Line, still working 809 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: them brackets, but also literally driving across America as we speak. 810 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 2: How are you, my friend? 811 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 7: Well, I guess I'm in pretty good shape because we 812 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 7: are currently living in Montgomery Alabama a couple of weeks, 813 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 7: and we're south of the ice storm. True, like the 814 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 7: northern part of the state may not do as well, 815 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 7: but we're far enough south that we've managed to avoid 816 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,240 Speaker 7: the ice storm. 817 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 6: So I guess that's good. 818 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 7: I was gonna say cold next week, but not, We're 819 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 7: not going to be scraping ice off the RV. 820 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: How has your used to be? The old staying was 821 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: one was wonder Indiana. You're literally wondering America other than 822 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: having like a breakdown of no one's world, Kentucky, how's 823 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: it going so far? 824 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, we just left, you know. The first time we 825 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,959 Speaker 7: left with the RV was the beginning of the month, 826 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 7: and we didn't get any farther than Evansville before we 827 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 7: had a abum. We spent three days there in Owensboro 828 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 7: and took a while to get the truck fixed. The 829 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 7: RV itself was fine, but the truck that we're pulling 830 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 7: it with was well, was being uncooperative for really about 831 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 7: the first week of this adventure. But it seems to 832 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 7: be okay. 833 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 3: Now. 834 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 7: We'll see when we hook it up and start rolling 835 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 7: again here another couple of weeks. 836 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: If nothing else, it gave you time to listen to 837 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: a friend of yours recommendation. How was the world's largest 838 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: barbecue buffet, the Moonlight Barbecue. 839 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that was lovely. Yeah that was great. It's 840 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 7: you know, I don't know. I'm not a big fan 841 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 7: of buffets because you never know what you're really going 842 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 7: to get. But everything was really good. I would go 843 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 7: back there in a minute. 844 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 2: Hight good to know. 845 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk brackets, shall we, and let's 846 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: work our way up the food shart, so to speak. 847 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,959 Speaker 1: When it comes to the state of Indiana. Has Notre 848 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: Dame because of their injuries and overall play, do they 849 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 1: merit conversation at this point? 850 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 6: Nope, not yet. 851 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 7: Maybe you know, they get healthy and they get better, 852 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 7: we can talk about them, but we're we're probably gonna 853 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 7: be getting weight in the season before that happens, if 854 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 7: it happens. 855 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: All right, So let's work our way up. Butler's picked 856 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: up a couple of wins. Where do Butler's chances look 857 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: like right now? 858 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 7: They need to do more. You can't rule them out. 859 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 7: I'd say they're in better shape than Notre Dame. But 860 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 7: Butler's got to the depth of quality in the Big 861 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 7: Yeast it's not like it is in other league. It's 862 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 7: only because it's smaller than the other major conferences. But 863 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 7: they have to take advantage of those opportunities when they 864 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 7: present themselves, and they don't really have a lot of 865 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 7: margin for error in terms of taking, you know, losses 866 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 7: that they shouldn't. 867 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 2: In your latest bracket, how many Big East teams do 868 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 2: you have? 869 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 6: Four? 870 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: Joy I was going to say three, So four is 871 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 1: actually encouraging sign because frankly, that gives Butler more chances 872 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: to win games teams that might be in the tournament. 873 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: All right, now, let's get to the Indiana Hoosiers. Where 874 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: do they stand at this point? Because they are starting 875 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: to play their way, not starting to they are playing 876 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: their way in the wrong direction. 877 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 2: Would you have them in the field today? 878 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 7: No, No, I don't have them in. They're not first 879 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 7: four out, They're not too far off that list. But no, 880 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 7: they've got some work to do, and in general, their 881 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 7: problem is just the lack of quality within you know, 882 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 7: their record's not. 883 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 6: Horrible or anything like that. 884 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 7: They just haven't found a way to beat the teams 885 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,760 Speaker 7: they need to beat to find themselves in the field. 886 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: Same question about Butler, how many Big ten teams, do 887 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 1: you have dancing. 888 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 2: As we speak? 889 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 6: I believe it's ten okay, And. 890 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: Again in super conferences you get more of that. And 891 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: again that's the thing with this Indiana team is that 892 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: again you know, the opportunities are there, they've just not 893 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: shown us anything in the last two three weeks that 894 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: tell us they're going to take advantage of set opportunities. 895 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, it's I mean, really the opportunities they had 896 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 7: a non conference play they didn't really take advantage of 897 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 7: particularly either. I mean, they're best win escapes me at 898 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 7: the moment, but it was not a team in the field, 899 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 7: so you know, yeah, I mean you need to be 900 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 7: able to show that you can be teams that are 901 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,959 Speaker 7: in the field, and the Big ten will give them 902 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 7: plenty of chances to do that, but they have to 903 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,479 Speaker 7: take advantage of them. 904 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: Paulmbrackets dot com is where you can find his work again. 905 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: Jerry Palm joining us here on the Java House, Peel 906 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: and Poor guest Line, Greg Rakestraw and for j Query 907 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: here on ninety three to five and one oh seven 908 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: five of the Fan. No such issue with your Boilers. 909 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 1: We know there will be dancing. They did just losing 910 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: against to UCLA one seed, two seed where they have 911 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 1: the Boilers right now, I have them. 912 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 3: As a two. 913 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 6: They were a two before the loss. 914 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 7: There's still a two, and that's due in part to 915 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 7: the fact that they, you know, built up a lot 916 00:42:54,760 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 7: of cushion, if you will, with their really strong noncompt 917 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 7: or to play UCOA is not. 918 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 6: A terrible team, They're a bubble team. 919 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 7: So there are worse losses than that on the road, 920 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 7: and we were out there for that. My wife and 921 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 7: I went out to see the LA doubleheader and that 922 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 7: was two good challenges for Purdue and really should have 923 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 7: won the second one, but a couple of uncharacteristic Braden 924 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 7: Smith turnovers late and you end up coming away with 925 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 7: a loss. 926 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: This is, I guess, maybe sadly of a metrics question, 927 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: but it's frankly more of an eyeball question than a 928 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 1: metrics question. But again, as a Boilermaker, which does not 929 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: affect Jerry's predictions, but he's a very proud Purdue alum. 930 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: What sort of seed do they need? In other words, 931 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,240 Speaker 1: what is the difference for Purdue between being a one seed, 932 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 1: a two seed, a three seed, et cetera. Because they 933 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: just have so much experience. 934 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think if they're a top three seed, what 935 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 7: do you afford Your first round game is usually so, 936 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 7: but that's basically the same as you with a different 937 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 7: number next to them, or your second game that is so, 938 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 7: you really want to be your two or three to 939 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 7: give yourself or no worse than that, to give yourself 940 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 7: a pretty good path to a Final four and Elite eight. 941 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: All right, so it produced not a one seed. Who 942 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: are your one seeds right now? 943 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:30,720 Speaker 7: The one seeds are Houston Duke, Arizona, but not Houston 944 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:35,240 Speaker 7: Arizona Duke. Gosh, why am I on a brain cramp? 945 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 6: It's awesome? I'm so sorry? 946 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 2: Okay, Arizona, Arizona Duke. Nebraska and Michigan. 947 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 6: Right, Nebraska, Michigan? Yous? Two Big ten teams? 948 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 3: Why am I drawing a blank on them? 949 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? 950 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 2: Because you would. 951 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: You would never say Nebraska before now always say about 952 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: Indiana football, were you'd say it about Nebraska. So their 953 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: record speaks for themselves. But in terms of the elements 954 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: of their sheet, their team sheet, what about Nebraska jumps 955 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: off the page at you. 956 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 6: Well, they've done well. 957 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 7: They did well in non conference play, but they played 958 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 7: a relatively poor non conference schedule easily the worst non 959 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,240 Speaker 7: conference schedule of anybody in the top sixteen of this bracket. 960 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 6: It's in the two hundreds. 961 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 7: So it took a while for them to climb up here. 962 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 7: But obviously they've been really good in conference play. The 963 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 7: win of Illinois, you know, really got everybody's attention. But 964 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 7: you know, they beat Michigan State at home. It's this 965 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 7: is just a remarkable story. I don't know, it's way 966 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 7: too early to say if they're the Indiana football of 967 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 7: this basketball season, but just as someone who's been around 968 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,280 Speaker 7: the Big Ten, you know, all my life, the thought 969 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 7: of Indiana football being a national champion in Nebraska basketball 970 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 7: threatening to be a number one seed at a culture 971 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,280 Speaker 7: shock to say the least. 972 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: The world is officially on its ear at this point 973 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: because of those two things. If I'm being before, I 974 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: lets you go, this is not an Indiana team, but 975 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 1: there does close as you can be a lot of 976 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: Indiana elements to it. You know, the the gap widens 977 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: further between power conference teams. There really isn't much of 978 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 1: a thing as a mid major anymore. You're either a 979 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: several bid league or you're a one bid league. Yet 980 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 1: maam of Ohio is twenty and zero going into the weekend. 981 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: How do you have them in your ratings? As of now? 982 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 7: They would not be an at large team, but they're 983 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 7: as about as high as you can be without being 984 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 7: among the at large teams in the brackets. So they're like, 985 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 7: that's a little twelve seed, eleven seed, twelve seeds thereabouts. 986 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: And because of the fact that it's nothing but league 987 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: games left, like for let's let's say they run the 988 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: table and they lose in the MAC Tournament, would they 989 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,919 Speaker 1: be in the at large conversation or no, matter what 990 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 1: they do, is everything about what happens in Cleveland and 991 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 1: March for them. 992 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,879 Speaker 7: It's probably everything that happens for them. 993 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 6: It's going to happen in Cleveland. 994 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 7: It's I don't know, it's it's gonna be really hard 995 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 7: if they're oh, I don't know, we'll say thirty three 996 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 7: and one or whatever that number ends up being. Uh, 997 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 7: but they're not going to have a win over a 998 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 7: team that's anywhere near the bracket except for the team 999 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 7: that wins their league in the MAC. Sure you know 1000 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 7: that's that They're not going to have an at large 1001 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 7: quality win. They're not going to have anything close to 1002 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 7: an at large quality win, and boy, the committee have 1003 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 7: a lot to talk about if that unfortunate uh situation happens. 1004 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 1: Palm brackets dot com is where you can find him 1005 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 1: or an RV park near you as he is wondering 1006 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: the globe and as he states, south of the ice storm, 1007 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: which means he's significantly south of here. Thanks for the time, 1008 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 1: My friend will catch up real soon, all right, Stay 1009 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: safe up there. You got the buddy Jerry Palm again 1010 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,760 Speaker 1: of palmbrackets dot com.