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Speaker 1: The Hammer Nigel Show. My name is Nigel. Jerry Lopez

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Speaker 1: filling in for Hammer. We'll go to the hotline and

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Speaker 1: bring on. Tony Kennett hosted the Tony Kinney Cast right

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Speaker 1: after this show night seven o'clock on aty three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: Also investigative reporter for Daily Signal. Any number of avenues

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Speaker 1: we could go down here, Tony. But the big news

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Speaker 1: this week is that Governor Brown did it. He pulled

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Speaker 1: the trigger called the special session. We're going to get

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Speaker 1: a vote on redistricting year. Overall thoughts and analysis, there's

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Speaker 1: tons of different angles and questions I have about this.

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Speaker 1: But what do you think?

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Speaker 2: First of all, it's really weird as an Indiana Republican,

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Speaker 2: like an Indiana Conservative, to see my party acting like

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Speaker 2: a competitive Republican party. It's kind of scary, Like is

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Speaker 2: this a little weird for you guys? It's like we're

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Speaker 2: acting like we actually want to win something for once.

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Speaker 2: It's really bizarre.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is is the goal of this redistricting plan?

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Speaker 1: First of all, it's it's a broader goal of Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: and he's worried about the midterms, I think, and we

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Speaker 1: can get to that in a few minutes. But I

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Speaker 1: think the goal is Republican domination, is it not?

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Speaker 2: So? First of all, the goal of redistricting is actually

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Speaker 2: to break the state up into districts that are culturally cohesive,

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Speaker 2: economically cohesive. Right now, the Indiana sixth Congressional that I

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Speaker 2: am in wraps around the side of the state. It's goofy.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense. Why is Indianapolis treated as

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Speaker 2: some kind of a block You and I know the

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Speaker 2: answer to that. Because there was this argument that, well,

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Speaker 2: people in Indianapolis, I believe that there needs to be

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Speaker 2: a black dominated voter district, so we just round them

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Speaker 2: all up in Indianapolis. Yeah, that's kind of gross. No,

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Speaker 2: the goal of redistricting should be to break the state

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Speaker 2: up into cultural and economic sections that make sense. And yes,

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Speaker 2: when you break the state up that way, yeah, it

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Speaker 2: ends up being Republican dominated. It's not supposed to be

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Speaker 2: a while Farney persona of the voters in Indiana our Democrats.

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Speaker 2: So therefore far out of the nine destretschd BA Democrat.

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Speaker 2: But that's not how that works. That's like how a

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Speaker 3: No, it's nice to finally see conservatives kind of go

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Speaker 3: on offense this adding these Now, granted we're only going

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Speaker 3: to add hopefully we add two states like Texas will

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Speaker 3: add more. Other states may add a lot more than us.

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Speaker 3: But at least we're trying to fight against the woke ideology,

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Speaker 3: the DEI, all that stuff that's.

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Speaker 2: At the national level.

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Speaker 3: We're actually adding more fighters on our side.

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Speaker 2: And I forget just the idea of fighting the idea

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Speaker 2: that the status quo is somehow some type of idol

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Speaker 2: I need to bend over for is insulting that some

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Speaker 2: establishment goober who's worked for an insurance firm half his

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Speaker 2: life and was in state government a few years gets

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Speaker 2: to tell me that, well, he's doing fine, so I

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Speaker 2: need to get over it, because after all, he made

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Speaker 2: it okay. So why am I trying to tip things over?

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I am not taking the advice of some

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Speaker 2: idiot from halfaway strategies in Chicago who's only consistent giving

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Speaker 2: to the political system, has been losing elections over the

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Speaker 2: last ten years. Get bent cry about it. Some of

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Speaker 2: us have work to do.

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Speaker 1: Tony, what is Governor Braun's exposure in all this? Cause

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Speaker 1: a special session gets through the House right now, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like Rod brace centa pro tem, saying they don't

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Speaker 1: have the votes. What happens if this doesn't make it through?

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Speaker 1: What does this make Braun look like?

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Speaker 2: That's kind of a separate question. So as far as

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Speaker 2: Braun is concerned, look, Governor Abbott of Texas called like

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Speaker 2: five or six different special sessions to get school choice

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Speaker 2: who wanted to hide behind this caucus of oh, I'm

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Speaker 2: and then they would get behind closed doors and say

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Speaker 2: screw that. I don't care if it's a conservative policy,

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Speaker 2: I'm not voting for it. The teachers' union said they'd

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Speaker 2: Braun here is an opportunity to do what Indiana governors

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Speaker 2: There's a classic Midwestern Republican governor, which is just the

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Speaker 2: to do, free markets, and I'm going to sit back

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Speaker 2: and do nothing. That age has passed, the Cold War one.

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Speaker 2: We're glad we want it now, it's coming out to

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Speaker 2: do the work. You got to actually get the legislators moving.

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Speaker 2: That's Braun's responsibility. He actually seems like he's ready to

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Speaker 2: do it. So I say, all right, fine, if Kyle

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Speaker 1: We're speaking with Tony Tony Kennitt, cast and investigative reporter

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Speaker 1: for a daily signal. Just one more thing on this

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Speaker 1: special session. Let me ask you this way. There's no way.

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Speaker 1: In other words, Governor Braun is calling a special session

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Speaker 1: if he knows that he doesn't have the votes in

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Speaker 1: the Senate. Am I accurate there?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Let's say, let's let's paint the worst.

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Speaker 2: Let's paint the worst scenario. Let's say he gets in,

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Speaker 2: they throw the vote. There's four there's four votes that

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Speaker 2: were needed. We didn't meet that's threshold. And now we

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Speaker 2: go back to the drawing board. Well, now, Governor Braun

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Speaker 2: has a responsibility. The Indiana Republican Party has a responsibility

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Speaker 2: to find and I'm again the reason I brought up

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Speaker 2: State Senator Kyle Walker I know him, is that he's

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Speaker 2: against redistricting. So Now what I want to hear is

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Speaker 2: I want to see Channel eight, in Channel fifty nine

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Speaker 2: in WIBC and WFY. How you can come to this kid.

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Speaker 2: You know, WFY doesn't do any real journalism, or the

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Speaker 2: State Capitol Chronicle if it wasn't run by a you know,

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Speaker 2: lame lesbian circus, then actually you would see some real

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Speaker 2: journalism and say, Okay, Kyle Walker, explain why you don't

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Speaker 2: think redistricting is fair. I want to see Kyle Walker

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Speaker 2: tell me while the racist piece of human trash that

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Speaker 2: to his broad area, up to his ancestors legacy, that

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Speaker 2: What's the argument against that? Well, lukewarm Republican would replace him. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's not better to you. What in the world is

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Speaker 2: wrong with people? I want to see the state senators

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Speaker 2: that are voting against it. I want to see them

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Speaker 2: answer for it does make some responsibility?

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Speaker 1: Okay, does this move the need? Like? Will voters vote

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Speaker 1: them out if they don't vote for it? Is that

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Speaker 1: what we have seen? Go ahead?

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Speaker 2: No, Just to answer your question right up, that's an

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Speaker 2: easy one. In Texas in Nevada, in the Republican caucuses

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Speaker 2: in California, over in Ohio next door when this has happened, Yes,

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Speaker 2: those senators get kicked out. Wow, when you raise the bar,

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Speaker 2: usually voters hit their senators with it. That's the tale

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Speaker 1: And let's be honest with everybody here in the room.

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Speaker 1: Was this was at the behest of Donald Trump? Was

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Speaker 1: it not? I mean, this was on anybody's radar here

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Speaker 1: in the Hoosier State. Was it redistricting? This was? This

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Speaker 1: was Jdvan's visiting the state twice, fellow Indiana Republicans going

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Speaker 1: to Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be selfish here and say yes and

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Speaker 2: so yes, it is absolutely at the best of the

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Speaker 2: Republican National Committee. I'll be selfish, heur and say I

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Speaker 2: have been complaining about how my congressional district is mapped

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Speaker 2: for a very very long time. During my West Point

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Speaker 2: and that's something that I've always kind of complained about.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those things.

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Speaker 1: Talk about what you're seeing from the Democrats as a party.

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Speaker 1: Are they starting to panic now that this is day

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Speaker 1: twenty nine. I believe it started October first, the shutdown

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Speaker 1: and SNAP benefits are going away November first. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to play some audio here of a very

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Speaker 1: rational woman who is talking about the SNAP benefits going

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Speaker 4: I just want to Cumbrow Fastist to make this video

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Speaker 4: just to make something very very clear to the white man.

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Speaker 4: Black Americans do not care about your government shut down.

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Speaker 4: So you can sit back and you can mock, you

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Speaker 4: can laugh, and you can think that you're about to

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Speaker 4: starve us to death. But I'm here to let you

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Speaker 4: know that we are going to eat regardless, even if

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Speaker 4: we have to hunt you animals down and roast and

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Speaker 4: eat you the delectable crackers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so well, obviously she's rational human being here. But

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Speaker 1: what are we dealing here with the Democrats. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't want the government. I don't want people to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean absolutely, there's a few things that can

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Speaker 2: be true at once. Here. At number one, we're the

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Speaker 2: gonna make that clear right here. I don't care if

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Speaker 2: So that's number one. Number two, Yeah, the Democrats have

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Speaker 2: This is our only leverage. We played that last night

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Speaker 2: a huge montage of Democrats from Arizona to Vermont, from

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Speaker 2: Andre Carson in Indiana. Making the cases is their only

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Speaker 2: leverage they have to hurt people. Okay, well, those chickens

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Speaker 2: are now coming home to roost and I'm sorry, but

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Speaker 2: you can't buy that chicken with an EBT card.

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Speaker 3: Don't know if you guys saw the breaking news, it

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Speaker 3: was Bill Limb is actually going to donate like two

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Speaker 3: hundred million dollars to help people on snack.

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Speaker 1: Just kidding.

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Speaker 3: They don't help any minorities.

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Speaker 2: They don't help anybody them.

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Speaker 1: Have you guys seen you Jerry, Have anybody seen like

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Speaker 1: the Charlie Kirk costumes for Halloween? Like I saw this

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Speaker 1: one lady had a white shirt with blood all over

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Speaker 1: it and freedom spelled backwards. You of course saw during

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Speaker 1: the No King's rally that woman that was kind of

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Speaker 1: pointing to her neck to a pro Trump MAGA protester.

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Speaker 1: I believe Tony Kenned, if you do, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I think she was a teacher.

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Speaker 3: Teacher.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, oh, you mean you mean the people with

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Speaker 1: What is it with this culture of people that are

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Speaker 1: celebrating the death of anybody much less like I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: play a piece of audio here. This is liberal podcaster

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Welch. I never heard of her. Apparently she's pretty

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Speaker 1: popular though it gets lots.

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Speaker 2: Of not as popular as our ratings. But please play

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Speaker 2: the clips.

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Speaker 1: She was suggesting the democratic establishment needs to start getting

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Speaker 1: on board with wanting conservatives dead or else far leftists

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Speaker 1: will come after you in the same way they came

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Speaker 1: after Maga. Here she is, and that she plays a

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Speaker 1: I just.

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Speaker 4: Want the cumbrol fastist to make this video, just to

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Speaker 4: make something.

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Speaker 5: Finally, if you think the Zorn thing is happening just

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Speaker 5: in New York and you think people are waking up

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Speaker 5: only in New York City, you're mistaken. Look at this

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Speaker 5: clip of a wine mom at the No King's March play.

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Speaker 2: The clip bird's name was Charlie Kirkleam. Yeah, him is horrible.

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Speaker 1: Horrible, is horrible?

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Speaker 4: Yes, somebody's not here. You're glad he's dead. Yes, why

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Speaker 4: would you say something like that?

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Speaker 3: Master?

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Speaker 2: He was horrible on the campuses.

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Speaker 1: Just ugliness, tony, just pure sheer evil. What's going on there?

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Speaker 2: Those would be depressed liberal white women, the exact same

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Speaker 2: ones in suburbs around Indianapolis who sit there and gnaw

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Speaker 2: on their knuckles and they complain because they have nothing

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Speaker 2: in their lives that gives them any joy at all.

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Speaker 2: Their families despise them if they have any They're not

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Speaker 2: a part of a local church, they're not a part

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Speaker 2: of any community. All they have is their social activism.

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Speaker 2: And they're bitter, nasty, angry old women who ran on

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Speaker 2: the Jezebel Jennifer McCormick tick it last time, the exact

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Speaker 2: same ones. She's one of them. They are the every

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Speaker 2: single old, bitter white woman. Looks the exact same, they

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Speaker 2: act the exact same, and they think that their political activism,

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Speaker 2: no matter how filthy and inhuman it is, will bring

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Speaker 2: them purpose as all of a sudden, that's going to

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Speaker 2: make their husband loves them again, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: and that's going to make up for the fact that

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Speaker 2: their students and their coworkers don't respect them. Well, you

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Speaker 2: know what we see for who you are, we're not impressed.

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Speaker 2: And also you smell disgusting.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, we gotta cut it short, right there,

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Speaker 1: Tony Kinnnittts catch him tonight seven o'clock on the Tony

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Speaker 1: Kinnittt Cast. Fire is always my friend.

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Speaker 2: Have a good week, thanks guys.

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