1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Line from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today. Listen, you know you've launched as a 3 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: parent when you don't have to subsidize your kids. I mean, 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: that's always a good sign of this. And because of that, 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: when when my older one calls me because they're having 6 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: problems figuring out what to put on their taxes and 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: they're doing just the standard ten forty easy, I don't 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: mind having to sit on the phone and answering questions 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: about this and noodling this through. Why because I'm not 10 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: gonna have to pay any money and I'm not paying 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: any money for them anyway, everybody. I'm Andrew Langer in 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: for Tony Katz Today on Tony Katz Today. Got to 13 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: be joined in a little bit by Tim Graham. He 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: is the editor of NewsBusters, the Media Research Center. We're 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: going to talk about what happens if you have a 16 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: war and it's not a successful war and it's not 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: being accurately reported that what that does to the body 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: politic in the meantime. By the way, you want to 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: join the conversation, you can message me on Facebook, Facebook 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: dot com slash Andrew Langer Show as I said X 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: at Andrew Underscore Langer on X I'd be like Christina 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: and send me a message there by the way, I 23 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: put up my a summary of my regulatory economics research 24 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: from January on my X page at Andrew Underscore Langer. Yeah, 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, listen, if you, if you, if you like 26 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: what you hear. I haven't done this yet on the 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: show today. I do policy work. I'm not really talking 28 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: about what I'm doing there. I mean, you can find 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: it on on on on Twitter right now. A lot 30 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: of reasons for that, but yeah, I do regulatory and 31 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: healthcare policy work. I do a lot of writing on 32 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: those things. You can figure out what I'm up to. 33 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: I also do a couple of podcasts. We all do 34 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: podcasts out there. I do a weekly deep dive into 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: public policy called the Lunch Hour for the Federal News Wire. 36 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: Every week every Monday, we release a new episode. This 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: week's episode is with Paul Teller, who's a longtime DC 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: policy hand. We're talking about Medicare and Medicaid and the 39 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: Center for Medicare and Medicaid innovations. We're talking about a 40 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: bunch of things, So go and check that out at 41 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: the Lunch Hour pod. Also you can find it. Find 42 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: it there. Yeah, so all kinds of all kinds of 43 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: good stuff. You can figure out what I'm up to 44 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: these days. So I want to go here because we 45 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: don't want to talk to Tim. And as I said 46 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: the last hour, I like, I like starting off. I 47 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: played this before. I want to play it again in 48 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: case you missed it. If you know, not all the time. 49 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: Here's the problem with SNL. Let me say this, Lauren 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: Michael says it best. SNL is always your your favorite 51 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: cast of SNL is always almost invariable from when you 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: were twelve years old thirteen years old. It's certainly true 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: for me that that cast that one year with Martin 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: Short and Christopher Guest and Harry Sheer, et cetera, et cetera, 55 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: is probably my favorite year. You know, then the first 56 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: couple of years with Dennis Miller and Mike Myers and 57 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: Dana Carvey, et cetera. You know, but I will tell 58 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: you that there are some really interesting stuff happening on 59 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: SNL when when they stick to Lauren's adage that you 60 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: really have to recognize that that you shouldn't play for 61 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: New York in la and you need to remember that 62 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: there's a vast country in between, and you're focusing on 63 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: poking fun at yourself. When the guests are poking fun 64 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: at themselves, that's always a good thing. So last week's 65 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: episode with Ryan Gosling hosting his his opening monologue with 66 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: Harry Styles. If you don't know, Harry Styles is a singer, 67 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: very very popular amongst the young people. Harry Styles is 68 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: in the audience because he was the following week, and 69 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: it's very distracting to Ryan Gosling. That's when the show 70 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: is its best. When the when the cast members are 71 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: poking at each other, that's when it's best. But you know, 72 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: every once in a while, I mean there's stuff that's 73 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: that's interesting. I will say this cast member, I don't 74 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: know who it is, it's one of the one of 75 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: the players. I think he is doing an impression of 76 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson and it's pretty spot on. The secret, by 77 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: the way to good caricatures is you sees on something 78 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: that essentially becomes the essence. It's what Dana Carvey talks 79 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: about when he talks about how he does a an 80 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: impression of somebody. You sees on something very small and 81 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: you pull it out. You know you you take it 82 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: to add infinitum, to add absurdittum. So so here, this 83 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: guy's gotten Tucker Carlson's ticks down. Let's play cut number six. 84 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: Leftist woke America's favorite movie this year. 85 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: Is about sinning. Huh, why does that not surprise me? 86 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: No? Sorry, kids, we don't go to church anymore. We 87 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: go to sinners. That's the rule. That's the goal. Now, 88 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: what are you doing? What's going on? 89 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not bad. That's not bad. I think he's 90 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: I think he's really got Tucker dialed dialed in there. 91 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: I will tell you when they're not doing it well, 92 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: I will say the guy who is doing the Trump impression. 93 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: I know we don't like Alec Baldwin as a movement. 94 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: We're not supposed to like Alec Baldwin. I think Alec 95 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: Baldwin's Trump was the best Trump. This guy, I don't know. 96 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: I think it's a run of the mill Trump, and 97 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: I think they're overusing him. But the cold open this 98 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: week on SNL was about gas prices. Let's go ahead 99 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: and play cut seven. Why does Gus cost so much? 100 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: But possibly not? It's called butterfly effect. 101 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 3: Right. Epstein was first no Epstein bing bing bug bun 102 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 3: bing ban bug bug bob war. You might remember me 103 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: from such campaign promises as lower gas prices and no 104 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: more wars. We love to make promises because a promise 105 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 3: is just a lie that hasn't happened yet. 106 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: Anyway, what are we talking about? 107 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, gas prices which are very high because of 108 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: war with it. 109 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: It's a very war. And I'm sorry I cut it 110 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: off too early. And he then says, I wish that 111 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: someone had told me that that Iran is where they 112 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: make the gas. You know, it has its moments, but 113 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: but but still I think they're they're using him a 114 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: little much in the Colin Jost Pete hagg set as 115 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: a drunk. It's just a little it's a little a 116 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: thread thread worn. Now I will say they did a thing. 117 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: I was calling it Maha Hospital, but it's actually technically 118 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: my hospital m A H A S P I T 119 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: A L. Kind of like the pit. Only what happens 120 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: if they allow RFKA and company? You know something? Let 121 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: me explain something for a minute. I am all in 122 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: favor of changing the way that the FDA and HHS 123 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: do business. There are some very serious problems with what 124 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: has happened in the past and what continues to happen, 125 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: especially frankly in the way that we don't allow drugs. 126 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: It takes a long time to get drugs approved in America, 127 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: and some of it is very worthwhile. I just filed 128 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: some comments on this about how we might be able 129 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: to improve this. And I know this is big to 130 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: an Indianapolis audience given the level of pharmaceutical research that 131 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: happens here in India. So I'm speaking all to you. 132 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: The problem that I've been seeing, and one of my 133 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: deep and abiding concerns, is that we seem to have 134 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: traded at these highest levels of government. There concerns and 135 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: anger about the pharmaceutical industrial complex, whether or not that 136 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: is misplaced. Set that aside for the supplement industrial complex. 137 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: Uh and and sort of the some of it. This 138 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: is the pseudoscience, you know. I come to Indianapolis and 139 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: i tour the nov Artist Radio Ligen therapy facility manufacturing 140 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,119 Speaker 1: facility out at out near the airport, and I'm blown 141 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: away by what they're doing and the importance of what 142 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: they're doing. And then to sort of turn around and 143 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: have folks who put I got a real problem with 144 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: this anyway, so I don't have a real problem with 145 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: with uh the satire being made of some of the 146 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: shall we say, lack of scientific approach to things. Here 147 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: is here is SNL's hospital from the weekend. Let's play 148 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: cut number eight. Lady plats for eighty birthday party delead 149 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: breathing pressures. 150 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 3: Through the roof for people who love the pit. 151 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: To stroke but can't stand it's phony. 152 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: Liberal science stops going crazy risk you were thrown back 153 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: to me? 154 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: Not do? We have a definitive diagnosis from producer Robert F. 155 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior and the team who want to make America 156 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 1: healthy again. 157 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: What she means is a steak, huge protein. 158 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 3: People give me beef, tallow and six rye exact. 159 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: It's most from producers Julian Michaels and the Facebook group 160 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: Beach Moms Against Vaccine. 161 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 2: Deary that stop thrown his crashing. 162 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: I need sixty ccs a bull team. 163 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: And now comes in shows the High States Medical Crucible 164 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: of Orange County, California. 165 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: Listen, let me, let me, let me explain something real quick, 166 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: just so that we all remember this and understand what's 167 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: going on here. Because I'm deeply, deeply concerned and I 168 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: get it righteous anger about people being lied to by 169 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: the left throughout the COVID pandemic, and there needs to 170 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: be accountability for that. But we can't let the pendulum 171 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: swing so far to the other side that we allow 172 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: leftists and progressives to wrap themselves in the cloak of 173 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: so called make America Healthy again and try to pull 174 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: our public policy into a progressive agenda. And I'm seeing 175 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: this happening. There is an effort on the part of 176 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: some folks in this so called MAHA movement to try 177 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: to force, for instance, Lee Zelden, the administrator of the 178 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: Environmental Protection Agency, to resign leez Elden, who is doing 179 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: great work, who is doing work that is pro conservation, 180 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: but also shall we say, pro economics and being rational 181 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: and recognizing that when you have regulatory decisions, they have costs. 182 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: That when you want to remake the move to remake 183 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: the entire energy sector of the economy because of your 184 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: perceptions about climate policy, that's going to have an impact 185 00:10:55,360 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: down the road on American strength and competitiveness. And yet 186 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: they know folks are not recognizing this. That is hugely, 187 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: hugely disturbing to me. We have to be consistent, folks, 188 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: we have to be what we What we said was 189 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: bad when Obama did it, it continues to be bad. 190 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: If we said what was bad during Obama and the 191 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: first Trump term and then going into the Biden administration, 192 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: if it was bad through all of those times, then 193 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: it's bad now absent, by the way, evidence to the contrary. 194 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: So anyway, I am I am concerned. I thought my 195 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: hospital was pretty funny. And listen, I'm someone who does 196 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: tend to cook with a lot of animal fats nowadays. Anyway, listen, 197 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: when we come back, we're talking more about economics, and 198 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: we got Tim Graham joining us. I'm Andrew Langer. This 199 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: is Tony CAATs Today. So with that, yeah, let's kick 200 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: off the Saint Patrick's Day celebrations here on the Tony 201 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: Kats Today Show. Yeah, Tony, Tony and I, neither of 202 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: us really has much Irish blood. But I do love 203 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: Saint Patrick's Day. I always have I and I love 204 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: Irish music forever in a day. I don't even know why. 205 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's I love it, and I love good 206 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: Irish protest music. I you know, communist sympathies aside. I 207 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: have a great affinity for the IRA I think you know, 208 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: anybody who is steeped in American Revolutionary War values has 209 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: has should have an affinity for folks fighting against British tyranny. 210 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: I will be celebrating Saint Patrick's Day tomorrow with some friends, 211 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: at least for a little bit. I will be kilted, 212 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: and I know that's not strictly traditionally Irish. I actually 213 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: have a Welsh tartan kilt that I like to wear. 214 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm not Welsh either, but I do love whales. And 215 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: then Saturday will be with my good buddy Jerry Rodgers, 216 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: the editor of Real Clear Policy. You've heard him here 217 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: on these airwaves before. Jerry and I are celebrating up 218 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: in Yonkers, New York at their big mcle Lane Avenue Parade. 219 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: And then we'll be in the Bronx, in the Woodlawn 220 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: section of the Bronx. Very very excited about this. So yeah, 221 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: so very excited for Saint Patrick's Day. I love it. 222 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: Moving over to other stuff and talking more about what's 223 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: going on with energy prices and the benefits there in 224 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: of taking action. Now, yeah, listen, guys, I know it. 225 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: I know that prices are up. In fact, we're going 226 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: to jump down here Landon. Let's play cut twenty five. 227 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: This is from yesterday. Here is Energy Secretary Chris Wright 228 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: rightly explaining that energy prices are still lower than they 229 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: were at their highest point under Biden. Let's go ahead 230 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: and play cut number twenty five. 231 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: We were very aware, very aware, and we would have 232 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 4: short term disruption, we would cause some we would cause 233 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 4: a little bit of increased prices on Americans. Prices today 234 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 4: are still far below what they were in the Biden administration, 235 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 4: where they were begging, bartering, and bribing Iran to behave better. 236 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 4: We had five dollars gasoline in the middle of the 237 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 4: Biden administration. 238 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's one of those things where we weren't 239 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: getting anything out of Iran, right, Iran was in the 240 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: catbird seat. It reminds me when I think you all 241 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: know this. I've probably said this before. I went to 242 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: a very lefty high school up in New York, and 243 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: every other year my high school sends a group of 244 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: students down to Seapac, the Big Seapac Conference this year 245 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: in Dallas, for many years in DC, and they, you 246 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: know this, Right after the Russian invasion of Ukraine happened, 247 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: they were down for it. And we're talking about the 248 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: most important issues of the day, the existential threats. And 249 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: I asked them about sort of making the choice between, 250 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, bottoming out the Russian economy by overproducing oil 251 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: or making sure that we don't produce oil in the 252 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: United States in the name of solvn climate change. And 253 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: you could see some folks sort of understanding what I 254 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: was getting at. And some folks agreed, Yeah, let's bottom 255 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: out the Rusian oil economy, and other folks like, no, no, no, 256 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: the greatest existential threat is climate change. Therefore we should not, 257 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: regardless of anything else, we should not pump more oil 258 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: here in the United States. You know, it's funny to 259 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: me because so many of our price cost problems are 260 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: in some measure related to basic resource economics. It is 261 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: quite literally the opposite of rocket science here. 262 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: It is. 263 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: It is quite literally economics one oh one that if 264 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: you have high prices of a commodity in an era 265 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: of high demand, then the only way to bring down 266 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: that price is is by increasing the supply. So if 267 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: it is gas prices, you produce more gas and produce 268 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: more oil, and you find more oil into gasoline here 269 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: at home, right, you take away the chaotic nature of 270 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: getting these things done overseas, and you ameliorate the impact 271 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: here at home when there are shocks to the system healthcare, 272 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: right when you obfiscate the price, when you engage in 273 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: these bizarre cost sharing mechanisms. What do I mean by this? 274 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: You've probably heard me talk about this before. We do 275 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: not have enough health care to go around. And that's 276 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: not me making a value judgment. That's not me picking 277 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: winners and losers in a marketplace. That's me simply saying 278 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: that we have a declining number of medical care providers, 279 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: especially doctors, in America at a time when we decided 280 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: as a nation to increase the demand while trying to 281 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: artificially drive down those prices. Right, So, when you have 282 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: ever fewer numbers of doctors and you try to reimburse 283 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: them or pay them less or not to pay them 284 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: more as prices go up, then the more them we're 285 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: going to get out of it. It's going to exacerbate 286 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: the supply curve. We should have been over the last 287 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 1: fifteen years doing whatever we can to create more doctors, nurses, 288 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: and physicians assistants in America finding ways to meet that demand. 289 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: There are lots of ways to do it, and some 290 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: of it's going to be done with AI and some 291 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: of it's going to be with fixing red tape. Housing 292 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: is another prime example. Right, if you increase demand or 293 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: you have increasing demand for housing, if you if you 294 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: move people into inner cities, if you if you remove 295 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: them from rural America, and you discourage them from staying 296 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: in rural America, and you do whatever you can to 297 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: make them move into cities where they can get on 298 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: mass transit, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. You can 299 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: be surprised when if there are restrictions on what kind 300 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: of housing can be built in certain areas, that housing 301 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: prices don't skyrocket. You want to bring down the cost 302 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: of housing, build more housing, make it easier for people 303 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: to build houses. Again, this is not rocket science out there. 304 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: And let's go here. I mean, Kevin has It was 305 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: talking about the fundamentals of the economy. Let's let's play 306 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: cut twenty four. 307 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 5: First of all, it's not going to last for months. 308 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 5: President Trump's team has briefed us that it's going to 309 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 5: be four to six weeks beginning two weeks ago, and 310 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 5: that we're ahead. 311 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 2: Of schedule, and so the second, if it did. 312 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 5: Last for a long time, it wouldn't really do a 313 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 5: lot of harm to the US economy. Now, certainly there'd 314 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 5: be pocketbundition book issues that we'd have to address, but 315 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 5: the bottom line is that the US produces so much 316 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 5: oil that you can't really get GDP to go negative 317 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 5: with an oil shock the way you could in the seventies. 318 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 5: So we're in a very strong position. But it's really 319 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 5: heightens the strength by the fact that we've got a 320 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 5: productivity boom from artificial intelligence, we've got a capital spending 321 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 5: boom because of the big beautiful Bill, and we've got 322 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 5: incomes growing the fast we've seen since back around twenty eighteen, 323 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 5: and so all the fundamentals of our economy are really 324 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 5: really strong. If a rand thinks that they're going to 325 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 5: get President Trump to back down because they're going to 326 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 5: make our economy week, then they just don't understand economics. 327 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not surprised that they wouldn't understand economics when 328 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: so many people in America don't understand economics, when they're 329 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: sick of fans in the leftist media don't understand economics, 330 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: when the Democrat cheerleaders don't understand economics. You know, the 331 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: Abigail spanbergers. You know my Virginia governor doesn't understand economics. 332 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: It's it's hard not to recognize that maybe the Iranians 333 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: don't understand economics. Tim Graham from the Media Research Center. 334 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: He's going to be joining us in just a couple 335 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: of minutes. I'm Andrew Langer. This is Tony Kats today, 336 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: So I mean, listen, this is all AI. Isn't that crazy? 337 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm the bravest stuff. Oh yeah, having fun over the weekend, 338 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: making my own my own Irish Irish music. Tim Graham, Tim, 339 00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: you're a fan of Irish music. 340 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: Well, I'm Irish. I don't know so much about the 341 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: folk music. 342 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: No, Oh my goodness, I'm probably a little slow on 343 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: folk music of any kind. What's what's your go to? 344 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 4: What do you? 345 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: What do you listening to? What's what's on? What's on you? 346 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: What's on your Spotify? I don't even I don't use Spotify, 347 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: But what's on your Spotify list? 348 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: Here? What do you? 349 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: What are you listening to these days? 350 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: Well? We got we got new they might be giants coming. 351 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: Oh there you go. I love it. I love it. 352 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: We're joined by Tim Graham. He's the editor of NewsBusters 353 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: at the Media Research Center. Uh yeah, Tim, I just 354 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: I've been playing around with Souno this AI music thing 355 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, just getting getting into the spirit 356 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: for Saint Patrick. You're not going to do anything for 357 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: Saint Patrick's Day, you guys are you guys are in Alexandria, right, 358 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: you're not going to be over at over at O'Connell's 359 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: or wherever we. 360 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 2: Are in Herndon now, oh you are? Well, yeah, there 361 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: you go. We can we could go over to to 362 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: Dulls and pretend we have a flight. 363 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: Yes, that's absolutely true. Listen, folks, NewsBusters, great entity, great organization, 364 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: Media Research Center, obviously doing terrific work. But I wanted 365 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 1: to get you on a because I wanted to get 366 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: your thoughts about the oscars, but I also want to 367 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: talk to it. Let's start here, though, with the the 368 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: media's bizarre coverage of this military action. Gone are the 369 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: days where we were all hunkered in our basements watching 370 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: Wolf Blitzer and yes I'm gonna pull this from Wayne's World, 371 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: drinking Jolt cola and just getting bleary eyed. You know, 372 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: it's almost as though you know, tim you know how 373 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: I knew CNN didn't like the way things were going 374 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: with this Iran invasion. It's because they played the somber 375 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: this is really bad music, you know, over over sort 376 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: of the somebody got a splinter kinds of kinds of stories. 377 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: The media just can't They can't say anything nice about 378 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: about this presidency, can they? 379 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: No. I mean, I think this is the whole problem. 380 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 2: You know. Tamper gave this big stem winding oration at 381 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 2: the end of the show yesterday where it's like every 382 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: reporter I knows love the America, roots for America, but 383 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: we stick up for America by asking the tough questions, 384 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: and it's like, come on, you know, try again. You know, 385 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: It's the obvious point when you listen to the to 386 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: the news is the way that they frame it is 387 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: everything's going wrong. Trump doesn't know what he's doing. Gas 388 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: is going up, terrorism are going to go up. Everything's bad, 389 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 2: be very afraid. I mean that's kind of the way. 390 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: That's kind of uh, you know, the tone. Sometimes we 391 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: start with the tone and the facts come later. But 392 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: it always seems to me when I listen to these 393 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: people talk about the Trump administration that it's they're really 394 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: giving you the political weather, right, really news. It's just 395 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 2: constantly dark clouds, tornadoes, everything's bad. 396 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: It's interesting because it's like I knew a guy on 397 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: the radio who used to port about polling, and here 398 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: there are two different kinds of polls that are out there. 399 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: There are polls that that people use to tell government 400 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: what they want them to do. Should government? Uh? Should 401 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: government do X? Should government do why? I would support this, 402 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: I would support that. But there are also polls about 403 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: who who voters think is responsible for X or y. Now, 404 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that folks are actually responsible for X 405 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: or y. It just means that they're that voters are 406 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: perceiving them to be. And that's usually a function of 407 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: what the media is telling them. That's you know, am 408 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 1: I am I wrong here? That sort of we've this 409 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: is what this is the sort of the this is 410 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: what you're talking about in terms of the political weather forecasting, 411 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: isn't it? 412 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: Well? I just found it a bit disturbing that they 413 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: were already doing polls like twelve hours into the war 414 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 2: and then said this war is unpopular. It's barely started, 415 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 2: I mean right, and it's like, could it be possible 416 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 2: that you should wait forty eight hours before you start 417 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: polling about how bad it is. 418 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: Right well, I mean, listen, this is the old line 419 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: from the movie Lincoln. Time is a great thickener of things. 420 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: But we can't have that. We can't just sort of 421 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: let the red wine sit out and breathe a little bit, 422 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 1: can we. 423 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: And when you ask a poll about do you think 424 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: it's a good idea to go at war with the 425 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: world's number one supporter of terrorism, maybe people be a 426 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 2: little nervous. Do we really think that's wise? I mean, 427 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: and first of all, people don't really want to be 428 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: in favor of war because war is a terrible thing 429 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: and a lot of people die, so you don't want 430 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: to be in favor of war. But it seems like 431 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: that this is like every other Trump story, which is 432 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: the whole approach is coverage of Trump has to be negative, negative, negative, 433 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: and it can't just be gosh, things are not going 434 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: great today, guys, it's this guy's going to get us 435 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: all killed type of negativity. 436 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: This is the butt for situation, which is, you know, 437 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: Trump's popularity, where would it be but for the ninety 438 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: five percent relentlessly negative coverage right, I mean this is 439 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: this is what we're talking about. 440 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so what you're going to find with these 441 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: polls is President Trump's military action is popular with people 442 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: who voted for him, right, and it's unpopular with people 443 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 2: who voted for Kamala. But they're all like, well, look 444 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: at the independence And I think that's where you can say, 445 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: are they are independents more likely to get their views 446 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 2: based on just a gut check what they're seeing in 447 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 2: the news, And you know, being a little scared by 448 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: war with Iran doesn't sound comfy. 449 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and right, and then there's the issue of 450 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: whether or not they're really independent. So they just tell 451 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: folks that they're independence because they but they really have 452 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: their things. Well let's go here, because talking talking up 453 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: sort of more fun stuff. I'm sure. Well, you guys 454 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: watch the Academy Awards. The the rest of us don't 455 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: have to your your thoughts on what trend the pageant 456 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: of the Motion Picture Academy last evening. 457 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we try to watch all these awards shows 458 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 2: because they become platforms and celebrities and actors and singers 459 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: are all like you to use my form to say. 460 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: Progressive that is a wonderful thirst and hell the third 461 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: impression by the way. 462 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: Yes, well and they're that rich. So it's it is 463 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 2: the last couple of award shows have been a little bland. 464 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: You know that they were very upset that the Golden 465 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: Globes didn't have more fears anti Trump rhetoric. You know, sure, 466 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 2: we want we want our awards shows to sound like 467 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: Keith Olberman on Happy Play. Yeah, and we got more 468 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: of that last night. You know, you did get some 469 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: of these orations, and you've got you know, bad anti 470 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 2: Trump jokes from Codin O'Brien, and then Jimmy Kimmel comes 471 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: in to give an award and does his anti trum 472 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 2: Trump routine, you know. And the documentary award Oscar Winner 473 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: was something about the documentary is about Putin, So you 474 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: knew that was going to be anti Trump. 475 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: Sure. 476 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 2: So it's this is where you know a lot of 477 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 2: conservatives now their whole pose is I don't watch these 478 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: award shows. I think that this is an opportunity to 479 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 2: just say, look at these rich left wing jerks and 480 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: what jerks they are, and you know, yeah, I want 481 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: to highlight these comments. You know. 482 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: It's it's funny because That's exactly what I said at 483 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: the beginning of the show. You know, it's it's become 484 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: it's become the thing to say, I don't watch this. 485 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: I watched. I would have watched last night. I had 486 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: some some family emergency last night, so I couldn't watch it. 487 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: I would have watched it because I do like Conan O'Brien. 488 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: I do like his podcast. You know, he when he's 489 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: when he's engaging in his absurdist humor, that's the best 490 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: Conan O'Brien. But but the the you know, when he 491 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: gets political, it just it comes off as as I 492 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: don't know, the the note doesn't ring well because it's 493 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: just not him. 494 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, as opposed to yeah, with somebody like Kimmel, it's 495 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: definitely him, right, Yeah. I mean, I guess these days 496 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: you wouldn't really have to watch the whole show. You 497 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 2: could just watch people's tweet right now. 498 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: Right, I mean, I haven't watched the opening opening monologue. 499 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. I mean, I you know, as 500 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: I said, I like that, just again, get when he 501 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: gets when he gets goofy, it's it's always a good thing. 502 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, because you know I said 503 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: this earlier. I wanted to get your thoughts. Saturday Night 504 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: Live is best when they are making fun of each other. 505 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: I think, you know, and stars are poking fun at themselves. 506 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: Last week Ryan Gosling hosting and sort of feeling a 507 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: little inferior when Harry Styles was in the front row 508 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: of the audience during his opening monologue. That's good, but 509 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: again the sort of the one note the political stuff. 510 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: It's just not all that interesting. I don't think you 511 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: what are you? What are your thoughts here? 512 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? I you know. The wife loves Harry Styles and 513 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 2: so she thought this show is terrific. And there were 514 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: really some some funny bits, and I think the biggest 515 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: surprise was they had this thing where Sebastian Maniscalco is 516 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: going to be a yer, which. 517 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: Was yes, but really until the very end they should 518 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: have ended it differently. But that was amazing. 519 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. But Harry Founds doing a Manuscalco in Preston who Yeah, 520 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 2: that was coming. 521 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: Yes, no, there, absolutely true, it is it was. It 522 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: was folks. If you haven't seen this, uh, the Marcello 523 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: whatever his name is is doing the Sebastian Manuscaco impression. 524 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: He's done it a couple of times before, but doing 525 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: it as a as a defense lawyer, and then Harry 526 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: Styles doing his Sebastian Maniscalco impression. Yeah, that was that 527 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: was that was well, that was well worth it. So, so, Tim, 528 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: how do folks find out more about the good work? 529 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: You guys are doing it at NewsBusters. 530 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,239 Speaker 2: NewsBusters dot RG and of course yeah we follow us 531 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: an ax or follow the NewsBusters podcast on YouTube and rumble. 532 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: It's good stuff. And Herndon did you have when? When 533 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: do I missed this? When did you guys make the 534 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: move to Herndon? 535 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: Well, we went from Alexander to rest in twenty thirteen, 536 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: and when the lease was up and rest in in 537 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, we moved over to Herndon. 538 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: You know what that tells me? That tells me, Tim, 539 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: I've been in this business too long. I'm way too 540 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: old for this today. 541 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: I mean, this is like for me, I started at 542 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: the MRC in nineteen eighty nine, so this is ah, 543 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: that's right quarters, This is like headquarters number five or something. 544 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: Well, there you go. You know something, you and I 545 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: I think you made you have me beat ever so 546 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: slightly in DC, Tim Grab, thank you so very much 547 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: for joining us, My friend. You bet that's Tim Gram 548 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: He's the editor of NewsBusters. Check them out NewsBusters dot org. 549 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: Some final thoughts while we come back. I'm Andrew Langer. 550 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: This is Tony Kats Today. Welcome back, guys. Yeah, you 551 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: know something. I am obsessed with Michael Collins. If you 552 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: haven't seen the movie with Lee and Meeson, you want 553 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: to do something on Saint Patrick's Day, go and watch 554 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: that Michael Collins. It's a great movie. So yeah, So 555 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: I was writing songs over the weekend about Michael Collins 556 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: and Amon dave A Laria And there's a somewhat mid 557 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: level character in it named Ned Brye. I wrote a 558 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: little thing about him anyway, having fun with that. Hi, everybody, 559 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm Andrew Langer in for Tony Katz Today. Got a 560 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: little caffeine there. You know, Landon and I always talking 561 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: about this stuff off the air. I'm going to talk 562 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: about this for a minute. I'll come back to the 563 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: policy stuff momentarily. I am obsessed with Lorne Michaels. You know, 564 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: I find him fascinating. I read the biography that came 565 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: out about him last year. Lorne Michael's the man who 566 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: invented Saturday Night and as I was telling Landon, if 567 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: you are someone who is in business, and you are 568 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: someone who is in leadership and business, if you are 569 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: someone who is moving up corporate ladder, I cannot recommend 570 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: this book highly enough because it really is a book 571 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: about leadership and leadership in complex organizations, how to manage 572 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: groups of creative people and get the best out of them, 573 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: and the missteps you can make. It's very good. So 574 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: Lorn Michael is the man who invented Saturday Night. There's 575 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: a movie, a documentary coming out next month. I cannot 576 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: wait for it to come out. Very excited about this. Yeah, 577 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: I oh yes, I will do my Lauren Michael's impression 578 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: every once in a while. It drives my wife up 579 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: the wall and when I do it anyway, So yeah, 580 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: Lauren Michael's the man who invented Saturday Night. Life. Men 581 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: invented Saturday Night. Let's go here, obviously. So, I don't 582 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: know how many of you have flown recently. I flew 583 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: last week. Holy cow, the days all blend together. I 584 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: had to go give a presentation up in New York 585 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. If you're gonna fly, my 586 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: recommendation is if you don't have TSA pre check, get it. 587 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: I think you can still get it right now. I 588 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: just saw comments on that on the paperwork therein Go 589 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: and get your TSA pre check, because right now that 590 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: really is the only way you can beat these lines. 591 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: If you don't have TSA pre check, I would advise 592 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: you not to fly. If you can help it, I'll 593 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: get to the airport super super early. Here is Sean 594 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: Duffy yesterday on talking about this, and the Democrats need 595 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: to come to the table. Let's play cut number eight team. 596 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 6: So, as you mentioned, TSA agents have missed a partial payment, 597 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 6: they dismissed a full payment. These are men and women 598 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 6: who don't make a lot of money, and so some 599 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 6: of them are making choices to go, you know, whether 600 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 6: they're driving uber or you know, waiting tables. They have 601 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 6: to put food on their family's table. And in these 602 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 6: places where this is happening, you're seeing really long lines, 603 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 6: whether they're one hour, three to four hour lines at airports. 604 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 6: And I think if you stand in that line, it's 605 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 6: one thing Maria can buy yourself, but if you're with 606 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 6: some little kids or any kids for three or four hours, 607 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 6: it's horrible. And so you can think a Democrat who 608 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 6: cares more about making sure that the fifteen million people 609 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 6: that they led into this country under Joe Biden, that 610 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 6: we don't have ice that can actually look across the country, 611 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 6: find those radical elements who come into the country without 612 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,959 Speaker 6: by the way, without being vetted, find them and deport them. 613 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 6: This is what these Democrats want. And so my hope 614 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,959 Speaker 6: is that Democrats will come to their senses, open up DHS, 615 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 6: and then have a negotiation, have a conversation, but in 616 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 6: the process, don't hold America hostage to just get what 617 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 6: you want. 618 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: The Democrats. Let's be really clear as to where we 619 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: are right now. The Democrats are on the side of 620 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 1: the Iranians. Right They wanted to see the Iranian regime 621 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: remain in place. They don't like the military action. They 622 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: don't want to fund any military actions. So they want 623 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: to make sure that the Mullahs, that the Iatolas remain 624 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: in charge in Iraq. They want to make sure that 625 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: the TSA agents are staying home. They want to make 626 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: sure that you have three to four let's say hours 627 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: long lines, let's say an hour long line. They want 628 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 1: to make sure that you have to take extra time 629 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: because they're not willing to fund the government. Why because 630 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: they don't like the fact that somebody is taking decisive 631 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: action to deal with the crisis that the Democrats themselves caused. 632 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't play this, but you know Chuck 633 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: Schumer is talking about the problems of the Save Act 634 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: kicking millions of people off the voter rolls. Well, that's 635 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: an admission by Chuck Schumer that potentially millions of people 636 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: are voting illegally in our elections. That's the side that 637 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: the Democrats are standing on. It's very clear there. Listen, 638 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: you want to find out more about the good work 639 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: that I'm doing, follow me on x at Andrew Underscoreliner. 640 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: You can find my podcasts, the policy work that I'm doing, 641 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: the various writings that are out there. Go and check 642 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: it out. As always, it's been great. Thank you Landon 643 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 1: for producing, Thank you Tony, Thank you to the team 644 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: at Tony Cats today. Have a great good night everybody, 645 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: and please stay safe.