1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Well, he told me he desperately wants to talk about 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: his work in the alley. So I said, hey, sign 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: me up for that. That's interesting. It's kettle a CAZy show. 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm Rob Casey's out today. Ethan Hatcher in for Casey. 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Ryan Headrick, newsman extraordinair from the WIBC newsroom, joins us 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: now for the latest on the Mark sanch as well. 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: It's a saga at this point. It is Ryan Hedrick, Hello, 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: what's going on? 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: Guys? How are you all right? 10 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: So? You have been just digging and digging. You have 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: done all sorts of work, ignoring friends, family, other commitments. 12 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: Your wife hasn't seen me in three days, he arked, desperately. 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: Really that long to walk the alley? 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: Geez, it's a long alley. 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: Amazing work you're doing getting information as it relates to 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez. Now, before we dig into that, so TMZ 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: came out with a video compilation of him wandering the alley, 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: walking down the alley, walking back into the alley, walking out. 19 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: With what appears to be the stab woman. 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: I mean, like, I have more quest That video gave 21 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: me more questions that it did answers. 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: What say you? 23 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: I think we answered a possible motive in that this 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: may have been a guy that was just looking for trouble, 25 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 3: right because he he was circling the alley as we 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: see twelve oh five. There are three or four important 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: timestamps in that video sequence that TMZ shared. In the 28 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: first is is Perry Told driving his truck. I think 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: he's headed. 30 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: He's the victim. 31 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Perry Told is the victim. He said in northbound 32 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 3: as he takes a left turn from West Washington onto 33 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: South o Sage Street and headed down toward that dumpster 34 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: in the bay where he's dumping Greece behind the Weston Hotel. 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: And then I think that the couple of times that 36 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: we see Mark Sanchez emerging from the alley as he 37 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: enters from the Maryland street side and heads back north 38 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: toward West Washington Street, he's kind of looking over his shoulder, 39 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: and that's part of the video where I felt compelled 40 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: the shit where the dumpster is, because I think he 41 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 3: at that point he sees Perry Toll, but he doesn't 42 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: exactly know what's going on. 43 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So this is where it comes to more questions 44 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: than answers, because it appears he leaves the alleyway and 45 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: then goes back and so it goes to your thing 46 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: like it was almost like he was looking for a fight. 47 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: But you're and look again this. 48 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: And you know this as well as anybody, and you 49 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: talk about this a lot on your Supporting Sobriety podcast. 50 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: Substance abuse, abusive substances, whatever make people do crazy things. 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: But you're Mark Sanchez, You're a gajillionaire, you have a 52 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: gorgeous wife, you have, you're an NFL football announcer. You're 53 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: looking to fight people in alleyways. I don't know, man, 54 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 1: I mean that just something seems totally off about. 55 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: All ye that It's pretty strange, and I'm I'm I'm 56 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: thankful that as part of my reporting process I visited 57 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: that that pub toward Senate Avenue because I now know 58 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 3: that that pub closed at midnight. So if Sanchez is 59 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: walking east up West Washington Street at about twelve fourteen, 60 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: twelve fifteen, and he approaches the pub, I think we 61 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: can surmise that he probably saw the clothes sign on 62 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: the pub and just turn right back. That's exactly why 63 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: I think he turned back because there were no more 64 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: bars open to continue drinking. 65 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 4: What so kind of at a last year. What would 66 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 4: be the motivation for this successful guy, former quarterback, sports broadcaster. 67 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 4: He's in a strange city. What's the motivation there to 68 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: go looking for trouble, to get inebriated or intoxicated in 69 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 4: some way, in some form or fashion, and then go 70 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 4: wandering around a strange city. Because that just seems like 71 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 4: a recipe for a disaster, which clearly it was. 72 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: You ever heard of liquid courage? That's exactly what I 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: think was going on. I mean, I can remember, I'll 74 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: just share when I used to get drunk a lot. 75 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: I used to get angry the more I drank. And 76 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: depending on what you drink. I think I shoued with you, 77 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: Rob with the Kenda when she was in here. Yeah, 78 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Casey, let me slow down. When I was 79 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: drinking one hundred proof liquor, I used to get very 80 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: angry and alcohol straw. 81 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 82 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: Alcohol affects people in different ways. So maybe, I mean, 83 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: we're we're just guessing at this point, but his mannerisms 84 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: and and what he was doing up and down that 85 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 3: sidewalk indicate that he was looking at something that he 86 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: didn't like or had to turn back. The pub was closed, 87 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 3: and now he's headed back west and backay to go 88 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:31,559 Speaker 3: down that alley. 89 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so he was what he finally was released, he 90 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: being Mark Sanchez was finally released from the hospital. He 91 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: was then booked into the Marion County jail. Correct, so 92 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: the mugshot is out and and processing. 93 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: The judge said he had to do that in order 94 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: to be able to leave the state. 95 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, So Friday was actually a really important day in 96 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: this whole sagas you called it book, because the judge 97 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 3: ordered Sanchez to be after he was released from the hospital, 98 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 3: he had to go to the jail to get processed. 99 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: In order to leave the state. The lawyers filed for 100 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: a motion to leave the state because he obviously I 101 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: think he lives in California. Dana Point is where he 102 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 3: owns a home. So in order to get back home, 103 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 3: the attorneys had to put in a motion and that 104 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: motion was granted by a Marion County judge. So on Sunday, 105 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: I think what we saw is him getting released from Eskenazi, 106 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: showing up at the Justice Center to get processed, which 107 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: involves the booking photo in the fingerprints, and then getting 108 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 3: kicked back out to be confronted by reporters in front 109 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 3: of the Justice Center. 110 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: Okay, so we actually have a little bit of this 111 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: as he was coming out of the Justice Center. 112 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: Here's that clip. 113 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 5: Now, I'm just focused on my recovery and I just 114 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 5: wanted to thank the first responders. That's Kenazi Hospital. That's 115 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 5: why you're getting put hi. I just want to thank 116 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 5: doctor Moussler, a surgeon. I should say my life. I'm 117 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 5: grateful for that. 118 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: Sorry, any better. 119 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: So he's got a major problem in the sense of 120 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: this is not an embarrassing thing like you know, the 121 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy or Peewee Herman or whatever, or hey, that's 122 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: a really bad look. But you know, people would say 123 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: it's largely a victimless crime, right in the sense of 124 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: nobody was injured in the process. 125 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: You've got a guy who is totally disfigured and he 126 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: allegedly did this. 127 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's as big a problem as 128 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 3: you may think it is. And here's the reason why 129 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: the Marion County justice system is very sympathetic to addicted people. 130 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: I know for a fact I have sat in rooms 131 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 3: and meetings with people recently who have been convicted of 132 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: serious drug trafficking crimes. Serious, serious drug trafficking crimes, a 133 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: lot of weight on them, and they stand in front 134 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: of a judge and they laugh about it. These people 135 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: will tell me after the meeting, or even share in 136 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: a meeting that they that they pled to being a 137 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: drug addict or a drug user, whatever. They just couldn't 138 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: control their habits. So for Mark Sanchez, his defense will 139 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: most likely if he's smart, center on, I can't control 140 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: my alcohol. It's taken over me, and the Marion County 141 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: justice system will probably say, Okay, you probably do have 142 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: a problem and order some kind of rehab. 143 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: Before we let you go. Now, Sanchez is married now, 144 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: but there is a woman. I don't think he was 145 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: ever married to her, but he has at least what 146 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: one one kid with her. Yeah right, and she is 147 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: she was a former model and. 148 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: Bobby or Kay is their model name. 149 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah that's not her real name. 150 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: But what the think it comes back to this too, 151 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: like just just throwing away. Like Rod Stewart wrote a 152 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: song once, is that some guys have all the luck 153 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: and that is this guy's life and people. 154 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: Are look at this going you threw it all? 155 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: Like everything about this guy's like good looking, great athlete, 156 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: perfect ten you know wives and girlfriends, you know, rich 157 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: and and they're like you what you were fighting some 158 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: guy in an alley? Okay, but the mother of his 159 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: child spoke out on was it Instagram? 160 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 161 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: She took to her Instagram account to talk to why 162 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: you do it right? 163 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,119 Speaker 2: Yeah? What did she say? 164 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: Emily Campineri? She said that, you know, her first priority 165 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 3: is and always will be her eight year old son, Daniel. 166 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: She said she received an alert on her phone sitting 167 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: next to her son last Saturday when this happened, and 168 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: she said she wasn't surprised. I think it's an indictment 169 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 3: on his behavior. She didn't elaborate on why she wasn't 170 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 3: surprised by this, but look, we talk about it all 171 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: the time when you have me in here to promote 172 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 3: the Supporting Sobriety podcast. Addiction is an insidious disease. It 173 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: is subtle in the ways it affects me, and it 174 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 3: knows no socio economic boundaries. And I'm not saying that 175 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 3: Mark Sanchez. I'm not saying he's not culpable of this 176 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: or not responsible. I'm not saying that at all. I'm 177 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: just saying, when the drugs enter somebody's body, no matter 178 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: what their status is, no matter what top tier person 179 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: you think they are, all bets are off. And Sanchez 180 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: obviously couldn't handle this liquor. 181 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 4: And I would love to hear a little bit more 182 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 4: from your perspective about that comment about the defense that 183 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,359 Speaker 4: he will most likely attempt to mount. Oh, the alcohol, 184 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: it took over, It took control of me. I think 185 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 4: that is a BS argument because I don't think alcohol, 186 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 4: or any other drug or intoxicating substance for that matter, 187 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: it doesn't take you over. 188 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: It reveals more of who you were at your core. 189 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 4: It just takes off those inhibitions and the activities that 190 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 4: you already had a propensity to engage in. You will 191 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 4: be drawn to even more so because those inhibitions are 192 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 4: utterly removed. 193 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more. I think he should be held 194 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: theres responsible one percent. I'm just telling you from what 195 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: I know to be true. I have lots and lots 196 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: and lots of friends who should be in prison right now. 197 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: Instead they're in twelve step meetings because they have gone 198 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: in front of that prosecutor and all his You know, 199 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: men and women who prosecute these cases, and they stand 200 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: up and they say I am an addict, I am 201 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: an alcoholic drugs, And for some reason, the Marion County 202 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: justice system is sympathetic to people who stand in front 203 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: of a judge and say I need a second shot 204 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,479 Speaker 3: because I need help, and trust and believe his attorneys 205 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 3: are already formulating a game plan because the whole thing 206 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: is the affid David says he was intoxicated. So the 207 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 3: prosecutor's office is going to look at that as an 208 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: extenuating circumstance and say, well, it's almost like they treat 209 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: addiction and alcoholism is a third person in these crimes. 210 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: I'm not so I'm not saying it's right, but I'm 211 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: saying that's what they do. 212 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 4: That's crazy that that would be a mitigating factor to 213 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 4: your alleged assault against a sixty nine year old man 214 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 4: who you beat so hard it busted his cheeks straight 215 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 4: to the bone, allegedly. 216 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: Now, if Ryan Meers wants to take a victory lap, 217 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: what he can also do is double down on justice 218 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: and say, no matter what kind of condition you were in, 219 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: this is what we're gonna do. You don't come to 220 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: Indianapolis and commit crimes like this. We stand with the victim. 221 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: But wouldn't that be the first time. Wouldn't that be 222 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: the first time that Ryan Meres has ever stood with 223 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: the victim? 224 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: Yes, there's an election to be one though. All right, 225 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: Ryan Hedrick, where can people find you? 226 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 3: By the way, Sure to cover, Twitter at, Sure to cover, 227 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: and then follow me on TikTok at sure to cover 228 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 3: number two and of course WIBC dot com. Our whole 229 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: news team working on the story day and night. 230 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: Ryan Hedrick, are the best. Thank you.