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Speaker 2: It live from the NFL Combine in downtown Indianapolis. You're

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Speaker 2: listening to the Fan Morning show here at Kevin Bowen,

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Speaker 2: James Boyd and Jeff Record.

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Speaker 3: Good morning everyone.

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Speaker 4: It is Christmas Day for Kevin Bowen, and I would

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Speaker 4: let's say a little bit for James Boyd as well.

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Speaker 4: We are at the Convention Center downtown Indianapolis. As the

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Speaker 4: man said, the twenty twenty six NFL Combine is underway

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Speaker 4: in just a few hours, and we, along with a

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Speaker 4: few other early morning risers, are already in the building

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Speaker 4: and ready to go. This morning for you, and I

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Speaker 4: can't wait to get going. And Kevin, I said a

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Speaker 4: moment ago, it's Christmas morning for you, my friend boy.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I agree hole heartedly. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I see how excited I see the light in your

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Speaker 4: eyes every time we.

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Speaker 5: Looking at you. Right now, I see the sleep in

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Speaker 5: your eyes. But Madge made Brothers, Yeah, undername's number.

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Speaker 3: One of the building tonight. Maybe that's our Christmas morning,

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Speaker 3: or it could be a lot of cold and the

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Speaker 6: You're rocking in the Notre Dame Hasse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I do enjoy the NFL Combine more

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Speaker 3: than most. I feel like the media has like a

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Speaker 3: massive negative connotation with the combine. I'm like, what the

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Speaker 3: Are we like looking forward to getting some substance here?

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Speaker 3: So yes, early morning here gms will start to talk

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Speaker 3: around ten o'clock. Will have to wait quite a while

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Speaker 3: until the Colts Brass get up there late today during

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Speaker 3: John's show. But should have Chris Bauer join us tomorrow?

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Speaker 3: And uh, I guess let some of the off season

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is really when the off season for the

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Speaker 4: seven days here at the combine, between workouts and interviews

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Speaker 4: all the steakhouses of general managers and team presidents James Boyd.

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Speaker 4: There could be peals getting done today that won't get

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, you're making a good point. I mean, this

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Speaker 5: So when we talked to Chris Baller later today, those

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Speaker 5: I know, with them basically hitching their wagon a Daniel

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Speaker 6: All Right, we'll be here for the next four days,

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Speaker 6: looking forward to that. Today.

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Speaker 4: Jake will be here from noon to three. John will

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Speaker 4: we'll talk to Chris Ballard tomorrow, I believe, and I

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Speaker 4: don't quite know him yet at this point in time.

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Speaker 4: So we got the combine coming up, Kevin, You're the

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Speaker 6: I'm settling into my easy chair last night.

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Speaker 4: I've taken every thing that I need to get done done,

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Speaker 4: and I'm looking forward to North Carolina and Louisville, and

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Speaker 4: I turned on the game to watch North Carolina and Louisville,

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Speaker 4: and I get simulated golf for a while. Well what

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Speaker 6: Now, Oh that weird. I know you probably missed that,

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Speaker 3: In the right channel? I watched all North Carolina Louisville?

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Speaker 6: Where where where were you at? Because I didn't see

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Speaker 3: Probably would have rather come over to your house. But no,

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Speaker 3: And then I watched Houston Kansas and Darren Peterson actually played.

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Speaker 6: I had no wonder you to go to sleep.

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Speaker 4: I'm proud of you, man, I didn't that didn't make

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Speaker 6: Wow, you know the the you know the one I'm

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Speaker 6: Maybe maybe have to do with the service that you get.

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Speaker 5: Pays cable b o. Kevin the guy gotta lock in at.

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Speaker 3: Peyton Bill where Direct TV sounds like a Bally sports

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Speaker 4: It sounds like TV the cock we have, We've got

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Speaker 4: Got about everything, man, But that's the I don't know.

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Speaker 4: That's the way it worked in my house last night.

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Speaker 4: So that was weird. So I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you're just special, Maybe you're maybe you're well, we

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Speaker 6: know you're smarter. But that's okay.

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Speaker 5: Well, KB, I know as we get throughout the rest

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Speaker 5: What is there to really dive into in your mind?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think with the two big ones, Daniel Jones

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Speaker 4: I'm just curious does the health of Justin Wally play

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we got in this debate a little

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Speaker 4: Last year, we saw Chris Ballard go big into free

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Speaker 5: And that's why I think it's when he said we

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Speaker 5: So today is mostly you can have two hundred people there.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, live from the Combine downtown Indianapolis. It's the

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Speaker 4: Fan Morning Show on with Kevin Bowen, James Boyd and

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Speaker 4: Jeff Rickard and we got cam engineer Cam on the

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Speaker 4: the station. We are getting ready to hear from Shane

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Speaker 6: You expect anything new to come out of the well.

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Speaker 5: Shane's going to be the longer talker. He's definitely going

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Speaker 3: And I believe Chris Ballard tomorrow with us nine forty five,

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Speaker 4: Right, looking forward to that. Meanwhile, you talked about Rick Carlisle.

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Speaker 4: Just for kis and giggles, James, here is the injury

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Speaker 3: Three starters, two best players. Let's just please make it interesting.

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Speaker 4: Boys Sectionals take place later on this week. James Fisher's

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Speaker 3: Next week for boys basketball Sectionals? Girls Stay Finals this week?

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Speaker 3: Oh, tanking for Gunner, Tanking for Gunner.

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Speaker 6: Let's go all right, Stunner for Gunner.

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Speaker 5: Philip has the unique like kind of like I don't

435
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Speaker 5: know how to describe it, Kevin. It's like a shot

436
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Speaker 5: put in motion.

437
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Speaker 3: Or yeah, I'll never forget Philip telling the story about

438
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Speaker 3: Norm Chow, the longtime coach when he got to NC State.

439
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Speaker 3: That is Philip. Norm Chow, the offensive coordinator asked Philip

440
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Speaker 3: if he was hurt when he saw his throwing motion.

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Speaker 6: It worked out for him, okay, all right, right, and

442
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Speaker 6: passed it down to his son who was hurt.

443
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Speaker 3: Signetty the quarterbacks coach, right for Philip Rivers senior year

444
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Speaker 3: in North Carolina State to bring a full.

445
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Speaker 4: Circle, I like that to anything else you guys want

446
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Speaker 4: to throw him before we head off the break.

447
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Speaker 3: Here again, we got IndyCar coming up this weekend, so

448
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Speaker 3: that would be the Saint Pete opener down there. Busy

449
00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,479
Speaker 3: month of March, and we'll see if miamle Hile can

450
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Speaker 3: keep it going. They play tonight. Four left here in

451
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Speaker 3: the regular season. Again, it's not like we have many

452
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Speaker 3: undefeated regular seasons in college basketball, no matter the level here.

453
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Speaker 3: So a couple of road games from Miama, Ohio this week,

454
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Speaker 3: but they are favored in both of them. Think it's

455
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Speaker 3: Eastern Michigan and Western Michigan.

456
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Speaker 4: I keep seeing disrespect for them though people are saying

457
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Speaker 4: that they don't win the conference that they might get

458
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Speaker 4: left out.

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Speaker 6: It's hard to imagine that.

460
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't imagine it, to be honest with you.

461
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Speaker 3: I mean, you're telling me you have one law. Like,

462
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Speaker 3: let's say they got all the way to the conference

463
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Speaker 3: championship game, You're really gonna lean out with one loss.

464
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't.

465
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Speaker 4: But I see people projecting them if they don't win

466
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Speaker 4: the conference tournament out, which.

467
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Speaker 6: Is crazy to me.

468
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that does not make sense to me.

469
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Speaker 4: It makes no sense to me either. All right, we

470
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Speaker 4: are live from the Combine. We'll continue to be here

471
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Speaker 4: all week long. Coming up later on this morning, we'll

472
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Speaker 4: get things started off. Kayln Kaylor is going to stop by.

473
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Speaker 4: Always fun to talk to her as she is the

474
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Speaker 4: sun King fundraiser going on all the time, kind of

475
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Speaker 4: taking over for what Peter King used to do.

476
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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, So overt sun King coming up on Friday there,

477
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Speaker 3: so yeah, benefiting the Riley Children's Foundations.

478
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Speaker 5: I absolutely love that.

479
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Speaker 3: So Kayln Kaylor will join us here live on Radio

480
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Speaker 3: Row at nine.

481
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Speaker 4: All right, we'll talk a little more NFL colts as

482
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Speaker 4: we come to you from the Combine today right here

483
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Speaker 4: on ninety three five and one seven, Live.

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Speaker 2: From the NFL Combine in downtown Indianapolis. You were listening

485
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Speaker 2: to the fan morning show, guys.

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Speaker 6: Before we get into football stuff.

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Speaker 4: At the combine here, we were talking about the Pacers

488
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Speaker 4: and all the injuries they have. They of course had

489
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Speaker 4: the one hundred thousand dollars fine from the NBA for

490
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Speaker 4: lack of better term tanking. Also that you can say it,

491
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Speaker 4: Jeff Utah was fined five hundred thousand dollars for tanking.

492
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Speaker 4: They announced yesterday the starting center use of Nurkic will

493
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Speaker 4: undergo a surgical procedure on his nose Kevin and he

494
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Speaker 4: will be out for the rest of the year.

495
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Speaker 5: But the part that is ridiculous about that, which again

496
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Speaker 5: I'm not saying you shouldn't get surgery, but he's had

497
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Speaker 5: this for years plural so.

498
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Speaker 4: Do they canvas thro room and go Guys, if you've

499
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Speaker 4: had anything you want to get taken.

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Speaker 5: KB, Yeah, I know you talked about like you know, hey,

501
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Speaker 5: I like to rocking the Hookahs. The toe isn't what

502
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Speaker 5: it used to be. So if you need some time off, brother,

503
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Speaker 5: the Hookahs have worked out great. I'm gonna say you

504
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Speaker 5: if you were a part of the Utah Jazz.

505
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Speaker 6: I look old as hell, but the toe feels good.

506
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Speaker 5: I'm just letting you know, if you were a part

507
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Speaker 5: of the Utah Jazz roster, you could go get surgery

508
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Speaker 5: out for the year.

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Speaker 3: Well, I feel like the Jazz and the Kings having

510
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Speaker 3: the Kings had about nine dudes ye out for the

511
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Speaker 3: year with surgery as well. So yeah, again on the

512
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Speaker 3: if you want to look at the Pacers Sunday night,

513
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Speaker 3: they actually I mean they played to win that game.

514
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Speaker 3: You know, Siakam is finished in the fourth quarter, and

515
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Speaker 3: you know Rick Carlisle's challenging plays late, and you know

516
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Speaker 3: some of these other teams. I'm like, wait a minute,

517
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Speaker 3: how have there not been additional fines in Utah's case

518
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Speaker 3: or in Zach Crimental's case. Just I guess any sort

519
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Speaker 3: of punishment here. So this gets back to the conversation

520
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Speaker 3: we had about a week and a half ago, James,

521
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Speaker 3: I think it was you and I when we did

522
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Speaker 3: the show right after the fines. It's like, where is

523
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Speaker 3: the actual black and white on this. It just seems

524
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Speaker 3: like such selective punishment when it comes to some of

525
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Speaker 3: this stuff, and it's very confusing to me. And I

526
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Speaker 3: think if you're a member of the Pacers, would be

527
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Speaker 3: very frustrating.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, I think they just canvassed the room.

529
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Speaker 4: To your point, James, and this hit Okay, anybody that's

530
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Speaker 4: had anything over the last five seven years that they

531
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Speaker 4: want to get taken care of.

532
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Speaker 6: But I kind of played through, now's the time to

533
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Speaker 6: get it done right.

534
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Speaker 4: It's you got to have that skin tag removed and

535
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Speaker 4: you can be out for two.

536
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Speaker 3: To three, which again I guess I understand a little

537
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Speaker 3: bit of it, but it's like, okay, from an NBA

538
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Speaker 3: punishment standpoint, why Indiana with the one hundred thousand of

539
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Speaker 3: sense and again second out of it back to back?

540
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Speaker 3: It just all I mean, if we go back to it,

541
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Speaker 3: it's all very confusing to me, no question about that.

542
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Speaker 4: Not a lot of confusion at the combine. It's pretty straightforward.

543
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Speaker 4: Everyone gets together, most teams do, though. You guys were

544
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Speaker 4: talking though during the break there are a few teams

545
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Speaker 4: that don't send their their head coach to their general manager.

546
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Speaker 4: They just kind of send some scouts and call it good.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, James, feel free to rams Jags. I mean,

548
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Speaker 3: there are some other teams I think that you know,

549
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Speaker 3: basically guess lay the land of what's going to happen here. Obviously,

550
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Speaker 3: the on field workouts is the most public sized that

551
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Speaker 3: people see on NFL network. Those will begin on Thursday,

552
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Speaker 3: I believe it's three o'clock Thursday, and Friday. Quarterbacks will

553
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Speaker 3: throw Saturday, and then offensive linemen rounded on Sunday. The

554
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Speaker 3: other big thing for teams is you do get the

555
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Speaker 3: opportunity to sit down with prospects, what ten to fifteen

556
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Speaker 3: minute interviews. I think over the years you've seen some

557
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Speaker 3: of these clips start to come out, typically after guys

558
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Speaker 3: are drafted. You see teams produce these draft videos where hey,

559
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Speaker 3: let's go back and watch when our you know, then

560
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Speaker 3: prospect in February came into our team meeting room and

561
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Speaker 3: broke down film or we asked them questions. Yeah, well

562
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Speaker 3: all that stuff is now videotapes and you can do

563
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Speaker 3: it live Frankly on zoom and Sean McVay can go

564
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Speaker 3: being his beautiful whatever Beverly Hills mansion and watch all

565
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Speaker 3: of that. Or you know, Jacksonville's brass. You know it

566
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Speaker 3: seems like they're not, you know, taking part in it

567
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Speaker 3: from an in person standpoint, Yeah, you just send your

568
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Speaker 3: scouts up there, you send your position coaches. Maybe to

569
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Speaker 3: observe the drills in person and to talk with some

570
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Speaker 3: of these guys in one on one. But I don't

571
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Speaker 3: think it's an overwhelming amount, James. But definitely some teams

572
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Speaker 3: have elected to go down that path.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. And it's funny Kevin and Jeff when

574
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Speaker 5: you look at the reaction from whichever fan base, because,

575
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Speaker 5: for example, the Rams, they're good every year, you know,

576
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Speaker 5: more or less, they were a Super Bowl contender last year,

577
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Speaker 5: very clearly, and so if they don't send anybody, it's like, well,

578
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Speaker 5: they know they're doing And then if you are a

579
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Speaker 5: team like unlike well up until last year where the Jaguars,

580
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Speaker 5: you know, they hadn't had much success, where it's like, well,

581
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Speaker 5: you gotta be sending people. You gotta be there all

582
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Speaker 5: day every day. So it all just you know, it

583
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Speaker 5: depends on how you want to approach different things, but

584
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Speaker 5: ultimately it's a results based league. And like you said,

585
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Speaker 5: technology has changed a lot of it, and you can

586
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Speaker 5: even like, you know, I was talking to a couple

587
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Speaker 5: people behind the scenes about these people for the cults.

588
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Speaker 5: It's like, well, you know, even the guys who don't

589
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Speaker 5: test physically, we can still get their game film and

590
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Speaker 5: now they have companies that will tell you, Okay, what

591
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Speaker 5: they're projected forty yard dash time is based off of

592
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Speaker 5: their film, so things like that, well they will be

593
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Speaker 5: if you do not. There's it's a two way street,

594
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Speaker 5: like if you don't want to meet with these guys,

595
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Speaker 5: you can still get everything you want on them, at

596
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Speaker 5: least physically from that standpoint. So we'll see.

597
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Speaker 3: And again our world is largely turning into this. But

598
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Speaker 3: from an NFL standpoint, I think the analytic profile from

599
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Speaker 3: a physical testing standpoint is a big part of this week.

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Speaker 3: You know, we get in this debate every year off okay,

601
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Speaker 3: forty yard dash times and how much does that matter

602
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Speaker 3: blah blah blah bench press. Basically, I think a lot

603
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Speaker 3: of these teams now view the combine from a physical

604
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Speaker 3: testing standpoint, or even pro Day's coming up here late

605
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Speaker 3: in the spring and they say, all right, Jeff record,

606
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Speaker 3: you are six to two hundred and ten pounds, you

607
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Speaker 3: ran four or five, you bench press this, you broad

608
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Speaker 3: jump this, your three cone is this. We plug that

609
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Speaker 3: into a database and now we have what thirty nine

610
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Speaker 3: years of NFL combined history. We have compiled all the

611
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Speaker 3: profiles over those thirty nine years, and this is the

612
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Speaker 3: hit rate on players with your athletic profile. Now again

613
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Speaker 3: there's medical history, there's obviously personality history. There is certainly

614
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Speaker 3: you know football IQ that you get into these fifteen

615
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Speaker 3: minute meetings. But I think that is some of what

616
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Speaker 3: this week is about. Of like, your athletic makeup has

617
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Speaker 3: whatever an eighty eight percent hit rate or you know,

618
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Speaker 3: something along those lines. It's not the end all be all,

619
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Speaker 3: but it's another morsel of information. Obviously you have outliers.

620
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Speaker 3: Kenny Moore the second would be an absolute outlier in

621
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Speaker 3: the athletic profile. Di' Angelo Pons. You know we're gonna

622
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Speaker 3: have Dan Bugler join us here tomorrow on the show

623
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Speaker 3: live here on Radio ROW. I know he is a

624
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Speaker 3: huge d Angelo Pons guy. Even though from an athletic

625
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Speaker 3: profile standpoint, you probably don't see many five nine corners

626
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Speaker 3: be drafted in the first fifty or sixty picks. So

627
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Speaker 3: I think that's what this week is about. Yes, you

628
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 3: are again assembling some of these profiles, but also you

629
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Speaker 3: know there can be outliers to it, and oftentimes you

630
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Speaker 3: know guys that can hit on that can be huge

631
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Speaker 3: difference makers for teams.

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Speaker 4: You know, one of my good friends who's no longer

633
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Speaker 4: with us. Gil Brandt is really the guy that started

634
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Speaker 4: what you're talking about. Or he started at index characteristics

635
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Speaker 4: and traits and computerize things with the Dallas Cowboys as

636
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 4: far back as the late seventies and early eighties, and

637
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Speaker 4: now jump forward a few decades. Imagine how much more

638
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 4: technologically advanced things like that are.

639
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Speaker 6: It's kind of crazy when you think about it.

640
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Speaker 3: Oh sure, yeah, I mean it's I mean, to James's point,

641
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 3: you can literally project forty yard dash times by you know,

642
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 3: watching game film, and they're obviously companies that are out

643
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Speaker 3: there that are able to do it. One cult's note

644
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Speaker 3: from yesterday. You typically see this right around the start

645
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Speaker 3: of combine week. They did officially announce their coaching staff

646
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty six. We didn't expect much staff turnover.

647
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 3: We have seen very little. Defensive line coach Charlie Partridge.

648
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Speaker 3: I believe that was by choice. I think the Colts

649
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Speaker 3: wanted him back. He's got a lot of history in

650
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Speaker 3: the college game, so he went back to the college game.

651
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Speaker 3: Actually went to Notre Dame. He's familiar with their defensive coordinator,

652
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Speaker 3: Chris ash But James, that's it. Really from a notable standpoint,

653
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Speaker 3: A couple back into the roster guys, but a new

654
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Speaker 3: defensive line coach, but all their coordinators are back. Regi

655
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Speaker 3: Way now will be what year five for him as

656
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Speaker 3: wide receivers coach. You know he first started which talks

657
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: about being in you know, Miami, right on the beach.

658
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Speaker 3: He seems to like this, Yeah, definitely. So this has

659
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: kind of been par for the course with the Colts.

660
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Speaker 3: They really I mean obviously the Gus Bradley firing, but

661
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Speaker 3: they really haven't had a lot of staff turnover, coaching

662
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Speaker 3: staff or scouting staff. When you look at this tenure

663
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Speaker 3: when you want, if you want to label it the

664
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Speaker 3: playoff drought tenure, they have had a lot of retention.

665
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Speaker 3: I think you would see some franchise to some organizations

666
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: try to flip it over a little bit more, but

667
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Speaker 3: the Colts have not done that.

668
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Speaker 6: Really.

669
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Speaker 3: Their offensive staff has hardly been touched at all. Yeah,

670
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Speaker 3: in the Shane Steike and era. And it'll just be

671
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 3: a new d line coach and Marion Hobby this year.

672
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And he's got like a unique last couple of years.

673
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Speaker 5: He was actually with Luan Arumo for I believe four

674
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Speaker 5: or five seasons Cincinnati, so there's some connection there. But

675
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Speaker 5: after he left Cincinnati, he had gone to Tennessee last

676
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Speaker 5: year and then he got hired for joint to join Arkansas.

677
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Speaker 5: But then I want to say, that might have been

678
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Speaker 5: in November or December. And so even though he never

679
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Speaker 5: worked for Arkansas, he left to come to the NFL.

680
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Speaker 5: And I can't blame the man because whenever you get

681
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Speaker 5: a better offer, as I tell you all the time,

682
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Speaker 5: I'm a higher mercenary, baby, you take what you can

683
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Speaker 5: get is you know, as quick as you can get it.

684
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Speaker 5: So yeah, just to clear up a little bit of background,

685
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 5: people were saying like, well, wasn't he at this other school? Yes,

686
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Speaker 5: but that was only for a couple of months. So

687
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 5: he never actually coached a season at Arkansas before coming

688
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Speaker 5: over to join the Colts. And so we'll see if

689
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Speaker 5: he's able to along with adding some talented defensive line,

690
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Speaker 5: can he add some juice to that unit, because I

691
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 5: would say during the Charlie Partridge tenure, people might argue

692
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Speaker 5: and say, well, they took a step back, you know,

693
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Speaker 5: after moving on from Nate Ali. And so we'll see

694
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 5: how that shakes out here in the Vietna I'm excited

695
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 5: to meet Marion Hobby. Obviously, him being the D line coach,

696
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Speaker 5: he's gonna be under a microscope for sure.

697
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Speaker 3: Well, and we've had this debate before. I do not

698
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Speaker 3: view defensive line as a coaching issue room. I view

699
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Speaker 3: it as a personnel issue room, particularly defensive end.

700
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Speaker 5: I would agree there, but my only thing was saying, like,

701
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Speaker 5: you know how it goes. If that unit doesn't perform,

702
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Speaker 5: they're going to also look at the unit church or

703
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 5: whatever and say, well, what is this guy doing? Right?

704
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Speaker 3: And now again I think they wanted Charlie Partridge back.

705
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Speaker 3: So you know, this to me has been more of

706
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Speaker 3: a personnel You know, it's the continued missus by Chris

707
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: Boward at defensive end of the draft, et cetera, etc.

708
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Speaker 3: We've talked about it endlessly. That to me is more

709
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Speaker 3: of a you have not found the right guys because

710
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Speaker 3: you know, when you look at that defensive end room

711
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: and you think about some of those edge rushers, have

712
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Speaker 3: any of them gone onto other places and done anything right?

713
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 5: Right?

714
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Speaker 3: Right? I mean, there's no Jerry Hughes juniors in that

715
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Speaker 3: room where oh wow, that guy ended up being an

716
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: NFL player. You just couldn't figure it out here in

717
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Speaker 3: your own city with them.

718
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's interesting, James.

719
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Speaker 4: I want you to take us by in the scenes

720
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Speaker 4: a little bit because pretty much to your entire NFL

721
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Speaker 4: writing staff from the athletic from all over the country

722
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 4: is in town this week. Yeah, and there are various teams,

723
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Speaker 4: and I know you guys had a lot of, you know,

724
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Speaker 4: organizational meetings yesterday, probably a lot of business related.

725
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Speaker 6: And how we do this and how we do that.

726
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 4: But overall, in a year in which we have almost

727
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Speaker 4: a third of the league with brand new head coaches,

728
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Speaker 4: what was kind of the overting storyline in that room

729
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 4: yesterday when you guys were talking about what's coming up

730
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Speaker 4: in the NFL in twenty twenty six.

731
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Speaker 5: Yeah, there weren't a lot of crazy headlines, but one

732
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Speaker 5: of the ones was we talked about just the amount

733
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Speaker 5: of changes when it comes to, like you said, you

734
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Speaker 5: have to coaches, and so for teams have new coaches,

735
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Speaker 5: how do you establish that towarder relationship? And so obviously

736
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Speaker 5: you want to be here at the combine, You want

737
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 5: to be at the owner's meetings and talk to them there,

738
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Speaker 5: and you definitely want to try to get as much

739
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Speaker 5: FaceTime as possible with them and any other potential people

740
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Speaker 5: you might need in your circle. So that was the

741
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Speaker 5: most of the conversation outside of you know, things that

742
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Speaker 5: are born to our listeners when it comes to the

743
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Speaker 5: health of our business and I'm trying to stay employed.

744
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 5: So I was said, that's the main thing, and then

745
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 5: just speaking amongst ourselves, it's figuring out, okay, you know,

746
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Speaker 5: what is what is your beat, what's kind of the

747
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 5: big story on your thing, what's ours? And honestly, one

748
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 5: of the ones that came up for me you all

749
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 5: and we've talked about Daniel Jones and his free agency

750
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 5: and the only real competitor that I had really thought

751
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 5: of in free agency outside of the Colts was the

752
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 5: Vikings as far as trying to get him potentially on

753
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 5: their roster. And one of my buddies who covers the Steelers,

754
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 5: was like, wait, wait a second, like, you know, I

755
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 5: wonder if Steers will be interested in Daniel Jones. And

756
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, ah, like, I don't know. But that's the

757
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 5: thing that I can't just completely dismiss because if you

758
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 5: use the tag on Alec Pierce, for example, then in

759
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 5: theory that still leaves Daniel Jones open to meet with

760
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Speaker 5: other QB and needy teams, and the Pittsburgh Steelers wasn't

761
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Speaker 5: one that I had thought of. I still think that

762
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Speaker 5: it's probably more of a long shot than perhaps the Vikings,

763
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Speaker 5: But it is an interesting, you know thought that kind

764
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Speaker 5: of got popped into my brain yesterday.

765
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Speaker 4: You know, it's funny along those lines when you start

766
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Speaker 4: talking about the quarterback situation?

767
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Speaker 6: Am I wrong to think that?

768
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Speaker 4: It just feels like Daniel Jones and Shane Stikeen have

769
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: kind of found each other and they're just gonna figure

770
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Speaker 4: out a way to make it work one way or another.

771
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Speaker 4: The cults are gonna pay him, yeah, but more than anything,

772
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Speaker 4: they're gonna find a way to make that one work.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I actually agree with that, Jeff, because it sounds a

775
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 3: little too romantic for the NFL. Like it sounds like, ah, man,

776
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: this is a nice little marriage and they're gonna be

777
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Speaker 3: happy and shake hands. And even if the money maybe

778
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Speaker 3: doesn't meet the top of the you know, market value,

779
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Speaker 3: you know, everyone's gonna say, hey, we had a great

780
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 3: season last year, let's run this back. But I do

781
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: think that will be the end store you know, br

782
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Speaker 3: all accounts I believe Minnesota offered more money than Indy

783
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 3: last year. And what's transpired in the last twelve months. Well, yes,

784
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 3: Minnesota's quarterback situation has gotten more dire, so they will

785
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 3: have an urgency. But Daniel Jones resurrected his career where

786
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: here with Shane Styke. So I just I get that

787
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: money is money, is money is money, and Kevin Bowen

788
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: a is twenty twenty six And don't be naive and

789
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: look at college sports and it's largely Capitalism is everywhere.

790
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: But I do think as long as you can sniff

791
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Speaker 3: the proper ballpark for market value for Daniel Jones, I mean,

792
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Speaker 3: if you're Daniel Jones, you've made top ten pick money,

793
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 3: you signed a big extension with New York. As long

794
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Speaker 3: as it's not egregiously different, I would think he would

795
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: view Indy on and off the field. I think off

796
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: the field, the speed of this environment was much more

797
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 3: suited to him as well. Well, what do you mean, like,

798
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: I think that would be beneficial.

799
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 5: Just like La here feels like it too. But okay,

800
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 5: so here's my question.

801
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Speaker 3: By the way, did you see the hockey team celebrating

802
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 3: at eleven last night?

803
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 5: And I did see that in Miami, you should be

804
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 5: able to celebrate as long as you want to. You

805
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 5: do what they did.

806
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: You imagine what the crowd is like on a Monday

807
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 3: night at eleven.

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Speaker 6: Let's go.

809
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 5: So my question to follow up to that Kevin is

810
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 5: who has more leverage in this? Is it Daniel Jones

811
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 5: or the Colts.

812
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: I do think it's Daniel Jones because look at the depth,

813
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: which is interesting to say consider he's coming off now

814
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: and his injury history is what it is. Yeah, trust me,

815
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 3: But I would also agree. I think it's a fair question.

816
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would just say the lack of a

817
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: depth chart you know here, It'd be one thing if

818
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson. What if Anthony Richardson just had the year

819
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Speaker 3: that Riley Leonard had. I know that sounds stupid to say,

820
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 3: but let's just play that out. If he was healthy,

821
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: played a game and a half, looked. I mean, what

822
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Speaker 3: great would you give Ridley Leonard for last season? A

823
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 3: B B B plus.

824
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, give him the circumstances, nothing gonna be.

825
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: If you gave that great to Anthony Richardson, you might

826
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: think a little differently about that. Whereas you know Daniel

827
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Speaker 3: Jones's situation. You just don't have that at all with Richardson,

828
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 3: given obviously the freak I and I mean Anthony Richardson

829
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: completed one pass last year and that was to himself.

830
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Speaker 3: It was just amazing when you think about his third

831
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: NFL season, the most critical year for I would argue

832
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: any NFL player, particularly a quarterback, and you know he

833
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: plays what twelve snaps? Ten snaps? I don't know what

834
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: the final total was.

835
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Speaker 4: So here's the thing. It's interesting, had he been healthy,

836
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: do we ever see Philip Rivers.

837
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Speaker 5: No, I could tell you that, Yeah, there's no chance.

838
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 4: But my point is once he wasn't completely healthy though,

839
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 4: he kind of felt like he's never going to play

840
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: for the Colts again.

841
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a serious conversation, I would say, for sure.

842
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 5: I mean, the Philip Rivers thing was fun and crazy,

843
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 5: but there is a zero chance. I know people were

844
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 5: asking me that throughout the season, and I don't want

845
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 5: to make that very clear. If Anthony Riton had been healthy,

846
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 5: Philip Rivers is still on the couch somewhere. But if

847
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 5: we're a fifth, we'd all be a little ine rated

848
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 5: right now. So I will say this, speaking of Daniel,

849
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 5: so our guy over at the Athletic Daniel Popper, great dude,

850
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 5: covers the charges for us full time, but he also

851
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 5: is super into watching film and he does a big

852
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 5: list every year of the top one hundred and fifty

853
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 5: free agents. And we looked at it, I want to say,

854
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 5: a couple weeks ago here on the show, and he

855
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 5: has Daniel Jones in his projected contract to be two

856
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 5: years eighty eight million. So within that, obviously we can

857
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 5: do math forty four million dollars a year. It's a

858
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 5: high number, but I would lean, I would try my

859
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 5: best to lean towards a two year deal with this

860
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 5: guy to give myself the ability to.

861
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: I think definitely keep it guarantees, That's what I mean.

862
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 5: So I think, so I guess the backup little bit

863
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 5: for those listening when we see the number eventually, because

864
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 5: I do think they will resign Daniel Jones. So when

865
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 5: that happens and you see the big number, and cause

866
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 5: it's going to be big, I mean, I wouldn't be

867
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 5: surprised if he gets a three year, one hundred million

868
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 5: dollars deal. Honestly, Yeah, then we need to be and

869
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 5: I will, trust me, I'll be texting and doing all

870
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 5: this other stuff. What's the guarantees and when does it end?

871
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 5: Because I can almost assure you that if the coachs

872
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 5: know anything about what they're doing, which some people will

873
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 5: roll their eyes, you don't want to have any guarantees

874
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 5: past twenty twenty eight because you want to, at least

875
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 5: in my mind, if I am looking long term for

876
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 5: this team, and obviously I want success right now too,

877
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 5: but just realistically, I'm thinking, if we give this guy

878
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 5: a new contract, I need to be able to get

879
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 5: out of it by twenty twenty eight when we have

880
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 5: our first round pick back and we can just hit

881
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 5: a hard reset and none of this works. That's my thought.

882
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 4: How about this for worst case scenario, just as you

883
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 4: were saying that it went through me again PTSD of

884
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 4: looking at Daniel Jones getting hurt across the way here,

885
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 4: Let's say they sign him to a three year, one

886
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 4: hundred million dollar deal and they front loaded and they

887
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 4: put a bunch guarantees up front so they can get

888
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 4: out of it after two years. If he gets hurt

889
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 4: again this coming year, now you don't have a quarterback,

890
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 4: You still don't have a number one pick next year,

891
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: and it's gonna be twenty twenty eight before you can

892
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 4: really do all that much about it.

893
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 6: Is that scary?

894
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 5: How scary a decision they made when they got sauce?

895
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, preach, preach, preach, preach. It's exactly what I was

896
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: gonna say, James. This is this goes back to the

897
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: sauce gardener trade and why, in my opinion, Carlier say

898
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: Gordon should have been more hesitanting greenlighting that. I don't

899
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 3: think those sorts of situations. And again, given Daniel Jones'

900
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: injury history, this is not just a normal durable quarterback.

901
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: I mean the back of the baseball card you can't ignore.

902
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 3: I mean it's unfortunately been.

903
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 5: Seven years old the league one full season.

904
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. So that's the massive commitment you

905
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: made to not only Jones, but I think Colts Brass.

906
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 8: Yeah.

907
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean people are gonna you know, it is

908
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 3: wild to think here at you know, five thirty today,

909
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 3: it's gonna be year ten for Chris Ballard stepping up

910
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: there to the podium. And when you consider that that

911
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 3: resume so again five thirty day.

912
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 5: For Ballot or ten years ago you didn't have kids, right.

913
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 3: Four to thirty change stike in Yeah, no, hell not

914
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 3: I enough kids. Yeah, hell marked in four years ago

915
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 3: things have changed quite a bit.

916
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 8: Yeah so, but I do.

917
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 4: I also like to say this, just to be fair,

918
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 4: when they made that trade for Gardener, the team was

919
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 4: rolling right, and then I'll admit it, I was kind

920
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 4: of excited by that. I'm like, Okay, they feel like

921
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 4: they're doing well. They're leading the league in points, they're

922
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 4: leading the league yards. Finally went that offense is going there.

923
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 4: Let's shore up the defense and see if something can happen,

924
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 4: especially in the AFC South. So at the time I

925
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 4: see everything you're saying. But at the time, I'll be

926
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 4: honest with you, I was like, Okay, I'm up forward

927
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 4: with this. Let's see what happened.

928
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the whole short term gain versus long term reality.

929
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 8: What is in it?

930
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm sure there's some talent in that

931
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: eleven club last night for the USA hockey team that

932
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: looked pretty attractive to him. That one night could turn

933
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: into nine months of commitment, that could turn into eighteen

934
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 3: years of commitment.

935
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 4: If you follow me there, look at Kevin going, uh

936
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 4: uh going, You see the effect you have on Kevin Bowen.

937
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 6: Mark Decta do you see what you're doing.

938
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 5: The he's learned well, you know, keep your pants on

939
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 5: back there mark when you look at it.

940
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's exact apples to apples, but

941
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 3: both of our franchises here in our market, the two

942
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: big ones, they both made massive trades in the last

943
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 3: calendar year. They both traded multiple first round picks. I

944
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 3: would argue one franchise has earned the right to make

945
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 3: that trade and the other one is not.

946
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 6: Do you remember how you felt today that that that

947
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 6: the Sauce Gardener deal went down?

948
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I you know, I'd have to go back

949
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: and obviously pull out the audio. But I think Sauce

950
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: Gardner as an individual player is a great, great talent, certainly,

951
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 3: and he plays a premium position that the Coults have

952
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: struggled to find. But at the same time, when you

953
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 3: make a trade of that magnitude and Zubats will have

954
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: a similar amount of pressure on him. When you put

955
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 3: all your eggs into the one player bass get, there's

956
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 3: risk if that player has any sort of hiccup or flaw,

957
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 3: it's exposed times ten what you're sending away. If Ady

958
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 3: Mitchell becomes a great player, Jets obviously are very happy

959
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: about that. They also have two first round picks that

960
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: they could benefit from. You know, the Clippers, Benedic Mathins

961
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: had a really good start for him. They're obviously very

962
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 3: happy about that. They also have two first round picks

963
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: that could benefit then, whereas the Colts, it's all on Gardner,

964
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: the Pacers, it's all on Zobots. And so the moment

965
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 3: that that player whatever a struggles or again there's injury risk,

966
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: which unfortunate with Sauce that happened there. That I think

967
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 3: is what gets really exposed in these moves. So I

968
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: just don't think as a franchise you have earned the

969
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: right to sign off on a trade that guaranteed not

970
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 3: only your quarterback commitment. But again, James, you sat there

971
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: in the Carli Ers Gordon press conference at the end

972
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: of the season, she said that the fact that Chris

973
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: Ballard did the trade was a positive element in retaining him.

974
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 3: Just doing the trade, Well, think about that. If you're

975
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: Chris Bowen, You're sitting in your office and you're sitting

976
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: there saying, hey, if I just do this trade, that

977
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 3: means I'm gonna potentially keep my job more so than

978
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 3: if I don't do the trade. Of course I'm gonna

979
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 3: do the trade.

980
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 5: That to me is a little odd.

981
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then again a little bit of grace towards

982
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 4: the Colts, just to be fair here. Who can see

983
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 4: that Ward's gonna have his problems, Gardener's gonna get hurt,

984
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 4: the Forrest Buckner's gonna get hurt.

985
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 6: I mean, the list of injuries to guys.

986
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 4: If you had the list of five guys that absolutely

987
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 4: could not get hurt for the Colts, seems like all

988
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 4: five of those guys are the ones that got hurt.

989
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 6: That's crazy. What are the chances?

990
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, I Juju or Shimmer to do this.

991
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 6: Who's gonna ask the Juju question today? That's my question.

992
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 5: I mean, I'll go for it tomorrow on the show.

993
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 5: How about that? But the one quick dog, I know

994
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 5: we got to get to break here soon. My thinking

995
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 5: at the time of the Saw's Gardner trade was you

996
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 5: all just got your butts whooped in Pittsburgh.

997
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 8: I was there.

998
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 5: That was a horrible game. I want to say, Daniel

999
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 5: Jones had five turnovers himself, the team might had seven.

1000
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 5: And I was thinking to myself and I wrote it

1001
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 5: at the time, you're going all in it's exciting. I

1002
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 5: understand you haven't done this before, but there's a Jim

1003
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 5: Ersaid quote on paraphrasing here, but he was saying, once

1004
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 5: you find that quarterback, you're on that highway. You're on

1005
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 5: that for a while. And to me, before you made

1006
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 5: the Sauce Garden trade with the two first round picks,

1007
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 5: it was your last exit. Now, ain't no rest stops.

1008
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 5: You're rolling and you've hit your wagon to this guy.

1009
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 5: So I wrote that at the time, and I felt

1010
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 5: that at the time because I thought it was such

1011
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 5: a huge commitment. Granted it was one that again at

1012
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 5: the time, Jeff, yeh, they're rolling, they were playing the football.

1013
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 5: Chris Baalace says they were the top four team in

1014
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 5: the NFL. And then my counter that would be we

1015
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 5: could talk about it here on the other side is

1016
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 5: if you're a top four team, I get that you

1017
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 5: got injured, but how come you can't win a game.

1018
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 5: I'm not saying win multiple games, win a game to

1019
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 5: end the year, seventh trade losses. That's where I'm like, ah,

1020
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 5: like e it gets again. It's it's all nuanced, but yeah,

1021
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 5: there's a lot of context to be talked about here.

1022
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it gets back to the debate of again two

1023
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 3: months versus eight years. You know, what are you weighing here?

1024
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 3: Are you weighing the two month mirage or are you

1025
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 3: weighing eight years of evidence?

1026
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 5: And he told us it wasn't a mirage, So I'm like,

1027
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 5: all right, well then if it wasn't, then we better

1028
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 5: see some results immediately this year.

1029
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: And basically when you made that trade. You know, I

1030
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 3: don't know if these exact words were said that next day,

1031
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 3: but it's like that trade again, also said Daniel Jones,

1032
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: here's the quarterback keys through at least twenty twenty whatever

1033
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: seven if you want to play that card twenty twenty eight,

1034
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 3: you know, without your two first round picks and Chris

1035
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 3: Bollen and Shane Stiken, here are your continued keys to

1036
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 3: operate our franchise. Those are big, big commitments, more so

1037
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 3: than just Sauce Gardner as a player. Sauce Gardner, I

1038
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 3: think when healthy is a great player again at a

1039
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: premium position. He's twenty five years old on a reasonable contract.

1040
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 3: But it's more than just him, and I don't think

1041
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: that was fully explored.

1042
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 4: All right, Marrow on all this coming up a little

1043
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 4: bit later on we'll get some of the texts and

1044
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 4: feedback and questions you guys have for the Colts and

1045
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 4: the Combine as we will set up shop here and

1046
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 4: be here all week long downtown at the Convention Center.

1047
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: It's the Fan Morning Show with Kevin Mark back at

1048
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 4: the studio. James Boyd here on site, Engineer Cam. I'm Jeff.

1049
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 4: We'll continue in a moment. Ninety three five and one

1050
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 4: o seven five Fan, Good morning and walk come in

1051
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: to downtown Indianapolis. Is it already eight o'clock hour? We've

1052
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: been here for an hour already as we get ready

1053
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 4: to broadcast from the Combine all week long.

1054
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 6: Jake will be out here at noon today.

1055
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 4: John will be here from three to six, and at

1056
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 4: some point he will talk to Shane Steichen. Kevin, you

1057
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 4: said that we're we're confirmed with Chris Ballard at ninety

1058
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 4: five tomorrow morning?

1059
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 3: Right? I believe so? Yes, late in the show tomorrow

1060
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: for the Colts GM.

1061
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 5: All right, looking rapid fire questions? Maybe how how many

1062
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 5: of the Queen dating KB?

1063
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 6: How many of the questions?

1064
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 4: I will go long if we'll keep Chris Ballard as

1065
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 4: long as we need to, and we're not gonna cut

1066
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 4: Chris Ballard short to get into Clinton Yates.

1067
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 6: I can tell you that right now. So we'll do that.

1068
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 6: But Clinton Yates, Clinton's fine, but he's not relevant right now.

1069
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 5: I got all.

1070
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 4: I'm curious to find out kind of where Daniel Jones

1071
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 4: is right now, and are they looking for him to

1072
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 4: my health standpoint, or are they thinking that he's trending

1073
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 4: towards August. Is it going to be September, October is

1074
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 4: or My guess is they won't even say one way

1075
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 4: or the other at this point in time.

1076
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 5: So the conversation that we had with Daniel at the

1077
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 5: end of the year, he was very adamant about being

1078
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 5: ready for training camp in July. And honestly, for as

1079
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 5: crazy as Daniel Jones is, and I mean, they're in

1080
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 5: a good way, he's probably pushing to be back sooner

1081
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 5: than then. And I think that's when the team will

1082
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 5: probably step in and say, hey, let's just make sure

1083
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 5: we take this, you know, take our time, and you

1084
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 5: do have the entire offseason to get right, and so

1085
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 5: I think that's a big conversation to be had for sure.

1086
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 5: But yeah, obviously the progress he's had with his achilles

1087
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 5: is going to be a factor in just decision may

1088
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 5: going forward.

1089
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 4: How long do they give money Ward to kind of

1090
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 4: figure out what he wants to do. I would think

1091
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 4: they would give him a little bit of time of grace,

1092
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 4: but they also need to kind of know what they're

1093
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 4: gonna be doing.

1094
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say for a guy like Javarious Ward,

1095
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 5: you probably want an answer probably now. I would think

1096
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 5: that way. When you're going into the draft, you have

1097
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 5: an idea of what you need clearly, even if you

1098
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 5: know part of that is weighing the injury risk or

1099
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 5: the risk of re injury Kevin versus him retiring completely.

1100
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 5: So I know that. I think Stephen Holder reported yesterday,

1101
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 5: I believe for ESPN. By the way, Stephen Holder the

1102
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 5: old I'm stuck in Portugal, excuse not buying it? You're

1103
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 5: not buying it. I did see that. Yeah, I'm not

1104
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 5: so so I was very confused. But are you Are

1105
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 5: you mad at him for it?

1106
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 6: Yes?

1107
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 5: I am mad at him for it, And now explain why,

1108
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 5: Jeff and I'm not. I'm on a tangent. So I

1109
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 5: love Stephen Holder. He's been a great mentor to me

1110
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 5: in the journalism field. YadA YadA, YadA, get all the

1111
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 5: play start with the compliments. Just mean, okay, so let

1112
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 5: me rip him the guy. Yeah, oh sorry, I'm stuck in.

1113
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 5: You go post the picture of him in Portugal, and then, oh,

1114
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 5: by the way, here's a little couple of nuggets I've gathered.

1115
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 5: Just post the news. Just be a reporter. What are

1116
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 5: we modeling now?

1117
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 6: Like?

1118
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 5: Am I seeing you? You know, you little peako? You

1119
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 5: know and into warm weather? And he talked about he

1120
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 5: can't get back to the United States. Okay, I have

1121
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 5: a hard time finding my way back to so like

1122
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 5: the exactly exactly. So I just think that you know,

1123
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 5: he's he's he's gone Hollywood on us again. You know

1124
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 5: ESPN the TV guy at shut up for him to

1125
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 5: do all his stand ups and stuff in the media room.

1126
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,959
Speaker 5: This year we get him on the show. We gotta

1127
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 5: let him know. I don't appreciate they caught us all broke.

1128
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 5: So is he not showing up at all? No, he said,

1129
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 5: all you broke. He's like me and you you can

1130
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 5: go talk to Chris ballor I'll just skip out and

1131
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 5: let you know, let the big boys ESPN, Hndlet by.

1132
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 3: The way, was that cow bell in the background?

1133
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 6: It was We got the ESPN Cleveland, got the cop

1134
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 6: bell over there.

1135
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 3: Man, I thought that we were at a Mississippi State

1136
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 3: home game. I thought Chris Hagen was in the building here.

1137
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 3: It was a big third down. The Mississippi State fans

1138
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 3: are rising, uh.

1139
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 7: Every time they get a new quarterback on that Browns team.

1140
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 5: Mark lost the fastball.

1141
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 6: You get back to did you hear that?

1142
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 8: Mark? Yeah?

1143
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Getting back to to Holder being stuck in Portugal?

1144
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 4: Do you guys ever do that thing when you're on

1145
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,959
Speaker 4: a really cool vacation and there's always a day towards

1146
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 4: the end of the vacation You're like, how do I

1147
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 4: figure out how I can stay here for a lot longer?

1148
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 6: Well? You ever do that?

1149
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 5: We all do that, right, I'll explain my vacation. My

1150
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 5: vacation has always been.

1151
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 3: The thought of the execution a price different things.

1152
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 5: I was gonna say my vacations growing up were driving

1153
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 5: to Saint Louismont and you know, going downtown to the

1154
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 5: Rainforest Cafe with not a vacation. That that was how

1155
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 5: we ended every.

1156
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 3: Single week on downtown.

1157
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to stay overseas for an extra day,

1158
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 5: but I'm trying to stay in Rainforest Cafe for an

1159
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 5: extra hour.

1160
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, just went away. There used to be one in Chicago.

1161
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 6: One here.

1162
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 9: Sparkler on it.

1163
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, man, you might you might have

1164
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 5: a monkey or something swinging through your meal. It was great.

1165
00:50:58,520 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 6: It was it was theater.

1166
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 4: It's exactly I remember on our honeymoon, like the last

1167
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 4: day my wife. I could tell the mood had changed

1168
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 4: this a little bit. She was kind of sad and

1169
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 4: it wasn't working out. And it turned out she is

1170
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 4: there a way we could stay one more day.

1171
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 6: So we did. Yeah.

1172
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 5: See that never happened in my world. Like you better

1173
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 5: pack them bags. We go on as playing and were

1174
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 5: going to be back to reality tomorrow.

1175
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 3: I got a little nervous when you said the mood

1176
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 3: was changing on the honeymoon. Oh no, boy, can we

1177
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 3: move on to something else?

1178
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 6: No? She And then as soon as we decided to

1179
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 6: stay one more night, everything was great again. There he

1180
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 6: was a good deal.

1181
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:28,479
Speaker 5: James.

1182
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: Did you ever come across Ryan Carr at all in

1183
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 3: your time covering the page?

1184
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 6: Did? I? Did?

1185
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 5: We actually follow each other on Twitter?

1186
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 8: So we go.

1187
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a good dude, and I believe he's now

1188
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 5: going over to IU and a pretty big role there.

1189
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 5: But yeah, very nice guy and very beloved by the

1190
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 5: Pacers for sure.

1191
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never heard a bad thing about him. Yeah,

1192
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 3: he's going to be the executive director of basketball. And

1193
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 3: again we've seen this really with college football and college

1194
00:51:55,640 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 3: basketball teams hiring pseudo gms. And I'm always curious, Okay,

1195
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 3: who's reporting to who?

1196
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 10: You know?

1197
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 3: Like Andrew Luck? For example, out in Stanford, the athletic

1198
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: director has hired Andrew Luck to oversee the football program,

1199
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 3: Whereas in this instance here Ryan Carr is now reporting

1200
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 3: to Darren Devrez. Darren DeVries is still the top lieutenant,

1201
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: if you will, and Ryan Carr is underneath him. Now,

1202
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 3: it sounds like Ryan will obviously be a key, key

1203
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 3: figure and putting together a roster, and obviously they will

1204
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 3: rely on his ample connections around probably the agent world

1205
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 3: more than anything. And I assume you know a little

1206
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 3: bit internationally, Not that the Pacers have had a rich

1207
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 3: history drafting international guys, but still a little bit of that.

1208
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 3: And I am reminded you know a little bit about Butler.

1209
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: For example, they hired a GM this past year from

1210
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 3: the Milwaukee Bucks. I think it's similar to Ryan Carr

1211
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: and kind of like where he was within the Bucks organization,

1212
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: and by all accounts, that guy and his connection was

1213
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 3: critical to establishing an initial contact with Michael Ljaie, who

1214
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 3: they ended up getting. So I think you know a

1215
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 3: little bit behind the scenes of exactly what Ryan Carr

1216
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 3: could do for Darren Devrees. I think it's that aspect

1217
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 3: of it, of like, you have some connections, probably more

1218
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 3: in the agent world than anything around the basketball world. Yeah,

1219
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 3: and that can help you get whatever initial conversation started,

1220
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 3: because let's be honest, these agents are starting. Hell they're

1221
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 3: starting at the high school level now, Oh absolutely with

1222
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 3: these prospects. So you know, again it's an interesting hire

1223
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 3: obviously a year end of the Darren Debrees cycle, where

1224
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 3: I think it's fair to say again it's year one.

1225
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 3: But however much money the IU roster has eight nine

1226
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: ten million in it, I don't think it was money

1227
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 3: well spent and assembling that roster. So you know, I'll

1228
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 3: be very curious to see what now the makeups look

1229
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 3: like moving forward for Indiana men's basketball.

1230
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 5: You're trying to get Granted Jake to hire me as

1231
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 5: their representation when it comes to negotiating with Pops. I

1232
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 5: remember you told me one of your sons for what

1233
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 5: was it for his birthday? His sixteenth birthday. He's asking

1234
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 5: for a cake and I'm like, you gotta be asking

1235
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 5: for a car man, Like, what are you doing here?

1236
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 4: Yesterday for the first time said hey, is okay if

1237
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 4: I've go out and get a job, Like yeah, just

1238
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 4: the wrong thing.

1239
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 6: Nah.

1240
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 5: See he got to talk to you, boy, told to

1241
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 5: be asking for your pops to just be you the money.

1242
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 5: We don't have to work for it.

1243
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, my kids are suffering, believe me. Okay, you know.

1244
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 4: Getting back to Ryan Carr, if you have a chance,

1245
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 4: at the very beginning of Jake Show yesterday, go back

1246
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 4: and listen to it on the website at one O

1247
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 4: seven five fan dot com. He tells some great stories

1248
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 4: about Ryan Carr when he was in school and how

1249
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 4: dedicated he was to film and being involved on a

1250
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 4: you know, on a very tangential basis with the Indiana

1251
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 4: basketball program then, and just how he was devoted to

1252
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 4: it even at that point in time, and the hours

1253
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 4: he would spend doing that as opposed to going out

1254
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 4: with the rest of the folks and being a college

1255
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 4: kid and stuff like that. I thought it was really

1256
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 4: illuminating five seven minutes from Jake yesterday about Ryan Carr

1257
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 4: and if you're interested in this at all, I think

1258
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 4: it'd be well worth your while. I think you'd love it, Kevin,

1259
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 4: to go back and kind of listen to that if

1260
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 4: you missed it yesterday, it was really.

1261
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 3: Yeah again a manager in the night era there in

1262
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 3: the early to mid nineties, and you know, obviously beloved

1263
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 3: in terms of his alma mater, clearly wanted to go

1264
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 3: back there. And then it's been at the Pacers for

1265
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 3: two decades and you know, very well thought of with

1266
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 3: that organization. And just remind everybody the Indiana roster will

1267
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 3: turn over majorly next year. Again. I mean, Wilkerson is

1268
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 3: out of eligibility, Tucker Devrees is out of eligibility, san

1269
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 3: At alexis.

1270
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 5: Out of eligibility.

1271
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 3: I think connor en right, I think taking Connorway maybe

1272
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 3: even read Bailey. I mean, it's going to be a roster.

1273
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 3: It's going to turn over big time here. So and

1274
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: it sounds like this is immediate. So obviously the Pacers

1275
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: from a draft standpoint, will you know, I have a

1276
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: little bit of a new flare to it here coming

1277
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 3: up this summer and it'll be a busy few weeks

1278
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 3: here as IU tries to get a new roster, a

1279
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 3: better roster, more deep roster, everyone to define it here.

1280
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 3: Coming up for Darren Devrees here too.

1281
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 4: And while we're talking about the Indiana you mentioned this

1282
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 4: in the last hour when we did the checkdown. This

1283
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 4: is a big game for them at home against Northwestern tonight,

1284
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 4: which sounds it's crazy to say that there's a big

1285
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 4: game against Northwestern, but for Indiana, given recent history, given

1286
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 4: what they want to accomplish this year, and where they've

1287
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 4: been trending the last couple of weeks, this is a

1288
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 4: big game for them tonight.

1289
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 3: Kevin, Yeah, it's a can't lose game. Northwestern is not good.

1290
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 3: This would be an ugly stain on your resume. You know,

1291
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 3: you already have kind of one of them with the

1292
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 3: Minnesota game. Now, the granted that was on the road,

1293
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 3: but this would be Yeah, this would be not good

1294
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 3: at all. And I would argue you still need a

1295
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 3: notable win to bolster the resume. Again, I use two

1296
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 3: to ten in Quad one games. That's easily the biggest

1297
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 3: knock on their resume because they have so many opportunities

1298
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 3: when you play in the Big ten seemingly every other

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00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 3: night is a quad one opportunity in Indiana hasn't been

1300
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 3: able to take advantage outside of what Purdue and at UCLA.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, this is a game where you can't lose.

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Speaker 3: Just remind everybody. Tray Singleton from Jeffersonville. Last year he

1303
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 3: starts for Northwestern and it's had a nice freshman season

1304
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 3: for them.

1305
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 5: Stay championship last year be at the time, great Stay Final.

1306
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 3: Unbelievable game that was so eight and a half, nine

1307
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 3: and a half point favorite. And yeah, the history against

1308
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 3: Northwestern well documented. Bob Knight was fifty and three against

1309
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 3: the Wildcats. And somehow Chris Collins has won five straight

1310
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 3: against Indiana.

1311
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 5: Whooped those nerds. I couldn't get into that school. I

1312
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 5: thought I was a good student too. Didn't work out

1313
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 5: what they say, just no no things. What they say

1314
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 5: you never heard back. There's your answer if you're on

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Speaker 5: the paint on my list.

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00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was.

1317
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,959
Speaker 5: About to say, Mark, you sent a girl text message, Hills,

1318
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 5: you don't get back to you.

1319
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 3: You got your answer right there. You get three bubbles.

1320
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 6: Man. I was reading this story of the to Day.

1321
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 4: Some guy got rejected from Harvard and you got a

1322
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 4: rejection letter, So he sent them a rejection letter of

1323
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 4: their rejection letter, and they ended up putting him on

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Speaker 4: the wait list.

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Speaker 3: Okay, by the last sault, Harvard James, did you see

1326
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 3: the So the Colts have got a new what do

1327
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 3: you call it? You know, game day nerd in the

1328
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 3: year of Shane Styking, you know, the guy that tells

1329
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 3: Shane when to go for it and all that game manager? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1330
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 3: I saw he's trying to get his Masters from Harvard

1331
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: right now, I did. He's an Earlham grad. Shout out

1332
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 3: to Arlam.

1333
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 6: Where's Earlam at?

1334
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 3: I think we have Matt Taylor in the building. And

1335
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 3: you know, Matt Taylor is you know right now orchestrated

1336
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 3: in Indiana Trivia? Here? Matt? Where are we at?

1337
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 11: Next?

1338
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 3: Dugout right? Little Fountain Square establishment? Matt Taylor Earlham University's

1339
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 3: where is it? Richmond?

1340
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 6: Richmond? I did not know where Arlam was.

1341
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 3: The Elam Quakers, how about that? Are we still going

1342
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 3: to the Plainfield Quakers? Where are.

1343
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 5: I have been to playing field?

1344
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 3: Shout out to Plainfield Quakers. I saw Plainfield and Pike

1345
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 3: in the semi finals.

1346
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 5: Okay, we got a Plainfield direction.

1347
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 6: Shout out to NYM does all of our social media.

1348
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Speaker 5: With the gym that nice when you were in school,

1349
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 5: because that place is amazing. I went there and they

1350
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 5: got some money over here boy, and again.

1351
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 3: That's a digital manager that that boy Sectional draw that

1352
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 3: that's probably the marquee matchup after that Friday. You got

1353
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,919
Speaker 3: to you know, Pike and Plainfield. I don't believe they've

1354
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 3: played yet this season. So you talk about a team

1355
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 3: that could represent the South in the four A bracket,

1356
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 3: one of those teams certainly could. Uh.

1357
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Speaker 4: That's what's happening from here at the Combine right now.

1358
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 4: We're gonna be here all day long again. Later on

1359
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Speaker 4: today Shane Steichen and Chris Ballard will meet with the

1360
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 4: media in general, but Shane Stikeen will be on John

1361
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Speaker 4: Show at some point today between three and six, and

1362
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 4: then we will have Chris Ballard late in our show tomorrow,

1363
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 4: probably around nine to forty five, so make sure you

1364
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Speaker 4: pay attention to listen to that one as well.

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Speaker 6: Having said all of that, Mark, let's check it down.

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Speaker 4: Obviously at the combine and while we wait to hear

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Speaker 4: from Shane Stike and Chris Ballard as I mentioned a

1372
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Speaker 4: moment ago, league wide, division wide, James, what are you

1373
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 4: interested in finding out this week? What are some of

1374
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 4: the things that are on your mind other than just

1375
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 4: the obvious Colts questions.

1376
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Speaker 5: Oh that's a good question, Jeff, because you're so tunnel

1377
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 5: vision when it comes to the Colts. But honestly, I

1378
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 5: wonder from Robert Sala, you know, if he's available this week,

1379
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 5: what is he saying about his vision for the Titans?

1380
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Speaker 5: And again I asked you a couple of weeks ago,

1381
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 5: maybe about a month ago, when he got hired, how

1382
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 5: would you rank the coaches in the division and right now?

1383
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 5: I would probably put them at the bottom just because

1384
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 5: where his team is, but how quickly can he turn

1385
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 5: it around? In Tennessee?

1386
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 6: How would you rank the coaches in the ANFC South

1387
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 6: right now?

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01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 5: Oh boy, I would have probably go with Demiico Ryans

1389
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Speaker 5: number one, Liam Cohen number two, Styching number three, and

1390
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Speaker 5: then Solid number four, just because he's the new guy

1391
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 5: of the quartet.

1392
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Speaker 6: How would you do that, Kevin?

1393
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 3: Sorry, I was moving Kayln Taylor around. She's got to

1394
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 3: move a little bit time wise. Give that to me again.

1395
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Speaker 6: Top four ranked the four coaches in the AFC South.

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01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 3: Uh what he got? Cohen Ryan's Stichens Sala Salo Yeah

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Speaker 3: that order? Yeah, and then I mean, I guess I

1398
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 3: don't know. You're splitting hairs a little bit there. Demiko

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01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 3: Ryans obviously has had a great three years in terms

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Speaker 3: of making the playoffs each year. I am intrigued by

1401
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 3: Liam Cohen, a little bill Jacksonville to have the season

1402
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 3: they had, and I think they also had some injuries,

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01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 3: you know, particularly Travis Hunter there. But yeah, I don't

1404
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 3: think it's that think of him difference.

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Speaker 8: All right.

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01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 4: The Colts have five new coaches that they've announced to

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01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 4: Marion A. Hobby as the new defensive line coach. What

1408
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 4: do we know about him?

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Speaker 5: He was with Leuen Arumo in Cincinnati for I believe

1410
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 5: four seasons, so very familiar there, and then he had

1411
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 5: been with Tennessee last year and the college ranks got

1412
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 5: hired to be Arkansas's d line coach. I believe back

1413
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 5: in November December of last year, but before he could

1414
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 5: even do a full season with them were a game,

1415
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 5: he left to come to join the Colts and rejoin Luenarumo.

1416
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 5: So there's a familiar familiarity and some overlap there, and

1417
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 5: we'll see if he's able to you know, revamp or

1418
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 5: regive some juice to that defensive line that also needs,

1419
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 5: to Kevin's point earlier in the show, a lot of

1420
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 5: talent added as well, all right.

1421
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 4: Two defensive quality control coaches also added to the roster,

1422
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Speaker 4: a game management coordinator that you talked about a moment ago, Kevin,

1423
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 4: and a strengthened conditioning assistant to round out Shane Stikeen's staff.

1424
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Speaker 5: Got a holler at your boy, man, I'm still the

1425
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 5: same size. I wasn't high school.

1426
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Speaker 6: Not good.

1427
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Speaker 5: I ain't touched the waits, just did Kevin. I was

1428
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 5: on a board in high school and they had all

1429
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 5: the people up there with all the you know, the

1430
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 5: weightlifting kings. I was up there for GPA baby.

1431
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 4: Other than basketball on Sundays with JAMV. What's your workout regimen?

1432
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 5: Oh, that's it.

1433
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 3: Going to mess with success?

1434
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean, hey, it's low impact, you know, and

1435
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 5: I get to talk about trash. Yeah, we played basketball,

1436
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 5: that's all it is.

1437
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 6: You're young, athletic. Go get it, man, stay that way,

1438
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 6: let's go.

1439
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 5: I ain't touching no weights though.

1440
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 3: All right. Uh.

1441
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 4: Later on tonight, the Fieldhouse will host the Philadelphia seventy

1442
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 4: six ers in town to take on the Indiana Pacers.

1443
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 4: Bad news for the Pacers again on the injury front,

1444
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 4: it just never stops. Now we have a risk problem

1445
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 4: for Pascal Siakam, Kevin what do we know about this?

1446
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Listen is doubtful for tonight, so that's obviously never

1447
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 3: a good sign. So, you know, Pascal did get back

1448
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 3: to playing. You know, it was a hamstring which he

1449
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 3: sat out the first couple of games here coming back

1450
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 3: from the All Star break, but then did play and

1451
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 3: played in the fourth quarter, which you know, obviously we've

1452
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 3: had some questions with teams in the reverse standings if

1453
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 3: they're doing that, and the Pacers clearly did that the

1454
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 3: other night. So Siakam played and played very well. But yeah,

1455
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 3: risk issue for him. So we'll see Aaronie Smith out

1456
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 3: I believe it. Carl already said likely to miss this

1457
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 3: entire week. Andrew Nemhar Listen is questionable again, a Viatza

1458
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 3: Zubats still out. So for those in attendance tonight, maybe

1459
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 3: you'll see what Joel embiid. But obviously it'll be a

1460
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 3: lot of the reserves.

1461
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you take a look at that list,

1462
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 6: It just goes on and on and on.

1463
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 4: You could have a legitimate NBA competitive roster with just

1464
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 4: the guys that are on the injury list for the

1465
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 4: Pacers right now. Oh, you got a playoff team, man, right, crazy? Yeah,

1466
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 4: it's insane what they have out there right now. All right,

1467
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 4: So that one starts you at seven o'clock tonight, six

1468
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Speaker 4: thirty gets you underway here at ninety three five and

1469
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 4: one o seven to five the fan. With our coverage

1470
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 4: there Pacers and Sixers, we can also tell you college

1471
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 4: basketball tonight, Northwestern will be in Bloomington to play Indiana.

1472
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 4: The Hoosiers seventeen and ten, eight and eight in conference play.

1473
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 4: But what's the recent history against Northwestern.

1474
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 3: Northwestern's won five in a row over Indiana. Now, this

1475
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,919
Speaker 3: is a Northwestern team that has really struggled this season.

1476
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 3: They do have Nick Martinelli, who's one of the better

1477
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 3: scores in the entire Big Ten, but that's really it. So, yeah,

1478
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 3: this is a game just can't lose. When you're hovering

1479
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 3: around the bubble this time of year, typically you need

1480
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 3: to steal one. And you also are going to have

1481
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 3: these games that pop up that are just can't lose

1482
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 3: type of games, and this would be one of them.

1483
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 8: Here.

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01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 3: So yes, home to Northwestern eight and a half nine

1485
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 3: and a half point favorite Indiana tonight.

1486
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 4: The celebration continues for Team USA men's hockey team. They

1487
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 4: were re routed from going back home through New York

1488
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 4: because of that major storm yesterday. They went to Miami.

1489
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 4: And what did I see on social media last night

1490
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 4: with this men's hockey team? James Boyd tell us a

1491
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 4: little bit more about what you say.

1492
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 5: We actually did not see much of this. You guys

1493
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 5: got to fill me in.

1494
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, look like they're partying at eleven, one of the

1495
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 3: infamous clubs there down in South Beach. I was just

1496
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 3: hung over watching them party.

1497
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 5: Did you see the Now it's gonna be a sweating liquor.

1498
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 6: So many classic photos coming out of this.

1499
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 4: There's one now if Jack Hughes missing his front tooth

1500
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 4: or most of his front tooth biting down on the

1501
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 4: gold medal, that that was a sick picture. That is

1502
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 4: that you're just legend from the picture right now.

1503
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 5: How quickly do you get your teeth fixed? The party first?

1504
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 5: They you know, is it a week later?

1505
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 6: Is it a month?

1506
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 11: Like?

1507
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 5: Or do you just hey, I gotta we were like.

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Speaker 5: It's a back character.

1509
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Speaker 3: Those hockey guys, they might rock out of the rest

1510
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 3: of their lives. Man, Man, you're right, they're a different breed.

1511
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 3: You tell them talking about marketing for Jack Hughes the

1512
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:53,919
Speaker 3: rest of his life.

1513
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 4: Think about think about the difference here between load management

1514
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 4: in the NBA and the way hockey players just don't

1515
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 4: miss a.

1516
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 6: Shift, don't even miss a shift.

1517
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 5: Build different.

1518
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 4: I meant, we've got load management on back to backs

1519
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 4: and you got guys now, granted it's the gold medal game,

1520
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 4: but it's kind of that way in hockey all the time.

1521
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 6: I see all the time.

1522
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 4: Guys get cut open, they go back, they get six stitches,

1523
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 4: they come back, and they're ready to go as.

1524
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:22,959
Speaker 6: Soon as they can get back on the ice.

1525
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 3: Special breed.

1526
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 6: Love it. I love it. I love it. Anything else

1527
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 6: you guys want to throw in before we I will

1528
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 6: say this real quick.

1529
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 5: From the NFL, they just announced that Detroit the Lions

1530
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 5: will be playing overseas in Munich, Germany, so I believe

1531
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 5: that's maybe nine or ten overseas games this year for

1532
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 5: the NFL. So they're really trying to expand.

1533
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 6: Is this an extra one or is this nine? I

1534
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 6: know that there's nine, but.

1535
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 5: Again I said nine or ten. I feel free to

1536
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 5: count me out, Jeff. But point is that they really

1537
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,439
Speaker 5: are trying to expand their global reach to the rest

1538
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 5: of the world, and it seems like, as we've talked about, Kevin,

1539
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 5: it's going to get more and more and more as

1540
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 5: we move forward. I think they do want to trend

1541
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 5: towards every team having an overseas game at least one.

1542
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 3: Don't believe the Colts played the Lions next season. There

1543
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 3: are a couple of international home opponents that have already

1544
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 3: been announced that the Colts do play, so you know,

1545
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 3: we'll obviously keep an eye out for that. After the

1546
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 3: Colts just played in Germany last year. Of course, that's

1547
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 3: some of their marketing rights, so that's why I bring

1548
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 3: that up in regards to the Colts.

1549
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 5: There there is a Detroit Lions bar in Germany. Walk

1550
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 5: past look at that and Berlin, so you know, Saint

1551
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 5: Brown's is Germans, So he's got some love over there.

1552
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell, Doss boot over there.

1553
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 6: Barry Sanders poster up on the back.

1554
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 3: Hey, he's a legend, probably the best ever, right reminder,

1555
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 3: Chris Ballard five thirty today, Shane Stike and four thirty

1556
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 3: and Jeff you said Shane will be on with JMV

1557
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 3: later at.

1558
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 6: Some point today. That's the plan.

1559
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's that's open to change as well. So

1560
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 4: a lot of great stuff coming on, you know. In

1561
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 4: terms of the international games too. I keep hearing from

1562
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 4: all my friends like at NFL Radio and stuff like that.

1563
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 4: Eventually the league wants to get to like sixteen or

1564
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 4: seventeen international games where they have one every week with apps.

1565
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 4: Maybe not the last one because they like to play

1566
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 4: everybody you know, on that last day and not have

1567
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 4: a Monday night game or anything like that. But I

1568
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised if in the next five years we

1569
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 4: see at least sixteen games internationally, one every week.

1570
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1571
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 3: It does seem like it's certainly trending in that direction.

1572
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, So that's what's happening in the in

1573
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 4: the world of sports right now. We continue to come

1574
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 4: your way from the Indianapolis Convention Center.

1575
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 6: A little bit of a different setup for the Combine

1576
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 6: this year. I kind of like the way they've done

1577
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 6: it this year as opposed to last year.

1578
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 3: Any thoughts, Yeah, we're all kind of, I guess, in

1579
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 3: one room with the podiums and the radio row here.

1580
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 3: If you can see on our YouTube screen, you can

1581
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 3: see a little bit of the background play starting to

1582
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 3: fill up. You know, we're one of what probably sixty

1583
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 3: yeah stations and shows and teams that are here on

1584
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 3: radio row. The podiums are on the other side of

1585
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 3: some curtains here, and gms will start to talk around

1586
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 3: ten am today. It's mostly gms and head coaches today,

1587
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 3: and then you'll get prospects starting to meet the media

1588
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 3: coming up tomorrow. Aiden Fisher one of those prospects would

1589
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 3: begin with the linemen or the linebackers, I should say,

1590
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,440
Speaker 3: in the defensive lineman coming up Manyana.

1591
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1592
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 4: I like, look, Aiden Fisher, unbelievable college player. How do

1593
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 4: you think he projects into the NFL.

1594
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 3: Up by day three pick?

1595
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1596
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 6: But is the a guy you think that they could

1597
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 6: stick on a team and play for a couple of years.

1598
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably at some point the heart of.

1599
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 4: That guy just insane. I would think a team would

1600
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 4: feel lucky to get him on day.

1601
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1602
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 3: I think he'll definitely you know, I would assume be

1603
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 3: a core special teamer and who knows, you know, Colts

1604
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 3: of a need at linebacker. Could they dabble a little

1605
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 3: bit into Aiden Fisher?

1606
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw.

1607
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 4: I was looking at Nathan Brown's first mock draft this morning.

1608
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 4: He had them getting Omar Cooper after a little bit

1609
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 4: of shifting and trading with other teams and stuff in

1610
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 4: the middle of the second round, which would be kind

1611
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 4: of interesting.

1612
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 6: Wow.

1613
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said, to kind of take the place of

1614
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 4: a departing Michael Pittman junior.

1615
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 3: Interesting, two different skill sets, I would say, with Omar

1616
01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 3: Cooper junior and Michael Pittman junior and you know we'll

1617
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 3: have Dan Brigler, James your colleague go one tomorrow, I

1618
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 3: would say he would probably be one that says Omark

1619
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 3: Cooper Junior ain't getting the forty seven if if.

1620
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 6: That's I think he's a first round guy myself.

1621
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 3: First, Dana's viewed him very highly. Yeah, I believe even

1622
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 3: in the top thirty there so will be good to

1623
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 3: one to throw his way coming up tomorrow when he

1624
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 3: joins us. Mark, do we have a time for Dan

1625
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 3: Briggler tomorrow?

1626
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 6: Not yet.

1627
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 9: I'm gon nail it down later today.

1628
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 3: I know we got ballad a round out the show.

1629
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 3: I think tomorrow ninety.

1630
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 5: Don't worry, Mark, I'll be here at six fifty nine.

1631
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 9: I know you will.

1632
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 5: I wonder what time I pull up? Another question though, yea,

1633
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 5: So we have been talking a lot about the tag

1634
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 5: and Alec Pearson. Why I would think most of us

1635
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 5: here on the show would agree that he should probably

1636
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 5: be be franchise tagged more than Daniel Jones. My question is,

1637
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 5: is Alec Pierce a number one receiver? And does it

1638
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 5: concern you that when you give him that sort of

1639
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 5: money that he would be your top guy. You can

1640
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 5: get other guys to help, you know, Phil and Rolls

1641
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,799
Speaker 5: and things like that, but one year of big production,

1642
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 5: how do you feel about that commitment? I think you

1643
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 5: kind of have to make it. But going forward, he's

1644
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 5: your number one receiver. Are we feeling like, ah, man,

1645
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 5: is he good enough to be a number war receiver?

1646
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 5: Is he has he arrived yet? Thoughts?

1647
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 8: Please?

1648
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 4: I like it and I'll tell you what it on

1649
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 4: the other side. Yeah, let's we can tease that. So

1650
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 4: I've got a lot of things to say about that.

1651
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm cool with that.

1652
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 6: We can do that.

1653
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 4: You can also be involved in the conversation two three

1654
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 4: nine ten seventy. We'll check out some of the things

1655
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 4: for the first time today on the text line. You

1656
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 4: can also give us a call. We'll be more than

1657
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 4: happy to talk to you there three ninety ten seventy.

1658
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 4: It's all coming your way for the next several days

1659
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 4: right here live from the Combine, downtown Indianapolis at ninety

1660
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 4: three to five.

1661
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 2: And don't stop, don't stop, don't stop, Live from the

1662
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 2: NFL Combine in downtown indian You were listening to the

1663
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 2: Fan Morning show.

1664
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 3: Ah, we are live here in the convention Center. This

1665
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 3: place is starting to come to life, to say the least.

1666
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 3: Chris Ballard gonna speak to the media five thirty later

1667
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 3: today Shane Styke in at four thirty. I believe Shane

1668
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 3: will be joining JMV live here on Radio Row. We

1669
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 3: are planning to have Chris Ballard to join us late

1670
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 3: in tomorrow's show, so that'll be the plan there for

1671
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 3: us for Carlisle scheduled here in about an hour, so KB.

1672
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 5: I'm seeing everyone put up there big. You know, I

1673
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 5: don't know how to describe like backdrops. Yeah, so when

1674
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 5: are we getting to? Kevin Bowen cut out just to just.

1675
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 6: To You're gonna put it up at Lucas Oil.

1676
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 5: It's like we can we like just stick that that

1677
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 5: that'll be our landmark. People didn't need to before and

1678
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 5: after exactly exactly you know what I mean?

1679
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 3: Brother, Yeah, we're gonna.

1680
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 6: Put that up over a Lucas Oil. What are you

1681
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 6: talking about?

1682
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 3: I was nervous that you were gonna be a little

1683
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 3: running late with the coffee. I saw you're running with

1684
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 3: the coffee over there. I thought that was a no, no,

1685
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 3: are we good?

1686
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 4: We're good man, I'm good to go. Got the warm

1687
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 4: cup of Joe. Had to get some coffee. I haven't

1688
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 4: had that yet today. You you had the great question

1689
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 4: a little while ago.

1690
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 5: J is Alec Pierce a number one receiver because he's

1691
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 5: gonna get paid like one, and if he does get

1692
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 5: paid like one, presumably with the Colts, how do you

1693
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 5: feel about that?

1694
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1695
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 3: You know, the whole definition of a number one wide out,

1696
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 3: I think is always a very polarizing thing. Are there

1697
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 3: just thirty two number one whiteouts. Is that how we

1698
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 3: do it? Each team has one of them?

1699
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 5: Or is that not a thing?

1700
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 8: Can? Well?

1701
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 3: I interpret like you have multiple Number one.

1702
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 5: He's your number one receiver? Are you okay with that?

1703
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1704
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 5: You okay with him being your top guy? Because when

1705
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 5: I'm on the scouting report and I'm the Jaguars, He's

1706
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 5: the top guy on the list, I'm saying, I gotta

1707
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 5: slow down.

1708
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1709
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 3: Again, to me, he possesses the hardest wide receiver trait

1710
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 3: to find. In today's NFL, defenses are doing everything and

1711
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 3: anything they can to take away big plays. And Pierce

1712
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 3: has shown in his NFL care no matter who the

1713
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 3: quarterback is, and he's had some bad quarterbacks, that he

1714
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 3: can be a consistent big play maker. And I think

1715
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 3: that is really really covet and I think that is

1716
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:11,759
Speaker 3: worth the price tag. If you want to be Devil's

1717
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 3: advocate and say he's not worth that, all right, walk

1718
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 3: me through what the wide receiver position is gonna look

1719
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 3: like then, because.

1720
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 5: I I I agree.

1721
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 3: I just think it's interesting, like, now, does he does

1722
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 3: he catch eight balls a game?

1723
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 6: You know?

1724
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:23,640
Speaker 5: Is he that type of right now?

1725
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 3: No, he's not. I did think he showed some growth

1726
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 3: in year four outside of just being a home run hitter,

1727
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 3: which I think is important to point out of, Like,

1728
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 3: you know, when you drafted him, there was a thought

1729
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 3: there of you are banking on some development with him.

1730
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 3: You know, at Cincinnati he really was you know, he

1731
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 3: played defense early in his career, Marcus Freeman was a

1732
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. He wanted Alex Piers playing defense with them.

1733
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 5: Mark guy notorious. He knows nothing about football, but I'll

1734
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 5: let continue.

1735
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 3: Played special teams and then eventually, you know, his volleyball

1736
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 3: background led him obviously to being a great wide out.

1737
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 3: So I think he has shown some growth as well.

1738
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 3: Now you know, again, is he gonna be a one

1739
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 3: hundred catch guy? Probably not, But I still think he

1740
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 3: possesses a trait that's really really coveted and it's worth

1741
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 3: a price tag in the mid twenties to high twenties.

1742
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 7: Can be seventy catch guy because he's never eclipsed fifty

1743
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,799
Speaker 7: He's never eclipped forty seven catches in a season.

1744
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 5: Well, I guess the counter there, Mark would be, that's

1745
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 5: a good question. But two, does he need that many

1746
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,799
Speaker 5: catches considering the volume in which I mean that volume,

1747
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 5: the yards per reception. I think he led the league

1748
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 5: for a second straight year. So are you okay with

1749
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 5: having I don't know, sixty one catches, but they're going

1750
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 5: for twenty yards of pop eighteen yards of pop.

1751
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 4: Here's what I'll say about Alec Pierce. I'm gonna build

1752
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 4: on what you said, Kevin. I think he not only

1753
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 4: has the number one trait that you need in the

1754
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 4: National Football League, I think he's got the top two

1755
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 4: traits you need for a wide receiver in the NFL.

1756
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 4: The thing that I was we knew he could blow

1757
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 4: the top off of coverage and he had demonstrated that early.

1758
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 4: He really doubled down on that last year. That's great

1759
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 4: and get behind anybody in the National Football League.

1760
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 3: That's huge.

1761
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 6: But his ability last year, you talk about him growing, Kevin,

1762
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 6: his ability to make the contested.

1763
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 4: Catch, like every single time that ball was thrown into

1764
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 4: a tight window and he was well covered, or he

1765
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 4: had to make a catch with one, you know, one

1766
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 4: foot being dragged behind him in the corner of the

1767
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 4: end zone, of the corner of the sideline. His ability

1768
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 4: last year, what he showed me to make any catch.

1769
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,839
Speaker 4: Almost every time he could get his hands on a football,

1770
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 4: that in addition to the speed and the ability to

1771
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 4: get behind defense. Is I think he's going to be

1772
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 4: a great receiver in this league. Do I think he's

1773
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 4: gonna be Hall of Fame? I'm not going to go

1774
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 4: that far, but my point is I think he would.

1775
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 4: Let me go on here, Mark, before you get back

1776
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 4: to my projections, someday, tell me that he's not gonna be.

1777
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 4: Tell me he's not gonna be one of the top

1778
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 4: six wide receivers in the AFC this year.

1779
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 3: In the AFC YEP slightly different than Kendah Man.

1780
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 5: I might say he won't be. I gotta see who's

1781
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 5: in the AFC.

1782
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 6: I just think he's got everything you want.

1783
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 5: And in a wide receiver, what is he top six

1784
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 5: AFC wide receiver? Boy, that is quite the question.

1785
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 9: Chase, his ECO collins, the ball.

1786
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 6: Skills that he showed tell me he's not a bad look.

1787
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 4: He's just as effective as a as a downfield, blow

1788
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 4: the top off receiver as Jamar Chase was. He doesn't

1789
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 4: get the volume that Jamar Chase did. And I'm not

1790
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 4: saying he is Jamar Chase. Listen carefully to what I'm saying.

1791
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 4: He possesses everything you want a top wide receiver in

1792
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 4: the NFL to have he takes, he takes the top

1793
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 4: off a defense. Tell me which contestant catches he didn't

1794
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 4: make last year.

1795
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 5: I agree with that to an extent. But because this

1796
01:17:56,160 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 5: is and this is why I ask a question, how

1797
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 5: how do you perform when you're the top guy on

1798
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 5: this gutting report. Everyone knows you got it, you're gonna

1799
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 5: get the ball, or you're gonna try to get you

1800
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 5: the ball, and perhaps you don't have Michael Piman Jr.

1801
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 5: Alleviating some pressure. So let's just play it out. If

1802
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 5: Michael Pitman Jr. Isn't there, Alex Peis resigns and gets

1803
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 5: a big bag of money, they'll probably bring in another receiver.

1804
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 5: But the way people scout you and look at you

1805
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 5: changes drastically. So can you produce when everyone and their

1806
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 5: mother knows you're getting the ball? I mean so yeah,

1807
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 5: Javar Chase in any comparison, Jeff, it's hard for me

1808
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 5: to fathom.

1809
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:40,839
Speaker 6: I did not say top receiver in the AFC.

1810
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 5: My point is, I don't even know if like top

1811
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 5: six is that that's tough.

1812
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 6: My point is, you can you can say that he

1813
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 6: can get downfield and get open.

1814
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, for sure.

1815
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 4: But like man, but he's gonna he's not gonna get

1816
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 4: to your point. He's not going to get the volume.

1817
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 4: Jimar Chase can be thrown at twelve times a game.

1818
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 4: Sometimes that's not gonna happen with Elk Boy.

1819
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 3: I did not see James's question turn it into this

1820
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 3: where you.

1821
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 6: Guys are gonna turn it on me. I can see

1822
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 6: this as we go.

1823
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:11,759
Speaker 4: I'm saying he has the ability to be a top receiver,

1824
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 4: certainly in his conference and and as time goes on

1825
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 4: the NFL.

1826
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 3: Mark you ever gone rumshot in the coffee I have.

1827
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,719
Speaker 9: I've done Buffalo trace and the company standing.

1828
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 3: I can endorse that wholeheartedly. I see what the coffee,

1829
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 3: you know, bars look like that Jeff Ricker just found out.

1830
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 4: Look, I say this thinks enough of him that they're

1831
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 4: gonna pay him top dollar this year.

1832
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 3: I will say this on Pierce to go back to

1833
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 3: kind of the original question, and you know, I guess

1834
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 3: not be super hyperbolic with it. Who had a better

1835
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 3: season last year? Alex Pierce and Michael Pittman Jr. Ap

1836
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 3: easily and he had thirty three less catches than Michael Pittman. Jr. Yeah,

1837
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 3: So you know mark throughout the number there of whatever

1838
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 3: seventy catch he goes, you know, can he be a

1839
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 3: seventy catch guy? Like I understand there is an element

1840
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 3: of like, yes, week in week out, you want to

1841
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 3: see your top wide out be whatever seven to eight

1842
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 3: catch guy, like, there is a there is a notion

1843
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 3: to that. But I don't I think at times it

1844
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 3: can be a little overblown. I mean we were talking

1845
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 3: about and for the most part, Pittman Junior and Pierce

1846
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 3: played a very similar amount of games. Hell, I would

1847
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 3: say Pittman Junior probably played more games, and you know,

1848
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 3: thirty three catch difference, and if you ask the question

1849
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 3: of who was a better whiteout, you would say Alex

1850
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,560
Speaker 3: Pierce definitely was the better white out. So when you

1851
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 3: have led the NFL in yards per catch each of

1852
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 3: the last two years, when you just did something this

1853
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 3: league hasn't seen in over a decade, Deshaun Jackson, what

1854
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:40,919
Speaker 3: twenty ten, twenty twelve.

1855
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, with the twenty yards of catching all that twenty

1856
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 5: two yards catch it was a couple of years ago.

1857
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 3: So you know that is big, big praise now, you know,

1858
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 3: Am I ready to say? Canton, Ohio? Am I ready

1859
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,799
Speaker 3: to say whatever, No, But I think for the Colts

1860
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 3: operation and the Colt's depth chart, and I do think

1861
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 3: you have to acknowledge Tyler Warren's presence as a consistent

1862
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 3: pass catcher. You expect that it can and you're not fair. Yeah,

1863
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 3: some of Michael Pittman Junior. Then I think Pierce is

1864
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 3: a worthy of the type of money that he's going

1865
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 3: to Garner.

1866
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 4: And I want to be clear, I'm not talking about

1867
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 4: a number of catches. I'm not talking about making it

1868
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 4: on All Pro team or anything like that. I'm just

1869
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 4: saying to your point, Kevin, in terms of impact, We've

1870
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 4: seen what he can do when he gets behind guys,

1871
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 4: which he seems to do once or twice a game.

1872
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 6: And I was more impressed. We knew that at a

1873
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 6: certain point last year.

1874
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 4: I was more impressed as the year went on with

1875
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 4: his ability to if you threw the ball his way, James,

1876
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 4: he was going to catch it. That doesn't happen all

1877
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 4: the time in the National Football League.

1878
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's uncanny with that, Jeff. I mean jump ball,

1879
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 5: fifty to fifty ball. I actually talked to Reggie Wayne

1880
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 5: about this last year because the common term is fifty

1881
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 5: to fifty ball, but he was saying with Alex, it's

1882
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 5: probably like eighty twenty because of the catch radius. And

1883
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 5: really I think it's it's skill, it's also a talent

1884
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 5: and kind of a gift. And him working at it

1885
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 5: and to all the points that you all have made,

1886
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,560
Speaker 5: he has expanded the Rau tree. He has become a

1887
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:07,839
Speaker 5: more complete player, and that was one of the questions

1888
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 5: about him. But honestly, one of the funnier things about

1889
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 5: this is that, remember he started his career with a

1890
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 5: drop touchdown pass.

1891
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah in Houston.

1892
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm thinking to myself, you've gone from that

1893
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 5: to now, Jeff, He's gonna make one hundred million probably

1894
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 5: on the next contract. Like that is quite the rise

1895
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 5: for Alec Pierce, and he's earned it. I think, you know,

1896
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 5: we talked about competition in the roster. He's the only

1897
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 5: one I could point to and say when there was

1898
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 5: extra juice, additive position, when there was extra competition, additive position,

1899
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 5: as Chris Ballace that he wanted to have. Alec responded

1900
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 5: when Adie Mitchell showed up, he was like, all right,

1901
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 5: this guy's here to take my job. I'm gonna make

1902
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 5: sure I keep my job and not only keep my

1903
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 5: job and get paid. So shout out to him.

1904
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 3: So do we need to try to come up with

1905
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 3: the six wideouts?

1906
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 10: Or no?

1907
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 3: Are we are? We are we gonna give Jeff?

1908
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 6: Are we gonna Are you talking about the a f C.

1909
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 3: Can't o io? Seemed outrageous.

1910
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:05,759
Speaker 6: Nobody said can't ohio?

1911
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:07,719
Speaker 3: Mark, can you drum up that audio?

1912
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:09,799
Speaker 6: Please go get shirt, give give.

1913
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 12: I said, I'm you can see the edit job you

1914
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 12: got Jamar Chase, Niccollins, Flowers, Courtland, Sudden you So we

1915
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 12: would say Flowers, suddon.

1916
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 9: The Dolphins before he got released.

1917
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, the other names I came up, But then again,

1918
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 3: I'm not tigging to these names, but I would say

1919
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Jaylen Wattle, came caf Stefan Diggs.

1920
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 9: Lad McConkie, Brian Thomas Jory.

1921
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 4: A year from now, you're going to be putting him

1922
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 4: in the in the list of some of those guys,

1923
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 4: because what doesn't he do Kevin.

1924
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 3: Well, I think he doesn't consistently catch the football to

1925
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 3: the notion of a lot of number one whiteouts. Now,

1926
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 3: some might counter and say, well, he hasn't been asked

1927
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 3: to do that. But you know, I think now you

1928
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 3: will be That's that's kind of like my broader right

1929
01:23:55,800 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 3: that that is a fair critique. I think is unfair

1930
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 3: to say that yet, because I don't think he's been

1931
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 3: asked to do that, but it is unknown. Can you

1932
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 3: round out the whole route tree and can you make

1933
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 3: a few more of the boring catches more of the

1934
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 3: methodical catches again at the end of a season. Can

1935
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 3: you be a seven to eight catch a game sort

1936
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 3: of guy, six seven eight, six seven catch a game guy?

1937
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 3: Can you do that? That would probably be the question

1938
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 3: that I would have, And you know that's really the

1939
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 3: big one for me.

1940
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 6: I think he can I do. I saw the route

1941
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Speaker 6: running last year.

1942
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Speaker 4: I saw contested catches, his ability to take the top

1943
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 4: off of the defense. I think we saw a guy

1944
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Speaker 4: who was starting to become a big time receiver last year.

1945
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,839
Speaker 4: And I think if he just continues on the trajectory

1946
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Speaker 4: that he's on, I think he'll be one of the

1947
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 4: better wide receivers, certainly in the division and certainly in

1948
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Speaker 4: the AFC.

1949
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Speaker 3: I believe that well.

1950
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Speaker 5: I looked it up. Jeff number six in the A

1951
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 5: seen receiving yards last year.

1952
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 6: I want to give me a name, Alec Pierce.

1953
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 5: There you go, so, hey, got my I guy you little.

1954
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 6: I go back to the word, I really go back.

1955
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,679
Speaker 4: I was really building on what you were saying, Kevin,

1956
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 4: because I really think the keyword when it comes to

1957
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Speaker 4: Alec Pierce that you.

1958
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Speaker 6: Talked about was impact.

1959
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Speaker 4: Every time that guy caught a pass, it was it

1960
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 4: was a key first down, or it was a touchdown,

1961
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 4: or it was, like I said, the contested catch, or

1962
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 4: it was flipping the field. Every time he made a play,

1963
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 4: it seemed to make a big difference in the game,

1964
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 4: didn't it.

1965
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he is a home Yeah. I mean

1966
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 3: I'm a huge Alec Pierce fan. I just I don't

1967
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 3: know if I want to be grouped into Canahi.

1968
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 4: Well, then why are you playing? Nobody said Canton Ohio.

1969
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 4: This is this is how it's gonna be for the

1970
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Speaker 4: next twelve months.

1971
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Speaker 5: James, Oh boy.

1972
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 4: The quote was. I'm not saying he's going to the

1973
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. I'm not saying multiple All pros. I'm

1974
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 4: saying he is going to be a reliable, great receiver

1975
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 4: in the National Football League. And all all you gotta

1976
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 4: do is look at how many teams are willing to

1977
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 4: pay him a bunch of money this off season.

1978
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mark, I'm buying a Ham and Crew neck right now.

1979
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 3: I'm taking out the credit card.

1980
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Speaker 9: Oh look at that. Yeah, I know I wanted to

1981
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 9: get it. It was online only, though, so I wanted

1982
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 9: to go in the store and get it in person.

1983
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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, Mark, you do know all the

1984
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 5: Chicago guys are here, so you let me know. We

1985
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 5: wanted to stadium update.

1986
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 9: I'm stuck in the studio.

1987
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:23,719
Speaker 3: As soon as I saw the Chicago guys.

1988
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 6: This is what is Mark?

1989
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 3: Do you want me to order you want?

1990
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 9: I mean, I'll happily pay you.

1991
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 8: There we go.

1992
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 5: Look, we're getting some things done here.

1993
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:35,600
Speaker 3: What size, Mark, large, larger in charge. I'm on it,

1994
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 3: larger in charge. I'm on it. Free shipping Tuesdays. Thank

1995
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 3: you to the shop for that.

1996
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 5: Tell out to the shop.

1997
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 6: We need to get some Gary Berry T shirts.

1998
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 5: Gary Berry.

1999
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2000
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 5: I was trolling the family back home, don't we gotta

2001
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 5: get to break But they were not pleased with me.

2002
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 5: When I got on the road, I was definitely telling

2003
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 5: my family, Yeah, you're losing your NFL team, you losers.

2004
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:54,640
Speaker 5: You finally get good at football and now you're going

2005
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 5: to our state, yep. And they were not very pleased

2006
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 5: about that. Jeff at to get at my grandma's house

2007
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 5: because my uncle looked like he wanted to put hands

2008
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 5: on your boy.

2009
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Speaker 6: All right. Uh, Kevin is making his purchase. Mark is

2010
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 6: a getting him on.

2011
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Speaker 4: We'll talk more about the colts of the Combine coming

2012
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 4: up in a moment at ninety three five and one.

2013
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Speaker 5: So what you want me to do? I'm EXPENSI and

2014
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 5: now I'm living in.

2015
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Speaker 2: Correction no facilities because live from the NFL Combine in

2016
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Speaker 2: downtown Indianapolis. If you're listening to The Fan Morning Show

2017
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Speaker 2: on sports Radio ninety three five and one oh seven

2018
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Speaker 2: five The Fan, the official home of the Indies Sports Fan.

2019
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Speaker 8: James.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, we're here at the Combine and it's all about

2021
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 4: getting ready for the NFL Draft and evalue waiting guys

2022
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 4: coming into the lead.

2023
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Speaker 5: I'm about to run the forty Dad that training camp, Baby,

2024
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 5: Kevin's gonna run four seven eight today. I was moving.

2025
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 3: I forgot you cut those kids in the line of

2026
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:55,799
Speaker 3: training camp. Absolutely.

2027
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Speaker 5: I told him watch out losers and then I'll let

2028
01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 5: them know what's up.

2029
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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 4: People already starting to think about the NBA Draft, though,

2031
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 4: with the Pacers having potentially a top pick Evan Almighty

2032
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 4: rights in. Guys, just saw another clip of Peterson trying

2033
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 4: to sub himself out again last night after making a

2034
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 4: three pointer. He says, Pacers, no matter where you fall

2035
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 4: in the first round one through four, just take Boozer.

2036
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 4: He's wise beyond his years. Also take Braden Smith in

2037
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 4: the second round boiler up.

2038
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Speaker 3: Did he do that? I don't know watch the first half.

2039
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Speaker 5: I saw the video and it did look kind of

2040
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 5: similar to when he took himself out from another recent game.

2041
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 5: But also I'm always like, oh, camera angles, I wasn't there,

2042
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 5: Like did we get the full context? But I will

2043
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 5: say this, Darren Peterson spoke after yesterday's game, Mark, and

2044
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,839
Speaker 5: if you have that audio already, let me know, because

2045
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,600
Speaker 5: he did say some things about A, how do you

2046
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 5: react to some of the criticism that that's been bestowed

2047
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 5: upon you? And then also B how do you personally

2048
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 5: handle it? I thought some of his responses were very

2049
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 5: interesting to say at least.

2050
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's gonna be fascinating to watch his participation

2051
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 4: down the stretch here in tournament play. And does he

2052
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 4: consistently play every other night for a couple of weeks

2053
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 4: in a row, and like I said, we saw him

2054
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 4: play thirty two minutes the other night, and he didn't

2055
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 4: have one of his best games. He's He's demonstrated the

2056
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 4: ability to just light teams up for a half and

2057
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 4: then the issues, whatever they are, start to pop up.

2058
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind funny. One possession last night I was

2059
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 3: watching in the first half he hit like this one

2060
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 3: legged like eighteen footer. I was like, oh my gosh.

2061
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 3: I mean we you watch him play. I mean, there

2062
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 3: is some just wildly impressive skill and you know, we

2063
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 3: obviously have started to psychoanalyze them. We're going to continue

2064
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,799
Speaker 3: to psychoanalyzem. I mean I'm literally watching him every possession

2065
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 3: being like, Okay, is he low fiend?

2066
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 11: Is he?

2067
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 3: Is he not engaged?

2068
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 5: I mean, like, you know, I.

2069
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 3: Didn't necessarily observe that. Granted I was just watching the

2070
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 3: first half last night, but that will be one of

2071
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 3: the more you know, we talked about this at the

2072
01:29:58,040 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 3: NFL Combined a lot. We talked about a little bit

2073
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 3: to start off the sh show this year, I think

2074
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,639
Speaker 3: it's lacking kind of the big interview. You know, who's

2075
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 3: the big tantalizing talented prospect that has an off the

2076
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 3: field or a non playing of the sport question. Can

2077
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 3: you imagine if Darren Peterson was walking up to one

2078
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 3: of these podiums here in the next few days in

2079
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 3: what that scene would look like and what those questions

2080
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 3: would be like? Boy, I mean, I don't know what

2081
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 3: the Have you ever been to the NBA combine up

2082
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 3: in Chicago, James, I have? Actually, I mean it's nothing

2083
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 3: like this.

2084
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, I want to say the year I

2085
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 5: went PLO, Ban Carroll was like the big dude I

2086
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 5: might have been coming out, but yeah, no, he's gonna

2087
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 5: have a lot to answer for when it comes to health,

2088
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:43,759
Speaker 5: love of the game, and maybe some of that stuff

2089
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 5: is out of bounds, but we know every time we

2090
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 5: talk to a player, they tell us that there's some

2091
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 5: wildly crazy question that somebody asks him along the way.

2092
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 5: So I can't sit up here and act like that

2093
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 5: won't be part of the conversation and.

2094
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:56,679
Speaker 3: Correct me what I'm wrong. Haven't we seen NBA teams

2095
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 3: in the past, and maybe like Ace Bailey, I'm thinking

2096
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 3: of him last year with Rutgers, can't you do a

2097
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 3: little hiding of medical records in the NBA, isn't not

2098
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 3: like a thing with I mean, like their medical evaluation

2099
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 3: is not what it is here in the NFL, I guess,

2100
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 3: is what I'm saying. Where the NFL, you know, right

2101
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 3: here from an AU health standpoint, independent, yeah, I mean,

2102
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 3: and it's picked in product and you got all these

2103
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:18,800
Speaker 3: medical staffs here in Indy for the week, whereas from

2104
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:23,639
Speaker 3: an NBA standpoint, I believe you could be a little

2105
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 3: bit more protective.

2106
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 5: You probably can't, but Mark, I know, I just tease

2107
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 5: it there. If you have the audio for from Darren

2108
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 5: Peterson last night talking after the game, here's what he

2109
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 5: had to say about a dealing with the talk from

2110
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 5: the national media about him, and also be how he

2111
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 5: handles it. Somebody's had something to say probably after every

2112
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 5: game this year, So I don't really pitch sit anymore.

2113
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2114
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,720
Speaker 5: I kind of been a anti social loner my whole

2115
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 5: life kind of, so.

2116
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 8: I kind of just deal with it on my own.

2117
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 5: So in that clip, just to reiterate, he says, you know,

2118
01:31:58,520 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 5: somebody has something to say all the time about what

2119
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 5: I'm doing, And then he asked about how he handle it,

2120
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 5: he says, well, I've been an anti social loan on

2121
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 5: my whole life. I'm thinking, do I want this guy

2122
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:10,879
Speaker 5: on my team? Like, do I want you leading my franchise?

2123
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 5: If I draft you number one? You are saying, yes,

2124
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 5: Tyree Taliburton is here, but you are also right next

2125
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 5: to him as our franchise pillar. And that to me

2126
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 5: was a little like, what do you mean anti social loaner? Like, brother,

2127
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 5: you better get to talking to somebody if you need to,

2128
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 5: you know, get it out there or something. So And

2129
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 5: I know I might be, you know, overdoing it or exaggerating,

2130
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 5: but I thought that was interesting his response to it,

2131
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:32,680
Speaker 5: because I'm thinking that's not going to go away. It's

2132
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 5: only going to get louder when you come to the NBA.

2133
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 4: So to that point, though, is it better for him

2134
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:39,600
Speaker 4: to come to a team like Indiana where there is

2135
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:43,799
Speaker 4: an established guy who's really the leader, like Tyreegse Halliburton,

2136
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 4: and he can just kind of hide in the shadows

2137
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 4: and do his thing.

2138
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, it has number one pick Jeff, I mean, or

2139
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 5: number two, but the personality wise, maybe it would help.

2140
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 3: But just seems like there's a lot of risk there

2141
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 3: with Peterson and I don't know if you're in a

2142
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 3: position as a franchise to need to take that risk.

2143
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 3: I think you're in a point in time as a

2144
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 3: franchise where, you know, let's be honest, you're starting five

2145
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 3: right now, a lot of people think can win it

2146
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 3: all or get very far. I should say what you know, Haliburton,

2147
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 3: memhar Nie Smith, Siakam Zubats, Yes, this draft pick will

2148
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 3: be huge, but it's not I. You know, other franchises

2149
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 3: I think have to take a risk of major magnitude

2150
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 3: and potentially reap the benefits. To me, if you're looking

2151
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 3: at the top four of Debansa and Boozer and Wilson,

2152
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,560
Speaker 3: and I get they're not all the same player and

2153
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 3: potentially the rewards on them could be different from a

2154
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:41,560
Speaker 3: hitting the home run out of the ballpark. But it

2155
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 3: just seems a little risky for a franchise that I

2156
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 3: don't think necessarily needs to take that risk.

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Speaker 4: Right now, company your life from the Combine, We're gonna

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Speaker 4: check in with the ESPN senior NFL reporter Kaylin Kaylor

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Speaker 4: coming up in just a moment here, talk about what

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Speaker 4: to look for this week at the Combine. National thoughts

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Speaker 4: on the Colts and what they're doing and also big

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Speaker 4: fundraise are coming up on Friday that Caln's a part

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Speaker 4: of every year.

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Speaker 6: We'll do all that for you next. As we continue

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Speaker 6: at ninety three five.

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Speaker 4: Coming back, watch Stack.

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Speaker 2: Live from the NFL Combine in downtown Indianapolis. You were

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Speaker 2: listening to The Fan Morning show on Sports Radio ninety

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Speaker 2: three five and one oh seven five The Fan, the

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Speaker 2: official home of the indie sports fans.

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Speaker 4: Boy, we got here very early this morning. Cam had

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Speaker 4: already set everything up. He was one of the first

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Speaker 4: people in the building and there might have been ten

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Speaker 4: or twelve people hanging around when we started the show

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Speaker 4: at seven o'clock. That is not the case now, Kevin

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Speaker 4: Bowen is the broadcast media crew from everywhere in the

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Speaker 4: NFL has started to show up. This is becoming a busy,

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Speaker 4: busy place at this point in time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and just remind everybody this is pretty much head

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Speaker 3: coach GM day here at the Combine. So Shane Steike

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Speaker 3: in at four point thirty, Chris Ballard at five third.

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Speaker 3: Believe Shane will hop on with John this afternoon and

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Speaker 3: will of Chris bow to close out the show tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: So Rick Carlisle schedule for nine thirty today Chris Ballard's

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Speaker 3: schedule for nine to forty five tomorrow, and then we'll

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Speaker 3: get prospects starting to talk to the media coming up

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Speaker 3: on Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: All right, I like it, and we welcome in our

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Speaker 4: first guest of the morning in somebody we had a

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Speaker 4: chance to talk to last year for a very great reason. A.

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Speaker 4: She knows the NFL inside and out. B she's doing

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Speaker 4: some great things. Well, she's gonna be here for the

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Speaker 4: Combine later this week. Kaylen Keller from ESPN senior NFL

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Speaker 4: reporter joins us now on the Payless Liquors hotline.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Caylin, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 11: Good morning, I'm doing well.

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Speaker 10: You know, just my first morning here at the combine.

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Speaker 10: A guy who last night and I'm already like behind schedule.

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Speaker 11: And totally unorganized.

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Speaker 10: So you know it's it's right on part for her

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Speaker 10: normal combine.

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Speaker 3: Week, Kaylin, thank you for the time. Okay, So Friday,

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Speaker 3: you know we've gotten used to this event before with

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Speaker 3: Peter King over there at sun King, I love myself

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Speaker 3: a little Wemac beer. What can fans look forward to Sunday?

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Speaker 3: And of course it's going for a great cause.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, So on Friday night, at sun King my old boss,

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Speaker 10: Peter King, who is not retired. He's actually he went

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Speaker 10: to the Winter Olympics with his wife. They went to

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Speaker 10: see figure skating and then had this great Italian vacation.

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Speaker 10: It looked awesome.

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Speaker 11: So he's enjoying.

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Speaker 10: Retirement right now. But he started this event. I don't

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Speaker 10: even know how many years it's gone on now. I

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Speaker 10: feel like it's been probably close to ten years, where

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Speaker 10: we gather a panel of NFL insiders, NFL reporters for

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Speaker 10: all different outlets to talk about the NFL draft, to

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Speaker 10: answer your colts questions, your NFL draft questions, your combine questions.

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Speaker 10: And it's going to be this Friday at sun King

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Speaker 10: starting at six o'clock. And this year's beneficiary is Riley

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Speaker 10: Children's Hospital, so we've got a great beneficiary.

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Speaker 11: And I will send you guys.

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Speaker 10: The link so you can close on your website if

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Speaker 10: you want your tweet about it later.

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Speaker 11: But on my Twitter at Kaylen Taylor.

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Speaker 8: And h L. E. R.

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Speaker 11: You can find the link. I have it pinned there.

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Speaker 10: The link to buy tickets is twenty five dollars and

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Speaker 10: the proceeds go to Riley Children's Hossible, so it should

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Speaker 10: be a great night. It's always really fun to meet

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Speaker 10: people in Indianapolis who care about football and who want

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Speaker 10: to chat. And we've got you know, we're gonna have

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Speaker 10: a great panel supporters. Albert Breer from Sports Illustratio will

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Speaker 10: be there. We've got a few ESPN.

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Speaker 11: Folks brook Prior for ESPN.

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Speaker 10: I'm going to have some of the some reporters who

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Speaker 10: represent you know, the first couple of picks in the draft,

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Speaker 10: Raiders and Jets present to discuss what these two teams

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Speaker 10: might do with their picks. And there'll be some items

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Speaker 10: to bid on, some fun autographed items related to football

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Speaker 10: as well. So if you guys are interested, I'd love

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Speaker 10: to see anyone listening there this Friday night at Sunking.

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Speaker 5: Kaylin, this is a great event. Your boy will be

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Speaker 5: pulling up, so it'll be good to see you later

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Speaker 5: this week. Yeah. I can definitely vouch for the event.

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Speaker 5: It gives you a little chance. I guess people behind

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01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:02,879
Speaker 5: the and when it comes to our lives NFL reporters,

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Speaker 5: what's going on in this year's draft. And one question

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Speaker 5: I have for you, Kaitlin is this is such a

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Speaker 5: an eclectic event. I feel like it's kind of all

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Speaker 5: over the place, depending on what your role is. So

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Speaker 5: for those who don't know what the combine experience is

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Speaker 5: like for someone who's in your role without giving away

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Speaker 5: too much, and are you hours working on something, can

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Speaker 5: you explain what that looks like you know, in your

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Speaker 5: week ahead?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, So like it's you try to plan as many

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Speaker 10: you know, actual scheduled meeting coffee meetups or source meetups

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Speaker 10: as you can. You know, I usually try to go

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Speaker 10: into it with a list of people that I've never

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Speaker 10: met in person, but maybe I talked to them on

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Speaker 10: the phone for a story this year, and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 10: it would be really nice to like actually meet this

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Speaker 10: person in person, so they know who I am, they

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Speaker 10: know what we look like. So I'll usually go in

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Speaker 10: with a few names like that, where I'm trying to

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Speaker 10: get them for a coffee or get them for you know,

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Speaker 10: just a random like three thirty afternoon meetup or something.

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Speaker 10: So you try to do that and then inevitably things

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Speaker 10: come up and obviously you're kind of popping around, like

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Speaker 10: as you guys mentioned today as the head coach and

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Speaker 10: general manager press conference day, which is always interesting and

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Speaker 10: I like to listen to those and come come with

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Speaker 10: some of my own questions. So you have to stay

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Speaker 10: tuned because they're all spread out through the entire day,

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Speaker 10: and like it starts at ten am, and then as

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Speaker 10: you guys mentioned, the Colt Skies aren't until like four

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Speaker 10: or five pm today, so they're a lot later in

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Speaker 10: the day that everybody else is going. So yeah, and

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Speaker 10: then as you walk from place to place, you could

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Speaker 10: never get anywhere on time, Like I'm not even on

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Speaker 10: Radio Row right now, because I knew I was going

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Speaker 10: to be late because I haven't.

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Speaker 11: Even picked up my credential yet.

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Speaker 10: Because as you walk down the you know, it takes

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Speaker 10: like fifteen minutes to walk to the convention center indoors

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Speaker 10: from your hotels. Everything's connected to be Indianapolis. You never

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Speaker 10: have to go outside, but you're going to run into

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Speaker 10: somebody you know around one corner. You have a five

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Speaker 10: minute conversation, then you run into someone else you know,

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Speaker 10: like twenty eight later, and so it's great for that

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01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 10: because you're just collecting tidbits, like I always have my

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01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 10: little notes app open on my phone because you know,

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Speaker 10: I'll talk to someone and they say something interesting and

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Speaker 10: I don't want to forget it later, so I have

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Speaker 10: to like write it down immediately or it's going to

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Speaker 10: leave my brain. So it's a lot of that. And

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Speaker 10: then you know, you'll do dinners if you know, with people,

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Speaker 10: and yeah, it's just running around like crazy from one

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Speaker 10: thing to the next. And I also always try to

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Speaker 10: do at least one thing that's kind of like accessy.

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Speaker 10: So like last year, I sat in on the kicker workouts,

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Speaker 10: which was really random but actually ended up being kind

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Speaker 10: of interesting. And so I try to do something where

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Speaker 10: I'm like, all right, I want to actually see like

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Speaker 10: a football player do a football act like because this

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Speaker 10: is like, you know, completely unrelated to that. So I

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Speaker 10: try to have like one thing where I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 10: I get to watch this workout or you know, I'm

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Speaker 10: going to spend time, you know, with this thing that's

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Speaker 10: you know, different or interesting.

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Speaker 11: So yeah, I try to do that as well.

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Speaker 4: Keayvin Kayler, senior NFL reporter at ESPN, joining us on

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Speaker 4: the Playlists Hotline right now, Kevin, from your perspective as

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Speaker 4: somebody covers the league as a whole, what are your

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Speaker 4: thoughts on the Indianapolis Colts and where they're at right

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Speaker 4: now and all the decisions they've got to make this offseason.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I think that their leadership is in

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Speaker 10: a good place. Like actually, this morning, in about an hour,

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Speaker 10: Carli Ert Gordon is going to be doing a little

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Speaker 10: speech at a women's forum, so a little conversation I

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Speaker 10: think with her two sisters as well.

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Speaker 11: I think the three of them are doing a little panel.

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Speaker 10: So I'm gonna swing by that because I'm really fascinated

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Speaker 10: with her leadership and you know, because it was their

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Speaker 10: first year obviously, her first year leading the team last season,

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Speaker 10: and so it was it was it was interesting to

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Speaker 10: see that she didn't make any changes because I was curious,

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Speaker 10: like what was going to be her process and when

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Speaker 10: her first year in that seat right, and so you know,

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Speaker 10: I think it's too early to tell if that's the

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Speaker 10: right the right decision to you know, stay put or not.

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Speaker 10: But it seems like she is really taking it seriously

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Speaker 10: and has prepared and is doing the work, and like

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Speaker 10: everybody raves about her leadership. So I think that that's

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Speaker 10: a really you know, a positive thing.

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Speaker 11: But I think, like my main.

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Speaker 10: Takeaway from the whole Philip Rivers scenario was, I don't know,

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Speaker 10: this is really a reflection on the Colts or if

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Speaker 10: it's a reflection league wide, but it's something I'm going

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01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 10: to be having conversations about, is quarterback development. Like I

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Speaker 10: really felt like, and this is not a this is

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Speaker 10: not a slam on Philip Rivers, but I really felt

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Speaker 10: like that was just a total indictment on quarterback development

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01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 10: in the NFL that you would rather call a guy

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Speaker 10: who's been out of football for five years and is

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Speaker 10: I don't even remember how old he was now, but

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Speaker 10: like you know, past forty, right, Like you'd rather call

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01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 10: that guy to come play for you than to take

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01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 10: to take your sixth round rookie quarterback and give him

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Speaker 10: the shot. Like That's where I was just like, Okay,

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01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:09,599
Speaker 10: this is a cute storyline, but what are we doing?

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01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:14,759
Speaker 10: Like what does this say about the crisis of quarterback

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Speaker 10: development for these young quarterbacks if they are not ready

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01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:22,760
Speaker 10: and teams are not even willing to to I guess

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Speaker 10: give them the reps that late in the season. And

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Speaker 10: I understand their were stakes. You know, they were in

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01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,840
Speaker 10: the playoff race. It wasn't like the season was lost, right,

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01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:32,560
Speaker 10: But I don't know, I felt like that was just

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01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 10: I had a lot of questions about that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Kayln Kaylor is with us here from ESPN. She's

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Speaker 3: got the event coming up the old if you will,

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01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 3: the Peter King's Sun King event. Reminder, that is the

2364
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 3: downtown location right off College Avenue, so just east of

2365
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Speaker 3: downtown here coming up six o'clock to seven point thirty

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Speaker 3: on Friday in the Riley Children's Foundation where those proceeds

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Speaker 3: are going. Kaitln, I do look around the room, and

2368
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. Maybe see some bleary eyed individuals

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Speaker 3: here on this Tuesday morning, and you know, I guess

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Speaker 3: I'm maybe making a little light of the situation. But

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Speaker 3: obviously we had quite the event after hours in Indianapolis

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Speaker 3: for one Mark Sanchez back during the fall. Yeah, did

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Speaker 3: you my god, did you happen to look into that

2374
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 3: story at all? Was there anything that maybe you discovered

2375
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,640
Speaker 3: with that that has maybe not come to light.

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Speaker 10: I did look into that, and I will say that

2377
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 10: was such a weird, weird reporting experience.

2378
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Speaker 11: Like I mean, I've done a lot.

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01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 10: Of like you know, investigative quasi investigative stories where I'm

2380
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:43,560
Speaker 10: like trying to get information that is sensitive or you know,

2381
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:47,599
Speaker 10: classified or confidential or you know something you know, something

2382
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 10: controversial happened and you're trying to find out more information

2383
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 10: about it.

2384
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:52,959
Speaker 11: And I've literally, like as we've talked.

2385
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 10: About on the show before, like I've done like reporting

2386
01:44:56,200 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 10: on like religious extremists, religious groups in Indiana, and like

2387
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 10: that's been weird. But this experience was so odd. Like

2388
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 10: I came to Indianapolis a few days after the situation happened.

2389
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,680
Speaker 10: It was in October, and it was I think I

2390
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 10: came maybe two days after, so I missed like the

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01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,160
Speaker 10: initial media wave, Like there was a ton of reporters

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Speaker 10: who came to Indianapolis TMZ, like national like you know

2393
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 10: New York posts like outlets like that that are like

2394
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:23,640
Speaker 10: not normally covering football.

2395
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 11: But what we're fascinated by this scandal. And I came

2396
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:27,720
Speaker 11: after the.

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Speaker 10: First wave of those people, and it was just so

2398
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 10: so odd, Like I was getting shut down every angle

2399
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 10: you can imagine, and also in like just really weird ways,

2400
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:43,719
Speaker 10: like the guy who owns, oh my gosh, I'm blinking

2401
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:48,839
Speaker 10: on the name of the bar, thank you, I wouldn't

2402
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 10: say her because he'd done a local TV interview. He

2403
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 10: had been on the local news on television, like his

2404
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 10: face was on it. Like there was no hiding his identity.

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01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 10: I went there thinking, oh, okay, he's already done the

2406
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:04,639
Speaker 10: local newsca. He's obviously going to you know, say yes

2407
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 10: to talk to me. Like what's the difference. I'm not

2408
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 10: even trying to put them on camera. And I have

2409
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 10: just the weirdest experience there, like he as soon as

2410
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 10: he like I introduced myself as a reporter, it was like,

2411
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 10: you know, the mood change. It was like, no, wouldn't

2412
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 10: even serve me a beverage. I was like, oh my gosh,

2413
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:24,160
Speaker 10: I'm just trying to like, you know, have a beer here.

2414
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 10: And so that was really weird to me, and it

2415
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,280
Speaker 10: really gave me the sense I can't you know, I

2416
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 10: haven't like proven this out, but like, you know, what

2417
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:35,080
Speaker 10: happens in these scenarios most likely is whoever is the

2418
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 10: subject of, you know, the issue, like the controversial event

2419
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 10: is going to try their best to cover things up

2420
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:45,720
Speaker 10: and to you know, have the information stay private. And

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01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 10: I think based off of my experience of like getting

2422
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 10: shut down and like every avenue, including by people who

2423
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 10: had already given out information, I got the sense, like

2424
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 10: an overwhelming sense that like there was there was active

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01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:03,719
Speaker 10: like don't talk about this going on among among people

2426
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 10: who knew things, which is not out of the ordinary

2427
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:08,599
Speaker 10: at all, Like that's probably what's going to happen here.

2428
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 11: Like that's why you have agents, that's why you have

2429
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 11: like you know.

2430
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 10: Crisis PR firms, like all of that stuff exists to like,

2431
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 10: you know, make sure that information isn't getting out.

2432
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 11: But that was my overwhelming.

2433
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 10: Experience is like, wow, this is a really weird before

2434
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,759
Speaker 10: I'm getting like just it was just really weird vibes

2435
01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 10: all around, and you think you were going to get information.

2436
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 11: And then the person would clam up, you know, and

2437
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 11: like I had.

2438
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 10: I even had trouble at getting video footage of you know,

2439
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 10: areas that would have caught him on camera when people

2440
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 10: initially said, oh yeah, we'll go through our cameras, will

2441
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 10: help you, and then it was like, oh no, we're

2442
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 10: not going to help you, you know, like it would

2443
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 10: be like a.

2444
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 11: Quick change in willingness to help. So that was really interesting.

2445
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 10: But I will say that the latest update on that,

2446
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 10: I've been in touch with the lawyers for Perry Toll,

2447
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 10: who was the victim in that case, the man who

2448
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:02,680
Speaker 10: ended up getting beat up by Mark Sanchez and the

2449
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 10: one who ended up stabbing him and what appeared to

2450
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 10: be self defense his attorneys. Uh. The latest with that

2451
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 10: is like there was a lawsuit against Fox and against

2452
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,479
Speaker 10: Mark Sanchez, and that lawsuit they were trying to move it,

2453
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 10: I believe, out of the state because Fox is not

2454
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 10: in Indiana, and his lawyers were arguing to bring it

2455
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 10: back into Indiana into the local Indianapolis courts. But within

2456
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 10: the latest filing there was a really interesting and again

2457
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:36,679
Speaker 10: this is not necessarily factual because it's in this document,

2458
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:38,880
Speaker 10: but there was a sentence.

2459
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:41,719
Speaker 11: In their filing to move this back to Indiana courts.

2460
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 10: Within the court system, they did have a sentence that

2461
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 10: said that they were under the belief that Sanchez had

2462
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 10: been getting into I wish I had it in front

2463
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:51,160
Speaker 10: of me right now, but I believe it.

2464
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:53,960
Speaker 11: I believe it mentioned like a specific.

2465
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:57,839
Speaker 10: Being overserved or I think it mentioned possibly a specific

2466
01:48:57,960 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 10: drug at Saint Elmos And so they said Saint Almost

2467
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:06,800
Speaker 10: has actually added to this lawsuit as well, because his

2468
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:09,639
Speaker 10: lawyers have kind of identified that as the place where

2469
01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 10: whatever happened to Mark Sandras that night began essentially. So

2470
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:16,880
Speaker 10: that's the latest like interesting turn in this is like

2471
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 10: Saint Almost is added to the lawsuit and the.

2472
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:22,760
Speaker 11: Latest filing, his attorneys aren't saying.

2473
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 10: More specifically like what they think Mark was getting into.

2474
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 10: And I don't have it in front of me right

2475
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 10: now to read it verbatim, so you know it's out

2476
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:32,600
Speaker 10: there though I think people have tweeted it and published it.

2477
01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:34,960
Speaker 11: But that's the latest kind of interesting turn in this.

2478
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 11: And so it hasn't gone to.

2479
01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 10: Trial, like it's still in the discovery phase.

2480
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:41,800
Speaker 11: And you know, I'm assuming something like this is going

2481
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:42,839
Speaker 11: to end up getting settled.

2482
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 10: I would be surprised if it ever, you know, the

2483
01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 10: civil lawsuit at least if that ever, uh, you know,

2484
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 10: made it to a trial.

2485
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:55,000
Speaker 4: Calin, thanks so much for stopping by this morning. I

2486
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 4: know it's a it's an early start to the to

2487
01:49:57,600 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 4: the combine for you, but you appreciate you checking in.

2488
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:03,920
Speaker 4: And one more time, you'll be Friday night ware raising

2489
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 4: money for food.

2490
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:08,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, we're going to be myself and a panel of

2491
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 10: various interesting reporters are going to be at Sungking Brewery,

2492
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 10: the downtown location, and we're going to be talking NFL

2493
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 10: and raising money for Riley Children's Hospital.

2494
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 11: So if you want to come have a beer with

2495
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 11: us and learn some NFL sacks and support a good cause.

2496
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 11: This is the event for you. Six o'clock Friday night.

2497
01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 4: Awesome, Thanks so much for stopping by. I can't wait

2498
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:32,680
Speaker 4: to talk to you and see you the rest of

2499
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 4: the week.

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01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 8: Have fun.

2501
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:34,720
Speaker 11: Thank you, thanks for having me.

2502
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 3: Guys, there you go.

2503
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 5: And again, this is the sun King Brewery downtown, not

2504
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 5: in Carmels, So just to make sure you go to

2505
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 5: the right place Friday evening, you know where all the

2506
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 5: sun things are.

2507
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 3: Indeed, the one of Carmel's an awesome Well, you know,

2508
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 3: I'm a big drinkerselves my jugs of beer, and honestly,

2509
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 3: Mark knows what I'm talking about you to, So yeah,

2510
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 3: just right off College here near east side the sun

2511
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 3: King location. So yeah, the annual Peter King events. I

2512
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 3: think of Kayla and Kayler for that. And again, as

2513
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:06,560
Speaker 3: Jeff said, six o'clock on Friday.

2514
01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 6: I think is it six o'clock or seven thirty six

2515
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 6: to seven thirty O. Yeah, that's what it is. Appreciate that.

2516
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 6: And you know, it's interesting.

2517
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:17,639
Speaker 4: I had kind of forgotten that of sight, out of mind,

2518
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 4: the whole Mark Sanchez thing, but it is kind of

2519
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:21,840
Speaker 4: interesting now that a lot of people that we're all

2520
01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:24,719
Speaker 4: over the TV and we're talking to reporters initially.

2521
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:26,640
Speaker 6: Now, don't have too much to say to anybody at

2522
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 6: this point in time.

2523
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:29,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what was it, Drew did Drew Breese take

2524
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:30,720
Speaker 3: over the rest of the year. I'm trying to think of.

2525
01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:33,679
Speaker 3: Is Brady Quinn for the one game in the rest

2526
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 3: of the year.

2527
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 6: So yeah, they brought in Brady for the one the

2528
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:38,519
Speaker 6: next day, and then after that it.

2529
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 3: Was right right right, yeah, Brady. I think Brady Quinn

2530
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:42,680
Speaker 3: was doing some big ten you know noon kickoff you

2531
01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 3: know in the Midwest here, So yeah, quite the story here, man.

2532
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:47,800
Speaker 4: It'd be interesting to see how much we do hear

2533
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:50,679
Speaker 4: about it moving forward, you know, depending on how it all.

2534
01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:57,000
Speaker 6: Goes goes the way of judicial process. As we move on.

2535
01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 6: It looks like a cluster truck is getting ready to

2536
01:51:59,439 --> 01:51:59,760
Speaker 6: arrive for.

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01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 3: Us, indeed, delivering from the combine. I'm out that even Cheryl.

2538
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Speaker 6: It doesn't matter where you're at, what you're doing. Evan's

2539
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 6: gonna take care of you book. Yeah, man, thank you.

2540
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,800
Speaker 3: That is big fan. The promo code there you get

2541
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Speaker 3: five dollars off, so love me a little cluster truck

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Speaker 3: action here from Radio row Rick carlib by the way

2543
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Speaker 3: in ten.

2544
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Speaker 6: All right, looking forward to that. In the meantime, Mark,

2545
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 6: let's check it down.

2546
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:25,840
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Speaker 2: Basketball Championships Marsh eight through Chens, tickets and more at

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Speaker 2: Horisonleague dot com. Slashing indeed, Well.

2550
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Speaker 6: We're talking about college basketball.

2551
01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:44,280
Speaker 4: We'll start with Northwestern and Bloomington to play Indiana tonight.

2552
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:47,559
Speaker 4: Booser's seventeen and ten overall, eight and eight in conference play.

2553
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 4: They got a big stretch of four games here to

2554
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:53,120
Speaker 4: finish off. The regular season starts with Northwestern at home tonight,

2555
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:55,720
Speaker 4: then home games against Michigan State Minnesota.

2556
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:58,040
Speaker 6: And then they finish up at OSU. Kevin.

2557
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 4: You've emphasized it a couple of times today. You cannot

2558
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 4: mess this one up if you are the Loosers.

2559
01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 3: By the way, a grand opening for Cluster Truck up

2560
01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:09,679
Speaker 3: and Karmel. Speaking of Carmel coming up on Friday there,

2561
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 3: so Carmel deliveries will be a bound here moving forward. Yes,

2562
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:15,400
Speaker 3: can't lose it tonight. It would be a bad, bad

2563
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:18,080
Speaker 3: loss on a resume right now, that is probably going

2564
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:20,799
Speaker 3: to be debated on some sort of bubble unless Indiana

2565
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:24,639
Speaker 3: can get one more big one. So yeah, not marquee

2566
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 3: from a national standpoint, But when you're eight and a

2567
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:28,559
Speaker 3: half nine and a half point favorite in late February

2568
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 3: and you're at home, you gotta win it.

2569
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 4: Also, you're wearing the Notre Dame hat today later on tonight,

2570
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 4: a team that we might see here in Indianapolis at

2571
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:37,920
Speaker 4: the end of March, beginning of April.

2572
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:41,080
Speaker 6: Duke play, Oh, I thought you, my Notre Dame brother,

2573
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:42,280
Speaker 6: they will be driving.

2574
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:44,920
Speaker 3: Oh kind of interesting how that took a turn there?

2575
01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, you got your eyes lit up there for a time.

2576
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, I know, I went from six to

2577
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 3: some sort of eleven tonight.

2578
01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:54,799
Speaker 9: Yeah, you didn't go from six even inverted.

2579
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:58,519
Speaker 3: I think I think I'll speak to my own body.

2580
01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:01,760
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Mark, you worried abot yours here? Yeah,

2581
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 3: seventeen half point underdog, we're missing our.

2582
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 6: You are slowly pulling in the dark side.

2583
01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 3: Mark three starters again about eight nine scholarship dude, So.

2584
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, all by myself in here, I got nothing else

2585
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:11,680
Speaker 9: to do.

2586
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 4: That's all we need to know right there. But that's

2587
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:17,960
Speaker 4: college basketball later on tonight. We also let you know

2588
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:20,680
Speaker 4: that in the NBA, the Sixers in town to take

2589
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 4: on the Pacers. I'm just going to read you guys

2590
01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 4: the list the Pacers injury report that they put out

2591
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 4: actually yesterday. Micah Potter's probable. That's good news. Cam Jones questionable.

2592
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 4: TJ McConnell questionable, Andrew Nemhart questionable, Pascal Siak I'm doubtful

2593
01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:40,720
Speaker 4: with the left wrist sprain. Aaron Nesmith out with the

2594
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 4: right ankle sprain. Aviatsa Zubats don't know when we're going

2595
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:46,440
Speaker 4: to see him out with the left ankle sprain. Johnny

2596
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:49,240
Speaker 4: Furfey of course out for the year. Obie Topping's still

2597
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 4: out with that right foot stress fracture, and Tyree's Halliburton

2598
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:54,720
Speaker 4: of course out for the year. We talked about this

2599
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 4: last hour, Kevin. Just those names right there. That's a

2600
01:54:58,320 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 4: playoff team right there, isn't it.

2601
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 3: The team that won a couple series, not just a

2602
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:04,840
Speaker 3: playoff team. So yeah, for Philly tonight, just reminder, Paul

2603
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 3: George still suspended. Joel Embiid I believe is questionable. He's

2604
01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 3: messed as the last handful of games there, so nine

2605
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 3: point underdog the Pacers inside a gamebridge Field House tonight.

2606
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:16,640
Speaker 6: All right.

2607
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 4: Later on today we will hear from Shane Stiken and

2608
01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 4: Chris Ballard here at the NFL Combine. Shane Stiken is

2609
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:24,640
Speaker 4: set to meet the media at four thirty, Chris Ballard

2610
01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 4: scheduled for five thirty. We will hear from Shane Stiken

2611
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 4: at some point during John's show from three to six.

2612
01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 4: Stay tuned to the station to find out when exactly

2613
01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 4: that ends up being. But looking forward to hearing from

2614
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 4: those guys today, And what do you think the big

2615
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:40,879
Speaker 4: question will be for both of them from like national

2616
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:41,920
Speaker 4: media today.

2617
01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 5: Well, nationally, I think a lot of it has to

2618
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:46,720
Speaker 5: do with the future of Anthony Richardson beyond Daniel Jones,

2619
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:49,320
Speaker 5: assuming you're able to resign him. I feel like when

2620
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 5: I talk to other beat writers and people of other teams,

2621
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 5: they're just so interested with the guy who a few

2622
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 5: years ago walked out here like Superman. So what happened

2623
01:55:58,200 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 5: to Superman?

2624
01:55:58,760 --> 01:55:59,840
Speaker 3: Where is he is?

2625
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:03,120
Speaker 5: Ki's still in there somewhere And will he have a

2626
01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 5: different team this time next year?

2627
01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 6: All right?

2628
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:09,520
Speaker 4: The Indianapolis Colts also have announced the five new coaches

2629
01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:12,280
Speaker 4: will join their staff. Chief among them Marion Hobby, the

2630
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 4: new defensive line coach, and he's got some history with

2631
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 4: lou Alarumo.

2632
01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:20,680
Speaker 5: James, Yes, absolutely, and Louanarumo and Marion Hobby worked together

2633
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:24,600
Speaker 5: probably four seasons in Cincinnati under the same titles defensive coordinator,

2634
01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:27,960
Speaker 5: defensive line coach. So a lot of familiarity there between

2635
01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 5: those two. And we'll see if that, along with adding

2636
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 5: some talent to the defensive line role, will help that

2637
01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 5: unit get turned around in twenty twenty six.

2638
01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 6: All right, one other football note.

2639
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:39,600
Speaker 4: Four star quarterback Gutta Rivers has decided to attend college

2640
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 4: at his father's alma Mada, North Carolina State. So I

2641
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:46,960
Speaker 4: don't know, Rivers, chapter two coming your way in college

2642
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:49,360
Speaker 4: football and who knows, maybe someday in the NFL. You're

2643
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:52,200
Speaker 4: mentioning too, James, His delivery looks a lot like dad.

2644
01:56:52,280 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, he throws it just like his dad. He can

2645
01:56:54,120 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 5: tell his dad literally taught him how to kill the football.

2646
01:56:57,360 --> 01:57:00,080
Speaker 5: And it looks like it's painful, Kevin, but hey, it

2647
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:02,000
Speaker 5: wars like his dad. You're gonna make a lot of

2648
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 5: money someday.

2649
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:02,680
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2650
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 3: Highly ranked recruit. I think he's like the six quarterback

2651
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:07,680
Speaker 3: in that class. So nice, we'll get there. For Dave

2652
01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:08,920
Speaker 3: Dorn NC State.

2653
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 9: I had a couple of quick ones, real quick.

2654
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:14,480
Speaker 7: The new Falcons gm Ian Cunningham has announced that they

2655
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 7: will release Kirk Cousins when the new year League Years starts,

2656
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 7: So there's a veteran that's going to hit the free agency.

2657
01:57:20,440 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 7: And then how about uh the Colts naming International Fan

2658
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 7: of the Year Lucas le June. He's been in our

2659
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 7: studios before and I think at the Combines, So shout

2660
01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 7: out to him from the Netherlands.

2661
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:34,000
Speaker 5: So where's the camera I got my lucastick great man.

2662
01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:36,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was in our studio just a few weeks ago.

2663
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:36,520
Speaker 11: Uh.

2664
01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:39,000
Speaker 4: He's just a tremendous young man and a big future

2665
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:40,840
Speaker 4: for him, and he had a great covering media and

2666
01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:44,600
Speaker 4: things of that nature. Also wanted to mention Ryan Carr

2667
01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:47,360
Speaker 4: is leaving the Pacers to go to Indiana University.

2668
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 6: Kevin, what do we know about that?

2669
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:51,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, gonna be kind of I guess the roster builder

2670
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 3: if you will. For Darren Debris. So maybe after we're

2671
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:55,640
Speaker 3: done with Rick Carlile, we can chat more about Ryan

2672
01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 3: Carr's roll down there in Bloomington, all.

2673
01:57:57,600 --> 01:57:59,600
Speaker 4: Right, Rick Carlisle is coming your way in a moment.

2674
01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:02,360
Speaker 4: Here we pause our coverage of the National Football League

2675
01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:04,400
Speaker 4: and the Colts to give you some Indiana Pacers and

2676
01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:07,560
Speaker 4: the head coach of the Pacers, as we do each Tuesday,

2677
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:09,480
Speaker 4: that comes your way. Next, it's the Fan Morning Show

2678
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:11,720
Speaker 4: with Kevin Bowe and James Boyd. I'm jeff Rickard Mark

2679
01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:14,879
Speaker 4: Dyden at the station engineer cam on site. We continue

2680
01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 4: next on ninety three five and one seven.

2681
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 2: Five siops, I got enough to go around and thought

2682
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:27,760
Speaker 2: takes place up town live from the NFL Combine in

2683
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 2: downtown Indianapolis. You're listening to the Fan Morning Show bits

2684
01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:36,000
Speaker 2: till get pickle uptown at a Poltimp'll betwn well.

2685
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:39,360
Speaker 3: Good Tuesday morning. That is certainly alive and busy here

2686
01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 3: at the Indiana Convention Center, the NFL Combine underway. It's

2687
01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:47,080
Speaker 3: pretty much GM head coach day. It's kind of how

2688
01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:49,720
Speaker 3: I reference Tuesday at the Combine. We will hear late

2689
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:53,440
Speaker 3: today from Shane Steiken and Chris Ballard. Chris Barward scheduled

2690
01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:57,520
Speaker 3: to join us tomorrow in the show, and then prospects

2691
01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 3: will start kind of their medius and then eventual workouts

2692
01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 3: beginning tomorrow We'll begin with the defensive side of the ball.

2693
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:09,680
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks will throw Saturday, friend Ina Minoza not throwing right,

2694
01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:11,000
Speaker 3: James just the pro day for him.

2695
01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 5: Just the pro day. Wants to help out his boys,

2696
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 5: and honestly, that's typical of most quarterbacks in his position

2697
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 5: when it comes to the draft.

2698
01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 3: Mark, you did say we have Rick Carla on the line.

2699
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:22,120
Speaker 5: Correct.

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01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:25,360
Speaker 3: All right, let's edit the pay list lookers hot line

2701
01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:28,600
Speaker 3: tonight it is pacers and sixers inside of game Bridge

2702
01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:30,520
Speaker 3: Fieldhouse and to chat more about that. It is our

2703
01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:34,080
Speaker 3: weekly combo with the head coach, Rick Carlisle coach. We

2704
01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:35,840
Speaker 3: always appreciate it, especially on a game day.

2705
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:38,320
Speaker 8: How are you doing doing fine?

2706
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:42,000
Speaker 3: Let's start with Pascal Siakam. Saw he popped up on

2707
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 3: the injury report elbow and is doubtful for tonight. We

2708
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:47,480
Speaker 3: saw him play and play very well in his return

2709
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:50,280
Speaker 3: on Sunday. Is that something that happened during the game

2710
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 3: on Sunday?

2711
01:59:52,120 --> 01:59:56,000
Speaker 8: Yeah? I did. I did, having a play. I believe

2712
01:59:56,040 --> 01:59:59,360
Speaker 8: it happened when he drove and I.

2713
01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:01,520
Speaker 13: Think Chris and took a charge and he hit the

2714
02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:05,960
Speaker 13: floor and landed on it. Is it you said, elbow?

2715
02:00:05,960 --> 02:00:09,360
Speaker 13: I thought it was Rist but one of the two.

2716
02:00:09,560 --> 02:00:14,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's it's a risk. But looking at the

2717
02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:17,440
Speaker 5: rest of your roster, Rick, when you look at what

2718
02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:19,880
Speaker 5: Kobe Brown has offered you all, what do you think

2719
02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:23,000
Speaker 5: has led to some of his uh, I would say

2720
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:26,760
Speaker 5: this outside shooting, the opportunity that he's had to really

2721
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:28,160
Speaker 5: show maybe an expanded game.

2722
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:33,520
Speaker 13: Well, our style plays quite different from the Clippers, so

2723
02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:38,360
Speaker 13: I think it suits him a little bit better. And

2724
02:00:38,480 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 13: it's just it's just a different kind of way of playing.

2725
02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:47,040
Speaker 13: You know, we played faster, we play with more with

2726
02:00:47,240 --> 02:00:51,560
Speaker 13: more random movement. I think that's kind of naturally what

2727
02:00:51,800 --> 02:00:55,400
Speaker 13: is uh, you know, best for best for his game,

2728
02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:58,760
Speaker 13: and you know, we we shelped him with a couple

2729
02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:00,240
Speaker 13: of small adjustments.

2730
02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:02,520
Speaker 8: With it with his shooting, and he's doing he's doing

2731
02:01:02,600 --> 02:01:05,280
Speaker 8: some good things. You know, he's a good all round player.

2732
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:10,240
Speaker 13: He's versatile, he can play multiple multiple positions. He guards well,

2733
02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:16,040
Speaker 13: he crashes the offensive boards well. The game he had

2734
02:01:16,400 --> 02:01:18,520
Speaker 13: in New York in his first game, you know, was

2735
02:01:18,680 --> 02:01:21,560
Speaker 13: very impactful. He had to or three offensive rebounds, he

2736
02:01:21,640 --> 02:01:24,560
Speaker 13: had a three. He drove it, you know, that game.

2737
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:28,680
Speaker 13: That's an overtime win for us. He was he was

2738
02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:30,840
Speaker 13: plus thirteen in the game, which was the best on

2739
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:35,120
Speaker 13: the team. So he's got some tools and you know,

2740
02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:36,640
Speaker 13: so far things have gone well.

2741
02:01:37,960 --> 02:01:41,400
Speaker 5: Rick, you talked about the style of play that you

2742
02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:43,920
Speaker 5: all have with your franchise of trying to play random.

2743
02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:46,920
Speaker 5: What is that balancing act like in a season like

2744
02:01:47,040 --> 02:01:49,400
Speaker 5: this where you have so many different guys playing and

2745
02:01:49,480 --> 02:01:52,280
Speaker 5: playing big minutes and after your core you want to

2746
02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:53,960
Speaker 5: be random, You want to be fast, you want to move.

2747
02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:56,680
Speaker 5: But have you had to run maybe more set plays

2748
02:01:56,720 --> 02:01:58,560
Speaker 5: than before it because you have so many different bodies

2749
02:01:58,600 --> 02:01:59,920
Speaker 5: in there, or how have you kind of a.

2750
02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:06,800
Speaker 13: Yeah, we've pretty much stuck with you know, our our

2751
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:11,240
Speaker 13: our regular format with that stuff. We are in the

2752
02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:16,080
Speaker 13: process of of making some tweaks, you know, with with

2753
02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:20,400
Speaker 13: the addition of of zoobots, and you know, he'll enter

2754
02:02:20,480 --> 02:02:23,080
Speaker 13: the lineup at some point and we want to be

2755
02:02:23,160 --> 02:02:26,800
Speaker 13: able to take advantage of his inside play. So we're

2756
02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:31,240
Speaker 13: we're working on some things behind the scenes. I think

2757
02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:36,800
Speaker 13: that they can help enhance his situation with us, and

2758
02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:38,280
Speaker 13: it can also help us.

2759
02:02:40,120 --> 02:02:44,000
Speaker 8: Use his strengths to generate good, good looks for other guys.

2760
02:02:44,080 --> 02:02:47,160
Speaker 13: You know, he puts he puts rim pressure on in

2761
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:49,760
Speaker 13: a different way and a lot of times you can

2762
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:50,840
Speaker 13: engage defenses.

2763
02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:52,680
Speaker 8: He's very good at.

2764
02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:54,600
Speaker 13: Catching the ball in the pocket and kicking it out,

2765
02:02:54,800 --> 02:02:59,600
Speaker 13: so you know, his his activity is good for attacking

2766
02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:03,720
Speaker 13: the room with him, but it's also good for kickouts

2767
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:06,520
Speaker 13: for open three. So you know, we're looking at.

2768
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:08,120
Speaker 8: A few things there.

2769
02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:13,360
Speaker 13: And you know, as this continues to unfold, and whenever

2770
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:15,760
Speaker 13: he gets into the lineup and starts playing a little bit,

2771
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:19,200
Speaker 13: you'll probably see some things a look a little bit different.

2772
02:03:20,480 --> 02:03:20,640
Speaker 8: Rick.

2773
02:03:20,680 --> 02:03:22,160
Speaker 5: I know you all are in the middle of a

2774
02:03:22,240 --> 02:03:25,800
Speaker 5: home stretch here. Do you have a timeline or an

2775
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:28,240
Speaker 5: idea of when we could see Zoobots making his pace

2776
02:03:28,280 --> 02:03:28,960
Speaker 5: your debut.

2777
02:03:30,600 --> 02:03:34,240
Speaker 13: Not an exact one. I don't see him playing this week,

2778
02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:39,640
Speaker 13: and I don't know, it's hard to say. It's hard

2779
02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:43,440
Speaker 13: to say, but I think sometime in the next two to.

2780
02:03:43,480 --> 02:03:44,800
Speaker 8: Three weeks you could see him.

2781
02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:47,480
Speaker 13: I mean, this is it is a situation where he

2782
02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:53,880
Speaker 13: turned his ankle in December pretty severely. Was it was

2783
02:03:53,960 --> 02:03:57,640
Speaker 13: deemed to be a four to six week recovery. You know,

2784
02:03:57,760 --> 02:03:59,760
Speaker 13: their team was six and twenty one at the time.

2785
02:04:00,760 --> 02:04:03,040
Speaker 13: He wanted to come back and play and try to

2786
02:04:03,080 --> 02:04:06,240
Speaker 13: help them, so he came back after two weeks and

2787
02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:08,600
Speaker 13: then it's just you know, it's just been a bit

2788
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:12,120
Speaker 13: of a yo yo thing where it's just it's remained swollen.

2789
02:04:13,480 --> 02:04:16,160
Speaker 13: He's been able to play, but not play at his

2790
02:04:16,360 --> 02:04:20,320
Speaker 13: best level. And after making a deal like this, you know,

2791
02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:24,240
Speaker 13: with the with everything involved, and with the importance of

2792
02:04:24,400 --> 02:04:29,280
Speaker 13: him to us both present and future, you know, we

2793
02:04:29,400 --> 02:04:31,720
Speaker 13: got to make sure he's right. We got to make

2794
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:35,240
Speaker 13: sure the flexibility, range of motion. You know, he still

2795
02:04:35,320 --> 02:04:39,120
Speaker 13: has swelling in there, and this is an opportunity to

2796
02:04:39,640 --> 02:04:41,600
Speaker 13: make sure that we get him two hundred percent.

2797
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Speaker 3: That's a voice of Rick Carlisle Pacers. It's a game

2798
02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:46,960
Speaker 3: day for then they got the Sixers tonight. I'm gonna

2799
02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:48,840
Speaker 3: guess a few people here at the Convention Center, here

2800
02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:51,200
Speaker 3: at the NFL Combinal slide over to Gamebridge Field House

2801
02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:54,560
Speaker 3: to watch Pacers and Sixers tonight. One more kind of

2802
02:04:54,560 --> 02:04:58,240
Speaker 3: on the Zubats front. Coach, you know you've touched stylistically

2803
02:04:58,320 --> 02:05:00,480
Speaker 3: how it is different. You know what Zoo is going

2804
02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:02,360
Speaker 3: to bring, you know, punishing the smalls and trying to

2805
02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:06,400
Speaker 3: take advantage some of that stuff. How much of the

2806
02:05:06,480 --> 02:05:08,400
Speaker 3: final twenty twenty I guess you said here in a

2807
02:05:08,440 --> 02:05:10,320
Speaker 3: couple of weeks he couldn't make his return. Do you

2808
02:05:10,400 --> 02:05:12,800
Speaker 3: find that beneficial for the likes of Aaron E. Smith

2809
02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:16,000
Speaker 3: Andrew em Hard Pascal of course, to get used to

2810
02:05:16,080 --> 02:05:18,560
Speaker 3: playing alongside of that, get used to throwing the ball

2811
02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:21,760
Speaker 3: in there, to take advantage of those opportunities. Obviously Tyresee

2812
02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:23,600
Speaker 3: will not play, But how much do you view it

2813
02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:26,280
Speaker 3: as it's beneficial for some of your other key guys

2814
02:05:26,920 --> 02:05:28,760
Speaker 3: ahead of next season to get a little bit of

2815
02:05:28,760 --> 02:05:29,480
Speaker 3: a head start on that.

2816
02:05:31,120 --> 02:05:34,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure, And it's not just beneficial for them,

2817
02:05:34,240 --> 02:05:37,240
Speaker 8: it's really important for him as well. You know, we just.

2818
02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:43,040
Speaker 13: The Clippers are more of a medium tempo team. They're

2819
02:05:43,640 --> 02:05:47,040
Speaker 13: very very well coached, you know, with Tylou and his staff.

2820
02:05:47,080 --> 02:05:48,600
Speaker 13: I mean, I think at Jeffy and Gundy as the

2821
02:05:48,720 --> 02:05:52,920
Speaker 13: defensive guy, you know, I mean, they're really they really

2822
02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:56,160
Speaker 13: have a high level coaching staff and they just their style.

2823
02:05:56,120 --> 02:05:56,760
Speaker 8: Is just different.

2824
02:05:56,960 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 13: And so you know, when Pascal came here, if you

2825
02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:03,280
Speaker 13: recall it was a little over two years ago, now,

2826
02:06:03,960 --> 02:06:06,360
Speaker 13: there was an adjustment for him, you know, because of

2827
02:06:06,480 --> 02:06:09,400
Speaker 13: the pace that we played at in Toronto, by no

2828
02:06:09,600 --> 02:06:13,920
Speaker 13: means was a slow team, but you know that that's

2829
02:06:14,720 --> 02:06:19,520
Speaker 13: that's an important element, but it really works both ways.

2830
02:06:19,600 --> 02:06:23,480
Speaker 13: It's important for the other guys playing with him, but

2831
02:06:23,520 --> 02:06:26,600
Speaker 13: it's also important for him too, and he needs to

2832
02:06:26,680 --> 02:06:28,640
Speaker 13: feel what a different system is going to feel like.

2833
02:06:30,160 --> 02:06:32,600
Speaker 3: Again, we are live here at the NFL combine Pacers

2834
02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:35,840
Speaker 3: and Sixers tonight over a gamebridge Fieldhouse. Rick Carlisle is

2835
02:06:36,040 --> 02:06:38,760
Speaker 3: with US coach. We don't hear maybe as much about

2836
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:42,000
Speaker 3: the NBA combine at least you know, from a you know,

2837
02:06:42,240 --> 02:06:45,000
Speaker 3: multi day event, but I know it's very beneficial from

2838
02:06:45,040 --> 02:06:48,440
Speaker 3: a draft standpoint. What's your history been like with the

2839
02:06:48,720 --> 02:06:50,720
Speaker 3: with the combine from an NBA side of it, and

2840
02:06:50,840 --> 02:06:54,720
Speaker 3: how beneficial do you find it from a draft evaluation standpoint?

2841
02:06:56,800 --> 02:07:00,640
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's helpful. I mean you have interviews with UH

2842
02:07:00,840 --> 02:07:06,400
Speaker 13: with prospects in your draft range and they I don't

2843
02:07:06,480 --> 02:07:10,640
Speaker 13: know that they there's there's some kind of process where

2844
02:07:11,120 --> 02:07:14,760
Speaker 13: you put in requests and you try to get you

2845
02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:19,920
Speaker 13: hope to get as many interviews as you can, you

2846
02:07:19,960 --> 02:07:21,920
Speaker 13: know oftentimes. I mean, I've been going that thing for

2847
02:07:22,840 --> 02:07:26,720
Speaker 13: twenty five years and it's actually actually longer. You know,

2848
02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:30,680
Speaker 13: used to it was, and only in recent years has

2849
02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:32,800
Speaker 13: been called the draft combine. It used to just be

2850
02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:34,520
Speaker 13: called the Chicago Free.

2851
02:07:34,480 --> 02:07:36,000
Speaker 14: Draft camp and.

2852
02:07:37,600 --> 02:07:40,760
Speaker 13: Get opportunity to sit with guys, talk with them face

2853
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:45,920
Speaker 13: to face, with your with your management staff, the head coach.

2854
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:49,440
Speaker 8: You know, our sports psychologists will be in there.

2855
02:07:50,240 --> 02:07:52,640
Speaker 14: Scouts will be in there watching these guys play for

2856
02:07:52,960 --> 02:07:56,400
Speaker 14: you know a number of years. All that is another

2857
02:07:56,560 --> 02:07:57,000
Speaker 14: chance to.

2858
02:07:58,920 --> 02:08:02,280
Speaker 13: To engage and that's questions and kind of see what's what.

2859
02:08:04,360 --> 02:08:07,440
Speaker 13: But you don't know exactly who you're gonna get, but

2860
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:08,320
Speaker 13: you hope for the best.

2861
02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:12,720
Speaker 5: Rick. I know you gave the update Sunday night about

2862
02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:17,160
Speaker 5: Tyree's coming down with shingles. Obviously that's something you don't

2863
02:08:17,160 --> 02:08:19,560
Speaker 5: want to hear, obviously going through a tough season already.

2864
02:08:19,680 --> 02:08:22,440
Speaker 5: But have you spoken to him at all. I'm sure

2865
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:24,760
Speaker 5: you probably have, But just where are his spirits at?

2866
02:08:24,840 --> 02:08:27,440
Speaker 5: Just dealing with something else in a season that clearly

2867
02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:28,480
Speaker 5: didn't go his way.

2868
02:08:30,760 --> 02:08:34,960
Speaker 13: Yeah, he came down with it last week. He was

2869
02:08:35,080 --> 02:08:39,520
Speaker 13: in the process of meeting us in Washington coming from

2870
02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:41,480
Speaker 13: I think I think he was in Mexico for the

2871
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:45,040
Speaker 13: All Star break and then he had these headaches and

2872
02:08:46,240 --> 02:08:50,360
Speaker 13: they they told him it'd be best just to go

2873
02:08:50,480 --> 02:08:53,320
Speaker 13: back to Indy, and so he did. He diverted his

2874
02:08:53,440 --> 02:08:57,440
Speaker 13: trip back to Indy and got test got tests done

2875
02:08:57,480 --> 02:08:59,720
Speaker 13: and et cetera, and it turned out that's what it was.

2876
02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:04,640
Speaker 13: And as you guys are probably aware of, his single

2877
02:09:04,720 --> 02:09:07,680
Speaker 13: is a very very very painful condition.

2878
02:09:09,280 --> 02:09:13,960
Speaker 8: It comes on it, it lasts really an unspecified.

2879
02:09:13,160 --> 02:09:13,840
Speaker 14: Amount of time.

2880
02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:17,280
Speaker 13: The hope is that you can get through it in

2881
02:09:17,440 --> 02:09:22,120
Speaker 13: the matter of a few weeks. And there are treatment

2882
02:09:22,240 --> 02:09:27,360
Speaker 13: and medicines and all that and all that, but in general,

2883
02:09:27,560 --> 02:09:31,080
Speaker 13: his spirits are are always good. I you know, I'm

2884
02:09:31,120 --> 02:09:36,480
Speaker 13: always amazed, you know, even when he had the injury

2885
02:09:36,600 --> 02:09:39,280
Speaker 13: in Game seven last year the finals. I mean, he's

2886
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:40,600
Speaker 13: just an upbeat guy, you know.

2887
02:09:40,800 --> 02:09:43,160
Speaker 8: So he will be.

2888
02:09:45,640 --> 02:09:49,920
Speaker 13: Through this at some point. Again, not exactly sure how long.

2889
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:54,000
Speaker 13: We won't see him for a while, probably at least

2890
02:09:54,240 --> 02:09:56,480
Speaker 13: a couple three weeks. I probably we probably won't see

2891
02:09:56,560 --> 02:09:59,440
Speaker 13: him until after the West Coast trip. But the hope

2892
02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:03,000
Speaker 13: is that that point that he'll be uh, he'll be healthy, uh,

2893
02:10:03,160 --> 02:10:06,800
Speaker 13: feeling well, and then and then through the through the painful.

2894
02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:08,680
Speaker 8: Part of this whole thing.

2895
02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:10,240
Speaker 6: Again.

2896
02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:12,800
Speaker 3: Rick Carlisle with us here. It's pacers and six ers tonight,

2897
02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:15,480
Speaker 3: seven o'clock over at game Bridge Field House. Coach last one,

2898
02:10:15,560 --> 02:10:18,160
Speaker 3: and as always, we thank you for the time. It's

2899
02:10:18,200 --> 02:10:21,040
Speaker 3: our first combo since we did see the NBA what

2900
02:10:21,200 --> 02:10:24,840
Speaker 3: I've called very selective punishment here with the fine a

2901
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:27,320
Speaker 3: couple of weeks back. What was your reaction when you

2902
02:10:27,400 --> 02:10:28,960
Speaker 3: saw that news from the from the league?

2903
02:10:31,400 --> 02:10:31,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, I.

2904
02:10:33,320 --> 02:10:37,280
Speaker 13: You know, I put out a statement about it.

2905
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:41,120
Speaker 8: I didn't I didn't agree with it.

2906
02:10:42,400 --> 02:10:45,080
Speaker 13: It was there was a there was a league lawyer

2907
02:10:45,200 --> 02:10:49,440
Speaker 13: that was doing the interview that kind of unilaterally decided

2908
02:10:49,560 --> 02:10:52,320
Speaker 13: that aaron Ne Smith, who had been injured the night

2909
02:10:52,400 --> 02:10:57,760
Speaker 13: before and couldn't hold the ball, should have played in

2910
02:10:57,800 --> 02:11:05,600
Speaker 13: the game, which just seems ridiculous. And during the interview process,

2911
02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:08,240
Speaker 13: I was not on it, but I but I heard details.

2912
02:11:10,160 --> 02:11:13,160
Speaker 13: We asked them if they in order to talk to

2913
02:11:13,240 --> 02:11:16,360
Speaker 13: the doctors, our doctors about it, because it's something that

2914
02:11:16,560 --> 02:11:20,200
Speaker 13: was documented by our doctors and trainers.

2915
02:11:21,400 --> 02:11:22,800
Speaker 14: They said no, they didn't need to.

2916
02:11:22,960 --> 02:11:27,480
Speaker 13: They talked to their doctors who did not examine aaron E. Smith,

2917
02:11:28,360 --> 02:11:30,920
Speaker 13: and we asked them if they wanted to talk to

2918
02:11:31,040 --> 02:11:33,720
Speaker 13: the kid, and they said no, they didn't need to.

2919
02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:39,840
Speaker 13: So was this was shocking. This was shocking to me.

2920
02:11:42,440 --> 02:11:45,839
Speaker 13: And during the interview they also asked if we considered

2921
02:11:45,880 --> 02:11:48,600
Speaker 13: dedicating him to play in a game when we were

2922
02:11:48,680 --> 02:11:55,280
Speaker 13: thirty games under five hundred. So I was very surprised,

2923
02:11:58,520 --> 02:12:02,280
Speaker 13: you know, obviously didn't agree with it. This is really

2924
02:12:02,320 --> 02:12:04,600
Speaker 13: the first time I've gone into detail about.

2925
02:12:04,400 --> 02:12:06,440
Speaker 3: It, but that was.

2926
02:12:07,920 --> 02:12:13,080
Speaker 8: That was the deal, and so yeah, that was it.

2927
02:12:15,120 --> 02:12:18,200
Speaker 3: Unbelievable. What a cluster to say the least coach is

2928
02:12:18,240 --> 02:12:21,800
Speaker 3: always we appreciate it. Good luck tonight and we'll chat

2929
02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:22,400
Speaker 3: with you next week.

2930
02:12:22,440 --> 02:12:24,680
Speaker 8: Thank you, Thanks, take care, guys.

2931
02:12:25,560 --> 02:12:29,760
Speaker 3: Rick Carlisle pay Lesslickors hotline Mark. Let's cut that last

2932
02:12:29,800 --> 02:12:32,640
Speaker 3: one for sure, and on the other side, we'll recap

2933
02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:35,560
Speaker 3: that set up the day here at the Indiana Convention Center,

2934
02:12:35,880 --> 02:12:38,760
Speaker 3: the NFL Combine Live. It's ninety three to five on

2935
02:12:38,840 --> 02:12:39,480
Speaker 3: a seventy five.

2936
02:12:55,440 --> 02:13:00,400
Speaker 2: Live from the NFL Combine in downtown Indianapolis into the

2937
02:13:00,560 --> 02:13:03,720
Speaker 2: fan morning shows with.

2938
02:13:03,960 --> 02:13:08,080
Speaker 4: The Farm's strength, nobody paying in no field and paying.

2939
02:13:08,120 --> 02:13:12,080
Speaker 6: And you don't compete next Oh, it's football all around us.

2940
02:13:12,360 --> 02:13:16,000
Speaker 4: But Rick Carlisle dropping a little bomb there as you

2941
02:13:16,040 --> 02:13:17,480
Speaker 4: guys were talking to him, the head coach of the

2942
02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:20,960
Speaker 4: Indiana Pacers system moment ago, Kevin Bowen. Pretty interesting stuff

2943
02:13:21,040 --> 02:13:24,160
Speaker 4: right there, as uh, you know, the thing I love

2944
02:13:24,240 --> 02:13:26,080
Speaker 4: when when you guys have the opportunity to talk to

2945
02:13:26,200 --> 02:13:28,560
Speaker 4: Rick is that he'll tell you guys things I think

2946
02:13:28,560 --> 02:13:29,840
Speaker 4: he just doesn't tell other people.

2947
02:13:29,960 --> 02:13:32,320
Speaker 6: And I dig that. I'm up for that all the time.

2948
02:13:32,520 --> 02:13:32,720
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2949
02:13:32,720 --> 02:13:35,120
Speaker 3: I always enjoy and appreciative of Rick and his not

2950
02:13:35,240 --> 02:13:37,600
Speaker 3: only his time of course weekly especially on a game day,

2951
02:13:37,640 --> 02:13:42,080
Speaker 3: but it's a many times as candor as well. So

2952
02:13:42,160 --> 02:13:45,160
Speaker 3: I guess news items James, from that one you asked

2953
02:13:45,200 --> 02:13:47,080
Speaker 3: him about a Viza Zoo Bots does sound like he

2954
02:13:47,160 --> 02:13:49,040
Speaker 3: will play at some point, but a couple of weeks

2955
02:13:49,080 --> 02:13:53,000
Speaker 3: away for that, but definitely mentioned that he felt like,

2956
02:13:53,320 --> 02:13:56,200
Speaker 3: you know, it's a priority to fit him into their system,

2957
02:13:56,640 --> 02:13:58,840
Speaker 3: have guys around him at least experience that at some

2958
02:13:58,920 --> 02:13:59,560
Speaker 3: point this season.

2959
02:14:00,080 --> 02:14:03,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was an interesting nugget for sure. And it

2960
02:14:03,320 --> 02:14:04,920
Speaker 5: goes back to the debate we were having, I want

2961
02:14:04,920 --> 02:14:06,880
Speaker 5: to say about a week ago, Kevin, where we were asking, Hey,

2962
02:14:07,040 --> 02:14:09,280
Speaker 5: how valuable is it for Zubas Gaal on the floor

2963
02:14:09,600 --> 02:14:12,240
Speaker 5: to play with Rick Carlisle and things of that nature,

2964
02:14:12,480 --> 02:14:14,560
Speaker 5: and we see the emphasis they be put on that,

2965
02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:17,640
Speaker 5: and then I'm thinking, I got you know, my journalistic

2966
02:14:17,800 --> 02:14:21,040
Speaker 5: you know, Rise, King of Rising media or whatever, and

2967
02:14:21,160 --> 02:14:22,640
Speaker 5: you know, I'm trying to flex my muscles here. And

2968
02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:24,520
Speaker 5: then you asked the question and he opened up even

2969
02:14:24,640 --> 02:14:28,680
Speaker 5: more about the fine for tanking quite frankly that the

2970
02:14:28,760 --> 02:14:30,840
Speaker 5: league gave to the patients, which he vi it mainly

2971
02:14:30,880 --> 02:14:31,760
Speaker 5: disagreed with. Yeah.

2972
02:14:31,800 --> 02:14:34,000
Speaker 3: So again, it was our first conversation with Rick since

2973
02:14:34,120 --> 02:14:36,840
Speaker 3: that fine came out a couple of weeks ago. Just

2974
02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:39,240
Speaker 3: to remind everybody, one hundred thousand dollars fine, it was

2975
02:14:39,280 --> 02:14:43,440
Speaker 3: a player participation point of view. And James correct me

2976
02:14:43,440 --> 02:14:48,400
Speaker 3: if I'm wrong. Initially the NBA indicated Pascal Siakam right

2977
02:14:48,480 --> 02:14:51,760
Speaker 3: in the first statement. Is that right? Yes, they singled

2978
02:14:51,760 --> 02:14:53,680
Speaker 3: Passcal Siakam and then a couple of.

2979
02:14:53,720 --> 02:14:56,400
Speaker 5: Initials two other starters, and those starters would have been

2980
02:14:56,480 --> 02:14:59,800
Speaker 5: Andrew Nimhard and aaron Ne smith Well and Rick Carlisle.

2981
02:14:59,840 --> 02:15:02,240
Speaker 5: Then shaud this and Marcus clipped this out.

2982
02:15:02,280 --> 02:15:04,600
Speaker 3: This was the final answer from Rick Carlisle just now

2983
02:15:05,280 --> 02:15:08,960
Speaker 3: on as James said, definitely not a fan by any

2984
02:15:09,000 --> 02:15:09,800
Speaker 3: means of those fines.

2985
02:15:10,200 --> 02:15:10,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, I.

2986
02:15:12,120 --> 02:15:16,440
Speaker 8: You know, I put out a statement about it. I

2987
02:15:16,560 --> 02:15:19,920
Speaker 8: didn't I didn't agree with it.

2988
02:15:21,200 --> 02:15:23,880
Speaker 13: It was there was a there was a league lawyer

2989
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:28,240
Speaker 13: that was doing the interview that kind of unilaterally decided

2990
02:15:28,360 --> 02:15:31,120
Speaker 13: that Aaron need Smith, who had been injured the night

2991
02:15:31,200 --> 02:15:36,560
Speaker 13: before and couldn't hold the ball, should have played in

2992
02:15:36,640 --> 02:15:44,400
Speaker 13: the game, which just seems ridiculous. And during the interview process,

2993
02:15:44,520 --> 02:15:47,040
Speaker 13: I was not on it, but I but I heard details.

2994
02:15:48,960 --> 02:15:52,680
Speaker 13: We asked them if they wanted to talk to the doctors,

2995
02:15:53,280 --> 02:15:56,120
Speaker 13: our doctors about it, because it's something that was documented

2996
02:15:56,960 --> 02:15:59,000
Speaker 13: by our doctors and trainers.

2997
02:16:00,240 --> 02:16:01,640
Speaker 14: They said no, they didn't need to.

2998
02:16:01,800 --> 02:16:06,280
Speaker 13: They talked to their doctors who did not examine Aarony Smith,

2999
02:16:07,160 --> 02:16:09,760
Speaker 13: and we asked them if they wanted to talk to

3000
02:16:09,840 --> 02:16:12,520
Speaker 13: the kid, and they said no, they didn't need to.

3001
02:16:13,840 --> 02:16:18,640
Speaker 8: So this was this was shocking. This was shocking to me.

3002
02:16:21,240 --> 02:16:23,240
Speaker 8: And during the interview they.

3003
02:16:23,240 --> 02:16:26,680
Speaker 13: Also asked if we considered dedicating him to play in

3004
02:16:26,760 --> 02:16:28,840
Speaker 13: a game when we were thirty games under five hundred.

3005
02:16:30,720 --> 02:16:39,480
Speaker 14: So I was very surprised, you know, obviously didn't.

3006
02:16:39,240 --> 02:16:39,720
Speaker 8: Agree with it.

3007
02:16:40,600 --> 02:16:42,360
Speaker 13: This is really the first time I've gone into any

3008
02:16:42,440 --> 02:16:43,240
Speaker 13: detail about it.

3009
02:16:43,440 --> 02:16:50,200
Speaker 8: But that was that was the deal, and so yeah,

3010
02:16:51,520 --> 02:16:51,880
Speaker 8: that was it.

3011
02:16:55,160 --> 02:16:57,440
Speaker 6: That was it, And I think most people who were

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Speaker 6: Pacers fans would agree with that too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's probably as real an answer you will get

3014
02:17:05,520 --> 02:17:08,520
Speaker 5: about a fine and the realm of tanking and the

3015
02:17:08,560 --> 02:17:11,560
Speaker 5: realm of this player should have played that you'll probably

3016
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Speaker 5: get from anybody in the league. I'm very shocked at

3017
02:17:13,920 --> 02:17:16,920
Speaker 5: the candor. Appreciate the candor for sure from Rick Carlisle,

3018
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Speaker 5: and then beyond just disagreeing, I think peeling back the

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Speaker 5: curtain of the process a little bit from his perspective

3020
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Speaker 5: was very interesting to me because you would think we

3021
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Speaker 5: were asking this question, how does that whole thing work?

3022
02:17:29,240 --> 02:17:32,600
Speaker 5: Do you physically check the player? Do you consult with

3023
02:17:33,280 --> 02:17:37,840
Speaker 5: the other teams, physicians, doctors and Cordon and Rick? That

3024
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Speaker 5: never really happens. So again I would like to hear, like,

3025
02:17:41,480 --> 02:17:44,600
Speaker 5: what is the actual process? Can the league explain what cause?

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Speaker 10: This?

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Speaker 5: To me is kind of a gray area that they

3028
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Speaker 5: need to, you know, explain, I think, well, and I would.

3029
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Speaker 3: Say this, you know, Jeff says Pacers fans should be frustrated.

3030
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Speaker 3: I would argue NBA fans should be frustrated because to

3031
02:17:57,400 --> 02:18:00,760
Speaker 3: James's point, you're telling me that's the process. You're not

3032
02:18:00,879 --> 02:18:03,480
Speaker 3: gonna interview the team doctors or if you're not gonna

3033
02:18:03,600 --> 02:18:07,120
Speaker 3: interview Aaron Nesmith as the player, like you're not examining

3034
02:18:07,160 --> 02:18:08,760
Speaker 3: the player in question. And you know, this is the

3035
02:18:08,760 --> 02:18:10,480
Speaker 3: guy that played thirty two minutes the night before with

3036
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Speaker 3: the left hand sprain.

3037
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Speaker 5: Is what he was?

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Speaker 6: You know listening, are you just looking at a charge confused?

3039
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that again has very bothersome to me. You

3040
02:18:18,080 --> 02:18:20,320
Speaker 3: know again, I've called a very selective punishment. It just

3041
02:18:20,440 --> 02:18:24,840
Speaker 3: seems like there is nothing from an actual This is

3042
02:18:24,920 --> 02:18:27,920
Speaker 3: our hardcore evidence. This is the process we stick to

3043
02:18:28,440 --> 02:18:31,560
Speaker 3: because when you're gonna come out and publicly humiliate a

3044
02:18:31,720 --> 02:18:35,959
Speaker 3: franchise along with the financial repercussions of it, you better

3045
02:18:36,080 --> 02:18:38,640
Speaker 3: have a a specific process.

3046
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Speaker 4: You follow and some hardcore evidence. You want some good

3047
02:18:41,000 --> 02:18:42,640
Speaker 4: news on the way out, Kevin, let's do it. We'll

3048
02:18:42,640 --> 02:18:44,200
Speaker 4: get into it a little bit more tomorrow. But the

3049
02:18:44,320 --> 02:18:49,279
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3050
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3051
02:18:51,560 --> 02:18:54,520
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3053
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