1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from val Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. We need to have a serious conversation 3 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: about people who are purposely stupid. And I know what 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: you're saying. What happened, Tony, Well, something purposefully stupid, so 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous. It's not obtuse right. That word doesn't satisfy. 6 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: This is about pretending that you're an intellectual. Tony Katz, 7 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today, Good to be here, good to be 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: with you find everything at tonycats dot com. Let me 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: go through this. Of course, you know that the United 10 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: States captured Nicholas Maduro, the strongman, non leader of Venezuela, 11 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 1: who did not allow for free elections. I should take 12 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: that back. Free elections happened, he did not honor the results, 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: staying in power, jail, dithlonants, killed, people destroyed. With Hugo 14 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: Chavez before him, the entire me in the entire future 15 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: of Venezuela, because if it stayed under communism there was 16 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: going to be no future. And the Venezuelan people cheered 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: when Maduro was arrested. That raid took a tremendous amount 18 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: of planning. As we know, they actually were able to 19 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: understand what his compound look like. They rebuilt it, and 20 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: they practiced going in and capturing him over and over 21 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: and over again. And when the time came, they went 22 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: in and they captured him, they cuffed him, and they 23 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: were able to get him out quick and easy. Now 24 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: it's not easy easy. I mean people were killed along 25 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: the way. Thirty two Cubans who were doing security for him, 26 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: twenty three Venezuelans who were troops. They were killed. No 27 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: Americans were harmed, not a one. In our parlance, we 28 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: would call that a successful operation. I now share with 29 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: you something that is purposefully stupid. There is somebody on 30 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: Twitter X I never heard of before. Now I know 31 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: what you're saying, Tony. Did you just say it was 32 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: on social media? Of course it was purposely stupid. Hold, 33 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: there's a reason I bring it up enough, Steva. I 34 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: don't know who this dude is. I know that this 35 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: dude has seventy one thousand followers. It's more than I 36 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: am on Twitter X. I'm at like fifty thousand. But 37 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: I never really pushed it, like, because social media was 38 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: never where I lived and breathed. And I've only recently 39 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: learned how these things are done. And honestly, if you 40 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: want to build up massive followings on Twitter, you have 41 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: to spend your life there, and I would rather spend 42 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 1: my life here. So let's go back. This guy posts 43 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: it took Delta Force. Of course, Delta force is what 44 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: went in. It took Delta force one hundred plus men 45 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: plus a dozen navy ships to capture one unarmed sixty 46 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: three year old man and his sixty nine year old wife. 47 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: And it's got a picture of Pete Hegseth giving a 48 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: thumbs up. Let me read that again. It took Delta 49 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: force one hundred plus men plus a dozen navy ships 50 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: to capture one unarmed sixty three year old man and 51 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: his sixty nine year old wife, picture of Hegseth giving 52 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: a thumbs up. That, ladies and gentlemen, is purposefully stupid. Now, 53 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: why do I bring it up? We already know why 54 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: it's purposely stupid. We'll do that part at the end. 55 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: Why do we bring it up? Because even though it's Twitter, 56 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: it's social media. People are gonna look at that and say, yeah, 57 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: we think our military so tough. It took so many 58 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: people just to get one old guy. First, if we're 59 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: talking that sixty three years old is old. I don't know. 60 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what's up. Maybe I'm showing my age. 61 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sixty three by any stretch, but still people 62 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: live to be ninety. Sixty three is still pretty young. 63 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the argument. The argument is it 64 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: was overkill. The argument is our military is somehow so 65 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: weak or so incapable that they needed all these people 66 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: to do something that would be so easy. It wasn't 67 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: so easy. It's certainly like wasn't like getting your grandma 68 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: off the couch after she fell. This is a precision operation. 69 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: And anybody who knows anything knows that in a situation 70 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: like this, you come in with what I can hear 71 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: you saying it, say it a little bit louder, overwhelming force. 72 00:04:54,200 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: That is correct. The problem with statements like this, nonsense 73 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: like this, absolute garbage, ridiculousness like this, is that it 74 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,559 Speaker 1: gets shared. This thing got four thousand likes, and people 75 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: are gonna start sharing this kind of stuff and talking 76 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: this way in every situation. Law enforcement, in military, the 77 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: idea of overwhelming force business is a key and fundamental 78 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: role because overwhelming force helps to guarantee victory and keeps 79 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: people safer. They both They've got a sixty nine year 80 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: old woman and a sixty three year old man, so 81 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: we should have sent in a sixty nine year old 82 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: woman in a sixty three year old man. You gotta 83 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: keep it fair. Who possibly would say such a thing? 84 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: And I think that we could take it out of 85 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: the parlance of this of this social mediaism, and you 86 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: can put it into anything where people get into the 87 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: idea of, oh, it's too much, Oh look what Ice 88 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: is doing. Look at all these people. Wasn't that the 89 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: thing they were somebody got arrested legal immigrants some library 90 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: and there were a whole bunch of agents, and the 91 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: left was like, lo, look at how much these people 92 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: are playing in kabuki theater, Like you need all these 93 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: agents to arrest one person. You and I have watched 94 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 1: episodes of Cops and we have seen guys out man 95 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: police officers. We've seen them out fight police officers. We've 96 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: seen the two on one fights. We've seen suspects who 97 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: are stronger than the cops. And I'm not just talking 98 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: about the female cops. Oh I'm gonna get emails for that. 99 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: But that does happen more often because men buying large, 100 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: stronger than women. It's always a group. It's always a 101 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: larger amount of the force. When you look at these 102 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: nonsense rioters and they have these clashes with police, what happens. 103 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: There's a police line, there's more riders than the police line. 104 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: There's a police line, and then some guy will get 105 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: a little too ridiculous. He'll get grabbed and swarm by 106 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: like six cops, and then the line closes in to 107 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: protect them. It's always overwhelming force. That is a listen, 108 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: not a military guy, not a law enforcement guy. But 109 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: I think every military guy, law enforcement guy. Well, I 110 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: may have the words wrong, I have the concept right. 111 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: That's safety. That's a standard operating procedure regarding safety. And 112 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: if we were to sit and think about it, you 113 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: and me and we're sitting on the barstool having a bourbon, 114 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't you think that's a better way to achieve victory 115 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: overwhelm your opponent. I mean, can't we go back to 116 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: Sun sou hold on? Let me make sure ancient Art 117 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: of War The Art of War by Son Sue Son 118 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,679 Speaker 1: Sue said, whoever is first in the field and awaits 119 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: the coming of the enemy will be fresh for the fight. 120 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: Whoever is second in the field and has to hasten 121 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: to battle will arrive exhausted. Therefore, the clever combatant imposes 122 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: as well in the enemy, but does not allow the 123 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: enemies will to be imposed on him. By holding out 124 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: advantages to him, he can cause the enemy to approach 125 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: of his own accord, or by inflicting damage, he can 126 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: make it impossible for the enemy to draw near. And 127 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: it goes on and on and on and on about 128 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: how you defeat your opponent. Oh, you should really read 129 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: Son Sue and just as a life primer in the 130 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: business context, in a philosophy context, which is really a 131 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: conversation about reading stoics. If you're not reading Marcus Aurelius, 132 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: you're making a huge mistake. The Meditations by Marcus Aurelius 133 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: a Relius. By the way, au r E l I 134 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: U s Roman Empire. I'm sorry, yeah, Roman Empire. Yeah, 135 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: I have that right, he was the Empire. I have 136 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: to look up the timing one sixty one to one. 137 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: And stoicism is how does one describe stoicism. It's I 138 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: don't think it's a lack of emotion. I would argue 139 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: it's a control of emotion. It's about focus, it's about 140 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: too many ways, the recognition that sacrifice is of value, 141 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: about being able to stand strong. And again, I go 142 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: back to the emotion, which is where we are and 143 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: people are on the political right. You might not be 144 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: on the political right with me, but understand where I 145 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: come from versus the political left. The political left is 146 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: all emotional. I think it's a valueless proposition. Emotions are good. 147 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: Running a life, a lifestyle, a government, a society on 148 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: emotions terrible and horrific, awful idea. It doesn't work. Marxism 149 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: tries to exacerbate the emotional side. I am not there 150 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: for that. There has to be a rational order to 151 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: the universe, in a rational order to things. That's I guess, 152 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: a good way to engage stoicism. Right, These things matter. 153 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: They're unbelievably helpful in trying to understand yourself in all ways, 154 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: in all things, life is better when you can control 155 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: your emotions and your emotions don't control you. In all ways, 156 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: and in all things, life is better when you can 157 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: control your emotions and your emotions do not control you. 158 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: That is true of men, It is true of women, 159 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: is true of sons, and daughters, husbands and wives, brothers 160 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: and sisters, everyone. It's important. No one thinks that one 161 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: should walk into a battle unready for battle. Also, as 162 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: we state with the amount of Venezuelans and Cubans were killed, 163 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't about one man and one woman. It was 164 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: about having to defeat what you didn't know was the 165 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: army because Maduro lived on an army base. It was 166 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: about defeating them to be able to get the target. 167 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: The ignorance, the willful ignorance of this post, and I 168 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: mean it is what it is. Do you know how 169 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: purposely stupid you have to be to make a statement 170 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: like the one below and think it's smart. That's what 171 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: I put on Twitter X, purposefully stupid. I have to 172 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: assume the guy knows better. But he's like, ah, I'll 173 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: get in a dig. Look at me, there's a dig. 174 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: It's not a dig. It is a great example of 175 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: why people like him and people who engage this kind 176 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: of philosophy hate Trump, hate heg Seth with everything in you. 177 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: It's why they cannot be allowed to lead. You can't 178 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: let them lead the country. They cannot get votes. They're 179 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: not good enough, They're fundamentally dumb. They are what they 180 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: are what they are. Now, you could say to me, 181 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, Tony, when these people do have power, they 182 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: seem to be willing to fight. Oh, you're talking about 183 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: an old, cool vestige of Democrats that is falling by 184 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: the wayside every single day. They aren't willing. More and 185 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: more and more they aren't willing. They would continue to 186 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: allow the abuses, allow China and Russia to get closer 187 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: and closer, to gain more control in South America, give 188 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: up the western hemisphere and allow themselves to be overtaken 189 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: because their ignorance forces it. And they would look at 190 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: this and say it's too much. You still have a 191 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: keem Jeffrey saying it was wrong to take Maduro. The 192 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: people of Venezuela are cheering, and he is like, oh, 193 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: what an awful thing you could say to me, Tony. 194 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: I think you're overreacting a little bit to one post. 195 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: It's not really about the post, is it. It's about 196 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: an idea. It's about an absolute viciousness from the left 197 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: to distort all things. And as Melanie Phillips talks about 198 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: and we talk about here, a destroying reason. It's an 199 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: illogical statement that people in an illogical world will say, yeah, 200 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: why they need so many people, that's just so unfair. 201 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: These are the same people who look at twelve hundred 202 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: murdered in Israel, then see the response and say, well, 203 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: that's just too much. What do you mean it's too much? 204 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: Too much? Too much? What the hell is that it 205 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: isn't too much? Every member of Hamas should be killed 206 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: and wiped off the earth, that anybody who supports them gone, 207 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: and then it'll be almost just enough. No. My concern 208 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: is that things like this permeate. The stupidity grows, and 209 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: we need to be people who call it out and 210 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: stop it before it destroys us, before the purposefully stupid 211 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: get us hurt. Good job by Delta Force. This is 212 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 213 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's devastating. I mean, I mean it's 214 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: absolutely tragedy. My heart goes out to her, to her family. 215 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know the circumstances. I haven't seen 216 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: the actual video, but what a life is loft? I mean, 217 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: it's a tragedy and absolutely and you know my views. 218 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: I support ICE about deporting criminals. I don't support and 219 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: understand if you want to target otherwise hardworking people. 220 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: And I think that's where a lot of people are. 221 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened that made John Fetterman a 222 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: voice of reason. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to 223 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: be here, good to be with you. That's the center 224 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: from Pennsylvania Democrat who the Democrats hate. They're gonna vote 225 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: him out office. They're going to spend money to vote 226 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: him out of office. That's because of his support for Israel. 227 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: But in this commerce about this Ice agent. Remember this 228 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: is a shooting involving an ICE agent and that left 229 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: a woman dead. That's different how the Democrats are screaming 230 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: Ice murdered a woman. They murder her in cold blood. 231 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: Ice is the Gestapo. Remember this, The political left wants 232 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: to see Ice agents killed. Now, you say to me, 233 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: that's harsh, and I'll say to you, I'm looking at 234 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: what they're saying, and I don't know how one could 235 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: rationally come to any other conclusion. Remember where the people 236 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: who said from the very beginning, and I know Scott 237 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: Jennings is now talking about it, which is super great. 238 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: The left has been saying Trump is a threat. Trump 239 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: is a threat. Trump is a threat. They've been saying 240 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: it for years because they were looking for a lone wolf. 241 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: They were looking for somebody to kill Donald Trump, and 242 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: they had somebody give it a shot in Butler, Pennsylvania. 243 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: Thank goodness it didn't happen. We don't want a talk 244 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: about it often. But you understand that the horror of 245 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk's assassination is that we saw it more than 246 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: it happened, is that they did it right in front 247 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: of us, and they didn't give a blank Do you 248 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: know how they would have cheered if Trump had been 249 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: killed in that moment? What is our mind like if 250 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: we had watched It's a question and it's one that 251 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad that we don't have to answer. I wish 252 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: we didn't have to answer it regarding Charlie Kirk, but 253 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: they want. I mean, the call for the lone wolf, 254 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: Trump's a threat. Trump's a threat. We have to do somebody, 255 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: won't somebody do something? Wing Wink. That's what's happening here 256 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: with ice agents and the political left, And what Fetterman 257 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: is saying is can everybody just calm down for a bit. 258 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: I don't support that. I never have on that. I 259 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 2: remain pro pro strongly immigration, and that's never going to change. 260 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 2: So let's see here we are now where a woman instead, 261 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: and that's tragedy and you know, we'll know, you know 262 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 2: the circumstances. I'm not going to make any judgment other 263 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: than just express my sympathy for the family. I mean, 264 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: just what a tragedy. 265 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: The mayor of Minneapolis said that I should get the 266 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: half out of their city. You think they should get out. 267 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not that close to the kind of 268 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: violence and the tragedy, so I don't want to judge that. 269 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: But for me, I think it's all probably always more 270 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 2: helpful to turn the temperature down. 271 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: That is a Democrat saying, can we find out what 272 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: happened first? Can everybody not get crazy? And the mayor 273 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: of Minneapolis, Jacob Fray screaming, hey, Ice, get the blank 274 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: out of Minneapolis, does no good. By the way, tough 275 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: guy Frey is. He is such a beta male child. 276 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,239 Speaker 1: Show that guy to your kids and then tell your 277 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: kids to start with weights. Immediately. You've got Jacob Fray, 278 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: You've got this woman who is the tenant manager there 279 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: in New York see a weaver. Look how tough they are, 280 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: and look how good they are because they utilize the 281 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: force of government. These are the people who got picked 282 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: last for kickball, and now they're taking it out on 283 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: all of us with their Marxist pseudo intellectualism. They're not tough. 284 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: Jacob Fray a tough. Seriously, get your kids lifting weights, 285 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: more testosterone something you don't want to end up full Fray, 286 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: because full Pray is one step away from that chick 287 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: in New York. This is Tony Katz today. So was 288 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: it an act of domestic terrorism? That's what Homeland Security 289 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: said regarding the woman who was in her car blocking 290 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: traffic when she backed up, didn't listen to officers, started 291 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: at and then turned where officer was, and then she 292 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: was shot and killed. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, Good 293 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: to be here, Good to be with you. The Secretary 294 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: of Homeland Security, Christy Nome, had a presser in New 295 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: York talking about the arrests and deportations of illegal alien criminals, 296 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: and so I wanted to share some of that with you. 297 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: But it was interesting the immediate response of domestic terrorist. 298 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 1: This woman was a domestic terrorist. Now the left will 299 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: tell you this was a mom. You killed a mom, 300 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: and then people like Chris Hayes, as I pointed out 301 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: from ms NOW. Miss Now went on Stephen Colbert's show 302 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: and basically told a false not basically a false story 303 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: about what happened. Claimed the kid was in the car. No, 304 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: this woman's child was not in the car. That didn't happen. 305 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: Nor did Chris Hayes admit to the fact that this 306 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: woman was blocking traffic. There are reports that she had 307 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: been engaged in trying to coordinate people to block traffic 308 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: for immigrations and customers enforcement, that she was inscain that 309 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: she didn't listen to officers, that she was parked sideways, 310 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: blocking traffic in a roadway. I mean, there is a 311 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: whole moment in the video where the car that she's in, 312 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: the SUV I think it's a Honda Pilot, kind of 313 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: kind of spins out on a piece of ice. If 314 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: the ice wasn't there is the officer struck like head on, 315 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: like flying, as opposed to just swiped. I don't know 316 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: if in the world of law enforcement it's a would 317 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: the expression be a good shoot. I'm not trying to 318 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: downplay it. I say an investigation, But these people screaming 319 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: ices murderers, ICE's gestapo. There's no place for them. They're despicable. 320 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: But it brings up now this conversation of immediately branding 321 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: this woman a domestic terrorist, which is really interesting because 322 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: to you and me, it might hit the ear really awful. Right, 323 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: we don't think like that. We're like, boa, first, give 324 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: us what happened? What is that? That is the Trump 325 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: administration using leftist tactics against them domestic arterists. I'm sorry, 326 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 1: what domestiarists? We said, domestic terroists. They're domestic terrorists. And 327 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: now there it is. You have painted the story, you 328 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: have painted the subject. And did the left immediately go 329 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: to murder and gestapo? Oh and if you take a 330 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: look all of the leftists out there and posting on 331 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: their social media, this woman was what not just a mom, 332 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: not an American citizen? Legal observer watch for that term. 333 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: It is freaking everywhere. Some people who were reaching out 334 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: to me about this, like, yeah, I see it too, 335 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: You see it too, We all see it. If you 336 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: haven't yet because you're you know, living a life and 337 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: you're not twenty four to seven in this mucket meer 338 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: like me, uh, start start paying attention. Just see if 339 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: you notice legal observer and especially in this story and 340 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: you'll be like, oh my gosh, how many times does 341 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: this come up? It's as if the left got the memo. 342 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: Remember when Kamala Harris's campaign was all about joy. It 343 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: was the campaign of joy, same thing. Everybody was talking 344 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: about joy. Everything was joy. It was all so much joy, 345 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: joy to joy, joy Joy. Oh what but yeah, I 346 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: did that to the thound song loud what I can't 347 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: have a past? How dare you? Everything was about the joy, 348 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: nothing but the joy, twenty four to seven joy, because 349 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: that was the narrative. The narrative here is legal observer. 350 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: She didn't do anything wrong. She was just a legal 351 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: observer a roadway with a vehicle and then not listening 352 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: to the orders of law enforcement. Now, I do think 353 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: there's an interesting question and one of the things I'd 354 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: like to get an answer to if can ice immigrations 355 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: and customs enforcement or do you off the road or 356 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: do you need a law enforcement as a local police 357 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: to do that or state police to do that. I'm 358 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: not condoning anything this woman did. I will say for 359 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: the record, this woman put herself in a position to 360 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: have bad things happen, blocking the roadway, as is reported, 361 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: trying to engage and instigate with Ice looking for the 362 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: issue and then not listening to orders. The question before 363 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: us is, and I mean not the question, but a 364 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: question that I have. Can Ice do that? I would 365 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: assume that, in pursuit of their duties, they can do that. 366 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that is written into some code and some 367 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: law somewhere. I would assume that to be accurate, that 368 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: they can order somebody out of a vehicle, do a 369 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: whole host of things. Now you say to me, well, 370 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: she's an American citizen. She doesn't have to listen what 371 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: an American citizen doesn't have to listen to law enforcement? Well, 372 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: it's obvious it's not law enforcement. What did she know? 373 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: When did she know it? Did she ask questions? Did 374 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: she try and get information? Was it ascertained? I don't 375 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: believe in the American losing rights at all, in the 376 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: slightest I'm saying that there were two moments where she 377 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: didn't have to do the thing. She did three actually, 378 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: and she did them all. I didn't want her shot. 379 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: I don't want anybody's shot. I want I used to 380 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: do their job, and I want people not to be 381 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: criminally insane. But as we discussed earlier, it is very 382 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: obvious that these people want to kill ICE agents, and 383 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: so we're also clear it's like they were waiting for 384 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: this moment, like the left is overjoyed about this moment. 385 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: You know how much they were gitting up with George 386 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: Floyd type riot last night, the political left. I'm amazed 387 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: it didn't happen. I don't know about you. I'm amazed. 388 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: And some people were like, Tony, it's it's it's really 389 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: cold and this woman is white. They're not gonna do that. 390 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: You're not gonna have those riots. And my immediate response is, 391 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: I hear you. I don't believe that. I don't think 392 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: that you now have a case of well, we'd be 393 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: really angry at Ice, but the dead woman's white, So 394 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: what evs the the The hatred is ideological and the 395 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: woman in question can be painted as the oppressed versus 396 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: the ICE suppressor, so it fits their narrative and their dogma. 397 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: So I I do you understand? Am I making am 398 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: I making sense? Like I hear you when you say 399 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: if the woman was black, because these people are all 400 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: identity based, they would they would have engaged the riots, 401 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: and they did surround the courthouse, they did break windows 402 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: and things like that, and then they were chanting weird stuff. 403 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: Do I have? Do I have the weird stuff that 404 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: they were chanting? I hold on, I know I do. 405 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: I know I do because I saw Anthony Know post 406 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: about it. Here it is. You want to talk about weird, 407 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: you want to talk about weird. This is some of 408 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: the stuff that was being chanted last night. They're chanting 409 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: about stolen land. So my, my, by the way, there's 410 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of people, a lot of people, and that's 411 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: a thousand people plus. I'm saying that their ideology is 412 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: more than and just color of skin. When you're talking 413 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: about the Marxist as long as you can paint it 414 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: as oppressed appressor, you're good. Right, It's fine. You're gonna 415 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna get people on your side. You're 416 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: gonna totally be able to do this. So that's the 417 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: the the the idea that the riot didn't happen, and 418 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: the left of jitting it up to me was kind 419 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: of amazing. I was was shocked that it did not 420 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: take place. Meanwhile, Christy No, Homeland Security secretary, this presser 421 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: that that took place, let me bring you some of 422 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: that right here. 423 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 3: And today we're here to talk about an operation that's 424 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: been going on for several months. In fact, after an 425 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 3: incident happened here in New York City, UH that brought 426 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: us to a point where we recognized that we had 427 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: to work together in order to bring illegal criminal aliens 428 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 3: to justice. Nearly six months ago, two criminal illegal aliens 429 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: attacked an off duty Customs and Border Protection agent and 430 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 3: his friend while they were sitting on a rock in 431 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 3: a park after hours enjoying the evening together. These two 432 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: criminals came and attempted to rob them, and it ended 433 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 3: up where they bravely fought back. This officer defended himself 434 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: and his friend, but not before being shot in the 435 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: face and in the arm by one of these criminals. 436 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: Immediately after, the men and women of the Homeland Security 437 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 3: Investigations worked with NYPD, leading to the arrest of that 438 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 3: gunman in just two hours. Within twenty eight hours, the 439 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: second assailant was arrested as well, and those individuals have 440 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 3: been brought to justice. But those individuals would have never 441 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: been in this country if they hadn't been allowed in 442 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 3: by the Biden administration when they ignored our federal laws 443 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 3: and allowed them to come in illegally. Now, the officer 444 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: that was injured doesn't seek public attention. He wishes to 445 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: remain anonymous. But he had a distinguished career in a 446 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,239 Speaker 3: legacy of service and continues to do so. But his 447 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 3: life was forever altered by this heinous crime. His attackers 448 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: never should have been in this country, and they've been 449 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 3: protected and were protected up until that point by sanctuary 450 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 3: city policies. In fact, they had long criminal raps sheets 451 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: and were released by the Biden administration and continued to 452 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: be released by leaders in this city to perpetuate crimes 453 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 3: against the citizens that live here. During our investigation, we 454 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: learned that these scumbags were affiliated with the transnational criminal organization, 455 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 3: the notorious Triniturist gang in New York. We began to 456 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: target every single last person that is affiliated with them 457 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 3: and recognize that they needed to be brought to justice. 458 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: The American people deserve dignity, they deserve justice, and we 459 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 3: deliver both. So we launched Operation Salvo here in New 460 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 3: York City. 461 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: Now, I didn't know she was going to get into 462 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: some of these I didn't know she was going to 463 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: start with some of these other things. I thought she 464 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: was going to start with Minneapolis, but I'm going to 465 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: stick with it because first the language, the language is 466 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: meant to connect with everyday Americans and who cares about 467 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: elitist progressives who think that criminal activity is okay and 468 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: fine as long as those criminals vote for them. This 469 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: is what people voted for. It can't be said enough. 470 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: The more the left screams about it and mainstream media 471 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: screams about it, really is what we're talking about, cable news, etc. 472 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: You must remind yourself that this is what people voted for. 473 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: They're screams, their howls are not representative of where Americans 474 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: are at. We want illegal aliens off out of the 475 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: country because they broke the law, and we want criminals 476 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: off the street because they do us harm. Two things. Well, 477 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: they didn't break any laws. Why are you after illegal immigrants. Well, 478 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: because they broke the law. They may not be involved 479 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: in something violent against me at the moment, but we 480 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: still can't. I'll just allow lawbreaking because you can allow 481 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: law breaking. How many of you are going to not 482 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: pay your taxes? Oh my gosh, that has a lot 483 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: of hands. That's a tremendous number of hands right there. 484 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: But back to the Secretary. 485 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 3: Operation Salvo was a cooperation of the resources of CBP, 486 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 3: HSI RO and also the federal prosecutors from the Southern 487 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: District of New York. The New York County District Attorney's 488 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 3: Office also participated in this operation. We've arrested fifty four 489 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 3: individuals as a part of Operations Salvo since its exception 490 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: just a few months ago. Those arrested are violent trans 491 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: national gang members in affiliates associated with Trinitarios, who are 492 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 3: responsible for weapons trafficking, for human smuggling, for narcotics distribution, 493 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 3: and for armed robberies. They had perpetuated previous violent attacks 494 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 3: across the city of New York City. 495 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: And these kinds of things are happening all across the country. 496 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: And this is, as I said, what people voted to 497 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: do away with of the law. 498 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 3: In every single thing the Trump administration does, we put 499 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: the American people first. Operation Salvo has proven that by 500 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,239 Speaker 3: taking fifty four dangerous individuals off of our streets and 501 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 3: protecting the people who live here in this city. Now. 502 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 3: Also thanks to President Trump, we have two point six 503 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: million people who have left our country who shouldn't have 504 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: been here in the first place. 505 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: They were here. 506 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 3: Illegally, and over six hundred and fifty thousand of them 507 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: were arrested, detained, and deported back to their home countries. 508 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: Two million of them left volunteer voluntarily. Excellent, again what 509 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: we voted for. So I really thought she was going 510 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: to get into, at least in that first part what 511 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: happened in Minneapolis. I'm sure. I'm sure it's going to 512 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: get talked to it. Guaranteed, I'll bring it to you. 513 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: Keep it here. 514 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 4: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats today. I think 515 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 4: some comics go the route of I'm going to just 516 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 4: say F Trump every all the time, or that's their comedy. 517 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 4: And I think, well, now a little bit, you're being 518 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 4: co opted because you're so angry. 519 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: You've been lulled. It's like a siren leading you into 520 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: the rocks. 521 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 4: You've been lulled into just saying Trump, F Trump, F Trump. 522 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: Screw this guy, you know. And I think you've. 523 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 4: Now put down your best weapon, which is being funny, 524 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 4: and you've exchanged it for anger. 525 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: And that and Conan O'Brien is completely correct, Tony Katz, 526 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, Good to be here, good to be 527 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 1: with you, be cutting be thinking, engage the policy, mock 528 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: and do that with all the politicos. But no, they 529 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: all need to be Jimmy Kimmel. We should be clear. 530 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel is a is not a host. He's not 531 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: doing late night TV. It's ugly what ABC allows. It's 532 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: ugly that there are still sponsors. Why would anybody want 533 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: to be associated with it. It's just not valuable. But 534 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: amongst his peer group that has millions of dollars in 535 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: all this influence, it's great and that's why he does it. 536 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: I've often argued that the reason these shows are still 537 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: allowed on television is that it's the way of the 538 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: network giving a wink and a nod to their friends, saying, hey, 539 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 1: we know what we have to cover in the news, 540 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 1: but you know how we really feel. It's I don't 541 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: know if that's the ego or the id, it's one 542 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: or the other, but that's what late night TV has become, 543 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: and too Conan O'Brien's point right there. All the late 544 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: night hosts, sans Gutfeldt, laid down their best weapon, the 545 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: ability to be funny and reach an audience. But the 546 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: networks clearly don't care about reaching the audience, So what 547 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: does it matter. Everything at Tony kats dot com Tomorrow 548 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: everyone can take care