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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 3: And again the hypocrisy has just been unbelievable. You know,

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Speaker 3: You know what happened to the Second Amendment absolutists. You

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Speaker 2: Possession of a firearm at a rally.

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Speaker 3: That's something that again, if we had said that about

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think it's a really important just to

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, but this is what happens when you

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Speaker 1: put Molly jong Fast on MS now and you think she's.

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Speaker 2: An intellectual and for Joe Scarborough.

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Speaker 1: You have athletes not engaged in a conversation of First

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Speaker 2: It's a conversation of a guy skier by.

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Speaker 1: The last name of Hess saying that he doesn't ski

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Speaker 1: know that that's just wrong. It's not a question of

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Speaker 1: First Amendment. It's a question of what a jerk. We

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Speaker 1: Good to be here, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: If you don't like.

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Speaker 1: The fact that the president put out a post calling

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Speaker 1: But this skier Hunter Hess, It's like, I don't think

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Speaker 1: curious about where mixed emotions become full emotions. There are

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Speaker 1: And if you don't like me saying that, don't take

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Speaker 1: because I'm wearing the flag doesn't mean I represent everything

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Speaker 1: If you say that you don't ski for your country,

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Speaker 1: messed up. That is messed up. I represent the country.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep our issues hours like other countries have their issues.

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Speaker 1: Guys grinding on each other. Yeah, it wasn't what I

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Speaker 1: That's all that matters to these people. The Bad Bunny

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Speaker 1: The presentation was okay. The music is not what I'm

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Speaker 2: But so what.

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Speaker 1: The people getting angry about this are out of their

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Speaker 2: You don't understand this is a cultural attack.

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Speaker 1: They win by a score of twenty nine to thirteen,

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Speaker 1: As long as the Patriots didn't win, everything.

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Speaker 1: be in. He had someone he loved and he was

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Speaker 1: told he couldn't have that woman. That's Camilla Parker Bowles.

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Speaker 1: That's his wife now, the Queen Consort as she has known.

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Speaker 1: He comes out of this looking like a guy who's

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Speaker 1: stuck to his guns. Doesn't mean that everything he does

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Speaker 1: is normal. All right, enough, royal family stuff. But I

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Speaker 1: bring up Andrew for a specific reason because that was

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Speaker 1: one of the questions really about the royal family that

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Speaker 1: comes up regarding the Epstein files because of Andrew's connection

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Speaker 1: to Jeffrey Epstein and clearly including imagery some very very

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Speaker 1: unacceptable behavior.

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Speaker 9: Family, Do you think that Britain's royal family has questions

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Speaker 9: this time?

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Speaker 7: So to you to mention, well, we would, we would

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Speaker 7: love to hear you know, from from anyone. Obviously, if

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Speaker 7: I can't subpoena in foreign countries, I would have done

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Speaker 7: that in.

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Speaker 2: The Biden investigation.

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Speaker 9: But if you have anything, and I'll just add one

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Speaker 9: thing that that the attorney for for miss Maxwell said

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Speaker 9: that she has no.

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Speaker 10: Indication and would say that neither presidents Trump or Clinton

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Speaker 10: are culpable.

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Speaker 7: For any wrongdoing.

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Speaker 10: And that's one thing they said in his opening statement

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Speaker 10: to us today.

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Speaker 1: That's the lawyer for Julane Maxwell. So the question about

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Speaker 1: the royals has to do with Prince Andrew. How am

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Speaker 1: I supposed to suppeena him? He's not even prince anymore.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's prince anymore. But then he turns

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Speaker 1: it over to Andy Biggs, a Republican from Arizona, and

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Speaker 1: the lawyer said, Julaine Maxwell's clear Trump and Clinton didn't

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Speaker 1: do anything wrong.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a statement.

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Speaker 1: That is a statements, and to say it in that way,

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Speaker 1: one would argue, Okay, these two are exonerated.

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Speaker 2: But that's not how the left is going to do it.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, it's not gonna stop the little

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Speaker 1: silly social media trolls and the people on ms now

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Speaker 1: and the commentators at CNN who don't care about what

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Speaker 1: actually happened.

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Speaker 2: They only care about destruction.

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Speaker 7: Relin Maxwell put under pressure to stay signent?

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Speaker 8: Was Gillaim Maxwell put under pressure to stay signent today?

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Speaker 2: I have no idea imact suspicious?

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Speaker 7: How would I have no idea? I mean, she was

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Speaker 7: given an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: We would have brought her in months ago, but.

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Speaker 7: She's indicated she was going to plead the fifth and

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Speaker 7: unfortunately she had an opportunity today to answer her questions

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Speaker 7: that every American has questions that would be very important

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Speaker 7: in this investigation, and she chose to invoke at fifth

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Speaker 7: a mendment rush for truefite.

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Speaker 4: What her lawyer said about President Trump and Clinton?

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Speaker 8: And do you think that there's anything more to do

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Speaker 8: with Gleiam Maxwell now that she planted fit?

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Speaker 7: Correct me if I'm roman what the Just to be clear,

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Speaker 7: what the what her attorney said Maxwell did to her

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Speaker 7: attorney said that she would answer questions if she.

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Speaker 9: Would granted clemency the president.

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Speaker 2: And that she went on to say about Clinton and.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, but he went on to expand that The other

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Speaker 10: thing is, he pointed out a number of times that

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Speaker 10: she has a habeas corpus petition pending for a new

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Speaker 10: trial and release, and that's why she is not going

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Speaker 10: to answer questions.

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Speaker 1: And for the record, I mean, she doesn't have to.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't have to answer the questions. Oh do I

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Speaker 1: think she's guilty. I think she's absolutely guilty of procuring

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Speaker 1: young girls and seducing them and then bring them into

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Speaker 1: this life and holding them. I absolutely do, based on

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Speaker 1: everything I have seen. Now, if something else comes up,

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Speaker 1: will pay attention to it. But of course she wants clemency.

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Speaker 1: Of course she wants a deal that goes without saying

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Speaker 1: should she get a deal, Absolutely not not. My take

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Speaker 1: is absolutely not. So this is going to continue. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna see more on this, and you're just gonna see

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Speaker 1: madness from the left. And always remember, what they want

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Speaker 1: is political scalps. What they want is political power. They

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Speaker 1: don't actually care if children were abused. I think we

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Speaker 1: should care if children were abused.

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Speaker 2: They not like us, They really really not like us.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 1: So we're now on a full week of this Nancy

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Speaker 1: Guthrie story, the mother of Today's show host Savannah Guthrie

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Speaker 1: and kidnapped, missing, taken hostage.

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Speaker 2: There's ransom notes. Allow me.

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Speaker 1: I do not know what's going on anymore at all,

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today, Good to be here, Good

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Speaker 1: to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Deadlines come and deadlines.

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Speaker 1: Go, and their talk, their statements being made by Savannah

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Speaker 1: and by her siblings. They're trying to figure out where

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Speaker 1: their mother is. I do not deny that this whole

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Speaker 1: thing is frightening. Is all get out. And if you're

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Speaker 1: anybody in the public eye or not in the public eye,

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Speaker 1: the idea that you're going after family for money, you're

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Speaker 1: going to after family for something else. This is the

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Speaker 1: stuff that keeps people up at night. What I'm saying

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Speaker 1: is I cannot follow the entirety of the story, how

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Speaker 1: it's turning this way. And oh wait they found this,

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Speaker 1: and no, wait they have a question about that, and

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Speaker 1: oh look there's this. Oh this person was faking kidnapping somebody.

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Speaker 1: And these people got arrested. I maybe other people are

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Speaker 1: better at this. Maybe it's why I never got into

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Speaker 1: true crime, which is still so stunningly popular all across

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Speaker 1: the nation true crime podcast.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's remarkable. I can't I can't follow it.

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Speaker 2: I can't. I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: That keeps me from being able to dig in. Do

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Speaker 1: I think that anybody is guilty of some level of misconduct?

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Speaker 2: I have absolutely no idea.

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Speaker 1: Am I going to be surprised if there's somebody connected

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Speaker 1: to the Guthrie family who did this all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting thoughts of Fargo in my head. Nothing's going

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Speaker 1: to surprise me. Although it might be surprising, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's just it.

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Speaker 1: It all seems to have Like in the beginning, I

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Speaker 1: really felt that, all right, there was an idea of

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Speaker 1: what had happened here. This was a very coordinated attack.

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Speaker 1: This was very deliberate and purposeful and clearly for for money.

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Speaker 2: And now I'm looking at this and saying, everybody, here's doesn't.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem not only does this alleged kidnap or

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Speaker 1: know what they're doing. I'm not sure I have faith

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Speaker 1: in the police. And then there was a conversation where

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Speaker 1: I was in a competent the sheriff was at a

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Speaker 1: basketball game, and what do you you're at a basketball game.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that when you've got a missing person

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Speaker 1: story of this strength, you allow yourself a little bit

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Speaker 1: of vacation time. If you went out to dinner with

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Speaker 1: your wife, that would be one thing you don't. You

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Speaker 1: don't go to a to a basketball game. And that's

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Speaker 1: why the whole thing just becomes very very awkward for

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Speaker 1: me to follow, or maybe said differently, is this really

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Speaker 1: a story of total ineptness and what we can expect

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Speaker 1: from law enforcement going forward?

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Speaker 2: Which is really rude, Like I'm attacking law enforce. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if they've done anything wrong. They do so

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Speaker 2: many good things. But you see these stories and you're like,

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Speaker 2: is everyone just just incompetent? I don't know, man, I

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 1: I simply cannot follow what's going on. I hope this

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Speaker 1: woman is all right, I really truly do. I hope

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Speaker 1: they find you did this. That's where I can leave it.

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Speaker 1: As for iran warning of attacks on US basis of

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Speaker 1: Washington strikes, blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah.

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Speaker 2: We've heard this story.

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Speaker 1: We've heard it again and again and over and over,

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Speaker 1: and it's meaningless. Iran threatening the United States happens all

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Speaker 1: the time. Whether there are sanctions, whether there are no sanctions,

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Speaker 1: whether there's the threat of military action or there's no threat,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: This was an.

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Speaker 1: Interview with the Iranian Foreign minister with Al Jazeera.

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Speaker 2: In my view, this is very clear.

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Speaker 1: If the US attacks US, it is evident that we

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Speaker 1: don't have the ability and access to attack US territory

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Speaker 1: and therefore have to attack or retaliate to US bases

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Speaker 1: in the region, and unfortunately, US bases are spread all

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Speaker 1: over the region. Okay, listen, listen carefully. You're gonna do

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Speaker 1: what you do. We're gonna do what we do, and

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Speaker 1: that's it. But if we can help the people rise

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Speaker 1: up against the Ayatola and you, ye absolute low life,

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Speaker 1: and take you out of the picture so the people

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Speaker 1: can live free, that's great. This is why we have

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Speaker 1: said from the beginning, you can move the USS Abraham

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Speaker 1: Lincoln into the Gulf, and you can move the destroyers

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Speaker 1: around it. I don't know what you're expecting to get.

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Speaker 1: What is the end result? How does that move things

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Speaker 1: for the people on the ground. And I'm still telling

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Speaker 1: you I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Taking out a military base is one thing.

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Speaker 1: You have to crack the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps in

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Speaker 1: order for them not to be killing the people in

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Speaker 1: the streets, which, by the way, is still going on.

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Speaker 1: President Trump never could have believed, never could have believed

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Speaker 1: that Iran wasn't going to execute people.

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Speaker 2: They'd been executing everybody they can find, and people have

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Speaker 2: been afraid to leave their homes.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have to get back out on the streets.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have to keep getting loud. They got to

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Speaker 1: push back. They got to figure out a fight back mechanism.

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Speaker 1: And that's where I want to know how we can help.

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Speaker 1: I want those people to have free lives.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Netanyahoo is scheduled to have a conversation with Trump about this.

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Speaker 1: I think NYA. Who's coming to town. Oh, Tucker Carlson's

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Speaker 1: very upset about it. Oh, very very upset, because Tucker,

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Speaker 1: you know, those Iranians would be fine if it wasn't

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Speaker 1: for those meddling kids. How many more times is that

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Speaker 1: guy gotta be wrong? Good gosh, how the mighty have fallen?

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Speaker 1: Find everything at Tony kats dot com.

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Speaker 2: I'll catch you tomorrow. Everyone, take care

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Speaker 10: In a NA