WEBVTT - The Dog Stars 0:00:01.690 --> 0:00:03.330 The Frames Per Second Podcast. 0:00:03.570 --> 0:00:12.030 All right, welcome to the Frames Per Second Podcast, where 0:00:12.050 --> 0:00:14.050 we are reviewing the new film. 0:00:14.750 --> 0:00:20.570 The Dog Stars, or Dog Stars, no V. No V. 0:00:20.750 --> 0:00:24.660 No V. I am joined today, you heard the voice, 0:00:24.700 --> 0:00:28.360 that's Ron. Yo, what up, man? Beside Ron, I got Kim. 0:00:28.380 --> 0:00:29.180 Hola. 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.320 And beside me, I have Mike Seatown. Yo. With the 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:37.639 corduroy shorts. And the corduroy shorts. Why did that need 0:00:37.659 --> 0:00:39.220 to be called out? I don't know. I don't know. 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:40.559 I just, I saw it. I was like, oh, those 0:00:40.580 --> 0:00:41.220 are corduroys. 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:45.559 I ain't never seen corduroy shorts. 0:00:45.620 --> 0:00:47.850 I don't know. I didn't even notice it until you 0:00:47.870 --> 0:00:49.810 said that. I feel like I'm getting clowned, but it 0:00:49.909 --> 0:00:52.250 just hasn't gotten there yet. No, I just never seen it. 0:00:52.310 --> 0:00:54.030 It's just interesting. 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:58.340 That's funny because we sit here in silence for like 0:00:58.340 --> 0:00:59.940 10 minutes in the first thing. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:00.160 Right. 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:01.960 He could have set this shit off. I would have 0:01:01.980 --> 0:01:05.700 looked it up. I never looked it up, man. Oh, shit, man. 0:01:05.780 --> 0:01:07.490 All right, man. 0:01:07.510 --> 0:01:08.690 We're going to go around the room and see what 0:01:08.730 --> 0:01:11.130 we thought about this film. The dog stars. I'll start 0:01:11.150 --> 0:01:12.270 with you, Ken. What'd you think? 0:01:19.090 --> 0:01:19.690 It's like. 0:01:20.990 --> 0:01:23.179 I like parts of this movie and then I hate it. 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:29.350 Parts of the movie as well. And I really like 0:01:29.390 --> 0:01:33.970 more of the post-apocalyptic world, the survival, the fighting. It's 0:01:33.990 --> 0:01:38.050 just all that other shit that was, you know, interwoven 0:01:38.069 --> 0:01:41.710 through here. I just wasn't much of a fan of... 0:01:41.790 --> 0:01:44.070 When it was over, I didn't, like, walk away. I 0:01:44.069 --> 0:01:47.670 was like, that was terrible. But when it started out, 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.000 I was like, oh, my God, this is freaking terrible. 0:01:50.060 --> 0:01:51.160 I need to get out of here right now. 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:52.720 And. 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:57.520 But, yeah, it was a lot of, like, Highs and 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:58.900 lows for me overall. 0:01:58.980 --> 0:02:06.670 But, yeah, I can't say it was awful. Okay. Mike, 0:02:06.710 --> 0:02:09.750 can you say this was awful? No, not at all. Okay. No, 0:02:09.770 --> 0:02:11.369 I liked it. I thought it was good. Okay. 0:02:11.710 --> 0:02:14.090 It's not a movie that I would typically go to 0:02:14.110 --> 0:02:18.310 a movie theater and watch, but it was good. I 0:02:18.350 --> 0:02:20.590 wouldn't go see it again. It definitely should have been 0:02:21.010 --> 0:02:22.400 straight to Netflix or something. 0:02:22.410 --> 0:02:25.980 Right. But, yeah, it was cool. Roy, what did you say? 0:02:27.169 --> 0:02:29.630 It did seem like a Netflix movie. But no, I 0:02:29.630 --> 0:02:33.840 enjoyed it though. Netflix movie or whatever. It was a 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.920 solid movie to me. I had no expectations. I had 0:02:36.980 --> 0:02:38.519 no desire to see this. I probably would have never 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:42.760 saw it if we wasn't reviewing it. But yeah, I'm 0:02:42.780 --> 0:02:45.580 glad I saw it. It was a solid story. I 0:02:45.780 --> 0:02:48.240 like the approach they took with this because I wasn't 0:02:48.300 --> 0:02:51.810 expecting it to go necessarily like this. And I don't 0:02:51.830 --> 0:02:54.630 know if we ever seen anything like this per se. 0:02:55.090 --> 0:02:57.630 At least I can't remember us seeing anything like this. 0:02:59.350 --> 0:02:59.970 I agree with you. 0:02:59.990 --> 0:03:03.330 I don't think that we've seen... I like the world 0:03:03.590 --> 0:03:05.810 that they built up. I did like that. And I 0:03:05.870 --> 0:03:10.339 wish that we had gotten more from the world. But 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.940 I think I'm in agreeance with you guys. I didn't 0:03:13.060 --> 0:03:18.420 hate the movie. I walked away like, man, that was terrible. However, 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:20.480 it did leave a lot to be desired for me 0:03:20.660 --> 0:03:22.850 in the sense I don't think they've flushed out the 0:03:22.870 --> 0:03:25.250 characters enough for me to care about any of them. 0:03:26.389 --> 0:03:30.660 I just didn't buy into any of the relationships. And 0:03:30.820 --> 0:03:35.800 it wasn't a lot of payoff for me. The big payoffs, 0:03:35.860 --> 0:03:39.370 I feel like they could have been more. I would 0:03:39.670 --> 0:03:42.350 have liked to know more about what happened, but we'll 0:03:42.370 --> 0:03:43.690 get into that when we get to the points. 0:03:43.950 --> 0:03:46.830 No, that was my main point. Because I want to 0:03:46.850 --> 0:03:49.090 know what happened. Like, what virus is it that knocked 0:03:49.180 --> 0:03:50.160 out all of the black people? 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:55.100 Yeah. Why, one, were there no black people anywhere? None. 0:03:55.140 --> 0:03:56.020 They weren't even the bad guys. 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.220 No. They were just dead. Nowhere. It was just no 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.860 black people. They must have put it in chicken. Or watermelon. 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:03.340 Or grape soda. Or grape soda. 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:07.030 It was a grape soda virus that took everybody out. 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.730 That's funny. But, yeah, I wanted to know what, like, even.... 0:04:11.730 --> 0:04:13.460 I couldn't even tell if the people were infected or not. 0:04:13.590 --> 0:04:16.760 But they raided the farms when we got there. 0:04:16.779 --> 0:04:18.760 I didn't know. No, they weren't infected. They were? They 0:04:18.779 --> 0:04:20.820 were just crazy. They were not. That's what I thought. 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.160 They were just survivors. I think if you get infected, 0:04:23.180 --> 0:04:24.300 you just die. Okay. 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:25.960 Like the black people. 0:04:26.540 --> 0:04:27.100 Interesting. 0:04:27.220 --> 0:04:29.170 So we'll get into all of those things. But we 0:04:29.190 --> 0:04:32.270 start out. This story, in my opinion, takes a while 0:04:32.330 --> 0:04:35.850 to get going. So in that while to get going, 0:04:35.870 --> 0:04:38.650 we learn about Bangley. And we learn about Higgs. 0:04:38.730 --> 0:04:42.680 Higgs is Jacob. What's his last name? Lordy. Lordy. That's 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:48.260 his character. And then Bangley is the other, roughly. Josh Brolin. 0:04:48.300 --> 0:04:49.600 Josh Brolin. Yeah. 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:52.820 So they kind of set up this world with Higgs 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:54.299 going around picking up supplies. 0:04:54.339 --> 0:04:55.020 He's doing his thing. 0:04:55.060 --> 0:04:58.500 And then Bangley is there at the ranch, not wanting 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.190 him to leave as much. And they have these two 0:05:00.230 --> 0:05:03.989 kind of sides of how you handle this apocalypse world. 0:05:04.130 --> 0:05:07.430 Did you guys find yourself siding with either one of 0:05:08.290 --> 0:05:09.150 Bangley or Higgs? 0:05:10.990 --> 0:05:14.430 Well, I kind of disagree with you with the, like, well, 0:05:14.450 --> 0:05:16.589 not disagree with you, but I have a different opinion 0:05:16.630 --> 0:05:21.040 from you for it. Like, the character building. Because I 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:26.760 did like the dog. Like, I was a main star. Yeah, 0:05:27.060 --> 0:05:33.110 I got invested in the dog early on. And the 0:05:33.190 --> 0:05:36.390 other characters, too. So, yeah, I did feel something for them. 0:05:37.130 --> 0:05:39.450 But I did like the world building. And you asked 0:05:39.490 --> 0:05:42.220 if I liked. I didn't like one over the other. 0:05:42.420 --> 0:05:44.700 It just seemed like a, you know, they were partners 0:05:44.740 --> 0:05:46.700 in this whole apocalyptic world. 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:48.960 So it just seemed like they had a good, good, uh, 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:53.500 good partnership going. I'm team Bangley. 0:05:54.130 --> 0:05:56.450 I could see you being team Bangley. Ken, why, why'd 0:05:56.470 --> 0:05:57.570 you side with him more so. 0:05:57.490 --> 0:05:57.910 Than he is? 0:05:58.529 --> 0:06:02.150 Well, he turned out to be right for the most part, 0:06:02.490 --> 0:06:09.790 at least 80% right. Um, and, uh, uh, It's the 0:06:09.870 --> 0:06:11.990 world out there is crazy. We don't know what's going on, 0:06:12.010 --> 0:06:15.409 but we're, we're somewhat safe and secure here, even though 0:06:15.450 --> 0:06:18.250 the threats are building. And he learned that on his 0:06:18.350 --> 0:06:23.650 expedition out to get supplies and stuff that, you know, 0:06:23.810 --> 0:06:26.070 there are other forces that are coming out here. And 0:06:26.390 --> 0:06:29.640 I guess eventually I think me, if he was there, 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.820 he probably, well, we'll get to all that, but yeah, 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.000 I think he was right. Like, but he's also a 0:06:34.300 --> 0:06:36.380 war veteran. So he looks at the world from a 0:06:36.779 --> 0:06:38.940 different perspective, but I think he was absolutely right. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.560 We don't know what's out there. It's dangerous out there. 0:06:42.580 --> 0:06:44.860 There's a reason why you're walking around with a gun 0:06:44.940 --> 0:06:47.620 everywhere you go to just get supplies. You're not going 0:06:47.670 --> 0:06:50.650 out there without a weapon. You're going out there because 0:06:50.710 --> 0:06:53.930 it's dangerous. And you're safe here in a place that 0:06:53.990 --> 0:06:56.430 we have a perimeter set up and we have a 0:06:56.610 --> 0:07:01.809 protocol in place to protect this place and secure this place. 0:07:02.110 --> 0:07:05.650 So, yeah, I was definitely team Beckley. That ain't living, Ken. 0:07:05.670 --> 0:07:08.230 That ain't living, man. Go out there, you won't be 0:07:08.250 --> 0:07:08.930 living long. 0:07:08.970 --> 0:07:10.989 That's what he said. That's what he told him, too. 0:07:11.470 --> 0:07:13.450 That's what he told him, too. But I think both 0:07:13.530 --> 0:07:15.630 of them are necessary, though. I think both are needed, 0:07:16.110 --> 0:07:20.010 in my opinion. Especially if you, like he said later 0:07:20.070 --> 0:07:23.750 on in the movie, it's like, you know, you're not different. 0:07:23.770 --> 0:07:25.510 I had a wife. I had a dog. 0:07:25.530 --> 0:07:27.550 You know what I'm saying? I loved this and that. 0:07:27.790 --> 0:07:31.130 We just had two different lifestyles. So, like he said, 0:07:31.170 --> 0:07:32.610 he's built for. 0:07:32.510 --> 0:07:35.290 That type of environment or that type of world. He 0:07:35.310 --> 0:07:38.790 just isn't. He wanted more. Mike, what did you think 0:07:38.810 --> 0:07:42.020 about the yin and the yang of Bangley and Higgs? 0:07:42.380 --> 0:07:43.220 I'm with Rod. 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:44.960 I think both of them were necessary. 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.960 I get Bangley's point, but Higgs, I. 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:50.260 Don't want to live here with you. Right. 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.490 I'm trying to get some cutting. 0:07:52.770 --> 0:07:53.190 Right. 0:07:53.510 --> 0:07:55.670 And you don't want to go where the Mennonites are. 0:07:55.690 --> 0:07:58.570 Mormons. They were Mennonites. I know. 0:07:58.610 --> 0:08:01.450 I was doing the reverse joke they were doing in 0:08:01.470 --> 0:08:02.510 the movie. 0:08:02.850 --> 0:08:05.520 And then he fell right into it. No. For a 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.980 hot second, I was like, wait a minute. I remember 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.300 the joke, but I was like, did I get it backwards? 0:08:11.620 --> 0:08:14.960 He fell right into it. Because I'm Team Bangla. Right. 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.930 So Bangla called him Mormons. That's funny. 0:08:20.430 --> 0:08:23.530 To that, did y'all like Jacob in this role? Did 0:08:23.550 --> 0:08:26.210 y'all like him playing this character? I mean, he was comfortable. 0:08:26.490 --> 0:08:29.590 Yes. He was super comfortable, man. He's really good. He 0:08:29.630 --> 0:08:33.120 clearly didn't want to do Euphoria. I mean, he's totally 0:08:33.140 --> 0:08:34.900 trying to erase that era of his life. 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.380 Like, you could tell he wants to be that good 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.660 guy type, you know, character. 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:44.620 So he's changing his old image. I think I seen 0:08:44.660 --> 0:08:46.970 maybe too much euphoria. That's all I kept seeing. 0:08:46.990 --> 0:08:47.120 Wow. 0:08:47.170 --> 0:08:49.589 It was hard for me to buy into his character, man. 0:08:49.650 --> 0:08:50.730 I think so, too. I think he's a racist. 0:08:50.750 --> 0:08:52.270 I kept calling him Nate Jacobs in my head, but 0:08:52.290 --> 0:08:53.050 at the same time. 0:08:53.530 --> 0:08:55.490 Really? No, I'm with Rod. 0:08:55.530 --> 0:08:57.910 He's trying to walk away from that and be like, 0:08:57.970 --> 0:08:59.010 that's not me. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:08:59.429 Interesting. 0:08:59.460 --> 0:09:01.500 He don't want to have the Joffrey treatment. 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:06.750 True. Yeah. Yeah, he was excellent in this movie. He was. 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.260 ken you said he was totally erasing that euphoria character. 0:09:09.260 --> 0:09:12.740 No well i'm just saying he clearly watched euphoria and 0:09:12.820 --> 0:09:15.590 watching this and seeing other stuff he was in he 0:09:15.730 --> 0:09:19.610 clearly um didn't want to do that he was mailing 0:09:19.630 --> 0:09:21.989 it in we saw the reports and the stories that 0:09:22.070 --> 0:09:25.720 he was you know focused on recording other stuff so 0:09:25.860 --> 0:09:28.300 he i think they said uh he did his parts 0:09:29.020 --> 0:09:31.699 without everybody else something like that uh i forgot how 0:09:31.980 --> 0:09:35.630 the story fully went but There was always that conversation 0:09:35.650 --> 0:09:38.510 about his character in Euphoria. And we finally got a 0:09:38.970 --> 0:09:42.370 report about why and why he was acting like that 0:09:42.410 --> 0:09:45.350 and doing that. But then you see this, and you're like, oh, yeah, 0:09:45.410 --> 0:09:49.990 he really didn't care all that much about that shit. So, yeah, 0:09:50.030 --> 0:09:54.040 we covered him in Frankenstein. And, you know, I may 0:09:54.059 --> 0:09:55.930 be the only one that saw Weather in Heights, but 0:09:55.970 --> 0:09:57.220 I saw him in Weather in Heights, and then I'm 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.819 seeing him in this. So he's definitely, definitely trying to 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:01.480 get away from that. 0:10:01.900 --> 0:10:04.360 Have you watched it? Man, hell no. I'm a thug, man. 0:10:04.420 --> 0:10:08.300 I thought you may have got tricked into watching it. No. No, 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.800 my girls don't watch stuff like that. Okay. All right. 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.699 So with the back and forth from Higgs and Bangley, 0:10:13.740 --> 0:10:16.230 you get that kind of different ideologies that they have 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.150 about the post-apocalyptic world. 0:10:17.970 --> 0:10:18.709 That they're living in. 0:10:19.450 --> 0:10:22.990 And then that sets up Bangley to kind of set 0:10:23.010 --> 0:10:25.770 a trap for Higgs, per se. He knew he was 0:10:25.809 --> 0:10:29.110 going too early on the post-op thing. Well, he knew 0:10:29.150 --> 0:10:32.110 he was going too early to see what they were 0:10:32.130 --> 0:10:34.270 supposed to before it got too dark. So he kind 0:10:34.309 --> 0:10:36.790 of left him out there to himself to get shot 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.080 in this. His dog gets shot, killed. 0:10:39.380 --> 0:10:44.780 Stabbed. Stabbed. You skipped over a pretty big part. Go ahead. 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:45.540 I'll be quick. 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.360 It's where he runs into that bump. 0:10:48.420 --> 0:10:49.300 When he was out. Yeah. 0:10:49.340 --> 0:10:49.440 Yeah. 0:10:49.460 --> 0:10:51.479 And then we get... He told them the stuff was coming. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:52.020 Huh? 0:10:52.340 --> 0:10:53.600 And he told him that the people were coming. We 0:10:53.620 --> 0:10:54.140 get the whole. 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.540 Exposition of what, this was the corniest part of the 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.959 whole movie. When Kim was talking about those parts I love, 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.079 parts I hated, this is the only part I hated. 0:11:01.100 --> 0:11:05.150 Because I was like, dude, seriously? Like, make this make sense. 0:11:05.250 --> 0:11:07.790 You ran into a bum that shot you or tried 0:11:07.809 --> 0:11:09.209 to shoot you with an arrow or some shit. 0:11:09.809 --> 0:11:10.590 You shot him. 0:11:10.650 --> 0:11:12.429 And then he's just like, did you know that there 0:11:12.470 --> 0:11:14.150 was a virus that wiped out a bunch of people? 0:11:14.370 --> 0:11:16.510 And by the way, there's a whole bunch of Reavers coming. 0:11:16.530 --> 0:11:17.710 So be prepared for that. 0:11:17.950 --> 0:11:20.000 You don't need me. What is this? 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:24.360 Y'all could have just had an opening crawl and just 0:11:24.420 --> 0:11:25.620 put the fucking text on there. 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.000 That would have made way more sense than this bum 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:28.720 telling this story. 0:11:29.460 --> 0:11:32.209 And I think it also was showing that he left 0:11:32.250 --> 0:11:34.490 them alive, so it gave them a reason for Bangley 0:11:34.590 --> 0:11:38.340 and them to have that discussion. to further show what 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:39.820 type of person he is. He was like, oh, you 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:41.400 left him alive. That's what you do. He's gonna come 0:11:41.420 --> 0:11:43.200 back to kill you, blah, blah, blah, blah. 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:43.859 So yeah. 0:11:44.020 --> 0:11:46.579 It could have been more impactful if he shot the 0:11:46.620 --> 0:11:47.980 bum in the leg and the bum was like, look, 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:48.839 I got a family, bro. 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.040 Please don't kill me. And then he walked away. 0:11:51.740 --> 0:11:53.679 Two second scene, and we would have got the same 0:11:53.860 --> 0:11:56.300 emotional impact from him and Bang Lee's conversation. 0:11:56.740 --> 0:12:02.030 That exposition shit was weird as hell. You do got bullets. 0:12:02.070 --> 0:12:04.449 He wasted a whole bunch of them. 0:12:04.570 --> 0:12:06.929 He thought he didn't have none. He's like, you put 0:12:06.950 --> 0:12:11.170 the gun down. You ain't got no bullets. But they 0:12:11.190 --> 0:12:12.410 go through the thing with the bomb. 0:12:12.670 --> 0:12:13.190 They go back. 0:12:13.750 --> 0:12:15.490 They kind of set the loop. It wasn't a trap, 0:12:15.550 --> 0:12:17.610 but he kind of lit. He left him out there 0:12:17.650 --> 0:12:20.109 by himself a little longer than he should have, which 0:12:20.270 --> 0:12:22.370 rubbed him the wrong way, plus his dog got stabbed, 0:12:23.270 --> 0:12:25.490 which leads to Higgs leaving. 0:12:26.010 --> 0:12:28.050 He wasn't even at his post, but keep going. 0:12:28.710 --> 0:12:30.780 Well, he did that on purpose, though. Yeah, I know, 0:12:31.100 --> 0:12:35.300 I know. Was this justifiable? Could y'all see this being 0:12:35.340 --> 0:12:38.319 the last straw and him leaving? Well, there's nothing left. 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.720 The dog was gone at this point. I was surprised 0:12:40.740 --> 0:12:42.179 they killed the dog. I didn't know the dog was 0:12:42.220 --> 0:12:42.620 going to die. 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.250 I think I got this movie confused with the other 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:47.830 movie about the man and the dog. 0:12:47.890 --> 0:12:50.330 Yeah, yeah. I can't remember what it's called. 0:12:50.350 --> 0:12:53.410 Yeah, so I was like, I thought he was going 0:12:53.429 --> 0:12:56.250 to have to get in the plane, fly somewhere, and 0:12:56.290 --> 0:12:57.200 try to save the dog. 0:12:57.220 --> 0:12:58.900 That's what I thought the movie was going to turn into. 0:12:59.540 --> 0:13:00.079 But it did not. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.440 He put that motherfucker in the ground, which was fine 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:03.739 by me because that dog was starting to get on 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:04.280 my nerves. 0:13:04.300 --> 0:13:04.760 You crazy. 0:13:05.610 --> 0:13:06.770 You just saying shit now. 0:13:07.270 --> 0:13:09.069 That was the best dog I ever seen in my life. 0:13:09.090 --> 0:13:10.130 That was the goodest boy. 0:13:10.290 --> 0:13:12.449 Maybe it wasn't the dog, but I definitely got tired 0:13:12.490 --> 0:13:14.030 of him always talking to the dog. 0:13:14.429 --> 0:13:17.710 That was his best friend? Yeah. Bro, every single time. 0:13:17.790 --> 0:13:20.570 Get in the car. Good boy. Come on. Bro, I like. 0:13:21.270 --> 0:13:23.719 They were establishing how much he meant to. No, it was. 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:24.160 It was. 0:13:24.460 --> 0:13:27.500 It felt like it was mostly for the movie to 0:13:27.540 --> 0:13:30.780 have dialogue in it. But I know people talk to 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.600 their dogs, but not every goddamn second. 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:34.540 Mike, no. 0:13:35.150 --> 0:13:37.810 Yeah, I was just about to say, that's the most 0:13:37.929 --> 0:13:38.770 wrong you could ever be. 0:13:39.110 --> 0:13:41.360 It is, it is. I used to have three dogs 0:13:41.390 --> 0:13:44.140 at one time. You probably don't. You don't even talk 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.620 to your kids. He don't even talk to his kids. 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.059 I'm not saying that. He said it before. He's like, 0:13:50.100 --> 0:13:52.480 they'll just be rusting all around me. I don't even 0:13:52.500 --> 0:13:55.900 pay no attention. That's what he said. I'm just saying. 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.720 Ken with a dog. That's why all that dog gets. 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:02.690 I talk to Zoe all day long. My girl will 0:14:02.710 --> 0:14:03.670 tell you from the other room, what. 0:14:03.550 --> 0:14:06.670 Did you say? I'm not talking to you. Zoe's right here. 0:14:06.690 --> 0:14:07.790 Why do you think I'm talking to you? 0:14:07.809 --> 0:14:10.370 And she talks to her cat all the time. And 0:14:10.690 --> 0:14:12.489 when she had a dog, we both talked to the 0:14:12.510 --> 0:14:15.830 damn dog. They understand after a while. 0:14:16.030 --> 0:14:17.530 I do know, but. You saw him jump up in that. 0:14:17.570 --> 0:14:19.410 He said, get in the plane. What did that dog do? 0:14:19.500 --> 0:14:21.380 He didn't have to tell the dog that. It was 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.440 going to get in the plane anyway. No, he was 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.979 playing with them kids. And he said, come on, Jasper, 0:14:26.180 --> 0:14:27.600 get in the plane. I did like that scene. I 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.420 was like, man, he was having so much fun with that. Yeah, 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.520 he was. Oh, man, I did like that. 0:14:31.620 --> 0:14:33.900 But, I mean, that part he had to call him, 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.180 you know, so I get that because that dog wasn't 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:36.940 going to leave. 0:14:37.500 --> 0:14:39.239 But the other parts when he's about to get in 0:14:39.260 --> 0:14:41.640 the plane, he was like, get in the plane. Good boy. 0:14:41.730 --> 0:14:43.040 It's just like, bro, he's going to get in the 0:14:43.070 --> 0:14:45.870 plane anyway. Why do you have to tell him to 0:14:45.890 --> 0:14:46.950 get in the plane? You don't even have to tell 0:14:46.970 --> 0:14:48.650 him to do that. He's going to do it. 0:14:48.710 --> 0:14:49.490 Oh, no, man. 0:14:49.950 --> 0:14:52.090 Especially with all them other dogs that were running around. 0:14:52.150 --> 0:14:55.430 He might have got sidetracked and ran off after another dog. 0:14:55.450 --> 0:14:57.150 Yeah, those other dogs. I was confused by that, too. 0:14:57.170 --> 0:14:58.170 I was like, this is going to be a whole 0:14:58.210 --> 0:15:01.070 movie of dogs. Yeah, it was. I saw these dogs 0:15:01.110 --> 0:15:01.530 around here. 0:15:01.550 --> 0:15:04.290 Because there were a lot, lot, lot of the other dogs. 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:05.690 And they didn't really say anything about it. 0:15:05.750 --> 0:15:06.820 So I thought that was kind of weird. 0:15:07.100 --> 0:15:07.300 Yeah. 0:15:08.250 --> 0:15:11.050 So what'd y'all think about him leaving, though? Yeah, I 0:15:11.070 --> 0:15:12.880 wouldn't have just left. I'm sorry. 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:15.080 Josh Brolin would have had to die. 0:15:15.620 --> 0:15:16.250 Oh, you would have killed him. 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.520 Abso-fucking-lutely. He did some bullshit. Now, granted, it was partly 0:15:19.580 --> 0:15:21.960 my fault, but no, no. 0:15:22.140 --> 0:15:22.480 There was. 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.410 I didn't like this. There wasn't enough. He hit him 0:15:26.530 --> 0:15:29.970 one time, and that was it. No, no, you got 0:15:29.990 --> 0:15:30.830 to break his jaw. 0:15:31.310 --> 0:15:32.450 He didn't feel like he did. 0:15:32.490 --> 0:15:33.250 Like, who the fuck are you? 0:15:33.270 --> 0:15:34.490 You're not my fucking father. 0:15:34.510 --> 0:15:34.590 Yeah. 0:15:35.470 --> 0:15:38.250 You're not my father. You're not my dad. Like, why 0:15:38.290 --> 0:15:40.750 are you over here trying to teach me lessons? And 0:15:40.770 --> 0:15:42.290 then you taught me a lesson that could have got 0:15:42.330 --> 0:15:43.790 me and my dog killed? 0:15:44.290 --> 0:15:45.310 Nah, man. 0:15:47.150 --> 0:15:49.640 I literally in the theater, I said, God damn it. 0:15:50.460 --> 0:15:52.420 This pissed me off so bad. 0:15:53.660 --> 0:15:58.460 What about this boy, Ron? He leaves after the dog. 0:15:59.460 --> 0:16:02.940 He wasn't even remorseful. Bangley really wasn't remorseful at all. 0:16:03.330 --> 0:16:05.390 He wasn't at first, but then he came back around. 0:16:05.550 --> 0:16:07.310 I did like that he, I did like that he can't. 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:08.930 That he can't. He felt bad, he just didn't want 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:10.600 to show it. Yeah, a little bit at the end 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:11.520 when he was pulling off. 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:15.240 Nah, yeah, he showed it at the end. Um, yeah, 0:16:15.260 --> 0:16:16.680 it was, it just took it too far with the 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.600 lesson or whatnot. You know, like I said, the dog 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.840 ended up dead in this situation, especially if he could 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:25.670 have saved him. Um, before we got to this part, though, 0:16:25.690 --> 0:16:27.250 with the, with the. 0:16:27.490 --> 0:16:32.390 Uh, what are they called? What are they called? Mennonites. Mennonites. Um, 0:16:33.130 --> 0:16:34.650 What was... Did they say what was going on with 0:16:34.690 --> 0:16:38.380 the kids at that point? Because I don't remember them mentioning... 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.040 I didn't think they said they were sick either. I 0:16:40.060 --> 0:16:43.060 know later. That's what I'm saying. I don't think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.640 I was wondering, like... A guy who was in there, 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.300 he said something about them being sick. Did he? Yeah, 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:49.530 he mentioned them being sick. Yeah, I thought he did. 0:16:49.540 --> 0:16:50.950 Because he had just lost his wife or something like that. 0:16:50.970 --> 0:16:51.490 A guy from Marvel. 0:16:51.530 --> 0:16:52.310 I can't remember his name. 0:16:52.370 --> 0:16:55.470 Yeah. I can't believe he has a small world in this. 0:16:55.730 --> 0:16:58.930 He didn't do shit. He... I mean, that's all he wanted. 0:16:59.070 --> 0:17:01.080 He was like, hey, man, I'm tired of being... He 0:17:01.140 --> 0:17:06.460 is Wong, right? I looked it up. Okay, thank you. Yeah, 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:07.080 I did. 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.700 It was interesting to see that it was that village 0:17:10.740 --> 0:17:15.310 of people that they were familiar with before he got 0:17:15.350 --> 0:17:19.669 back to the base or whatever. But no, I like 0:17:19.710 --> 0:17:22.710 this moment, though, when he left. That's when he described 0:17:22.730 --> 0:17:25.330 how we're different people or whatnot. 0:17:25.350 --> 0:17:26.290