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Speaker 1: Don Fisher is in fact on the Java House Peel

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Speaker 1: Don Fisher joining us now and listen a busy weekend. Don.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you the choice because we had

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Speaker 1: the introduction to seeing the basketball team against Baylor yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and then obviously Indiana's just continued impressive play on the

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Speaker 1: football field on Saturday against UCLA. So I will give

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Speaker 1: you the choice basketball football which one we want to

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Speaker 2: Well, because I better get football ont of the way first,

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Speaker 2: since it was two days ago, and I could forget

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Speaker 2: a lot of things. But all that said, the football

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Speaker 2: team was really impressive on Saturday, taking not a team

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Speaker 2: that had gotten new coaching staff, a new player, not

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Speaker 2: new players, but new systems and new formations and all

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Speaker 2: those kinds of things. And a lot of folks thought

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Speaker 2: Fit in Indiana was going to have some problems with UCLA.

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Speaker 2: It didn't go out and come out that way simply

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Speaker 2: by Aidan Fisher running in for a touchdown of twenty

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Speaker 2: five yards and I'm telling you, you could just almost

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Speaker 2: after that play. And I'm not saying that they didn't

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Speaker 2: play hard the rest of the first half or whatever,

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Speaker 2: but the game got out of hand fairly quickly, and

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Speaker 2: Indiana just dominated the Bruins in that contest. And it

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Speaker 2: wasn't even Indiana's best performance of the year. It was

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Speaker 2: really just kind of a what you would call an

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Speaker 2: because Indiana just had control of the game the entire

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting, don because and whoever would have guessed

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Speaker 1: we're seeing almost what you saw on Saturday, in the

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Speaker 1: And Indiana I thought we saw that on Saturday. I'll

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Speaker 1: be honest, I was thinking about this today on my

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Speaker 1: I don't know where it would be. I just don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe at times kind of going through the motions,

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Speaker 1: other team exposes. Is that fair?

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Speaker 2: Well, it is at this point, Jake, because as we know,

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Speaker 2: how that's going to play out. And Aiden Fisher got

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Speaker 2: hurt in that ballgame in the first half. He did

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Speaker 2: He has got all that experience under Churt Signetti. He

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Speaker 2: communication with his teammates, and again the linebacking corp is

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Speaker 2: every term you could use from an adjective standpoint. This

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Speaker 2: Now that's saying something, because the Buckeyes are really good

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Speaker 1: Don It's so interesting to me By the way, Kurtz

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Speaker 1: So the difference is not near as far. The gap

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Speaker 1: Don in your opinion, when you look at the precision

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Speaker 2: It's literally the perfect marriage of both, because Fernando just

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Speaker 3: Don to kind of put a bow on football. Two

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Speaker 3: questions here. Number one, how many times did you practice

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Speaker 3: saying Nico's last name leading up to Saturday's game? And

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Speaker 3: then number two, I believe last week on the show,

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Speaker 3: Jake asked you about Fernando Mendoza and you said you

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Speaker 2: First thing, and you know is I did practice Nico's

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Speaker 2: a perfect performance by Anny stretching imagination yamli Ava's how

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Speaker 2: you say it? But I screwed that up two or

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Speaker 2: John Harry, he got it wrong every time he said it,

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Speaker 2: So I know it wasn't It wasn't easy. But that

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry I said last week on the show you

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Speaker 3: Nano Mendozi and you got to write that ship on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Is there anything else you need us to ask you

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Speaker 2: Well, anything you say is probably going to work out

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Speaker 2: nothing seems to be going wrong for Indiana right now.

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Speaker 1: Don Can you just simply mention that you'd like to

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Speaker 2: Tell you this what the Pacers did to that opening

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Speaker 1: Hall didn't get her out t events, they win that game.

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing that does jump out of me is

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Speaker 2: everybody was brand new, including the staff with their into

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Speaker 2: Breese is the new head coach. But what I saw

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Speaker 2: They are really good defensively in that sense, and they

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Speaker 2: I don't know how talented because they're going to come

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Speaker 4: All right, thanks for having me, Jake, I appreciate.

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Speaker 1: What player Mike Chapel is our guest on the Java

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Speaker 5: they've got a good feel for what's working, and at

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Speaker 5: some point they're going to go back to Taylor and

435
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Speaker 5: the great backs. Whether it's Taylor, I just remember Barry

436
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 5: Sanders all the time where you hold him and you

437
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 5: hold him and holding, then he goes for sixty on

438
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Speaker 5: you and you thought you did a pretty good job

439
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 5: until you know it's like, well we held him for

440
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Speaker 5: fifty yards on twelve carries. What about the end of

441
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Speaker 5: three carries? So that's what Taylor's giving him. He's only

442
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 5: average on like eighteen carries a game, which is really

443
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Speaker 5: a low number. It's normal. I thought he'd be like

444
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 5: at twenty one twenty two, but they haven't needed to.

445
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 5: And we're gonna see the schedule gets tougher. We've said

446
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,239
Speaker 5: this all loong and the schedule gets tougher. Now. I

447
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 5: thought Berlin would be a really toughest game with Atlanta,

448
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 5: but I can't figure Atlanta out.

449
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Atlanta to me, chap and obviously they got Pittsburgh

450
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: between now and then, right. We saw the Steelers last night,

451
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: and the Steelers are very susceptible. But Atlanta to me,

452
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Speaker 1: and I bring that up because you're right, I mean,

453
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Speaker 1: going over to Germany and playing Atlanta, the Falcons are

454
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Speaker 1: intriguing because I think defensively they're pretty sound.

455
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Speaker 4: Now.

456
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like I'm sitting here watching quarter

457
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Speaker 1: by quarter of Falcon football. But if there's an area

458
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Speaker 1: for Atlanta that can present a little bit of an

459
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Speaker 1: eyebrow raise, it would be their defense from what I've seen.

460
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Speaker 1: But maybe I'm wrong there, right.

461
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Speaker 5: Right, Well, and then again you get I'm not that

462
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 5: sold on Pittsburgh. Got I'm just not. Uh, but but

463
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 5: these guys haven't won in Pittsburgh since Peyton and Dominant Croodes.

464
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 5: I think it was in whatever seven or eight or

465
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 5: whatever it was. But then then after the bye you

466
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 5: go to Kansas City. That's gonna tell you a time,

467
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 5: and then you're home with I think it's home with

468
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 5: h with Houston, so it gets tougher. You got Seattle,

469
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 5: you got you got the Niners, who I'm not sure

470
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 5: how good they are. So that's why this was so

471
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Speaker 5: critical to get out. I thought they'd go six and two.

472
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna put banging my horn on that. But

473
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 5: seven and one. Uh, that's just that's really sets you up.

474
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 5: They've almost got the over in Vegas. I think it

475
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 5: was eight and a half. Uh So it's really kind

476
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 5: of fun to see. And then the expectations will grow,

477
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 5: which is a good thing. The past three or four

478
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 5: years whatever, where they've just not gotten things down in

479
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 5: the fan base is p O. That's a good thing.

480
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 5: Your fan base should demand more and demand playoffs and

481
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 5: all this stuff, and when you don't get there, they

482
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 5: should be mad at you.

483
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: I think the fan base should be upset. Yesterday the

484
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 1: roof was closed.

485
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 5: Your thoughts, Yeah, but it's the fan base and there

486
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 5: it was one of It was one of those borderline

487
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 5: games where it was a little chili in the chilli.

488
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: A little chili it was. It was Hey, the press

489
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Speaker 1: stot press bott you know that Java House edit. You

490
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: know they got hot Coco on the Java House peeling

491
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Speaker 1: forse right, you can get that twenty five percent off JAP.

492
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: When you look at Daniel Jones and I was thinking

493
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Speaker 1: about this yesterday and maybe the way I word this

494
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Speaker 1: is going to come off convoluted. When when Shane Steiken

495
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Speaker 1: and the way that this symbiotic relationship he's got going

496
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Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones, and I keep going back to it

497
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: and wondering this, do you believe that Daniel Jones And

498
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: it's a moot point now because he's playing at a

499
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Speaker 1: high level, But but if you go back now and

500
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: you try to put the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle

501
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: together retroactively and see how it all makes sense. Do

502
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Speaker 1: you think that Shane Steiken selected Daniel Jones as his

503
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: starter because he felt that eventually that was going to

504
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: lead to the to the trust from most teammates, from

505
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 1: a higher number of teammates, or simply because it's who

506
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: Shane Steyke and trusted.

507
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 5: It's who Shane Styke and trusted. And then because I

508
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 5: really believe if you'd taken a poll in training camp

509
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 5: or whatever, this team was still very much behind Richardson.

510
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 5: I really believe that the fan base was I can

511
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 5: remember like the first practice where Jones takes the first

512
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 5: snaps and then they bring Jones or they bring Richardson

513
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 5: in for the the next series, and the fans go

514
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 5: crazy and you're thinking, oh, really so this this is

515
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 5: a perfect match too obsessive people at their positions, at

516
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 5: their jobs, which is what you want. I mean, Peyton

517
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 5: Manning was totally totally obsessed with the job and with

518
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 5: Tom and Tom Moore and Howard and all those guys

519
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 5: are that that's what it takes. And I would like

520
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 5: to know to give Shane Stikeen some truth for him

521
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 5: and find out when he knew that Daniel Jones was

522
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Speaker 5: the guy. And I'm not buying in the least it

523
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Speaker 5: was it was late August. I don't believe that at all.

524
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 5: I think it was much much earlier to where he

525
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 5: saw what Jones had in him. And I think he

526
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 5: really believed that that Jones was done dirty by the

527
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 5: Giants organization with how they didn't do things around him

528
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 5: the right way. I would love to know when Styken decided, boy,

529
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 5: this guy, we can do things. Go back and look

530
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 5: at go back and look at what Stiken did with

531
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Speaker 5: Gardner Minshew. They came within like one pass of winning

532
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 5: the ANFC South uh and and has has Minshew done

533
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 5: anything since then?

534
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 4: No?

535
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 5: So I think that he got the absolute most out

536
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 5: of Minshew and got him like fifteen million dollars from

537
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 5: the Raiders, which good, good for Minshew. But I just

538
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 5: think that this was a perfect match and some at

539
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 5: some point early in the process, whatever it was, April Major, whatever,

540
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 5: I think Shane really knew that that Jones was the

541
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Speaker 5: guy now playing at this level. I don't know. Again,

542
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 5: I don't think he's playing off the charts, he's but

543
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 5: he's playing darn good. You know, the the the seven

544
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 5: hundred yard ratings and the first eight games and all

545
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 5: that stuff. I think was he got three interceptions. I

546
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 5: think that that that speaks volumes to.

547
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Speaker 1: How yeah, I mean right, take care of the football, right,

548
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's that is such a huge part of it,

549
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Speaker 1: jap Right.

550
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Speaker 5: And at the end of the season, if you look

551
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 5: at if you look at the takeaway giveaway, the top

552
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 5: five teams are almost always playoffs maybe division winners, and

553
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 5: the bottom five teams are awful. So it is the

554
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 5: one the most significant you know, stat in wins and

555
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 5: losses as far as getting to the bottom line. But

556
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 5: six games, I think the most they've had here maybe

557
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 5: in the in the air, is like seven in a

558
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 5: season because things, because things happen. You get tipped balls,

559
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 5: you get fumbles, you get you get a guy dropping

560
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 5: the ball at at the goal line. So it's pretty impressive.

561
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Speaker 1: Mike Chapels, my guest from CBS fourte on Fox fifty nine.

562
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Speaker 1: He is the dean of writers when it comes to

563
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: covering the Colts. He's on the Java House peeling poor guest, line,

564
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: chap When when you assess the Colts right now, and

565
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: we've all talked about it, if they're going to get

566
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: over the hump, if they're going to push in, one

567
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: would assume that that means they're going to make a

568
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: trade before the deadline for defensive help, whether that be

569
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Speaker 1: pass rush or defensive backfield six and what have does

570
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: in the other perhaps question I have for you is

571
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: this fine, and I think we've all accepted the fact

572
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: that Chris Ballard is we would assume going to make

573
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: some sort of a move. What assets do they have

574
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: to give up? What goes on its way out to

575
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: get the Colts help back in.

576
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 5: Just draft picks? I don't I don't see them having

577
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 5: give a player. Uh, you normally see.

578
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: He loves and couvets. He loves draft capital, though we

579
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: have part with it.

580
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I understand it. I understand it. But when you're

581
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 5: sitting here at seven and one and things I've really got,

582
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 5: I don't believe in my heart that Chris Dowd thought

583
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 5: they'd be seven and one right now. He thought they'd

584
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 5: be good. He really did, But I I would question

585
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 5: if Chris said, yeah, Mike, I thought we'd go seven

586
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 5: and one, I say, not sure. Sure, So I think

587
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 5: that it does alter your approach to go back and

588
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 5: look at how he's handled this season. He's never given

589
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 5: out sixty million dollar contracts, was safety in a corner

590
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 5: and given Daniel Jones fourteen million because they knew that

591
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 5: they had holes to fill and what they'd done in

592
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 5: the past largely hadn't been enough, although the quarterback things

593
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 5: what held him back. But I just think this is

594
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 5: this will be a situation where everyone in that building

595
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 5: will agree that we need I'd trade for two players.

596
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 5: I'd trade for a corner and an ed rusher. If

597
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 5: I can only get one, I'd take a corner. And

598
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 5: I'm always a un edge rush guy because I think

599
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 5: an ed rush guy can do so much, but they

600
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 5: are so down the depth chart in cornerbacks. I know

601
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 5: they're going to get Moony Ward back in a couple

602
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 5: of weeks, and I know they're going to get Jalen

603
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 5: Jones back perhaps this week. But I just think they

604
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 5: need help a corner and I just don't think they'll

605
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 5: need to give a player. It'll be a fifth or

606
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 5: six pick or whatever, and and I'm okay with that.

607
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 5: It's a lesser level of giving up what was it,

608
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 5: the thirteenth pick to get the Forest Buckner right back

609
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 5: in Corny twenty. I'll do that every day if I

610
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 5: can get a player that's been what Buck's been, and

611
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 5: if I can get somebody, maybe it's somebody that's on

612
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 5: his rookie you know.

613
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: Not to cut you off there, Buckner. I want to

614
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: add onto this though. It's not even just that the

615
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: Forest Buckner is a great player, and he has been

616
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: a great player, but the Forest Buckner is also and

617
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: you and I aren't around it to that level. But

618
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: by all account, this guy is exactly from a locker

619
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: room and film room and just over and huddle presence.

620
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: He has been everything you would want.

621
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Speaker 5: When you hear guy when you hear him say he's

622
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 5: a horseshoe guy. You know they over use it, but

623
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 5: you know, I think of three or four players, and

624
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 5: he's one. He and Quinton people like that. Those are

625
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 5: the guys that are foundational players. They are and it's

626
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 5: the entire package. It's a leadership, it's it's how they

627
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 5: interact with the community, but the locker room and then

628
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 5: they're during good players. I still am. I wonder how

629
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 5: the fourth bucket would be viewed nationally if he had

630
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 5: been with Kansas City or Baltimore or Buffalo and been

631
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 5: a playoff guy throughout his career instead of, you know,

632
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 5: a super duper player on a team that's not quite

633
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 5: good enough. So I credit him as much as possible

634
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 5: for being loyal to Indianapolis. Maybe his family just loves it,

635
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 5: or I don't know, he was going to get paid

636
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 5: wherever he went, so I just I really enjoy seeing

637
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 5: him get success and teams trying to block him and

638
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 5: he just runs through them. And mother's a quarterback, so

639
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 5: I think he I probably enjoyed this as much for

640
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 5: him and Quinton as anybody, because I know what they

641
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 5: mean to the franchise and I know what they put

642
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 5: into it, and good for them, Mike.

643
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 3: The Cults have had a long lineage of stellar running backs,

644
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: you know, with Eric Dickerson, Marshall falk and now with

645
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor. Is Taylor on pace and Andrew James for

646
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: that matter, Is Taylor on pace to become the best

647
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 3: running back in franchise history with the way he's been

648
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,959
Speaker 3: performing in his sixty year Yeah.

649
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 5: Probably the only going to keep him from setting the

650
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Speaker 5: franchise rushing record is is enough years? Has he been

651
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Speaker 5: an edgrin? Gosh, they're different players. It's hard to put.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't put Dickerson and Balka there because they had

653
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Speaker 5: so much of their success elsewhere. But he and Edge.

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Speaker 5: What's really interesting is he's one rushing touchdown away from

655
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Speaker 5: Edrin's career record. I think he just got six, and

656
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Speaker 5: he's got JT's got sixty three and Edge played quite

657
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Speaker 5: a bit more games than JT did, the best running

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Speaker 5: back ever. That that's good. This will be a really

659
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Speaker 5: good discussion. Michael Pittman said, Yeah, he's done a projector

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Speaker 5: or a trajectory for the Hall of Fame. And I

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Speaker 5: didn't I didn't say, you know, hold on a minute,

662
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Speaker 5: because you've got to do it five six seven years

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Speaker 5: of this a fifteen hundred Edgron had four seasons of

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Speaker 5: fifteen hundred yards and Taylor will have had. You know,

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Speaker 5: this keeps going two extraordinary season. It takes more than

666
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Speaker 5: that to get into Hall of Fame. But that does

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Speaker 5: shouldn't diminish at all what he's doing so best. Ever,

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Speaker 5: that that will be an interesting question in a couple

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Speaker 5: of years if Taylor is still here, because do you

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Speaker 5: resign him when his contracts up? I don't know. It'll

671
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Speaker 5: be tough, it'll be tough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the you know, Taylor has more diversified himself though

673
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Speaker 1: to me, right in terms of running the football, you know,

674
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Speaker 1: he's up there the best of anybody that's come along

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Speaker 1: through here probably. But we've talked about this a lot,

676
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Speaker 1: but you know, Edrin James was just such a good

677
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Speaker 1: blitz blocker, and you know, Taylor's done a better job

678
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Speaker 1: out of the backfield with receiving the ball obviously, right,

679
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Speaker 1: he has really diversified his skill set. But Edrin James

680
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Speaker 1: seemingly just had all that right out of the womb.

681
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Speaker 1: It was like boom go, you know.

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Speaker 5: He said at Miami. He was told that if you

683
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Speaker 5: can't pass protect, you can't play. And I still think

684
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Speaker 5: Edrin is the best pass protector I've seen here As

685
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Speaker 5: a running back, Falk was close, but Edrin, he he

686
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 5: just stuck his face into. Some guys do it because

687
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Speaker 5: they have to. He did it because he I mean,

688
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 5: he was good at it, and he realized that was

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Speaker 5: part of his job. He wasn't quite the receiver that

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Speaker 5: Taylor is because he was not here enough in the

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Speaker 5: offseason or they worked on it that much. But boy

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Speaker 5: Edge Edge was so fun to watch and three hundred

693
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Speaker 5: and seventy three hundred eighty carries. He personified the one

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Speaker 5: back offense because he was the one back. But Taylor.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's funny because yesterday was the eighty year touchdown.

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Speaker 5: That's not as long as run. He had an eighty

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Speaker 5: three yarder in Houston in twenty twenty one, and ak

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Speaker 5: wasn't that he didn't score on. So it's it's just

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Speaker 5: amazing what Taylor can do. And and he's only after

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Speaker 5: eight games, so I hope he you know, knock on wood.

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Speaker 5: I hope he stays healthy and I'd like to see

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Speaker 5: if he can do what he did in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Jab do we see a trade? If you had to guess,

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Speaker 1: are we going to see a trade?

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Speaker 5: Yes? In my mind, the question is is it one

706
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Speaker 5: or two? I just think and maybe it's I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know which one is easier. It's going to

708
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Speaker 5: be easier to get, you know, it's got to be

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Speaker 5: a team that's that's not in the playoff hunt. Now, Cincinnati,

710
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Speaker 5: they've got a couple of players. I would assume Hendrickson.

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Speaker 5: I've never considered him a possibility just because of his contract,

712
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Speaker 5: but Miami's got a couple of pass rushers. Jalen Phillips

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Speaker 5: I think is the one he might work because he's

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Speaker 5: got an okay contract, a couple of Cincinnati He's got

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Speaker 5: a couple of guys I'd be interested in, and they're

716
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Speaker 5: not going anywhere. They they keep waiting for Joe Burrow

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Speaker 5: to come back, and it's gonna be too late by then.

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Speaker 5: So I think there'll be one, maybe two trades before

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Speaker 5: what the is it next Tuesday or next Wednesday, whatever

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Speaker 5: it is, the fourth.

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Speaker 1: It's a week from tomorrow, Yeah, week from tomorrow right right.

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Speaker 5: It just there's there's too many reasons to not do it,

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Speaker 5: and with trades it doesn't. It doesn't normally take a

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Speaker 5: monster draft pick. It takes a third day draft pick.

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Speaker 5: So so in this situation, certainly, and he needed to. I

726
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Speaker 5: think they will do it.

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Speaker 1: All right. We'll see what happens. Chap I know you

728
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Speaker 1: guys will be covered all of it. WXI in and

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Speaker 1: CBS four appreciate the time as always, be well, all right,

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Speaker 1: Mike Chapel joining us on the Java House, Peel and

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Speaker 1: Poor Guest Line. Two o'clock hour in Indianapolis, for that matter,

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Speaker 1: it's the two o'clock hour everywhere in the Eastern time zone.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jake Query. Eddie Garrison the other voice

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Speaker 1: you hear on this program. We call it Querying Company.

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Speaker 1: On ninety three five and one zero seven to five.

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Speaker 1: The fan perhaps our most popular guests. Certainly, he is

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Speaker 1: among the most energetic and knowledgeable. He is with Sports Illustrated.

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Speaker 1: He's a fan of Indianapolis. He is an East Coast

739
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Speaker 1: guy that has a keen eye about the NFL. Matt

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Speaker 1: Verderram joining us from SI on the Java House, Peel

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Speaker 1: and Poor Guest Line. Matt, I'm curious of this because

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Speaker 1: you offer a national perspective. Are the Indianapolis Colts the

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Speaker 1: best team in the NFL?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right now? Yeah, I mean, look.

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Speaker 6: You can the Rams beat him, and the Rams is

746
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Speaker 6: they can kick a field goal of the seven and zero,

747
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Speaker 6: but the Kansas field goals, so they're five and two.

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Speaker 6: I go, they say, look at bad and I mental

749
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Speaker 6: like understands the rules of football.

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Speaker 4: Against the Rams, they're they're un defeat of two.

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Speaker 6: Right, So I think right now the big national argument

752
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 6: against the Colts it's two prongs. One of the people

753
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Speaker 6: don't believe in Daniels. John's Okay, they're fine, Oh he's

754
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 6: played terrific this year. The other argument is, well they

755
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 6: played nobody. Well, they played the Broncos, they won, and

756
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 6: they went to the Los Angeles, so everybody loves the

757
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 6: Chargers and they beat the daylights out of the Chargers.

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Speaker 6: And I would argue, look, yeah, they've otherwise beaten bad teams.

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Speaker 6: But other than the Cardinals games they killed those days.

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Speaker 6: Those games have been over halfway through the second quarter halftime,

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Speaker 6: Like that's that's the market for really good football to me.

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Speaker 6: Look the Colts, especially offensively, Uh yeah, any any hype

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Speaker 6: is justified when you are winning the they are winning

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Speaker 6: these games.

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Speaker 1: You know, Matt, what I've said is this, and so

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Speaker 1: I guess I'll turn it into a question for you.

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Speaker 1: I hear a lot of people say to your point,

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Speaker 1: and I get it. The Colts haven't beaten anybody. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: and I disagree with you on that because charge it.

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Speaker 1: You know what you just spelled out. But in that event,

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Speaker 1: if some move were to say about anybody in the

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Speaker 1: NFL right now, well I haven't beaten anybody. Who is

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Speaker 1: somebody like in this year's NFL who is somebody?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 6: I mean it's a short list, right, I mean, we're

776
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Speaker 6: probably it's an extremely weird year.

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Speaker 4: In the NFL right now.

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Speaker 6: Like I'm on my way to arrowa state has covered

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Speaker 6: them on that football game. I'm driving through Iowa, which

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Speaker 6: by the way, should be a federal crime having to

781
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Speaker 6: drive allway through Iowa. But like, realistically, I'm going to

782
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Speaker 6: watch a feign three team.

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Speaker 4: They're the favorites to win the Super.

784
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Speaker 6: Bowl, and every sports work in the country, like when

785
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Speaker 6: is the last time a foreign three team was favored

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Speaker 6: to win anything?

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Speaker 4: Maybe their own division?

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Speaker 6: But like that's the league r in this year the Eagles.

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Speaker 6: People have dumped on them all year long. They're six

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Speaker 6: and the Lions, I would say, are another team that

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Speaker 6: you'd respect if they're five to The Packers are five

792
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Speaker 6: on a one, the Rams, you know, Indianapolis, maybe Buffalo.

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Speaker 6: Even Buffalo has been very gettable this year. It's not

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Speaker 6: a great league, which I.

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Speaker 4: Think, by the way, makes it a really interesting season

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Speaker 4: because you're gonna have a lot of playoff games in Genuary.

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Speaker 4: You don't know where they're gonna go.

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Speaker 6: I would also say too, like, fuck, the Colt Styler

799
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Speaker 6: schedule is gonna get harder here coming up. Uh, you

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Speaker 6: know the game at Pittsburgh, I think they should win,

801
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Speaker 6: but it's not an easy game. A couple of weeks

802
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Speaker 6: they go to Arrowhead, Like, let's say they lose either

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Speaker 6: to Kansas City or to a team of that ILK

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Speaker 6: in the next month month and a half, you know,

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Speaker 6: they maybe it was a really hard fuck game and

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Speaker 6: they lose thirty to twenty seven. What does that mean

807
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Speaker 6: they're a fraud? Like if they lose that game by

808
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Speaker 6: three points or a six points, does that mean? And

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Speaker 6: if they win it, I think that would give.

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Speaker 4: Them the justification if it. Yeah, they're the best team football,

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Speaker 4: but I don't think they need like.

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Speaker 6: Right now when you're winning the by margins, they're winning

813
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Speaker 6: by you're really good, Like, I don't know that.

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Speaker 4: They need that validation. Maybe naturally they do. They don't smy.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Matt, you can put this one like

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Speaker 1: in a little like in your phone and the notes thing.

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Speaker 1: Don't do it right now while you're driving on Have

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Speaker 1: you been through Iowa where you can stop at the

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Speaker 1: world's largest truck stop? At least? Have you done that yet?

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Speaker 6: Bro, I've done that about twenty five times in my

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Speaker 6: life maybe, And I gotta tell you it is outrageous.

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Speaker 6: Like there's dental offices.

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Speaker 4: In that.

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Speaker 1: There's a I would have there. One time, there's a

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Speaker 1: barber shop and I thought to myself, the only problem

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Speaker 1: with getting my haircut in this barber shop is the

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Speaker 1: comb touched the hair of the guy before me, right,

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Speaker 1: And there's like it's there are some strange looking cats

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Speaker 1: walking around that joint.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot going on. At one time I was

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Speaker 4: in it.

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Speaker 6: There's a line that there's a like Einstein Bagels, who

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Speaker 6: whatever the hell it was.

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Speaker 4: And I was there and I'm in New Yorker, So there's.

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Speaker 6: A guy in front of me, the Hell's Angels, jacket

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Speaker 6: on and win in New York.

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Speaker 4: Pats, hey man, we're part of New York. And he

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Speaker 4: turned around and looked at me like you want to

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Speaker 4: kill me? Hey, I fucked down? Got assassins humanly possible?

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Speaker 6: But uh yeah no, Iowa, Ioway is a battle to

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Speaker 6: test your shelter, see how much you really want to live.

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Speaker 4: I feel that's what I will.

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Speaker 6: Put you throw it in four and a half hours ago.

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Speaker 4: What's founded down as it may be.

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Speaker 1: Listen, you need to stop it made right. You need

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Speaker 1: to stop at a maid right and get a made right,

847
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: loose meat sandwich. And when you do it, you will

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Speaker 1: become part Iowan and you'll be like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: It's all good. Now, I'm telling you, I'm telling.

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Speaker 4: You I have to get a shot on the way

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Speaker 4: back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm telling you. If you think taco about Cantina

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Speaker 1: saves Downtown Indy, you you ain't seen anything like made

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00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: right saves Iowa. I'm just telling you that right now, Matt,

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Speaker 1: outside of Indianapolis, I mean, the Colts are the obvious

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00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: answer here. But outside of the Colts, tell me a

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Speaker 1: team in the National Football League right now whose record

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Speaker 1: may not overwhelm you. But they've been in because they're

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00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: actually getting the most out of what they have on roster.

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Speaker 4: Well, so there's a few ways to answer that question.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Kansas City in regards to back to fourth

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Speaker 6: Ravia Watchmen, it feels like they're almost to stop.

863
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 4: But to the speriard of your question, there's a few

864
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 4: teams you could point to.

865
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 6: I mean, look, I would say, like to Denver six

866
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 6: and two, so their record is impressive and you watch

867
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 6: them and you're like, I don't know how this team

868
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 6: is six and two at this offense that Dallas is

869
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 6: notwithstanding because Dallas Brosus defensively, but you know, you look

870
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 6: at them and you know what, like, all right, there's

871
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 6: the team, though I think that probably is Seattle, like

872
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 6: Chattles five and two and the bye week this week

873
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 6: they're number one in DVOA. And you look at the

874
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 6: Seahawks and okay, Jackson's spit, the jig has been great,

875
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 6: and Darnald has proven not to be a fluke that

876
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 6: is not an overwhelming roster. Like you don't look at

877
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 6: Seattle and just go, oh my god.

878
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 4: They got eight Pro bowlers and five All Pro.

879
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 6: Like they're fine. But then you watch them play and

880
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 6: they're really good. They're really good.

881
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 4: Now can they win a Super Bowl? I don't know.

882
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 4: I had a lot of a hard time picking them

883
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 4: against Philly or Detroit or Green Bay in a playoff game.

884
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 6: I think the playoffs are a different animal than the

885
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 6: regular season.

886
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 4: But I get to see.

887
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 6: Add a lot of credit in the sense that I

888
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 6: think going into the year, I thought they would be fine.

889
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 6: I thought they compete for a playoff spot. But they've

890
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 6: shown to be more than the sum of their part.

891
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 6: And that's the credit to the coaching staff. It's the credit

892
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 6: to Darnald and smiting the jig that's gone from being

893
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 6: an up and coming star to a superstar to being

894
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 6: a top five to ten.

895
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 4: Receiver in the NFL.

896
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: I like the fact that you thought because the guys

897
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: Hell's Angels, vest said New York that, like you guys

898
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: were gonna bond over a bagel together, right, I thought

899
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: we could talk.

900
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I got another there's the Iowa.

901
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 6: And you know, listen, I had an uncle who may

902
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 6: or may not have been in a few interesting or

903
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 6: nations in his life, maybe including that one.

904
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 4: So let's get I get talked to this. I had

905
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 4: concerned I could not talk to that guy.

906
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: He thought maybe he knew Uncle Mike. Okay, that's cool.

907
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 6: Guy, this is all right, And as it turns immediately

908
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 6: his facialist prectable Hill is not alright. Yeah, how did

909
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 6: I say?

910
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: Hey?

911
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 1: Which is the If you had to pick one one

912
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: of two right now that would be listed as the

913
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: MVP for the Indianapolis Colts, would you say Jonathan Taylor

914
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: or Daniel Jones.

915
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 4: Jones? Taylor has been the better. Taylor's been unbelievable.

916
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 6: I mean, to me right now, I give like my

917
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 6: old fit Michiesel ProTeam comes out to Marvel's Sports Illustrated,

918
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 6: not the break any shocking news, but like Taylor's obviously

919
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 6: on my own protra he has been unbelievable. I think

920
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 6: he and McCaffrey have been the two best running backs

921
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 6: in the league. And McCaffrey mostly his good vister C.

922
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 6: Taylor has been spectacular. But I would say Jones to

923
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 6: the standpoint that look, if if they got the quarterback

924
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 6: play they Let's be honest, a lot of us thought

925
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 6: they were gonna get come into the season, whether it

926
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 6: be from Jones or.

927
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 4: From Anthony Richinson.

928
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 6: Their record is what right now, you know, I mean

929
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 6: it's it's maybe maybe because of this a little bit

930
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 6: of as off the schedule, maybe it's five and three

931
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 6: something like. But nobody's sitting here thinking about them, is

932
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 6: seeing that could legitimately get in the Amy playoffs and

933
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 6: do a lot of damage. Whereas Jones. Jones has not

934
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 6: been as good of a quarterback as Taylor has been

935
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 6: a running back, but because of the importance of the

936
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 6: position and the and the stability Jones has brought to it.

937
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 6: Like He's only got three three hundred yards in a

938
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 6: game once this year, believe, but he has been so consistent,

939
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 6: He's been accurate, he has not turned the ball over,

940
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 6: He's made plays under down and they've needed it. Like

941
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 6: that is to me, the difference between Taylor having a

942
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 6: great season on a decent team and Taylor having a

943
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 6: great season on a team that could really contend for

944
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 6: something meaningful and so well, I think Taylor is certainly

945
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 6: the better player. I think Jones is the MVP because

946
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 6: the position he plays is just the paramount sports.

947
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: How much of this is he walked into a situation

948
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: with a coach like Shane Steichen that was kind of

949
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: a quarterback whisper and had better talent around him than

950
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: he did in New York. And how much of it

951
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: is just the natural progression and growth of a quarterback.

952
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 4: I think it's a lot of them the former.

953
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 6: Look, I'm a big believer that quarterbacks not all. I mean,

954
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 6: there are some guys who are just so special it

955
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 6: maybe it wouldn't matter most guys, the majority of quarterbacks,

956
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 6: their success or failure, it's just where are you going?

957
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 4: Where are you going in the league. I remember last

958
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 4: year I own a story of that vit.

959
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 6: I was up in Minnesota for like, I think it

960
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 6: was like two or three days last week of the season.

961
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,479
Speaker 6: They're going to play Detroit in that game for winner

962
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 6: take all, and I was talking the people in the building.

963
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 6: And then while I was at the hotel, I was

964
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 6: talking to some people around the league to kind of

965
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 6: get killed for the story of background. And I talked

966
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 6: to this one personnel director in the NFL about Darnell

967
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,959
Speaker 6: as how surprised the you that he's playing as well,

968
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 6: And he was like, I'm not like he got drafted

969
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 6: by the Jets.

970
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 4: There's the Jets. Of course they screwed it.

971
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: Up, and but.

972
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 4: That's like a common spead of it.

973
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 6: I think that's a lot about how people feel about jumps,

974
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 6: where it's like, well, yeah, he went to the Giants,

975
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 6: like of course it's the Giant.

976
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 4: Now.

977
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 6: Look, you could argue that Dable is not, you know,

978
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 6: a bad coach. You can argue is how your opinion

979
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 6: is of him, but that organization had stunk now for

980
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 6: the better part of fifteen years, and with psych him.

981
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 6: I remember writing when they signed him, Look they brought

982
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 6: him into three reason. He's got mobility, he's accurate, and

983
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 6: he doesn't turned the football over and they will just

984
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 6: give him Eagy for a fusion that.

985
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 4: He's played better than that. He makes some really tough

986
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 4: throw too. But I'm not surprised.

987
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 6: He's played the best football that I'm surprised he's played as.

988
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 4: Well as has. I didn't have him going for forty

989
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 4: yards of my bingo card, but he's He's been what

990
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 4: I thought he'd be, but on.

991
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 6: Steroids, and that is to a team that is not

992
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 6: just winning, they are dominating people. And so look, I

993
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 6: don't know how the back half of the year will

994
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 6: play out. I expect them to be very good. I

995
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 6: expect him to play well and I expect them to

996
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 6: be hosting at minimum, you know, or one bigger playoff games,

997
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 6: is not all of them as the.

998
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 4: Season on TAULT.

999
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: Do you think Matt Berderram is our guest by the

1000
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: way he's on the Java House peel and poor guest line.

1001
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: His work can be read at SI, including his mid

1002
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: season All Pro Team coming out. Matt, do you believe

1003
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones that this is now a foregone conclusion

1004
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: slam dunk, that the Colts go ahead and lock him

1005
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: in long term or do you think they still want

1006
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: to see more and in particular in the second half

1007
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 1: when you have Kansas City, San Francisco, Seattle, et cetera

1008
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: on the schedule.

1009
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 4: I'd want to.

1010
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 6: See the second half because I think that only proved

1011
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 6: and not because I'm waiting for the other shooting drop.

1012
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 6: Because look, you have a lot of evidence prior to

1013
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 6: this year that Daniel Jones is somewhere between a backup

1014
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 6: and a low level starting quarterback. Now, all of a sudden,

1015
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 6: this Hue, you have evidence that he looks like he's

1016
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 6: a top ten quarterback in football.

1017
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 4: If I'm the coach, I'm not in some massive rush

1018
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 4: to extend him right now. Like, you get to the

1019
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 4: end of the year if you have to tag him.

1020
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 6: And then sign him off to tag Like, I don't

1021
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 6: think there's this overwhelming Oh my goodness, if we don't

1022
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 6: sign him before week eleven, what's gonna happen?

1023
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 4: Like, why, there's no there's no big push now, I

1024
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 4: get it. You could argue, well, what if he plays lights.

1025
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 6: Out the whole rest of Okay, that's a good problem

1026
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 6: to half depending him a couple extermillion years, so one

1027
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 6: who cares you get your quarterback doesn't matter.

1028
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 4: I would wait. I would wait to see how it goes,

1029
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 4: because the last of you, honest is lock him in me.

1030
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 6: Look, this is in much different situation, but I remember,

1031
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 6: you know, wait that years back. Ryan Fitzpatrick for the

1032
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 6: Bills was like unbelievable the first four or five weeks

1033
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 6: of the year, and they gave.

1034
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 4: Him what sounds like nothing now but like a sixty

1035
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 4: six million dollar contract. They won one game the rest

1036
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 4: of the year. But I don't think that's gonna happen here.

1037
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 4: They have a much bigger sample size. But I would

1038
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 4: wait it out. I see how it goes.

1039
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 6: If you mention, look, their schedule is tougher, they have

1040
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 6: some teams the back half year, even Houston a team

1041
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 6: it's not great, but very good. Defensively, they would play

1042
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 6: them twice like I'd wait it out. But if he

1043
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 6: continues to play like yeah, they're gonna open up the wall.

1044
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 6: They're not gonna let him walk out the door.

1045
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: What challenges does Pittsburgh present for the Colts? What do

1046
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: the Steelers do well that could perhaps be of Achilles

1047
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: to Indianapolish Nothing.

1048
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 4: Defensively, They're an absolute tire fire.

1049
00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 6: Eventually, I mean defensively between them and Dallas, it.

1050
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 4: Was like it was like watching elevend on six.

1051
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 6: But look, I think you know Pittsburgh, they they've run

1052
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 6: the ball off better since they've really kind of leaned into.

1053
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 4: Jail and Warren. You know, gain Well has been a

1054
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 4: nice little change of pace back. So they're gonna look,

1055
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 4: they can run the ball. They're they're they're very good

1056
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 4: in the quick game passing.

1057
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 6: Now, now, one thing about them, they very rarely stretched

1058
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 6: the field. Rogers has the lowest average depth of target

1059
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 6: of anybody in the NFL. Like everything with them, even on.

1060
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 4: Longer down in distance is short. Big thing in the

1061
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 4: same Vehiclets got to tackle it.

1062
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 6: Doesn't he can complete the seven percent passes, makes no

1063
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 6: difference because every pass is like four yards outfield.

1064
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 4: You have to tackle.

1065
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 6: You know, you're not gonna get a ton of stacks

1066
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 6: in this game because it's just it's the way the

1067
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 6: Steelers play is doctor dusters do it. But gotta be

1068
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 6: you know, gat the sound assignments. Defensively against the run,

1069
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 6: you got to be able to tackle on his face.

1070
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 6: The secondary, they're gonna try to stretch out Metcalf obviously,

1071
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 6: big body guy. Not these just got to bring down

1072
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 6: and then look, defensively, the one thing can do is

1073
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 6: is they can rush the passer. And that's if you

1074
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 6: can block, you can you can do whatever you want. Again,

1075
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 6: that that's secondary is awful. But you know, hold up

1076
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 6: against hold up against Watt and her big and high

1077
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 6: Smith Heyward. That that's the challenge that defense presents. There's

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Speaker 6: not much else they do well to get pressure.

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Speaker 1: I noticed you went tire fire instead of dumpster fire.

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Speaker 1: Now I prefer tire fire as well, especially living in Indie.

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Speaker 1: But do you is there a difference really between tire

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Speaker 1: fire and dumpster fire?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think it.

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Speaker 6: Dumpster fire is a bigger fire, like like I feel like,

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Speaker 6: whatever the hell Cincinnati did defensively yesterday, that's.

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Speaker 4: A dumpster fire. Okay, that I mean you give you

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Speaker 4: give a five hundred meaning automatically, is it? I?

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Speaker 6: You know, the only reason the Bengals haven't fired everybody

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Speaker 6: defensively is it's just too much trouble to do that

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Speaker 6: right now. But yeah, I got to dumps the fires

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Speaker 6: and more all.

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Speaker 1: Encompassing, tire more isolated, but a lot of smoke, a

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Speaker 1: lot of thick, thick smoke with a tire fire, just

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Speaker 1: so you know.

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Speaker 6: A lot of attensure being drawn to the entire fire

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Speaker 6: from a wife.

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Speaker 4: Go.

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Speaker 1: That is correct, all right, Matt. In conclusion here, now,

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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, and I'm going off of your

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Speaker 1: ex post twitter bio, which is always all knowing, it

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Speaker 1: says that you do do radio work as well for

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Sports Network. That is fact correct, Yeah, podcast?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, okay, okay, So you can throw out

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Speaker 1: that fact if I didn't mention it earlier. It is

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Speaker 1: a fun, fun fact that Patrick mahomes when these two

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Speaker 1: teams face each other November twenty third, I believe in

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Speaker 1: the regular season there is only one franchise in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League that Patrick Mahomes has not beaten in

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Speaker 1: a regular season game, and it happens to be the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. And that seemed to be a FATA complete

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year that that would end

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Speaker 1: this year. But we shall see what happens in November.

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Speaker 1: But there's your that you can share.

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Speaker 6: That is that is I believe a actors. There's one

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Speaker 6: of the team. But it's like Minnesota be to be

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Speaker 6: a last year. Yeah no, that Look that game you

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Speaker 6: can make an argument the game of the year, like

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Speaker 6: if they continue to play this way.

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Speaker 4: Uh, you know, look they got a rough going. I

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Speaker 4: mean they've got Buffalo.

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Speaker 6: And Denver on the road the next two weeks before

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Speaker 6: the Indianapolis games, they're three their next day Reacher are

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Speaker 6: pretty challenging. But after that they played Dobe and they

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Speaker 6: may not loosen to the game after that. It won't

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Speaker 6: be very if the Colts going to Arrowhead and either

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Speaker 6: beat them or play into the liner. I don't think

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Speaker 6: anybody can say any nationally anymore. I don't think you're

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Speaker 6: any question about how good the Colts CONTROLI are Matt.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate the time as always, man drive safe, and enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Iowa all right, two miles from getting.

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Speaker 4: Out, and I've never driven faster my life.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm telling you I want a full report on

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Speaker 1: Mad Right Sandwiches next time we talk. Matt Verderram joining

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Speaker 1: us on the Java House peel and poor guest line