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Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: No, Barack cussaid Obama is the ringleader.

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton was right there with him, and so was

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Speaker 1: sleeping Joe Buden and so with the rest of them,

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Speaker 1: call me Clapper, the whole group.

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Speaker 2: And they tried to rig an election, and they got caught.

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Speaker 1: And then they did rig the election in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: And then because I knew I won that election by

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Speaker 1: a lot, I did it a third time and I

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Speaker 1: won in a landslide. Every swing state won the popular vote,

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Speaker 1: but I won that all the same way in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: And look at the damn that was.

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Speaker 2: Cast, real damage that was indeed caused.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know why people are shocked by President

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Speaker 1: Trump saying this. What are you supposed to say about

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Speaker 1: somebody who orchestrated an attack on the duly elected president

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Speaker 1: of the United States because they didn't like the fact

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Speaker 1: that they won. That's what Barack Obama did. That's what

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Speaker 1: James Comy did, That's what James Clapper did. That's that's

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Speaker 1: what John Brennan did. This isn't a debate. This is

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Speaker 1: what happened. This is who they are Tony Katz, Tony

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Speaker 1: Kats today, good to be with you. People are shocked

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Speaker 1: and stunned. And who does the president think he is

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Speaker 1: going after a former president of the United States? Well,

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Speaker 1: that is just flat.

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Speaker 2: Out of seeing. And on CNN they go, well crazy,

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Speaker 2: delate the votes right now, they didn't even influence votes.

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Speaker 1: They've had intentions of why do we talk about this?

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Speaker 1: This is not the issue here.

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Speaker 3: The president, President Obama said that Russia did not manipulate

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Speaker 3: it us. We should note that because every liberal in

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Speaker 3: America said that was the king everything. Not to talk

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Speaker 3: about the fact that the president of the United States,

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Speaker 3: the current president of the United States, just accused a

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Speaker 3: former president of treason and suggested a prosecution of that

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Speaker 3: former president with no evidence.

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Speaker 1: That is the problem. You can call it, don't I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to call down. I don't think to talk

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Speaker 1: about that instead of talking about Obama because Obama just

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Speaker 1: un here's a Democrat mythology. Police. Let's not talk about this.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about your distrections. The problem

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Speaker 1: is it's not a distraction, Keith boy kid, it's you

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Speaker 1: not being able to have any control of yourself. He

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Speaker 1: was right.

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Speaker 2: You need to calm down. May I suggest a little

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Speaker 2: bit of you?

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Speaker 1: Who? I find that to be very soothing? Why in

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Speaker 1: the world are we talking about Barack Obama? How dare

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Speaker 1: you accuse as a former president? I'm sorry? Did we

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Speaker 1: all or did we all not live through four years

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Speaker 1: of Donald Trump being accused of everything? You had no

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Speaker 1: issue with it? Keith, you had no problem with it, Keith,

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Speaker 1: you were fine with it. Keith, you supported it. Keith,

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Speaker 1: if I did a five minute search on Google, I

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Speaker 1: I need is bing. You know what. You give me

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Speaker 1: three minutes with ask Jeeves and I'll find everything.

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Speaker 2: You ever not said about this subject?

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Speaker 1: You ever not said, you ever did not say. I

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Speaker 1: think you get my point. You didn't do anything, and

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Speaker 1: now you're just angry and upset. Barack Obama's a bad guy.

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Speaker 1: What's so wrong with saying so what? He gets some

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Speaker 1: be addressed for the absolutely horrific political.

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Speaker 2: Human being he is.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how he is his a husband, I

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Speaker 1: And yes, this is what they engaged in. And yes

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Speaker 1: he is no better nor no worse. If we're going

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Speaker 1: to say he's somebody we can't talk about, of course

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Speaker 1: we can, just like anybody else, and past presidents of

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Speaker 1: former presidents who have engaged in illicit activities, violating their

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Speaker 1: And for you to sit there and be like, how

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Speaker 1: it's time for this whole CNN panel, all these progressives

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Speaker 1: you know we won't fall for you anymore? This must

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Speaker 1: be the most upsetting part. You can't threaten, you can't cajole,

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Speaker 1: you can't attack, you can't vilify. Honey, we've been through

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Speaker 1: this and we don't give a damn. Barack Obama worked

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Speaker 1: a story that Trump was working with the Russians, that

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Speaker 1: manipulate the election. They made it up. Now, do I

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Speaker 1: think that the Russians work aggressively to try and mess

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Speaker 1: But the story here is quite clear that there was

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Speaker 1: to do something about it. Wasn't there. If you ask

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Speaker 1: me if Barack Obama is a criminal, I say yes.

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Speaker 1: If you want to say innocent, will proven guilty, you

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Speaker 1: can say that too. But I say, charge him and

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Speaker 1: Brennan and Kmy and Clapper and these elitists. Oh how

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Speaker 1: pious they think they are. They are the lowest of

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Speaker 1: the low, They are the scummiest of the scum. And

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Speaker 1: my suggestion is charge them. Say the words. I think

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Speaker 1: these guys are guilty of treason, charge them, put together

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Speaker 1: the case, and charge them. That is the accurate thing

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Speaker 1: notice how this differs from the political left, because the

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Speaker 1: political left says, hey, I disagree with Donald Trump. Kill him.

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Speaker 1: Do you see the difference. I said, charge him. I

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Speaker 1: didn't say, don't give him a lawyer. He gets a lawyer.

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Speaker 1: I said innocent until proven guilty. I didn't say he's

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Speaker 1: guilty because I decided so, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: that happened, I said, charge him. The left is outraged

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Speaker 1: that you would even question him. Why Barack Obama special?

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Speaker 1: The guy who threw Joe Biden out of office and

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Speaker 1: not necessarily be welcome in democratic politics anymore. He's on

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Speaker 2: Come now, Come now.

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Speaker 1: But Donald Trump is right to have this conversation and

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Speaker 1: is right in saying what he is saying that these

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Speaker 1: they are these people engaged in activities that are a

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Speaker 1: be aggressive about it. And there's more and more information

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Speaker 1: out this about the Steele dossier, which of course was

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Speaker 1: progressives are when they have power. They'll tell you that

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Speaker 1: Trump is a threat to democracy. Look at this, what's

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Speaker 1: the threat that Trump is going to utilize the law

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Speaker 1: that progressives so desperate for power, will lie about Russians

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Speaker 1: more authoritarian. Case rested. And Keith Poinking of CNN is wrong,

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Speaker 1: you Trump is the authoritarian while the authoritarians walk free.

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Speaker 1: As we have often discussed, they will accuse you of

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Speaker 1: recourse is November third, twenty twenty sixth Ah, don't get

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Speaker 1: there should be a trial, absolutely not a show trial,

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. There is a

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Speaker 1: whoa hold up, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to

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Speaker 1: be with you. So Alena Habba was Trump's lawyer. Remember

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Speaker 1: That was very much kickback situation, while she had hired

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Speaker 1: The Democratic Party has become convinced that the Epstein files

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Speaker 2: It's not the way any of this is going to work.

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Speaker 1: Not an ounce of it is going to happen that way.

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Speaker 1: And I'm I mean, I'm I wasn't planning on having

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Speaker 1: this conversation right now. I'm I'm I'm glad though that

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Speaker 1: we are. They believe that somehow this is a winner.

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Speaker 1: I I later, if you haven't. You'll hear my conversation

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Speaker 1: with Ed Marssey off hot air dot com and we

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Speaker 1: get into a little bit of this conversation, along with

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Speaker 1: a host of others. When you don't have much you

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Speaker 1: when you don't have a policy that will work for

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Speaker 1: you, you kind of, you know, you kind of do anything.

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Speaker 2: This is all they have.

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Speaker 1: This is all that the left has, hope that they

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Speaker 1: can turn this into more and more of an issue.

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Speaker 2: They don't even understand that the.

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Speaker 1: Moment has passed. What is the argument we make here?

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Speaker 1: All the time? The political left always overplays their hand,

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Speaker 1: always on every subject. It is one thing to say

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Speaker 1: we want the release of the files. It's another thing

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Speaker 1: to say Republicans are protecting pedophiles when the Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: believes that children can be mutilated and it's okay boys

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Speaker 1: can be girls, and it's fine. Girls should have to

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Speaker 1: compete against boys in sports, change with them in the

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Speaker 1: locker rooms, and just lay back and take it.

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Speaker 2: That's what Akim Jeffries thinks.

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Speaker 1: Hakim Jeffries thinks your fifteen year old daughter should just

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Speaker 1: lay back and take it from a man.

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty rude thing to say, if you ask me.

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Speaker 1: But I'm utilizing the Hikeem Jefferies playbook and this is

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Speaker 1: how it works. My god, this gets very ugly, and

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Speaker 1: it gets very ugly when Trump is is is Trump

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Speaker 1: calling in right here to this thing on? Was he

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Speaker 1: calling in to CNN? Listen?

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Speaker 5: When you get all this and all of this, I

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Speaker 5: just want to emphasize, right, it has not been seen before.

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Speaker 2: So you actually called President Trump? You called him directly

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Speaker 2: to ask him about this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we were not on the phone very long. I

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Speaker 5: think our call is about thirty seconds or so. But

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Speaker 5: when I asked him about the wedding photo, he said

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Speaker 5: he sort of paused for a second and then said,

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Speaker 5: you've got to be kidding me before calling CNN fake

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Speaker 5: news and then hanging up on me.

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Speaker 1: Now in a statement, Okay, that was Andrew Kazinski. I believe, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he hung up on you. I thought he had hung

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Speaker 1: up on CNN though I was playing on CNN. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a part of that, all this insanity,

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Speaker 1: this lie from the wall sheet journey has to be

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Speaker 1: part of any of it at all. That's all about

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Speaker 1: the destruction stuff he's been through that We've been through that.

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Speaker 2: That's why we won't get moved by it.

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Speaker 1: The fact that we want the data doesn't change where

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Speaker 1: we are in support of the border, the Middle East,

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Speaker 1: the economy, a host of things that a Keeam Jefferies

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Speaker 1: can't offer anything on. So I hope I answered the question, Matt,

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Speaker 1: I really hope I did. It's not bad that Democrats

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Speaker 1: want the files. Their reason for it has nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with justice. It all has to do with how

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Speaker 1: they can tear people down, because that's the only thing

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Speaker 1: they care about. This is Tony Katz today, McLaughlin Pole

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Speaker 1: or is it McLoughlin.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Seventy seven percent of those Pole deposed amnesty, and fifty

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Speaker 1: six percent say to port every illegal alien.

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Speaker 2: Out. People are gonna say, Tony.

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Speaker 1: This was a poll that was commissioned by Tea Party

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Speaker 1: Patriots Action, and I think the first thing to ask

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Speaker 1: yourself is there's still a Tea Party Patriots That group

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Speaker 1: is still around. Yeah, Jenny Beth Martin is still around.

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Speaker 1: What do you know about that? What do you know

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Speaker 1: about that? Do I think that the Pole is accurate? Yes?

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Speaker 1: If you told me the number wasn't seventy seven percent

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Speaker 1: it was seventy three percent. If you told me who

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Speaker 1: opposed am and see if you told me it wasn't

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Speaker 1: fifty six percent who say to port every illegal, but

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Speaker 1: fifty four percent. I would say to you, we're all

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Speaker 1: in the same conversation here that this is not a

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Speaker 1: fifty to fifty subject. This is greater than that that

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Speaker 1: we have in America, people who at very much their core.

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Speaker 2: Oppose the idea wholeheartedly.

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Speaker 1: Of cheaters winning and people who break the laws to

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Speaker 1: get in the country cheated. Now, maybe you could argue

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Speaker 1: we should have an easier test, which would be a

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Speaker 1: conversation regarding how we we bring about legal immigration. That

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Speaker 1: would at least be a discussion. But when you come

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Speaker 1: here illegally and you're allowed to stay for years, you

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Speaker 1: are you're saying you don't even want to take the test,

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Speaker 1: And that's what people oppose. In the end, this is

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Speaker 1: what people oppose. And I and and this is true

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Speaker 1: and and and accurate across as I think, across the

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Speaker 1: political spectrum. It's one of those things that is ingrained

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Speaker 1: in us. And I would almost go so far as

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Speaker 1: to say, this is you know, when we talk about

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Speaker 1: nature and Nature's law, this is kind of it right.

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Speaker 1: We don't believe that you should get something for nothing.

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Speaker 1: We don't believe that cheaters should win, cheaters never win,

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Speaker 1: and winners never cheat. Doesn't matter where you come from,

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Speaker 1: we still think it true. So yeah, I think that

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Speaker 1: polling is accurate, and I think Trump should stay on

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Speaker 1: this subject and keep winning. Press briefing is coming. Let's

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Speaker 1: hear what Caroline Levitt has to say. This is Tony

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