1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: a free state, the right of the people to keep 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: in their arms shall not be infringed. This is the 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: Second Amendment, and this is the gun Guy boom. 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: Boom boom boom bang bang bang bang boom boom, boom 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: boom bang bang bom. 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Guy Ralford on ninety three WYPC. 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: Well, good evening and welcome to the Gun Guy Show 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 3: on ninety three WYBC. I am sure that you have 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 3: been wired to the TV or Fox News on the 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: radio today following the events in Iran, as I have 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: been momentous events. This is a big deal. And the 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: ramifications for the Middle East, the ramifications for things like 14 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: oil prices, the ability to get oil through the Hormuz straight, 15 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: all the different ramifications, permutations, impacts of these events. In 16 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 3: addition to the fact that now we have people on 17 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: multiple military bases in the Middle East that are in 18 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 3: harm's way, that are subject to the rossal rocket missile attacks, 19 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: et cetera from Iran, a lot going on, A lot 20 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: to be concerned about. Is toppling this dictatorship, the suppressive 21 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: regime in Iran. A big deal, yes, is maintaining the 22 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: security of the United States and Israel and our allies 23 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: in the Middle East against this regime important, absolutely, and again, 24 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: the global political ramifications of all of this are just extreme. 25 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: It's a big deal and it's something worthy of a 26 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: lot of attention. And I'm sure again that if you've 27 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: been listen in the WIBC throughout the day, you've heard 28 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: the Fox News live feed, and I listen to that 29 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: intently and again because this is something that I think 30 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: will remember, our kids will remember, because it's a significant issue. 31 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 3: At the same time, as someone who has taken responsibility 32 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 3: for my own safety, my own security, the safety and 33 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: security of my family, and wanting to play a role 34 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: in the safety and security of my community. When I 35 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: see these events unfolding in Iran, one of my first 36 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: thoughts is, Okay, what does this do here domestically in 37 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: terms of risks that we need to be aware of, 38 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 3: we need to be mindful of, we need to keep 39 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 3: an eye out for right here domestically. And you're saying, 40 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: hold on, wait a minute, what are you talking about, Ralford. 41 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: This is and a war going on in the Middle East. 42 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 3: Iran is many many thousands of miles away from here. 43 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 3: Why are you talking about what's going on here, Well, 44 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: there is always the potential for terrorism and acts of 45 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: terrorism here. And one of the first things that I 46 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: thought of when I saw this attack by the United 47 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: States and Israel, the coordinated attack on military assets of Iran, 48 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: on any reconstituted nuclear capabilities and infrastructure that they're trying 49 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: to maintain or resume there in Iran. When I saw 50 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: what was going on, and then President Trump's speech where 51 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: he indicated that he intends to eradicate the navy, the 52 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: missile capability, and essentially the military capability of the Islamic 53 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: Republic of Iraq of Iran. Rather excuse me, when I 54 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: saw all of that. Again, that's the focus. But again, 55 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: what I do for a living, what my focus has been, 56 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: what I've taught for generations a couple of generations anyway, 57 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: involves and it makes me reflective on issues around personal 58 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: security right here at home. And here's where those two 59 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: things intersect. One of the things that I looked into 60 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: after Operation Midnight Hammer, if you don't remember that term, 61 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: that's what we talked about when last July June, I 62 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: believe last June late June last year, we sent some 63 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 3: b two bombers and some bunker buster bombs, and we 64 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: went over there, and we, according to President Trump, and 65 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 3: I have no reason to dispute this or doubt it, 66 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: we destroyed at that time the nuclear capabilities of Iran. 67 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 3: And they had some underground laboratories of underground production facilities, 68 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: underground centrifuges and whatnot necessary for the production of nuclear 69 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: weapons and obtaining nuclear grade plutonium. And we, according to 70 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: the reports, we got destroyed that. Immediately thereafter, A lot 71 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: of concern was voiced by the government, and a lot 72 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: of attention given by customs and Border patrol to whether 73 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 3: or not we had the potential for Iranian sleeper cells, 74 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: Iranian terrorist groups, or even terrorist individuals here in the 75 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: United States, and whether those folks had come into the 76 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: United States, particularly during the four years of open borders 77 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: that existed during the Biden administration, and whether that subjected 78 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 3: the American public, the American infrastructure, the American government to 79 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: an increased level of risk given the fact that in 80 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 3: some significant number of illegal aliens, in fact, millions of 81 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: illegal aliens in total, but some significant number of individuals 82 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: from Iran had entered the country through the open borders 83 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: that existed during the Biden administration, and so looking at that, 84 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: I decided to delve into that, see if I could 85 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: get any specifics, see if I could come up with 86 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: any numbers in terms of what we're talking about and 87 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: what's really interesting, because this was discussed quite a bit 88 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: around the time of Operation Midnight Hammer, the bombing of 89 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 3: Iron's nuclear facilities back in late June, and very soon 90 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 3: after that operation. In fact, on June twenty fourth, there 91 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: was a report and I found this in multiple places. 92 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: In fact, I found it posted on the Homeland Security 93 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 3: Administration's will owned website. It says ICE arrests eleven Iranian 94 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: nationals illegally in the US over the weekend, and Homeland 95 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: Security identified these individuals, including one guy red Var Kareemi, 96 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: who was living in Alabama, had served as an Iranian 97 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: army sniper and was in the US illegally. An ICE 98 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: and Customs and Border Patrol found this guy, chased him down, 99 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: found that he was here illegally, and arrested him. And 100 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: there were more, including multiple people. One guy Bizad Najad 101 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: I'm going to pronounce as accurately as possible, was another 102 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: Iranian founded in the United States. Here illegally and with 103 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: the time he was arrested, was carrying a loaded nine 104 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: millimeters pistol. Now, listen, I'm the last person in the 105 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: world who's going to attribute to some one, you know, 106 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: terroristic intent or or criminal intent simply based on the 107 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: fact they're carrying a gun. I carry a gun every day. 108 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: I have no criminal intent whatsoever. I carry a gun 109 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: for purely defensive purposes. And the fact that this guy's 110 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: carrying a gun, just like a lot of other individuals 111 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: in this country, doesn't necessarily mean anything. But the fact 112 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: that he's an Iranian one and two in the country 113 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: illegally and three carrying a firearm at the time, I 114 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 3: think bear some increased scrutiny without any diminution in the 115 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: respect for the Second Amendment. The guys, first of all, 116 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: not a citizen here illegally carrying a gun. And it 117 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: goes on and on. And there's several other people that 118 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: were found immediately after Operation Hammer, and this is a 119 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: total of eleven people. But then what gets really interesting 120 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: if you continue to look. Just a couple of days later, 121 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: it was announced that ICE had arrested over one hundred 122 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 3: Iranian nationals who were in the United States illegally, and 123 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: again there was a heightened focus, heightened attention on this 124 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: issue because of a concern about quote unquote sleeper cells 125 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: that may exist here constitute with Iranians who were sent 126 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: here during the long existing conflict between the United States 127 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 3: and Iran, and Iran being we know one of the 128 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 3: largest of not the largest state sponsor of terrorism is 129 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 3: going to revert to terroristic activities if in fact hostilities 130 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: break out between Iran and the United States. And they've 131 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: been hostilities of course for years. We bombed them last June. Yes, 132 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 3: but now we're engaged in a full fledged, ongoing conflict, 133 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: ongoing military conflict that will see what Congress does or 134 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: doesn't do, but kind of looks like a war. What's 135 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 3: Iran's response likely to be? How do they respond? They are, 136 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: by Middle Eastern standards, a very sophisticated military. This is 137 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: not a rock This is a whole different universe. They've 138 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: got three times or four times a number of people 139 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: somewhere in there. They've got a much bigger military. They've 140 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 3: got a much more sophisticated military. They've got a lot 141 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: of hardware that where they've been assisted by other countries, 142 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: presumably Russia and China or both, and they have a 143 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: much more sophisticated military than we ever had to deal 144 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 3: with a rock, so Iran has a more significant military. 145 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: At the same time, their ability to hit us here 146 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: in the United States they don't have, at least according 147 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 3: to the reports I've seen. It is one of the 148 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 3: reasons that President Trump justified the attack on them just 149 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: last night or this morning was to prevent them from 150 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 3: developing long range missile capabilities. Ballistic missile capabilities would allow 151 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 3: them to reach US here in the United States, so 152 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 3: they don't currently presumably have that capacity here now. So 153 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: if you're Iran, you're a major, if not the major 154 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: state sponsor of terrorism in the world, You've just been 155 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 3: attacked by the United States and you'd really like to 156 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: strike back. Well, you can do what they're doing, of course, 157 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 3: which is send missile strikes and or drone strikes against 158 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: Middle Eastern US facilities, as they've already done in Qatar 159 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: and apparently are attempting to do in Saudi Arabia and 160 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 3: other Middle Eastern countries, attacking those bases. We saw them 161 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: attack the headquarters of the Fifth Fleet located in Qatar 162 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: or in Bahrain. Excuse me, my country's mixed up. That 163 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: was in Bahrain, and a lot of US saw the 164 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: images of smoke rising from the military base. From the US, 165 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: we had reports that there were zero casualties from that. 166 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: At the same time you had on the ground reports 167 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 3: that I saw a report that said a twenty story 168 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: building had been demolished, had actually collapsed. Now that's not 169 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 3: those are the things. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. 170 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 3: It could have been an empty building. But you can 171 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: reach out if you're Iran and you've just been attacked 172 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 3: by the United States. Anyone's truck back at the United 173 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: States annuals struck back at Israel. Well, Israel's reachable. We 174 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: know that from all the rocket attacks and missile attacks 175 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: we've seen in the past. We know that from the 176 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: October seventh attack by Hamas, which was absolutely no question 177 00:12:55,240 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 3: acting as an Iran proxy when they committed those atrocities 178 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: and started the Gods of war. But if you're Iran, 179 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: wouldn't you also like to reach out and touch America 180 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: right here in the United States. If you don't have 181 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: a missile it can reach the United States. You don't 182 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: have a navy that can come here. And attack us 183 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: to even reach US, much less attack us here in 184 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: North America. What are your options? It seems to be 185 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: one of those options is terrorism, and terrorism is absolutely 186 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: a tool that Iron not only uses but apparently is 187 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 3: one of its favorite weapons to utilize against its enemy 188 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: and amaze, and they've been doing that for quite some time. 189 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 3: So what is the likelihood we have Iranians here in 190 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: the country in the United States who were sent here 191 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: and who knows how many years ago, we've had conflict 192 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: going with Iran since nineteen seventy nine. And not to 193 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: be melodramatic about it, but yes, a term that was 194 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: coined during the Cold War with Russia, a sleeper cell. 195 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: What's a sleeper cell? Well, obviously you send people in, 196 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: they assume a normal lifestyle, they get normal jobs, they 197 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: raise normal families. But in the meantime they are really 198 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: agents be foreign country who were here to commit violent 199 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: acts if and when they're ever activated by their handlers 200 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: back in their home country. What is the likelihood that 201 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: exists here in the United States. Well, a lot of 202 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 3: that has to do with how many of those people 203 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: total are even here. And listen, do I think a 204 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: lot of Iranians have come to the United States because 205 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: Iran sucks and it's terrible to live in Iran, and 206 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: it's an abusive culture, it's a totalitarian culture. Life of 207 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: the United States is a hell of a lot better. 208 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: And if you can get the hell out of Iran 209 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: and get to the United States, that's a good thing 210 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: to accomplish. And then when it come to the United 211 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: States and assimilate into our culture and be great Americans 212 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: and function in our society, contribute to our society, and 213 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: be wonderful people. There's no doubt in my mind, and 214 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: I'm not generalizing across the board, but depending on how 215 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: many those people from Iran have come to the US, 216 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: and particularly those people that came in illegally, and particularly 217 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: those people that came in illegally and were never properly screened, 218 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: particularly during the four years of the Biden administration, how 219 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: many of those people didn't come here to assimilate into 220 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: American culture. They came here to attack America. I do 221 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: not know, But there are some interesting numbers that I'll 222 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: go into after this break about the absolute numbers of 223 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 3: people who are not only here in the United States, 224 00:15:54,320 --> 00:16:02,239 Speaker 3: but here illegally and entered the country illegally, and notwithstanding 225 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: the fact they entered the country illegally and were detained 226 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: and or arrested by the Biden administration, were nonetheless released 227 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: into the country with very minimal screening. These numbers get 228 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: a little scary. That's what I'll talk about when we 229 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: come back. This is Guy Relford on The Gun Guy 230 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: Show on ninety three WIBC I Show on ninety three 231 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: WIBC SO talking about potential for terrorist acts here in 232 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: the United States as a result of, or at least 233 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: motivated by they coordinated attacks by the United States and 234 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: Israel against the Islamic Republic of Iran. And in trying 235 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: to quantify that risk, of course, we can't do that 236 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 3: with any certainty whatsoever. Because we had such open borders 237 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: for four years, we don't know how many people came 238 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: in that were totally undetected. But what we do know 239 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: is that over fifteen hundred Indians were actually caught entering 240 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 3: the country illegally, and the Biden administration actually turned seven 241 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty nine of them loose into the country. Now, 242 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: notwithstanding the fact that they entered the country illegally. Ah, 243 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 3: mind blowing, and I still It's hard for me to 244 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 3: wrap my head around because apparently Joe Biden and Kamala 245 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: Harris and the Democrats in power for those years literally 246 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 3: thought to themselves that whatever risk of allowing people into 247 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 3: the country illegally, whatever the risk of terrorism ie or 248 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 3: other rampant crime committed by people who were not vetted 249 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 3: were allowed to the country where and rapists or potential terrorists, 250 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 3: apparently whatever risk they posed was worth it because they'll 251 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 3: probably vote Democrat and keep those people in office. Mind 252 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 3: boggling to me. We know that's the explanation. We know 253 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: that was the motivation when President Trump at the State 254 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: of the Union just last week, you know, when he said, 255 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 3: I want you to stand if you think the first 256 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: priority of the United States government is to protect US 257 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 3: citizens and not illegal aliens, not illegals, and all the 258 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 3: Democrats have stayed seated. I was God, It's been talked 259 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 3: about a lot. You don't need to hear about it 260 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: again here on the Gung Guy Show. But what a 261 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 3: brilliant move by Trump. The guy can be a serious 262 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 3: knucklehead from time to time, but overall he can also 263 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 3: be a pretty damn good chess player. And to put 264 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 3: them in that position where they couldn't stand and support 265 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 3: him and therefore support Ice and therefore support the immigration 266 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 3: policies of the Trump administration. They had to sit and 267 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: admit that their first priority is not the safety of 268 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: US citizens. Where could that rubber hit the road? Where 269 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 3: could that be more applicable, more realistic, more relevant than now? 270 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 3: Looking at the potential terrorism risk associated with a number 271 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 3: of Iranians who were intentionally released into the country by 272 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 3: the Biden administration, and listen to these numbers. They went 273 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 3: up every year. They went up every year. Now to 274 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: the Biden Administration's policies get more permissive from year to year, 275 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 3: or were that many more Iranians trying to enter the 276 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 3: country illegally every year? We don't know. But in twenty 277 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 3: twenty one, twelve Iranian eg border crossers were released into 278 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: the into the US. Twelve If you're thinking, all right, well, 279 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: that's significant. If one of them is a terrorist, that's 280 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: a big deal, But twelve doesn't sound like a scary number. 281 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: It went up to forty and twenty twenty two, in 282 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, went up to two hundred and twenty nine, 283 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: and in twenty twenty four it went up to four 284 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: hundred and forty eight. We went from twelve in twenty 285 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: twenty one to four hundred and forty eight. And what 286 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: are we talking about? What's this number represent? These are 287 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: the number. This is the number each year of Iranians 288 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 3: who entered this country illegally, who were caught by the 289 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 3: Biden administration and nonetheless released into the country with by 290 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 3: all reports, extremely minimal vetting. It makes you wonder how 291 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 3: bad the people had to be the other half seven 292 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 3: hundred and whatnot who were caught entering the country illegally 293 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: as being Iranians and we're not allowed into the country, 294 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 3: how bad did they have to be? So there you go. 295 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 3: You have that number of people where I believe at 296 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 3: an increased risk of terrorism. Right here we know one 297 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 3: of the tools of terrorism that are on and its 298 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: proxies like to use is simply shooting people. That's what 299 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 3: they did in Israel on October seventh. Ninety percent of 300 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 3: the people killed on October seventh were shot. Well, you 301 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: come into the United States, you obtain firearms, you're part 302 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 3: of a sleeper cell, or just someone now motivated being 303 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: in the country illegally or legally. Either one you now 304 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 3: were simply motivated to attack the United States because of 305 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 3: the United States and Israel just attacked your homeland. How 306 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: could that look? And what we as citizens aspect, particularly 307 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: those of us and obviously if you listen to The 308 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: Gun Guy Show you're likely one as well, those of 309 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 3: us who have taken responsibility for their own safety and 310 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 3: security of ourselves and our families. What does that mean 311 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: to us? Will we be thinking about how should we 312 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 3: be motivated to be prepared for that. That's what we'll 313 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 3: get into for the rest of the show as well 314 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 3: as take your calls right now, I'm way late going 315 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 3: into this break. Let's take a break, come back for 316 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 3: a very short segment and wrap up our number one 317 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 3: of The Gun Guys Show on ninety three WYBC three 318 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: WYBC and welcome back on Guy Rilford on The Gun 319 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 3: Guys Show on ninety three WIBC. So, terrorism or just 320 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 3: a mass shooting in general, for instance, is our risks 321 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 3: that we face here in the United States every day? Now? 322 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: Does that mean we're paranoid about it? Does that mean 323 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 3: we lose sleep at night? Does that mean we walk 324 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 3: around with our handshaking? Of course not. And whether it's 325 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: someone who's angry at the attack on Israel conducted by 326 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: the United States and Israel here an attack on Iran 327 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 3: excuse me conducted by the United States and Israel here 328 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: over the last twenty four hours, or whether it someone 329 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 3: who's crazy, or whether it's someone who's otherwise or religious zealot, 330 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 3: or whatever their motivation might be. Are there things that 331 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 3: we should all be doing and things that we should 332 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: be aware of, And are there little tweaks the way 333 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: we live our lives to make this make it a 334 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 3: little more likely that we could survive such an event 335 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: if God forbid one happens to unfold where we might 336 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 3: be with our families or otherwise. Yeah, of course there 337 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: are there are things we should be talking to and listen. 338 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 3: Do I think one of the forms an act of 339 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: terrorism by someone motivated by Israel and the United States 340 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 3: attack on Iran? Whether could that be a mass shooting? Yeah? 341 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely again October seventh, ninety percent of the people who 342 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: died were shot. If Iran wants to reach out and 343 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 3: hurt us here at home, what a terroristic attack with guns? 344 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 3: And if they could get their hands on explosives, I'm 345 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 3: sure they'd love that too, But that involves them in 346 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: all likelihood using firearms, not unlike a typical mass shooting anyway. Well, 347 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: those are things we'll talk about, those things that we 348 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 3: need to be prepared for, and there are in fact 349 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: steps we can take in the event that situation unfolds. 350 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 3: Right now, we're at the end of our number one's time, 351 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 3: take a break. This is Guy Ralford on The Gun 352 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: Guy Show on ninety three WIBC. 353 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of 354 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: a free state, the right of the people to keep 355 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: in their arms shall not be infringed. This is the 356 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: Second Amendment, and this is the Gun. 357 00:24:52,440 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: Guy Boom boom boom boom bang bang bang bang boom boom, boom, 358 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: boom bang bang Guy rail for on ninety three WYBC. 359 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: And welcome back for hour number two of The Gun 360 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 3: Guy Show here on ninety three WIBC, and talking about 361 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: the events in Iran. Obviously have the nation's attention as 362 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: they should certainly had my attention since very early this morning. 363 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 3: And I was really proud of WIBC. You know, they 364 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: stuck with Fox News and they're broadcast for most of 365 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 3: the day really right up until my show, and I 366 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 3: wouldn't have been insulted at all if if the station 367 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: decided to stick with the Fox News just because people 368 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 3: are so closely following those events, and I'm one of 369 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 3: those people doing so. But as I talked about in 370 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: the first hour, one of my first thoughts is, you know, 371 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 3: what does this really mean for here at home? And 372 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 3: is there an increased risk to those of us here 373 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 3: because Iran may be motivated now or those people in 374 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 3: the United States who have sympathies or allegiances to Iran 375 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 3: to want to commit terrorist ACKs here. I think the 376 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 3: answer that has to be yes. And whatever level of 377 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 3: risk there was before yesterday of that happening, I think 378 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 3: it's got to be some percentage worse today now again 379 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 3: has made me just sit around and wring my hands 380 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: or run around waving my hands in the air saying 381 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 3: the sky is falling. It just to me makes me 382 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 3: want to think about how to be best prepared and 383 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 3: how to have thought through some potential events beforehand to 384 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 3: put me and my family in the best situation possible. 385 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: Were those very unfortunate events to unfold and listen, this 386 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 3: isn't any different really than what we live through every 387 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 3: day as Americans. With yes, there are mass shooters out there. 388 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 3: There are crazy people. I talked a lot, like just 389 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: last week about the fact that there are people motivated 390 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 3: to hurt us simply because they have mental issues, they 391 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 3: are struggling with mental illness, or they're motivated by other factors. 392 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 3: But they're folks who, yes, will show up at a 393 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: school and want to murder everybody there. Yes, there are 394 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 3: people that will show up to a church and want 395 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 3: to murder everyone there. There were people who will show 396 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: up to a shopping mall and want to murder everyone there. 397 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 3: I think we are at some incrementally greater risk today 398 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 3: because of the events in Iran, particularly given the huge 399 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 3: numbers of Iranians who are allowed to enter this country 400 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: illegally by the Biden administration. Half of those got at 401 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: the border from Iran entering this country illegally. We're allowed 402 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 3: to come on in, you know, like Joe Biden being 403 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 3: Bob Barker on prices. Right, come on, dad, come right 404 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: on into the United States. Not a problem. Are any 405 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 3: of those people terrasts. I don't know, but I think 406 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 3: there are some incremental risks there. So, like anything else, 407 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 3: it's just a matter of to me of being prepared 408 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: and part of that is and by the way, other 409 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: than taking some actions to be prepared and having the 410 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 3: resources available to me to at least optimize. No, there 411 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: are no guarantees. You know, I'm in most situations, I'm 412 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: one guy and just trying to do the best I 413 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: can to protect myself and my family. There are no 414 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 3: guarantees there. There was a guy carrying a gun at 415 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 3: the Greenwood Park Mall in twenty twenty two, who was 416 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: simply walking out of the restroom, was looking at his 417 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: phone walking out of the restroom, or excuse me, walking 418 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 3: into the restroom at Greenwood Park Mall as a mass 419 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: shooter was walking out of the restroom with an AR 420 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: fifteen in his hands. Guy was carrying a gun, was 421 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 3: looking at his phone, looked up, saw the muzzle of 422 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 3: an AR fifteen, and was shot immediately. Never had a 423 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: chance to reach for his gun. Was carrying a gun 424 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: some kind of superpower that makes you immune from being 425 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 3: an injured? Of course, not not even clothes. None of 426 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 3: us think that at the same time, is carrying a 427 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: gun optimize your ability or at least improve your chances 428 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 3: are surviving a deadly encounter? Well, Eli Dickon and the 429 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: Greenwood Park Mall won the gunfight, bad guy down. ELI survives. 430 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 3: Countless people in the Greenwood Park Mall survived as well 431 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 3: because ELI was prepared and equipped and had the mindset 432 00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: to engage that shooter and in the threat that's me 433 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 3: is a big part of it. Another part of it, 434 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 3: given what we're talking about here, is think like a 435 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 3: mass shooter, think like a terrorist. What does that mean? Well, 436 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 3: if I'm either just to say you're crazy, deranged mass 437 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 3: shooter like the guy in the Greenwood Park Mall, or 438 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 3: I'm religiously motivated, or I'm politically motivated because the United 439 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: States just attacked my home country, and I decide I'm 440 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: going to inflict maximum damage on the country I'm now 441 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: in because I'm here illegally. I'm from Iran, for instance, 442 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: and I'm decided whether it's under instructions from some handler 443 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 3: back in Iran because I was sent here on that 444 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 3: mission to begin with, or I'm just suddenly motivated because 445 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: this country attacked my home country or on and now 446 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 3: I want to inflict maximum damage on the people here 447 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 3: in the United States. What are my options? What is 448 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 3: the best way for me to do that? Now you 449 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: can do something pretty sophisticated and try to affect the 450 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 3: water supply, try to blow up an oil refinery, try 451 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 3: to affect the electrical grid. There are any numbers of 452 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 3: things that an individual can potentially do that can have 453 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 3: devastating effects, But in terms of what most people have 454 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 3: the capacity to do, most people have the opportunity to do. 455 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 3: Going to some public place where there are a lot 456 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 3: of people and shooting as many of them as possible 457 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 3: is probably one of the most realistic things they can pursue. 458 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 3: So when I said think like a terrorist or think 459 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 3: like a mass shooter, what am I talking about? Well, 460 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 3: where are those places likely to be attacked by someone 461 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 3: motivated to inflict harm on us here in America because 462 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 3: they're pissed off about the Iranian conflict that's unfolding as 463 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: we speak. Well, those places where there are a lot 464 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 3: of people are those shopping malls, Yes, events, Sure, you 465 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 3: may be upset because you practice a different religion than 466 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: the majority of people here in the United States. So 467 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 3: you would just as soon if we're going to shoot 468 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 3: as many people as possible, go where people are practicing 469 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 3: that religion, which are fundamentally opposed to church. And I've 470 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 3: thought this for years. My wife and I have talked 471 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 3: a lot about it. You know, I am hyper aware 472 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 3: when we go to church. We go to church every 473 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 3: time we possibly can, not quite every Sunday. We have 474 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 3: a disabled daughter that sometimes is a little tough to 475 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 3: get there, but we go whenever we can, and whenever 476 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 3: we go, which is every opportunity. I'm hyper aware. We 477 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 3: sit specifically in a location where I can see the 478 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 3: comings and goings of people in the sanctuary, and where 479 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: I have good shooting angles, and where I I have 480 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 3: the best possible chance of helping my family survive and 481 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 3: get the hell out of there, and if necessary, neutralize 482 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 3: a threat based on the infrastructure of that particular church. 483 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 3: And that's not paranoid. That's not living in fear. We 484 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 3: could accuse of that all the time as gun owners. 485 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 3: It's just the opposite. I'm not sitting there wringing my 486 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: hands afraid. I'm sitting there thinking, Here's what I'm going 487 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 3: to do if this happens. Here's what I'm going to 488 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 3: do if that happens. We've researched where all the exits are, 489 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: We've looked at where a bad guy's likely to come in. 490 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 3: We've looked at where the safest shooting angles are to 491 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,959 Speaker 3: end a threat and not endanger other people who are 492 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 3: there to worship God with us. That's just a mindset. 493 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: That's what a lot of us do. A lot of 494 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 3: us do every day. Where do you sit in the restaurant? 495 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 3: Do you find the all the exits available to you 496 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: when you're in a particular location. Are you watching the 497 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: circumstances around you? Are you prepared equipped? And do you 498 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 3: have the mindset to engage a threat if one unfold? 499 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 3: Those are things to think about. Those are things to 500 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 3: equip yourself for. There are things to train to do 501 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,959 Speaker 3: long before they ever are in full That's true every day. 502 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 3: Is there some increased urgency or need today? I think so. 503 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 3: That's not being paranoid, that's just recognizing a political reality. 504 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: We'll talk more about that. If you want to give 505 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 3: us a call join the discussion, please do three one seven, two, 506 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 3: three nine, ninety three ninety three for the quarter aur 507 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 3: we'll take a break, we'll come back and continue the 508 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: discussion here on the Gun Guy Show on ninety three WIBC. 509 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 3: And we're talking about some incremental increase risk of terrorism 510 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 3: here in the United States, given the events going on 511 00:34:54,239 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 3: right now in Iran, and whatever that incremental risk might be, 512 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 3: whatever that elevated risk might be beyond what it was baseline, 513 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you certainly, but I think there's certainly 514 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 3: an increased risk. And that being so, what does that 515 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 3: really mean for those of us who are just intent 516 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 3: on going on and lead living our lives, doing our jobs, 517 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 3: loving our families, and and doing what we do every day. Well, 518 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 3: I think there's a number of elements to this, and 519 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 3: none of this changes because of the events going on 520 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 3: right now in Iran, except perhaps add some level of 521 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 3: urgency to it. An urgency may not even be the 522 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 3: right word. It may increase the likelihood to some degree. 523 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 3: Whatever that degree might be might be one percent, might 524 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 3: be ten percent, might be fifty percent. I couldn't I 525 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 3: couldn't quantify that for you, but I can tell you 526 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 3: there's some increased level of risk. So what does that 527 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 3: mean That I mean we again live our lives in fear, 528 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: of course, not just the opposite. It means we think 529 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,439 Speaker 3: a little bit about preparation. What do I mean by preparation, Well, 530 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 3: one is simply developing the mindset necessary to one I'm 531 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 3: going to avoid the risks I possibly can. I do 532 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 3: not have a hero complex. I do not carry a 533 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 3: gun because I have some desire to jump into a 534 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 3: situation that I'm not already involved in so as to 535 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 3: be a hero. I would like to think that I 536 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 3: would put myself in harm's way to protect innocent others 537 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 3: around me, just as we've seen heroic people do, like 538 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 3: my friend and client, Eli Dicken, and the Greenwood Park 539 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 3: Mall that I mentioned earlier. But that's not why I 540 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 3: carry a gun. I carry a gun as a tool 541 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 3: of last resort to protect myself from the people that 542 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 3: I love, primarily, and also in other innocent people around 543 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 3: me if the necessity arises. I don't do it to 544 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 3: win arguments. I don't do it to be a tough guy. 545 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 3: I don't do it to intimidate none of that. I 546 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 3: do it as a tool of last resort to protect 547 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 3: innocent life, including my own of my family's, primarily. So okay, Well, 548 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 3: carrying a gun is part of it, is that, all 549 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 3: of it? Well, of course, not a lot of it's 550 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 3: thinking ahead, A lot of it's having that mindset to 551 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 3: be prepared to be certainly spending some time and attention 552 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 3: surveying the circumstances around you, what we call situational awareness 553 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 3: and listen. I've gone through a lot of great training 554 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 3: around the country. Was some of the best training I 555 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 3: did many many years ago with gun Site and and 556 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 3: my friend Can Campbell, former Boone County Sheriffs now the 557 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 3: CEO of Gunsight, one of the premiere firearms training facilities 558 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 3: in the world, certainly for civilians, I think best in 559 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 3: the world that I'm aware of. They're out in Paulden, Arizona. 560 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 3: But the founder of gun Side, Colonel Jeff Cooper, developed 561 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 3: the color code system. When we talk about situational awareness, 562 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 3: and he talked about how at any given point in time, 563 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 3: you're in some kind of a condition. That is the 564 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 3: condition of how much you're paying attention to your surroundings, 565 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 3: in your circumstances, how aware of the situation you're in. 566 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 3: You are again where the term situational awareness came from. 567 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 3: And there's condition white. What's conditioned white? Well, that's where 568 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 3: you're just oblivious. You got your face buried in your phone, 569 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 3: you're arguing with your significant other, you're staring at the 570 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 3: pretty lady walking by in a short skirt, whatever it is, 571 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 3: you're oblivious, You're not paying attention. You have no idea 572 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: going on around you. Someone could walk up in front 573 00:38:55,160 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 3: of you, straight to your face and swinging acts you, 574 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 3: and you're not even going to notice until the blade 575 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 3: hits you. Your oblivious condition white. And part of the 576 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 3: goal of anybody who is trying to optimize their chances 577 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 3: of survival as well as their family survival, not just survival, 578 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 3: but safety in general, is to avoid ever being in 579 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 3: condition oblivious, condition white. And then you go to condition yellow. 580 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 3: What's condition yellow? It's just paying attention, It's just being 581 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 3: aware of the circumstances around you. If you're taking the 582 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 3: trash out at eleven o'clock at night because the trash 583 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 3: guys coming early the next morning, are you looking around 584 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 3: you're paying attention, or you got your head down thinking 585 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,479 Speaker 3: about how cold it is because you walked outside nothing 586 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 3: but your robe take the trash out? Are you simply 587 00:39:51,200 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 3: looking around? Are you paying attention and then paying attention? 588 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 3: Generally considered condition yellow, And by the way, you see 589 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 3: different versions of this and what people call orange versus 590 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 3: yellow and whatnot. But the point is that you always 591 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 3: try to keep to maintain at least a level of 592 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 3: awareness where you're paying attention to your circumstances. Does that 593 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 3: awareness of your circumstances and your surroundings need to be 594 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 3: influenced by where you are at the time. You know what, 595 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 3: if I'm behind locked doors with a dog at my 596 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 3: side and a gun on the nightstand and a security 597 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 3: system in my house, then I and listen, you got 598 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 3: to sleep sometime, right, ultimate example of condition white? Are 599 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:57,720 Speaker 3: you oblivious? Well, yeah, you're asleep. Should you have thought 600 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 3: about and prepared in some way to be able to 601 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 3: get broken out of condition white and be aware of 602 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 3: a potential risk when it unfolds? Well, yeah, and that's 603 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 3: when alarms come in and a trusty four legged friend 604 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 3: that sleeps next to the bed that can help a 605 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 3: lot in that circumstance. Of course, locking the door to 606 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 3: where somebody's got to make some noise to get in. Yeah, 607 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 3: you want to break yourself out of that oblivious state 608 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 3: as soon as possible, and you've given some thought to that, 609 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 3: you're prepared for that. But then the next level above 610 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 3: simply paying attention. A lot of people call a situation yellow, 611 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 3: some people call it orange. Is where you've identified a 612 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 3: potential threat, you're walking down the street. Are three people 613 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 3: walking towards you that just don't look right. They look 614 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,280 Speaker 3: like there could be you know, kids out looking for trouble, 615 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 3: look like a potential mugger, someone who's paying a little 616 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 3: bit too much attention to you, someone who's not dressed 617 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 3: appropriately given the weather, in the circumstances. Whatever it might be, 618 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 3: there's someone that you're just keeping an eye on to think, 619 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 3: you know what, that doesn't look right to me? And 620 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,760 Speaker 3: trust your spidy senses on that man. Trust your gut feelings, 621 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 3: trust your intuitions on this. It doesn't mean you start shooting. 622 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you pull your gun, It doesn't mean 623 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 3: you do anything extreme. It just means you're paying extra 624 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 3: attention and you start developing a plan. For instance, those 625 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 3: three people walking towards you that just don't look quite right, 626 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 3: who may be paying a little bit too much attention 627 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 3: to you, Does it make sense you just cross the street, 628 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 3: just makes sense. Just walk on in the building that 629 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 3: you happen to be passed, and then walk into the business. 630 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 3: You know what might be a good time step in 631 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 3: here and buy a diet coke. At the same time, 632 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 3: you start developing a plan. You know, if they do this, 633 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 3: I'm going to do that. Someone's walking at you, staring 634 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 3: at you, muttering something incomprehensible, and you can't see their hands. 635 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 3: All right, I have no opportunity to cross the street 636 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 3: or walk into a business or whatever it might be. 637 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 3: So what I'm what am I going to do? I'm 638 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 3: gonna start developing a plan. I see a weapon manifest itself, 639 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 3: all right, now, I'm gonna pull my weapon and act accordingly. 640 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 3: You start developing a plan, a contingency plan. If this, 641 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 3: then that, if they do this, I'm doing that, and 642 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 3: then condition red is where the threat materializes. It's real, 643 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 3: it's going down. The balloon has gone up. Now I'm 644 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 3: going to do what I decided I was going to 645 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 3: do while I was developing my plan. Does that mean 646 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 3: pulling my guns? That mean taking a shot, Depending on 647 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 3: the circumstances, what's legal under the circumstances, what's justified, what's necessary? 648 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 3: Of course that's exactly what it means. And and that 649 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 3: level of awareness, that level of that situational awareness that 650 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 3: you're in. Should that change based on where you are? 651 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 3: Of course it should, of course hundred percent. You're at church. 652 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 3: I think that takes a heightened level of awareness to 653 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 3: be at church. Why because church TETs you're at the mall. Yes. Absolutely. 654 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 3: There are street criminals that commit crimes at malls. There 655 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 3: are gang members that commit crimes at malls. And if 656 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 3: you're a bad guy and a terrorist or just a 657 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 3: crazy person looking to commit a mass shooting, a mall 658 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 3: is a place to do it. Why do we know 659 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 3: that because it's happened, and it's happened repeatedly. You're in any 660 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 3: place where large groups of people are gathering, does it 661 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 3: make sense to elevate your level of situational wares? Of 662 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,479 Speaker 3: course it does. Should you be prepared for that? Yes? 663 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,720 Speaker 3: Do I like to go where there are large groups 664 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 3: of people and I'm not able to carry my firearm? 665 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 3: Oh hell no. Doesn't mean because I think I'm invincible 666 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 3: because I'm carrying my guns wherever I might be. I'm 667 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 3: I'm in a movie theater, I'm carrying my gun, and 668 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 3: six guys walk in with AK forty sevens. I'm not 669 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 3: gonna say, well, I've trained for this all my life. 670 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to stand up and and blow these six 671 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:06,240 Speaker 3: guys away with my hand. Of course, not just because 672 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 3: you're a hammere doesn't mean everything's a nail. No, it's 673 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 3: get out of dodge, get on the ground, get to 674 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 3: an exit. Why, having identified that exit beforehand makes all 675 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:15,800 Speaker 3: the sense. 676 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 2: In the world. 677 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 3: You win every gunfight, or i'll rephrase that, you survive 678 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 3: every gunfight that you don't participate in. You survive every 679 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 3: gunfight that you don't participate in. No shame in that. 680 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 3: If the odds are against you, if you have no 681 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 3: legitimate means or likelihood of prevailing, then don't participate. Get 682 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 3: out of dodge, exit stage left. But having thought about that, 683 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,959 Speaker 3: having identified the exits, having talked to your family about that, 684 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 3: not in an alarmist way. You're not worried, you're not scared, 685 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 3: you're not even concerned. You're just aware. You're prepared, You're 686 00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 3: developed that mindset beyond mindset beyond things like simply carrying 687 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 3: a gun. Do I carry us Bear magazine. Yes, we'll 688 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 3: talk a little bit about that. Actually when we come back. 689 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 3: I think there are some myths out there or some 690 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 3: some things that are quote unquote conventional wisdom on that point. 691 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 3: I'd like to winder I don't think I've ever talked 692 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 3: about this here on the Gun Show. Gun Guy show. 693 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 3: We will do that. In fact, when we come back 694 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 3: right now with the botom of the hour, we're taking 695 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 3: a break, says Guy Ralford on The Gun Guy Show 696 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:34,959 Speaker 3: on ninety three WIBC, second. 697 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: To nine on this Second Amendment in this is the 698 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: Gun Guy with Guy Ralford WYVC. 699 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 3: And welcome back I Guy Ralford on The Gun Guy 700 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 3: Show on ninety three WIBC. So you're developing the mindset, 701 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 3: or you have the mindset be able to defend yourself 702 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 3: and your family, particularly in these times of perhaps some 703 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 3: increased level of threat. But you never know, I mean, 704 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 3: you never know when those things are gonna unfold. I 705 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 3: mean I always completely laugh. You know, those people who 706 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,359 Speaker 3: don't support Second Amendment rights so they feel no need 707 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 3: to exercise their Second Amendment rights, And there are a 708 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 3: lot of those people out there, And hey, I respect 709 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 3: everybody's decision. I don't try to force gun ownership or 710 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 3: carrying a gun, possessing a gun on anybody. Everybody gets 711 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 3: to make their own decision. That's what makes us a 712 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 3: great country. But those people say, you know what, if 713 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 3: you're going to a bunch of places where guns are necessary, 714 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 3: you must be going to the wrong places or people 715 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 3: say I see this on social media all the time, 716 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,720 Speaker 3: or I see people in the media saying this. Well, 717 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 3: I don't go in anywhere where I would ever need 718 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 3: a gun. And because I don't go to those places, 719 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 3: then by definition, I don't need to worry about having 720 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 3: the capacity to defend myself. And all you paranoid people 721 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 3: walking around with guns or just nuts and or you're 722 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 3: going to dangerous places where you should never go to 723 00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 3: begin with. And I laugh out loud at that and say, 724 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 3: hold on, look where mass shootings have occurred. Movie theaters. 725 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 3: You go to a nice suburban movie theater. Are you thinking, well, 726 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,439 Speaker 3: this is the place I better carry might go? Well, yeah, 727 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 3: I do, yes, Why because movie theaters are potential targets. 728 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 3: That's where a bunch of people are all in one place. 729 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 3: You want to walk in and murder a bunch of 730 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 3: people all together at the same time. You want to 731 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 3: get it where people are masked together. Is a movie 732 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 3: theater one of those places? Yes, it's church, one of 733 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 3: those places. I don't go anywhere where I would need 734 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 3: to carry a gun. Church go to church? Now, do not? 735 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 3: Even nine point ninety ninety nine percent of people go 736 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 3: to church, And there are one hundred percent safe, and 737 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 3: they have a great time, and they worship God and 738 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 3: and and and they and they sing God's praises and 739 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 3: they celebrate their faith. Yes, of course, but you're also 740 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 3: naive if you don't think that that place is a 741 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 3: potential target simply because of how you worship or who 742 00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 3: you worship, or where you have to be worshiping. And 743 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 3: so I don't have a crystal ball that tells me 744 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 3: when I might need to defend myself. And you don't 745 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 3: need to be walking down a dark alley in a 746 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 3: bad part of town to be in a place where 747 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 3: you might need to have the capacity to defend yourself. 748 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 3: Eli Dickon and the Greenwood Park Mall having a dinner 749 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 3: with his girlfriend in the food court, did not think 750 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 3: of the Greenwood Park Mall as a place where he 751 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 3: was necessarily going to have to defend himself. But that's 752 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 3: where evil chose to rear its ugly head. That's what happens. 753 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,359 Speaker 3: That's not paranoid. You're not living your life in fear 754 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 3: to recognize that is a simple truth, simple unavoidable, indisputable truth. 755 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,800 Speaker 3: That's what happens now. People are gunned down and shot 756 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 3: in churches and malls and movie theaters and places where 757 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,359 Speaker 3: you ought to and have every right to feel safe 758 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 3: and generally are always going to be. But the exceptions occur, 759 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 3: and that's what a lot of us want to prepare for, 760 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,919 Speaker 3: not just with the equipment that we carry every day, 761 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 3: but with our mindset. And listen, a lot of folks 762 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 3: out there have again, as where I was talking about 763 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 3: conventional wisdom a little bit, folks will tell you about 764 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 3: the rule of threes. You ever heard this one, and listen, 765 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 3: I've discussed this a lot, and there can be and 766 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,839 Speaker 3: is some truth to it, But people, I think use 767 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 3: it a little bit too much in lockstep and believe 768 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 3: that it doesn't have the number of exceptions that it does. 769 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 3: But the rule of threes go something like this that 770 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 3: virtually every self defense shooting happens in three feet or less, 771 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 3: happens in three seconds or less and involves three or 772 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 3: less shots. And there certainly are some data out there 773 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,320 Speaker 3: to support that idea, but most of that data comes 774 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 3: from police action shootings. In fact, that's where a lot 775 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 3: of this came from, from the police and their use 776 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 3: of deadly force and a defensive shooting. And listen, do 777 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 3: I think the majority of self defense shootings fall within 778 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 3: that category. Yeah. I saw one study done whether they 779 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 3: looked at the self defense shootings that were being reported 780 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 3: in the Armed Citizen pages of the NRA magazine, The 781 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 3: First Freedom, And if you're a member of NRA, if 782 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,320 Speaker 3: you get that magazine, on the first couple of pages, 783 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,959 Speaker 3: there's always as called the Armed Citizen, and there would 784 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 3: be various anecdotes of people using their gun in self defense. 785 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 3: And some researcher I just kind of a cool idea, 786 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 3: went and compiled as many of those as they could, 787 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 3: and then they researched them. They went back and found 788 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 3: as much information as they could, whether it's from news 789 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 3: reports or police reports, or they got whatever additional information 790 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 3: they could to look to get the kind of specifics 791 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,479 Speaker 3: that would allow us to draw some conclusions about self 792 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 3: defense shootings. And they got those from the incidents described 793 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 3: in the Armed Citizen pages of the NRA magazine, and 794 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 3: I think it's where NRA gets those too. They just 795 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 3: get them from news reports. But they did as much 796 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 3: follow up as they could and they said, hey, it 797 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 3: supports the idea of the rule of threes. In fact, 798 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 3: it was the most common distance for self defense shooting 799 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,919 Speaker 3: was something like just beyond arm's reach. The average number 800 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,319 Speaker 3: of shots with something like one point seven is less 801 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 3: than two and which supports the idea that it's over 802 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 3: very quickly. But at the same time, a lot of 803 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 3: that date also comes from police action shootings, and there's 804 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 3: a fundamental difference, I think in the shootings that the 805 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 3: police are involved in, or at least there's a significant 806 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,080 Speaker 3: difference in the shootings of police are involved in and 807 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,840 Speaker 3: the police that private citizens are involved in. First of all, police, 808 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 3: it certainly happens that a police officer is by himself 809 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:12,320 Speaker 3: or herself when they have the need and the justification 810 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,399 Speaker 3: to use deadly for but an awful lot of times 811 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 3: there's more than one officer involved. Only one officer may 812 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 3: pull the trigger, but there's more than one officer involved, 813 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 3: And an officer's job is also to be out looking 814 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 3: for threats, for actively engaging threats. A lot of times 815 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 3: when you're a private citizen, it's a threat coming after you. 816 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,400 Speaker 3: And when that's the situation, when you're the perceived prey 817 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,919 Speaker 3: rather than the predator, a lot of times you've got 818 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,879 Speaker 3: more than one bad guy as opposed to more than 819 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 3: one police officer trying to apprehend one particular bad guy. 820 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,399 Speaker 3: So I'm at home and I have a home invasion. Well, 821 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 3: there's a reason they call them home invasions because they 822 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,880 Speaker 3: don't happen with just one bad guy. A guy breaking in, 823 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 3: that's a that that that is certainly a break in, 824 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 3: wouldn't necessarily call it a home invasion because the term 825 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 3: connotes the idea that there are multiple people who are 826 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 3: invading your home. Am I going to use only three 827 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,320 Speaker 3: shots in that circumstance? I'd like to think, Yeah, boom, 828 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 3: boom boom, three bad guys, three shots threats over reality 829 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 3: doesn't work that way. First of all, depending on the 830 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 3: firearm that you're using. Now, I have a suppressed ar 831 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 3: SBR next to my bed. That's what my gun of 832 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 3: choice in my home. It's a short barreled rifle. It's suppressed, 833 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 3: and I have a more capacity. It's suppressed, so I 834 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 3: don't lose what little hearing I have left by defending 835 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 3: myself in my home inside indoors with a rifle. But 836 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 3: in a lot of circum stances out in public, you're 837 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 3: dealing with handguns. Handguns are notoriously bad fight stoppers. You 838 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 3: get the keyboard rambos out there that are all over 839 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 3: the social media pages saying well, if you need more 840 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 3: than six shots to handle a threat, then you just 841 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 3: need more time at the range. No, it was not 842 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 3: the way that works. One of the greatest examples of marksmanship. 843 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 3: I'll go back to Eli Dickon and the Greenwood Park Mall. 844 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 3: One of the greatest examples of marksmanship in a civilian 845 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 3: self defense shooting. In this case, the defensive third persons 846 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 3: other people in the mall. It was Eli in the 847 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 3: Greenwood Park Mall. He engaged that threat from forty three 848 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 3: yards away. Why because it was necessary for him to 849 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 3: do so. The bad guy was murdering people. He had 850 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 3: just shot and killed three people. When Eli engaged the threat, 851 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 3: he put himself in harms way. He engaged the threats 852 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 3: starting from forty three yards away. He took four shots 853 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 3: from forty three yards away. He hit two of them. Shots. 854 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 3: Under those circumstances with screaming bystanders running past your site, 855 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 3: picture having to actually stop and pause and raise your 856 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 3: muzzle to let screaming people run by from forty three 857 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 3: yards away at a moving target, shooting people that they 858 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,319 Speaker 3: are fifteen to hit two out of four from forty 859 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 3: three yards damn fine, but that ain't in the threat. See, 860 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 3: handguns are notoriously bad fight stoppers. People have this idea 861 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 3: of outloads from the movies. I don't know whether it's 862 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 3: just a misunderstanding of ballistics. I'm not sure where it gets. 863 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 3: But when people say, oh, one shot, one kill, well 864 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 3: I a high velocity rifle, Yeah you can if you 865 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 3: with marksmanship, you ought to be older. All on one shot, 866 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 3: one kill. That doesn't necessarily happen in self defense scenarios 867 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 3: because handguns in particular are bad fight stoppers. ELI hit 868 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 3: the guy twice from forty three yards away. That did 869 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 3: not end the fight. ELI closed to about twenty five 870 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:04,240 Speaker 3: yards and from a standing position, then took four more shots, 871 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,399 Speaker 3: hit the guy four times. Bad guy still moving, Bad 872 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,319 Speaker 3: guy still has a rifle in his hands. He's been 873 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,239 Speaker 3: hit six times at this point. Is it likely that 874 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 3: he's going to die at some point after getting hit 875 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 3: with six rounds of nine milimeters? Depending on where he 876 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 3: was hit with those first six, you could say there's 877 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 3: a substantial likelihood of that. Could he continue to be 878 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 3: a bad guy for some appreciable amount of time before 879 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 3: he died? Or before he was completely incapacitated. Yes, therefore 880 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 3: the fight continued. ELI then closed to about twenty five 881 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:43,280 Speaker 3: feet and took to the last two shots and into 882 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 3: the fight. ELI took ten shots of nine millimeter hit eight, 883 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 3: which is incredible exceptional marksmanship under anybody's standard, certainly under mine, 884 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 3: let me tell you. And he still needed ten rounds 885 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 3: to end the fight. So, and just talking about a 886 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,840 Speaker 3: little bit of preparation, does that include in my mind 887 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 3: most more often than not, depending on what I'm wearing, 888 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 3: almost always carrying extra magazine. 889 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 890 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 3: Does that mean I'm gonna use twenty four thirty four 891 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 3: shots that I'm carrying around that much ammunition and ain't 892 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 3: giving self defense? No, not likely. But you know, an 893 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 3: instructor of mine twenty five years ago well looked at 894 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 3: me and he said, guy, you know, no one ever 895 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 3: lost a gunfight because he had too much ammunition. I 896 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 3: kind of like, I kind of like the logic of that. 897 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 3: Let's take a break here, we'll come back. We'll wrap 898 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 3: this up and discuss a little bit more about mindset 899 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 3: and preparation given the threats that we're all facing out 900 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 3: there today. This is Guy Ralford on the gun. Guy 901 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 3: show on ninety three WIBC, the. 902 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 1: Show about gun rights and gun safety and responsible gun ownership. 903 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:09,400 Speaker 1: This is the Gun Guy with Guy Relford on WYPC. 904 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 3: And welcome back. I'm Guy Ralford on The Gun Guy 905 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 3: Show on ninety three WIBC, talking about being prepared, and again, 906 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 3: I think we are living today under a little bit 907 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 3: more risk of domestic terrorism than we were yesterday. We 908 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 3: were certainly under a risk yesterday as well. I think 909 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 3: that risk incrementally went up just a bit with the 910 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 3: events going on in Iran right now. And I've talked 911 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,120 Speaker 3: a lot about that preparation. Hell I could sit here 912 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 3: and we could talk for days and certainly hours and 913 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 3: hours and hours well beyond the capacity of a two 914 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 3: hour radio show. But the last point all rays and 915 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 3: a lot of times people don't think about this as well. 916 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 3: You know, people have great guns and great gear and 917 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 3: ammunition and holsters and body armor and who knows what, 918 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 3: but they're not thinking about necessarily the first aid component. 919 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 3: And I've told people for a long time time that 920 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 3: what they need is to be able to treat injuries 921 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 3: as well, be able to stop the bleed, and to 922 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 3: have an individual first aid kit to be able to 923 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 3: treat injuries in the field critically important. I keep an 924 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 3: I fact individual first aid kit in my car all 925 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 3: the time and to know how to use a tourniquet. 926 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 3: Do you know the basic rules of treating traumatic injury? 927 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 3: Things like tourniquet the limbs, pack the junction, seal the chest. 928 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 3: If you don't know what that means, look that up 929 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 3: and learn how to do it. You can have that 930 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 3: with you. You can have a tourniquet with you wherever you 931 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,360 Speaker 3: go to certainly have one in your vehicle. I have 932 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 3: multiple I FACTX and tourniquets in my vehicle and I 933 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,920 Speaker 3: know how to use them. I've taken that training and 934 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 3: as something we should all do. If you know how 935 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 3: to put holes in people, you ought to be able 936 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 3: to know how to pack those holes and prevent bleeding 937 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 3: just as well. That's one thing I'll leave you with. 938 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 3: This is Guy Ralford on The Gun Guy Show on 939 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 3: ninety three WIBC.