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Speaker 1: Lie from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 2: So if you want to release the Epstein files, release

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Speaker 2: the Epstein files.

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Speaker 3: Not gonna anger me.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna make guys like me outrageously happy who have

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Speaker 2: been calling for the release of the Epstein files the

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Speaker 3: The real question is why is president changed his mind?

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Speaker 2: Well, Tony, you see, it's all just a game of

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Speaker 2: four D chess that the President has been playing with

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Speaker 2: these stupid Democrats and you fell for it.

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Speaker 3: HAA.

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Speaker 2: Whatever anybody needs to tell themselves in order to go

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Speaker 2: to sleep at night, That's.

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Speaker 3: Not what happened. Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, Good to

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Speaker 3: be with you.

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Speaker 2: Find everything going on at Tony katz dot com, live

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Speaker 2: streaming on the youtubes, on Twitter X, on Facebook, Tony

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Speaker 2: Kats Rady on Facebook, Tony Katz on Twitter x and

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Speaker 2: of course Tony kats YouTube dot com, slash, Tony Katz

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Speaker 2: on the youtubes. It wasn't for D chess. That just

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Speaker 2: isn't real, just wasn't. The President made a mistake.

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Speaker 3: That is all. That is all it is.

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Speaker 2: And now he seems to be correct in course with

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Speaker 2: conversations that include we need investigations to Democrats, are in

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Speaker 2: the epsteam files, fine by me.

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Speaker 3: I want to know.

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Speaker 2: What's in the files, and I want to know who

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Speaker 2: was on the island, of course, Jeffrey Epstein. The do

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Speaker 3: Life, shod molesting scumbag.

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Speaker 2: He had the island, and people flew to the island

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Speaker 2: his friends. That's what happened. Don't tell me it's nothing,

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Speaker 2: as President Trump did. Hey, this isn't a big deal.

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Speaker 3: He's a pedophile.

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Speaker 2: If you want to play politics with the lives of children,

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Speaker 2: those people are more than welcome to Those are the

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Speaker 2: But it is clear that the Democratic Party is only

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Speaker 3: Everywhere you go, Trump's hiding.

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Speaker 2: Because Trump's in the the Epstein files. My god, everybody's

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Speaker 2: in the Epstein files. Everybody knows. They knew each other,

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Speaker 2: It was a very rare, bad political instinct from President Trump.

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Speaker 3: It's still true. He was just wrong, that's all.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't, as I see it, trying to protect himself.

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Speaker 2: Answers to the questions. These are the only things that matter.

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Speaker 2: What Larry Summers is somehow immune because he's a Democrat.

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Speaker 3: We need to make this happen.

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Speaker 2: Social records show that these men and many others spent

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Speaker 2: It has to be understood that you're not having this

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Speaker 3: We actually believe in law and order.

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Speaker 2: And at that moment, they can then ask themselves, well,

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Speaker 2: It's a really rare moment when you could do the

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Speaker 1: That is a.

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Speaker 3: Two for right there.

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Speaker 2: That is a win win, and I would like for

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Speaker 3: That would be great.

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Speaker 2: In a very not much talked about story and in

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Speaker 2: And it took Donald Trump a couple of times to

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Speaker 2: And it's only a two because that's what a two

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: But then he hit it. He hit it out of

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Speaker 2: He might as well just called his shot Marjorie Trader Green.

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Speaker 2: It is disqualifying to go on a show like that,

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Speaker 4: Well, Dana, thank you for having me on. And that

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Speaker 2: That's a sobering moments right there. They may have to

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Speaker 4: Anyway, continue and I think that's incredibly important, and I

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Speaker 2: You won't get me to disagree that there's a lot

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Speaker 4: The most hurtful thing he said, which is absolutely untrue,

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Speaker 2: all swatting is this? It's ugly and there needs to

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Speaker 2: be serious jail time for swatting, no matter whom it is.

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Speaker 3: Against.

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Speaker 2: Swatting is when you call the police and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: something horrible is happening at Marjorie Taylor Green's house, and no,

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Speaker 2: this violent thing is happening. Oh git, he's attacking this person.

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Speaker 2: This person's being attacked, and the police show up ready,

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Speaker 2: they show up, absolutely ready, ready to go, but.

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Speaker 3: Nothing's actually happening. The whole thing was made up.

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Speaker 2: There was a lie.

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Speaker 3: It happened to a state senator in Indiana, and all.

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Speaker 2: Part of believes to be part of redistricting, and I

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Speaker 2: will I will get to that story. If she's been swatted,

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Speaker 2: that is absolutely obscene.

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 2: It could be because she's someone who has wanted the

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Speaker 2: release of the Epstein files, and maybe that annoyed President Trump.

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Speaker 3: It's I guess it's a question of how she.

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Speaker 2: Was demanding thing, because I've demanded the release of the

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Speaker 2: Epstein files, which now Trump is like to release the files.

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Speaker 2: But this whole thing about this toxicity and calling me

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Speaker 2: a trader.

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Speaker 3: As Marjorie Taylor Green said it, that's what puts a

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Speaker 3: mark on me.

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Speaker 2: Wait, are you making the argument that the toxicity is

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Speaker 2: only coming in one direction? What do you think happened?

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Speaker 2: What do you think is the reason for this?

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, it has all come down to the Epstein files,

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Speaker 4: and that is shocking. And you know, I I stand

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Speaker 4: with these women. I stand with rape victims. I stand

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Speaker 4: with children who are in terrible sex abuse situations, and

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Speaker 4: I stand with survivors of trafficking and those that are

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Speaker 4: trapped in sex trafficking. And I will not apologize for that.

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Speaker 4: I believe the country deserves transparency in these files. And

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Speaker 4: I don't believe that rich, powerful people should be protected

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Speaker 4: if they have done anything wrong.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe rich powerful people should be protected either,

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Speaker 2: not at all. You think it all comes down to

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Speaker 2: the Epstein files, Well, maybe it does, but I think

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Speaker 2: there's a bigger question here, Marjorie Taylor Green, why are

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Speaker 2: you going on CNN to have this conversation. Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 2: was assassinated and the political left went huh, Kurt was

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Speaker 2: too short.

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Speaker 3: That's what happened.

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00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: Commentator after commentator after commentator on these networks didn't give

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Speaker 2: a damn. And now you're there's a big concern about

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Speaker 2: Trump and and toxicity and how we're speaking and how

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Speaker 2: she is apologizing.

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00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: About it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, this is not well done and well handled.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying you should be threatened. Do you absolutely

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Speaker 2: don't threaten people? It's insane, But you go on CNN

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Speaker 2: to have the to have to make the argument CNN's

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Speaker 2: only talking to you because Trump's yelling at you. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: Representative Green, we don't know each other.

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Speaker 3: Do you think they like you now?

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Speaker 2: Do you think they're your friends? Do you think they care?

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Speaker 2: Do you actually think for a second this was the

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Speaker 2: proper venue? You know, sometimes it's hard to save people

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Speaker 2: from themselves. It's hard to believe that people can't understand

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Speaker 2: what's happening. But this was not a way to bring

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Speaker 2: people to your side. This was not a way to

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Speaker 2: make your case regarding the President being wrong, which is

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Speaker 2: an acceptable case to make. This was you giving CNN ammunition.

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Speaker 2: And if you think they're going to stop the toxicity

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Speaker 2: or they're commentators, well there is no way to help

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Speaker 2: you at all. Then I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today.

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Speaker 5: But let me ask you the question I asked again.

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Speaker 5: So the tariffs have been removed from these items that

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Speaker 5: we all, many of us buy every you know, the

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Speaker 5: prorocery store, how soon do we expect the prices on

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Speaker 5: those goods now to go down?

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Speaker 6: Right? Well, the prices for those goods weren't necessarily going

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Speaker 6: up just because of tariffs, and so the crisis will

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Speaker 6: go down. Well, the prices will go down, of course, but.

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Speaker 5: Because the tariffs have been taken off, right.

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Speaker 6: Well, because the supply of the goods into the US

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Speaker 6: is going to increase.

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Speaker 3: But I mean to state the obvious.

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Speaker 5: I mean, tariffs do raise prices on Americans. Despite what

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Speaker 5: the President has said over again.

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Speaker 6: It depends on So if you look at it, how

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Speaker 6: much is inflation got up because the tariffs. Everybody was

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Speaker 6: saying we're going to have stagflation because of the tariffs

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Speaker 6: flitted fact year of year inflation is down the lake.

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Speaker 2: Now the inflation has not gone up the way people said.

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Speaker 2: And there was a very interesting story that Breitbart had

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Speaker 2: regarding this.

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Speaker 3: You see, they did a study from.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen seventy to twenty and they were able to show

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Speaker 2: that tariffs on a macro level do not increase short

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Speaker 2: term inflation.

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Speaker 3: Really interesting. I reviewed this with.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Matt will economist, University of Indianapolis, and there are

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Speaker 2: some flaws in this in terms of they only use

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Speaker 2: one data point. This is not something that's been reviewed.

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Speaker 2: This is not a final paper by any stretch. But

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Speaker 2: the conversation here that you're taking tariffs off of cocoa,

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Speaker 2: of coffee, of meat of beef, and you know it's

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Speaker 2: going to lower prices, Well, it means tariffs do indeed

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Speaker 2: raise the prices. And now the question is if you

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Speaker 2: are somebody who's a cattle rancher in the United States,

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Speaker 2: now Argentinian beef.

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Speaker 3: Has no tariff, do you now have to lower your costs.

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Speaker 2: Now, you guys know, if you listen to My Cigar

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Speaker 2: and Bourbon Show, I work with a group out of

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Speaker 2: Indiana called Defiance Beef. I order everything from them. You

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00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: can use, eat, drink, smoke is my cigar in Bourbon Show.

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Speaker 2: If you use that promo code, you'll get one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty dollars off. I mentioned that because I'm a

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Speaker 2: full disclosure kind of guy. Defines beef dot com. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how they respond to this, and I'm a

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Speaker 2: little concerned about that, except for the fact that tariffs

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Speaker 2: are still taxes and that's something that still needs to

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Speaker 2: get addressed.

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Speaker 3: So I'm happy for the removal.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's going to affect people in certain ways, but overall,

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Speaker 2: hopefully it means lower costs at a grocery store.

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Speaker 3: I'm toning fats