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Speaker 1: That's what this week has felt like for me and

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Speaker 4: Wants his real name known and that's why he goes

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Speaker 4: It was him and out of all players on the Pacers,

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Speaker 1: as i'm, watching It and i'm, watching It and I'm Watching,

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Speaker 1: about what. Could be it's impossible to not think. About It,

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Speaker 4: Mind here it's very Interesting Because eddie gill pointed this

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Speaker 4: pointed Out that charlotte is one of the teams this

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Speaker 4: they run a ton of. Offensive sets they they don't

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Speaker 4: The mismatches they go down to try to organize the

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Speaker 4: last night they were the first TEAM in nba history

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Speaker 4: to make twenty five or more threes in. Consecutive games,

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Speaker 4: can just roll out three point shooter after three. Point

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Speaker 4: Last Night But grant williams was one of the best

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Speaker 4: playing the last couple of Weeks, for charlotte and their

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Speaker 4: League since, january first and that's in large part why

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Speaker 4: they have won eight consecutive, rugue games maybe, NINE consecutive

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Speaker 4: Charlotte jake they're in that playing situation and they could

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Speaker 4: be a team Like the pacers where you never know

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Speaker 2: The postseason, totally agree and it wouldn't surprise me if

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Speaker 1: Shall See right as for, Last night Purdue In michigan

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Speaker 1: state bottom line For, The Boilers braden smith congratulations one

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Speaker 1: thousand now. Career assists he IS within i think seventy

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Speaker 1: michigan state in, this REGARD but i know we're kind

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Speaker 1: purdue that is so critical is getting some element. Of

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Speaker 1: that the two Areas for purdue that have. Been deficiencies

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Speaker 1: and that also Opens Up trey Kaufman w rehn and

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Speaker 1: what he wants. To do, last night they really didn't

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Speaker 1: The OUTSIDE and i thought got good minutes last night

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Speaker 1: Jack Bener But. Michigan state that win probably is as

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Speaker 2: Of years that's four.

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Speaker 4: Home losses now to, ranked, Opponents Right, Iowa, state illinois

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Speaker 1: those are. The things those are the games that you

435
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: look at it and, you, go man they got to get,

436
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: that right Even Though michigan state's obviously. VERY good i

437
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: Mean The big, ten's, LOADED man, i mean the bottom

438
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: Line The Big, TEN tournament i Mean, Between, Michigan Illinois,

439
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: Michigan state purdue and you kind of Forget, about nebraska

440
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: But keeping nebraska in there, AS well i mean, that's.

441
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: Loaded man so it's not, overly egregious but you Wonder

442
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: where purdue now falls in terms of the seating line

443
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: and the area is where or is it too late

444
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: to reinvent the areas where you.

445
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: NEED improvement.

446
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: A former voice Of The, butler bulldogs he's also the

447
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: Voice Of, it's, madden right isn't he the Voice. Of,

448
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: Madden Huh brandon gawdon is going to join us coming

449
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: up in just a couple, of minutes and we'll have

450
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 1: the answers to exactly that and more perhaps on what.

451
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: He thinks he was on the call last Night for

452
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: peacock for the Game Between michigan State and purdue Up In,

453
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: west lafayette and he'll add more perspective on what happened

454
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: and where they go from here that.

455
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: Conversation next.

456
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: This Lead in eddie reminds me of one of my

457
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: great late night three forty eight in, the morning staring

458
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: at the ceiling Questions that i've pondered for the last month. Or,

459
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: so okay i'll ask you that coming up in about.

460
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: Fifteen minutes any because We have brandon on the line

461
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: Right very god was on the call, last night, of

462
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: course no stranger To the. Indianapolis audience it was on

463
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: the call last Night on Peacock for Purdue And. Michigan

464
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: State the spartan's getting a tight one Over. The boilers

465
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: And when brandon is not putting together his Own One

466
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: shining moment video from, his apartment he joins us on.

467
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 2: The, program brandon how?

468
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: Are you I'm, good man it's been. A while how,

469
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 3: you doing you?

470
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: Know what.

471
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: No, Complaints man it's that time of year RIGHT where

472
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,719
Speaker 1: i don't care where, you ARE and i know That

473
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: if i'm, not mistaken at least the last time that, We,

474
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: talked brandon you were living in warmer Climate. Than indianapolis

475
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: but you can start to feel spring in, the air

476
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: and that means that you start Thinking About march madness a.

477
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: Little bit and you saw two teams last Night Between

478
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 1: michigan State and purdue that have expectation for certain when

479
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: it comes to. That tournament but let's begin With the

480
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: purdue side. OF things i think that we thought we

481
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: would see and it it feels uncomfortable to say this

482
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: about a team that has six losses and has been

483
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: ranked in the top ten or fifteen for the majority of.

484
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: The season but it feels like there's just one cylinder

485
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: that's misfiring, for THEM and i can't necessarily pinpoint what.

486
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 2: It IS am? I?

487
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: WRONG no i think.

488
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 6: You're right there's just that, times feel especially in these,

489
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 6: BIG games i would say that something. Is, Lacking now

490
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 6: i'm not just saying this to kind of backtrack and.

491
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 3: Save FACE do i.

492
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 6: Still think this is a team that can Make the.

493
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 6: Final four, Well Absolutely now i'm not saying, they will

494
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 6: but and they, Of COURSE but i just don't know

495
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 6: that this is a team that maybe is as dominant

496
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 6: as people expected it to be at the start of.

497
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 6: The season for All Of braden smith's, AMAZING qualities i

498
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 6: don't know if they have that guy right, now that

499
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 6: in a tight game like, last night with ninety seconds,

500
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 6: to go fulls the huddle together, and says, let's go

501
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 6: this is, pretty basketball this is our.

502
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: Home court let's get this. Done now maybe.

503
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 6: They do it just seems like we don't see it

504
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 6: out there on. The Court and i'm Not Saying braden

505
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 6: smith's not. A Leader matt painter says he's. A LEADER

506
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 6: but I Saw jeremy fears last Night For michigan state

507
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 6: pump his chest a couple times and then grab his

508
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 6: team and pull them together in a huddle and say

509
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 6: we're winning this. Basketball game you could you could kind of.

510
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 6: See that that's what he was saying across. The court

511
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 6: And again i'm not sitting Here Saying jeremy fearce's is

512
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 6: the better. Point guard he's not Braid and, smith's UNBELIEVABLE

513
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 6: but i just wonder at times if they've got, that

514
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 6: togetherness that closeness on the court that when things get

515
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 6: tough late and your back's against, the wall that they're ready,

516
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 6: to say, all right it's time to put up or.

517
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 6: Shut up and that remains to. Be seen, last, Night

518
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 6: Obviously michigan state was able to get. IT done i

519
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 6: still Believe, in PURDUE and I Think matt painter's as

520
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 6: good a coach as there Is. In america, but YEAH

521
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 6: there's i think we're all kind of asking that same

522
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 6: question of is there something just a little bit off with?

523
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: This?

524
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: Team brandon one of the things, you know you see

525
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: if you had to guesstimate off the top of your

526
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: head and the last we'll say, five years how many

527
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: college teams do you think you've seen in the last.

528
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: Five years just spitball a number one hundred.

529
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: And, FIFTY no i mean in person doing. Live games. Seventy,

530
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: five okay.

531
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: So seventy five still, a.

532
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: LOT right i would imagine that what you See with

533
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: purdue is a group that has been together and played

534
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: more games together, than most right because of just the

535
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: era of college basketball and produce unique ability to. Sustain

536
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: roster does that at, some, Point, though brandon is there

537
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: the possibility that, That actually i'm not going to say it,

538
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: hurts chemistry but that eventually it just allows guys to

539
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: become familiarity can then become almost a challenge for them

540
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: because you're just kind of going through the motions of

541
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: repetition and you're not banding together the way you did

542
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: when you were all learning at the.

543
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: Same time that's an.

544
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 6: INTERESTING thought i don't read much into that or think

545
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 6: that that's, necessarily accurate but it's an. INTERESTING discussion, i think,

546
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 6: to me what maybe is more at play in these

547
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 6: situations is the Nil ERA and i know people get

548
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 6: tired now talking about it kind of roll, their eyes

549
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 6: but maybe. The Money and i'm not saying the player shouldn't.

550
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 6: Be paid i'm one of the ones that thinks that

551
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 6: they should be. Getting something but the amount of money

552
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 6: that some of these guys, have gotten Like A, braden

553
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 6: smith does he still want?

554
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 7: To?

555
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 6: Win sure but does it change the dynamic in a

556
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 6: locker room when you've been together for three or four

557
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 6: years and certain guys ARE getting x number of dollars

558
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 6: and other guys are getting why number? Of dollars and

559
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 6: does it kind of alter your motivation and maybe. Your,

560
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 6: TOGETHERNESS again i Think That matt painter's as good as

561
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 6: anybody keeping a locker. Room Together and i'm not saying there's,

562
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 6: decision THERE but i just think it's. Human nature when

563
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 6: you put that much money, into play out, of nowhere

564
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 6: into the hit these hands of these, COLLEGE kids i

565
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 6: wonder how that alters what things are like behind the

566
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 6: scenes and the discussions, that're had and even if things

567
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 6: aren't set, out loud what people think and what they're

568
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 6: saying in private about their teammates and how everything's going

569
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 6: down and, oh well maybe there's not as much. Motivation,

570
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 6: here again that to me is more of the discussion

571
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 6: of what could potentially be happening when you've got groups

572
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 6: that have been together for three or. Four YEARS but

573
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 6: i still think the pros outweigh the cons BECAUSE when

574
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 6: i talk to, these coaches every single one of them

575
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 6: talks ad nauseam about how hard it is a to

576
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 6: put together, a roster BUT then b to get that

577
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 6: roster to gel and all of Them In november DECEMBER

578
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 6: saying i am teaching them level one hundred things when

579
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 6: we should be talking levels three hundred and four hundred

580
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 6: with a couple of seniors that have been in my

581
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 6: program that can lead on.

582
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: The floor and they don't.

583
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 6: Have that purdue does, Have THAT but i just don't

584
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 6: know what, that again that, nil era that money that's,

585
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 6: being paid what that dynamic does to. A team and

586
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 6: maybe we're still too early in this new world of

587
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 6: college basketball. To Know but i'm sure some stories will

588
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 6: come out over the next, few years because it can't

589
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 6: all be roses and everything's just.

590
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: Hunky dory and, You, know brandon the reality is you

591
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: also in, today's World and purdue has done a remarkable

592
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: job of, avoiding this but you at any point are

593
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: at risk of some other program coming and grabbing the

594
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: key block On the djenga pile in the transfer portal

595
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: and then, everything collapses you KNOW what, i mean if

596
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: they're getting a key Player and prdue's, avoided that but

597
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 1: then you also when you add pieces in that takes a.

598
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: Rejail process but let's get To What michigan state. Last

599
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: night when you look at that game, Last night perdue

600
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: leading it To Half michigan state and it's a. Close

601
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: game was that more About What michigan state did Execute

602
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: what purdue failed.

603
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 6: TO do i think it was more About What michigan.

604
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 6: State did, and really, You Know jeremy fear's statline didn't blow.

605
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 6: YOU away i think he had twelve points and. Six

606
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 6: ASSISTS but I And tom izzo said this after on.

607
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 6: Our broadcast he controlled, the game he. Really did when

608
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 6: the ball was in. His hands there was a calm with,

609
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 6: that offense and he was really in command And Had

610
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 6: michigan state executing a little bit better Later than. Purdue

611
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 6: DID and, I look I Think michigan state is a.

612
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 6: STRANGE team a lot, of times, those teams, you know

613
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 6: they don't. Win pretty that's never really been. His identity,

614
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 6: they defend, they rebound, they run and they try to

615
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 6: beat you on the break and get. Transition points but

616
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 6: a lot of their games just feel like. Root canals

617
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 6: they're just gonna glind. It out they're going to find,

618
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 6: a way and that's what they did. Last night it's

619
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 6: a TEAM that i could see losing in the, first

620
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 6: round is getting upset by a, fourteen SEED or i

621
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 6: could see them making a.

622
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: Deep run they certainly have.

623
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 6: The pieces they don't hit a lot, of threes but

624
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 6: because they've got such a good point guard and they've

625
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 6: got such. GOOD rebounding i think it's team that can

626
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 6: disrupt IN the. Ncaa TOURNAMENT but i will SAY that

627
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 6: I thought purdue did falter a little bit late. Execution

628
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 6: wise there were some key possessions late where you got

629
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 6: To Give mission state, credit Defensively but purdue just wasn't

630
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 6: able to get anything done and they were kind of

631
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 6: stuck in the mud in The half, bourt offense and

632
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 6: it was a bad time to do that in such

633
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 6: a close game late There At. Mackie ARENA so i

634
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 6: Also Just, Fletcher LAWYER and i know everyone has Opinions On,

635
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 6: fletcher lawyer and you look at his game, by game

636
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 6: and one game he'll get you, twenty nine and then,

637
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 6: it's seven and then, it's fifteen and then. It's ten

638
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 6: it's a little all over, the place and at times

639
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 6: sometimes he'll. Just disappear and the physicality of a game like,

640
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 6: last night it's not great to.

641
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: Me for a Guy Like.

642
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 6: Fletcher LAWYER and i felt that they could have used

643
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 6: him and used a couple of big threes to. Spark

644
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 6: things and it's a combination of he wasn't able to

645
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 6: free himself and the physicality of the game seemed to

646
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 6: get to him a. Little BIT but I just i

647
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 6: You Fet. Fletcher lawyer he's too big of a name

648
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 6: TO say. X factor but if they're going to make

649
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 6: a run in, The Tournament, FLETCHER lawyer i don't think

650
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 6: that he can just disappear and have a five point

651
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 6: or six point game and go two to six from

652
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 6: three and not get. SHOTS up i really think they're

653
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 6: going to need him to turn it on a different Level.

654
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: COME march a two part question to wrap it, All,

655
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: here brandon would, Be this i'd like to know the

656
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: team that this year has most impressed you in comparison

657
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: to what you anticipated out of them at the beginning of.

658
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: The Year so i'm not.

659
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: Saying this, you know it would be easy, to, Say

660
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: well arizona or, You, know duke, you know are the

661
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: most impressive on. The Year but i'm talking about one

662
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: that when you, watch them, you said they are far

663
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: EXCEEDING where i thought they were going, to Be and i'm.

664
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: Really impressed and then the other ONE is i guess

665
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: just overall the team that you saw and, you said

666
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter whether the underperforming, or not they are

667
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: so mega talented they're going to be in the thick no,

668
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: MATTER what.

669
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 6: I think i'll start with, the LADDER and i Think.

670
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 6: IT'S michigan i Just think michigan is so darn good

671
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 6: the way that they were winning, games early just blowing

672
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 6: teams out right. And left now have we seen at

673
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 6: times that they have weaknesses and can. Get, Exposed yes but,

674
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 6: to me top, to bottom the highest.

675
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: Ceiling belongs To The.

676
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 6: Michigan WOLVERINES and i know some, people, say well What,

677
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 6: about arizona What. About yukon they're, Great teams but it's just,

678
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 6: to me if you go down, THE roster I think

679
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 6: michigan has the highest ceiling and the highest chance to

680
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 6: cut down. The nets now, the team and maybe some people, will,

681
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 6: say well why would you put them in a, Surprising

682
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 6: Category but yukon is the. Biggest surprise We knew yukon would.

683
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 6: BE good i didn't know that they would, be great and.

684
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 6: They're great and at some point you just got to

685
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 6: for All Of danny hurley's warts and for all of

686
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 6: the complaining at the refs and, all that you just

687
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 6: got to say that the guy is an. Unbelievable coach

688
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 6: Because The big east is not what it used. To

689
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 6: be it has changed. This year it Is down, yukon

690
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 6: somehow it does. Not matter he has built something. Up

691
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 6: there it is. A factory guys want to go and play,

692
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 6: for him and he can.

693
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 3: Coach old school in a new.

694
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 6: School world and that's not easy to do because a

695
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 6: lot of these guys don't want to be coach. Tough

696
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 6: Anymore But, danny hurley because he's won, so much he

697
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 6: can get on his guys like a lot of other

698
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 6: coaches can't and still get the most out.

699
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 3: Of them and they don't went. On him so we

700
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: knew that they would.

701
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 6: Be GOOD but i saw them Early against EYU and

702
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 6: i thought they were, pretty good and they've just gotten

703
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 6: better as the season has. Gone On so i'm just

704
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 6: really Impressed with yukon And What danny.

705
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 3: Hurley Is No.

706
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: Danny hurley gives you every reason when you watch to

707
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: be exhausted. By HIM but i thought when he went

708
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: to Bat For thad mada after their Game, AT hinkle

709
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: i thought that was. VERY cool i thought it was

710
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: a class act of a guy that was a coach

711
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: that did not hesitate, to say look this.

712
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: Guy you know beat me on. The regular he's a

713
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 2: hell of.

714
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: A Coach In thad mada and don't judge him based

715
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: on the tools that he's being Given. IT butler i

716
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: thought it was a classy Thing For danny hurley to

717
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: say and do it also without Completely throwing butler under,

718
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: the bus but simply, by, saying look you know they

719
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: need to help him out a little. BIT here i

720
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: thought it was a cool Move By. Danny hurley brandon appreciate.

721
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: The time great call last night.

722
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 6: As well by, the, way, yeah man and, REAL quick

723
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 6: i know you got to jump but On That danny

724
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 6: hurley gets a lot of SLACK and i people want

725
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 6: to jump on him when you're, with him to shoot

726
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 6: around him one. On one he is, an insightful. Funny

727
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 6: guy he gives you what, you need so there is

728
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 6: a side to him that people don't see that is.

729
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: Very likable it's just once the, game starts he's. A,

730
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: maniac yes, no question appreciate you.

731
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: HAVING me i, Appreciate.

732
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: It Brandon brandon gordon Joining us peacock. Last night he

733
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: was on The Call michigan state, seventy six seventy Four.

734
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: OVER purdue a lot happening over At The convention center for.

735
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: The Combine kevin bowen's been there for all. Of it

736
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: he joins us in fifteen Thanks To brandon gordon for.

737
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: His Time kevin bowen coming up about twelve minutes.

738
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: From now here's THE question i pondered the, Other, night

739
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 2: eddie about three forty eight in. The morning i'm laying,

740
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: in bed and.

741
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 4: By, the way this request Is, from bonnie female Listener From. South, florida,

742
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 4: really yes it's a, Great.

743
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: Song bonnie you could never go Wrong with casey In The,

744
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: sunshine band especially when we're talking about. Sunshine days music

745
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: that make you feel instantly like you're gonna roll the

746
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: windows down in. The sun this has got to be

747
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: right up to the top of, the.

748
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: List right.

749
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: So the, Other night i'm sitting THERE and i get

750
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: a song stuck in, my, head right and you know

751
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: when you get and somebody gave me somebody earlier blamed

752
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: me for the Fact that. Eddie MONEY now i want to.

753
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 4: Go BACK but.

754
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: I can't that song, Somebody said jake thinks that's now

755
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: going to be stuck in my head the rest of.

756
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: The day not a, terrible, song right not a. Terrible SONG.

757
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: But i got to Thinking about i'm sitting THERE and

758
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: i Have A David lee roth song that gets stuck in?

759
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: My, Head okay so it was Just like paradise is.

760
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: THE song i have no idea how it popped into,

761
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: my Head but i'm laying there and all of, A

762
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: sudden i just.

763
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: Hear this must be just like Living. In paradize. Good

764
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: song it is a.

765
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 1: Good, Song yeah and then it's stuck in. MY head

766
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: i wake up in the MORNING and i hear sus

767
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: sus Studio By, phil collins which led me to, This, question.

768
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 4: Well how do you spell THAT so su STUDIO sd

769
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 4: u s s.

770
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: D io i would assume.

771
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 3: Now Is That?

772
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: Phil collins or Is? That Genesis That's? Phil, Collins okay

773
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: and it led me to, this question which has led to.

774
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: Furious DEBATE and i BELIEVE that i have the perfect

775
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: compromise answer. On THIS but i asked This to Hammer Of.

776
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: HAMMER nigel i asked It, To Oh, NO nigel I

777
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: Asked noel hammer was there, AS well i Asked janv

778
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: I've Asked, LAURA steele I Asked, MICHAEL young i asked

779
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: all the MUSIC geeks. I know led to. Furious debate

780
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: who is the bigger icon of, The Eighties phil Collins

781
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: Or David.

782
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 2: Lee roth.

783
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: Bigger musical icon of, The Eighties phil Collins Or David.

784
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: Lee roth both frontmen of very. Successful bands both frontmen

785
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: of very successful bands that some would say the other

786
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: frontman was a. Better fit both went on to successful.

787
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 1: Solo careers bigger icon of The Eighties phil Collins Or David.

788
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 2: Lee roth do you have a guest on, This? One

789
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: eddie do you have? AN opinion i, should, Say.

790
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 4: Well i'm BIAS because I Like van halen more So Than,

791
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 4: Phil collins so EVEN though I.

792
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: Prefer, hagar okay so, you're saying but can you respect

793
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: the body of Work Of?

794
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 2: Phil, collins YEAH.

795
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: Sure i can.

796
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 8: Do.

797
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: That yeah you know two of the biggest albums of

798
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: The Eighties van halen nineteen eighty Four and Land of

799
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: Confusion from genesis Or was Land of confusion wasn't the

800
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: name of? The Album? Invisible touch Sorry The invisible? Touch album?

801
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: Massive album both of the Massive, Albums massive two of

802
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: the biggest music videos of, The eighties Land of Confusion

803
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: from genesis Jump From.

804
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: Van halen you know?

805
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: SOLO songs, i Mean Obviously David lee roth had successful,

806
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: Solo stuff So Tooted phil collins In the Air to

807
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: night might be the most epic song OF and i

808
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: think that's nineteen.

809
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: Eighty so in. The eighties.

810
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: BUT what i noticed is very few like this led

811
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: to people got like super opinionated.

812
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: About IT.

813
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: And I think i came up with the perfect. Answer,

814
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: Here okay i'd like to know. Right now i'll do

815
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: a survey and you could text either to me at

816
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 1: three one seven five two three ninety two eighty eight

817
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: three one seven five two three ninety two, eighty eight

818
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: or you can text the station text line three one

819
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: seven two three nine. Ten seventy either one. Your answer

820
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: bigger musical icon of, The Eighties phil Collins Or David.

821
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: Lee roth, to Me it's Brady. And manning they're, very similar,

822
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: very SIMILAR and i have a feeling it Would. Be

823
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: Jake phil collins certainly had the more successful. Solo career

824
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: it's not, even close no disagreement. ON that, i, Mean

825
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: Look David lee roth had what three or four, big

826
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: Hits But phil collins had some, absolutely massive, massive hits.

827
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: MASSIVE hits i think the WAY that i would look

828
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: at it would, Be This phil collins is undoubtedly the

829
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: bigger icon of, the Two But David lee roth is

830
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: the bigger icon of the Eighties Because David, lee roth

831
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: if you were to go to a police sketch artist

832
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: and you were to describe to the sketch artist what

833
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: the decade of the eighties, looks like they would describe

834
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: to you someone, in parachute, zipper pants leaping high in

835
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: the air with, hair flying if it's not already been

836
00:44:54,680 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 1: held Down by aquinet and nine different, like friendship bead

837
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: looking bracelets on and all, about glitz, glamour images everything.

838
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: And excess and That's What David lee. Roth Personified David

839
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: lee roth to be more represents. The Eighties But phil

840
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: collins is the bigger. Musical Icon phil collins is a bigger.

841
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: Musical Artist David lee roth was a bigger showman in

842
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: the eighties was.

843
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 4: About showmanship you know what this discussion reminds. Me of

844
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 4: it's You. Versus java, ELABORATE please, i mean one of

845
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 4: you Can Be, phil collins one of you Can Be

846
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 4: David lee which ONES which i?

847
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: DON'T know i.

848
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 4: Don't know it's not for me.

849
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 3: To decide.

850
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: That's a.

851
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: Good question which, one's Which though i'm cool, with it

852
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: but Which ones i'm actually?

853
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: COOL being EEDA one.

854
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 4: I was, about saying in terms of, the, host well

855
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 4: we got a factor in jeff.

856
00:45:52,080 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: Rickor, two, Well no ricor would be more Be Like, Frankie,

857
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: VALLEY right i don't know who that is or what. That,

858
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: is well he's a few generations before, Those.

859
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 4: Two, okay right then you got The young Olpha Comers

860
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 4: kevin Bowen And. James boyd, That's correct.

861
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: That's correct so they they would be, You know Bowen

862
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: and boyd are What like nirvana and like there their. Grunge,

863
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: music right they're gonna they're gonna burst us right out

864
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: of the relevance and. Take, over, right. Yeah understood so

865
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Speaker 1: that puts you At, What, Eddie.

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Speaker 4: Well i'm not. A host i'm Just still i'm just

867
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Speaker 4: a guy with.

868
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869
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: Mic understood, but like there has got to be, somebody that,

870
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Speaker 1: you know when you, look back there's somebody that that.

871
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: Broke through, you know, you're, like uh You're like usher

872
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: or you KNOW what, I, mean like, you know there

873
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: are those artists that you find out they were supporting

874
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: background artists for a while and then they they worked their,

875
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: way up they, were understudies they worked their, way up

876
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: and then they became much bigger than the people that

877
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: they ultimately, were replacing which is what You and nathaniel

878
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: and You Know mark Taylor, and.

879
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: Mark that's what you guys, Are right we, know that

880
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: we all.

881
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 6: Know.

882
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: THAT well i will ask both.

883
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: About It kevin bowen been at the combine all week

884
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: and most importantly we'll ask him what has been learned.

885
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: From, that next.

886
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,719
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889
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890
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893
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895
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,840
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897
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:59,120
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898
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Speaker 1: bad influence on the station to hear sports TALK and

899
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: i have to hear someone Talking About. David lee roth

900
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: station gets turned off FOR the. Nfl CHANNEL it's, nfl

901
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: station not, a channel it's. The STATION but i do

902
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 1: apologize within the three HOURS that i deviated for six.

903
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: Minutes There kevin bowen joins, us now, good NEWS all

904
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: nfl talk now right.

905
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 2: By.

906
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: The way kevin will be with us at the golf

907
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: out and coming up At The Legends. Golf club this

908
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: is going To be, april thirtieth doing it this year

909
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: a little. Bit early probably won't be as hot as.

910
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: Last year and also you'll be getting into the swing,

911
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: of things getting set for the Month. Of may kevin will,

912
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: Be there i'll, be there jamb will. Be there all

913
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: of us will be At The Legends, golf club which

914
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: is a fabulous golf club Down. In franklin and all

915
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: of this is to help Out With franciscan health And

916
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: The Franciscan. Health foundation one of the real benefits as

917
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: well is that they will have stations there for all

918
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: of your health questions to, be answered screenings. As well

919
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: early bird special in effect for another week twenty five

920
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: dollars off per person one hundred dollars. Offer foursome all

921
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: of the information available at our station website one oh,

922
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: seven five the fan. Dot com kevin joins us now

923
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: On The Java House colbrew coffee guest Line, and kevin

924
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: let's begin with. This combine now the week of being

925
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: out there for, player interviews buzz and things like that is.

926
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: Winding down is there anything any major storyline that jumped

927
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: out as a surprise this week as it relates to,

928
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 1: incoming prospects not those that are already.

929
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: Within, FRANCHISES.

930
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 9: Well i think as far as the draft, is concerned,

931
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 9: you know We Had dan Briggler on WINDAY Show Nfl.

932
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 9: Draft analysts he mentioned sixteen edge rush rushers he has

933
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 9: in the.

934
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 3: Top one hundred of.

935
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 9: THE draft i think that's a very high number if

936
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,959
Speaker 9: you compare that to, recent years and it's a number

937
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 9: Of that if You're a, COLTS fan i think would,

938
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 9: make you, you know, pretty please because he with not draft until. Forty,

939
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 9: Seven Overall chris ballard seemingly love in trading back as

940
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 9: much as you.

941
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 3: Love cologne you got to rely on the depth of.

942
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 9: The draft you got to rely on the guts of,

943
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 9: the draft and so the fact that it apparently Matches

944
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 9: the colts number ONE need i THINK is i think

945
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 9: it's a. Good thing, So yeah i'd probably. Start there,

946
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 9: you know as far as like prospects, are concerned it

947
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 9: was a. LONG wait i don't know if you, ever Chatted.

948
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 3: But Omar cooper junior had a really long wait for

949
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 3: his media.

950
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 9: Session today sometimes that means a little bit MORE medical evl. On,

951
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 9: guys so, You Know cooper dell was a little bit

952
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 9: of stuff this past Season. In indiana but, you know

953
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 9: is there just anything there that he needs to get cleaned,

954
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 9: up to, you know kind of assure himself AS a

955
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 9: i guess potentially a first. Round pick you know that

956
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 9: that would be kind of a local item THAT that i.

957
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: LEARNED today I thought middoza did a really good job

958
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: of Talking Up, omar COOPER which i, you know, their,

959
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: TEAMMATES right i, get IT and i. Appreciate it but

960
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: when HE was i think he compared Him To deebo

961
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: samuel and, just said, you know he's a he's an

962
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: in space threat that they can Do that mendoza could do.

963
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: Things with there's some truth, To, that kevin And but,

964
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: i'm curious do you believe That that scouts and or

965
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: people of influence hear that and take it with a

966
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: grain of salt because, it's, like yeah that's a quarterback

967
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: speaking up, his guy or does that go with merit

968
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: towards lifting a.

969
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: Guy's, STATUS.

970
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, i Mean.

971
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 9: Obviously fernani doesA doesn't strikes me as an avid it's

972
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 9: really going to publicly say anything negative. At ALL but,

973
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 9: i mean, you know when you Consider The DeVos, samuel

974
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 9: analogy IT'S something i Feel like i've even BEEN saying

975
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 9: i threw.

976
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 3: It The dane brugler earlier in.

977
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 9: The week you know that that, TO me i think

978
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 9: makes a whole lot of sense of a guy that,

979
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 9: you know you can line up in a lot of,

980
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 9: different roles and, you, know again he can make plays

981
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 9: with the ball in his hands, through physicality, through speed through.

982
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 9: Breaking tackles, YOU know i go back to a couple

983
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 9: of plays In that national. Title game they got the

984
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 9: ball in his hands early on in. THE game i

985
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 9: remember there's a first and twenty where he just, you

986
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 9: know pretty simple pitching and again his yard after catchability

987
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 9: turned it. Into SOMETHING so, i mean there seems to

988
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 9: be a lot of Buzz, around cooper and, you know

989
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 9: again it's kind of something we Didn't Have Great gray shaw.

990
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 9: On today but, You, know jay you'd be a good

991
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 9: person to throw, this to. You Know Omar cooper Junior From,

992
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 9: Lawrence north dylan deenam in the Safety, from westfield, You

993
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 9: know purdue And. THEN oregon, i mean when's the, last

994
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 9: time if You include donut counties that we've had maybe

995
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 9: two indie prospects going, round one and it seems like

996
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 9: there is a decent chance that could happen. This year

997
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 9: so kind of crazy to look at it from a

998
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 9: local angle with both.

999
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 3: Those guys boy in.

1000
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: Round, one yeah you're that you're getting into tough territory

1001
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: there because some of the great players that have come

1002
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: out of. This area i've, been, second third fourth. Round

1003
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: picks that's sort of. A thing Where Is kate.

1004
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 9: Martin was a first, round pick but again, you know

1005
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 9: you know that was just him and that twenty at

1006
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 9: think thirteen or, fourteen drafts so you get two and,

1007
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 9: ONE draft i mean two out of. Thirty two don't

1008
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 9: think we've done that very often as.

1009
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: A state where does where do things Stand With kayden

1010
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: curry Out Of, ohio state who's also a center.

1011
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: Grove, GUY yeah.

1012
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 9: I think a little bit later in, THE draft, i

1013
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 9: believe Like some. Day three so just a recap when

1014
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 9: We say, day, one, Two three day one is, Round

1015
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 9: one day two is round two, and three and then

1016
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,479
Speaker 9: round four through. Seven there, Day three, SO yeah, i think,

1017
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 9: you know maybe early on day three, For Him.

1018
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: Kevin bowen, my guest you, hear him of course in

1019
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: the Mornings The Fan morning Show With, James Boyd. Jeff

1020
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: rickard he's been out of the combine. All, week kevin

1021
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: what things did you extract that maybe you did, not anticipate,

1022
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: if any let me, say that if any anticipate Hearing

1023
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: From chris ballard or Learning From chris ballard when you

1024
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: talk to him at.

1025
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 9: The, COMBINE well i mean the Fact That mooney ward

1026
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 9: is going to play in twenty. TWENTY six i think it's,

1027
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 9: huge NEWS and i don't think it was a.

1028
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 3: Slam, dunk now, you know it is good news.

1029
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 9: ON paper i, mean again if you look at their

1030
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 9: cornerback room, On Paper, Sauce Gardner, mooney ward, You Know

1031
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 9: kenny moore The, second yeah let's not Even Throw justin

1032
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 9: wally coming off OF. TORN acm, i mean the guys

1033
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 9: you have to play IN an. Nfl game but just

1034
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 9: if you look at, THOSE three i mean it's, BEEN

1035
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 9: years i would argue Since the colts started a season

1036
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 9: with that type of. Cornerback trio now the context, would be,

1037
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 9: You know kenny is getting up there a little bit.

1038
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 9: In age mooney is also getting up there, an age and,

1039
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 9: of course you know he just went through a season with,

1040
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 9: three concussions and, you know.

1041
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 3: When you, PLAY cornerback i don't.

1042
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 9: Think of that as the most concussion. Filled position, you

1043
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 9: know obviously you are making some violent tackles throughout, the

1044
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 9: game but you know there are, you know a quarter

1045
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 9: that could go by where a corner doesn't really maybe

1046
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 9: necessarily engage in an actual tackle or you know that

1047
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 9: sort of.

1048
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 3: You know type of.

1049
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 9: Physicality play so, that's where in an, IDEAL world i

1050
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 9: Think the cold could add a little.

1051
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 3: Cornerback insurance at some point. This offseason but, you know do.

1052
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 9: You have enough resources available to? Do that that's probably.

1053
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 9: A no, SO yeah i think that was probably the

1054
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 9: biggest item in regards to a little bit of the

1055
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 9: yes or. No, ANSWER obviously i Think The anthony, richardson

1056
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 9: evidence you you could pretty clearly see it was going

1057
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 9: to end in the manner that it did with this.

1058
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 9: Trade request And then i'll Go To. Zyra franklin, you

1059
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 9: know the conversation we.

1060
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 3: Had with him.

1061
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 9: Was you know something that, you know we're talking about

1062
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 9: a guy, under contract and you Know When chris ballard.

1063
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 3: Offers a, wolf see uh you know.

1064
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 9: For, THAT well i don't know how Many times ballot's

1065
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 9: ever said we'll see on a guy, you know under

1066
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 9: contract in terms of him returning to the. Football team,

1067
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 9: so here those are probably a couple of Things balor

1068
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 9: balat related.

1069
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: THAT said, Epi Me, kevin bowen is, my guest been

1070
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: out of the combine, All.

1071
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: WEEK kevin i want to get more Into The athony.

1072
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: RICHARDSON thing i said this off the top of, the

1073
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: show and, YOU know i RECALL and i don't remember

1074
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: exactly when, it was whether it was after the. HELMET tap,

1075
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: i mean there have been so many peaks, and valleys

1076
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: more obviously valleys, than peaks And The anthony richardson tenure

1077
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: here that it's almost hard for me to keep straight.

1078
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: The timeline but one of the benchings that, he HAD

1079
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: and i think it was after the, helmet tap you

1080
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: had sent out the tweet announcing That the, colts were,

1081
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: you know removing him from the. Starting POSITION and i

1082
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: remember at that time sending a TWEET and i was

1083
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: probably premature that said, it's over because, to me at

1084
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: that point that it, was over they. Were DONE and

1085
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: i think he did get more opportunity, Beyond that but

1086
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: do you Think the colts were almost out on him

1087
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: even before they officially.

1088
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 2: You know due to, the injury had him on. The, SIDELINE.

1089
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 9: Yeah i think to tap out definitely was, a huge.

1090
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 9: Huge point, YOU know i would point if there was

1091
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 9: any last hope you, know, that Uh that baltimore game in,

1092
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 9: the preseason, you know this past year when, you know

1093
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 9: he misidentifies the blitzer off the edge and boom he

1094
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 9: sacked and suffers the. Finger injury and, you know albeit

1095
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 9: just in, the preseason but here he is getting. Hurt

1096
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 9: again here he is, you know probably more importantly for

1097
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 9: the sake of like evaluating the football player and misidentifying a. Preseason,

1098
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 9: pressure uh you know that would be probably. Another time

1099
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 9: so and then REALLY just, i mean obviously the orbital

1100
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 9: fracture was the. Ultimate nail the costs because, you know

1101
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 9: if you play this this twenty twenty five season out

1102
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 9: in the manner that we just, watched it and the only.

1103
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 3: Thing you change is a.

1104
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 9: Resistance band doesn't snap and hit him in, the, eye

1105
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 9: well then he, GETS well i don't know if he,

1106
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 9: says healthy but he's your starting quarterback for the final

1107
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 9: four games of, The season so, you know could you imagine,

1108
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 9: you KNOW him a getting that.

1109
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 3: SAMPLE.

1110
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 9: Size b let's just say he Looked Like riley leonard

1111
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 9: in those, Four starts like if he just showed, you

1112
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 9: know you Would, say leonard WHAT but? B effort, YOU

1113
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 9: know B PLUS i i don't know how you want

1114
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 9: to grade him if you would have said That. About richardson,

1115
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 9: you know in that amount of, playing time are we

1116
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 9: getting to what we have got to right now with

1117
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 9: the trader request and seemingly the marriage being, over with

1118
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 9: or would there be a little bit more of, a well,

1119
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 9: you Know If daniel jones isn't going to recover Fully

1120
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 9: by september, you, know tenth then, you know maybe we

1121
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 9: Do start anthony for the first few games of. The

1122
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 9: Season if daniel's gonna look like he did with a

1123
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 9: fibula in terms of, a movement, you know type.

1124
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 3: Of quarterback or lack thereof for the first month of.

1125
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 9: The season, but yeah you go back to the, tap out,

1126
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 9: you know and if you think about that game, IN

1127
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 9: general i know he really struggled throwing it early in

1128
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 9: terms of. A completion i think there were some, drops

1129
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 9: there but yet the huge pick six right before half.

1130
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 3: As well in, that game.

1131
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 9: You know he actually came back and he had probably

1132
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 9: his finest moments as a Pro, post benching to come

1133
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 9: Back In, new york to come Back Against. NEW england

1134
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 9: i mean those who are fourth QUARTER dare i say,

1135
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 9: clutch drives clutch Moments. From richardson but, then again he's

1136
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 9: got the Game in denver and then he suffers that,

1137
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 9: back injury which is probably not one we talk about,

1138
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 9: that much but, you know he had the back TO

1139
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 9: end i guess that would be the twenty, fourth season

1140
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 9: which once again took him out off, the field and

1141
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 9: the ability to have a couple of starts there at

1142
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 9: the end of. That season, BUT yeah i mean finesight,

1143
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 9: of course very. Twenty twenty, but yeah, you were you

1144
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 9: were very spot on.

1145
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,439
Speaker 1: WITH that i feel the More that i've thought, About,

1146
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: it Kevin and i'm Not Absolving anthony richardson to. Blame,

1147
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: here okay maybe some of the learning points or, the lights,

1148
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: you know saying with the neon light, saying hey, you

1149
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: know start learning here never clicked on as. They SHOULD

1150
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: but i Think the colts are as much to blame

1151
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: for the failure Of The anthony richardson saga as anyone

1152
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: because they they simply spoiled and coddled him too early

1153
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: and didn't recognize that he was someone that was going

1154
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: to need to be. Pushed early they didn't decide to

1155
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: push him and make him start working for it until

1156
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: it was.

1157
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 2: Too late, Your, THOUGHTS.

1158
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 9: Yeah i think when you slice up, the pie, you,

1159
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 9: can hell you can make. The argument you could evenly

1160
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 9: slice it out, to, scouting coaching, and player, you know

1161
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 9: the player we've kind of. GONE over i think there

1162
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 9: was a clear kind of lack of lack of general

1163
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 9: maturity in regards to, you know again what it means

1164
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 9: to play quarterback IN, the nfl, you know, COACHING wise

1165
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 9: i think some of it that also falls into the.

1166
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 9: Coaching boat, but again handed him the starting keys as

1167
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 9: early as. YOU did, i, mean hell they named him

1168
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 9: a captain.

1169
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 3: Before he had ever played IN.

1170
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 9: THE nfl, i mean if you really have, questions about,

1171
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 9: you know some of these, the leadership, whatever qualities, work

1172
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 9: ethic you know you you you.

1173
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 3: Hear all these coaches.

1174
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 9: Talk so high and mighty about, you know THE letter

1175
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 9: c on your chests and. All, that well it seems

1176
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 9: to be a bit of a misrepresentation. Of it AND

1177
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 9: then i go back to scouting because, you know whether

1178
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 9: you thought the accuracy could have, been corrected whether you

1179
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 9: thought the maturity was higher than it, really was there

1180
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 9: was clearly a misevaluation. In that and this is where

1181
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 9: the draft process gets. It difficult but it also is

1182
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 9: something to where you know you had reached a point

1183
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 9: in time as a franchise where you had you had

1184
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 9: to draft a QUARTERBACK like, i mean you had tried

1185
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 9: the band aid thing and you had failed at it

1186
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 9: so frequently that you know you're in a position to

1187
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 9: draft the. Young quarterback so, YOU know i think If Your,

1188
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 9: jim mersey if you're, You Know, chris ballard in, that

1189
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 9: instance you say to your, scouting department, all right let's

1190
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 9: look at these, four guys because at the time there

1191
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 9: were generally four, Being Discussed, BRYCE. Young, Cj Strout, Anthony Richardson.

1192
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 9: Will levis and then you rank those, four obviously and

1193
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 9: then you sitting there with the fourth, overall pick you have,

1194
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 9: to decide, all right how do we? Rank them are

1195
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 9: we content with getting the the the third of the

1196
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 9: fourth or in, this position they were actually content with

1197
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 9: getting the fourth of. The fourth you know they didn't

1198
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 9: trade up to, number three which ended up Actually being

1199
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 9: houston trading back.

1200
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 3: Up there.

1201
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 9: And, because chicago, you know clearly was open. For business

1202
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 9: you know they have the number one overall pick Originally.

1203
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 9: In carolina of course you know comes straighten up To Get.

1204
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 9: Bryce young so you know that is a point in

1205
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 9: time as the franchise where against, SCOUTING wise i think

1206
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 9: you have to look at, and, say okay yes there

1207
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 9: are these, four quarterbacks but there's a huge drop off

1208
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 9: after the first one or the first two in, the

1209
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 9: instance looking back on, the class that's kind of what it.

1210
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 9: Looks like there's a huge drop after the, first two

1211
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 9: and so trading up, willbeit expensive clearly. Was necessary when

1212
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 9: you look back on that twenty twenty, three Draft.

1213
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 2: Lass kevin the combine itself?

1214
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: This week did you get? A gauge and maybe we'll never.

1215
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: Know this do you Believe That fernanda mendoza is going

1216
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: to be the number one pick To the raiders because

1217
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: he has clearly thought of as the best player in

1218
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: this draft and a, generational quarterback which is what you

1219
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: want when you're taking one number. One overall or is

1220
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: it simply That the raiders are on the clock and need,

1221
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: a Quarterback and mendoza is the one first round worthy

1222
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: quarterback in, this draft and so it's the perfect Storm.

1223
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: For mendoza it's.

1224
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 3: Funny that you bring. That up i've heard you, ASKED

1225
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 3: this i think of.

1226
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 9: A guest, or two and it actually kind of spurred

1227
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 9: a little bit of a conversation we had this week

1228
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 9: with some of the draft people we Had on so

1229
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 9: We Had dane brugler that mention and From the Athletic.

1230
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 9: On wednesday We Had field YATES from espn, on TODAY

1231
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 9: or i guess We had Brugler, on thursday and then

1232
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 9: We Had field yates. On Today so i'll go Back

1233
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 9: To dan brugler's conversation. With us he thinks If arch

1234
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 9: manning was in this, draft class there would be a

1235
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 9: very legit debate on who would go number.

1236
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 3: One overall and then We.

1237
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 9: Had field yates on Today and field says something to

1238
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 9: the Effect of mendoza is the biggest slam dunk to

1239
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 9: go number one overall in probably over. A DECADE and

1240
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 9: i think he actually went back maybe to that luck.

1241
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 9: Draft there, but again, even THEN with rg, three's presence

1242
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 9: maybe you debated that a little Bit MORE so i

1243
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 9: think it's interesting because, you know obviously in this year's

1244
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 9: draft Class Without, arch manning there's, a clear clear drought

1245
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 9: from one. TO two I think mendoza's a really, really

1246
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 9: nice you know whatever number one quarterback in. A class,

1247
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 9: you KNOW do i think He's whatever Burrow or luck or,

1248
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 9: you Know even lawrence.

1249
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 3: To A, GREAT no i don't think. He's that and,

1250
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 3: you know when you Look at arch, you.

1251
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 9: Know yes he had a nice end of, the season

1252
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 9: but obviously he did not live up to the year

1253
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 9: one hyps that a lot of people Thought.

1254
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 2: Is arch manning in that discussion of, his Name Is?

1255
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 9: Arch, BOWEN yeah I think damus pretty honest is saying.

1256
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 9: Probably not but, you know, you are you're probably gonna

1257
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 9: bet on.

1258
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 2: YOU know i get it for.

1259
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 9: A reason, so yeah it's kind of a fascinating hypothetical to.

1260
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 9: Think about, you know if you look at the years

1261
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 9: that two, JUST had, i mean they don't even, you

1262
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 9: know pale in comparison to. Each other and this is

1263
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 9: the difficulty of. THE giraffe, i mean just LOOK at,

1264
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 9: i mean you you Know The heisman trophy more than

1265
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 9: anybody in terms of the history. OF it, i mean

1266
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 9: How Many heisman trophy quarterbacks just gone on to have

1267
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 9: Just nothing.

1268
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 3: Burgers in terms OF their. Nfl careers, you know it's

1269
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 3: just kind.

1270
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 9: Of WILD and i Do, think mendoza while the offensive

1271
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 9: line probably has. SOME questions i everything he walks into

1272
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 9: it actually a. Decent, spot yes it's a, tough division

1273
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 9: but you're giving him a top ten picker at a

1274
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 9: top fifteen pick a tight end and, you know an

1275
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 9: off of the mind the head coach that, you know

1276
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 9: just helped Throw The Rex sam, darnold's career so, you

1277
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 9: know that's a nice place. TO start i get It's

1278
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 9: the raiders and there's a negative connotation that comes, with

1279
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 9: that but, YOU know i do think there are a

1280
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 9: lot of promising elements to what he's walking into around,

1281
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 9: him offensively.

1282
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: You Know The kevin mendoza in the way that. IT'S

1283
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: interesting I see mendoza's ceiling Is Like, jared GOFF and

1284
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,479
Speaker 1: i don't say that because they both played at cal

1285
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 1: RIGHT and i see the floor for him as Like

1286
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: A kirk cousins And, but MENDOZA and i don't mean

1287
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: to sound too Overly like X's and o's, guy here

1288
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: but you tell ME if i miss Reading this mendoza

1289
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: and the Way that, indiana offense the way that. Offense

1290
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: ran the thing to me that was so impressive was

1291
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: how quickly he could get the. Ball out but for,

1292
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 1: THAT reason, i WONDER or i worry IF he i

1293
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: ever had to go through the depth of read or

1294
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: progression and the amount of time that he will have

1295
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: to IN. The nfl is that me simply like listening

1296
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: to way too much.

1297
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 10: Analytical, SPEAK no, I mean i think you're probably, you

1298
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 10: know deep Into, the hey let's Evaluate For, nanda mendoza

1299
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 10: raiders scouts and, you know after heaping praise on him for,

1300
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 10: twenty minutes then now it's time to talk about the,

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01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 10: you know one or two.

1302
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 3: Minute questions you do.

1303
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 9: HAVE them, i mean we didn't see it a Lot,

1304
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 9: at INDIANA but i do think when there was some duress,

1305
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 9: around him, you know like ninety nine point nine percent,

1306
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 9: of quarterbacks obviously there were.

1307
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 3: Some questions, you know Certainly the national title.

1308
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 9: Game was not a banner game for him throwing, the football,

1309
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 9: you know and, you know he obviously made some big

1310
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 9: plays in the, fourth quarter and some of that was

1311
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 9: with his legs and that's part of playing quarterback. As

1312
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 9: well but you know that would be. A, question again

1313
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 9: going back TO what i was saying about raiders off,

1314
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 9: asive line you obviously have some. Concern there and, you

1315
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 9: know when you're in a division and you look At

1316
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 9: the broncos, pass rush and you look At the chargers,

1317
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 9: pass rush and you look at Even What kansas city

1318
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 9: has produced, at times you know that will be a

1319
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 9: definite question for him of it's not as clean. Around

1320
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 9: him and the Advantages that indiana walked into clearly quite

1321
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 9: often in his one, year there you know that's obviously

1322
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 9: not going to be the case AT an. Nfl level,

1323
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 9: so yeah those could be probably some of the questions

1324
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 9: that you, Do.

1325
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: Have, Kevin lastly i'm curious did you? GO up I

1326
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 1: know caleb from here went up to Go See notre

1327
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 1: Dame and Duke In.

1328
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 2: South bend did You, go.

1329
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 3: No just a bummer to miss.

1330
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 9: That one really ashamed not to. Be, There Yeah chris

1331
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,959
Speaker 9: Soward and Chang styke in were late Talkers on tuesday

1332
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 9: OR else i would have been their, front center.

1333
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 2: Could have left early and. Beat.

1334
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 9: Traffic, yeah yes indeed a little Different Than great RAGSHAW

1335
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 9: and i staying for. Double overtime i'll never forget the

1336
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 9: Look on rake's face when the horn went off to

1337
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 9: indicate a, second OVERTIME and i, FELT like i don't

1338
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 9: Know if i've asked anyone this in my life since

1339
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 9: my parents at a.

1340
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 3: Young AGE and i had to Look at.

1341
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 9: Rake, and say do you think we could stay for?

1342
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 9: One more and, you know great looks at his thirty

1343
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 9: six year old steps on and very very reluctantly, Said.

1344
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: Yes, Hey kevin, i'm lastly, you know with the and

1345
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: great work At the combine all, week OBVIOUSLY and i

1346
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 1: know That the combine carries over through the weekend and

1347
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna be out there doing, those things but, You

1348
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: know i'm curious for, me personally the day or the

1349
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: week After the indy five hundred is a combination of

1350
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: a deep breath but also kind of like this letdown

1351
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: because it's just been this energy ride of you KNOW what,

1352
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: i mean adrenaline for like ten.

1353
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 2: Straight days do you feel the same when the? Combine?

1354
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 11: LEAVES no, I mean i Like the combine more than

1355
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 11: a lot of others in our, media Industry but i'm

1356
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 11: not going to compare one one second to the to

1357
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 11: the Month of may and what.

1358
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 3: And what THE electure.

1359
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 9: I look at the combine and the weather speaking to,

1360
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 9: ME today i just look at it as it's one

1361
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 9: step closer, to spring and it's one step closer to

1362
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 9: us not having to debate the same things we've debated

1363
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 9: for the. LAST month i mean that's AND that, I

1364
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 9: mean i'm being totally honest. With it, Of, like okay Here's.

1365
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 9: The combine, oh wow, Next, week oh franchise tag. Deadlines,

1366
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 9: too oh the next week. It's freegency. Oh wow the

1367
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 9: Next week's. March madness, it's like.

1368
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 7: Let's.

1369
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 3: Go oh two weeks later Is?

1370
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 9: The, masters oh NOW The, nfl, draft like and then

1371
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 9: it's a Month. OF may, I MEAN i i feel

1372
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 9: and and the PACER's unfortunate situation are is contributing to

1373
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 9: it at least, For Me like i'm just ready to

1374
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 9: kind of start getting things into a little bit more,

1375
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 9: real gear if, you will like again, Actual, Answers.

1376
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 1: So kevin i'm, telling, you, though man last night and that,

1377
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: Last night i'm at, the game and.

1378
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 4: It.

1379
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: Amazes me at ONE point i, looked up it's, Mid

1380
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 1: fourth they're down, twenty eight and no one. Had left

1381
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 1: there had to be seventeen thousand people there.

1382
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 2: Last night. It's, crazy YEAH and i felt.

1383
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 9: That WAY and i, don't Know maybe sunday was more

1384
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 9: of kind of a kid to night because it was

1385
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 9: a five, o'clock tip but, you know it Felt like

1386
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 9: sunday's crowd was kind of like that.

1387
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,560
Speaker 3: As, well YEAH and i don't think. WE'RE in i.

1388
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 9: DON'T know i don't think everyone's There For, LaMelo Ball

1389
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 9: brandon Miller And, tom kinnipple although with how they played,

1390
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 9: last NIGHT and i could. See, WHY yeah, i mean

1391
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 9: the crowd's continue to be great, for HIM and i,

1392
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 9: would assume, You know sunday would be similar.

1393
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: For Him, All right kevin enjoy.

1394
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: The weekend we will continue to look for the coverage

1395
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: and be listening next week as well On The Fan

1396
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: morning show seven until ten each and every Morning With,

1397
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: james Boyd jeff Rickert and Kevin bow and, Appreciate. It

1398
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: kevin nice Seeing Drec kevin bowen joining us on. THE

1399
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: program i, do have by, the Way and i'm excited.

1400
01:11:56,120 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: About this just confirm this one a really. Cool story.

1401
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 2: At about.

1402
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: Two, fifteen now typically we do our good For the

1403
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 1: heart Feel good fridays at, two thirty but we have

1404
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: really important stuff to get To from franciscan health at.

1405
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: Two thirty so just, Before that i'm gonna talk to

1406
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: a coach with high school basketball.

1407
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: In the news and seasons winding down in the.

1408
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: Regular season really cool STORY that i saw last week

1409
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 1: and reached out to the coach and, he, SAID man

1410
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 1: i would love to let people know about the young

1411
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: player that we're. Talking ABOUT and, i said let's. Do

1412
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: it so, two fifteen that'll happen when we. COME back

1413
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 1: i have, Potentially, Now eddie i've done this line of work.

1414
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 2: For what twenty.

1415
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: Not quite twenty years on the, radio Side but i've been,

1416
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: you Know an indianapolis sports media member for twenty twenty.

1417
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 2: Five, YEARS whatever i am a little.

1418
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: BIT worried i oftentimes say, to people this is going

1419
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: to be the dumbest question you've ever. Been asked you've

1420
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: heard me say, That, before, eddie correct this is going

1421
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 1: to be the dumbest question you've ever. BEEN asked, i

1422
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: indeed and usually PEOPLE and i think they're just. Being

1423
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: folksy and that's what people say about me. A lot,

1424
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: YOU know i go out and, people say, you know you're.

1425
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: JUST folksy i, am, folksy RIGHT but i think people

1426
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: are being folksy when especially those that are far SMARTER,

1427
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: than i which are most, YOU know, i mean my

1428
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 1: four hundred and eighty second was my class rank At.

1429
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: Nor central AND so i think people are being folksy when, they're,

1430
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 1: like no that's not a dumb question. At all but our,

1431
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: Next guest i'm a little bit CONCERNED because i have

1432
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 1: a Question that i'm dying to, ask him AND yet

1433
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 1: i worry that there's going to be no. In between

1434
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: it's either going to be you, Know, what jake that's,

1435
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: rather insightful or it's going TO be i am completely

1436
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: insulted that you would, ask that and don't ask me

1437
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: back on your program, ever again because that's the dumbest,

1438
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: question legitimately not Only that i've ever, been Asked, but

1439
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 1: jake that you have ever asked in.

1440
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 2: Your career it's gonna go one of. Two Ways But.

1441
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: Ralph reef is obviously not only more intellectual than myself but,

1442
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: very FOLKSY and i do have questions WITH an nba

1443
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: player returning from an achilles the same injury that we

1444
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: Saw For. Tyrese haliburton with, that injury does that mean

1445
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: that we have forecasts better Understanding For Tyrese Haliburton ralph

1446
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Speaker 1: freefill joined us to.

1447
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Speaker 2: Answer, That next.

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Speaker 1: I'll admit to the fact that with most songs that

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Speaker 1: sample something THAT heavily i Love were Wolves. OF london

1450
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Speaker 1: i get that this is a good rolldown, the radio

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Speaker 1: rolled on the window song, for SURE but i have

1452
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: to admit That were Wolves of london enjoy. Every sandwich

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Speaker 1: joining us now on, the program he is On The

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Speaker 1: their cafes whether it be coffee or food that you,

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Speaker 1: are ordering if you order through the app And use jacob,

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Speaker 1: twenty five you will get twenty five percent off of

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Speaker 1: your order when you. Are there ralphrief joining us on. The,

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Speaker 1: PROGRAM ralph i wanted to begin, with This and i'm. Warning,

1461
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: You okay i'm, warning you and you can. Feel free

1462
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: YOU and i have known each other for a, while

1463
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 1: now and you've always been candid, and honest which. Is

1464
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 1: appreciated i'm going to ask you a question in this

1465
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: Conversation that i'm fully prepared for you to tell me

1466
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: is not only the dumbest question that you've ever, been

1467
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 1: asked but the dumbest Question that i've ever asked in this.

1468
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 2: Illustrious, Career Okay.

1469
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: So i'm warning you right now that ahead, of TIME

1470
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 1: but i wanted to get your thoughts. On this we

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01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,759
Speaker 1: have seen now two players IN, the nba one Being

1472
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: De jonte Murray In, new orleans who is a similar

1473
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: style of Play. Of Tyre's, halibert now he had an

1474
01:15:56,400 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: achilles Injury in january of, last year so thirteen, months

1475
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: ago and he has now returned to. Full competition and

1476
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: then You Have jason Tatum and boston that had his

1477
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: at the end of or When was tatum's, Injury, exactly eddie?

1478
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 4: Wasn't it it's probably like a month before, tyrese.

1479
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: Okay and he has now returned to some simulations of five.

1480
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 2: On five that gives me hope.

1481
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: And Optimism but i'm curious from, your standpoint can we

1482
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: even read into that or is it literally every case.

1483
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 7: Is, different well it's good to be, With, you jake,

1484
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 7: and yes certainly every case, is different, like fingerprints people's

1485
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 7: biology and everything else is a little. Bit, different however

1486
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 7: you can certainly map what's going On with Murray With

1487
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 7: new Orleans and tatum With the celtics, to, Say hey

1488
01:16:56,240 --> 01:17:01,679
Speaker 7: tyrese should really be in a good position from a

1489
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 7: basketball readiness by the time camp opens in the in

1490
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 7: the in the. Early fall, so yeah thirteen Months for

1491
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 7: tyrese would be the End, of july AND so i

1492
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 7: think he all things indicate that he'll he'll be in

1493
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 7: that team same Timeframe.

1494
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 2: As marie when The achilles I'm Assuming Ralph.

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Speaker 1: R E I F F ralph reef, Dot. Com ralph

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Speaker 1: the the achilles is, you know we've seen more of.

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Speaker 1: These lately it would seem maybe we're just more in tune.

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Speaker 2: To it.

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Speaker 1: But it is such An important it goes without saying

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01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 1: ligament or tendon if, you will in the back of.

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01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 1: One's foot once, it heals is there is there risk

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01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 1: of again complication or does it heal even stronger if?

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01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: You will does that make Sense what?

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01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 2: I'm, asking yeah.

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01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 7: It does and the structure itself when it, heals back

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01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 7: the body has a tendency to over heal. Or overcompensate

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01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 7: so so the area of the of the ligament if

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01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 7: it becomes, somewhat thicker and and that doesn't necessarily mean

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01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 7: it's stronger because a lot of that thickness comes from

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01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 7: scar tissue that really doesn't add anything from a. Performance

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01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 7: standpoint it's just extra layers. Of glue and, so yeah

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01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 7: it does come back or grow back stronger from the

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Speaker 7: standpoint of the amount of tissue.

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Speaker 1: That's, there Okay now i'm going to. Brace myself here

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Speaker 1: are you, Sitting? Down ralph just out? Of curiosity you're

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01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 1: not driving a car, right now?

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01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 2: Are?

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01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 3: You, no okay good enough.

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01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 1: Safe positions you might want to go straight into a

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01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 1: bridge ABUTMENT when i ask. This, One OKAY so i

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01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: WAS when i. Turned fifty, YOU know i get the notification. From,

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01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: whoever hey you know it's time to think about the

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01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 1: get your shot for the. Shingles VACCINE and, i, Oh

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Speaker 1: OKAY and i THINK i've i had heard, of shingles

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01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: maybe once or twice or, whatever else AND then i

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01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: became more familiar with it because it's kind of on.

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01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 1: The radar AND what i know, is this and my

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01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: understanding would be vague, at best but my understanding is,

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01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 1: that shingles which is the same virus that creates the

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01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: chicken pox that when you, get shingles it attacks different

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01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: nerves within one's body and therefore it, is very, very

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01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 1: painful AND so, i, Thought okay AND then i Read

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01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: That tyrese halliburton, has SHINGLES and i immediately thought, to

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Speaker 1: myself if this is an illness that compromises and or in,

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01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: my mind attacks, nerve endings does that mean that it

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01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 1: also finds some so sort of vulnerability in areas that

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01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: are trying to, repair itself and because they're, bad guys

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01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,719
Speaker 1: they go after that. As well so my, question Became

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01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 1: Does tyrese haliburton having shingles in any way potentially negatively

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01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: impact the timeline of his body being able to repair?

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01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 1: His ACHILLES and I thought i Should ask ralph that

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01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: except for that one's attendant and then we're talking, about

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01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 1: nerves AND now i look like.

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01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: An, idiot.

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01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 7: Well your question to me just indicates that you have

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01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 7: a very. Active BRAIN.

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Speaker 2: Can i write this down as an? Official?

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01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 12: Diagnosis, yeah yeah THERE, YOU goab i SUFFER.

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01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 2: From bab very, Active, brain yes.

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01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 7: Very, active brain sitting around thinking what all could go on? And,

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01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:08,600
Speaker 7: spoil well so the easy answer is we In The

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01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 7: united states don't get too wound up. About illness, you

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01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 7: know everything gets caught up in, the muscular skeletal or

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01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 7: concussions when it comes to. Sports injuries and we can,

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01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 7: map out as we've done on this Segment, since august

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01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,680
Speaker 7: we can map out all kinds of protocols and timelines and,

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01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 7: so forth, but illness we just don't talk about illness

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01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 7: unless IT'S a covid pandemic or something of, that nature

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01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 7: or when your face of your franchise has shingles and

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01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 7: he's twenty five. Years old the, average age as, you

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01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 7: mentioned at age fifty is When the Center For disease

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01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 7: control And The World health organization everybody says that we

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01:21:54,439 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 7: should prevent shingles with some type of of antibodies and,

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01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 7: so forth and so this is this is unusual but

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01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 7: not but not crazy rare the. Shingles element does it

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01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 7: take away from? His, rehabilitation absolutely one. HUNDRED percent i

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01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:25,640
Speaker 7: can't imagine he's doing much right now and just trying to.

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01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:30,440
Speaker 7: Manage pain and any listeners out there who've had shingles

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01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 7: or somebody that they know has, had shingles it's. Extremely

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01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 7: unpleasant and so does it take away from THE timeline

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01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 7: i in. My opinion yes, It, Does.

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01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 2: Jake okay. Does it i'm going to. USE it i

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01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 2: hate to use, This.

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01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 1: Word ralph and by, The, way ralph let me begin,

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01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 1: by saying, selfishly speaking thank you for. Saying that that's

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01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: not the dumbest Question that i've ever asked on, the

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01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 1: Radio because i've asked some whoppers in. My Day so

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01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:00,639
Speaker 1: i'm just going to chalk it up to very. Active,

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01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: brain yeah but there. You go But so i'm, curious

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01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:08,839
Speaker 1: though when you say that it could, impact him because

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01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 1: obviously it is taking, you know in, other words he's

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01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 1: been studying for a geometry exam now for ten months

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01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: and then all of, a sudden without, knowing, it boom

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01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: he gets hit With an, english assignment and so that

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01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 1: takes away from what he can study. In geometry but

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01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 1: is there any possibility that the virus itself would, Immediately recognize,

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01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 1: oh wow here we have a we have a tendon

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01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 1: that's not one. Hundred percent let's go and see if

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01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 1: we can't move in there as well and become dwellers within.

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01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,799
Speaker 1: That tendon that's not going to be, the, Case, correct now.

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Speaker 7: This is going to stay within the, nervous system and it,

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01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 7: primarily stays the virus stays pretty close to the, spinal

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01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 7: column and most of the inflammation that people get with

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01:23:56,200 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 7: shingles through a nerve ROOT or uh an area that

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01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 7: comes out of, the spine and so his achilles should

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01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 7: not be affected, by this, you know the virus extending

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01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 7: to that area and creating some type of internal infection

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01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 7: or something of that nature that that is not. A

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01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 7: possibility what what it, does though is you know sort of, think,

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01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 7: Of hey i'm doing fine and and all of, A

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01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 7: sudden i've Got a i've got, the flu, AND man

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01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 7: i just don't have. Much energy and so that's the

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01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 7: way his body is, right now is everything's been focused

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01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 7: on the achilles tendon and and now, the body the

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01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 7: biology of the body has to really divert the energies

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01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 7: back to the shingles and what it really. Sets back

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01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 7: and there's always two ways of looking. At THIS and

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Speaker 7: i have no idea OF his uh, daily ROUTINE but

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Speaker 7: i have to imagin because of where he is as,

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01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 7: an athlete he's probably been very, very aggressive, very compliant

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01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 7: but very active. In activities so one thing to think,

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01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 7: about this, you know sort of a silver lining could

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01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 7: be that he's forced to take. Some rest and that's

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01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,719
Speaker 7: that's one way of looking. At THIS but I think

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01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 7: i think there's more downside to, this setback uh than

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01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 7: that there. Is upside and you KNOW there's i said

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01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 7: this is, it's rare but it's not. Unheard of there's

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Speaker 7: the factors of why why does something like? This happen

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01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 7: is it's not, just well let's just toss it away

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01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 7: as a childhood infection that was laying dormant and it

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01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 7: just he just rolled the bad luck. Roulette wheel stress

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01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 7: is a big deal in this and that's WHY during

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01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 7: covid they're extraordinarily high number of cases of SHINGLES during

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01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 7: covid because people. Were worried, you know YOU get covid

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01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 7: and you wonder if you're going, to live and so

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01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 7: there's an amount, of stress mental stress that goes along.

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01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 7: With US and i Have a that's what all the

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01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 7: indications would say is that here's a guy who's been

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01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 7: away from. His team, you know they haven't won much.

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01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 7: This year, you know he could just be carrying that

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01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 7: stress mentally at a, low level even, though gosh he's,

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01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 7: an outgoing smiling kind of guy and a great. Bench

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01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 7: guy from, my observation but, you know the secrets that

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01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 7: we all keep right about what our mental state of,

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01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 7: mind is and so those kinds.

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Speaker 3: Of things one way of.

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01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 7: Looking, at this those of us in healthcare, would say

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01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 7: is this a red flag that this particular athlete is

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01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 7: not handling this as well As the albert appearance might

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01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 7: tell all. Of us and so something from a stress

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01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 7: standpoint triggered the reactivation of, This virus and those are

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01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,600
Speaker 7: the things that a healthcare team would look at to

1645
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 7: just make sure they can try to take care of

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01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 7: it so it doesn't reoccur over the course of.

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01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 1: His career and that was the OTHER question, i HAD

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01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 1: and i realized, that you're, you know an athletic, skeletal

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01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 1: trainer not necessarily an epidemiologist.

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01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 2: Per se but.

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01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 1: When one has shingles and then eventually their body wards,

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01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 1: it off are you done then? With it or does

1653
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: it just go back to dormancy until it decides to

1654
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 1: come out and.

1655
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 2: Play again.

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01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 7: From my understanding, of it it's one of those things

1657
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 7: that it's a neighbor that just stays there and you

1658
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 7: don't know when they're going to open the door and,

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01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 7: walk out and so it's lazy.

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01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 2: And dormancy, You know i've actually had several people out

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01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 2: next door to you that felt that way. About me

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01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 2: to be honest, with you it's my very active brain

1663
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 2: that comes, into. Play right they just never Know what

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01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 2: i'm going to pop in where things, Go, right ralph

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01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 2: appreciate the time.

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01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 1: As always you're headed down for watching a little racing,

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01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: this weekend are, You, not.

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01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 7: Yeah Heading To, saint. Pete IndyCar here.

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01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 2: WE go i, love it.

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01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 1: All right, well listen enjoy. The race there, We, Go,

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01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 1: eddie yes, all right that'll be here before.

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01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 2: We know we Walked Along pitt roads before we, know

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01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 2: it out at Sixteenth. To. Georgetown ralph appreciate the time

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01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 2: and perspective.

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01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 4: As, Always, Yes, eddie ralph have a quick question before

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01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 4: you actually have you ever contributed to the medical testing at?

1677
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 4: The Combine because i've always been fascinating with this because

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01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 4: one of the big sticking points that we always hear

1679
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 4: about is the Benefit of indianapolis. As well they have

1680
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 4: this uncanny ability to get these medical testing results turned over,

1681
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 4: to prospects, to, scouts teams et cetera within such a

1682
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 4: time with me in a have you ever been a part?

1683
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 4: Of it in b, if not how do they go

1684
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 4: about it?

1685
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 7: So, QUICKLY yeah i was a part of it one

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01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 7: YEAR when i Was at butler Before My Saint vincent

1687
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 7: day's and it's an extraordinary symphony of a lot. Of

1688
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 7: characters THEY use MRIs all over the region and imaging and,

1689
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 7: so forth but it's really the folks THAT At iu

1690
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 7: health that really drive, this machine and. They're there it's

1691
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 7: a commitment all the way up TO the ceo to

1692
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 7: make sure that that equipment is available and the quick

1693
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 7: turnarounds the data.

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01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 3: That's involved you.

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01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:30,560
Speaker 7: Just think of the massive transfer of data and information

1696
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 7: and and getting people FROM point a TO point b

1697
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 7: and and running those machines around. The clock it's an

1698
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 7: extraordinarily well. Oiled machine to overuse, that cliche but that's

1699
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 7: over and. Over again everybody within the healthcare community in

1700
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 7: all sports just sort of marvels At what indianapolis's. Medical community,

1701
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 7: AND Again iu health is really the center of the

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01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 7: heartbeat of that.

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01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 1: Whole operation and, You, Know ralph i've asked, this before

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01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 1: but because of all of the variety of different outstanding

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01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 1: health groups that we Have In, central, INDIANA right, i

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01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 1: mean WE obviously i can speak to the level of

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01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 1: Care That franciscan. Health provides we work with them. Very

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01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 1: closely do you HAVE ascension I? YOU health I you

1709
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 1: health is very close. To downtown to go back, to

1710
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 1: that is it a group effort in terms of where

1711
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 1: all the different athletes are, being examined of kind of

1712
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 1: an all hands, on deck all star team of all

1713
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 1: of the different resources we.

1714
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 2: Have, here.

1715
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 7: Well there's there's a team that's that does it year.

1716
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 7: Over year and, and yes they they come from, different

1717
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 7: employers a lot, of technicians, YOU know x, ray technicians

1718
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 7: imagery tech that really are the ones who make it.

1719
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 7: All happen and but but to, The collaboration you've got

1720
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 7: to remember there's very few industries that are as competitive

1721
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 7: as major, healthcare industry so they don't they don't like to.

1722
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:22,639
Speaker 7: Share much and but but the people who work within

1723
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 7: those brands love to collaborate and love. To help and

1724
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 7: so it's a lot of, athletic trainers, e, mts, paramedics,

1725
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 7: physicians techts it's, data analyst medical, records operations it's it's

1726
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 7: quite an army.

1727
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 2: Of people ralph appreciate, the time has. Always enjoyed it's sunny,

1728
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 2: here today but it's.

1729
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 1: Not gonna be that way, all weekend so you'll, be in,

1730
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 1: you know soaking it all In In saint pete and

1731
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 1: we look forward.

1732
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 2: To talking to.

1733
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 3: You, again okay, take care.

1734
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: Ralphree for our friend joining us on. The program we'll

1735
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 1: come back to take a quick recess cool story coming up.

1736
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 1: To fifteen And then franciscan helped feel good good for.

1737
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:05,600
Speaker 1: The heart bottom of, the, Hour, now eddie when we

1738
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 1: look at, the temperature if you look at, your phone

1739
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 1: it always has the temperature and then it says what it,

1740
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:12,720
Speaker 1: feels LIKE which i, always, say like what the hell does?

1741
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:14,600
Speaker 1: THAT mean i want to know, the temperature what it.

1742
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 1: Feels like that don't tell me it's eighty if it

1743
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 1: feels like thirty eight? Right RIGHT so i want to

1744
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,600
Speaker 1: know what the temperature. LOOKS like i have not looked at.

1745
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 1: THE temperature i don't want you to look. RIGHT now

1746
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 1: i want you to simply turn to, your right look

1747
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:30,440
Speaker 1: out the window at the beautiful blue Skies, Of. Indianapolis

1748
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 1: indiana as we look at the seventy sixty, five exchange

1749
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 1: which is moving very, very freely it looks like what outside?

1750
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 4: Right, Now well i've been seeing some cars drive with their,

1751
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 4: Windows down so, to me that tells me it's at least.

1752
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 4: Over fifty, YOU know i think it LOOKS like i

1753
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 4: was Talking to landa about, This. Earlier jake he made

1754
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 4: a great point that fifty in, You, Know, february oh it's.

1755
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 2: Like seventy if it's fifty Fifty, in october they're sold

1756
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:03,679
Speaker 2: out a hot chocolate At the friday end. Football, game,

1757
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 2: yeah yes.

1758
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 1: NO question i think when you look outside right now

1759
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 1: and you can tell there's no leaves on one of,

1760
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 1: the trees so, you're, like okay.

1761
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 2: The ADJUSTMENT.

1762
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,600
Speaker 1: But i think right now it looks like a SOLID

1763
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 1: and i have this weird shitting now do you have

1764
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 1: your phone in front?

1765
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 2: Of you don't don't tell. Me, That okay i'm looking

1766
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 2: right now.

1767
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 1: Seeing a. Gentleman walk looks like he does have a.

1768
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 1: Jacket on he's got an odd gait and a weird.

1769
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 1: Giddy up, So Maybe, Joe copple i'm going to go

1770
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 1: with sixty, four degrees you're a. Little high fifty, eight

1771
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:47,680
Speaker 1: close like. Super close seven fifty, nine okay, not bad

1772
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 1: not bad. At, ALL right i was up by, five

1773
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: DEGREES but i, went over so by price is, RIGHT

1774
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 1: rules i lose also went over right now in terms

1775
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 1: of the fact that we'll be right back and really

1776
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 1: cool story In twenty, you KNOW when i was, A

1777
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 1: kid i was under, the assumption the false assumption That

1778
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 1: The beach boys were kind of a and before people, are,

1779
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:12,680
Speaker 1: like what let me finish my. THOUGHT here i was

1780
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 1: under this false impression That The beach boys were some

1781
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 1: sort of a put together, boy band, you know just

1782
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 1: like a because they were kind of a gimmicky, you

1783
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 1: Know The, beach boys right, and EVERYTHING surfing usa and

1784
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 1: that kind.

1785
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,640
Speaker 2: Of stuff, and obviously THEN.

1786
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: As i got older and read more, about it talk

1787
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 1: to people whatever bre else clearly one of the most

1788
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 1: influential and artistic and absolutely perfect melodic bands of, all

1789
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 1: Time And pet sounds is one of the probably ten

1790
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 1: most influential albums in the history. Of music, FABULOUS band

1791
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 1: a good. Selection there good afternoon to you On, a

1792
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 1: friday that is. Absolutely gorgeous somebody just sent me a

1793
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 1: screen grab of their dash that said sixty four.

1794
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 2: Degrees baby not always a.

1795
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 4: Hals me, it's like why does my phone say it's

1796
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 4: fifty nine but my dash says it's.

1797
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 1: SIXTY four i think part of that is if your

1798
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 1: car has been sitting in the sun for, a, While,

1799
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 1: right yeah perhaps you KNOW what. I, Mean now i'm

1800
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:12,879
Speaker 1: also showing fifty nine When it's.

1801
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 4: April thirtieth what are we looking at Weatherwise on? April

1802
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:19,719
Speaker 4: thirtieth oh.

1803
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 1: Clear sky it's gonna be. Like this it's gonna. Be

1804
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:25,479
Speaker 1: perfect and, YOU know i don't. KNOW this i don't

1805
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 1: know what the temperature, will Be but i'll bet we'll

1806
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 1: hear the number four a couple. Of, times really why is?

1807
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 1: That well because somebody will hit an. Errant shot i'm

1808
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 1: talking About The Fan invitational. Golf outing talk about you

1809
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 1: or send It By. Franciscan Health. Probably BOWEN oh I.

1810
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 4: Doubt bowen he's a.

1811
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 1: Premier, golfer no but if you, hit four that means

1812
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 1: that it is going far enough that it might interrupt

1813
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 1: somebody's game on a different hole or further down, the

1814
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 1: line And neither JAMIE. AND i, i mean an errant

1815
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 1: shot for us is going to go eight feet to the.

1816
01:35:56,280 --> 01:36:00,600
Speaker 1: Left Right Legends, Golf club, april thirtieth ten thirty in

1817
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 1: the morning until. Five o'clock we'll be out. There broadcasting

1818
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 1: we had a ton of fun with this, last year

1819
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 1: and one of the great things about it As Well

1820
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 1: franciscan health and their contribution. To this all of the

1821
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 1: proceeds are Benefiting The Franciscan, health foundation but they're going

1822
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 1: to have out there their people to be able to

1823
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:19,600
Speaker 1: talk to you answer questions you might have for the

1824
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:24,440
Speaker 1: different health things screening that can, take place but notably

1825
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 1: and of course all about golf and whether you want

1826
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 1: a forsome or individual either one right now early bird

1827
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 1: special for the next week twenty five dollars off per

1828
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 1: person or one hundred dollars off, per foursome and we're

1829
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 1: doing This in april. For twofold number one helps to

1830
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 1: Know that may is right on. The horizon and number

1831
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 1: two get you in golf season mode as opposed to,

1832
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 1: you know last year we did, it late which, was

1833
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 1: great but it was a little hotter. This time kick

1834
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 1: off your golf season. With us we would love to

1835
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 1: see You on. April thirtieth all of the information available

1836
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 1: on our website one oh seven five fan. Dot com

1837
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 1: Speaking of franciscan it Is A franciscan health feel good

1838
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 1: good for The. Hard friday typically at TWO thirty i

1839
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 1: share a story, with You but i'm gonna have.

1840
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 2: A guest in about ten minutes.

1841
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 1: With a story that we will talk ABOUT that i

1842
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:16,720
Speaker 1: saw in the last couple of WEEKS that i just

1843
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 1: thought was super cool and it to me represented exactly what,

1844
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 1: YOU know i want from this segment and the stories

1845
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 1: that we share and the people that we get to.

1846
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 1: Hear from so we'll do that coming up in about,

1847
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 1: ten minutes and then we have good Discussion from franciscan

1848
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 1: coming up bottom of the hour. As well but last

1849
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 1: night at The, Field house pacers And, the hornets that is.

1850
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 1: A game charlotte is an interesting team to me Because

1851
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:49,479
Speaker 1: the hornets are a team that you don't think a.

1852
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 1: Lot about they seemingly are kind OF this i guess,

1853
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:57,520
Speaker 1: YOU'D say i don't want to say totally, obscure franchise

1854
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:01,600
Speaker 1: but they've certainly been mired in total mediocrity for a

1855
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:05,600
Speaker 1: number of years and high draft picks and, you know

1856
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 1: you hit, on some you miss, on some but yet

1857
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 1: kind of quietly they put together this team that's. Pretty

1858
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 1: competitive and last night there were a couple of things

1859
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 1: that happened At the fieldhouse that caught. My attention number one, Of.

1860
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 1: Them eddie we SAW an nba rookie record set.

1861
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 2: Last, Night correct that.

1862
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 4: Is Correct Kan kin nipple set the rookie record for

1863
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:33,799
Speaker 4: most threes in, a Season Passing.

1864
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 2: Keegan murray and he has a very.

1865
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:41,679
Speaker 1: Effortless shot and for a guy that is a rookie

1866
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 1: and a young player coming Out, of duke, you know

1867
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 1: he plays the game. VERY poised, i mean he does not.

1868
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 1: Rush things he kind of lets it come. To Him

1869
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 1: and i've never been a huge Fan of LaMelo and

1870
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 1: i don't Know That LaMelo ball is the kind of

1871
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 1: player that makes his. Teammates better but he is a streak.

1872
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:15,920
Speaker 2: Shooter type he shoots one, footed threes which kind of throws.

1873
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:19,680
Speaker 2: Me off pretty good court vision.

1874
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 1: The Guy That and i've loved this guy as a

1875
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 1: player since he was.

1876
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 2: In college and there's A reason i bring.

1877
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 1: It up WHY am i turning on the Radio, In

1878
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 1: indianapolis indiana and the guy's debating whether it's sixty four

1879
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 1: or fifty nine and then talking About The.

1880
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 2: Charlotte, Hornets well i'll tell. You why.

1881
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 1: Charlotte reminds me a little Bit of indiana of a

1882
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 1: couple of. Years ago i'm not saying that that Means

1883
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 1: the hornets are on the precipice of BECOMING An nba.

1884
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:50,639
Speaker 1: Finals team but if you go back even To The

1885
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 1: reggie miller choke Against the, knicks era and then, after

1886
01:39:57,280 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 1: that if you go and you look at the, you

1887
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 1: know this, particular group both of them represent, one thing

1888
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 1: and that is that it all came together before our.

1889
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:13,640
Speaker 1: Very eyes and that Group That reggie miller had that

1890
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 1: suddenly got into the playoffs and found themselves Going into

1891
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 1: game seven In The Eastern conference finals With the knicks

1892
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:21,799
Speaker 1: and was the first ever team to win a playoff

1893
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 1: Series in indiana when They. Defeated orlando, you know they

1894
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 1: were five games under five hundred midway through, the year

1895
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 1: and then all of, a sudden they just figured out

1896
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 1: how to play with one another and it jeled together

1897
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 1: and they were. Really good and the same is true

1898
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:42,680
Speaker 1: of this particular group last year. In particular you look

1899
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 1: at it and, you go they're playing at a level

1900
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 1: going into. THE playoffs, i mean when, they're clicking they're

1901
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 1: as good. As anybody and then it all. Came Together,

1902
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 1: and halliburton as fabulous as, he Is and siakam as

1903
01:40:56,640 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 1: unbelievable as, he is a lot of what carried, them was,

1904
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 1: you know the Contribution Of, obi toppin who we haven't

1905
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:05,559
Speaker 1: talked a lot about last night because he did get on.

1906
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 1: The floor it was good to see him back. Out,

1907
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: there uh he was clearly on kind of a, minute

1908
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 1: restriction but you know.

1909
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 4: He will be for the rest of. The, SEASON yeah i.

1910
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 1: Mean they're gonna. Take that there's no reason to put him.

1911
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:17,760
Speaker 1: Out there, you know there are number of reasons to limit.

1912
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:21,599
Speaker 1: His minutes he played eight. Last Night but aaron nismis

1913
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 1: outside shooting in stretches was so big for them during the.

1914
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:26,720
Speaker 1: Playoff run there were so. MANY areas i don't have

1915
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:29,160
Speaker 1: to go over all. Of That and charlotte looks that

1916
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 1: way to me and the guy that is the real.

1917
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 1: Rising star and it's not like this happened just. Last

1918
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 1: night he's been a very good player. For Them brandon

1919
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 1: miller is such a. Unique player he REPRESENTS. Today's nba he's,

1920
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, six'. Nine six' ten then long, to USE

1921
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 1: that term but i noticed. A couple of possessions he

1922
01:41:56,000 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 1: had hit a three coming off a, curl and you

1923
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:02,599
Speaker 1: know every player now does the thing where they look

1924
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 1: at the bench, and they, do it you know whatever

1925
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 1: it is to let him know. They hit a three

1926
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 1: but you could feel that that you could see that

1927
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 1: kind of swag coming.

1928
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 2: Out of a guy and.

1929
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 1: He hit, a couple of them and then at one

1930
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:16,480
Speaker 1: point they came down did the, hornets on a possession

1931
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 1: and he went down and he was, kind of crouching

1932
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 1: down not Unlike The Crouch that kareem abdul jabbar had

1933
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 1: just Before He cold cocked, kent benson into irrelevance but

1934
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 1: kind of that. Sort of a crouch and he was

1935
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:34,920
Speaker 1: keeping like this low profile on the baseline and then,

1936
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:37,719
Speaker 1: All of a sudden LaMelo ball started to move a certain,

1937
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:41,679
Speaker 1: way and like, Wam Out of nowhere. BRANDON mello rises

1938
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 1: up i mean it was literally like a snake. Out

1939
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:45,519
Speaker 1: of the grass it's, like there he is and he's

1940
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 1: got the ball and in one movement pops up to,

1941
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:51,280
Speaker 1: flashes to, the top gets it turns quick release. Three

1942
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 1: AND it's in and i mention ALL of that because,

1943
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 1: i thought to myself This is what the pacers. Could

1944
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:04,840
Speaker 1: HAVE next year And i do believe i'm confident in

1945
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 1: saying that The pacers Between Aj debonsa And darren peterson

1946
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,719
Speaker 1: of kansas see it AS.

1947
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 2: One and One A it's Like Troy.

1948
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:22,719
Speaker 1: Lewis and Delray Brooks it's Like Jay edwards and lyndon

1949
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 1: jones co mister basketball stuff RIGHT on and one a

1950
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 1: or IN those cases ONE e and ONE j or

1951
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:36,560
Speaker 1: ONE b and one l as they were on the

1952
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 1: jerseys when they. Were come mister basketballs but they are

1953
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 1: neck and neck right now as to who's going to.

1954
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 1: Be number one overall but, what both of them, And

1955
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 1: notably for me debonsa IS the one that i, am

1956
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 1: Completely intrigued by and debonsa IS the one that i.

1957
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 1: Could not help Myself but in watching charlotte And Seeing

1958
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:00,559
Speaker 1: the way brandon miller moved and the way that he

1959
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 1: was able to shoot from the outside and, PULL out

1960
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 1: a defense i thought That is exactly what indiana could have.

1961
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 1: A Year, from now, and halliburton you know it, is

1962
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 1: fair to assume certainly by, this time next year, but

1963
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 1: by you know a month endo, the Year next year

1964
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:24,639
Speaker 1: that halliburton is out there on the, floor in some

1965
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 1: capacity and we don't know what kind of player.

1966
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 2: He's going.

1967
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 1: To be we don't We can Look At, murray in

1968
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 1: new orleans We can Look, at tatum and boston and

1969
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:36,599
Speaker 1: we can compare to that because they're the most Recent

1970
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,719
Speaker 1: bounced back from achilles. Players In the league but murray

1971
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:43,919
Speaker 1: is probably the more fair comp because of the position

1972
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 1: he has to play and the movement that. He has to,

1973
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 1: make but, either way you know it gives you indication

1974
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 1: or expectation as To where or what.

1975
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:57,920
Speaker 2: Halliburton could be.

1976
01:44:57,960 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 1: When he comes back but assuming, that he comes back,

1977
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 1: even at ninety percent and you get all of the,

1978
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 1: other pieces in play and you, add THAT last, night

1979
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 1: like i said just imagine What You.

1980
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:09,720
Speaker 2: Saw from brandon miller.

1981
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:15,719
Speaker 1: And because whoever It is, that the pacers get assuming

1982
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 1: they stay in one, of Those top four and i'm praying,

1983
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 1: to the, basketball, gods hear, me please Basketball gods keep

1984
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:27,080
Speaker 1: the pacers. In that top four if they get one,

1985
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:29,839
Speaker 1: of those two guys or really. One of those, four boozer,

1986
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:35,599
Speaker 1: for example, extremely skilled, extremely poised and, polished not as

1987
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 1: athletic Maybe not As much ceiling, And Wilson, the same

1988
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:45,640
Speaker 1: caleb wilson more explosive, on the block probably but, in,

1989
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:48,759
Speaker 1: terms of wing. Outside quick shooting three if they get either,

1990
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 1: of those two guys and you give it Next year

1991
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 1: to get halliburton reacclimated and get whoever that player is

1992
01:45:56,760 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 1: to understand their. Role on the wing that combination when

1993
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 1: you look at it and you let next year. All

1994
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 1: of that simmer and then in, The season following that siakam's,

1995
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 1: last year under contract And, You've got Ni Smith, you've

1996
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 1: got nim hard, you've got a Healthy, full year back

1997
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,840
Speaker 1: halliburton and you've got a second year player and. One

1998
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 1: of those guys it is impossible for me to not

1999
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 1: sit there and wonder and dream and think. About what

2000
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 1: could be it is simply impossible for me to not

2001
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 1: sit there and get lost in the moment of. What

2002
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 1: that might be and that's that was. My takeaway last

2003
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:46,400
Speaker 1: night and then you know the good news and AGAIN

2004
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 1: the other takeaway, i have from it and all. OF

2005
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:51,599
Speaker 1: this was happening I Realized Last, Night Perdue, michigan state

2006
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 1: michigan state And We talked to brandon gordon earlier in

2007
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 1: the show that conversation available will be. Available on the

2008
01:46:57,880 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 1: podcast we asked that You Wait till. After john show

2009
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 1: too of. Course Listen To, it but brandon gordon who

2010
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 1: was on, the call last night was talking about the

2011
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 1: fact of that game might have Been More about what

2012
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 1: michigan State did. Than what purdue did, not so to

2013
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,600
Speaker 1: speak but there just seems to be One. Piston misfiring

2014
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 1: for purdue but that game WAS taking place while I was,

2015
01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 1: at THE pacer game and i was looking, up AT

2016
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:18,599
Speaker 1: the crowd and i, was Seeing the, crowd and i'm

2017
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 1: like everybody knows this, team's won fifteen games they're down

2018
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:25,720
Speaker 1: twenty eight and there's, Like seventeen THOUSAND there and so

2019
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 1: i think people can see in that The upshot for

2020
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 1: the pacers and sports. Sometimes is about upshot and When

2021
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 1: We partnered with franciscan health and the, importance OF heart

2022
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:45,720
Speaker 1: health and I Thought of the franciscan health feel Good Good.

2023
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 1: FOR the heart friday i wanted to feature schools and

2024
01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 1: players that are doing things that. Make YOU feel good and.

2025
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:55,519
Speaker 1: I Saw a story rick simmler is. A really good

2026
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 1: dude known. Him a long time he is the dean

2027
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 1: of covering Sports Over in The Wall valley in tara

2028
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 1: hate and he had a post On the ex post

2029
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 1: twitter earlier this week, that caught my. EYE caught My

2030
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:08,759
Speaker 1: ear i called rick and he gave me a, background

2031
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 1: ON the, STORY and i said i need to share

2032
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 1: this with everybody because it's. What it's all about and

2033
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 1: it begins with the guy that joins. Us on the

2034
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 1: program now He Is On The java house. Colbrew Coffee

2035
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:21,760
Speaker 1: guest line brody crow is The Head Coach at shakamac

2036
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 1: high school and joins. Us, On, the program now. Coach how, Are.

2037
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:27,440
Speaker 3: YOU i'm good jake i appreciate.

2038
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 1: You, having, me on well listen you deserve to be

2039
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 1: on because this is AN awesome story and i want.

2040
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 1: To begin, with this you know you are part of

2041
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 1: a community that, you, grew up in right, that you

2042
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:42,639
Speaker 1: played in, and you're now coaching, and here you are

2043
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:45,479
Speaker 1: and you understand the importance especially. In a small town

2044
01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 1: how Many Kids Go? To shackamac high, school do you

2045
01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 1: know off the, top of your head.

2046
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:51,599
Speaker 3: Roughly roughly, just, about two hundred okay.

2047
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 1: About two hundred kids and, so, when that happens coach

2048
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:59,160
Speaker 1: you get groups of. Seniors that you, know in small

2049
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 1: towns even more so than, in the big schools they're

2050
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 1: more like a, family, WITH one another right. I mean

2051
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 1: they are you have guys playing basketball for you that

2052
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 1: are like brothers of one another because they've grown up

2053
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 1: and known each other from the pale leagues all the way,

2054
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 1: through the little leagues all, the way through right and

2055
01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:18,720
Speaker 1: absolutely and that includes a kid THAT moved in, As

2056
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 1: I understand it cam, pallen is his Name moved to

2057
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:24,760
Speaker 1: the shakamac community in the third grade and he was

2058
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 1: a hooper, back, In, the, Day right.

2059
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 12: Yeah yeah cameron was on his every one of his

2060
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:32,800
Speaker 12: elementary teams and his middle school teams coming, up through

2061
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:33,640
Speaker 12: the ranks.

2062
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:37,000
Speaker 1: And a point, guard, had, some handles. Right, yeah of

2063
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 1: course okay, now, here's the thing coach and. You run

2064
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 1: into this there are kids that are playing sports and

2065
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 1: then they get to a certain point where, all of

2066
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:50,680
Speaker 1: a sudden, they hit that ceiling right they just you

2067
01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 1: know that it happened for me midway THROUGH high, school where,

2068
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 1: i realized you know there was a DEPTH of talent

2069
01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 1: that i couldn't match up to in terms of the starting.

2070
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:02,240
Speaker 1: Line and varsity players and It's c, and in cam's

2071
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 1: case that came, maybe earlier than most and yet he

2072
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 1: still wanted to be. A part of it can you

2073
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:11,640
Speaker 1: kind of fill in the blanks for folks On the

2074
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:14,760
Speaker 1: challenge that cam had in continuing his basketball career and

2075
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 1: how he found a way to still be a.

2076
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 2: Part.

2077
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 12: Of, your program, Yeah, absolutely you know cameron he's, been

2078
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 12: a number one he's been a fan favorite within our small,

2079
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:27,400
Speaker 12: community here for years and he was a part and

2080
01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 12: a player of every one of his teams coming up

2081
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:34,520
Speaker 12: through the elementary and. The middle school ranks and obviously

2082
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 12: once he got, especially towards middle school there wasn't really

2083
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:39,799
Speaker 12: a ton of opportunity for him.

2084
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 3: To see the floor in the middle of games.

2085
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,960
Speaker 12: And things like that so he decided not to come

2086
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 12: out for the team when he, got TO high school

2087
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 12: just i think because he knew there wasn't really going

2088
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:52,640
Speaker 12: to be many opportunities on. The court for, him but

2089
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 12: you know then he decided to become our manager so

2090
01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:57,680
Speaker 12: that he could still be around the program and be

2091
01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:00,200
Speaker 12: around all the kids that he grew up, with and

2092
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:03,600
Speaker 12: you know played. Basketball with growing, up and you KNOW

2093
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 12: kind Of like i told rick, similar in that.

2094
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:06,720
Speaker 3: Story, is you know.

2095
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:09,360
Speaker 12: Yes he's a manager but THE one thing that i

2096
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 12: try to instill in all The guys here at, shakamack

2097
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 12: is you know we're. All one, big family you know,

2098
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 12: whether you're a player whether you're a, coach or a

2099
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 12: manager or even just a student at the, school that,

2100
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 12: doesn't play you know we try to treat each. Other

2101
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:26,680
Speaker 12: as A family and so cameron's been a huge asset

2102
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 12: to our high school boys program for. The last few,

2103
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 12: YEARS and You know i approached cameron a couple months

2104
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:36,800
Speaker 12: ago about possibly Starting him on senior night and letting.

2105
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:40,519
Speaker 12: Him GET a bucket when i brought that up to him,

2106
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:43,759
Speaker 12: a couple, months ago you know he kind of perked.

2107
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 12: Up at the idea he was, pretty EXCITED about it

2108
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 12: but i didn't think. He was really serious but he

2109
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 12: finally told me that he WOULD do it if. I

2110
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 12: WANTED him, TO and i said i absolutely want you to.

2111
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 12: If you, Want, that and Now coach he Got? How

2112
01:51:58,320 --> 01:51:59,560
Speaker 12: tall is cameron.

2113
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:02,520
Speaker 3: Cameron's about, Four, foot three inches.

2114
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 1: Okay SO you know and i don't know whether was there,

2115
01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:10,720
Speaker 1: a medical condition that as a young person it ultimately

2116
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 1: Limited his growth or cameron simply, is, a little person

2117
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 1: right four foot. Four, FOOT three right.

2118
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:20,519
Speaker 12: Yes i don't know the, exact DETAILS of it but i,

2119
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:23,520
Speaker 12: believe he, just is you, know a little, person.

2120
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 1: But, little person huge, personality loved by everybody. Loved by

2121
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:30,720
Speaker 1: the school and so you go to, him, and you

2122
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 1: say look you put your time in and, what's Interesting

2123
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:37,200
Speaker 1: about this, if i'm not mistaken you have a senior

2124
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:40,720
Speaker 1: class in terms. Of your roster itself you have how many?

2125
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:42,680
Speaker 1: SENIORS on the roster i?

2126
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:44,520
Speaker 3: Have, four Senior players.

2127
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:47,640
Speaker 1: Okay so, cam, is, a. Senior right yes sir so

2128
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 1: here you have, now on senior night five, seniors that

2129
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:57,720
Speaker 1: are Starting and that includes cam who, just based physically

2130
01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 1: speaking was denied the opportunity to be a varsity basketball

2131
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 1: player at the level that he might have dreamed about

2132
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,679
Speaker 1: as a third. Grade or fourth grader so, he's going

2133
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:09,760
Speaker 1: to practice he's, doing what he can he's. Lifting the

2134
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:13,160
Speaker 1: guys up everybody in, the community knows him and now.

2135
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:16,640
Speaker 1: Here COMES the opportunity, now I am assuming and i

2136
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:20,240
Speaker 1: don't mean, this In any. Disrespect but i'm assuming then, you,

2137
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 1: thought to yourself well if he's going to play and

2138
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:24,759
Speaker 1: start in the, game on senior night and how perfect

2139
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 1: to Have five seniors including cam and score the first,

2140
01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 1: bucket of the game you need. A jersey FOR him

2141
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:34,799
Speaker 1: now that i would imagine. Required. Some phone calls.

2142
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 12: Absolutely Luckily we work with we work with a couple

2143
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:42,440
Speaker 12: of different local companies when it comes to uniforms.

2144
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 3: And THINGS like that but i got a hold Of

2145
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:45,720
Speaker 3: A guy Named Doc.

2146
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 12: Clawson in tara Hate He works FOR coach's corner and

2147
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 12: i called him a couple MONTHS in advance because i

2148
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 12: knew that the Size of jersey that cameron was gonna

2149
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 12: need might take some, time to get. In AND it

2150
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 12: did so i think it took about a month for

2151
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:05,680
Speaker 12: us to. Get That jersey in so doc put it

2152
01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:09,640
Speaker 12: all together and he matched it to our varsity. Uniforms

2153
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:12,800
Speaker 12: pretty much identical so it worked out pretty well for.

2154
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 3: Us in that asset.

2155
01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 1: So you and here's the other SIDE of, this, that

2156
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:20,759
Speaker 1: i love coach and this is. What It's all about.

2157
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 1: Brodie crows my guest he's the Head. Basketball coach at

2158
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:26,719
Speaker 1: shackamack Senior Night was against Eastern green j, and v's alma,

2159
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:30,280
Speaker 1: Mater right and yep and so you're you're, gonna go

2160
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 1: out there and it. Takes two to tango so you know,

2161
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:37,840
Speaker 1: that on senior. Night you're at home cam's out there with,

2162
01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 1: his four lifelong. Buddies his fellow seniors he's a, part

2163
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:45,200
Speaker 1: of the team, and the opening tip he's going to go.

2164
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:46,720
Speaker 2: And, lay it in now.

2165
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:50,520
Speaker 1: Let's, begin with this obviously in that situation and it

2166
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:53,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't be hard to figure out. What's TAKING place here

2167
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 1: But I assume that jamie Hudson The coach at eastern

2168
01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 1: green probably needed to be tipped off.

2169
01:54:57,440 --> 01:54:58,360
Speaker 2: On, THIS as well.

2170
01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 3: Yeah i knew just from looking at our schedule before.

2171
01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 12: THE season even began I, reached Out to jamie and

2172
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:08,080
Speaker 12: i've got a Pretty good Friendship with JAMIE at eastern

2173
01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:10,840
Speaker 12: and i asked him if he would be willing. To

2174
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 12: let that happen and He asked me if cameron was

2175
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:16,560
Speaker 12: a good kid and all those, little THINGS like that

2176
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:19,240
Speaker 12: and i. Obviously spoke, The truth you know, cameron's A

2177
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:21,320
Speaker 12: great kid and jamie.

2178
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:23,200
Speaker 3: Was ALL for it was i think he might have

2179
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 3: been JUST as excited as i, was for.

2180
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 1: That moment you know so it happens and he hits

2181
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:30,240
Speaker 1: the layup, to start, the game and boy. HE nailed,

2182
01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:32,040
Speaker 1: it too i MEAN it, wasn't like, i mean you

2183
01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 1: know this looked like a guy that had had breakaway.

2184
01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 1: Layups his entire life how Much do you think cam

2185
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 1: practiced for the moment or do you?

2186
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:42,560
Speaker 2: Think, HE was nervous well i.

2187
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 12: Know he was nervous he The Day of, that senior

2188
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:48,480
Speaker 12: night game he he sent me a message about four

2189
01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 12: hours before tipoff AND he asked if i would let

2190
01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 12: him in the gym so, He COULD keep practicing so

2191
01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 12: i let him in the gym about three. Or Four

2192
01:55:56,720 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 12: hours early but cameron practices. Though all the time cameron actually.

2193
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 12: Can hit three pointers he's at every one of our practices,

2194
01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:08,959
Speaker 12: before we get going and he's shooting around, all, the whole, time. Layups,

2195
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 12: three pointers everything coach let.

2196
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 1: Me ask you this you got five guys, on, the

2197
01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 1: Floor there right and cameron goes in. And HITS that

2198
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:20,360
Speaker 1: layup and i WATCHED the video and i watched the

2199
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:23,800
Speaker 1: other four and it's A Great. Moment for cameron pollen

2200
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 1: and it's a moment that he deserved and he earned

2201
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:30,760
Speaker 1: because he didn't sulk when life presented. Bigger challenge for

2202
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:33,440
Speaker 1: him he found a way to overcome that and be,

2203
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:35,560
Speaker 1: a part of it and he. Was rewarded for it

2204
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:39,280
Speaker 1: but who do you think gained the, Most in that

2205
01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 1: moment cameron. OR his, FOUR teammates i mean i think a,

2206
01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 1: little Bit of both, If I'M being honest but i

2207
01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 1: do think that the other four classmates, AND teammates of

2208
01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:52,280
Speaker 1: his i.

2209
01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 12: Think they probably got as much of it As from.

2210
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:58,840
Speaker 12: That as, cameron did you know that's a group of,

2211
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 12: kids that you Know they're used to cameron being on

2212
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:04,520
Speaker 12: their team every single year. Coming up through, school and

2213
01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:08,160
Speaker 12: you know obviously they understood why he didn't. Play in

2214
01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:12,680
Speaker 12: high school. They OBVIOUSLY understood that but i, think That

2215
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:17,120
Speaker 12: you know letting cameron score with his senior classmates that,

2216
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:19,480
Speaker 12: HE grew up with, i think, those guys you know

2217
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:21,000
Speaker 12: probably got just as Much from.

2218
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 3: That as cameron did do you Know?

2219
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:25,680
Speaker 1: WHAT'S next for cameron i mean? After high school itself

2220
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:28,560
Speaker 1: or has he given indication as to. What his aspirations

2221
01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:30,840
Speaker 1: are it sounds like he can probably accomplish a.

2222
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:31,880
Speaker 2: Lot, OF great things.

2223
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:35,000
Speaker 12: Yeah i don't know exactly what he wants to, go

2224
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:37,800
Speaker 12: To college for but I'M fairly certain when i tell

2225
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:39,840
Speaker 12: you that he's planning, TO go to college i. Don't

2226
01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:42,920
Speaker 12: know what for but YOU know That's something i told

2227
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:45,400
Speaker 12: rick similar as well when he was interviewing me about

2228
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:49,120
Speaker 12: This is you. Know cameron's, got that you know it takes,

2229
01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:52,480
Speaker 12: size away from. It that doesn't matter, cameron's got, that

2230
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 12: positive infectious personality and that's why he's such a favorite

2231
01:57:57,120 --> 01:58:01,400
Speaker 12: amongst everybody locally here that you know that his work

2232
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:04,080
Speaker 12: ethic and his personality are going to take him really

2233
01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:05,000
Speaker 12: as far as he wants.

2234
01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:05,680
Speaker 3: To go in.

2235
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:10,280
Speaker 1: Life sounds like it's, pretty easy to say coach that you'll.

2236
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 2: Miss.

2237
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:14,120
Speaker 12: Him, Next YEAR yeah, YEAH like, i said i mean

2238
01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:17,080
Speaker 12: he's he has been as big of an asset to

2239
01:58:17,200 --> 01:58:20,680
Speaker 12: our program as myself or any of the other coaches

2240
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:21,760
Speaker 12: or any of the other.

2241
01:58:21,800 --> 01:58:22,960
Speaker 3: Players on, the team you know.

2242
01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 12: He he does just as much, for us as anybody

2243
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:29,680
Speaker 12: and you know we're definitely going to miss everything that.

2244
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 12: He brings to us obviously not, just a managerial role

2245
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 12: but you, know from his personality how he pumps confidence

2246
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:41,800
Speaker 12: into the, Kids and the coaches we're going to miss

2247
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:42,440
Speaker 12: him a lot.

2248
01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:43,760
Speaker 3: Next year for sure.

2249
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 1: As for the season itself, starting to wind down obviously,

2250
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 1: this time of year you LOOK at it and i

2251
01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 1: know that there's at least one more snow flurries in

2252
01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:55,120
Speaker 1: the forecast because that's what always happens when. Sectionals come

2253
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:58,720
Speaker 1: into play but you're winding things down On Your, Season

2254
01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:01,240
Speaker 1: itself owen valley is that right or? Has that taken

2255
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 1: place we.

2256
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:05,839
Speaker 3: Just We just defeated. Owen? Valley, last night, yes.

2257
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 1: So so now basically where do things stand for you

2258
01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:12,520
Speaker 1: in terms of what you want to get done or

2259
01:59:12,520 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 1: what you need to work on.

2260
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:13,840
Speaker 2: Heading, into.

2261
01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:18,400
Speaker 12: The postseason, well honestly you know obviously our goal is

2262
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:22,000
Speaker 12: to go in next week and. Win the, sectional championship

2263
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:25,120
Speaker 12: you know we obviously have some, things to work on.

2264
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:29,080
Speaker 12: As DO most people but i, think just you know

2265
01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 12: fine tuning some things on both, ends of the floor

2266
01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:34,960
Speaker 12: of the offensive end, and the defensive evend just being,

2267
01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:37,560
Speaker 12: a little more crisp being a little more on. Time and,

2268
01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 12: understanding rotations but yeah our our goal is definitely to

2269
01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:43,320
Speaker 12: go in and win the.

2270
01:59:43,360 --> 01:59:45,920
Speaker 3: Sectional, next Next week absolutely.

2271
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:48,160
Speaker 1: Perty cross my Guest head. Coach, AT shakamack coach finally

2272
01:59:48,240 --> 01:59:49,400
Speaker 1: i WILL say this and i.

2273
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:49,839
Speaker 2: Commend.

2274
01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 1: You for, THIS uh you know i think high school

2275
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:53,760
Speaker 1: athletics we. LOSE sight of this i know a lot

2276
01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:54,320
Speaker 1: of parents.

2277
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:54,560
Speaker 2: Lose.

2278
01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:58,760
Speaker 1: Sight of this unfortunately sometimes it's about life victories as

2279
01:59:58,840 --> 02:00:01,120
Speaker 1: much as it is about, basket about game victories and

2280
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:05,320
Speaker 1: it's about learning so many valuable lessons that carry you

2281
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:08,360
Speaker 1: on forward for the. Rest Of your life and i'm

2282
02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:11,320
Speaker 1: PRETTY confident in, saying I wasn't there but i could see,

2283
02:00:11,320 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 1: it on the video, not just Your Players but, the

2284
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:18,800
Speaker 1: eastern green players the students in. THE in the crowd i,

2285
02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:21,160
Speaker 1: think all of them, probably in that moment Will learn,

2286
02:00:21,400 --> 02:00:24,480
Speaker 1: from what cameron did and that is that you simply

2287
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:26,680
Speaker 1: keep your head up and go about your business and

2288
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:28,960
Speaker 1: do the base hits every day and eventually home runs.

2289
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:31,240
Speaker 1: Will come to. You and he delivered he knocked it.

2290
02:00:31,280 --> 02:00:34,440
Speaker 1: Out of the park but, you HELPED facilitate that and i.

2291
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:36,480
Speaker 1: COMMEND you on that i think it's what. Sports ARE

2292
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:38,600
Speaker 1: all about and i certainly thought it. Was, A great story.

2293
02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:42,440
Speaker 12: Yeah i, appreciate that, You know we UH that's one

2294
02:00:42,440 --> 02:00:44,760
Speaker 12: thing i try to get through to every single one

2295
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 12: of my players every, year is you know we're all

2296
02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:50,640
Speaker 12: we can all be cut throat competitors and want to

2297
02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:52,640
Speaker 12: win every time we, step on the court, which you

2298
02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:55,520
Speaker 12: should be but you got to also understand in the

2299
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:58,240
Speaker 12: back of your mind that there's definitely more to life

2300
02:00:58,240 --> 02:01:00,080
Speaker 12: than winning or losing a basketball.

2301
02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:00,920
Speaker 3: Game OR any.

2302
02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:04,120
Speaker 12: Sport so i try to get through to each of

2303
02:01:04,120 --> 02:01:08,080
Speaker 12: those players and, managers that you know it's more important

2304
02:01:08,120 --> 02:01:10,880
Speaker 12: to be a good person than it is to win

2305
02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:11,320
Speaker 12: a single.

2306
02:01:11,360 --> 02:01:14,320
Speaker 3: Game of ANY sort and so i Was really proud of.

2307
02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:17,000
Speaker 12: CAMERON for that moment i was really proud of, the

2308
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:21,920
Speaker 12: way the, players the entire team and the entire community.

2309
02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:22,400
Speaker 3: Embraced.

2310
02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:25,680
Speaker 1: Him AS well well coach i appreciate the, time today

2311
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:28,120
Speaker 1: as always and now that you've got coaches corner, TO

2312
02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:30,120
Speaker 1: make the jersey i will allow you To go over

2313
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:32,080
Speaker 1: to terahute somewhere to find somewhere to frame it And

2314
02:01:32,080 --> 02:01:34,120
Speaker 1: hand it to cameron. Because he earned it, appreciate.

2315
02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:37,160
Speaker 3: THE time absolutely man i appreciate you. Having me.

2316
02:01:37,200 --> 02:01:40,000
Speaker 1: On Today appreciate it, franciscan health feel good, good for

2317
02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:42,040
Speaker 1: the heart pride and a Good Story Out Of shackam back.

2318
02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:44,400
Speaker 1: Eastern green, as well You Know kudos to eastern green

2319
02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:48,840
Speaker 1: for understanding that moment as well as for the feel.

2320
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:51,200
Speaker 2: Good of the heart that is obviously what.

2321
02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:53,200
Speaker 1: Sports is all about every, once in a while the

2322
02:01:53,240 --> 02:01:55,080
Speaker 1: heart might be telling you it's not feeling so good

2323
02:01:55,520 --> 02:01:58,120
Speaker 1: and there are important signs that you. Can learn from

2324
02:01:58,160 --> 02:02:02,360
Speaker 1: that we'll let you. Know more About, that it's a

2325
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:04,320
Speaker 1: friday it's a bottom of. The two o'clock hour you.

2326
02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:06,680
Speaker 1: Know what that means It Is time for, franciscan health

2327
02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:09,120
Speaker 1: feel Good Good. For the heart friday and we do

2328
02:02:09,320 --> 02:02:12,520
Speaker 1: this periodically where we have one of The Fabulous doctors

2329
02:02:12,520 --> 02:02:15,040
Speaker 1: from franciscan health to come on and talk about different

2330
02:02:15,120 --> 02:02:17,480
Speaker 1: important issues when it, comes to the heart and that

2331
02:02:17,560 --> 02:02:20,600
Speaker 1: includes my guest today who is a return. Guest of

2332
02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:23,280
Speaker 1: THE program he and i have become. Friends at this

2333
02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:27,880
Speaker 1: point attached at the, Heart If You will doctor George Lolay,

2334
02:02:28,080 --> 02:02:31,880
Speaker 1: is WITH franciscan health and, I believe DOCTOR now i think,

2335
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:34,640
Speaker 1: i got this right and you are obviously far, more

2336
02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:36,880
Speaker 1: intellectual than myself SO we'll see if i could. Remember

2337
02:02:36,920 --> 02:02:40,880
Speaker 1: the title correctly but you are The Service director For Cardiovascular.

2338
02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:45,040
Speaker 1: Imaging FOR franciscan health did? I, Get, that correct hey.

2339
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:46,320
Speaker 8: Jake until it is good, to be, with you and

2340
02:02:46,400 --> 02:02:46,960
Speaker 8: yes you.

2341
02:02:47,000 --> 02:02:49,480
Speaker 2: Did, Get that correct Okay well that much.

2342
02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm proud of myself and it is NOT very often

2343
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:56,280
Speaker 1: that i get to talk doctor with somebody ABOUT a

2344
02:02:56,360 --> 02:03:00,360
Speaker 1: subject where i have, some knowledge of it and unfortunately that.

2345
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Speaker 1: Is THE case today but i think it's such AN

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02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:04,760
Speaker 1: important subject that i wanted to BRING you on and

2347
02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:06,760
Speaker 1: i appreciate your time in this and that is simply

2348
02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:11,360
Speaker 1: talking about a heart attack but. BEING preventative about it

2349
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:13,680
Speaker 1: i have told many people about the importance of the forty,

2350
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:16,360
Speaker 1: nine dollars heart scan which is not invasive and easy

2351
02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:19,040
Speaker 1: to do and get that heart health risk Assessment. That

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02:03:19,120 --> 02:03:23,680
Speaker 1: comes with franciscan but for those that find themselves IN

2353
02:03:23,720 --> 02:03:25,720
Speaker 1: the position. That i was in we do everything we

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02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:28,040
Speaker 1: can to make sure that people do not. Get, Into

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02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:30,920
Speaker 1: THAT position doctor but i want, to begin with THIS

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02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:33,960
Speaker 1: and that is I know that after i, had a

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02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:36,240
Speaker 1: heart attack and we're going to talk about the symptoms of.

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02:03:36,240 --> 02:03:39,240
Speaker 1: That in a, MOMENT but after that i then had

2359
02:03:39,280 --> 02:03:41,920
Speaker 1: to check the, BOX essentially of yes. I HAVE heart

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02:03:41,960 --> 02:03:45,120
Speaker 1: disease but i realized that those. Two things are different

2361
02:03:45,480 --> 02:03:48,400
Speaker 1: is it possible to be a patient with heart disease

2362
02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:51,040
Speaker 1: that is not one who has? Had, a, heart attack.

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02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:53,720
Speaker 8: Jake again it's always a pleasure to be with you

2364
02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:55,640
Speaker 8: and thank you for. Having me on board yet there

2365
02:03:55,760 --> 02:03:59,200
Speaker 8: is a difference between heart. Attack and heart disease heart

2366
02:03:59,240 --> 02:04:04,919
Speaker 8: attack is a sudden event. Caused by a problem heart disease.

2367
02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:07,680
Speaker 8: Is the underlying problem so what? Is a heart attack

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02:04:08,000 --> 02:04:11,120
Speaker 8: it's the medical term, is my cardio infarction and it

2369
02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:13,480
Speaker 8: happens when the blood flow to part of your heart.

2370
02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:17,600
Speaker 8: Muscle is suddenly blocked usually a is formed and then

2371
02:04:17,640 --> 02:04:21,440
Speaker 8: the blockage causes damage or dust. To the heart muscle

2372
02:04:21,560 --> 02:04:24,160
Speaker 8: heart disease is more. Of a broad term, it includes,

2373
02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:30,200
Speaker 8: heart failure heart attacks or abnormal heart rhythms.

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02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:30,560
Speaker 2: When you have.

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02:04:30,720 --> 02:04:33,960
Speaker 1: THE heart attack itself i think, that we think, Doctor

2376
02:04:34,360 --> 02:04:36,000
Speaker 1: and you know i'm going, to USE my case and

2377
02:04:36,040 --> 02:04:38,240
Speaker 1: i hate to always, make it about that but that's

2378
02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:40,960
Speaker 1: THE area of which i. Have, the MOST knowledge obviously

2379
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:44,080
Speaker 1: right i was, FORTY eight years old i, had FAMILY

2380
02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:47,760
Speaker 1: heart history but i had run forty, miles the previous week,

2381
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:51,560
Speaker 1: was not a SMOKER and yet then I have the

2382
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:55,080
Speaker 1: widow maker heart attack with. One hundred percent blockage what

2383
02:04:55,120 --> 02:04:58,040
Speaker 1: would you say was the? Reasoning FROM my risk and

2384
02:04:58,080 --> 02:05:01,680
Speaker 1: i ask it that, way into say this who is

2385
02:05:01,880 --> 02:05:04,560
Speaker 1: at risk above and, beyond even the obvious but let's,

2386
02:05:04,600 --> 02:05:07,400
Speaker 1: include that as well those that would find themselves in

2387
02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:08,440
Speaker 1: a risk category.

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02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:11,080
Speaker 2: Of a heart attack, That's.

2389
02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:14,520
Speaker 8: A great question jacob so you bring. Up an important

2390
02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:18,839
Speaker 8: point one of the most important risk factors is the family.

2391
02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:23,200
Speaker 8: History of heart disease so if you're a man and

2392
02:05:23,240 --> 02:05:25,160
Speaker 8: you had an immediate family member who had a heart,

2393
02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:28,920
Speaker 8: attack in your forties or your mom or a female

2394
02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:31,520
Speaker 8: had a heart, attack in our fifties that's considered early

2395
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:36,000
Speaker 8: on sin and that by itself. Is, a risk factor now,

2396
02:05:36,680 --> 02:05:39,800
Speaker 8: along that risk factor there are other traditional risk factors,

2397
02:05:39,880 --> 02:05:44,960
Speaker 8: like high, blood, pressure high cholesterol, diabetes, obviously active smoking obesity,

2398
02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:48,880
Speaker 8: physical inactivity by itself even, if you're not obese. Is a,

2399
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:52,840
Speaker 8: risk factor chronic stress, believe it or not is a risk,

2400
02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:55,800
Speaker 8: factor for heart attacks and your own personal history of

2401
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:59,120
Speaker 8: fire heart attacks by yourself put you at higher risk compared.

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02:05:59,160 --> 02:06:02,920
Speaker 8: To the general population and then one thing, to keep

2403
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:07,760
Speaker 8: in mind, women carrying higher, risks especially, After.

2404
02:06:07,560 --> 02:06:13,160
Speaker 2: Menopause really okay and with that that kind Of Goes

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02:06:13,200 --> 02:06:16,040
Speaker 2: into doctor george, lolay as my, guest our next question

2406
02:06:16,400 --> 02:06:20,000
Speaker 2: which is you, know For me doctor and i've. Told

2407
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:22,160
Speaker 2: people this before my left.

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02:06:22,240 --> 02:06:25,160
Speaker 1: Arm went immediately numb it felt like the tightest, tourniquet ever,

2409
02:06:25,320 --> 02:06:28,200
Speaker 1: was immediately not gradually but instantly, on my left arm

2410
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:32,280
Speaker 1: and then a heat inside of my chest. Followed by

2411
02:06:32,360 --> 02:06:36,840
Speaker 1: profuse sweating. THOSE were my symptoms i guess. A two

2412
02:06:36,920 --> 02:06:41,040
Speaker 1: part question one would be what symptoms may someone encounter

2413
02:06:41,160 --> 02:06:43,400
Speaker 1: that is having a heart attack? That differ, from mine

2414
02:06:43,960 --> 02:06:48,120
Speaker 1: and secondly what symptoms might A woman feel, that i

2415
02:06:48,280 --> 02:06:49,640
Speaker 1: did not or perhaps?

2416
02:06:50,480 --> 02:06:52,880
Speaker 2: You know all together do do women? Have totally, different

2417
02:06:52,880 --> 02:06:55,840
Speaker 2: symptoms you know that's, a very important.

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02:06:55,880 --> 02:07:00,880
Speaker 8: Topic especially in, females in your case you had what

2419
02:07:00,920 --> 02:07:05,120
Speaker 8: we call the. Typical or classic presentation so these, symptoms

2420
02:07:05,160 --> 02:07:09,240
Speaker 8: are chest pressure tiny squeezing or pain in the chest

2421
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:13,040
Speaker 8: and then it, travels, through, the arm, neck jaw the

2422
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:16,160
Speaker 8: shoulder usually the left ones but not always. Sometimes be

2423
02:07:16,240 --> 02:07:21,800
Speaker 8: back another other symptoms, could be significant, shortsugress really bad

2424
02:07:21,880 --> 02:07:25,720
Speaker 8: nausea and vomiting. Not related to food you can also

2425
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:29,600
Speaker 8: have cold, sweats sometimes like hetertance but. At least in

2426
02:07:29,680 --> 02:07:32,760
Speaker 8: males the typical symptoms, is exactly we report a chest

2427
02:07:32,760 --> 02:07:36,280
Speaker 8: pressure or some form of chest being that travels through.

2428
02:07:36,280 --> 02:07:40,040
Speaker 8: The arm and jaw now do men and women have

2429
02:07:40,440 --> 02:07:44,800
Speaker 8: these same symptoms, not always so, men like we said

2430
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:49,480
Speaker 8: have more. Classic crushing, chest being women however may have

2431
02:07:50,760 --> 02:07:54,040
Speaker 8: nausea burning at the top of their stomach and they

2432
02:07:54,080 --> 02:07:57,160
Speaker 8: might think it's heartburning when in fact it. Is a

2433
02:07:57,200 --> 02:08:01,760
Speaker 8: heart attack and that's how these heart attacks. And females

2434
02:08:01,800 --> 02:08:08,920
Speaker 8: get missed, so indigestion. Like symptoms profound fatigue women's symptoms

2435
02:08:08,920 --> 02:08:12,640
Speaker 8: in general, can be more subtle and so heart attacks

2436
02:08:12,640 --> 02:08:17,080
Speaker 8: whom and women are. Sometimes missed or Delayed.

2437
02:08:17,760 --> 02:08:21,080
Speaker 2: Doctor when doctor george lolay is my guest when somebody

2438
02:08:21,120 --> 02:08:23,840
Speaker 2: HAS those symptoms and, i DID learn this but i

2439
02:08:23,880 --> 02:08:26,960
Speaker 2: want you to share it so, someone's watching a ballgame

2440
02:08:27,000 --> 02:08:29,480
Speaker 2: they're out in the, backyard with the kids, whatever it

2441
02:08:29,480 --> 02:08:32,280
Speaker 2: may be. Wherever they may be as soon as those

2442
02:08:32,320 --> 02:08:35,560
Speaker 2: symptoms come on and they realize that a heart attack,

2443
02:08:35,680 --> 02:08:38,520
Speaker 2: is what's in play what is the immediate course of

2444
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:39,400
Speaker 2: action that? Needs to.

2445
02:08:39,440 --> 02:08:45,200
Speaker 8: Take place fantastic question please stop whatever you're doing at

2446
02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:47,960
Speaker 8: that time, and call nine one dial, nine to one

2447
02:08:48,040 --> 02:08:48,800
Speaker 8: one and.

2448
02:08:48,840 --> 02:08:50,080
Speaker 3: Do not please.

2449
02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:55,400
Speaker 8: Do NOT drive yourself and i say that, because time

2450
02:08:56,120 --> 02:08:59,320
Speaker 8: is muscle and that's a non, term in our field

2451
02:08:59,480 --> 02:09:02,680
Speaker 8: which means the longer the heart attack or the heart,

2452
02:09:03,560 --> 02:09:10,040
Speaker 8: lacks the blood flow. The more damage occurs and if

2453
02:09:10,400 --> 02:09:15,640
Speaker 8: that patient while you're waiting for the emergency services happen

2454
02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:18,760
Speaker 8: to have aspirin and he's aware or knows, that he's

2455
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:20,560
Speaker 8: not allergic it is reasonable to take.

2456
02:09:20,600 --> 02:09:22,920
Speaker 3: Asp at, that time but again be.

2457
02:09:23,120 --> 02:09:27,000
Speaker 8: Prompt about your response do, not ignore your symptoms and even,

2458
02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:27,320
Speaker 8: if you're.

2459
02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:29,640
Speaker 3: Not sure get checked what?

2460
02:09:29,800 --> 02:09:32,440
Speaker 1: EXACTLY is you know i know that when when you,

2461
02:09:32,480 --> 02:09:35,280
Speaker 1: have a heart attack part of the muscle of your

2462
02:09:35,320 --> 02:09:38,080
Speaker 1: heart is being denied blood and that and we know

2463
02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:40,040
Speaker 1: you know that you don't want that muscle. To then

2464
02:09:40,120 --> 02:09:42,800
Speaker 1: go dormant but over the course, of a heart attack

2465
02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:46,040
Speaker 1: what exactly is it that's, happening to the heart and

2466
02:09:46,680 --> 02:09:48,840
Speaker 1: can you get that part of the heart back to

2467
02:09:48,920 --> 02:09:49,600
Speaker 1: quote unquote.

2468
02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:52,680
Speaker 2: Normal after, The fact you can.

2469
02:09:52,640 --> 02:09:55,440
Speaker 8: And that's why we. Say time IS muscle and what

2470
02:09:55,480 --> 02:09:59,839
Speaker 8: i mean by that is depending on, how quickly treatment

2471
02:10:01,160 --> 02:10:05,400
Speaker 8: happens that. You have three options the, heart may recover

2472
02:10:05,800 --> 02:10:12,440
Speaker 8: well that you might have some residual damage where you

2473
02:10:12,480 --> 02:10:15,840
Speaker 8: would lose some of that. Pumping or squeeze strength and

2474
02:10:16,040 --> 02:10:20,600
Speaker 8: some people might have more clinical heart failure symptoms if

2475
02:10:20,640 --> 02:10:24,040
Speaker 8: you have, a bigger heart attack where you'd have swuming

2476
02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:28,000
Speaker 8: your legs and you need. To take water pills but

2477
02:10:29,320 --> 02:10:32,440
Speaker 8: we're fortunate enough to live in an error where we.

2478
02:10:32,480 --> 02:10:36,880
Speaker 8: Have we've advanced therapy we have modern treatments, like sense

2479
02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:40,920
Speaker 8: and medications and they significantly reduce long term.

2480
02:10:41,080 --> 02:10:45,320
Speaker 2: Damage if, given, quickly and lastly doctor and the first

2481
02:10:45,360 --> 02:10:47,400
Speaker 2: thing we should say to this is that everyone should

2482
02:10:47,400 --> 02:10:49,360
Speaker 2: immediately put down the cigarette if they have one in

2483
02:10:49,400 --> 02:10:51,520
Speaker 2: their hand while, listening TO this answer because i know,

2484
02:10:51,560 --> 02:10:54,240
Speaker 2: that's a big one. But there are others what can

2485
02:10:54,280 --> 02:10:57,720
Speaker 2: someone do to do their very best to? Prevent a heart.

2486
02:10:57,640 --> 02:11:03,240
Speaker 8: Attack so, prevention is very powerful and key measures that

2487
02:11:03,280 --> 02:11:06,760
Speaker 8: you can take would be control as, simple as it

2488
02:11:06,840 --> 02:11:11,480
Speaker 8: sounds but, controlling your blood, pressure lowering your cholesterol managing

2489
02:11:11,480 --> 02:11:15,680
Speaker 8: your diabetes, and like you said smalling cisation WHAT'S more

2490
02:11:15,720 --> 02:11:20,040
Speaker 8: Important and i and i've felled that, on a personal

2491
02:11:20,120 --> 02:11:24,880
Speaker 8: level exercising for around thirty to forty five minutes a

2492
02:11:24,960 --> 02:11:27,360
Speaker 8: day for four days a week makes a lot of

2493
02:11:27,360 --> 02:11:32,040
Speaker 8: difference maintaining a healthy, way and more importantly. Eating a

2494
02:11:32,080 --> 02:11:36,200
Speaker 8: healthy diet one that comes to Mind would be a.

2495
02:11:37,160 --> 02:11:43,040
Speaker 8: Mediterranean scale style diet and remember portion. Control is very

2496
02:11:43,040 --> 02:11:45,840
Speaker 8: important just because, you're eating something healthy you still have.

2497
02:11:45,960 --> 02:11:49,960
Speaker 8: To control the portions one more important thing to keep

2498
02:11:49,960 --> 02:11:54,360
Speaker 8: in mind would be manage your stress and then make

2499
02:11:54,400 --> 02:11:55,000
Speaker 8: sure you show up.

2500
02:11:55,040 --> 02:11:57,840
Speaker 2: For, your regular checkups, doctor it's, a.

2501
02:11:57,880 --> 02:12:00,840
Speaker 1: Pleasure as always soredity now it's more than just, a

2502
02:12:00,880 --> 02:12:02,920
Speaker 1: sign feld line it's the key. To a, Healthy, heart

2503
02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:06,760
Speaker 1: right serenity now reduce the stress and listen to. The,

2504
02:12:06,800 --> 02:12:10,480
Speaker 1: signs and symptoms doctor. A, pleasure as always certainly wish

2505
02:12:10,520 --> 02:12:12,880
Speaker 1: you the best for a wonderful, weekend and as always

2506
02:12:12,880 --> 02:12:14,360
Speaker 1: thanks for the information and the great Work.

2507
02:12:14,360 --> 02:12:15,920
Speaker 2: You're doing At franciscan.

2508
02:12:16,160 --> 02:12:18,320
Speaker 8: Thank you jake for having me. Have a Great Day.

2509
02:12:18,440 --> 02:12:22,959
Speaker 1: That's Doctor George lolay Service Line director For Cardiovascular. Imaging

2510
02:12:23,160 --> 02:12:27,040
Speaker 1: from franciscan, health a reminder folks number One heart program

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Speaker 1: you can self refer, pay out of pocket and you

2517
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Speaker 1: get that heart health risk assessment.

2518
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Speaker 2: That comes with it so taking the first.

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Speaker 1: Steps like we were just Talking about with doctor lolay

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Speaker 1: for the most important, aspect of your heart and that

2521
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Speaker 1: is simply awareness of knowing ahead of time where you stand,

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2557
02:14:34,600 --> 02:14:38,160
Speaker 1: over One Hundred. Years in Central Indiana an official hile,

2558
02:14:38,240 --> 02:14:42,040
Speaker 1: HEATING AND cooling dealer. J, andb has arrived john you

2559
02:14:42,080 --> 02:14:42,800
Speaker 1: have lined up what?

2560
02:14:42,880 --> 02:14:44,640
Speaker 13: For the, big program you know it's funny watching you

2561
02:14:44,640 --> 02:14:46,720
Speaker 13: get stuff squored on. All over your shirt right there

2562
02:14:47,600 --> 02:14:49,800
Speaker 13: they have any one That reminded me of.

2563
02:14:52,360 --> 02:14:55,560
Speaker 2: Literally, they have hand sanitizer a big jug of it. Out,

2564
02:14:55,560 --> 02:14:57,560
Speaker 2: In the HALLWAY yeah, and, so, i thought oh well,

2565
02:14:57,560 --> 02:14:59,880
Speaker 2: this WILL be fun and i went to get HIS

2566
02:15:00,320 --> 02:15:02,760
Speaker 2: pump and, BEFORE i know It I was like ben Stiller.

2567
02:15:02,760 --> 02:15:02,800
Speaker 8: And.

2568
02:15:02,920 --> 02:15:04,280
Speaker 2: Something, about mary right.

2569
02:15:04,200 --> 02:15:06,640
Speaker 13: Hey well you just sometimes you gotta understand, when you

2570
02:15:06,680 --> 02:15:07,560
Speaker 13: do pump you just don't.

2571
02:15:07,560 --> 02:15:11,480
Speaker 2: Know where it's. Going THAT'S exactly right so i looked

2572
02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:13,280
Speaker 2: up whether this was one of, my FAVORITE shirts somewhere

2573
02:15:13,280 --> 02:15:15,720
Speaker 2: and i don't know if it'll. Stand, it or not? Man?

2574
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:16,240
Speaker 3: How's?

2575
02:15:16,280 --> 02:15:19,200
Speaker 13: The day man man purdue to me last. Night, WAS

2576
02:15:19,280 --> 02:15:21,880
Speaker 13: really disappointing yeah i. WOULD agree with that I was,

2577
02:15:21,920 --> 02:15:23,520
Speaker 13: at THE pacer game but i saw it and like

2578
02:15:25,120 --> 02:15:28,520
Speaker 13: it just it had. Moments, where the right yeah they

2579
02:15:28,520 --> 02:15:31,560
Speaker 13: had moments with their guys that you count on like

2580
02:15:31,680 --> 02:15:35,560
Speaker 13: that and what they're supposed to be needed to be those,

2581
02:15:35,600 --> 02:15:37,840
Speaker 13: guys to do. It and they Didn't Whether, it Was

2582
02:15:38,080 --> 02:15:41,280
Speaker 13: trey Kaufman w ren. Or braden it, was it was

2583
02:15:41,360 --> 02:15:43,840
Speaker 13: moments and, that's why they're there and that's why they

2584
02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:47,040
Speaker 13: were touted and against the. Better teams like that it's.

2585
02:15:47,880 --> 02:15:49,360
Speaker 13: It's Been, A struggle.

2586
02:15:49,160 --> 02:15:52,440
Speaker 1: And john we've been, saying it, all year you know

2587
02:15:53,520 --> 02:15:57,600
Speaker 1: at some, point we keep saying at some point They Got,

2588
02:15:57,640 --> 02:16:00,600
Speaker 1: to get, fletcher lawyer you. Know going in rhythm but

2589
02:16:00,600 --> 02:16:02,879
Speaker 1: if it hasn't happened by now on a, consistent basis

2590
02:16:02,880 --> 02:16:04,040
Speaker 1: THIS season you wonder i.

2591
02:16:04,120 --> 02:16:06,440
Speaker 13: MENTIONED this last nime i was kind of talking to

2592
02:16:06,480 --> 02:16:09,080
Speaker 13: somebody About It in both Michigan State and THEN dusty

2593
02:16:09,120 --> 02:16:12,360
Speaker 13: may and i talked. About this last Week Michigan, much

2594
02:16:12,400 --> 02:16:15,320
Speaker 13: like michigan state they closed out hard, on the produced

2595
02:16:15,320 --> 02:16:20,600
Speaker 13: shooters but also controlled so, once you pump fake they didn't,

2596
02:16:20,640 --> 02:16:22,920
Speaker 13: go right around them or they didn't run into fouls.

2597
02:16:23,000 --> 02:16:25,280
Speaker 13: Or anything like that it was. Just really good Defense

2598
02:16:25,280 --> 02:16:28,480
Speaker 13: and the boiler makers with those plays, couldn't make other

2599
02:16:28,520 --> 02:16:31,440
Speaker 13: plays couldn't hit a skip pass couldn't, find somebody wide

2600
02:16:31,480 --> 02:16:34,720
Speaker 13: open or couldn't make a. Play On their Own Both

2601
02:16:34,760 --> 02:16:37,440
Speaker 13: MICHIGAN and michigan state i think have found something That

2602
02:16:37,600 --> 02:16:40,640
Speaker 13: is useful against purdue's offense. In terms of that, maybe

2603
02:16:40,680 --> 02:16:43,519
Speaker 13: that's something SMALL but it's. Something i THINK legit and again.

2604
02:16:43,280 --> 02:16:46,120
Speaker 1: I, GO back to john i wonder if this is

2605
02:16:46,200 --> 02:16:48,279
Speaker 1: the case when you have a group that has played,

2606
02:16:48,360 --> 02:16:50,840
Speaker 1: that many games together that means that there's that much

2607
02:16:50,879 --> 02:16:51,720
Speaker 1: more tape.

2608
02:16:51,480 --> 02:16:53,720
Speaker 2: To figure out. Where, Their, WEAKNESSES are RIGHT yeah I Think.

2609
02:16:53,760 --> 02:16:56,840
Speaker 13: I Have michigan. STATE michigan state defensively i mean they were.

2610
02:16:56,879 --> 02:16:59,160
Speaker 13: Hard headging a lot they were, blowing up you know

2611
02:16:59,240 --> 02:17:01,880
Speaker 13: the pick and, roll and double teaming and you could

2612
02:17:01,879 --> 02:17:03,959
Speaker 13: tell a, lot of these passes the Extra passes the

2613
02:17:03,959 --> 02:17:06,959
Speaker 13: boiler makers make that oftentimes get, easy shots for others,

2614
02:17:06,959 --> 02:17:09,680
Speaker 13: Whether it's You know cox or harris or or who,

2615
02:17:10,320 --> 02:17:13,440
Speaker 13: those passes weren't there. Those moments Weren't There And then

2616
02:17:13,640 --> 02:17:16,440
Speaker 13: trey kaufman, rin looks, so effortless for, example the year

2617
02:17:16,480 --> 02:17:18,840
Speaker 13: ago making plays and getting to wherever he. Wants on

2618
02:17:18,879 --> 02:17:21,600
Speaker 13: the interior it's a. Tough, SELETTING for.

2619
02:17:21,959 --> 02:17:25,199
Speaker 1: They again i know the big Ten's really Good Between, Michigan,

2620
02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:27,520
Speaker 1: and michigan, State, illinois you know Nebraska. AND there In

2621
02:17:27,560 --> 02:17:30,039
Speaker 1: purdue i thought purdue would be at the top of

2622
02:17:30,080 --> 02:17:33,440
Speaker 1: it for the, majority of the season but we'll see

2623
02:17:33,440 --> 02:17:34,440
Speaker 1: whether or not they have time.

2624
02:17:34,480 --> 02:17:36,800
Speaker 2: To turn it around who? You talking to today we're

2625
02:17:36,800 --> 02:17:36,960
Speaker 2: Going To.

2626
02:17:37,040 --> 02:17:39,160
Speaker 13: Talk to don, Fisher i'm assuming right don's going to

2627
02:17:39,240 --> 02:17:41,680
Speaker 13: come up in the. The five O'clock Hour, we got

2628
02:17:41,879 --> 02:17:45,040
Speaker 13: bob lovell got a big, weekend of high school got

2629
02:17:45,080 --> 02:17:48,119
Speaker 13: the last regular season, weekend for the fellows and sectional.

2630
02:17:48,120 --> 02:17:50,760
Speaker 13: Play starts next week and of course the girls with

2631
02:17:50,920 --> 02:17:53,560
Speaker 13: A lot of south side local interests coming Up Tomorrow

2632
02:17:53,560 --> 02:17:56,360
Speaker 13: Will invade gamebridge field house for four games, of the

2633
02:17:56,400 --> 02:17:58,920
Speaker 13: state finals which. SHOULD be hlaciously fun.

2634
02:17:59,040 --> 02:18:01,360
Speaker 2: I just Gave Some. Love to eastern green did you really?

2635
02:18:01,400 --> 02:18:01,959
Speaker 2: WANT to do.

2636
02:18:02,040 --> 02:18:03,480
Speaker 13: That, i graduated.

2637
02:18:03,520 --> 02:18:06,560
Speaker 1: There no that's right there was cool story we just

2638
02:18:06,600 --> 02:18:08,920
Speaker 1: had On the coach from shackamac where they let their

2639
02:18:09,480 --> 02:18:12,400
Speaker 1: student manager who hasn't been, able to, play basketball you know,

2640
02:18:12,440 --> 02:18:14,640
Speaker 1: at the varsity level. And they'd let him they Had

2641
02:18:14,640 --> 02:18:16,640
Speaker 1: To coordinate with eastern green to let the student manager

2642
02:18:16,720 --> 02:18:17,840
Speaker 1: come out to score the first bucket of.

2643
02:18:17,879 --> 02:18:18,440
Speaker 2: The game last.

2644
02:18:18,440 --> 02:18:20,160
Speaker 13: Week and that's cool it. Was, A Cool deal yeah

2645
02:18:20,320 --> 02:18:22,440
Speaker 13: jamie hudson's a really. Good Friend of mine, that's eastern's

2646
02:18:22,440 --> 02:18:24,160
Speaker 13: Head Coach and the shaka mac coach is a. FRIEND

2647
02:18:24,200 --> 02:18:27,400
Speaker 13: of mine too i like. Him a, great deal so yeah.

2648
02:18:27,040 --> 02:18:29,520
Speaker 13: IT'S those, are moments i mean those are. Really All

2649
02:18:29,720 --> 02:18:33,440
Speaker 13: cool moments and, jamie's a good dude and certainly right those.

2650
02:18:33,280 --> 02:18:35,840
Speaker 2: Two, Guys get along, right SO that yeah.

2651
02:18:35,400 --> 02:18:37,760
Speaker 13: There's i mean sometimes there's a, little bit of that

2652
02:18:37,920 --> 02:18:40,640
Speaker 13: not so much as there used to be In The.

2653
02:18:40,680 --> 02:18:43,480
Speaker 13: Past in green county from coach to coach. OR player

2654
02:18:43,520 --> 02:18:45,480
Speaker 13: to player i think everybody pretty much, for the Most

2655
02:18:45,520 --> 02:18:46,120
Speaker 13: part unless.

2656
02:18:46,200 --> 02:18:46,360
Speaker 2: It's.

2657
02:18:46,440 --> 02:18:47,879
Speaker 13: Lenton gets along well.

2658
02:18:47,760 --> 02:18:51,520
Speaker 1: It's funny because, when he called me the coach Called

2659
02:18:51,520 --> 02:18:52,879
Speaker 1: me from shackamac in My, Phone.

2660
02:18:52,879 --> 02:18:52,920
Speaker 8: It.

2661
02:18:52,959 --> 02:18:55,200
Speaker 1: Says lynton INDIANA yeah and when, i was in college

2662
02:18:55,200 --> 02:18:56,000
Speaker 1: we had a guy we Were.

2663
02:18:56,000 --> 02:18:59,039
Speaker 2: Friends. With named LYNTON yeah and, finally i just said? What's?

2664
02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:01,200
Speaker 2: His last, name is said none. Nobody knows his name He's. Just, He's,

2665
02:19:01,200 --> 02:19:03,560
Speaker 2: from lynton okay yeah.

2666
02:19:03,600 --> 02:19:03,840
Speaker 10: IT was.

2667
02:19:03,879 --> 02:19:06,120
Speaker 13: His name i see one of my, Good Friends, up

2668
02:19:06,120 --> 02:19:09,920
Speaker 13: here Kurt Bedwell was an all star baseball player Alone

2669
02:19:09,920 --> 02:19:11,800
Speaker 13: With me in green county back In The day for

2670
02:19:11,920 --> 02:19:13,920
Speaker 13: babe ruth and he, lives up here now But he. Was,

2671
02:19:13,959 --> 02:19:16,039
Speaker 13: A linton guy hell i think he was like three

2672
02:19:16,120 --> 02:19:18,000
Speaker 13: years older than we. Were at the time it's. STILL

2673
02:19:18,040 --> 02:19:20,360
Speaker 13: in Our class i think bedwell was a little. Bit

2674
02:19:20,400 --> 02:19:24,000
Speaker 13: OLDER than that but. I love those guys they're. They're

2675
02:19:24,040 --> 02:19:24,680
Speaker 13: fun as hell.

2676
02:19:24,879 --> 02:19:25,879
Speaker 2: Most People Start, dipping.

2677
02:19:26,040 --> 02:19:26,120
Speaker 7: In.

2678
02:19:26,280 --> 02:19:28,840
Speaker 13: Green county man listen they tried to. Get me to

2679
02:19:28,879 --> 02:19:31,440
Speaker 13: dip and THE only thing and i never did dip,

2680
02:19:31,520 --> 02:19:33,600
Speaker 13: once IN my life but I. Almost did, with hawking

2681
02:19:33,720 --> 02:19:36,360
Speaker 13: and remember hawking was. Like the woosy, Dip, it was

2682
02:19:36,400 --> 02:19:38,800
Speaker 13: like okay, you're a huge wuss. You do the hawking

2683
02:19:39,920 --> 02:19:43,520
Speaker 13: it was like, the zema. Of tobacco, smokeless, tobacco that's, Right.

2684
02:19:44,680 --> 02:19:48,199
Speaker 2: Hawking can't, CANDY we'll. Give, me, i think.

2685
02:19:48,240 --> 02:19:52,080
Speaker 13: Hey right Dip right right below hawking would like be.

2686
02:19:52,120 --> 02:19:55,400
Speaker 13: A mouthful, of raisins, that's right.

2687
02:19:55,879 --> 02:19:58,800
Speaker 1: That's right all, right john's up next still be hawking

2688
02:19:58,879 --> 02:20:01,200
Speaker 1: his way through, until s, don't forget of course to.

2689
02:20:01,240 --> 02:20:03,480
Speaker 1: Take over tomorrow night we'll be back with You. At

2690
02:20:03,520 --> 02:20:05,240
Speaker 1: NOON on monday and i thank you For Listening. To

2691
02:20:05,280 --> 02:20:05,959
Speaker 1: the quey company