1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Hey, great news, Casey, Oh yeah, I know you're going 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: to be so pumped up about this. 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: Okay are you? Are you holding onto your chair with 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: both hands? 5 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: I am now ted Cruz is pondering another run for president. 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 3: That's great news, is it? 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: Am? 8 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 4: I supposed to be excited about this. Didn't you do 9 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 4: that back in twenty sixteen. 10 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen, Well that was his year, right, you. 11 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 3: Know we were supposed to be as here he was wrong. 12 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: Well, we were talking about this during the break. 13 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: It's fascinating how short the window actually really is for 14 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: these politicians, Like if you're and obviously we think it's 15 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: super bizarre, but there are people who their whole life 16 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: evolves around being in politics and elevating themselves in politics. 17 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: And for so many of these people, and look, in 18 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: a country of three hundred and thirty plus million people, 19 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: there's a monumental amount of narcissism involved to believe you 20 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: can run it better than anybody else. Right, and I'm 21 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: at both parties, you know, to think of all these people, 22 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: I could do this better than anybody else. But one 23 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: of the things about these politicians, especially these people who 24 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: elevate to the tippy top, is there's a real finite 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: window for you to strike, and it takes a lot 26 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: of luck, you know, a lot of the you know, planets, 27 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: the ligne, in God's will, God's favor to. 28 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: For it all to work together. 29 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: Because we were talking about Evan By is a great example. 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: Evan By was on this trajectory, especially after he became 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: a United States senator. Hey, this guy's got president written 32 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: all over him. He's at the very least got vice president. 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean he is like straight out of Central casting 34 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: for a vice president. He comes from a you know, 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: a red state. He's non offensive, good looking guy. And 36 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: every time from like two thousand through really kind of Hillary, 37 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: his name always surfaced as one of the finalists, one 38 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: of the people under consideration, and he never even got 39 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: the call to run as a vice president. And by 40 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: political standards, he kind of did everything right. And so 41 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: it shows you. Ted Cruz twenty sixteen was supposed to 42 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: be his thing. He was the fire brand on the right. 43 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: The right's done with the nominating moderates. We'd lost to Romney, Well, 44 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: Romney McCain. We're done with it. We're no more bushes. Hey, 45 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: Ted Cruise is articulate, he's got all the bona fides, 46 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: and the. 47 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: Trump something obliterates the guy, and now nobody even talks 48 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: about Ted Cruise. 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 4: It's interesting you said twenty sixteen, because that's the same 50 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 4: time that the Great State of Indiana showed Evan by 51 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: the door. 52 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: Well, and it is when Todd Young beat him for Senate. 53 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: Well, you think about that twenty sixteen before, I mean, 54 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: Trump had been involved, but outside of me. And this 55 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: is kind of one of the reasons I got on 56 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: the radar of this place was I got the interview 57 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: with Trump. But I was also one of the few 58 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: people in the media who was saying from the beginning 59 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: he's going to win. 60 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: Everybody was laughing at him a joke. 61 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: I knew the moment he came off that escalator and 62 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: that speech he gave us that it's gonna be a 63 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: Republican nominee for president, and I thought he would win 64 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: the presidency. I remember doing an event after the first 65 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: debate with the Indie Star. They had several like they 66 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: were mostly like establishment politicos, and they were like, well, 67 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: let's just piss these people off as much as a 68 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: candle's invite rob and everybody watches the debate and they're 69 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: live streaming and commentary, and after the debate between Trump 70 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: and Hillary, they go to everybody about what do you think? 71 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: And all these Republican establishment people are they're laughing, and 72 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, oh, it was horrible for Trump. 73 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: It's all Hillary, it's all over. He couldn't anywhere. 74 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: And they get to me and I was the one 75 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: person he said Trump won, and they like people just 76 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: start laughing at me. And I said, you guys are 77 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: thinking about this all the wrong way. Donald Trump is 78 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: talking to a very specific group of people. He's not 79 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: talking to the nation. He's talking to people in Pittsburgh, 80 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: and he's talking to people outside of Detroit and Milwaukee. 81 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: And I said, you watch and what happened. And my 82 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: point in all of this is you think about the 83 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: Republicans who started that campaign in twenty fifteen. You had 84 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: legit rocks, traditional Republican rock stars Rubio and Cruz and 85 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: Ran Paul, and you're like, what a dream team of 86 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: people we have to choose from. Trump swoops in just 87 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: destroys all of them. And so now there is this 88 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: real question, especially if Trump doesn't get it together in 89 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: terms of approval rating and how he's viewed going out 90 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: the door. Who is the next torch bearer of the 91 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: Republican Party? Because if Trump's not popular, it doesn't bode 92 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: well for Vance A Ruby JD. 93 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: Vance. 94 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 4: Right, a lot of people are saying, well, obviously it's 95 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 4: going to be Jade Vance. 96 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: It may not be the case. 97 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 4: So Cruz is reportedly working to differentiate himself as a candidate, 98 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 4: kind of like in a post Trump era. Right, He's 99 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: trying to position himself just a little bit differently. He 100 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 4: opposed the suspension of Jimmy Kimmel Show, and he faced 101 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 4: him backlash because of that. 102 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: But is that all part of his game play? 103 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 4: He still he still still wants to be a leader 104 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 4: of the GOP, just not It's like he's trying. 105 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 3: To thread that needle, you know, like I'm. 106 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: Going to be faithful and honest with Trump, but at 107 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: the same time, I'm a different guy. He's trying to 108 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 4: say that he's this intellectual leader. 109 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 110 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: So, like the Telegraph has an article out about this 111 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: today and in him laying the groundwork running for president. 112 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: The problem again, Ken, Yes, thank you. 113 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: The problem for a Ted Cruise or really for any politician, 114 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: especially in the modern Twitter twenty four to seven media 115 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: world we live in. It's very hard to reinvent yourself 116 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: because the Internet and the memories are forever, which is 117 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: why when so many of these politicians can't do it 118 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: or come off ridiculous, and they don't succeed because you 119 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: never really do know the real them because they're shape shifters. 120 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: They always try to fit into whatever box is most 121 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: politically expedient in the moment. And for a Ted Cruz, 122 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: after years of being one thing, which I would hope 123 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: he was that because that's what he was, it's going 124 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: to be hard for you to reinvent yourself or go no, 125 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: look at this version of me rather than the twenty 126 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: plus your political history. 127 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: People have to look at it. 128 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: Well, you're talking about the shape shifting. I mean you 129 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 4: remember when Trump labeled him as lion Ted. 130 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: Lion Ted puts the Bible up, Hi tells the truth, 131 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: puts the Bible Downy lines called line Ted. That crowd 132 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis erupted. He did that at the fairgrounds and 133 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: the people went crazy. 134 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 4: Of course, Cruz called Trump a sniveling coward, right, but 135 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 4: now Cruz has been a defender of Trump. 136 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 2: His dad might have. 137 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: Killed Kennedy, don't know, didn't say it happened. 138 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: I'm saying it could have happened, don't know. 139 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: So he's really trying to balance this loyalty with Trump 140 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 4: but also appealing to more of a traditional conservative. He's 141 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: trying to thread that needle so much. And there's a 142 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 4: there's of people now that are I voted for Trump 143 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 4: three times, but now they're saying, you know, they're burning 144 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 4: the red hat, they're giving up on MAGA, although there's 145 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 4: still conservative So is that who Cruse is trying to 146 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 4: talk to. 147 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: Well, I'd think you've got to wait to see what 148 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: the mid term election in the direction of the country 149 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: looks like, because a strong Trump makes it much harder. 150 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: The problem for all these. 151 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: People is they've given into Trump so often they can't 152 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: run as outsiders even if they're not in the Trump orbit. 153 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: So many of these people Cruise included, have become basically 154 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: subservient to Trump and just carried his talking points even 155 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: though you know they don't agree with a bunch of 156 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: them that if Trump is unpopular, it's going to be 157 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: very hard to get out of it and go and 158 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: not me and present yourself as some sort of outsider. 159 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: You know, when you really saw the true colors of 160 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: a Ted cruise. And there are certain moments for me 161 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: in the Robkendall origin story, how did you become the 162 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: way that you are? 163 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: Why are you like that? 164 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: Different things? 165 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: It's a collection of things, but there are certain things 166 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: that really stood out to me that just like hit 167 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: me between the eyes and how phony these politicians are. 168 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: When Ted Cruz gave his speech at the Republican National 169 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: Convention in twenty sixteen, everybody knew he hated Trump. I mean, 170 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: he alluded that his dad killed Kennedy for crying out loud, right, 171 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: nobody would blame you. But he gets up there and 172 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: then it comes time to make the cell one way 173 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: or another, and he settles on vote your conscience. 174 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: And I was like, you are just like the rest 175 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: of these people. 176 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: You don't have the bollular area to say what you think, 177 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: and everybody knows what you think because you're worried about 178 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: being judged and how it's going to affect your political career. So, 179 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: mister Johnny tough guy, really is no different than everybody else. 180 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: Vote my conscience? What is that the leadership is that? 181 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: Well, that's him trying to thread the news exactly that's 182 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 4: still wants to be in good standing and if there's 183 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 4: a cabinet position to please still get that. 184 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: That's why I find it like to bring this thing 185 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: full circle because all the commentary and the Secretary of 186 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: States trace oh oh bow bye, the family, the legacy 187 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: career want to be career politician. 188 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: Diego ran for Congress and lost. 189 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: He desperately wanted to be in Congress, actually wanted to 190 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: be Secretary of State first. Then he found out Connie 191 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: Lawson wasn't quitting like he thought she was going to, 192 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: and he was gonna get his ass kicked. So he 193 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: technically explored running for and ran for one of them 194 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: two things, and then ran for secretary of State. He 195 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: is the want to be career politician. He worked in 196 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: politics much of his adult life in this country, he 197 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: is that. 198 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: And yet that's fine. 199 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: My point in all this is the bow bye stuff 200 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: is all fair criticism. But how willfully and naively we 201 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: ignore whatever side we're on when the when our side 202 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: is doing the exact same thing. And this is why 203 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: we're just a country run by career politicians who do 204 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: or say whatever is politically expeeding in the moment, Because 205 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: that's what we have told them, we will accept how. 206 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: Many times is too much running for president. 207 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 4: Because you've got you know, Ted Cruz obviously did it, 208 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: and Marco Rubio did it as well. But it's interesting 209 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: because when you're the heir apparent seems to be JD. Vance, 210 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 4: but when you're inside the Beltway you hear more rumblings 211 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 4: about it being Marco Rubio. Actually who is more impressive 212 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: to people? 213 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so like let's think out loud here, like 214 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: he ran already well Ted Cruz. Yeah, but I'm trying 215 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: to think this through. In the like post World War 216 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: Two era, you had Nixon who ran and law He 217 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: actually won the presidency in nineteen sixty but was not 218 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: declared the president. So Nixon did it, made the comeback. 219 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: Let's see, Reagan ran in seventy six to challenge Ford 220 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: and lost, but that was sort of like Hairby knew 221 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: Reagan was the better guy. We can't go against the 222 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: sitting president of the United States. You had I'm trying 223 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: to think of people who want Bush technically ran against Reagan. Well, 224 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: Bush ran against Reagan in eighty but there was eight 225 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: years in between it and he was the vice president. Clinton 226 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: ran once Bush ran once, Obama ran once, Trump ran once, 227 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: Biden ran three times. So it's a mixed bag, right, 228 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: it's a mixed bag. 229 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: On are you? 230 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: I think it's more or less you got to give 231 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: it time. I think that's sort of the lesson. 232 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 2: Right. 233 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: Nixon tried to become governor Californian loss, Bush was the 234 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: vice president. Biden was a huge gap between plagiarisms and 235 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: running for president. So I think if you eight years 236 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: is probably what it'd be. Twelve years, right? 237 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: Is that right? My I'm trying to do math on 238 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: the fly. It'll be twelve years. 239 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: If Rubio were to run or Cruz runs again, they'd 240 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: be twelve years between the last time they ran for president. 241 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 3: How old do you think Ted Cruz is? 242 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: He has got to be in his late He was 243 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: young when he got elected, but he's been let's see, 244 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: he's been there since twenty ten, right, so he was 245 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: in his mid forties. I'll say prices right, rules would 246 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: go over all, right, keV, I'll let you go first. 247 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: How old do you think Ted Cruz is? I'll let 248 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: you have first, stab at it. I got my number. 249 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: I think he's fifty six. 250 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: I was going to go with him being fifty five, 251 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: But I bet Kevin is probably right. 252 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: What's the number you're both over? 253 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 4: He's fifty four? WHOA December twenty second, nineteen seven. 254 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: So he was like barely forty years old when he 255 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: was elected US senator, right Texas. 256 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 4: Yeahs, so he and he probably ran on his youth then, 257 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 4: and they're still there. 258 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: They're always still there paratively. 259 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: He is young. It is Kendallly Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 260 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: Big headline for the Indie Star Conflicts, Confusion and Secrecy. 261 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: Six takeaways from the IDC Audit. Oh, Kayla Dwyer, Hailey Colombo, 262 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: friends of our program on the story there, and this 263 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: gives us an opportunity to remind you that I believe 264 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: we're on day seven since the IEDC Audit Indian Economic 265 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: Development Corporation Audit was released, in which it revealed thirty 266 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: three zero conflicts of interest. Yes, hundreds of millions of 267 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: dollars of your money that went out the door, much 268 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: of it to companies, organizations or friends of people making 269 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: the decisions. 270 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: On where the money was going. 271 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: Much of it spent on trips for state officials appointed 272 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: and elected and their family members foreign trips, people to 273 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: sit on camels in front of pyramids, tickets to sporting events. 274 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 2: A massive amount. 275 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: A reasonable person would come to the conclusion that there 276 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: was a massive amount of abuse and corruption involved in 277 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: our money being disseminated without any clear return on investment 278 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: to us as taxpayers. 279 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I still ask the question, how did Eric Holcomb 280 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 4: sitting on a camel help me? 281 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: It didn't. It helped him. 282 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: Oh there. 283 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: It is also how does a guy who was governor 284 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: of the state of Indiana end up with a sprawling 285 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: I believe it's twenty plus acres of beautiful land on 286 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: the north side of Brownsburg and a fabulous house to 287 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: go with it. 288 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: How does that person afford that he's really good with mine? Oh? 289 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: Sure, yes, on his governor salary. Yes, absolutely, Casey, no 290 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: doubt about that whatsoever. But the point is we're seven 291 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: days on on this and other than one guy, the 292 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: Tesla guy, what's his name, Jake Teshka Teshka, thank you. 293 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: I don't know why I always do that. 294 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: I think I'm giving him the respect and decency he 295 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: gives the taxpayers. 296 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: I think that's why I do that. Case, I think 297 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: I just answered my question. 298 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 4: I know you had a fight with him at one point, 299 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 4: but I do think he's more conservative than some of them. 300 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: Well, his response was, we need to what something shore 301 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: up the internal processes. Wasn't that his quote or something 302 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: to that effect. So hundreds of millions of dollars, well, 303 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: I mean it disappears a strong word because we know 304 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: where it went, but no clear benefit out of much 305 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: of it, and we know thirty conflicts of interest existed. 306 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: In your response, we needed to do what shore up 307 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: internal processes? That's mister representative, what you want to do. 308 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: Now we give him credit. He's one of the few 309 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: people who said a damn word about this. And so 310 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: you have one of the biggest stories, what should be 311 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: one of the biggest stories in the history of this state. 312 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: Massive abuse of taxpayer money, hundreds of millions of dollars. 313 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: Probably this audit was just three years, twenty two to 314 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: twenty four. If you extrapolate it over the life of 315 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: the ADC, you're probably at billions of dollars of bad 316 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: behavior with public money, and hardly any of these reps 317 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: or senators will say anything. 318 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 3: Yep about it. 319 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 4: Some of the findings were referred to the Office of 320 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 4: Inspector General, which seeks out waste, fraud, and abuse. It'd 321 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: be interesting to see what their report comes out with 322 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 4: At Delaney and Senator Fatty Cadora, they both said that 323 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 4: they want the Attorney General to be involved and they 324 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 4: want legislative hearings. 325 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: You've got the Senate President Rod Bray. 326 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 4: He said that legislature will evaluate possible actions. I'm guessing 327 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 4: they're going to wait to see if anything happens with 328 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 4: the OIG. 329 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: Now. 330 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: The one that gets me more than anyone, though, is 331 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: the Lieutenant Governor Micah beck With, who ran on this 332 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: all over the state, on what a corrupt, rotten, underhanded 333 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: organization the IEDC IS has yet to say a word 334 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: on any of this. He's the first politician in the 335 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: history of ever Casey to be proven exactly right about 336 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: something and refused to point it out. 337 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 3: He's not taking his victory lap. 338 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: He's not taking anything. So the question has to be asked, 339 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: what in the world happened to Micah beck With. This 340 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: is literally the stuff he ran on. He ran on 341 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: the idea of checks and balances, he ran on the 342 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: idea of exposing who these people are and holding them 343 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: to account, and then on one of his major issues 344 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: that he talked about all across the state. He gets 345 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: proven exactly right and not a peep. 346 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: And he's quiet about it, not. 347 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 2: A word, nothing. 348 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: He's basically in line with the governor on this, which 349 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: is he's. 350 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 2: The cop on South Park. Okay, move along, nothing to see. 351 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: And of course they're mad at me now for pointing 352 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: this out that he won't say a word. But how 353 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: can a guy who can't sprint to the nearest camera 354 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: fast enough have been proven totally correct on what these people. 355 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: Are and he said nothing. Nothing. 356 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 1: Look, I know he's worried about some things that are 357 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: going on. I know he's worried no matter what he 358 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: says publicly about some things that are transpiring. I know 359 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: he feels he's got to be totally subservient to Braun 360 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: now because he foolishly believes Braun can and will protect him, 361 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: Which is why after they were part of the delete 362 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: tweet club all here, whoever is running the Twitter account 363 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: that date could come up with was same when Braun 364 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: clapped back at Ryan Mears. Same, well, same you deleted 365 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: the tweet like Braun or same you agree with Braun's 366 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: new tweet, don't know, but everyone should be asking themselves. 367 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of a politician ever, especially when 368 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: who craves the limelight. This is how the IEDC stuff runs. Apology, 369 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: do craves attention like Micah? And he's proven exactly right 370 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: and not a word about it for seven days? 371 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 3: He should take the win. 372 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: That's too late now, I mean you've got seven days. 373 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: Well he had well, I mean he did this on 374 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: property taxes too, where he went missing for four days 375 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: and then like contradicted himself and then changed his mind 376 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: the next day after people got pissed off at him 377 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: when he went on Hammer and Nigel. So what is 378 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: going on with this IEDC? This is the bigger question 379 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: that everybody needs to be asking themselves. How is this 380 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: organization that powerful that. 381 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 2: Not a word will be said? 382 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: And other than a couple Democrats, you're not hearing anything either. 383 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: You notice that a freebie, here's the ball, tap it 384 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: in the hole, happy little tap tap taparu and even 385 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: the Democrats. 386 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 2: Won't take it. 387 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: This is how corrupt and rotten and underhanded this whole 388 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: thing is that none of these politicians, even the ones 389 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: who ran on it, won't say a word. 390 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 4: It does seem like the tentacles are law. So there 391 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 4: are a lot of concerns about the pay to play optics. 392 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 4: Did you see that nearly half of the IEDC of 393 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 4: IEDC Foundation donors also received contracts or tax credits, like 394 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 4: donate to this and you've got a contract. We touched 395 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 4: on that the other day. Somebody donated an undisclosed name. 396 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 4: Of course, you're not allowed to know the name of 397 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 4: the person or entity donated twenty five hundred dollars and 398 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: then they turned around and were awarded with a million 399 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 4: dollar contract. 400 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: Well, look, it's a and the reason we spend so 401 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: much time on it is it's everything we tell you 402 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: on the show about what your government is. It's a 403 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: glorified legalized money operation scheme, money laundering operations. 404 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 4: You spend eleven point nine million dollars on luxury travel 405 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 4: and entertainment on our dime, the taxpayer's dime, four point 406 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 4: three million dollars in flights, two point eight million dollars 407 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: of hotel, two million in event planning, one million for 408 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 4: travel agencies, eight hundred thousand for meals. 409 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: And it's they're all freebie's casey and all of these Politically, 410 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: and again it come back to this is telling if 411 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: you're hearing our voice right now, the IDC and the 412 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: lack of response from people in your government to this 413 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 1: audit of the IDC. 414 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: The facts aren't in dispute. 415 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: We're giving you the facts, the information from the forensic audit, 416 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: and all of these politically motivated people. And yet there's 417 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: a freebee right here for someone, for anyone to raise 418 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: their hand and say, I will lead on this, I 419 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: will clean this up, I will keep this at the forefront. 420 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: I will talk about this, including a guy who got 421 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: elected to the second highest office. 422 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: In the state doing it, and nobody says anything. 423 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 4: Well, Bron did say that his intent was to restructure 424 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: and call for greater transparency. 425 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 3: So perhaps they're waiting on marching orders. 426 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: I thought he said we were moving on. Didn't he 427 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 2: say we were moving on. 428 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 4: That too, We're moving on to greater transparency. You're listening 429 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 4: to Kendall and Casey on night THIBC. 430 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: Storage you choose what a couple. 431 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 3: What's going on with Lebron James. 432 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. Your husband told me last night he 433 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: was retiring. 434 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 4: That was the big speculation, right, But now people are 435 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 4: saying no, maybe not. 436 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 3: So do you remember back in. 437 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: Can we go back for a second, okay, because I 438 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: need you relay a message to your husband. Okay, sure, 439 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: he's probably listen. If he's going to change his mind 440 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: on something big, you need to know. He's got to 441 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: tell me he changed his mind because he and I 442 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: were on the same wavelength. I thought, and then you 443 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: told me last night he had a change of heart. 444 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 4: Well, when you talked to him, he was thinking it 445 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 4: was Lebron James retiring. By the time we went to bed, 446 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 4: he said, I don't know if that's what you tell. 447 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: Him in the future, even if it's twelve thirty in 448 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: the morning, He's got to text me, right because. 449 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 4: You wake up every morning a quarter after three, so 450 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 4: you would see that information exactly before the sun came up. 451 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: So you're listening. What are they talking about? So Lebron 452 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: James is entering his twenty third season in the NBA. 453 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: Now the great debate going on now is is he 454 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: the greatest player of all time? I think the consensus 455 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: one most people is it's Michael Jordan. But I know 456 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: there are some big Lebron fans who think it's him. 457 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: Any of us with an IQBO of seven say it's 458 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. So there's a real, you know, back and 459 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: forth on this. He set all the you know, the 460 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: scoring record, et cetera. There's nothing he's got left to prove. 461 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: He was the best at going to somebody else's team 462 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: and winning a championship. Nobody did that better than Lebron. 463 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: But he said, I got some big announcement coming up. Well, yeah, 464 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: and nobody knows what it is. And then the whole 465 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: thing started. Well, he's it's going to be announcement, he's 466 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: going to retire. But then people are because it was like, okay, 467 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: if let me, let me go back here. When he 468 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: left the Cleveland Cavaliers, which is when the stain started 469 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: on Lebron, he left the Cleveland Cavaliers to go to 470 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: the Miami Heat. 471 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 2: He did this big the. 472 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 3: Decision right ESPN. 473 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: Nobody knew what he was going to say. 474 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 4: It's a seventy five minutes special. Yes, yes, it aired 475 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 4: in twenty ten for him to. 476 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: Say one sentence, I'm going to the Miami Heat, right right. 477 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: And then he teased basically, it's like the big announcement 478 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: two point zero or whatever they were called. Second decision, 479 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 1: Thank you, Yes, and so your husband and I were 480 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: talking because we were going, he's going to retire, and 481 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: prims like he wouldn't retire right before the season starts 482 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: because they're the preseason games are starting. I don't think 483 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: he would do that. But then your husband was like, 484 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: Jim said, well, he's going to look horrible if it's 485 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: some just I'm going to doing something with Amazon or 486 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: you know, whatever it might be. And I said, you 487 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: know what, Jim, You're right, Yeah, he's gonna look like 488 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: a complete idiot if he doesn't. I'll go with you, 489 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: he's going to retire. And then you told me changed 490 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: just Jim changed. 491 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: His he was questioning it. 492 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 4: Well, Lebron had expressed regret about the presentation of the 493 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 4: first the decision back in twenty ten, so imagine the 494 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 4: regret he would have for the second decision. 495 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: If he's not announcing his retirement. 496 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: When is it? When's it come out? 497 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 4: I think if they already released the ad and it 498 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 4: is part of the Hennessy partnership, they were supposed to 499 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 4: do it at noon today, are you kidding me? 500 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? So he did. He did not retire, So he 501 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 2: is he is? He done it twice? 502 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: He's burned everybody. Well and well, I guess he didn't 503 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: burn people the first time. He just he screwed the 504 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: people in Cleveland. That's only people he burned. 505 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 4: Everybody was thinking maybe this was tied to Amazon, because 506 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 4: he's got a business partnership with Amazon. 507 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 3: So what is it, Kevin? What did he announce? So 508 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 3: it was just a video. It was a part of 509 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 3: his ad partnership with Hennessy. 510 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 2: Oh, people are going to be so mad about this. 511 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, just it just came down. It leaked out early. 512 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: It was supposed to be new, and you're right, and 513 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: it came out early. While we were doing this final 514 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: hour of the. 515 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 4: Week, he said, another seventy five minute special. 516 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: I think it's just sun It's just like a thirty 517 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: second commercial. 518 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: No, No, I think it's just like a like he's 519 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: just doing some thing with Hennessy. 520 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 3: Okay, it's like a minute long ad on Twitter. 521 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an ad. 522 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 4: You're Vans are going to be so bummed, aboples, because 523 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 4: they were really hoping for something a little bit more 524 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 4: meaningful than just a brand partner show. 525 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: This is why I first straight with your husban been 526 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: because this is where I was it was gonna be this. 527 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: And then he talked me out of it, and I 528 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: woke up. 529 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: All this morning and Okay, Jim, nobody knows basketball Jim, 530 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna retire. 531 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: And he changed his mind. Fine, you gotta tell me. 532 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: Yeah he did. He before we went to bed last night. 533 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 3: He said, yeah, No, I don't think it's a retirement. 534 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be something else. So I'm sorry 535 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 3: that information was not related to you. From from now on, 536 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 3: I'll bring you into the conversation. We're gonna even at bedtime. 537 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: People are gonna hate him over this, aren't they. I mean, 538 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: he's like, I'm. 539 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 4: Gonna be really disappointed by that because they built it 540 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 4: up like there's a second decision. 541 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: Okay, you're the media. You're the media person here. That 542 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: sounds funny to say, because we're both technically media, but 543 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: you're you understand pop culture and media and and and 544 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: and advertising. And I get that. There's like he got 545 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: a ton of extra publicity for it. But does it 546 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: does it anger people to the problem turning people the product? 547 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, they could turn people off to it. I think 548 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 4: that'll that'll go away, though, because if you're a super 549 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 4: fan of lebron, which I am not, you're gonna if 550 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 4: he says, go buy this product. You might Okay, I'll 551 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: give it a shot, even if he at least wants 552 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 4: to see if I Yeah, yeah, there's going to be 553 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 4: some people that are disappointed about that. 554 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 3: Sorry, what a bummer. 555 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 4: Huh. 556 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: This is why you don't let your friends talk you 557 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: into things. Because I was right to just trust my instinct. 558 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: And then my friend who changed his mind didn't even 559 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: tell me. 560 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 4: But but kudos to Kevin for having the information. 561 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: Good job. 562 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: That's some quick reasons Kevin used the internet. Good job, Kevin. 563 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: keV was like, I bet that leaked out. Let me 564 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: look and see what it was. 565 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, it is Kendally Casey on ninety three WYBC. 566 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: Come take me. 567 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 4: Time. 568 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 2: We'll tell that. 569 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 4: Let's do it from. 570 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: We don Okay, look, I know this is sort of 571 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: a reoccurring theme on our program. 572 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it sucks to drive to work every day. 573 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: I tell you what. 574 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 4: I left early today and I was so proud of myself. 575 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, this is great. I'm gonna get there. 576 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have lots of time. And then I pull 577 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 4: onto Washington and right away I was stopped. First of all, 578 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 4: a big cement truck pulled out in front of me. 579 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 4: No big deal, he's on his way to work. But 580 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 4: they move a little bit slower, you know. But the 581 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 4: thing was I could not pass them because there's like 582 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 4: a maze. 583 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 3: You have to go through on Washington Again. 584 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 4: It was clear for like three days when you could 585 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 4: actually move at a decent pace. 586 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: Now they're back to lane restrictions. 587 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: So basically the mayor decided you had too much happiness 588 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: in your life being able to have a clear path 589 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: to work. 590 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 3: I would have put a stop to that right now. 591 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: Like if you don't drive, you're hearing our voice right now, 592 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: and you don't drive in the Greater Downtown area, you 593 00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: can't begin to appreciate how awful. It's so frustrating, and 594 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: it's like everywhere. 595 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: That's what I think. 596 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like maybe I mean, we try, but 597 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: you can't emphasize it's everywhere. Everything is shut down or delayed, 598 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: like every point of entry basically to the Greater Downtown area. 599 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: You cannot go a desired route. You have to maneuver 600 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 1: in another fashion. And you know I was telling you 601 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: before when on air I said there was a great 602 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: Nintendo game that I played as a kid. 603 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: It was called. 604 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: Paper Boy, and the whole premise of paper Boy was 605 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: you had to get the papers on the doorstep. 606 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: You were a little kid on a bike, and there. 607 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: Were all of these things that would get in your 608 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: way to try to stop you, and you'd have to 609 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: ride the bike around the things. And that's basically what 610 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: the city has become is a real life game of 611 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: paper Boy, only I'm in a large automobile and and 612 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: this isn't a game, it's my life and like and 613 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: for you, I bet it's just especially frustrating because the 614 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: one benefit bit of where you chose to live was 615 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm very close to my job, right. 616 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 4: It should not be taking me this long to get 617 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 4: into work every morning. It's why I chose to live 618 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 4: in downtown Indianapolis. 619 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: You know, Tony mentioned this earlier. 620 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: I know we got into earlier when we're talking about 621 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: the city pass and the budget, and he's right about this. 622 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: In the sense of what are we trying to be 623 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: as a city. There is no clear vision vision of that. 624 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: And whether it's you who literally lives right outside of 625 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: the greater downtown area, you're getting screwed. Whether it's me 626 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: who has lived in the suburbs for forty years. I'm 627 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: getting screwed. I mean, my commute is a good ten 628 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes longer, and that's without the maze. This 629 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: is just because of all the bus lines and everything. 630 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: Like if everything we're operating as intended, and you just 631 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: say to these people in charge, what are you trying 632 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: to do? 633 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 4: What is going on? So there was a long line 634 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 4: of traffic and you could see cars turning around trying 635 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 4: to find alternate roots. They're like, no, I'm not going 636 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 4: to do this, the move of despair. Yeah, And so 637 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 4: finally a lot of cars got through the line and 638 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 4: then I was up next and guess what happened? What 639 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 4: the guy with the stop sign you walk right out 640 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 4: in front of my car. So I had to stop 641 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 4: and wait for the other's lane, you know, the other 642 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 4: traffic win the opposite direction to have their turn through 643 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 4: the one section that's open. 644 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: And I think the thing, I don't know if you 645 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: feel this way. One of the things that is most 646 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: frustrating to me is if they were just like major 647 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: road upgrades, where you would say, because I'm understanding of that, like. 648 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 3: Hey, you're filling the potholes, wonderful, right, you know, Hey. 649 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: This thing's fifty years old. We got to do whatever. 650 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: I get it. 651 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: But the things that are causing the delays are things 652 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: that will be of zero, zero benefit to me. Some 653 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: stupid bus line then nobody rides anyway, or a hotel, 654 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: a tax refunded hotel, right. 655 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: Or shut down Illinois. 656 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: And it's like these things are not a benefit to 657 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: society as a collective, their bright shiny object projects that 658 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: don't in any way benefit the daily person who uses, 659 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, the the common public service in the city. 660 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 4: I know, I know it's aggravating, and all of that 661 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 4: money going towards it, sure, well. 662 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: That is I've thought. 663 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: I've thought about that numerous times as I've been having 664 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: to take side roads back alleys that I think that 665 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: is what pisses me off the most, is that the 666 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: things that are causing my grief are never going to 667 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: benefit me in any shape form effact. 668 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 4: Right, even when it's all done, you're still going to 669 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 4: be frustrated because you won't even be using the bus. 670 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: That's correct, hotel or many other people. That's the thing. 671 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 4: This is all tax payer funded, right, So maybe you 672 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 4: should get a free night in the hotel, or at 673 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 4: least I should. 674 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: You should go. You should go suggest that to the mayor. 675 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: In fact, when you get off the air today, you 676 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: should go over to the city County building and suggest 677 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: to the mayor. So I think, here, I have a 678 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: great sight. 679 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: I help pay for this. Absolutely. 680 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: Can this be the Casey Daniels wing of the hotel? 681 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 4: No? 682 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely, definitely right. 683 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw this article about Americans 684 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 4: being scammed, and this happens to me all the time. 685 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 4: In fact, it happened last night as I sent you 686 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 4: that that text about how I was being asked to 687 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 4: take another survey. 688 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: Now you do think that was a scam. 689 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 4: Actually they were. 690 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 3: Asking questions about Indianapolis Public schools. 691 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: So you got a link online survey link like a text, Yeah, 692 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: look here, Now do you click them? 693 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 3: I did last night. 694 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 4: It was Jen from CS Research when it asked me 695 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 4: a couple of questions. 696 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: Now, I'd love to take a poll, but I'm not 697 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: clicking a link from a stranger on the internet. 698 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 2: Sorry, Like, if you call me, I will take it. 699 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: I did. 700 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 4: I clicked the link and it was two questions. They 701 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 4: asked me how likely I was to vote, and then 702 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 4: about Indianapolis Public schools, and it was two questions. 703 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 3: That was it. 704 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 4: And I don't know if I answered the question incorrectly, 705 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 4: because had I answered it in a different way, maybe 706 00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 4: there would. 707 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: Have been more questions. 708 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 3: But it was only two questions. 709 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 4: But right now Americans are getting nine spam calls a day, 710 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 4: oh nine fraudulent emails and seven suspicious text messages every week, 711 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: twenty five separate scam encounters in just seven days. 712 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 2: Now. The spam calls, they seem to come in waves. 713 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: Do you notice that, It's like you'll get a. 714 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: Whole bunch and then they'll stop, and then they like 715 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: pick back up again. 716 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 2: I don't know why that is. Does that just me? 717 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: Or is that happened to you too? 718 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 3: No, It's been happening to me a lot. 719 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 4: And i'd be getting the call about my house and 720 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 4: if I'm willing to sell, and what is my bottom 721 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 4: dollar willing. 722 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 3: To sell it? Now? 723 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a scam call or just 724 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 4: one of these corporations that's trying to buy up property. 725 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 4: But I of course always elevate the asking price and 726 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 4: they say, is that your bottom because you know we're 727 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 4: going to cover the closing costs. 728 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 3: For everything and any upgrades. And I always tell them, yeah, 729 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 3: that's the bottom line, that's it. And then they proceed 730 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 3: to tell me they'll call back again someday. Oh and 731 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 3: they never did, And well no, they do that. 732 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 4: The very next day, and I go through the process again. 733 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 4: One of these times they're gonna say yes and give 734 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 4: me a whole bunch more money. 735 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 2: Well, on that note, good luck on your drive home. 736 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 4: Oh, thanks you too, Thank you Rob, thank you, Kevin, 737 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 4: thank you for listening today. This is being Kendel and 738 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 4: Casey on ninety three WIBC.