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Speaker 1: Of course he is, because he's just diverting from the

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Speaker 1: fact that he owes you something from a bet last night,

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Speaker 1: and he's not coming up with it.

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Speaker 5: I told him I will happily buy like a palette

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Speaker 5: Swarth if I could actually get the location and where

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Speaker 5: coming up from. Nothing on eBay, nothing on Amazon, Randalls,

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Speaker 3: Should we chat with James, get it done?

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Speaker 2: Yes, James Boyd gonna join us.

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Speaker 5: I might need him to stop something slickers hotline.

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Speaker 2: Let's even from Baltimore right now, Good morning, James.

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Speaker 1: We have a major, major spat going on here between

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Speaker 1: Mark and Kevin this morning. There was a friendly wager

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Speaker 1: on the Cubs Reds game last night. Reds of course won.

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Speaker 3: To no the Red Series. Let's give the Reds full

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Speaker 3: credit here. The Reds have won the series.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the series. You see the point.

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Speaker 1: Kevin's a little sensitive to all of that, Marcus sensitive

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Speaker 1: the fact that he can't find what he promised to deliver,

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Speaker 1: and that's dominating the program this morning.

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Speaker 2: Can yes, can you hear us? Yeah? All right, well

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Speaker 2: let's dig into this.

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Speaker 3: I think that Jeff, you want to talk.

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Speaker 4: About paying up we had to hunt it down, and

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 2: Mark, please set the record shape did it.

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Speaker 3: Not in person?

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Speaker 2: I shipped so we have it in time for vacation.

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Speaker 6: That's weak.

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Speaker 2: He would have had in time vacation if you paid

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Speaker 2: him in a person I did. Couldn't find it in time?

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Speaker 3: I would the way Mark's talking, next time I get

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Speaker 3: this man, Rosie might have and Mark.

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Speaker 7: Man don't be following after Jeff doing that.

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Speaker 2: Let's figure it out.

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Speaker 3: Trying to resemble our boss in more ways than one here.

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Speaker 5: Mark, I would love to be able to pay the man,

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Speaker 5: But he claims he's found something that was discontinued in

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty one, and nothing is popping up even remotely

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Speaker 5: close to here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so James, let's let's get down to it.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 1: You were a joint practices yesterday the Ravens and the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. Last year was an abject disaster for Anthony

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I went back and looked, actually, and I believe he

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Speaker 7: and that might be the only good performance they had

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Speaker 4: But they were talking so.

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Speaker 7: Crazy to that man and telling him that, you know,

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Speaker 7: he was scared throw the ball and all he does

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Speaker 7: and Owings Mills, Maryland actually not Baltimore where they practiced.

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Speaker 7: But I thought that he had a solid day overall,

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Speaker 7: It's a lot of chunk plays down the field, but

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Speaker 3: So it seemed like James, honestly, quarterback wise, is kind

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Speaker 3: of what we have seen so far in Westfield, albeit

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Speaker 2: Of course, Yeah, that's what.

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Speaker 7: I thought for the most part. You know, Anthony provided

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Speaker 7: then for Dale Jones, just another efficient day, not a

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Speaker 7: there against the defense that's supposed to be really good

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Speaker 3: Again, you can find James Recap up on the Athletics

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Speaker 3: some great detail yesterday from the Colts and the Ravens

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Speaker 3: that joint practice again. Tomorrow's preseason opener will be Thursday,

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Speaker 3: or of course Thursday at seven o'clock. Some chirping from

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Speaker 3: Ady Mitchell, and that chirping included you boys.

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Speaker 2: To a certain extent.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we were standing in the back of the end

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Speaker 7: One of the one on one drills and Ady Mitchell

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Speaker 7: me and Stephen Holder and he says that bleep is

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Speaker 7: and was like, I told you, I told you, And

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Speaker 6: And you know it's one on ones.

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Speaker 7: I'm thinking he's just talking or you know, feeling a

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Speaker 7: little hyped up. But even in the team periods, Adie

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Speaker 6: A couple of nice catches.

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Speaker 7: The one time that one of the Ravens secondary players

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Speaker 7: the best receiver out there for the Colt yesterday, and

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Speaker 7: then that's kind of been the case the last week

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Speaker 7: or so, so obviously you just want to see it

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Speaker 1: James, tell me a little bit about the offensive and

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Speaker 1: defensive line play for the Colts.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was really interested in seeing yesterday.

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Speaker 7: Real quick Jeff, I know you love Adi Mitchell, but

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Speaker 7: you know, I don't know if Ady Catches is still

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Speaker 7: pump the brakes there and brought on hyping up Adie Mitchell.

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Speaker 7: I'll give you a few, but maybe not eighty. And

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Speaker 7: then as far as the offensive line defensive line, I

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Speaker 7: didn't watch much of the Colts's defense because I you know,

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Speaker 7: the quarterbacks. But I thought the offensive line had some

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Speaker 7: good moments early on. The actually had some very nice

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Speaker 7: it comes to Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones, and then

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Speaker 7: Johnny Taylor had some nice runs. But again in that

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Speaker 3: James Couple just I don't know, maybe post practice questions

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Speaker 3: for me. I know obviously your attention is more focused

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Speaker 3: to rookie corner justin Wally because it goes out saying

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he had a nice pass breakup yesterday down the

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Speaker 3: Okay, and then any clarity you know, I heard it.

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Speaker 3: Actually think it goes you that asked Shane about the

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Speaker 3: we'll be out there for a quarter and a half

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Speaker 3: and then Daniel Jones will finish off the rest of

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Speaker 3: the first half. That will flip flop a week from Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Are we expecting the other Colts offensive starters to be

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he did really say, and to be honest, that's

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Speaker 7: my fault for not pressing him more on it. But

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Speaker 7: we'll just have to kind of wait and see who's

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Speaker 7: the same thing for Daniel Jones as well, So I

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Speaker 7: if Anthony's progressing or not, because, let's be honest, he's

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Speaker 7: not going to be out there with the second unit

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Speaker 1: So what's on the agenda for the Colts over the

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Speaker 1: next thirty six hours or so?

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Speaker 2: How's this going to work?

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Speaker 7: Well, they probably rest and watch the film and break

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Speaker 7: things down today and then prepare for tomorrow's game.

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Speaker 2: Right example, looking forward to it. Thanks so much. What

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Speaker 2: are you doing with your day off today in Baltimore?

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Speaker 7: Well, not really, you know, up early as always the

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Speaker 7: body clock. As you all know, we'll be up at

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Speaker 7: six forty five, So always up these days. And then

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Speaker 7: you got to get back home and then write a

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Speaker 7: preseason opener preview about who I'm going to be watching,

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Speaker 7: so look out for that. You know, who could gain

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Speaker 7: some things, who could lose some things, and based off

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Speaker 7: their performance tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: All right, buddy, we'll look forward to seeing you tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 3: Save travels.

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Speaker 5: James, all right, pay up, Mark, I can if I

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Speaker 5: if I'm not able to ay man Jane to spend

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Speaker 5: the money, We'll give them my debit card.

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Speaker 2: James will up violence to everybody today.

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Speaker 3: Man, I couldn't agree with James. I can't believe these

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Speaker 3: I feel really bad for Colts fans with yesterday's announced

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Speaker 2: Right they gave They don't cut you any slack.

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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson Tomorrow night will be his seventh preseason game

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Speaker 2: We'll do it next. As we continue at ninety three

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Speaker 3: Aren't we breaking early?

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Speaker 2: We are again? Aren't we looking up there and thinking

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Speaker 1: I'm on fire today, Mark, it's I'm in mid season

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Speaker 2: Your clock?

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Speaker 3: Is that a fair?

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Speaker 3: I did see the Colts had several fall starts at

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Speaker 1: This is what happens when I stay up to watch

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Speaker 2: You want me to pay off? Well, yeah, you might

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Speaker 5: We got ten more minutes.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you, guys. I'm having fun today. That's

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind pivoting into a little Rick Carlo.

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Speaker 2: We will get to that. But here's the thing about

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Speaker 1: That's a special deal, right, It's you get a chance

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Speaker 1: You're paying gourmet prices for fast food quality. And I

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Speaker 1: year after year. I don't get it. You buy when

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Speaker 1: And I suppose it's still a great experience for a

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Speaker 2: It just drives me nuts. Now I am able to

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Speaker 3: I would agree on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I again, I think it's only a matter of time

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Speaker 2: The NFL, who's you know, trying to keep the leak

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Bolts, I believe for them pretty

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Speaker 2: I'll be real honest.

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Speaker 8: You know, this is a part of Ben Matherins game

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Speaker 3: And you know, he's a He's.

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Speaker 8: And I think, you know this year right now, and

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm projecting him as our starter in two

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I guess we're sitting here in the

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Speaker 3: Who else you're gonna start? Ben Sheppard over him. I

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Speaker 2: He's still pretty young, though, what is he I think

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Speaker 3: So if he doesn't do enough of little things, well.

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Speaker 2: Then he probably you know Rick, he's if he doesn't

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Speaker 3: Is I mean, Benick Matherin is elsewhere twenty points scores

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Speaker 2: I don't know that he's necessarily elsewhere, but there's a

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Speaker 3: It's a huge decision, and that decision is probably by February.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you don't want Matherin to walk for nothing.

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Speaker 1: How much is he going to get elsewhere to walk

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Speaker 1: How much is another team going to give him?

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Speaker 3: Well, I wouther think a former top ten pick of

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Speaker 2: To track something.

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Speaker 3: So I just think it's a monumental year.

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Speaker 2: Well four.

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Speaker 1: Good news is for Rick and his staff is they

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Speaker 3: I thought there are a couple other items that was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the one thing about I'll say about the

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Speaker 3: Think that's just the state of the Bucks. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: next sort of window in this next run? So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would Yeah, I don't blame you, honest at all.

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Speaker 2: So do you think that this kind of opens up

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Speaker 2: the window in that division for the Cleveland Cavaliers over

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Speaker 2: the next year or two, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, probably for this year? Yeah, I would say Cleveland, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they probably. I mean how I mean, look what they

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Speaker 3: did last year in the regular season. They ran away

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Speaker 3: from the Central as is. So yes, given Halliburton's situation, obviously,

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Speaker 3: whatever the Bucks are going to be, yes, I would

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Speaker 3: say Cleveland is the overwhelming favorite in the Central.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday. Colts had joint practice with the Baltimore Ravens yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into ninety three five one oh seven five the fan.

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Speaker 1: That song, that sound can only mean one thing, Kevin Bowen,

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Speaker 1: can only mean one thing. Steven Holder joining us here

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Speaker 1: on the Payless Liquers Hotline this morning. He was representing

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Speaker 1: ESPN yesterday at the joint practices with the Colts and

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Speaker 1: the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, mister Holder. How's the East coastering.

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Speaker 6: You, Oh, pretty good so far, you know, a little overcast,

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Speaker 6: but not rainy, and so yeah, we're doing okay, all right?

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Speaker 2: All in all, What kind of day did the Colts

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Speaker 2: have yesterday with the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 6: I thought it was a day of progress, frankly, because

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Speaker 6: I think so much of training camp is just trying

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Speaker 6: to figure out what the what in the world you're

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Speaker 6: watching and what it means. Right, It's not just you know,

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Speaker 6: who's making plays or what have you. It's also trying

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Speaker 6: to put it in context. You know, they're playing against

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Speaker 6: each other, so you get into the jersey out there.

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Speaker 6: I do think it means a lot whether you make

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Speaker 6: plays or don't against that team. And they consistently made plays,

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Speaker 6: certainly on offense, which is the better vantage point that

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Speaker 6: I had. I feel better about the quarterbacks after yesterday.

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Speaker 6: I'm not a big person when it comes to hyper Bowl,

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Speaker 6: but I was very pleasantly surprised. And they consistently made

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Speaker 6: plays against the Ravens defense, and that was a very

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Speaker 6: impressive secondary. So I think it means a lot frankly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Steven, it definitely sounded like read your piece. It

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Speaker 3: sounded like a really good quarterback day even for both guys.

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Speaker 3: You know, at the times we've probably fall under the

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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson highlights, but it sounded like Daniel Jones had

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Speaker 3: a really efficient day as well. Let's stick on the

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks for just a second. We know that Shane Second

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Speaker 3: said after practice quarter and a half for Richardson to

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Speaker 3: borrow and night than Daniel Jones to get the quarter

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Speaker 3: and a half coming up a week from Saturday. If

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Speaker 3: you had to guess, what does that final week of

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Speaker 3: the preseason look like? I mean, based off what Shane

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Speaker 3: said yesterday, this competition will continue through Green Bay joint

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Speaker 3: practice next Thursday, the preseason game next Saturday, but that

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Speaker 3: final week, no joint practice, the last preseason game in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Would you expect another end game split or do you

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Speaker 3: think he wants to commit to one before that final

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Speaker 3: game and give them I don't know a half of football.

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Speaker 6: I have thought about this and it could go either

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Speaker 6: way clearly, but I think the smarter route in my opinion,

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Speaker 6: And Shane he's going to ask me, but if he did,

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Speaker 6: I would say, let's make a decision after that second game.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you're talking about three weeks of practice, two

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Speaker 6: joint practices, two games. That's a lot of information, right

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Speaker 6: I mean, that is what's going to change. I would

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Speaker 6: say in that last preseason game where your opponent probably

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Speaker 6: isn't going to play anyone, you're not going to learn

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Speaker 6: that much. In my opinion, I think they know a

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Speaker 6: lot right now. Frankly, we've seen a lot. We have

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Speaker 6: we have two weeks of practice, we have a joint practice.

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Speaker 6: You've seen quite a bit.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 6: The separation really isn't there between them. They've both I

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Speaker 6: think acquitted themselves well, so there's nothing wrong with letting

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Speaker 6: it play out a little more. But I also think

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Speaker 6: you get to a point where you probably need to

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Speaker 6: move forward and you need to get the reps, at

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Speaker 6: least more reps with the starting offense right now. Splitting

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Speaker 6: them is great because you're trying to you're trying to assess,

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Speaker 6: but at some point you also want the continuity with

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Speaker 6: that starting quarterback, and the more that you get going

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Speaker 6: into Week one, the better.

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Speaker 3: Stephen Holder from ESPN he was in Owens mel Z

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Speaker 3: yesterday watching that joint practice and heard ad Mitchell's words

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Speaker 3: and then watched Adie Mitchell seemingly back it up as well.

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Speaker 3: You know, we got into a lot of Adie Mitchell

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Speaker 3: talk yesterday on the show Steven. My biggest question is

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Speaker 3: where does he get playing time? Like the talent is obvious.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's no denying that talent from my but

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Speaker 3: I guess, again, how do you kind of view wide

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Speaker 3: receiver plus I guess Tyler Warren's presence too in terms

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Speaker 3: of a It's a good problem to have on paper,

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Speaker 3: but what do you kind of see as consistent playing

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Speaker 3: time for Adi Mitchell?

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Speaker 6: I think it's a great question. There is only one football,

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Speaker 6: and there are other guys who are going to be

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Speaker 6: airmarked to get some of those balls, as they should.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Michael Pittman is going to get his because

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Speaker 6: he is reliable and he is a volume receiver. Anthony

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Speaker 6: Richardson in particular, it seems very comfortable throwing him the ball.

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Speaker 6: So he's going to get his Alec Pearce, they're going

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Speaker 6: to dial stuff up for him because of course, and

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Speaker 6: then Josh Downs, Mitchter reliable, Tyler Warren. Yeah, he might

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Speaker 6: get a few balls. I would say it is a

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Speaker 6: good problem to have, but it is a real thing.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how it's going to go. I think

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Speaker 6: with Ady Mitchell, he is the kind of guy there's

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Speaker 6: a conundrum there. And Jim Bob kou Or said this, Uh,

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Speaker 6: there's a little bit of a conundrum because he's the

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Speaker 6: claimed guy who he gets better with more opportunity.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: Well, he got the ball early in practice yesterday and

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Speaker 6: made a few plays early on, and then he starts

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Speaker 6: to feel himself and now you just can't hold him

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Speaker 6: back because now he's talking and he's he's you know,

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Speaker 6: he's vibing out there and he's ready to roll. That's

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Speaker 6: who he is, and he is a very emotional player.

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Speaker 6: So get you get more out of him by giving

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Speaker 6: him more opportunities. But I don't know where the opportunities

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Speaker 6: will come from. It is a real conundrum and I

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Speaker 6: don't have the answer. I don't think the Colts have

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Speaker 6: the answer, but I would say this they they see

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Speaker 6: there a guy who has I don't think this is

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Speaker 6: hyper bowl. They have a guy there who has the

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Speaker 6: ability in the long term if he progresses his ability

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Speaker 6: to be their number one wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I really believe that Stephen Holder joining us on the

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Speaker 1: Paydleftlickers hot line. He was at that joint practice with

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Speaker 1: the Ravens and the Colts yesterday. Obviously, quarterback is the

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Speaker 1: What are some of the other position battles?

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Speaker 2: How many position battles are there even right now? Linebacker

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Speaker 2: maybe not a ton?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, linebackers one, obviously, the quarterback we talked about that

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Speaker 6: and nauseum, but not a ton. And I guess that

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Speaker 6: speaks to the composition of this team. It's a veteran team,

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Speaker 6: or there are at least a lot of veterans. I

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Speaker 6: would say maybe there would be a battle for the

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Speaker 6: third corner if anybody was actually healthy, but they're not,

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Speaker 6: so I don't know where that stands. And then Justin

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Speaker 6: Waally getting hurt yesterday, so we still don't have an

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Speaker 6: update there. But there's not a ton of spots up

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Speaker 6: for grabs. I mean, this team, to me is the

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Speaker 6: composition of this team is already pretty clear. We know

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Speaker 6: who's playing where and what they're capable of this team. Ultimately,

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Speaker 6: their fate will be decided on whether the quarterback, whoever

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Speaker 6: it is, whether that quarterback elevates the team. And that's

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Speaker 6: just I think where they are, they're a good team

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Speaker 6: outside of quarterback, they're a good team. And then the

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Speaker 6: quarterback will decide the rest of it.

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Speaker 3: In my opinion, can Steven Holder from me ESPN with

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Speaker 3: this year on the Payless Slickers hot line, Stephen any

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Speaker 3: clarity on how much the other offensive starters will play

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow night? Like, I don't need to see Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 3: play football, but I mean outside of him, you could

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Speaker 3: probably make the case for the other ones. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think it's important Francy Erson to be behind the

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Speaker 3: starting O line for at least a bit. Any idea

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Speaker 3: on how much the other ten will play.

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Speaker 6: A little bit of an idea, I don't think it'll be.

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Speaker 6: I don't think the key guys will play. Certainly Jonathan Taylor,

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Speaker 6: I would be stunned if you ever saw him at

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Speaker 6: all this preseason. You can on defense, for example, you

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Speaker 6: won't see the Forest Buckner, etc. I don't believe Michael

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Speaker 6: Pittman's gonna play. You may not get the entire offensive

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Speaker 6: line either. And here's why, because, at least not for

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Speaker 6: an extended period of time, the Ravens are not expected

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Speaker 6: to play their starters. It sounds like John harvaugh already

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Speaker 6: kind of told shame Stike and how he's going to

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Speaker 6: go about it. As coaches tend to do. They discuss

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Speaker 6: what they're going to do in terms of playing their

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Speaker 6: starters or not. So they've had that discussion and shame

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Speaker 6: Stacken doesn't expect them to play a lot of their

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Speaker 6: key players, so they feel a little more comfortable maybe

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Speaker 6: not having a Quinton Nelson out there the whole time

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Speaker 6: with Anthony Richardson for example. Right, So it may be

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Speaker 6: a little bit of mixing and matching offensively for the Colts,

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Speaker 6: but they're okay with that because of who the Ravens

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Speaker 6: are playing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the great part about the joint practices

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Speaker 1: as you get two teams together and both teams can

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Speaker 1: specifically work on exactly what they want to do, exactly

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Speaker 1: the situations they're looking at all those kinds of things,

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Speaker 1: and then the game comes and whatever happens happens. But

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Speaker 1: they have the opportunity to put their key guys in

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Speaker 1: specific situations.

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Speaker 2: That's what makes them so great, right, Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 6: You can script it exactly how you want, like you said,

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Speaker 6: and to some degree, you're really just out there scrimmaging.

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Speaker 6: It's a legitimate scrimmage. You know, you you certainly scripted

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Speaker 6: in terms of like, okay, this portion of practice will

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Speaker 6: be read zone, this will be two minutes, et cetera.

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Speaker 6: But everything else within that is is independent of each other.

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Speaker 6: You know, the Colts call their stuff, the Ravens call

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Speaker 6: their stuff. And that's what's great about it. When you

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Speaker 6: are practicing against your own team, if you're if you're

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Speaker 6: a Daniel Jones or Anthony Richardson, you know exactly how

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Speaker 6: those corners are going to play particular routes. You know

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Speaker 6: exactly their technique, you know the blitzays. You're very familiar

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Speaker 6: with all those things. You see them every day. And

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Speaker 6: so here what you have is something you aren't able

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Speaker 6: to plan for because this is not a game scenario.

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Speaker 6: They're just out there playing. So it definitely forces you

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Speaker 6: to adapt a little bit more and have to kind

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Speaker 6: of show up and be brought eyed bushy tails. So

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Speaker 6: I thought, under those circumstances, for them to perform the

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Speaker 6: way they did, I think it means a lot and

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Speaker 6: definitely carries weight.

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Speaker 1: All right, to have fun at the game tomorrow night,

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Speaker 1: be safe coming back, and I guess when you get back,

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Speaker 1: it'll be time for school and your kids right now, right,

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Speaker 1: that's how it goes.

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Speaker 6: I think today the first day, that's I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, here we go, Here we go, all right, buddy,

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Speaker 1: Mike be safe, right, Stephen Holder joining us on the

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Speaker 1: payless Lickers hotline right there. So, having said all that,

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Speaker 1: like one of the most interesting things for you for

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Speaker 1: the Colts tomorrow night, just Anthony Richardson and how he performs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the obvious one, you know, Ady

659
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Speaker 3: Mitchell in a game setting, you know, that's we have

660
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 3: seen him have flash before in practices, so just I

661
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: assume he would get a good amount of run. So

662
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: looking forward him in a game setting, I did see

663
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: It might be a little thing to some people, but

664
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: I did see Spencer Schrader it sounded like missed from

665
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: fifty yards yesterday to end practice. I think it was

666
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: Jones got the starting offense into field goal range. I

667
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: think the Richardson two men drive stalled out. If I

668
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: read that correctly, Jones got them into field goal range.

669
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: Trader missed wide left. Trader has had a nice percentage

670
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: here in camp in this joint practice, but he has

671
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: missed several times from fifty.

672
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: Plus, which is what the cults have been looking for exactly.

673
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: So that would be an item that I'll be watching

674
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: for you know, you brought up linebacker as a position battle.

675
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 3: It's definitely one, you know next as iron. Again, we

676
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: didn't see Sire Franklin yesterday, so you know that is

677
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: not an answer we're going to get tomorrow, Jeff. But

678
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: I mean we're a month away from the regular season

679
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: opener tomorrow, September seventh. Ziah Franklin has yet to take

680
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: an eleven on eleven rep in this year, so is

681
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 3: that of concern? All again, He's back to practice, but

682
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: we didn't see him out there yesterday, so that's just

683
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: something to keep an eye.

684
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 6: Honest.

685
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask the total nerdy question that there are

686
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: some people out there wondering and other people probably haven't

687
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: thought about that much.

688
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 5: We be interrupt for a second.

689
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: Oh boy, we have we found something. Oh boy, I

690
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: was about to I was question.

691
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 5: I've texted your wife.

692
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: Oh boy.

693
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 5: She claims you are completely wrong on this whole situation

694
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 5: and that you're drinking kool Aid bursts Barry Blue. She said,

695
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 5: these are what my mom gets him. He's confused on

696
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 5: the brand.

697
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: No, no, no, this is official mono. She's texting me.

698
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 5: I'm texting with her right now cool lecture of the bottle.

699
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 5: She said, kool Aid bursts, Barry Blue kids drink. They're

700
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 5: a six count of Kroger cool.

701
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: Show are these?

702
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 5: She said, He's confused about the brand. I said, I'm

703
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 5: gonna kill him.

704
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that seems a little harsh.

705
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: Man oh man, Oh, he's got to show you the screen.

706
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: Now, let me see this.

707
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 2: Can you read us the conversation.

708
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: Kool Aid burst? Lol, he's confused about the brand. That's

709
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: why my mom gets for the kids. And Mark goes,

710
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm.

711
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 5: Gonna kill And Maddy laughed at that. Boy, I don't

712
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 5: know if I like that. So I've gone above your

713
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 5: head and you're the idiots here.

714
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 3: Nothing like Maddie dropping Rosie off on her first day

715
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: of school and here's Mark Dyton bothering her.

716
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 5: I told her, I said, I hate to bother you

717
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 5: over something so stupid, but your husband's given me hell here,

718
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 5: So you've got kool Aid bursts. You having me try

719
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 5: to go to Atlanta or Texas and I could just

720
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 5: buy one.

721
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: I want to seeing him at all these groceries.

722
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: I think he knows this, and he wanted to see

723
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: if you could find some Monday.

724
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 5: I mean, I will happily go to Smyrna, Georgia when

725
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 5: I go to Florida in October bring some back. No,

726
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 5: they aren't even available in Maryland. It says Georgia and Texas.

727
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 5: But apparently and And distributes.

728
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 3: Freeze backs food markets, food town. I'm seeing it everywhere,

729
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: nom day Mon, farmers Market, Randalls.

730
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: You need to look up the distributor everywhere.

731
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 3: Tom Thumb, Come on, Mark, I'm going off of Now.

732
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 5: Are you saying your wife is incorrect?

733
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 4: Now?

734
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: Yes?

735
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: I will challenge her on the air.

736
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 5: Yes, she says, you're confused.

737
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: Let's be honest.

738
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 5: I think we've settled it. Cool a kool Aid bursts

739
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 5: are coming your way.

740
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: Kool Aid burst, such a knockoff apparently what it is.

741
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: By the way, cotton candy beer last night wasn't as

742
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: bad as I thought it'd be.

743
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: What did you think it was gonna be?

744
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 4: Like?

745
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: Well, I thought it was gonna be horrific, too sweet?

746
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was hesitant, but I actually thought it was.

747
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: How would you describe the taste?

748
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 3: And I mean it is candy e to say the least,

749
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: But it got the job done. The fair was a

750
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 3: very packed house last night. The two dollars Tuesdays is

751
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: no joke.

752
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: What were the kids into?

753
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 3: Uh? Well, they have corn Dog Hot Dog, the dinosaur ride.

754
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: They did a Chew Chew train ride. Rosie was mesmerized

755
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 3: by the round up? Have you been on the round up?

756
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: Is that the one that spins around?

757
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 3: The one you stand up and you spin around?

758
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, that looks like that looks like hell to me?

759
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 3: It looks like the definition of hell. Have you been

760
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 3: on that? Mark?

761
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 5: No, we did go yesterday though, because two dollars Tuesdays

762
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 5: we did Crazy.

763
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 3: No One was the fair more than Mark.

764
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 5: Well, we did because the girls hadn't gone yet and

765
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 5: it's two dollars Tuesdays and like, hey, that's probably our

766
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 5: last time going. Although boom Bill Murray's band is playing Friday.

767
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 5: I kind of want to see that.

768
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 2: We'll see.

769
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 5: But uh no, we did Crazy Medium.

770
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

771
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, his band is blatantly uh huh free stage on Friday,

772
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 5: Bill Murray and the Blood Brothers or something. No, we

773
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 5: uh we went to that. So we did the Crazy

774
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 5: Mouse roller coaster. The girls did another roller coaster they

775
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 5: did like kind of like not a Haunted House, but

776
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 5: like one of those like almost like jungle gym things

777
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 5: we can climb up and going down slides and stuff

778
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 5: and everything.

779
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that.

780
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 5: So we did that, got some Keli milkshakes, did the

781
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 5: did all that stuff.

782
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 3: The dairy bar never disappoints. Extreme sculpting was something the

783
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 3: Bow and family is really interested in. Have you seen

784
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: this guy?

785
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: Yes, most impressive chainsaws.

786
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: I guess to sculpt, but I mean would I guess?

787
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, like real like the medium.

788
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he does that I think every two hours.

789
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: We were mesmerized by that.

790
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a fun time.

791
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: Talented people in this week there is really crazy.

792
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 5: I want Mondo's, Well you're not getting them, apparently about

793
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 5: to some scure kool aid blasts.

794
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: Agreed can happening today?

795
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 7: Mark?

796
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: Do you know what the I think? Do you know

797
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: what happens if people at the fair agree to bets

798
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 3: and it goes wrong, Well, they have to eat an

799
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 3: extra the red slider? Would you have to go on

800
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: the round up it doesn't go well? Well, apparently, okay,

801
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: I there are Mondos out there in the world and

802
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: it's your job to find that. I agree. How the

803
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: bet was agreed?

804
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 5: I agreed to this because you said your mother in

805
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 5: law got them recently and you said. I was like, wow,

806
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 5: they've been discontinued in twenty twenty one, and he said, no,

807
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 5: they're back.

808
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: Okay, story, did you know that that it wasn't a

809
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: mondo that you've been consuming.

810
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: It looked exactly a mondo.

811
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: Yes.

812
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 5: So, because just because your brain doesn't work doesn't mean

813
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 5: that I'm on the hook for something that's available in Texas.

814
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: And George, do we need to go back and listen

815
00:36:54,200 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 3: to the audio of the bet on the mondos? I

816
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 3: had nothing to do with what I drank at my

817
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 3: mother in law's house is right on the late mark

818
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: the bet was made on. The winner was for a

819
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: mondo six Let me go to Let me go to

820
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: the junkyard and dig one up from twenty twenty when

821
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 3: they were last made.

822
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: Well, apparently that weren't last made. Then you can get

823
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: them in.

824
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 5: See has discontinued in twenty twenty one, Jeff, I will

825
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 5: send you.

826
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: Then why do they have these other places? So to speak?

827
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 5: Just I don't know if you know this, but the

828
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 5: Internet lies. Sometimes just because there's a picture of something

829
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 5: on the Internet doesn't mean it's actually there.

830
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: Somehow, some way we've made it to the nine o'clock

831
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: hour without any blows being delivered by either Mark Dydon

832
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: or Kevin Bowen. Then we'll get back to that a

833
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: little bit later on, because I'm sure we'll not go away.

834
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, we've been talking a little basketball.

835
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: This morning.

836
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: We heard some comments from the head coach of the

837
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers where Carlisle not too long ago, And now

838
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: we got the Indiana Hoosiers who are playing a couple

839
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: of games out of the well, they're in Puerto Rico,

840
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: not quite out of the country, but they're going to

841
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: be down there, and they're going to be doing there

842
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: at least, you know, preseason exploits in Puerto Rico. And

843
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: joining us now from that site is Jeff Rabjohn's who

844
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: who is always kind to us here on the Paylst

845
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: lookers holloining, good morning, Jeff, how you doing?

846
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 4: Good morning?

847
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 6: Fantastic you guys hear me? Okay, yeah, So.

848
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: Are you reveling in the weather down there? Is it

849
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: perfect summertime weather or is it a little too hot

850
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: and humid? What's going on?

851
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 4: It's phenomenal. But by the way, was that a little

852
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 4: batty yankee for me?

853
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: For you? You caught that.

854
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 3: That was your walkout music when you walk off the

855
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 3: plane yesterday.

856
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 6: Jeff, Yeah, Yeah, that's it.

857
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 4: That's it. I walked off the plane Daddy Yankee crank

858
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 4: and that did the Connor McGregor straight.

859
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: This has got to be fascinating for you, Like, who

860
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 1: knows what you're going to see in the next three games.

861
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: Everybody's optimistic, they feel good, but like, this is a

862
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: completely different, overhauled coaching staff roster, everything from top to bottom,

863
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: wasn't it It is?

864
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 4: It's a holy roster. And the biggest thing is it's

865
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 4: not just a new roster as in their new players,

866
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 4: new faces. It's new concepts, new ideas, new points and emphasis. Uh,

867
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: it's about it's about players who can shoot the ball.

868
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 4: Big emphasis was three point shooting, which is going to

869
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 4: continue with high use recruiting moving forward. It was an

870
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 4: emphasis on players, you know, who have skills. Can they move?

871
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 6: Can they pass?

872
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 4: Can they create shots for others? I mean that's one

873
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 4: of the things that really stood up about Forward read daily.

874
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 4: You know, you really dive into some of the nerdy

875
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 4: analytics and his ability to create passes off one, two,

876
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 4: three durable moves is really high and it's a team

877
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 4: that that's you know, it's all about skill. They they

878
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 4: focused on skill. And I'm not saying everybody is incredibly skilled,

879
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 4: but the focus was on skill more than Okay, we're

880
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 4: gonna get too big, bruising centers and we're gonna pound

881
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 4: the ball inside and you know all that. Now it's

882
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 4: a different concept. You know, it's gonna take a while

883
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 4: to implement. And I think one of the things that's

884
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 4: always important to keep keep in mind about these kinds

885
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 4: of things is, you know, these are trip a lot

886
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 4: of it's about team bonding. They've only had ten practices.

887
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 4: Not a whole lot has been installed for anybody about

888
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: after ten practices. So it's like, there's really not like

889
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 4: I never evaluate score scoring totals. Old this kid hit

890
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 4: five threes, Well, he may never hit five threes again.

891
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 4: He may have had one great moment cool, but it

892
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 4: may be a one time deal. But what you do

893
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 4: watch is like, Okay, what are they trying to do?

894
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 4: You know, who's getting the shots? What kind of just

895
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 4: general offensive schemes are they trying to run. Does it

896
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 4: look like there's guys who understand how to move and

897
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 4: pass those kind of things, so there is a lot

898
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 4: to learn, but it's always important to be real, real

899
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: careful about projecting from exhibition games, as you know, if

900
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 4: you want the specific ieu related object lesson. They went

901
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 4: down to Tennessee and won last year, then didn't even

902
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 4: make Dancia Tournament.

903
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 3: Jeff rad John's peaks where you find his work, and

904
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 3: obviously he's got your coverage down there in San Juan.

905
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 3: Three games for Darren Devrees and company over the next

906
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 3: handful of days. Uh, Jeff, you guys were able to

907
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 3: watch practice last week and listening to Darren Devrees afterwards,

908
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 3: it sounded like he really has little worry about the

909
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 3: offensive end of the floor, which when you consider the

910
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 3: backgrounds of the guys that he found in the portal,

911
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 3: I think got checks defensive end, though a little bit

912
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: more of a concern. Is that kind of a fair

913
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: assessment of where things are at.

914
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if I would just go so far.

915
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 4: I don't know if I would say he has little

916
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 4: concern about the offense. I just think they're further ahead

917
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 4: offensively than they are defensively, and I think that's that's

918
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 4: because you've got guys who were more offensive oriented, you know,

919
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 4: Lamar will Kers. You know he's geared to make shots.

920
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 4: Tecker de Rees geared to make shots. You know, they

921
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 4: had different guys, you know, Josiah Miles and sophomore guard.

922
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 4: They got out of North Florida. You know it's geared

923
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 4: to make shots. Obviously, North Florida led the country at

924
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 4: the three point rate last year. So that tells you

925
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 4: sort of the system design. Miles and just need a

926
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 4: little further ahead offensively than they are defensively right now.

927
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 4: And that's why I also think you're going to see

928
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 4: a lot of emphasis when when the regular practices start.

929
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 4: I mean really you've seen it already, but even more so,

930
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 4: and when formal practice starts, you're going to see a

931
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 4: lot of emphasis on the defense. And we saw that

932
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 4: watching practice, really specific stuff like even when you're doing

933
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 4: two on two or three on three heroes, where are

934
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 4: you in certain gaps? Are you positioned correctly? And there

935
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 4: were times to restop it and said, no, man, you

936
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 4: can't be a step below the free throw line. You

937
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 4: got to be a step above the free throw line.

938
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 4: Now do it again, and do it right. Boom, blow

939
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 4: the whistle. Run them through it three or four times.

940
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of emphasis on technique, specific understanding

941
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 4: and gaps and spacing and then blocking out. You know,

942
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 4: he's you know, right now, he's got them to where

943
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 4: you can't go for an AUM, can't go for a

944
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 4: defensive rebound, and so you turn and block somebody out.

945
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 4: Block out first, then go get the ball. And as

946
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 4: we all saw with you know, some recent IU teams,

947
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 4: even with two centers on the floor, they gave up

948
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 4: some offensive rebounds that you look at and go they

949
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 4: just shouldn't be giving those up. Rewanted to tape what happened. Well,

950
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 4: three guys stood around and watched the ball like a

951
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 4: rainbow going up in the air, didn't do anything. So

952
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 4: I think you're gonna see points of emphasis about that

953
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 4: continue as they as they start to get into practice.

954
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 6: And I think the one thing.

955
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 4: About the Breeze that I've learned, you know, watching the

956
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 4: practice so often there's some other people, is that you

957
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 4: know he's big on there's certain fundamentals you drill all

958
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 4: year long. You make sure that certain things are put

959
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 4: in guy's minds. This is important. We're going to make

960
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 4: sure you drill it regularly. So I think you're going

961
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 4: to see those things be points of emphasis, not just

962
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 4: this year, but over the course of Darren Debrees' career

963
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 4: and during his time in Bloomington.

964
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 1: I still can't get over like, and when's the last

965
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: time we saw like the complete total overhaul.

966
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: We got what.

967
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: Ten I think ten transfers, a freshman and two walk

968
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: ons retained from last year, and a brand new coaching staff.

969
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: I know I talked about it a minute ago, Jet,

970
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: but I don't know that I've ever seen anything quite

971
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: like this at a program like Indiana before.

972
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: Can you think of anything like this?

973
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 4: Well, you know it is unusual from a historical standpoint,

974
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 4: no doubt. But Louisville basically went to the same thing

975
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 4: last year, you know. There there, you know, they basically

976
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 4: a whole brand new team. Now, it was a little

977
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 4: different as far as what you could put together. There

978
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 4: were still COVID years that some guy had, you had

979
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 4: six year guys and and things like that, and and

980
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 4: the nil numbers were completely different. But it is something

981
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 4: that has happened a few times here and there. Scut

982
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 4: sorry about that here noways started let me see that law,

983
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 4: but only it's totally totally unusual. It is different though

984
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 4: there's no question. It is different, and it is all

985
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 4: of those things where in the portal era you can't

986
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 4: do it. It's not like when Cream came in after

987
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 4: Calvin Danson and you had to start with, you know,

988
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 4: mainly just freshmen who you hopefully become sophomore so you

989
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 4: hope would become good juniors.

990
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 3: Jeff, I'll shift gears here as we close things out.

991
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 3: We appreciate the time because I know it's going to

992
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 3: be a busy day for you with the first game

993
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: down there in Puerto Rico coming up tonight. No viewing,

994
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 3: by the way, so Jeff, rab Johns and those boots

995
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: on the ground will be you're gonna have to go

996
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 3: to to get some insight into what happens. But Fernando

997
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 3: Mendoza and the Indiana Hoosiers, they have started their fall

998
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: practice and preseason ranked nineteen in the Coaches poll, obviously

999
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,479
Speaker 3: a big one in September with Illinois coming to town.

1000
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: If I got sick with Mendoza for a second, just

1001
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 3: in your best educated guests, how would you compare his

1002
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 3: skill set to what we saw with the departing Curtis Rourke.

1003
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 4: He's actually better And then that's gonna sound crazy but

1004
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 4: he's just he's a little bit bigger, there's a little

1005
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 4: more arm strength, he's just got a little more zip

1006
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 4: on certain throws. So he's better. He's got a much

1007
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 4: better chance of just making some really really impact plays.

1008
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 4: A big thinking about Curtis work is he threw the

1009
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 4: ball to the right spot a very high percentage of

1010
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 4: the nile, and that is a skill for a quarterback

1011
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 4: to have. I think the only real question with Mendoza

1012
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 4: is is he going to be comfortable and totally trust

1013
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 4: his protection? And I bring that up because last year

1014
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 4: a cow you know, he was wanting for his life

1015
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 4: about half the time, pressure came up the middle from

1016
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 4: both sides and he really had to scramble. Now, he

1017
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 4: made some phenomenal plays on the move. But I think

1018
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 4: with this offensive line Hartis Smith back, with Pat Cougan

1019
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 4: there in the middle now placing the great Mikadic at center,

1020
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 4: I think he's going to have a chance to get protection.

1021
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 4: But Mendoz is actually better. And I know some people

1022
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 4: maybe looking at Curtis works numbers and going what the

1023
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 4: world is there? Have you talking about? Telling you she

1024
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: can throwing springs him throw in the fall, you know,

1025
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza, you know, just he just has more physical tools.

1026
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: Jeff, always good to hear your thoughts.

1027
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: Have fun watching this new and completely overhauled into and

1028
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: a team you can't wait to hear what you see.

1029
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 4: Appreciate him actually looking forward to seeing them, watch watching

1030
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 4: them play three games against you know, teams in a

1031
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 4: different kind of uniform. Just see what what do you

1032
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 4: got here in August?

1033
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 3: Appreciate Jeff.

1034
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 6: Talk to you guys,