1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Line from Vall Heartbiner and The Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: A walkout of the State of the Union. 4 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 3: I could only hope, if only, because I'm going to 5 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 3: be there, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. Good to be here, 6 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: Good to be with you. Find everything going on over 7 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 3: at tonykatz dot com, live streaming in all the places 8 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: we live, shream the YouTube, the twitter, x, the Facebook, 9 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: the Lincoln's. 10 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 1: I don't even know where else we are. 11 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: This is the story Newsmax with the headline DEM's plot 12 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: walkouts boycotts for Trump's State of the Union. 13 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: If that's the case, do I still have to sit 14 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: up in the gallery? Or can I have Bernie Sanders seat? 15 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: Right? Can I have Al Green's seat? And does he 16 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 3: have like an extra cane laying about? 17 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna be fascinating. 18 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: So Democrats are weighing all of it, boycott's, walkouts and 19 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: competing rallies. So the President of the United States is 20 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: delivering the State of the Union as prescribed by the Constitution. 21 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: Agreed, it doesn't have to be the way we do it. 22 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 3: It wouldn't have to be something with all the pomp 23 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 3: and circumstance, it could be a one page letter, Hey guys, 24 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 3: everything is great, signed Donnie, and that would be enough 25 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,279 Speaker 3: that you understand that how. 26 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: We do the State of the Union is stagecraft. It 27 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: was never meant to be this, and we should be clear. 28 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: It can be this, but it doesn't have to be this, 29 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: not in the slightest the The State of the Union 30 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: can just be a letter written, you know. 31 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: In crayon. Everything's cool, have a good day, signed President 32 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 3: of the United States. That's it, That's all that has 33 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: to be done. But Democrats, some of them might skip 34 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: the event altogether. Others might leave and protest in mid speech. 35 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: According to Representative Jared Huffman of California, the only question 36 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: for me is which of his disgusting lines prompts me 37 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: to get up and leave, because at some point I will. 38 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what line you already said you're gonna do. 39 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter whichever one you decide, whatever thing you decide, 40 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 3: because you can't actually sit. 41 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: There because you have to. You have to act. 42 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 3: Out against Donald Trump, because after all, that's the whole party. 43 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: The whole party none, there's no policy conversation, there's no 44 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 3: real disagreement that they can engage. 45 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: Rather, it's all emotion all the time. 46 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 3: Ten there's nothing else. So I'm not sure how they're 47 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: going to do this. I'm not sure what they're going 48 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 3: to do. All I know is I'm scheduled to be there. 49 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: I was invited by Senator Todd Young. I'm going to 50 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: be in the gallo ticket. My plane ticket's already purchased 51 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: still to. 52 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: Get a hotel. I didn't know where I wanted to 53 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: be yet. 54 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 3: And the only thing I have to figure out is 55 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: when when you're in the gallery, you know, right you're. 56 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: Up there, you can't take your phone with you. 57 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: You you you leave that somewhere, right, there's the whole 58 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: system for that. I don't know if I can bring 59 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: my lighter and cutter to have a cigar afterwards, So 60 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: I don't know how to do that. I don't know 61 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: how to put that one together yet. So you have 62 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: to figure that one out, because because nothing would make 63 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: me happier than have a cigar and the Capitol steps. 64 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: I don't even know if that's a life out, but 65 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: worth a shot, totally worth trying. 66 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: So while they are thinking about, you. 67 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: Know what kind of signs they're going to use and 68 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: what kind of nonsense protests they're going to use, because again, 69 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: everything is about the sloganeering. Everything is about the emoji 70 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 3: slogan earing. This is how they talk. There's no actual debate, 71 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: there's no hey, we disagree in here is why. There 72 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: is only how can we attack? How can we kill? 73 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: How can we destroy? How can we maim? How can 74 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: we ruin? Again and again? Over and over and over. Right, 75 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: there's no engagement. 76 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: On the facts at all. 77 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: But I wanted to share with you another story. This 78 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: was Abby Phillip over at CNN, just to prove a point. 79 00:04:52,000 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: And the point is that the rallying around. 80 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: That you see is just proof of how corrupt the 81 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: media is. And you saved me, Tony. That's a pretty 82 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: stock line. Also, Tony, do you have a cold? I 83 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 3: don't know if it's a cold or if it's allergy. 84 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 3: So it's not your radio, it's not your live stream. 85 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: It's me. 86 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: And let me tell you, doing a live stream while 87 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 3: your nose is running a not. 88 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: An attractive look. It really is it? You look like, 89 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: my god, it's Tony doing a hunder Biden impression. What's 90 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: happening here? It's I think it's allergies. That's what I 91 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: think it is. 92 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: We saw how poorly representative Occasio Cortez performed at the 93 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 3: Munich Security Conference. She was a mess. She could not 94 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: answer about Taiwan. She could not answer about you know, 95 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: she was trying to go after Marco Rubio for his speech. 96 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: She didn't know her or where the last name Cortes 97 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 3: comes from. She didn't know about horses coming to the 98 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: United States. She's trying to mock him, and she fails 99 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: miserably because she has. 100 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: No what's the word, She has no mind. 101 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: She claims that she did prep for this. This is 102 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: what you're like with prep. But did Joe Biden prep 103 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: you for this? Remember he was prepping for the debate 104 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: with Trump. Oh gosh, so much prep. He's taking this 105 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 3: so seriously, he's doing so much prep. You mean you 106 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 3: got him to stay awake for an hour and a half. 107 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: Let's talk about what we mean by prep. 108 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: She was. 109 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: She was a disaster and complaining to New York Times 110 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: that her message against authoritarianism didn't come through. Oh no, no, 111 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 3: it came through, except it was a message for authoritarianism, 112 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: and you're the authoritarian. We got it, we understood it. 113 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: We're fully aware the kind of person that you are. 114 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: You want to control speech, you want to control dollars. 115 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: You're probably thrilled. That's on Momdannie. He's raising taxes in 116 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: New York. They're going to a ten percent property tax increase. 117 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: Never mind, they're going to go after pensions to balance 118 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: the budget. They don't reduced spending, no, no, no, they 119 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: just take more money. But hey, New York, you voted 120 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: for this, You suffer. What do you want from me? Oh, 121 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: some of you didn't vote for him, that's true, But 122 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you. I'm not gonna 123 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: get bent out of shape for what's happening in New York. 124 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: Leave and so we're clear because I've said this before. 125 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: You know, who are the first two companies that have 126 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 3: to leave New York? Fox and Newsmax. What are you doing? 127 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: Why in the world are you in New York? There's 128 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: no reason for it. What you have a couple of 129 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: hosts who live in New Jersey and they refuse to leave. 130 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: You'll find other hosts and. 131 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: They'll all move. So let's not kid ourselves. Why are 132 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: you still there? Why are you still pumping money into 133 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: this city? Walk away? New York is the capital of 134 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: the world, so you need to be there to do media. 135 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: Everybody is connected via zoom or some kind of video link. 136 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: I'm streaming via I use stream yard. Go ahay, it's 137 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: right there. I'm in my home, connected to my station, 138 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: connected to stations all across the country. 139 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: You need to be in New York. 140 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: Stop it, stop it. I think you're doing the shareholders 141 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: an incredible disservice by being in New York. I think 142 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 3: you're crazy. I think you're putting your staff at risk. 143 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: Not the high profile guys you might have security, but 144 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: everybody who makes them look good on camera. You're crazy 145 00:08:51,679 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: for staying in New York. But Acasio Cortes, she did poorly, 146 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 3: very poorly. And here comes Abby Phillip to her defense. 147 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: Abby Phillip hosts the show on CNN, which has become 148 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: more and more unwatchable. It doesn't matter how much Scott 149 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: Jennings crushes or now, what's his name, the mister wonderful. 150 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: Guy, Kevin O'Leary. Is that his name? 151 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: By the way, to me, mister wonderful will always be 152 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: Paul Orndorff. Oh yeah, you didn't know. Tony had a 153 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: little bit of the wrestling in him. Yeah, well, when 154 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 3: you were raised on Georgia Championship Wrestling and Gordon Soley, 155 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: you remember a couple of things, Yes, you do, and 156 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: here she is. Never mind that Alexandria Cossio Cortez did 157 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: so poorly at the Munich Security Conference. 158 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: Oh what about Trump? 159 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 4: A club for AOC, But the question is also what 160 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 4: happens when and the president, the actual president of the 161 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: United States, does very similar things on the world stage. 162 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 4: So look, I'll give you that AOC probably should have 163 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 4: been more ready for that question, But are we going 164 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 4: to really pretend that the actual president of the United 165 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 4: States has not made similar or perhaps worse flubs on 166 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 4: the global state? Bad answer is bad? Answers, what do 167 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 4: you think should happen to Donald Trump? Well as a 168 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 4: result of his bad answer? 169 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: AOC word salad? Do what about what. 170 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 4: Donald Trump in twenty twenty four said, I think Taiwan 171 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 4: should pay us for defective for you, John beryls Sean, Hey, 172 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 4: I'm just asking for you all to apply the state SI. 173 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: I think he makes mistakes. I cracked up that Joe 174 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: Biden when he made me. 175 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: Now let's take a moment here, because first you have 176 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: to apply the same standard to Trump that you do AOC. 177 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: It's not right to say these things about Representative Costio Cortes. 178 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 3: No one from CNN gets to tell us about applying 179 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: standards to presidents of the United States when you would 180 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: not admit that Joe Biden was not compastmentius, that he 181 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: was not capable of understanding his own mind, that he 182 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 3: was wandering around in France, that he needed the Easter 183 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: Bunny to direct him to the stage, that Joe Biden 184 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: had to run cabinet meetings because he could not. And 185 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: now you want to lecture to us about Trump. Oh, honey, honey, 186 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 3: are you out of your skull? 187 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: Are you out of your minds? We're laughing at you. 188 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 3: We are laughing at you, Abby Phillip, because you deserve 189 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: to be laughed at. 190 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: And I'll say it again for the people in the 191 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: cheap seats. She could have had it all. She could 192 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: have had it all. 193 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: She had the opportunity to be the show the only 194 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: reason to watch CNN. 195 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: She could have had on good guests. She could have 196 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: had serious debate. 197 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: Things we might have disagreed with, but it could have 198 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 3: been debate, It could have been something. It could have mattered, 199 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 3: and she's like, Nope, screw that. I'm just going to 200 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 3: be the lefty shill and I'm gonna have to deal 201 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: with with Scott Jennings because I want some ratings, and 202 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 3: I'll I'll just put on anybody out there to just 203 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: say anything they can to hurt Trump, and that'll be 204 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: that she. 205 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: Could have had a show, could have been a good show, 206 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: could have mattered. 207 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: That's over. It's over, doesn't matter. You actually want to 208 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: say to us, what about Trump? 209 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: For four years? We said, are is anybody looking at 210 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: Joe Biden? Is anybody paying attention to what they're saying 211 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: over here? 212 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 3: Is anybody going to notice that this guy is not okay? 213 00:12:54,200 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: Because this guy is not okay? And even after the debate, 214 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: you weren't gonna notice. After his time in France, you 215 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: weren't going to notice, after the constant slurring of the words, 216 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: you weren't going to notice. 217 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Abby, Philip, I'll tell you. I'll 218 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: tell you, uh, I'll tell you what. 219 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: I think Donald Trump looks older. I saw him yesterday 220 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: on Air Force One. I said, he does, he does 221 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: look older. What was really interesting is that while he 222 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 3: looked older, he sounded better. This is the second or 223 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: third time, because sometimes he sounds like really quiet and 224 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 3: sometimes he sounds like he's got that cold in his throat. 225 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: He sounded as strong as I have heard him in 226 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: a long time. He just looks older. 227 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 3: When he was giving the speech in front of a 228 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: soldier's with a fort Bragg, I thought he looked older. 229 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: I thought he sounded sensational. The actual voice, never mind 230 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: the actual commentary. The actual voice, I thought that was interesting. Yeah, 231 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: he looks older. I'm willing to accept the fact that 232 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 3: the president is older. I'm absolutely willing to accept that. 233 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: I'm also here to say that at every moment he 234 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: knows a thousand percent where he is. And all these 235 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: arguments of oh he's flubbing alw he's losing his mind 236 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: is garbage. It's horse crap. We're not playing in, we're 237 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: not buying in. But if we're now gonna say that 238 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: Biden had a reason, and then you're gonna say Trump 239 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: had a reason, and Trump is ten billion percent better 240 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 3: than Biden. 241 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: Trump has no issues. 242 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: No one questions his cognitive ability, and we're not questioning. 243 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: The cognitive ability of a Cosio Cortes. She's just stupid. 244 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: It was an embarrassing couple of days for her. She 245 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: she prepped and she failed. She's not quick on her feet, 246 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: she is not smart. She does not have an understanding 247 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: of history. She has no way to pull back. What 248 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: she can do is set a fire a bunch of 249 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: and underneath the whole bunch of democratic socialists and communists. 250 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: And she can be a formidable candidate for president because 251 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: you don't have to be smart. You just have to 252 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: have the right emoji slogan earring, and she's got it. 253 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: So defend her all you want by saying but Trump, 254 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: It doesn't but do anything. She's fine because nobody thinks 255 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: of her as smart. All she has to do is 256 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: say Trump bad and blank ice and any of the 257 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: rest of the two three word four word slogans, which 258 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: is all she's capable of grasping, and she'll be a 259 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: candidate in no time. 260 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz Today. 261 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: Zuckerberg is testifying in a case in Los Angeles. Tony Katz, 262 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: Tony Katz Today, Good to be with you, Good to 263 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: be here. Find everything over at tonykatz dot com. 264 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: The case. 265 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: Is about whether or not social media platforms harm children 266 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: now full disclosure, yes, but the question is is the 267 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: platform set up to cause this harm? This is KGM 268 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: versus Meta Platforms, Inc. And it's followed by a twenty 269 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: year old who's identified by KGM, And what she is 270 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: saying is that Meta and other social media platforms engineer 271 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 3: the platform to hook young users. They fuel the worst 272 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: impulses to keep you scrolling. So in this case, she 273 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: is saying that the platform utilized algorithm and other tools 274 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: to feed into her depression. 275 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: And suicidal thoughts. 276 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: Meta which is say Instagram and Facebook, Google which is YouTube. 277 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: They deny this. 278 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 3: They cite the safety features, the years of building on 279 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 3: these things, the parenthal controls is part of their defense, 280 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 3: and they are going to take a look at the 281 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: other factors into this girl's life. Again, I will say, 282 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 3: isn't there a place and a space for personal responsibility 283 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: in all of this? Don't parents have a job to do? 284 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 3: Don't they have a responsibility to monitor what is happening? Well, 285 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: I can't watch all my kids are having to just 286 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 3: get a fake one. You have a responsibility, of course, 287 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 3: of course you do. What do you mean your kids 288 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 3: it's their phone or it's their stop it your kids. 289 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: You get to make all sorts of decisions. One of 290 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 3: the arguments is that it could hold tech companies responsible. 291 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: Tech companies are going to use Section two thirty. This 292 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 3: is the idea of platform or not publisher, which is 293 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 3: to say, all we are is a platform for this content. 294 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: We don't actually publish the content. We cannot be held 295 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 3: liable for the actual content. Now, one could argue, well, 296 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 3: there's a question about how you serve the content, regardless 297 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 3: of whether you make the content, and that you are 298 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: responsible for. If that is the case where the plaintiff wins, 299 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 3: you would then be saying Section two thirty has been 300 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: pierced however you want to call it, and everything is 301 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: up for grabs. Then you could see a lot of 302 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: other loss suits. According to the reporting from Fox Business, 303 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 3: more than twenty three hundred related lawsuits followed by parents, 304 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 3: school districts, and state attorneys general in federal courts. 305 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: New Mexico is already involved in one of these cases. 306 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 3: I don't get to say with certitude that these social 307 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 3: media companies are somehow off the hook or they are blameless. 308 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 3: I don't think that they're blameless. But if we're not 309 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 3: going to note parental responsibility in this I don't know 310 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: what we're doing, and these people haven't. 311 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: Acted like platforms in a while. Tony Katz. 312 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: Today, New Yorkers are shocked to learn that Zaron Mamdani 313 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 3: is going to raise their taxes. 314 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: They are shocked to learn that Zaron Mamdani. 315 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 3: Doesn't know how to govern, that he is going to 316 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 3: raise taxes, and those taxes are property taxes that will 317 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 3: go up by nearly ten percent. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, 318 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 3: Good to be here, Good to be with you. This 319 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: was the reporting from Harris Faulkner and her team over 320 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: there at Fox News. 321 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: Thank you too. 322 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 4: Jathon Chafitz, former Republican Chairman of House Oversight and a 323 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 4: Fox News contributor. 324 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: First of all, I want to get your. 325 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 5: Initial reaction to how mom Donnie is governing at this point. Well, 326 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 5: when you have only governed an Instagram account and then 327 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 5: suddenly you're going to deal with one hundred plus billion dollars, 328 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 5: He's forgetting another option out there, and that is to 329 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 5: cut expenses, stop spending so much money, live within your means. 330 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 5: His rich little parents have never taught him that lesson, 331 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 5: and now he's trying to run a city, and he 332 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 5: doesn't understand numbers. 333 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: He is a believer. 334 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 3: That right now the city of New York is going 335 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 3: to have a shortfall, and how do they deal with 336 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: this reality. You've had this happen before where you live. 337 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 3: You've had it happen before, where local government tells you, well, 338 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: we're not gonna be able to afford this, that and 339 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: the other, so we have to raise taxes. 340 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: I this morning gave a gave a speech to a. 341 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 3: Local Republican club, a couple hundred people, and I got 342 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 3: asked a question at the end about taxation, and I said, 343 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 3: on the federal level, I oppose all income taxes. Income 344 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 3: taxes are an obscendity before the lord. But on the 345 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: local level, I do not mind that there are taxes, 346 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 3: and that there are amenities that communities want and. 347 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: They have to be paid for. That's a far cry 348 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: from when they say, well. 349 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 3: We have to raise your property tax and if you 350 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: don't want this, well we won't have fire services. 351 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: Maybe you should get fired mayor town council. However it works, 352 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: Maybe you need to. 353 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 3: Get fired, you need to get canned, and we'll bring 354 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 3: in somebody who knows what it is that they're doing. 355 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 3: It's pretty important that you bring in people who know 356 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 3: what they're doing. You can't just scream, well, pay the taxes, 357 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 3: or you won't have the fire put out if it 358 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: hits your house. Zorn Mamdani seems to be making this 359 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 3: exact claim. 360 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 6: At the heart of this path is a property tax increase. 361 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 6: This would effectively be a tax on working in middle 362 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 6: class New Yorkers who have a median income of one 363 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 6: hundred and twenty two thousand dollars. The second path also 364 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 6: requires us to raid our reserves. It would mean with 365 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 6: drawing nine hundred and eighty million dollars from our city's 366 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 6: Rainy Day Fund and fiscal year twenty twenty six, and 367 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 6: two hundred and twenty nine million dollars from the Retiree 368 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 6: Health Benefit Trust in fiscal year twenty twenty seven. These 369 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 6: are steps that have been taken before, but only in 370 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 6: moments of extraordinary external crisis. Mayor Bloomberg's response to the 371 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 6: two thousand and eight financial collapse and Mayor Deblasio's response 372 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 6: to the enormous revenue shortfall caused by the pandemic. We 373 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 6: do not want to have to turn to such drastic 374 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 6: measures to balance our budget. 375 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 3: But they are more than happy to turn to those 376 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: drastic measures. 377 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: The argument from mom Donnie. 378 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 3: Is that while the city isn't going to put a 379 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 3: wealth tax on, I mean, the state isn't going to 380 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 3: put a wealth tax on. And since they won't put 381 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: a wealth tax on, we're going to have to do 382 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: this because well, the wealthy should have to pay. It's 383 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: not a fair share, it's a nonsense number. Let's attack them, 384 00:23:55,080 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 3: and then we'll just keep having programs. Never mind putting 385 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: Islamists and the worst progressives in positions of power. Never 386 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: once does Mom Donnie's team consider, Okay, well we can't 387 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 3: spend none these things. 388 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. 389 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 3: They're going to spend and they don't care if they 390 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 3: bankrupt the city to do it. I have to admit 391 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 3: that I don't care if the city gets bankrupted, doesn't 392 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: doesn't matter to me. 393 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: I can't. 394 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 3: I cannot bring myself to care. Do they have budget issues? Sure, 395 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 3: they have budget issues. Into the billions, absolutely, into the billions. 396 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 3: You want an interesting number, I'll give you an interesting number. 397 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: This was a posted by h who was this on 398 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 3: the on the twitters Geiger Capital. Very very interesting bit 399 00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 3: of numbers here. 400 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: So the yes. 401 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: Is the breakdown of the budget ninety four billion for 402 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: the agency's thirty three billion dollars for pensions and debt services, 403 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: forty percent to the DOE, twenty six percent social services, 404 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 3: twelve percent uniformed agencies. So seven percent of the budget 405 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 3: is New York Police Department, three percent is Fire Department, five. 406 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: Percent of health and it breaks down from there. 407 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: The budget is one hundred and twenty seven billion dollars. Wow, 408 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 3: New York's budgets one hundred and twenty seven billion. No, no, no, no, no, 409 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: no no. New York City's budget, the budget for just 410 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: the five boroughs from Manhattan, for Queens, for the Bronx, 411 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: for Brooklyn, and for Staten Island one hundred and twenty 412 00:25:53,680 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 3: seven billion dollars. What makes that number interesting is, as 413 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 3: it is pointed out, that's the budget for the City 414 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 3: of New York. The budget for the entire state of Florida. 415 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: The budget for New York is one hundred and twenty 416 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 3: seven billion. The budget for the entire state of Florida 417 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 3: is one hundred and seventeen billion. 418 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an eye opening number. It's ten billion lists 419 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: with a B. 420 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 3: In Florida, there are twenty three million people, twenty three 421 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 3: million Floridians. 422 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: In New York there are eight million. 423 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 3: So to take care of eight million people, you need 424 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty seven billion dollars. 425 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: Hold a second, let me, I mean, do we do 426 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: the math this way? Is this right? I don't even 427 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: know my calculator can go this high? Maybe I turn 428 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: it sideways. 429 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 3: Right? 430 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: If I take one. 431 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 3: Hundred and twenty seven and then there's a lot of zeros, 432 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 3: there's undred twenty seven billion. I divide that by eight million. 433 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: Do I have that right? Fifteen thousand, eight hundred and 434 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: seventy five dollars per New Yorker? Is that it? That's 435 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: what it takes. 436 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 3: But if I have one hundred and seventeen billion, there 437 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 3: you go, and I divide that by twenty three million. 438 00:27:54,480 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 3: That's five thousand, eighty six dollars. It's takes ten thousand 439 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 3: more dollars per citizen to run New York instead of Florida. 440 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 3: Well Tony, Admittedly, in New York you have snow removal. 441 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: I saw what just happened in New York. No, you don't, 442 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: well Tony, I mean there is trash removal. I just 443 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: saw what happened this winter in New York. 444 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: No, you don't. They don't have a trash removal. 445 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 3: In Florida, they deal with hurricanes, they get the lights 446 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 3: back on. It got so cold that iguanas were falling 447 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: from the sky. You think that in Florida they have 448 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 3: a falling ice iguana budget. Maybe they do, but I 449 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: don't think it's that big. Someone get with Ron DeSantis. 450 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: Is there a budget for the falling frozen ice iguanas? 451 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 3: By the way, frozen ice Iguana's great name for a 452 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: band's better name for a tequila. 453 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: What what am i? Julian? Julian, we're making a tequila. 454 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 3: Frozen ice iguana, frozen ice iguana tequila falling or is 455 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: it just falling iguana tequila? Falling iguana tequila or frozen 456 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 3: iguana tequila. Honestly, we're gonna have. 457 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: To take a pole. 458 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 3: We need to get the boys in the lab. We're 459 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: gonna need a poll. We're gonna have to figure this out. Oh, 460 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: I'll have this tequila up in thirty days time. 461 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: To quote Neil Brennan, why. 462 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: In the world. 463 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 3: Does New York need all that money? Why don't they 464 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 3: cut a program? Progressives never cut a program. Progressives never 465 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: look at the situation and say, okay, we can't afford this. 466 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: They look at you and say you can afford more, 467 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: and then they say give us our money, and they 468 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 3: use the force of government to get it. 469 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: Remember, government is force. That's what it is. Government is 470 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: force in the end, that's what it is. 471 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 3: Even if you say, hey, I just want government to, 472 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 3: you know, have a military and enforce contracts. How do 473 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: you enforce a contract without force. Remember, I'm a liberty guy, 474 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 3: not a freedom guy. And there is a difference. It's 475 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: not that I have oppositions to the very concepts of freedom. 476 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 3: It's that I believe that a society thrives best when 477 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: there are a couple of guardrails, when there are a 478 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: couple of borders and we know how to operate within them. 479 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: When people know how to operate within the rules, that's 480 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: when I think people are most free, and it's easier 481 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 3: to engage in exchange and. 482 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: Enjoy. 483 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: When you have freedom and nobody knows the rules, it's harder. 484 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 3: That's why I'm a liberty guy. This is not to 485 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 3: say that I favor mass government. 486 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: No. I favor Article one Section eight. 487 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: I favor the leanest, smallest government humanly possible. But I 488 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: do favor some government. I'm not an anti government guy. 489 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 3: I just want government with inside a scope, right, I 490 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: want it within a framework, and I want that framework 491 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 3: to be outrageously, outrageously limited. Which is why I think 492 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 3: the Founding Fathers, I think the idea of the Constitution 493 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: is so remarkable, the how of America. 494 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: Here's how we do. 495 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 3: It versus the Declaration of Independence, which is the why 496 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 3: of America, which is of course a beautiful document and 497 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 3: nothing like it in the world. This explanation that we 498 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 3: indeed are free, which the Founding Fathers really believed. 499 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: And here's a really you know. 500 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 3: You take a look at Adams and Jefferson and Jefferson 501 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: it was tasked with writing the Constitution. And part of 502 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 3: that is because John Adams, being from Massachusetts, knew that 503 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: he needed to get other states to agree, and Thomas 504 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 3: Jefferson being from Virginia and being the largest state and 505 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 3: certainly the most prosperous state, if he wrote it, it 506 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 3: would be more likely to get passed. And he Adams 507 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: believed that Jefferson had better flourish of the pen than 508 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 3: Adams did. 509 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: He wrote in Jefferson wrote in. 510 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: More of a prose, and Adams was much more practical 511 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 3: a being, and certainly wasn't as jovial or anything like that. Right, 512 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 3: But we come to the Constitution and how Madison is 513 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 3: considered the father of the Constitution but didn't necessarily engage 514 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 3: in the full writing of the Constitution. 515 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: I have yet to be convinced that somehow there's something better. 516 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: The left will tell you, well, look at the South 517 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 3: African Constitution I have. 518 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: It sucks. 519 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 3: And if you buy into the South African Constitution, holy hell, 520 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: are you not allowed anywhere near power in my country? 521 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 3: Oh dear God. But I believe in this small government. 522 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 3: And that is a government that says we can't afford 523 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: to do all these things. It makes the hard decisions. 524 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 3: It says no. Mom, Donnie doesn't say know, except to 525 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 3: you when you say I want to keep my money, Mom, 526 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 3: Donnie says no. Why are people staying? You are watching 527 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 3: the last pages of Atlas Shrugged come to life. 528 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: And it's only a matter of time before the lights 529 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: go out. 530 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 3: I don't know if Florida's Galt's gulch me I happen 531 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 3: to like the Midwest, but it's certainly better than whatever 532 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 3: the hellscape is that New York is offering. I'm Tony 533 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 3: Katz and this it's Tony Katz Today. Talks continue between 534 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 3: Russia and Ukraine. 535 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: Oh they're not done yet. They're still talking. 536 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: And Witkopf is saying they're gonna keep having conversations and 537 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: they're gonna keep working towards peace. Tell me when they 538 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 3: get there, Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, good to be here, 539 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 3: Good to be with you. Tell me when they get there, 540 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: because it would. 541 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: Seem to me that they're not there at all. 542 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: Putin doesn't want to be there. And Zelenski's argument is 543 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 3: you're all crazy. 544 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: He's the problem. It's not a support of Zelenski, you know, 545 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. 546 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 3: I don't think he's a he's the greatest guy in 547 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 3: the world, but he is the one who's been invaded. 548 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 3: Graine's the one that's been invaded. And you don't have 549 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 3: any movement from NATO to try and stop this. There 550 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 3: doesn't seem to be enough pressure on here to try 551 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 3: and put an end to this. So all right, all 552 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 3: you have is more chit chat and jibber jabber and 553 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 3: all the rest. You don't have. 554 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: Anything actually done. 555 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 3: I had hoped, and certainly I did think that we 556 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 3: would have had this done already. 557 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: I don't expect this to get done. 558 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 3: I will be shocked if all of a sudden I hear, hey, 559 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 3: there's a deal they're gonna keep working on They're gonna 560 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: keep working on it. But there is no part of 561 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 3: me that believes that Vladimir Putin would adhere. 562 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: To any deal for any length of time. A deal 563 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: is not. 564 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 3: Worth the paper it's written on when dealing with Flatimir Poot. 565 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 3: I think we've proven this by now, which could be. 566 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: Part of the problem. 567 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 3: The White House briefing is set to begin. I will 568 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 3: bring it to you in full. 569 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: Keep it here. 570 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today,