1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: I have some great news for you. Oh good, I 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: know you were just itching for some great news. Yes, 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: are you sitting down? 4 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: I am. 5 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 3: Are you ready for this? 6 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Yes? 7 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 3: Are you ready for this? Jelly? 8 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: Give it to me. 9 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: It looks like there's not one, but two massive data 10 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: centers coming to Central Indiana. 11 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 4: I'm smelling what you're stepping in. Is that good news? 12 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 5: Well? 13 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: I mean you're going to get the higher utility bills. Oh, 14 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: you're going to get the draining of natural resources. You're 15 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: going to get the evisceration of beautiful farm land. 16 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 5: What is there not to be excited. 17 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: About, Casey. 18 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 6: So the Lebanon City Planning Commission they approved a eight 19 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 6: hundred million dollar data center. They did that Monday evening. 20 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 6: Center's going to occupy fifteen hundred acres. 21 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: Of farmland in the Leap District. 22 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: Yes, sleep our old piles. Leap funded the Innovation District 23 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: out there in Elebanon, funded by you, by the way, 24 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: by the Indian Economic Development Corporation, which is you. And luckily, 25 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: case the IDC is totally above board. There's no allegations 26 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: of shenanigans. It's very transparent. Everyone should feel great about 27 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: this endeavor. 28 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 4: So the mayor there, you know him? 29 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 3: What's healthy, Matt? 30 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 6: Yeah? 31 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 3: Are you there, healthy, Matt Gentry? 32 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 4: Yes, our friend, the mayor, Mayor Gentry. 33 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 6: He said the development will not cost taxpayers anything, and 34 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 6: it's expected to generate significant tax revenue over the next 35 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 6: fifteen years. 36 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: Whoa for whom? Tax revenue for whom? Who's getting all 37 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: this tax revenue? You know what would be great is 38 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: if we knew how the IDC works and how that 39 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: land got acquired, because I think LEAP has cost the taxpayers. See, 40 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: this is what we need a little clarification on. I 41 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: think LEAP has cost the taxpayers, by the ADC's own admission, 42 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: in the very little speck of transparency we can get 43 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: out of those people, I think the IDC has cost 44 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: the tax payers a lot of money. 45 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 6: Casey, speaking of lack of transparency, the Citizens Action Coalition, 46 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 6: they have some concerns about see. 47 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: The CAAC, the CAC, the CACK. 48 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 6: Yes, they said that this does lack transparency, especially around 49 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 6: energy sourcing. 50 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: There are potential. 51 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: Rate hikes for existing utility. 52 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 6: Customers, heikes, absolutely, and there are some broader regional impacts, 53 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 6: including Marion County. 54 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 3: But wait, there's more. 55 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: There is, Well, you told me that there is not one, 56 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: but two data centers planned here in central Indiana. 57 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 6: Construction the one in Lebanon's is supposed to begin in 58 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 6: a couple months. Yes, not one, but two. The Metropolitan 59 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 6: Development Commission voted eight to one yesterday to approve a 60 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 6: rezoning request for a proposed Google Data center campus. 61 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: Now, who's did it say? Who the one is going 62 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 1: to be in Lebanon? What mega corporation that was that's 63 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: going in there in that facility? Because Google is a 64 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: name that I recognize. And yes, the people are quite upset. 65 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: On the south side of Indianapolis where this is going 66 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: to go. There was an uproar of citizenry that are 67 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 1: very concerned about a variety of things, many of them 68 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: sell spelled up by the CAC in the in the 69 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: monstrosity going out there in Lebanon. 70 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: And as usual, these people. 71 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: Were ignored in the order in which they were received, 72 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: and the City of Indianapolis essentially has said, smooch both 73 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: of our butt cheeks and you'll be enjoying your data center. 74 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: Enjoy the scenery. People. 75 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 6: The one in Franklin Township, it would convert four hundred 76 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 6: and eighty six acres of farmland into a data center. 77 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: It's a complex. 78 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: Now there's just a data center, yes, cent data center complex. 79 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: Okay. 80 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: So then there's one being proposed out in Monrovia. I 81 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: think there's one in Frankfurt. If I recall, look, this 82 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: is going to become our existence. This is the this 83 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: is the dystopian existence for you hoosiers twenty years down 84 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: the road is just looking at these these ugly, lifeless, 85 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: person less in most cases, facilities that just suck resources 86 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: and make everything more expensive for you. Get ready, bal 87 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: you're going to end for a problem. And I think 88 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: what is most frustrating is no one, no one is 89 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: willing to step up in elected office and go okay, 90 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: this stops here. Sometimes you'll get the citizens that become 91 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: so enraged that they've been able to delay them, or 92 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: alter them, or at the very least get them out 93 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: of their community. But it always takes this just outrage 94 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: of people. Where are the politicians? Why do they want 95 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: these things? They're all abated, the buildings, all these are 96 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: getting these abatements, they're all getting these special tax brakes. 97 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: Why would you want. 98 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: This for a long time? 99 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, hey casey, Yeah, because not only are they 100 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: getting these property tax abatements, but then they get these 101 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: special sales tax things and blah blah blah blah blah, 102 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: And why would you want that in your community? Why 103 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: would you want to say this is what we want. 104 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: Wherever it is, southside of Indianapolis, City of Lebanon, Monrovia, Frankfurt, 105 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: wherever these things are going, I'm sure they'll get to me. 106 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 3: Event in warehouse Burg. 107 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 4: We'll put it next to the aquatic side. 108 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: Probably, yes, yes, thank you, Casey. You've just given them 109 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: a fabulous idea. They call it f Rob Kendall Plaza. 110 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: The pool and the data center will be right next 111 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: to each other. Why would you why would you want? 112 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: A big part of being an elected person, a municipal 113 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: government elected person is what do we want our community 114 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: to be? What do we represent? And look, the warehouses 115 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: are bad enough, right because they're just lifeless buildings in 116 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: which people come and go and they don't They're not 117 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: a part of the community. They're just a transactional building, 118 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: right like we exist, we sit here, we make money, 119 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: and we pay you some money. 120 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: Like that. That's it. 121 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: They're not in these warehouses, aren't entrench part of the community. 122 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: They don't really buy in large contribute to the community 123 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: outside of property taxes in many cases. But the data 124 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: centers are even worse. At least there are human beings 125 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: who interact with the warehouses. The data centers are like 126 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: some Orwellian, like just do doom buildings. 127 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 4: Sucking up energy? 128 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, why is an elected dimension? 129 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: Would you be like, yes, we recognize these people, and really, 130 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: with all the abatements of special tax incentives, it's decades 131 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: before they actually start contributing financially in some cases. 132 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: But on top of that, why would you want that 133 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 3: to be your community? 134 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: When we think of you Lebanon, Monrovia, Frankfurt, is. 135 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 3: That what you want people to think about? 136 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 6: The one in Franklin Township. The final vote is expected 137 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 6: on September eighth. 138 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw this. Do you remember 139 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 4: we went to Chicago. 140 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 6: On the drive back, now this was in Illinois, but 141 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 6: I noticed a huge billboard. 142 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 4: It was like data centers are coming. 143 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 6: Uh, like they were trying to convince you how wonderful 144 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 6: sure is going to be? 145 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: Well, yes, it's Orwellian they want you. 146 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I get that there is a certain 147 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: need in a changing technological world. In which we live 148 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: to have the ability to run certain things. But what 149 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: the case that I'm making is our entire landscape is changing. 150 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: These data centers are not consistent with the character of 151 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: the area. They're not contributing to the community. You might 152 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: be able to make a case that they benefit society 153 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: is a collective in the sense of hey, around the world, 154 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: Google having operation centers will be good for some guy 155 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: in Hong Kong. But what the hell do I care 156 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: about Google's global footprint? 157 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, the one in Franklin Township. The projects being led 158 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 6: by a Google subsidy, deep Meadow Ventures subsidiary. 159 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 4: You ever one of them? What's it called deep Meadow Ventures? 160 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: Oh? 161 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: Boy, that just sounds like a a place where where 162 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: nothing good is going to be taking place. 163 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: We give it this. 164 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 4: Pretty flowery name to make you think. 165 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: You think that name sounds flowery, deep meadow. I was 166 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: picturing like places where bodies are stored or something. Okay, 167 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: where did Gacy hide the bodies that he couldn't fit 168 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: in the crass space in the deep meadow, in the. 169 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 4: Deep meadow down by the stream? Okay? 170 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 6: So, speaking of utility costs and energy, the longtime utility 171 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 6: consumer Counselor William Fine. He's leaving his job on August 172 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 6: thirty first, And this is a quote setting up an 173 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 6: opportunity for Governor Mike Braun to have a direct impact 174 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 6: on utility issues in the state. 175 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: Well, given what Bron's done so far, everybody better cling 176 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: to their wallets with bold hands like grim death to 177 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: steal a sign, steal a Seinfeld line there, because everything 178 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: Braun has done has been in favor us far of 179 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: the utilities of you paying more and of these monstrosities 180 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: that aren't going to cause everybody's utility rates to skyrocket. 181 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: That has been the Braun mo thus far. We have 182 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: a business first, taxpayer last modus operandi in this state. 183 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 3: That's what we are. 184 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: If you look at where the tax breaks, the meaningful 185 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: tax breaks have gone in the past decade and a 186 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: half here in Indiana, it's all been to the businesses. 187 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: You have paid more, the businesses pay less. That's what 188 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: happens in the state of Indiana. And you darn well 189 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: better bet that if these mega corps that are behind 190 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: these data centers, if they want something, Braun is going 191 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: to have no problem continuing to put governmental entities people 192 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: running those entities in place that will rubber stamp you 193 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: paying more so that they can continue to do ribbon 194 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: cuttings with these bright, shiny objects, because that is what 195 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: these people who run our government believe in. 196 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 4: Well, there's some more upcoming leadership changes. 197 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 6: This at the i u r C, which is the 198 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 6: Indiana Regulatory Commission. 199 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: Yes, they are supposed they are the people. 200 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: They are the last bastion of hope between the greedy 201 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: utilities and you, the rate to payer. They are supposed 202 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: to They are the judge, jury, and executioner on whether 203 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: these utilities, which you can't shop around on they're totally monopolies, 204 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: can continue to raise your race. 205 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 4: So the chairman is set to retire. 206 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: Yes, in January, I nominate you, Casey. 207 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 6: Well, here we go again. Governor Brown gets to appoint 208 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 6: his successor. 209 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: That's Canada is. 210 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 4: Recommended by a nominating commission. 211 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,359 Speaker 3: How do we get how do we get to be nominated? 212 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: Yes? 213 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: I want to nominate Casey? How do I do that? 214 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: How do I nominate Casey to be the head of 215 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: the head. 216 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 6: Of the Are you trying to nominate me to be 217 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 6: the chairman for the i U r C or just 218 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 6: to be on the commission. 219 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: No, no, I want to nominate you. 220 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 4: Oh okay, are you looking for that information? 221 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: No, I'm just reading an email that I got from 222 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: a government person and I've got to send another public records. 223 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: They're just not gonna make it. You know, they know 224 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: case Row. We'll discuss if we get off the air. 225 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: They know who I am. When I send something to 226 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: these people. 227 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 4: You walk around, you say, do you know who I am? 228 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: They know who I am? 229 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: Though, right, They know who I am, and they could 230 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: just make it easy on themselves when I request something 231 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: very straightforward, which was like I had two questions, that'd 232 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: be very easy for them to say yes and here's 233 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: the info you've requested. But now they've made me go 234 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: through the portal and that's just gonna piss me off 235 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: because I'm an get the info anyway. So now you 236 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: just made me angry. I don't know why they do this. 237 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: Just give me the info. It'll be a little blip 238 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: on the radar and we'll all go about our merry way. 239 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 6: So it's like you asked him what time it was, 240 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 6: and instead of giving you the time, they told you 241 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 6: how to make a watch. 242 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: Well, we're going to get into this some of this Tomorrow, 243 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: Old Palski Doug Carter is going to be back because 244 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: he's very upset, fired up about this. The special prosecutor 245 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: in the the klein Helter investigation that her. I think 246 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: he would describe it as a lack of candor with 247 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: the Indiana Capitol Chronicle. And so I had to another 248 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: government entity issued a just a very straightforward couple of questions. 249 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: A little birdie had told me something was going on 250 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: related to that, and I just had asked a couple 251 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: of questions that could have been very simple responses. 252 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 4: You've got a lack of transparent Well, they sent me. 253 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: To the portal, which is fine. There is the portal, 254 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: and I can ask it through the portal. But now 255 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: you made me mad because now I'm going through extra 256 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: steps and that that is not a good way to 257 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: handle me. People should know that by now. 258 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 2: You know what? Cheers you up? 259 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: You know what? 260 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 4: What's that talking to Nicki Kellen? 261 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Yes, Nicky Kelly from the Indiana Capitol 262 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: Chronicle will be with us. We're going to try to 263 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: make some sense out of what's going on with this 264 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: Elevate Ventures, this nonprofit. 265 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: Tied in the IDC Yeah, we mentioned that yesterday. 266 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: Latest on redistrict ding Bronze helicopter rides. 267 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 6: Oh boy, all right, lots to get to on the 268 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 6: way from ninety three WIBC. 269 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: Years ninety three WIBC. 270 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 3: It's Kennelly Casey Show on Rob Casey's here. 271 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: As you know, there's so much going on right now 272 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: with Indiana politics and government, and one of the groups 273 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: that doesn't better than perhaps anybody else in finding out 274 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: what exactly is taking place is the Indiana Capitol Chronicle. 275 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: We talked to Nicki Kelly each week from the Indiana 276 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: Capitol Chronicle. She runs the show over there. One of 277 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: the best reporters in the business. She joins us now 278 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: in the WIBC hotline Nikki. 279 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: Kelly, Hello, Hey, how are you doing great? 280 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: All right, So, you guys have been all over this 281 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: this redistricting fight. It looked like it was going forward, 282 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: then it looked like it wasn't going forward, and then 283 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of US House reps came out in. 284 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 3: Favor of it. Where are we right now? 285 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: Have you guys been able to do any sort of 286 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: count with where the rank and file in the General 287 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: Assembly are unredistricting? Yeah? 288 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 7: After an initial like group of people came out against it. 289 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 7: Seems like they've all shut it down. We obviously went 290 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 7: out to the House Republican Caucus on Monday and trying 291 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 7: to chat with people, and most of the rank and 292 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 7: bio were like, sope, we're not talking. And so I 293 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 7: think a lot. I think the determining factor will probably 294 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 7: be this visit to the White House next week and 295 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 7: then maybe we'll find out whether they're going to go 296 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 7: forward with it. Honestly, as a Monday, I felt like 297 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 7: it's kind of inevitability. But we'll see. But it definitely 298 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 7: looks like it has the momentum. 299 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: Craig Haggard came on our shouting note to tell other 300 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: people and he makes this definitive statement he's against it, 301 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: and then he just totally flip flops. 302 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: Have you ever seen that before? 303 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: Look, I get people they say one thing privately and 304 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: do another, but where somebody made emphatic public statements and 305 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: then a week later that changed my mind. 306 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it happens from time to time on issues. 307 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 7: I remember people changing their votes on DST or on 308 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 7: the toll road lease, things like that. They got a 309 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 7: lot of attention, and that's why I think now people 310 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 7: are kind of shutting up because they don't if they 311 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 7: do get swayed, they don't want to be seen as 312 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 7: a flip flopper. 313 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: Are you gathering because you've you've covered Indiana politics and 314 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: government for a long time. Is this an issue the 315 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: public cares about one way or another? Like would it 316 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: motivate the people to vote against Republicans who vote for it, 317 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: or if Republicans don't vote for it, would the base 318 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: be mad enough that they won't turn out. 319 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 7: I mean, the real core Republican base is going to 320 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 7: be mad if they don't do it. You know, there 321 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 7: are people who are just absolutely convinced that, you know, 322 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 7: they need to do this to save democracy, you know 323 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 7: kind of thing, and so they would be very mad. Obviously, 324 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 7: all the Democrats are going to be mad. It's definitely 325 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 7: going to rile up their base. So they're going to be, 326 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 7: you know, going to the polls like crazy in twenty 327 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 7: twenty six if they happens to try to retain their 328 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 7: you know, representation. So yeah, I mean, it could definitely 329 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 7: backfire against Republicans. It's it's theoretical to you know, be 330 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 7: able to draw these maps, but it makes the others 331 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 7: much harder to win not I mean, obviously they would 332 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 7: still be Republican seats, but you're going to have to 333 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 7: spend more money to win them. 334 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: Nicky Kelly from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle is our guest 335 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: talking about redistricting. Do you have any idea This is 336 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: what I cannot figure out, is how they're going to 337 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: be able to draw these maps in an ever changing 338 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: state where you are seeing a lot of these donut 339 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: counties turn more blue. That if you put a bunch 340 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: of Marion County into these these bluing districts that within 341 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: six to ten years they aren't blue districts. 342 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, but you know, we'll have they can redo 343 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 7: it in five years when the business comes so and 344 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 7: then they'd have actual new information because right now they'd 345 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 7: still be drawing maps on the old information. There are some, 346 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 7: you know, surveys that the Census says every year to update, 347 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 7: but those are more estimates than in actual senses. 348 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: So is that kind of your theory is that they're 349 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: gonna this is some temporary thing where we'll survive in 350 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: advance for a couple of years and we can pull 351 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: this off, and then we'll just go back to the old, 352 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: older versions of the map. For lack of a better term, 353 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: I mean. 354 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 7: That really just depends on where people moved to the 355 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 7: in state migration, which I don't think we know yet. 356 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 7: I mean, we know overall that our population has grown slightly. 357 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 7: You know, I looked at the first district, for instance, 358 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 7: and they are within zero point seven percent, So they 359 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 7: like a couple of the counties gained and one of 360 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 7: the county's lost, and you know, they're basically status quo. 361 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: Nikki Kelly from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle is our guest. Okay, 362 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: so you guys had this very interesting article about Braun 363 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: and the helicopter and how much those flights from Indianapolis 364 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: to his home have cost down in southern Indiana. 365 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 3: It's a lot of that's a lot of money. Gas 366 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: is much cheaper for an automobile. 367 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 7: True. Yeah, I mean, we just we wanted to see 368 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 7: how often they're doing it. When it first came out, 369 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 7: they said it wouldn't be routine. You know, it's in 370 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 7: the eye of the beholder what they consider routine. The 371 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 7: only thing I kind of wish is that they had 372 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 7: more explanation of when and why he does it sometimes. 373 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 7: There was one example, I think we used as a 374 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 7: lead where he was in Indianapolis for the five hundred 375 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 7: he drove back home to Jasper. Then they helicoptered him 376 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 7: back to India the next day, you know, And we 377 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 7: do have a residence, a very nice governor's residence that's 378 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 7: paid and sitting there and staffed, and you know, so 379 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 7: I get wanting to be where you're comfortable. And I 380 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 7: know he has grandkids and children down there, So I'm 381 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 7: not saying he should never go, but you know, I 382 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 7: don't really understand when they're using it sometimes when they're 383 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 7: not well. 384 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: I think that's the big thing, right, because what was 385 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: there was eleven flights he took between middle of March 386 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: and August. First it was like almost twenty four thousand 387 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: dollars in total. You guys did a great job reporting 388 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: on this, and it's like, okay, if you're worth between 389 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: Bron's net worth last time he had to fill that 390 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: format in the Senate was somewhere between I think like 391 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: thirty five million and ninety million or something like that. 392 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: Couldn't you just pay for your own flights? Like why 393 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: do we have to pay for this? What are you 394 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: doing at your home in southern Indiana. That's vital to 395 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: the taxpayers that you need to get there that fast. 396 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 7: Well, but sometimes it's the other way around, you know, 397 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 7: that they need to get back to the Capitol. There 398 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 7: is a quirky part of the Constitution, by the way, 399 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 7: that says the governor Auditor. I think treasurer have to 400 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 7: quote reside at the seat of power in Indianapolis, which 401 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 7: is always a fascinating little look. So you know, I 402 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 7: don't know where he's voting from or residing, but I say, 403 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 7: I think it's Jeffers. 404 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: We should challenge that. I think that'd be a great 405 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: piece for you. I think you should absolutely challenge that, 406 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: and we support you here at the Kendall and Casey 407 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: Show wholeheartedly. 408 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 7: Nikki Kelly, Yeah, I don't think that would really hold up, 409 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 7: But you know, that was a very old part of 410 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 7: the constitution when getting to the capital meant riding horses 411 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 7: for you know, a whole day. 412 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: Sure, and I think we should go back to that. 413 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: I think Broun shall have to take a horse from 414 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: Indianapolis to Southern Indiana each time he goes. Oh Lord, 415 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: Nicky Kelly from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle is our guests. Hey, 416 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: before we let you go, you guys have had a 417 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: very interesting piece. Nikki Casey and I touched on this 418 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: yesterday about how much money this nonprofit Elevate Ventures, has 419 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: yet to pay back to the IEDC, money they were 420 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: given to help with startups here in the state of India. 421 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: Everything with the IDC just seems very sketchy. And this 422 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: is another thing. What can you tell us about Elevate Ventures. 423 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 7: You know, I got to be honest, I don't know 424 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 7: a whole lot about it. Obviously, they are part of 425 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 7: the audit that's going on. There are a lot of 426 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 7: people involved with Elevate that have a lot of tentacles 427 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 7: here and there, and a lot of you know, relationships 428 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 7: with each other. So you know, they owed some money, 429 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 7: but you know, it's like a bank, you don't have 430 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 7: to call in the note, right And the state decided 431 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 7: to call in the note and they paid almost all 432 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 7: of it. They paid I think twelve of sixteen million, 433 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 7: and then they were still a couple short and now 434 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 7: the state is basically staying there and breach. My basic 435 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 7: read is that because of the audit and some things 436 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 7: that the broad administration doesn't like about how that's going. 437 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 7: They're slowly trying to kind of separate, Yeah, anap lists 438 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 7: from Elevate and so this is one way, you know, 439 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 7: is to okay, let's you know, we've got this loan, 440 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 7: let's let's call it, call it back, and slowly start 441 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 7: to detangle from Elevate Ventures. 442 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole thing with me with the IDs and 443 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: you guys have done for years tried to get information 444 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: on this. It's just so hard to put all the 445 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: pieces together. And as a taxpayer, that's pretty frustrating, because 446 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: whether something's good or bad, I should be able to 447 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: know how my money is being spent and how it's 448 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: all coming together and what the you know, the in 449 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: this case, the return on investment is yeah, I. 450 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 7: Mean, obviously they run a venture capital kind of angel 451 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 7: investor program for Indiana to try to spur startups and 452 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 7: entrepreneurial startups, and so you know, the money is flowing 453 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 7: back and forth to many different people, as many different entities, 454 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 7: and some of them are involved in multiple ones at once. 455 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: Find her over at Indiana Capitol Chronicle dot com. They 456 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: do phenomenal report hoarding on all things Indiana politics and government. 457 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: Nikki Kelly, thank you, Thank you. It's Kelly Casey Show 458 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: ninety three WIBC. 459 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 2: Okay. 460 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: I submitted the form via the proper the portal, the portal. 461 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 4: Nice. Did you have to get a user name? 462 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: Oh? 463 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 3: I did? 464 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, So now you have an account. 465 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: Now they've done made me as they've done, made me 466 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: real mad that they made me go through all those 467 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: extra steps. Have you missed the couple segments ago? Our 468 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: buddy Doug Carter's gonna be with us tomorrow. 469 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 4: He'll be here at eleven. 470 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: Eleven o'clock tomorrow. He's got some things to say about 471 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: the responses from the Brown administration client Helter himself, the 472 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: special prosecutor. All this going back to a couple of 473 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: weeks ago, and we had Doug on. He's the former 474 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: state police superintendent, so most people know that. 475 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: In case you didn't, and he was. 476 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: He has expressed grave concern about how the case was 477 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: handled involving a guy by the name of Tom Kleinhelter, 478 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: who is the sheriff of du Boise County. When Carter 479 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: was the state Police superintendent, one of his top officers 480 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: had submitted an eighty page probable cause affidavit to a 481 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: special prosecutor in Southern Indiana related to alleged misuse of 482 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: commissary money by Klinelter and involved his wife going on 483 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: trips with them, et cetera. And Kleinhelter is a very 484 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: close political ally. It appears of Governor Braun, and magically. 485 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 4: When Brauns the inauguration happened. 486 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: Brod became the governor and a new state please superintendent 487 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: went in. 488 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 3: Everything went away. 489 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: And so Doug came on our show a couple of 490 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: weeks ago, did a whole hour with us talking about this. 491 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: Now there have been many, many other news outlets who 492 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: have picked the story up. 493 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, just yesterday, I believe Wish TV 494 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 4: picked it up. So yes, gaining some traction. 495 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, because there are a lot of red flags, and 496 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: the Capitol Chronicle did a big expos on it, and 497 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: there just aren't a lot of answers on why this 498 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: case went away. And then of course the office sir 499 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: in question was disciplined Jeff here in very. 500 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 4: Respectful investigative office here. 501 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was disciplined. 502 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: Who was looking into this, who submitted the eighty page 503 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: probable cause AFFI David and so dougle b back to, well, 504 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: we don't want to assume anything, but we'll let Dug 505 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: the weigh in on this. 506 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: There were some other things that had come to my 507 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 3: attention that I were. 508 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: Pretty straightforward things, and I just said, well, i'll ask 509 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,959 Speaker 1: somebody and we'll just make this easy on everybody. And 510 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: they said, oh, no, you've got to go through the portal. 511 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: I said, I'm the wrong guy to do that, which 512 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: is fine. I'll go through your portal. I'm going to 513 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: get the information if it exists anyway. And now you've 514 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: done made me take a bunch of time. When you 515 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm asking, you know why i'm asking. Just 516 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: give it to me and we'll part friends and go 517 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: our merry way. And now they've made me go through 518 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: the portal. And now now I'm invested because I've had. 519 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 3: Time that's had to be wasted. 520 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 6: Sure, you have to go through the official channels right, 521 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 6: follow the protocol. Do you think you'll get an answer 522 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 6: now that you've gone through the portal? 523 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 3: Well, I have no doubt that. I was. 524 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 6: Do you feel different since you've gone through the portal? 525 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 3: Life like it's any magical doorway? 526 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: Fine, like, I'll go through the portal, But this could 527 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: have been like a two second thing. That you could 528 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: have just responded to probably ninety percent of the stuff 529 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: that was asked. 530 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: I didn't. 531 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, I did not write the great 532 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: Gadsby in the emails that I sent to the email 533 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: that I sent to these people. 534 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 3: And so fine, I did. 535 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: The channel and made the account and submitted all the things. 536 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 3: And but now you've made me mad. 537 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 4: Okay, would McDonald's cheer you up? 538 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: Oh? What's going on? McDonald's. 539 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 6: It's getting cheaper, at least at least the ten dollars 540 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 6: combo meal. 541 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: Well, how excitedly? 542 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 6: I dropping price to eight dollars and fifty cents under 543 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 6: some new pricing. 544 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 3: Oh, now say that again. There's a lot of information. 545 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: Ten dollars combo meal right now? 546 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 3: Uh huh? What is it? 547 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 4: And it's going to be eight dollars and fifty cents? 548 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 3: What do I get? 549 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 4: What do I get? 550 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 6: Big mac McNuggets, egg McMuffin, chicken sandwich. 551 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: There's no way all that's in a combo meal for you? 552 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 6: Okay, all right, big combo Okay, So the nuggie combo meal. 553 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: So McDonald's, he'll one sauce packet. Sorry this came. Oh 554 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: you're referencing the noblesviel School System. But allegedly we got it, 555 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: We got very good. I got an update on that 556 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: from somebody up to find that later. So you missed 557 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: yesterday's show. Apparently one parent was outraged that the noblest 558 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: school system is allegedly charging extra for ketchup and sauce 559 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: ketch ranch packets, and so we're trying to get to 560 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: the bottom went on there. Somebody sent me another correspondence 561 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: on that off to pull up. Uh so this this 562 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: the McDonald's lowering the prices is out of an outrage 563 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: from their customers, saying, look, we know we're getting a 564 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: giant vat of salt and grease. 565 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 3: We know what we're getting here. 566 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: At least make a check. 567 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 3: We'd like to make it somewhat affordable. 568 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 4: Yes, that's true. 569 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 6: They're also bringing back the extra value meals. 570 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 4: Oh, extra value, extra value. Yeah. 571 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 6: Limited price increases to less notable menu items is what 572 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 6: the McDonald's corporation is urging their franchisees to do. 573 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: Here's the problem. 574 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: I can beat these prices with Arby's coupons, so it's 575 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: better food and the price is actually lower. 576 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 3: You know what's wild. You know one of the things 577 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: I learned. 578 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: And I don't know if all fast food chains do 579 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: this or franchisees do this, And maybe somebody can answer 580 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: this the local Arby's, because I've just become friends with 581 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: all the people who work at the the Rby's. Now 582 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: they know what sauces I want. They know all these things. 583 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: And the national coupons don't always match the local coupons. 584 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: Like I guess each franchise e or whatever can have 585 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: their own sort of coupons. So like the great thing 586 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: about the Brownsburg Arby's is a couple of these coupons 587 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: I use on the regular. The local coupon is actually 588 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: better than the national cuba. But that because they have 589 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: the local one in their system, I get a better price. 590 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 6: You know, you gave me one of your coupons and 591 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 6: I went to use it, and I was going to 592 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 6: stop on my way home from work, and of course 593 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 6: all of the. 594 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 4: Detours, all of Indianapolis, it was it was a chore 595 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 4: to get my Rby's, but I did appreciate it. 596 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: So McDonald's just is lowering their prices to try to 597 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: get people who back in the door, who are like, 598 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: I know what I'm getting into here. 599 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 6: Well, restaurant visits. I have declined one point seven percent overall, 600 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 6: two point seven percent for fast food so far this year. 601 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, life is unaffordable. I don't know if you're aware, Casey. 602 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 6: Something else that is happening is that forty four percent 603 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 6: of US diners order the kid's meal at a restaurant 604 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 6: for themselves, even though they're not a kid. 605 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 3: I put this on the template. I did. 606 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: I put this on the template the other day. Didn't 607 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: that you or you didn't put it on there? 608 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 6: No? 609 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. 610 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 3: Did I take it off? I put it on there 611 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 3: last night and then it. 612 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: May be on their It was the whole Foods. 613 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 3: I definitely put this in. 614 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: Mc donald's lowering their price. 615 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely put this on there because I was 616 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: blown away that that adults food is so expensive now 617 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: that adults are ordering off the kids. 618 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 6: The kids been Yeah, nearly fifty percent ordering kids meal menus. 619 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 6: Part of it is nostalgia, part of it, it's not 620 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 6: it's expensive seeking doals comforts? Did you see though that 621 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 6: McDonald's they sell three point two million happy meals a 622 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 6: day and now they might introduce is McDonald McDonald Land Meal, 623 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 6: which is an adult friendly version of the Happy Oh. 624 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So when I was a kid, it used to 625 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: be a big deal with McDonald's because the toy, the 626 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: Happy Meal was always some sort of big production thing. 627 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: It was tied into some movie or whatever. And you 628 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: would keep going in trying to get like all the 629 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: toys from the movie or whatever. And you'd be just 630 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: and then you would ask, you would bug some like 631 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: you don't appreciate it when you're five, But now as 632 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: an adult, I'm like, this is probably ruining this guy's existence. 633 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: When you were like, I already have the he Man figure. 634 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: Can you throw the skeletor figure in there for me? 635 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 6: This guy's like, get out of me, Get out of here, 636 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 6: you bother me. 637 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 4: Okay. 638 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 6: So another thing that's happening in restaurant news Cracker Barrel. 639 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 3: That's changing the logo, right, Yeah, they. 640 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 4: Changed their logo. 641 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 2: They're changing a lot of their Why. 642 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 3: Would you change anything? Cracker Barrel? Why would you do that? 643 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: Cracker Barrel is perfect just the way it is. 644 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 4: They remove the old timer character. 645 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, the new logo is ugly. It's just like these 646 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: signs we put on the roads here in Indiana. The 647 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: sign was fine, Why are you messing with it. The 648 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: old guy is comforting. He's sitting on the porch right. 649 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: The whole premise of the Cracker Barrel is there's a 650 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: big porch like the old guy, and the country store 651 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: like the old guy. Now it doesn't make any sense. 652 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: Why would they do that. 653 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 4: Well, they're trying to modernize. 654 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: All I don't. 655 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 3: I don't want to modernized. I want Crocker Beel to 656 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 3: be Cracker Barrel. 657 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 6: Interiors now feature lighter walls, updated painting, fewer antiques. 658 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 4: Did you ever go into a Cracker barrel? I think 659 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 4: you could put like a. 660 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 6: Picture of your family on the wall like I used 661 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 6: to Pavely worked. There would never notice. I used to 662 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 6: add it in. 663 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: Crackerbellly should be a big deal as a kid, because 664 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: when you're small, everything is bigger, right. And now as 665 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: an adult, I look at that gift shop and it's like, oh, 666 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: well whatever. But as a kid, you'd go at night. 667 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: It was like cool to walk around the gift shop 668 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: and if my parents keep telling me, no, you can't 669 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: buy that, No, you can't have that, no, And I 670 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: was like, man, it'd be cool to live in the 671 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: Cracker Barrel gift shop because they have all this fun stuff. 672 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 6: That's quite the marketing plan though, because if you're waiting 673 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 6: in line to go into the restaurant, you can just 674 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 6: mill about and do some shopping. Have you ever done 675 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 6: like the cracker barrel Thanksgiving dinner? 676 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 4: I did that one year. 677 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 3: I know somebody who has done that. 678 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 4: I did that. 679 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never done that by yourself. 680 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: Uh no, it was for the family. 681 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: Oh you actually get you didn't go into the cracker barrow. 682 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: You got like a cracker barrel thing to go. 683 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 4: Well, it was during COVID. 684 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 6: Oh, so we just rolled up to the parking spot 685 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 6: having ordered it. 686 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, brought it, brought it out to you. Yeah, all right, 687 00:32:59,440 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 3: hammer's nack. 688 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 4: It's Kennelen Casey on ninety three wibc. 689 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 2: Hey. 690 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 3: I hate to point is that to you? You got 691 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 3: a giant stain near your crotch. 692 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 5: It's never happened to me before. 693 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 3: Jason Amber's here. Hello. 694 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 8: So I walked in the room and the first thing 695 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 8: I told Casey was look at my crotch. 696 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: Yes, you did. 697 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 8: And I'm not sure if this is the first time 698 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 8: I've asked you to do that, but it's most certainly 699 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 8: the recent because I was in the back and I 700 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 8: got here early today because my son has my car, 701 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 8: so I had to get dropped off here so he 702 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 8: can go to work and all that stuff. 703 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 5: So I'm here early. I'm eating my breakfast. 704 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, I've got carrots and like a little bit of ranch, 705 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 8: and I get a little cup right packet. 706 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 5: So I'm eating the carrot. 707 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 8: It slips out of my hand, so I overreact to 708 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 8: catch falling carrot, and then the little cup I have 709 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 8: of the ranch spills. 710 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 5: Right on my car. 711 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 3: Oh that's horrible. 712 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, of all things to spill on your mid section here, 713 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 8: ranch dressing. 714 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, so the joke's kind of right themselves. Sure, So 715 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 5: I go to the bathroom. 716 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 8: Everybody's looking laughing, Oh what happened to you? 717 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 5: What have you been watching online? 718 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 8: And so I have to go full Billy Madison and 719 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 8: just put water on my crotch to wash it off. 720 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 8: So if you leave ranch on there, one, it'll stay, 721 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 8: two it'll stink. Sure, And you know not that you 722 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 8: know our afternoon show doesn't have stinky people on it 723 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 8: because when night shows up, the room's atrocious. 724 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 5: But I look like Billy Maxison. 725 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 3: Now booze and failure, right, But I look like. 726 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 8: Billy Madison the same where he puts the water on 727 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 8: his crotch billy pet his beads. 728 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 729 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 4: A couple questions. Yes, you were eating carrots for breakfast. 730 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I had it for my lunch. I packed my 731 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,959 Speaker 3: lunch and because I had to get. 732 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 5: Here early though, I was like, you know what, I'll 733 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 5: just eat. 734 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: This right and go for it. 735 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 4: That is very healthy of you. 736 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: Well, if I'm trying, did you when you were cleaning. 737 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 6: Off the area, did you add a little bit more 738 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 6: water than necessary? 739 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 8: No, but I probably rubbed it more than most people 740 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 8: would stop. But no, I just took water in my 741 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 8: hand right and just kind of cummed it through it on, 742 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 8: you know, in the mid section here, wiped it down 743 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 8: with the paper towels we have in there. 744 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: I love that you're giving a play by play of 745 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: how you clean your area, and you're I mean, you're 746 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: getting great joy out of it too. I can see 747 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: the just internal smile and you're so smiling about it, 748 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: not externally, but I know internally you are. I've known 749 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: you for twenty years. I know internally you're just You're 750 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: loving every second. 751 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 8: I've got nothing, you know, to shy away from. When 752 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 8: you've got a basket like mine. You tell the people 753 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 8: what happens. 754 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 6: Now. 755 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 5: If I were you, I wouldn't talk about it at all. 756 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 6: Wrong. 757 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 8: If I were you, i'd probably avoid all those conversations, 758 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 8: but I left the truth free. 759 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 2: Baby. Are you here? We are? 760 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 3: Are you going to the wrestling? Are you gonna go 761 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 3: the wrestling? 762 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: Wrestling that's coming in Indianapolis September twentieth, there's a big 763 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: wrestling event. Now they've announced WWE's coming to Gainbridge. 764 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 5: And it's like ESPN's partners, Yes, right. 765 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 3: Yes, And so I know that you're a big fan 766 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 3: of the modern wrestling. Are you going to go? 767 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 8: Probably not to this, one reason being the next day 768 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 8: we're getting up early and it's the annual crap talking 769 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 8: Cubs and Reds road trip. 770 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 5: So you do that. 771 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: So you you have two sons. One is a Cubs fan, Chris, 772 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: which you are. One is a Reds fan, which Jacob, 773 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,720 Speaker 1: which your old man is right, and then you guys 774 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: go to a Cubs Reds game every year. 775 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 8: Right, it's a little civil war, a lot of trash talking. 776 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 8: I'm surprised we don't get thrown out of the restaurant. 777 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, where's the game down in Natty? 778 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 3: Cincinnati. 779 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 8: I mean, it's so much cheaper to go down to 780 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 8: Cincinnati and listen, I'm a Cubs fan, but I'm old 781 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 8: enough to remember when you got bleacher tickets because they 782 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 8: were cheap. Now they've become like the party zone and 783 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 8: all the frat bros want to go there. It's one 784 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 8: hundred bucks to sit in the bleachers at Wrigley. Now, yeah, 785 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 8: people ruin everything. I can remember as. 786 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: High school college bleacher you get a twenty five dollars bleacher. 787 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 8: Ticket, right, Lee Ilia on that famous rant. You know, 788 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 8: the rest of the world's working, the other half come 789 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 8: out here. 790 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so over the top. 791 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 8: And then the Ricketts family, the owners of the Cubs, 792 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 8: acting like they're the little stres of the poor. 793 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 5: We're just trying to break even. Oh bull crap, spend 794 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 5: our money. 795 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 3: Didn't they like buy all the property around. 796 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 8: Yes, the network, they bought everything around Wrigley. They're number 797 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 8: three in total revenue in Major League Baseball. We're just 798 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 8: trying to break even. That's why we don't sign big 799 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 8: free agents. 800 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: Oh bull Croup is still called Riverfront Stadium. 801 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 5: No Riverfront got torn down long time ago. 802 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 3: The eighties would like their ballpark back. Casey American Ballpark 803 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 3: a bit. 804 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 4: Hey when when I when I lived near the area. 805 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 1: It was Riverfront Podcast. We've got a new podcast coming 806 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: out today. Football's back. Yes, I love it. 807 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 8: This weekend meaningful college football games, games that matter, two 808 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 8: ranked teams playing on Saturday. 809 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,479 Speaker 5: Kicking things off over in Ireland. So right around one. 810 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 8: O'clock today on each of our respective social media platforms, 811 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 8: and wherever you get your podcast, because that's. 812 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 5: The line you have to say, right, wherever you. 813 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 8: Get your podcasts. The Degenerate next Door College Football's back, 814 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 8: and I love it. 815 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 3: I absolutely love it, even though I will die. 816 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 8: On the hill saying there's no such thing as a 817 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 8: week zero, but week zero has games. We'll have a 818 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 8: degenerate special. You're gonna get nuts. Look for that around 819 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 8: one o'clock this afternoon. 820 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 3: What are we doing this afternoon? 821 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 8: Micah Beckwith scheduled to join us. We'll see what happened 822 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 8: last night. We'll check in with this investigation. Is there 823 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 8: a grand jury like that? 824 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 5: Moron? 825 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 8: Husband said, I don't know. We're gonna ask him about it. 826 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 8: You're going to come by and I'm gonna go take care. 827 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 4: At the same time, I'm fine with this. 828 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good show. Thank you Hammer. 829 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 6: It is Kendall and Casey on ninety three WYBC.