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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. I was not a guy familiar with

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Speaker 1: Joe Kent.

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Speaker 2: At all, which is okay, I don't have to be

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Speaker 2: familiar with everybody that I remembered that he was a

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Speaker 2: nominee to to be in charge of CANA terrorism. Sure

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Speaker 3: Thinking of his name now.

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Speaker 2: Discussions of Tulsea Gabbard as the Director of National Intelligence.

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Speaker 3: Yes, whether Tulsa.

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Speaker 2: Gabbard was going to be able to provide full, full reporting,

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Speaker 2: full details, full analysis in Intel.

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Speaker 3: Was a real question.

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Speaker 2: About whether or not she could be trusted in this

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Speaker 2: capacity based on her past. Tony Kats Tony Kats today,

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Speaker 2: Good to be here, good to be with You find

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Speaker 2: everything at Tony Katz dot com phone number eight three

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Speaker 2: we have seen From Tulsa gabbard is that she's kind

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Speaker 3: Pushed to the.

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Speaker 2: Side is this because she isn't somebody who sees the

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Speaker 2: that any kind of action is regime change based on

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Speaker 2: of the intel needed to make a comprehensive. Decision as

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Speaker 2: a host of back and forth on the, subject that's

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Speaker 2: kind of where we left. It we noted that that

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Speaker 2: in the first bombing raid that took place Of, Isfahan

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Speaker 2: part of. That how much was she a part of

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Speaker 2: what took place in this latest? Hit how much was

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Speaker 2: but we know now That Joe, kent who led The

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Speaker 2: was left out of those conversations. Completely we know that

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Speaker 2: he was not. Consulted we know that he didn't get

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Speaker 2: a set and he puts out a statement yesterday QUOTE

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Speaker 2: Iron iran po's no imminent threat to our, nation and

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Speaker 2: it is clear that we started this war due to

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Speaker 2: pressure From israel and its Powerful american. Lobby this is

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Speaker 2: the same guy, who in repeated statements on social.

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Speaker 3: Media over the years and.

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Speaker 2: In podcasts said that The iranians were Threat he said it, repeatedly, repeatedly.

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Speaker 3: And now this is absolutely. Untenable how does someone make this?

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Speaker 2: Switch, well you first have to accept the fact That

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Speaker 2: Joe kent's, Wife Heather, kaiser writes for an outlet called Grey,

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Speaker 2: zone and Grey zone is a very left leaning publication

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Speaker 2: critical of THE, us critical Of.

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Speaker 3: Israel now you also have.

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Speaker 2: To know because some people, say, wait Didn't Joe kent's

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Speaker 2: wife wasn't she killed By? Isis, yes his first. Wife

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Speaker 2: it's a really awful. Story Joe kent's got a. History

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Speaker 2: And Joe kent is not a guy WHO i would

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Speaker 2: THINGS i could see how he would have worked him

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Speaker 3: Position that's WHERE i would have left.

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Speaker 2: It not having an expertise and not having consulted experts

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Speaker 2: Can here's what he. WROTE i cannot in good conscience

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Speaker 2: this war due to pressure From israel and its Powerful american. Lobby,

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Speaker 4: Around president spoke on this a little bit yesterday in

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Speaker 4: Feels it's deeply disappointing that after The president gave him

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Speaker 4: nobody tells him what to. Do he made.

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Speaker 2: Which is the correct, answer but it doesn't satisfy the woke,

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Speaker 2: Guilty israel's the. Problem Israel Israel, israel Dear. Lord it's

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Speaker 2: Standard jew scapegoating can now be applied To, Israel and

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Speaker 2: A terrorist organization, did the, terrorists of course funded by

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Speaker 2: The iranian. Regime why pay attention to twelve hundred murdered

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Speaker 2: israelis raped, women children set on, fire people taking. Hostage, no,

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Speaker 2: joe is that you are A tucker. Puppet now what

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Speaker 3: HAVEN'T i haven't gotten a check.

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Speaker 2: Because i've read this statement a few.

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Speaker 2: Okay november nineteen seventy, NINE Us embassy Seizure, Tehran iranian

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Speaker 2: of course they're an imminent. Threat Well Tony israel was,

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Speaker 2: saying they're always two weeks away from a nuclear, weapon

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Speaker 3: Late i'm not interested in children being in. Charge note

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Speaker 2: History his answer is, imminent.

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Speaker 2: Leadership he then says it's about pressure From israel's Powerful american. Lobby,

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Speaker 2: That but it was that line that made you, SAY

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Speaker 2: out That Joe kent Great. American he is booked On

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Speaker 2: Candace owens. Podcast he is booked On Tucker carlson's.

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Speaker 2: So, Yeah i'm gonna stand on, conviction but maybe there's

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Speaker 2: i believe this is the moment that the woke right

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Speaker 2: Joe kent wasn't involved in. Planning Joe kent was pushed

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Speaker 2: Seriously Joe kent decided to wait eighteen days before standing on.

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Speaker 3: Principle did he think things will be over in sixteen? Days?

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Speaker 2: OH i totally, Disagree but as long as it's over,

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Speaker 2: it take him eighteen days to figure? Out? Uh the

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Speaker 2: statement was that when everybody was available to do the,

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Speaker 2: podcast was there something else going on in a?

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Speaker 3: Play DO i think you believe? THIS i have no

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Speaker 3: idea what you believe or what you, Don't but what

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Speaker 3: does it look? Like what it looks?

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Speaker 2: Like is you, Quit Joe kent in a way that

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Speaker 2: would bring you the most woke right people to your.

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Speaker 2: Side you quit in a way to make yourself, popular

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Speaker 2: not in a way that you have a real objection

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Speaker 2: to what's.

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Speaker 3: Happening you damaged your own, credibility just like A tucker.

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Speaker 3: Puppet that's what it looks. Like that's what we're calling.

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Speaker 2: It and My, god don't ever let these people near

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Speaker 2: power for a. Second you can't be safe with these people.

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Speaker 2: Around I'm Tony kats