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Speaker 1: The France Per Second Podcast. Welcome to the Frans per

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Speaker 1: second Podcast. Anniversary of Usual Suspects. Uh, today I have

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Speaker 1: with me Kennethy, Inch, Mike and Ron. It's good. What

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Speaker 1: what anniversary year are we on for this? That's a

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Speaker 1: really good question.

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Speaker 2: Thy god, dang, nineteen y five. I think it's.

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Speaker 1: Holy moldy, man, that's crazy. I saw Riding Dirty came

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Speaker 1: out thirty years ago. I was like, oh no, really, yes,

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Speaker 1: that was yeah, twenty seven years. I haven't made him

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Speaker 1: to bring have a conversation about all that on his mice.

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Speaker 1: Long shit, I got it in my notes.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: But after well, today we're gonna have a conversation about

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Speaker 1: the usual Suspects.

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Speaker 2: Mike, was this your first time seeing this?

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Speaker 1: And I thought you said that because it was something

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Speaker 1: we was talking about you with him? What I thought

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Speaker 1: we were talking about something and we was like, don't

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Speaker 1: ruin the ending. I thought we avoided. You was talking

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Speaker 1: about the ending. I might have said that, but not

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Speaker 1: for myself, just for other people.

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Speaker 2: Got you. But no, I've definitely seen this movie. Okay,

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Speaker 2: how was it revisited? It was fine.

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Speaker 3: This is one of those movies that I don't have

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Speaker 3: a desire to rewatch because once.

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Speaker 2: You know the twist, it's like, I don't care about

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Speaker 2: the rest of this.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I do think it's an incredible film, but it's

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Speaker 3: only an incredible film the first time you watch it, yes,

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Speaker 3: or maybe the second time, because then you can go back,

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Speaker 3: like you can look yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: But third time I was like, all right, cool, Rob,

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Speaker 1: I will say you same man. It's definitely one of

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Speaker 1: them films that shoots itself in the foot, like because

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Speaker 1: once you've seen it, you can't unsee it, you know,

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Speaker 1: and you just keep thinking about, oh man, this motherfucker

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Speaker 1: playing them the whole time, and it's like damn, it

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Speaker 1: kind of ruins the.

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Speaker 2: Movie for you.

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Speaker 1: And like even after all these years and I haven't

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Speaker 1: been I haven't went back and watched it, I still

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Speaker 1: it's still was like just I couldn't get it out

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Speaker 1: of my head. I keep I kept on the end,

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Speaker 1: like and that and that the movie is that that's.

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Speaker 2: The allure of the movie, Like it's the end.

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Speaker 1: So it was hard to kind of rewatch this and

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Speaker 1: enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I could not.

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Speaker 1: And I just could not get into it because I

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Speaker 1: already knew what what was gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Did you have a similar experience, Well, we all look alike,

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Speaker 2: Oh it was him, it was.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's what it was. That's what it was.

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Speaker 2: A quiet say nothing. He's been around his friend too long,

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Speaker 2: That's what it is. Christ So I found this.

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Speaker 1: Really interesting is that in the tracker that I used

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Speaker 1: to watch, the Trap stuff I watched there was a

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Speaker 1: play for this in twenty twenty one, but I did

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Speaker 2: I still still was like watching it for the first time. So, but.

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Speaker 1: I do agree with what they're saying because when I'm

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Speaker 1: when I'm watching it, I'm like, this is the movie

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Speaker 1: everybody like like, like what just white people want to

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Speaker 1: steal some shit and and all this other shit Like

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: And I knew there was a twist, so you know,

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Speaker 1: you're kind of watching it, but after a while you'll

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think I see what's going on.

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Speaker 1: You know, So I really wish I didn't kind of

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Speaker 1: because y'all are y'all already kind of said that there

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, how would you still know that though? Right?

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Speaker 1: Because he's did you guess there's a couple of things

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Speaker 1: that that allowed me to do some clues. One there's

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Speaker 1: a rapper that goes by the name Verbal Kent, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, why would you pick the name Verbal Kent

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Speaker 2: You know, why would he pick that name?

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Speaker 1: And then you guys said that there's a twist in

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Speaker 1: the movie that when we did it, so I've heard

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Speaker 1: the name for you're too smart. That's why I'll be

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Speaker 1: like watch trailers and ship because I feel like, if

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Speaker 1: have had the same experience watching the first time, like y'all,

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Speaker 1: you know, I seriously I would have would have done that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you were kind of indirectly spoiled. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because you know, yeah, you know it's a twist. And

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Speaker 3: Like, even if I watched that movie and someone said, oh,

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Speaker 3: but there's a twist at the end, I don't think

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Speaker 3: I would have ever guessed that it's verbal can't. I

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Speaker 3: is what they tried to lean too and they switched again.

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Speaker 3: But I would have believed that it.

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Speaker 2: Was the cop.

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Speaker 3: I never I never would have thought that he wasn't

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Speaker 3: actually disabled. The first time I watched me that fucked me?

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Speaker 3: Is he walking directly?

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Speaker 1: I remember the first I'm watching it, and then the

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Speaker 1: I agree with you too. Once you watch it once

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Speaker 1: or twice, it's like I don't really have to. It's

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Speaker 1: like the sixth sense. The only movie that has a

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Speaker 1: major twist that I could watch like that is Gone Girl,

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Speaker 1: Gone Girl, Like it works every time, Like I didn't

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Speaker 2: It's just that good of a movie. I'm just playing,

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Speaker 2: So let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: The movie opens up being narrated by verbok Uh, do

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Speaker 1: you guys think that we gained that trust for him

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Speaker 1: as a storyteller? That's why I was so surprising, as like,

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Speaker 1: as a narrator, since he was telling the story, did

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Speaker 2: What I kept thinking about is Mike.

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Speaker 1: How Mike said, you can't believe the narrator because it's

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Speaker 2: So I was like, oh shit, I was gonna ask

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Speaker 2: you that's where you got this from. No, there's plenty

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Speaker 3: The unreliable narrator thing that was when we were talking

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Speaker 3: about No Country frold men.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 2: it was. But I thought, that's why you said that

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Speaker 2: because of this movie. Because of this movie.

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Speaker 3: No, I think, of course, now that I'm on the spot,

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Speaker 3: I can't think of another one. But there are a

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Speaker 3: lot of films that are like that, where you have

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Speaker 3: I can't like Memento.

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Speaker 2: I hadn't seen Momento in a minute, and I want

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Speaker 2: to go back and watch. Yeah, I just rewatched.

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Speaker 1: That's when they do it on the House of Dragon,

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Speaker 1: Like their perspective is being told. It's not being told

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Speaker 1: from the tiger Arians. It's being told from like the

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Speaker 1: So if you think you if you think of House

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Speaker 1: of Dragon's, it's another unreliable narrator store. So first scene

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Speaker 1: Momento popped up right after just watching this movie. Why

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Speaker 2: It's so good, man, it still works. That's why I said,

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Speaker 1: So it opens up on the ship and in the

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Speaker 1: as a carnage. What you guys think about that opening scene, ken, No,

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Speaker 1: I thought, in terms of like setting up this like

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Speaker 1: it was really good. Like you established that something happened,

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Speaker 1: So I thought it was a good opening scene because

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Speaker 1: you're just wondering, like, how do we get to where.

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Speaker 2: We opened, you know anything jump out about to open.

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Speaker 3: To you the opening Yeah, No, I thought that was

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Speaker 3: I think this movie really does just hinge.

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Speaker 1: On the fact that there's a twist. Yeah, the rest

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Speaker 1: decent movie with a great ending.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, a perfect way. Yeah you know, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Nothing, just that you noticed that, you know, they weren't

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Speaker 1: what happened. Any clues anything that I know we kind

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Speaker 1: Looking back at it the second time, they could have

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Speaker 3: after watching the first time, I was like, wait, what

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Speaker 3: it the second time, I just walked away being like,

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Speaker 3: every single thing in this movie is a lie.

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Speaker 2: So every I don't know if there was interrogated all way.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't think he was telling the truth

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Speaker 3: And that's partly why I don't really give a fuck

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Speaker 3: everything's a lie, then what do I care to watch

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Speaker 2: And I also don't even know if he's really kiss

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Speaker 2: that's interesting. I don't know. That is a really interesting point. Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm with Mike though.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's what made it so hard to watch, because

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Speaker 1: they like said they revealed that at the end, like

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Speaker 1: how he was just using shit he was seeing on

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Speaker 1: the walls, seeing on fucking cups, Like like, wait, none

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Speaker 1: of this shit is like real, like the Red the

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Speaker 1: Red Hood or some shit like that wasn't even a

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Speaker 1: real person. So when you're showing the flashbacks, it's like,

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Speaker 1: did these situations actually happen or he just made.

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Speaker 2: All of this ship up?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: That's interesting? Can you think the same?

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Speaker 1: I think watching it knowing that he made it up

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Speaker 1: could be actually a dope way. I don't disagree with

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Speaker 1: what they're saying, you know, but you know, knowing what

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Speaker 1: at this point he lying about this whole shit and

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Speaker 1: he's just making this up in his head. It's kind

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Speaker 2: Them were they were all least line up. They were

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Speaker 1: But again, we don't know if this story is true

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Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah they were.

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Speaker 2: remember me dropped and then we saw something else in

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Speaker 2: the coffee cup that he made up. Okay, So so

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Speaker 2: Remember that part?

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Speaker 1: According to verbal Camp, and that's how they all ended

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Speaker 2: What's his name is that, right, Kyobashi? Kobashi? Uh. He

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so, and and the lawyer just made this guy

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Speaker 2: Right, that's when he was rounding them up and passing

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Speaker 2: this was the boat what you're talking about when he

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Speaker 1: Now remember, okay, so remember there was another heightst that

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Speaker 2: Shooting everybody because that was what your heights.

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Speaker 1: No, there were two heights. Then there were two things.

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Speaker 3: That's why I thought also that this was all bullshit

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, he's lying, this didn't happen, like

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Speaker 1: Chaos ensued as far as them going through the whole thing,

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Speaker 2: And you hear him telling the story and yeah, what

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Speaker 3: It was more so because they The only one that

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Speaker 2: I guess he said, like we was looking over the money.

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Speaker 2: watching it.

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00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is one of the things with this movie

439
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 1: because like, there's nothing really captivating about again.

440
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 2: The he said what.

441
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 1: It would have been worse than this, absolutely, so let's

442
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 1: let's let's let's let's take.

443
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 2: It from this perspective.

444
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 1: Then this movie is is looked at us like, I

445
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 1: don't want to say one of the ones, but that's

446
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 1: one of the almost like a classic, right it is

447
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: still even though we have as a class, even though

448
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: we have a hard time talking about it. I think

449
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 1: it doesn't take away from from what the impact the

450
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: impact it has. Yeah, yeah, it's just that it's it's

451
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 1: a hard rewatch.

452
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 2: That's that's all it is.

453
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 1: And to have a conversation about, because it's not much

454
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: to like other than like you speaking to its classic

455
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 1: place in history, like the story just isn't great.

456
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 2: It's just oh wow, that happened. People love this movie.

457
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 2: This is this is a movie that.

458
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: Since six million dollar budget, it comes up a lot

459
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: in conversations, like you know, over.

460
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 2: Over the over the years, you know, and it was

461
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 2: almost like if if you're like me, like if you

462
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 2: ain't seen this movie, then you've just been missing out.

463
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 2: Y'all think that's the case. Yeah, I think this is

464
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: a mussy.

465
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: It is people that enjoy movies in films well, and

466
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: I think Kevin's basically one best supporting actor when Oscar

467
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: so I do think it stands in that place. But again,

468
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: you put it in the category with like a sixth

469
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: sense and movies where it's like, well I know what's

470
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: gonna happen and everything else and it ain't great.

471
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 2: See even like No Country for Old.

472
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 3: Men, you know the ending, but go back again and

473
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 3: just watch how it breaks down over and over this.

474
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: Outside of there being a twist, it's really not that

475
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 3: interesting of a movie. The most interesting thing I found

476
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 3: was the fact that one Carlo looked more like he

477
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 3: was a black man.

478
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: Back when bro that ship, I was like, who was it?

479
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 2: I was like, who was that?

480
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: Like?

481
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 2: He looks so young, he did look and black. Yeah,

482
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: black is.

483
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 3: Now it looks black in something else. But back then

484
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 3: you could tell me that motherfucker was just regular as

485
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: black born in Chicago.

486
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 2: I'm not the same thing. When he was in the

487
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: right thing and uh, school days, right, I thought he

488
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: was school days. Let me ask you all, this is

489
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: this one of the greatest movies ever made. It's on

490
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 2: the list, on the list it should be.

491
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: I feel like that's that's I feel like people put

492
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: it in that Buck carries it.

493
00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 2: That's like that. It's that's not a knot, though, is it? Yeah?

494
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: If you can't, I feel like, if you can't consistently

495
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: rewatch the movie and it's not great like I could,

496
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, what's a great movie that you

497
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: can't rewatch again?

498
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 2: I can't think of any like any I feel like

499
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 2: any great movie watch I'm the I'm the worst person

500
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: to ask, because I don't really like watching movies like that.

501
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: I love to rewatch movies, but I can't think of

502
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 2: a single one where I was like, God, that was amazing.

503
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: I'm never watching it again, you know what I'm saying. Like,

504
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: I can think of a good movie, like Fruvel Station

505
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: was a good movie, but I've never watched it. In fact,

506
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: I'll never and that's just because of how it makes

507
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: you feel, in the sense of, yeah, it's way too

508
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: heavy to like watch consistently.

509
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 2: Ship I can watch the dialogue is just too good

510
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 2: for me. Not I've wanted to watch it again, but.

511
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: I just the way it made me, the way it

512
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: made me feel like, I want to rewatch it too,

513
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: but I just I just hated how.

514
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 2: It made me feel. It's very heavy. It's very heavy.

515
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: I watched it. Yeah, yeah, put it on your list.

516
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: It's really good.

517
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: I think, like all the great movies, like I think,

518
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: I feel like Sean shank Redemption is a great movie.

519
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 2: I watched it anytime. You wouldn't watch it again? Really, yeah,

520
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,239
Speaker 2: I've seen it. I've seen it enough. I don't ever

521
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: need to see that movie again. But it is good.

522
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 3: It's different than this because that movie again, it has

523
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 3: such great dialogue and there's other things outside of the

524
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 3: twel Okay, I think I said the relationship between him

525
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 3: and Morgan Freeman, and there's just all of these, like

526
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: all this commentary on jail, on morality, So that's different.

527
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: This I don't get all. I think I see what

528
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: you guys. So so the kind of what you said earlier,

529
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 2: there's there's some some sort of depth missing. It's very

530
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: parts of the movie.

531
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: It's because like once once it's revealed that it's all

532
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: made up, because I'm reading right here because I wanted

533
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: to read it, like uh, the detective basically realizes that

534
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: verbal fabricated his entire STU improvise it on the spot

535
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: by piecing together details from the random items in his

536
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: office clutter his cluttered office. So it's like on the

537
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: spot he came up with this whole story based off

538
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: these different because even the man he said it was

539
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: like a big black woman on the He even made

540
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: that ship up.

541
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 3: Like that.

542
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 2: But I'm just using it as like it's in the movie.

543
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: It's in the movie.

544
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's like he made all that ship up,

545
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: and it's like I want you know that it's hard

546
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: to rewatch.

547
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 3: It because the story he made up wasn't that cool. Really,

548
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: wasn't that cool of a story that he made up.

549
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 3: It's just wild that he made it up.

550
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: On the spot. On the spot. Yeah, and the crazy

551
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: part is detective like, I'm smarter than you.

552
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm glad you brought that up, because that was

553
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 3: one of the only interesting aspects of the film to me,

554
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 3: was the reason we look at him as like, oh,

555
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 3: we can't do it is because he's handicapped, and because

556
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: they think he's but because he's handicapped. So I think

557
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: that was an actual interesting commentary on underestimating people impressions

558
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: or disabilities or whatever.

559
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: So that was kind of cool.

560
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: But outside of that, it's just like, all right, this

561
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: is just a movie out brow.

562
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: When he ran outside, he was good.

563
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved it. Was there anything that stood out

564
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: to y'all like he should have caught that from the perspective?

565
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 3: No, I mean they they they did catch multiple times

566
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: that he was getting his story fucked up.

567
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: But I think that that's audio point. You just made

568
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: that credit in him because he was stupid, That's why.

569
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 3: But now when you watch it back a second time,

570
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: you're like, oh no, he's fucking the story up because

571
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: he's making it up on the spot.

572
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 2: And then he made the detective make it seem like

573
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: he figured it out and ship and he was my

574
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: friend and yeah it was good man. I was like,

575
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: damn fucking cops that put he's seal. He's how do

576
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: you shoot the devil in the back with the hand

577
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: like this? And he to fix I watched the video

578
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 2: he did that. I wasn't making fun of hed and

579
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: then he had to like fix it or some ship,

580
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: haven't YEH been stuck like that for so long. The

581
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: greatest trick is devil devils there right there. Talk to

582
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: him and see part of me.

583
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: That's why part of me thinks that he's still lying

584
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: and that he's not actually kinder.

585
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: So what's his face?

586
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: The other guy, the guy that was supposed to be

587
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 3: like the guy I kind of think that he might

588
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: actually be kind of so say because it's like, wait

589
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: a minute, like Kevin space doesn't seemed that old, but

590
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: this story seems to be old right over.

591
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, of him killing his own family because he will.

592
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: I would get that more from that other dude than

593
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: Kevin Spacey's part. But I mean, that's not a big deal.

594
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: I mean, if he is supposed to be him, and it's.

595
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: Fine, and that goes to the unreliable narrative and what

596
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: we've seen him do in the interrogation room. It may

597
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: be a story the dude told.

598
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 3: Him and he just relayed like yeah, or he may

599
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 3: have yeah, he may have just been like, this is

600
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: what you have to do if you get caught, because

601
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: you're not going to give me up because.

602
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: I'll kill you and all of the people.

603
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: Because they showed him lighting the lighter, gave him that,

604
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: but why would they show that he still had that

605
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: lighter and he was the one that showed like killed

606
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: him in the beginning. The reason I think I started

607
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: thinking this is because when you watch it, that doesn't

608
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: look like him at the beginning.

609
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: You do.

610
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: So even if he's telling the story, we're supposed to

611
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 3: be viewing this, I guess from his storyline perspective or.

612
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: Whatever, but he's not telling it at that point. That

613
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: was a real look into what happened earlier on and

614
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like him.

615
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: What do you mean exactly?

616
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 3: So if you watch it again, the guy that's Kaiser

617
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 3: so said that is shooting buddy's name Keaton, and you

618
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: look at Kais are so say, it looks nothing like

619
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: Kevin Spacey.

620
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: It looks like it could be.

621
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: It's like a taller guy with a much thinner I

622
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: thought it was the lawyer guy that's that's yeah, yeah,

623
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: I know, I know that's what I thought it was.

624
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: I still think it might have been him. Is that

625
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm telling you now, Kaiser, he was terrified that guy

626
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: that showed up. It was like relaying. I think.

627
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: Question, is there a famous line from this movie? It's

628
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: the Double One. I think that's not where it came from,

629
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: is it.

630
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: I always thought it was in the Bible, but I

631
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: don't think it is. I thought it was in the

632
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: Bible too, or maybe it is in the Bible. In

633
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: the Bible, Damn, that'd be crazy if it came from

634
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: this movie. Brought that? Yeah, okay, all right, well you

635
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: got anything else? But it has it sounds like it's

636
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: from the Bible. Though it does sound like it's from

637
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: the Bible. Let's see. Nope, it's from this movie. You

638
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: know that f who originally said it's in the Usual Suspects.

639
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: I guess it was. Damn.

640
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: It's a famous quote often attributed to the French poet

641
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: Charles I'm wrong, Charles boudellor b a U. D.

642
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: Boudelaire. Yeah, it sounded like he was quoting it from

643
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: somebody else too. It has the sentiment for dates Baudelaire.

644
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: So he was so yeah, wow, but I don't think

645
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: I don't take it.

646
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: He was around when that lady was up in the

647
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: uh what's the name Bowser on the bicla when she

648
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: was helping Free in the Civil Wars Bike eighteen sixty four. Bro, anyway,

649
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: now I don't have anything else. I don't have anything

650
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: else watching it now, you know I'm with you, guys.

651
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I do think you know. The ending

652
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: is crazy. I get the sentiment about it, but yeah,

653
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: when I was watching, I was like, bro, what is

654
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: the fucking hype for this movie? And it really just

655
00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: is then, but.

656
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: I can only imagine when it was like watching this

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety five and that shit happened.

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Speaker 2: He was like, what, right from a movie going experience

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Speaker 2: in ninety five? Old ship? I like, I remember like

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Speaker 2: buying a DVD it is a must have, and telling

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Speaker 2: people about it. You got the dvd I had it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely about it about the DVD when it came out,

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Speaker 1: so we used to go use browsing for DVDs.

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Speaker 2: Like, you don't think it's a muscle own movie? Mm hmm, nah, damn,

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Speaker 2: you don't think just in your collection, Like would you

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Speaker 2: show this to your your boys kids like this? They

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Speaker 2: wanted to see this ship, bro, they need to watch

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Speaker 2: the Dark Knight watch that ship. Anything else in this movie? Nah? Nah.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely a classic. It's an amazing film. It's just

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Speaker 2: not a good not a good rewatch, right, what about you?

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Speaker 1: Same Sentiment's definitely a classic, just one of the best

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Speaker 1: plots twists in cinema, but just not a good rewatch yep,

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Speaker 1: I think I have the same sentiment as you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Classic film, great performance by Kevin Spacey, but just not

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Speaker 1: a great rewatch. Once the trick is out of the bag,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like a one trick pony film. But

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Speaker 1: other than that, man, if you haven't seen it, go

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Speaker 1: see it. Go check out the usual suspects. Don't don't

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Speaker 1: believe you see when you watch this right exactly? The

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Speaker 1: whole thing is a lot. But yeah, this has been

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Speaker 1: the frames per second podcast anniversary episode for the Usual

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Speaker 1: Suspects and we are out Piece