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Speaker 2: Mark. Does Taylor Swift live stream that wedding whenever it

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Speaker 2: takes place?

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Speaker 3: Probably not, but I'm looking for my invite though I

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Speaker 3: would like to attend that wedding. It's going to be

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Speaker 3: a who's who all the pjs that will be flying. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: i'mouna agree, that's Sabrina Carpenter.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, if it did get streamed, it would probably break

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Speaker 4: every streaming record ever.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think they said the podcast that she was on

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Speaker 3: with the Kelsey Brothers broke like is a Guinness World record, which.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know YouTube had to be just smile from

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Speaker 4: ear to ear like, Yes, I'm glad you used our

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Speaker 4: platform for this.

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Speaker 2: Apparently they were engaged when she was on that show

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Speaker 2: about that.

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Speaker 4: Hey again, India for her, Good.

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Speaker 3: For them, happy for him.

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Speaker 2: I saw some video circulating yesterday too. Back in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three when they were first dating. Somebody asked Caitlin

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Speaker 2: Clark when she was at Iowa if she thought that

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Speaker 2: this would be a real relationship. He goes, yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: gonna get married. So he was playing that all day

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Speaker 2: long yesterday. So she's psychic too.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, don't say that about me. So

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Speaker 4: something you want to tell us, James, No news, I'm

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Speaker 4: dead serious.

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Speaker 2: Good morning everyone, Welcome in to the Fan Morning Show.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday was cutdown day in the National Football League. The

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Speaker 2: Colts have an initial fifty three man roster. If you're

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Speaker 2: just joining us, we'll give you some thoughts on that.

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Speaker 2: I know, Kevin Bowen, you had put a couple of

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Speaker 2: thoughts updating what you were predicted. Initial fifty three man

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Speaker 2: roster was yesterday, and you went back and updated those things,

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Speaker 2: and probably the one or two biggest thoughts you have are.

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Speaker 6: Well definitely the juju Brents. You know, anytime he caught

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Speaker 6: a second round pick selling on his rookie contract, it's news.

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Speaker 6: Jilani Woods, I don't think he's a former third rounder,

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Speaker 6: so yes, it is news. But again I didn't think

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Speaker 6: he was trending to be on the roster. I would

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Speaker 6: say one certain positive over the last month. I mean,

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Speaker 6: if you look at the Colts starters a week from

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Speaker 6: twenty one of the twenty two expected starters I would

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Speaker 6: say the only guy that got hurt to the degree

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Speaker 6: where he will not be out there Week one, unfortunately,

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Speaker 6: won't be out there at all this season is Justin Wally,

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Speaker 6: the third round pick out of Minnesota. So when you

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Speaker 6: think about that from an injury standpoint, I know, obviously

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Speaker 6: there were some ups and downs and some roller coaster

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Speaker 6: moments over the last month. That's a pretty good bill

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Speaker 6: of health. And you know, Wally, while he was having

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Speaker 6: a nice camp, I mean, he still was a rookie starter.

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Speaker 6: It's not like whatever. It's one of the side of

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Speaker 6: I would say, overall, a pretty good bill of health. James.

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Speaker 6: They only put one guy on IR. They could have

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Speaker 6: put two on IR to back Jalen Carlies. And it

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Speaker 6: doesn't sound like he's going to be out for too

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Speaker 6: too long. You got to be out for at least

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Speaker 6: a month with those rules there. So you know, that's

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Speaker 6: a very popular topic training camp, preseason injuries, injuries, injuries,

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Speaker 2: James, is that you on Twitter yesterday that I saw

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Speaker 2: tweeting out the old picture of Wesley French and Will

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Speaker 2: Freeze standing next to each other and said, it's officially

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Speaker 2: all gone now the French fries are out.

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Speaker 5: Was it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, uh fries. Yeah, that was my editor Jim i

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Speaker 4: that Wesley French had been cut. So yeah, no more

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Speaker 4: French fries for the Colts. However, that is a nature

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Speaker 4: doesn't mean that your career is over or you're done.

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Speaker 4: A lot of these veterans, guys like Lawan Treadwell, I

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Speaker 4: I sent him to at least end up on a

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Speaker 4: next step is just figuring out, Okay, who's gonna get

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Speaker 4: is the next step, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: You any surprise at all that Khalil Herbert, a veteran

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Speaker 6: The cuts a little bit. You know, he battled the

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Speaker 6: hamstring injury in the month of August. Yeah, I do

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Speaker 6: have some questions about what you're going to do on

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Speaker 6: third down week one. Jonathan Taylor to me just as

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Speaker 6: That's just not what he does very well. So, you know,

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Speaker 6: that's a waiverclaim area that I'll be curious about today.

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Speaker 6: Anything there, you know, off of the tackle would be

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Speaker 6: waiver claims, I think they tend to shy away from

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Speaker 6: You know, when you think about it. The Colts, you know,

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Speaker 6: now are they on the open market. Obviously they've really

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Speaker 6: found I know Kenny Moore and Jack Doler are like

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Speaker 6: even like Pierre de Seer or al KaDee Mohammad. You know,

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Speaker 6: last year Samuel Wollmack came in and played an important

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Speaker 6: role form Luke Tanuda made this fifty three man roster

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Speaker 6: as an offensive tackle. He was a formal waiver claim.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, that'll be something to keep an eye on

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Speaker 6: I think it's time that somebody else gets their eyes

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and just to piggyback off of the running back

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Speaker 4: pass catching running back comment certainly something to look into

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Speaker 4: because looking at Cleiar Herbert's career, he's just not a

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I think that is an area that can

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Speaker 4: certainly pursue because DJ Gidding's proved it in college. They

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Speaker 4: it's different than the pros and you probably want some

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Speaker 2: You talk about the influence that lou Ana Rumo has

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Speaker 2: cornerbacks that are coming in, guys that he has worked

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Speaker 2: with in the past, and we're seeing what they've done

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Speaker 2: in the free agency by bringing in a corner and

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Speaker 2: And you talk about the age, it kind of makes

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Speaker 2: another indication, Kevin, does it not that this group certainly

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Speaker 2: Chris Ballard I would think, and maybe even Shane Steichen

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Speaker 2: like they got to win right now. There there's not

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Speaker 2: a lot of development there on the on the defensive

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, that part of me wants to say, duh.

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Speaker 6: I mean when you have the resume of second and Ballard, yeah,

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Speaker 6: you better win out. And you know, really, Anna Rumo

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Speaker 6: has never been a big playing the young dudes in Sincy.

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Speaker 6: You know, there's kind of always a little bit of

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Speaker 6: and James, you had this report yesterday. I've been working

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Speaker 6: out Mike Hilton today, thirty one year old Nickel Corner, who, honestly,

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Speaker 6: little concerned that he got cut by the Dolphins. Don't

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Speaker 6: the Dolphins need all the corners in the world right now?

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Speaker 4: Revenge tour. He's going to join the Colts and beat

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Speaker 6: So him and Xavier Howard both, Yeah're gonna be wagging

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Speaker 6: their fingers week one at the Dolphins. I mean, if

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Speaker 6: year old Tavaria's Howard, thirty year old Kennymore, thirty two

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Speaker 6: at corner get the Canes out. I mean, when you

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Speaker 6: be old at I would think Corner would be one

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Speaker 6: total infusion of guys, and there's plenty of resume with

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Speaker 4: Theah, but also the young guy they brought in, twenty

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Speaker 4: six year old Mika black Man is coming off in

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Speaker 6: Yeah, mean you could be playing two guys in week one, Howard,

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's played football twenty one months and

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Speaker 6: Blackman might be the same sort of calendar. Yeah, so

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Speaker 6: it is very very It's a huge change. But again,

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Speaker 6: like I said to lead off the show, I think

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Speaker 6: a genuine credit to Chris Ballard. If you are going

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Speaker 6: if you are bad in an area and you're going

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Speaker 6: to bring in a new defensive coordinator, you need to

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Speaker 6: make sure that the ingredients in the kitchen are what

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Speaker 6: to swallow your pride and make some cuts that you

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Speaker 6: don't want to. But in a pass happy league, the

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Speaker 6: Colts felt it last year. Their depth of corner got

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Speaker 6: see if it works again. It's more of an aging attempt.

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Speaker 6: We'll see if it works. But definitely, they have overhauled

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which honestly that sounds crazy when you put it

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Speaker 6: Johnason Edwards, we should mention that name. Undrafted free agent

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Speaker 6: It ended a few years ago. But at number thirty five,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one thing at and Zionsville on the

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Speaker 2: text line two three, nineteen seventy, want to ask you

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Speaker 2: But he wants to know what he missed? What did

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Speaker 6: In the NFL, Yeah, played in eleven of thirty four games.

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Speaker 4: back at it, Kevin, they had twelve picks in that

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Speaker 4: Taimawadabar a fine player. Darius Rush. You cut Daniel Scott.

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Speaker 4: He's finally healthy this year. He missed his first two

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Speaker 6: Well, I think, what's truly damning about the twenty twenty

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Speaker 6: You're obviously drafting high in each subsequent round after that.

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Speaker 2: It's The Fan Morning Show ninety three five one h

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Speaker 2: seven five The Fan westpeaks for a lot of folks.

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Speaker 2: When he wants from each of you guys, he's curious,

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Speaker 2: who's the one guy that you'd still like to see

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Speaker 2: back with the cults if you had a perfect world.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to West from the text line, I chose

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Speaker 4: And so again that lets you know that I think

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good one. You know, I'll probably go

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Speaker 6: I get why he's not, but I just thought coleman

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Speaker 4: It's the technician part, because Reggie was like that work.

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Speaker 4: But I'll take a FaceTime hug.

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Speaker 6: What did you say?

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Speaker 4: Jef, who would you pick up if you had to

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Speaker 2: The guy I would have said the same thing, Lama's

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Speaker 2: they could use at some point a guy like that.

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Speaker 2: He's at least a practice squad guy if he doesn't

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Speaker 2: get claimed by somebody else.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a veteran though, so he got released and

435
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Speaker 4: so he could go where he pleases, which probably gives

436
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Speaker 4: the Colt's a good chance to retain him if they

437
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Speaker 4: want to, and if he doesn't want to move, perhaps

438
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Speaker 4: around the country. And then another one so throughout there, Kevin,

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Speaker 4: I thought about just now Isaiah Land. I thought that

440
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Speaker 4: he had a really good training camp numbers game at

441
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Speaker 4: the defensive line spot. So didn't make the cut, but

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Speaker 4: I think that's a guy who actually probably gonna get claimed.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought if they wanted to, they could have

444
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Speaker 6: kept Land and cut one of the defensive tackles. They

445
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Speaker 6: actually cut. They kept one more defense balls big boys

446
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Speaker 6: would even they kept eleven, which is even a big

447
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Speaker 6: number for Ballard. It's usually like ten. So again, as

448
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Speaker 6: we get into today and some of the roster gymnastics

449
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Speaker 6: start to play out, that would be an area where

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Speaker 6: I think, Okay, you know, do they cut one of

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Speaker 6: those defensive tackles. Do they add elsewhere? That'll be something

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Speaker 6: to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 2: One more thing to a lot of people wondering about

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Speaker 2: Carson Steel, and you had mentioned him at the very

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Speaker 2: beginning of the show. We're looking for pass catching running back.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is Carson Steel a guy that that could

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Speaker 2: be brought back?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I I I'll be honestly, I don't really know

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Speaker 6: Carson Steele's history as a pass catching running back there.

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Speaker 4: I just had seven catches last year and soeen games

462
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Speaker 4: for twenty.

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Speaker 2: Six yards, But how many snaps did he even get?

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Speaker 4: Though he would have got more snaps as a pass

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Speaker 4: catcher if he was a better pass catcher.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, probably I'll just take him for the pet alligator.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, you want a bruiser, now, you

468
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Speaker 4: want somebody who can get down. Now, he can definitely

469
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Speaker 4: do that. But yeah, he got two hundred and one

470
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Speaker 4: snaps last year on offense eighteen percent of the snaps

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Speaker 4: and again just seven catches last year for not a

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Speaker 4: lot of yards.

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Speaker 6: I think were the harder decisions for guys like Steel

474
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Speaker 6: or anybody really around the NFL is now that you've

475
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Speaker 6: gotten cut, how do you view it if that team

476
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Speaker 6: wants me back on the practice squad? Do I say,

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Speaker 6: you know what, all right, it's a little bit of

478
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Speaker 6: a hurdle. Practice squad Life's pretty good. Look the amount

479
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Speaker 6: of money I can make, I can get promoted seemingly,

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Speaker 6: you know, rather easily given the new rules there. Or

481
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Speaker 6: do you sit there and say, hey, the team's telling

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Speaker 6: me something. I need to go to another situation. I

483
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Speaker 6: need to get myself in front of you know, different eyes,

484
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Speaker 6: because there are you know, success stories on both ends

485
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Speaker 6: of it, guys that have just gone to the practice

486
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Speaker 6: squad and then reproven themselves and then they're a mainstay.

487
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Speaker 6: Or the Kenny Mooores and the Jack Doyles where you

488
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Speaker 6: know those teams. You know Doyle specifically, Tennessee wanted him back,

489
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Speaker 6: the Colts claimed him, and boom, the rest is history.

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Speaker 6: It's one of the more impressive careers given where he

491
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Speaker 6: was drafted or not drafted, that you'll, frankly ever see

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Speaker 6: with the Colts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just wonder too, if it's the way

494
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Speaker 2: you delivered that message. Hey, numbers game you got caught

495
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Speaker 2: up in that. Wouldn't be surprised if you got claimed

496
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Speaker 2: by another team. You're a good football player. But if not,

497
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Speaker 2: don't be surprised if we call you back for practice squad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of conversations like that.

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Speaker 4: You've got to see how it all shakes out.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up in a moment, we will speak with Steven

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Speaker 2: Holder ESPN about his thoughts on the initial fifty three

503
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Speaker 2: man roster. Dave Richard gonna join us from CBS Fantasy

504
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Speaker 2: Football later on in that hour, and Pete Sampson Kevin

505
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Speaker 2: Pete Sampson coming up in the nine o'clock hour for you,

506
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Speaker 2: my man, he's my therapist, your therapist or your favorite

507
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Speaker 2: guy to talk to you.

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Speaker 6: I don't think he knows that, but every year, like

509
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Speaker 6: I make this like creepy, like awkward intro with him

510
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Speaker 6: and he's kind of like, yeah, I look forward to that, dude.

511
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Speaker 6: I'm just doing this because you know, I'm trying to

512
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Speaker 6: be a nice guy. Can we just get through the segment, and.

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Speaker 3: I do ask him to be on the show. I'm like,

514
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Speaker 3: Kevin bones on the Show's like, God, I guess I'll

515
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Speaker 3: do it.

516
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Speaker 6: He has no idea who I am.

517
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Speaker 2: He's glad that there's a.

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Speaker 4: Restraining credit card.

519
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, Pete Sampson covers the Notre Dame

521
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Speaker 4: fighting Irish to clear up why Kevin Bowen is exciting.

522
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Speaker 6: Saying everybody doesn't know who he is.

523
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Speaker 4: James, I mean not everyone outside of you know, South Bend.

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Speaker 2: Kevin's gonna have a good day, That's all I can

525
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Speaker 2: tell you. We'll talk about it next. On ninety three,

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Speaker 2: five and one oh seven, five of the Fan weregeting

527
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Speaker 2: and welcome into the Fan Morning Show along with Mark Tychton,

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Speaker 2: James Boyd, Kevin. But when I'm jeff Rickard and we're

529
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Speaker 2: talking about the Colts initial fifty three man roster, they

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Speaker 2: made that announcement, Yeah, talking about beef. Well, I know

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Speaker 2: we're getting there.

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Speaker 4: I was talking about beef. I just smell it cooking there.

533
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Speaker 5: I love it.

534
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Speaker 2: You're trying to start trouble early. Oh yeah, here for that.

535
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Speaker 2: Kevin Bond wanted nothing to do with the trouble, but

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Speaker 2: you're pushing the Oh.

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Speaker 4: No, you can't. You can't duck it six three. He

538
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Speaker 4: can't be over that ducket. We still see you in

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Speaker 4: the bushes.

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, would you like to introduce our next guest,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Bonen.

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Speaker 6: A lot to get to Steven Holder with roster cuts

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Speaker 6: and certainly a quarterback storyline that is very, very important

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Speaker 6: for the Yeah, and in a big game.

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Speaker 5: Might I add.

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Speaker 6: I got a great team down there.

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Speaker 2: Help Dame Notre Dame Miami coming up this weekend? Steven,

548
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Speaker 2: did you have any words for mister Notre Dame Kevin

549
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Speaker 2: bowing over here?

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Speaker 5: Hey, listen, I don't trust my guys enough to be talking.

551
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Speaker 5: Trash is trash.

552
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Speaker 4: Neither you deserve to have ranked teams that you cheer for.

553
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Speaker 5: What is this?

554
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Speaker 2: I just told that Jim can make it to the kicker.

555
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Speaker 4: I'm disgusted. I have seen trash talk from both of you,

556
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Speaker 4: Like now high school dances. They're both leaning against the walls.

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Speaker 4: Ye want to go out there exactly?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know sportsmanship? You just playing yuck? What are

560
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Speaker 4: we teaching the game?

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Speaker 6: Trying to win?

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Speaker 5: Trust her? Oh? Let me let me be clear, this

563
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Speaker 5: is not about sportsmanship. No, I love kV, but this

564
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Speaker 5: is not about sportsmanship. This is about I don't want

565
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Speaker 5: to give anybody any ammunition because I don't trust my guys.

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Speaker 5: I've been hurt enough times. This is about me.

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Speaker 6: Stephen watched this team play defense too often last year

568
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Speaker 6: for Thank you Miami Hurricanes. Yeah, Steve and I at

569
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Speaker 6: first time starting quarterback for Notre Dame and going into

570
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Speaker 6: that environment, that's given me a little bit of pause.

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Speaker 6: But I do like Notre Dame in some other areas

572
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Speaker 6: on the team. Uh, should we dive into roster cuts here?

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 6: I suppose Steven hold their ESPN with us here on

575
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Speaker 6: the Payless Liquors hot Line. I guess I actually kind

576
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Speaker 6: of want to go in a different different direction because

577
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Speaker 6: when you joined his last Wednesday, you were fresh off

578
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Speaker 6: the news of, you know, your conversation with Derek Jackson,

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Speaker 6: Anthony Richardson's agent about you know, and I want to

580
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Speaker 6: make sure I get the words right. But you know,

581
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Speaker 6: there was some trust questions, and you know, we've got

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Speaker 6: a lot to talk about. I think I'm paraphrasing a

583
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Speaker 6: little bit of that quote. Any update on Richardson his

584
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Speaker 6: standing within the team, how his team, his own team

585
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Speaker 6: kind of views where he's at right now franchise wise, No,

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't say that there's much that's changed. I think

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Speaker 5: there is a little bit of wait and see, you know,

589
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Speaker 5: to to kind of see how this plays out. I mean,

590
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Speaker 5: clearly the Colts are taking that approach, and I think

591
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Speaker 5: just wanting to see what Daniel Jones looks like, you know,

592
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Speaker 5: does he does he meet expectations and those kinds of things.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they're not trading Anthony Richardson, you know, certainly

594
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Speaker 5: not right now. Could things change? I guess, you know,

595
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Speaker 5: if let's say Daniel Jones takes off, I don't know,

596
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Speaker 5: right I mean that maybe there's a scenario, but right

597
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Speaker 5: now there's no there's no intention on their part of

598
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Speaker 5: trading him, And I don't know that a trade demand

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Speaker 5: has even quote unquote been made to my knowledge. Would

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Speaker 5: would his agent be welcoming of such a thing if

601
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Speaker 5: it were to come to pass? I think so. But

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Speaker 5: but that's not even been discussed that as far as

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Speaker 5: I know, so, I don't think much has changed there.

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Speaker 5: But but I don't think it's necessarily I it's gotten

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Speaker 5: necessarily better either, you know, for lack of a better word.

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Speaker 4: Stephen will hear from Chris Ballard later today and again

607
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Speaker 4: Stephen Holder ESPN joining us on the Payloff Stickers hotline.

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Speaker 4: What questions do you have for the coach GM that

609
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Speaker 4: are really top of mind for you and you think

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Speaker 4: pertinent to this upcoming season or really the future of

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Speaker 4: the team as well.

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Speaker 5: Well. I think there's two separate matters, I guess for

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Speaker 5: for the current team, I think, well, this is a

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Speaker 5: you know, they cut certainly too, two draft picks from

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Speaker 5: a couple of recent drafts. I think Juju Brents in particular.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not saying it's just shocking new It's not.

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Speaker 5: He hasn't helped them at all, But you know, I

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Speaker 5: think he's got to. He's got to speak publicly about that.

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Speaker 5: For or that's the guy that's a second round pick.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's a really high pick. Okay, I don't

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Speaker 5: want gloss over that. I mean, I know people are like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 5: he's never done anything for him, so of course they

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Speaker 5: cut him. Yeah, but a second round pick, it takes

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Speaker 5: a lot of It takes a lot of putting your

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Speaker 5: ego aside to have to cut a second round pick

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Speaker 5: or maybe it's a blow to your ego. I should say,

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Speaker 5: you know, to have to cut a second round pick.

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Speaker 5: And then I think, just like the composition of his teams,

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Speaker 5: does he how does he feel about the depth? The

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Speaker 5: depth is what has gotten them, I feel like to

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Speaker 5: a large degree in recent years, or it's been a

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Speaker 5: big part of their problem at least. So what's the depth? Like,

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Speaker 5: I mean, are you really confident in your offensive line depth?

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Speaker 5: Because I have questions, you know, are you confident in

635
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Speaker 5: your in your linebackers? You got like one linebacker I've

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Speaker 5: ever seen play football that's available, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I'm exaggerating, but not a lot. So the depth is

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Speaker 5: a question I have. And then I think the separate

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Speaker 5: matter is obviously the quarterback situation. I want his take

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Speaker 5: on the decision. We have not heard from him on this,

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Speaker 5: to be completely fair and blunt. Frankly Shamestikeen is sometimes

642
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Speaker 5: the worst person to talk about these things because he

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Speaker 5: doesn't give you any answers. And I would say, I

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Speaker 5: think if you're a skeptic of the quarterback situation. One

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Speaker 5: thing that we keep hearing about Daniel Jones is the operation.

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Speaker 5: The operation, the operation, the pre snap all this, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: Shanstiken has yet to say that Daniel Jones does X

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Speaker 5: really well after the snap. Everything he's talked about is

649
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Speaker 5: before the snap. Well, I think we need more than that. Okay,

650
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Speaker 5: I think at some point does the talent not have

651
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 5: to matter? So I want I want clarity on that. Okay,

652
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 5: what does Anthony Richardson's does Anthony Richardson's ability measure or

653
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 5: how does it measure up against Daniel Jones and what

654
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 5: he does pre snap and walk us through the decision,

655
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Speaker 5: I think with a little more clarity, I don't I

656
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 5: don't think shame Stikeen did that by just repeating the

657
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 5: same thing about the pre snap stuff repeatedly.

658
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Speaker 2: One of the biggest things you think you might see

659
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Speaker 2: by the end of the day today.

660
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm wondering about this Mike Hilton situation. I mean,

661
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 5: he was he was cut by the Dolphins. I think yes,

662
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 5: And so he's a corner. It's played for lou ed Rumo,

663
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 5: and apparently anyone who has ever, ever ever played for

664
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Speaker 5: Lou Edin Rumo is is a prospect to sign with

665
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 5: the Indianapolis Colts if if recent history is any indicator.

666
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 5: So I'm interested to see if that goes anywhere and

667
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Speaker 5: if that does happen. I believe if the report I

668
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Speaker 5: read is correct, I think he's supposed to work out

669
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Speaker 5: today if he if he signs, they probably have to

670
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 5: cut a corner there, and I'm wondering who that is.

671
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 5: So you know, we'll see what happens there. But that

672
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 5: could be a domino that falls today potentially.

673
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Speaker 6: And Steven Holder went to see her from me SPN

674
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Speaker 6: on the Payloss Lickors hot Line. Steven, how would you

675
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Speaker 6: describe what you think how long the leashes for Daniel

676
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 6: Jones compared to Joe Flacco's leash last year.

677
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 5: It's interesting because I think if you're if you're the Colts,

678
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 5: I mean, it shouldn't be like super long, right, I mean,

679
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 5: if Daniel Jones looks like the Daniel Jones we fair

680
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 5: and the one that we've seen a lot of, I mean,

681
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 5: you've got to be terrified, right if that happens early

682
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 5: in the season. On the other hand, you were very clear,

683
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 5: Shane was very clear that he's our guy. So if

684
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 5: you walk that back, I mean, you know, you kind

685
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 5: of lose some credibility there. I don't know, so I

686
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 5: think he's I'm not saying he's boxed himself in, but

687
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 5: but he did kind of he did kind of lay

688
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 5: down a gauntlet there by saying he's a quarterback, He's

689
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 5: our quarterback for the season. Of course, they did say

690
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 5: that about Joe Flacco when they benched him, and two

691
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 5: weeks later we were having a different conversation. So I

692
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 5: don't know. I really just think it boils down to

693
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 5: is he is he helping them win? Are they winning?

694
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 5: Is he helping them win? And you know, is it sustainable?

695
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 5: And we have no idea right now. I think the

696
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 5: range of possibilities for what Daniel Jones can be is

697
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 5: pretty wide. Frankly, you know that spectrum is pretty big

698
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 5: for me. So I'm very interested to see how it

699
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 5: plays out.

700
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Speaker 6: I heard you say earlier in the week that you

701
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 6: felt like Shane Steichen was like a pretty early Daniel

702
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 6: Jones lane in this whole you know, quarterback competition, quarterback battle.

703
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 6: Is there a particular time in the offseason you felt

704
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Speaker 6: like that he started to I guess side with Jones.

705
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Speaker 6: I mean, obviously we saw Anthony miss seven of those

706
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Speaker 6: nine spring practices. Is there any like I guess just

707
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 6: kind of further context around that general thought.

708
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Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting. It's funny. It's kind of like after

709
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 5: the fact, you sometimes get clarity when you go back

710
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 5: and you you know, I would say, hindsight is twenty twenty,

711
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 5: but you know, you might see something at the time

712
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 5: but not understand the totality of it or the context

713
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 5: of it. And I would say a couple of things,

714
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 5: even back to the owner's meetings and James was there.

715
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 5: We were Where were we? James? Yeah, that's right down

716
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 5: on Palm Beach. We asked him, I mean you sat there,

717
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 5: I sat there. We all said that breakfast with Shane

718
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 5: Styke in where they have the coaches availability, and we

719
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 5: tried to grill him on like what was going to

720
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 5: decide this quarterback battle. They had just signed Daniel Jones

721
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 5: like two weeks before this, so it was a very

722
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 5: fresh story. First time we're talking to Shane and he

723
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 5: just said, well, you know, it's going to boil down

724
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 5: to who's more consistent. And we asked the question in

725
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 5: seven different ways. I mean, I'm only exaggerating a little here,

726
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 5: and every single time he said the exact same thing. Nope,

727
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 5: it's going to boil down a consistency, consistency, consistency, And

728
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 5: I walked out of there thinking, well, he ain't talking

729
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 5: about Anthony Richardson. Yeah, and I at that very moment,

730
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 5: so like the last week of March, I walked out

731
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 5: of there like, wait a minute, he's talking about Anthony.

732
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 5: He's talking about Daniel Jones, which we could debate whether

733
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 5: he's consistent, but he certainly wasn't talking about the guy

734
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 5: who completed forty seven percent of his passes. So why

735
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Speaker 5: did I maybe back off of that thinking well, Anthony

736
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 5: was having a pretty good camp by his standards, he

737
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 5: was his best camp, so I thought it was competitive

738
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 5: and I said, well, you know what, you know, maybe

739
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 5: this thing is really up for grabs. And then of

740
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 5: course it went a different way. But there were other

741
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 5: instances I think about, just conversations and little things that

742
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 5: I picked up on that I don't know that he

743
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 5: ever got out of that lane. Shane. I really believe

744
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 5: he was always leaning toward Daniel Jones. I'm not saying

745
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 5: that's wrong, I'm not criticizing it. I'm just just putting

746
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 5: it out there. I think he was always leaning that way.

747
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 4: So Steven, when you looked on the defensive, side of

748
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 4: the ball. We've seen a lot of movement in the

749
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 4: cornerback room and a lot of these guys coming in

750
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 4: are older players. And Mike Hilton, as you mentioned, is

751
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 4: working out for the Colts today. He's an older cornerback.

752
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 4: How much faith do you put into that and how

753
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 4: much faith can the Colts put into that when potentially

754
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 4: you could be starting a guy like Xavin Howard who

755
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: hasn't played in over a year.

756
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 5: I'm skeptical. I gotta be honest. I mean, I guess

757
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 5: I want to trust lou An Rumo. I mean, I

758
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 5: think he's earned it.

759
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 4: But do you think he's earned that just because I mean,

760
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 4: the last time we saw his defense it wasn't good. Now,

761
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 4: he was good a few years ago with some better players, granted,

762
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 4: but has he earned that? Like, because if you're Gus Bradley,

763
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 4: you got to be thinking, yeah, my defensive schemes might

764
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 4: have been different, but you never gave me this kind

765
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 4: of help.

766
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,959
Speaker 5: Well, that's that's fair, right, And I think there's also

767
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,479
Speaker 5: a knock that that's a little bit of a knock

768
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 5: on Amo that's been out there, which is that he

769
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 5: doesn't uh, he doesn't favor young players and that clearly

770
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 5: seems to have credibility, that accutation, because if you ain't

771
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 5: thirty years old, you know, he's probably looking at you

772
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 5: a little sideways around here, it looked like, and that

773
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 5: is perhaps because the reality is he wants to do

774
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 5: a lot of different things within his defense, and young

775
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 5: players they don't usually respond well to that, which is

776
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 5: you know, I think we were talking about this recently,

777
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 5: which is why Justin Wallly emerging the way he did

778
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 5: was so impressive, because that doesn't typically happen with Lou

779
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 5: and Rumo. So so some of the personnel stuff that

780
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 5: maybe happened with him, some of it may have There

781
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 5: may be some some I don't know if fault is

782
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 5: the right word, but there may be some Some of

783
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 5: that may trace to how he uses his personnel and

784
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 5: maybe his his preference for not really putting young players

785
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 5: out there and maybe catering to to their you know,

786
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 5: making a little simpler for those young players. So I

787
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 5: don't know, I just I do think it's a question,

788
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 5: and and we'll have to see. They're giving him a

789
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 5: lot of latitude, Chris Ballard and Saint Stackin are giving

790
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 5: Lou and Umo a lot of latitude here and we'll

791
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 5: see whether they're right or wrong about that.

792
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: Steven Older, thanks for stopping by, as always tries he

793
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 2: James Boyd couldn't get any any traction going on the.

794
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, both of you guys. We got to

795
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 4: bring back hatred in sports. Okay, ah DoD sports mianship talk. Yeah,

796
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 4: teach the kids.

797
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: Better have a good day, Steven. We'll talk to you soon.

798
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 5: We'll pick this up in the media room.

799
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: Do we have two new players in the fan morning

800
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 2: show Fantasy Football League? Mark Dyton? Is we get ready

801
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: to talk about this?

802
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 5: Uh?

803
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to get all their information. I just

804
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 3: have phone numbers to go off of, so I have

805
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: to parse through that while you guys do this.

806
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we will do this. Dave Richard is

807
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 2: a fantasy football expert at CBS kind enough to join

808
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: us here in the midst of what I can only

809
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: assume is a very busy time for him, as we

810
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: are just a week in a day away from the

811
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: first NFL football game of the season. Dave, thanks so

812
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: much for joining us on the Payless Liquors Hotline. How

813
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: many leagues do you think you'll be doing this year?

814
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: The numbers to be about ten, and I haven't drafted

815
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: most of them yet. I just figured out why I

816
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: was waiting to talk to you guys. I have five

817
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: drafts in the next six days, and the one day

818
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: when I don't have a fantasy draft is when I

819
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: go to hard Rock Stadium to see the Miami Hurricanes

820
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: take on the Notre Dame. Boy and I know that

821
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: that's going to be a topic of discussion at some point.

822
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: Maybe we don't go deep into that, but uh, you know,

823
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: as the Hurricanes alum, I just had to bring it

824
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: up that I think Arcanes are going to give the

825
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: Irish game.

826
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 5: Yes, we are not the same team.

827
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: The Hurricanes are not the same team that they were

828
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: last year. Much better defense, obviously a quarterback change. But

829
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: from you know, I talked to people who watch practice

830
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: and sounds like Carson Beck is his old self and

831
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: that could be a problem for the Irish.

832
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 4: Kevin, Yeah, you know what, Dave, keep talking that song

833
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 4: because this guy the studio with a way too.

834
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: Nice an Da've given that?

835
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 6: Are you surprised that Vegas has the line where it

836
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 6: is Notre Dame favors on the road with a starter

837
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 6: that's played four snaps in college football.

838
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: Public perception is king and the way that it works

839
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: in Vegas is that whatever the public thinks is what

840
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: they want to try and bank on. And it almost

841
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: tells me that they think that a lot of money

842
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: is going to come in on Notre Dame, and it

843
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: probably will, and so they probably think it's going to

844
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: be a lot closer and maybe goes down to the wire.

845
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: And when it's a game like that, of course there's

846
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: a chance that the underdog can win. So you know,

847
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: they're probably looking to get like sixty forty, fifty to fifty.

848
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: They do that on a lot of games, but sometimes

849
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: they want to have the line a little bit funky

850
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: and to give themselves just a bit of an edge,

851
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: and I think this could be one of those games.

852
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk some fantasy football day. That's why

853
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: you're here. So I have a couple I have a question,

854
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: really kind of a two part question, which I'm not

855
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: a fan of, but I've got to ask it this way. Sure,

856
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: as fantasy football philosophies evolve, you know, with zero running back,

857
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: where you wait until you get your first running back,

858
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: until you've filled up all your top receiving spots. That

859
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 2: seems to be out of favor. Now, what's the best

860
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 2: general philosophy moving forward these days?

861
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: So I still think getting at least one really good

862
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: running back is a really good idea. But it does

863
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: depend on how big your league is. What do catches

864
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: count for? How many receivers do you start? The real

865
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: key for me, and I don't mean to kind of

866
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: change the direction of your question is how you feel

867
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: about the receivers at the top of the draft board.

868
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: How many receivers when you look at a rankings list,

869
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: how many wide receivers do you look at and you go, oh, yeah,

870
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: that's a stud I would start that guy every week,

871
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: no questions asked, and I would expect somewhere around like

872
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty PPR points from that receiver. And for me,

873
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: that answer is like nine. There's like nine receivers that

874
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: are like that, and so I want to try and

875
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: get as many of those guys as I can without

876
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: necessarily having to give up the chance of getting one

877
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: of the elite running backs that are at the beginning

878
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: of a fantasy draft. So you kind of have to

879
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: make the decision about how badly you want or need

880
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: one or two of those nine wide receivers, and maybe

881
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: for you it's not nine. Maybe the number for you

882
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: is seventh. And however that number is, if it's small,

883
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: you need to take the receiver, even if it means

884
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: passing up on the John Robinson, a Saquon Barkley, a

885
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: Jamier gives you. Gotta go that route because the receivers

886
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: that you'll see later on, you'll go. Okay, you know,

887
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 1: Demonte Adams is good, but he's old and I don't

888
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: know if I could expect him to get seventeen points

889
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: per game. Tyreek Hill was good, He's stunk last year

890
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: and he's kind of old, and I don't know where

891
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: he's had a And we could go on and on

892
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: with receivers. I think that that's really the crux of

893
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: what your draft strategy should be. Before you walk into draft,

894
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: find out how many receivers you really love, and then

895
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: try to get as many of those guys as Chicking.

896
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 4: In again, we have Dave Richard joining us. He covers

897
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 4: fantasy football in the NFL Draft at CBS Sports. Dave,

898
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 4: when you look at the Colts's quarterback change, going from

899
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson to Daniel Jones's QB one how do you

900
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 4: think that affects their receiver as both I guess in

901
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 4: real life but also in fantasy, which we're talking to

902
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 4: you about, Like, do you feel like some players have

903
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 4: been pushed stock up and others have been pushed stock down?

904
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: You know, let us know it's not gonna be by

905
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: a lot, but yeah, it's up a little bit because

906
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: we're talking about a quarterback. Not that Daniel Jones has

907
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: set the world on fire, but he does have a

908
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: higher completion rate over his career than Anthony Richardson does,

909
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: and I mean most quarterbacks do. It's just the way

910
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: that Anthony Richardson's career has worked out so far. And

911
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: so I think it does give a little bit of

912
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,479
Speaker 1: a boost to Josh Downs, to Michael Pittman, to Tyler Warren,

913
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: who I am a huge fan of, and I actually

914
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: think it gives a boost to Jonathan Taylor as well,

915
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: because now Taylor won't have quite the same type of

916
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: competition for touchdowns at the goal line when Anthony Richardson

917
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: is back there. What a nightmare for defenses because they

918
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: could run an RPO and it could go to Taylor,

919
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: could go to Richardson. Richardson could throw it like there

920
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: were a number of different ways to go, and yeah,

921
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: they could still do that with Daniel Jones, but it's

922
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: not quite as threatening and it helps John and Taylor

923
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: kind of boost his upside for touchdowns. Maybe he scores

924
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: fourteen this year after having I believe twelve last year,

925
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: and so I think you feel a little bit better

926
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: about those receivers. I don't know if it means that

927
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: you actually go out and target any of those guys

928
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: before round seven, for example, but you'll know that, all right.

929
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones seems like he has a long leash, looks

930
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: like he'll be the Colts quarterback. You can feel good

931
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: about Pittman. Maybe five catches a game down same thing

932
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: once he's healthy. Warren, I mean, you can tell me

933
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: you've watched all the practices. I loved him in college,

934
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: and I think he's a great fit for what the

935
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: Colts really want to do and need to do as

936
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: far as the middle of the field goes and finding

937
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 1: those one on one matchups. I could see him getting

938
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: four or five catches per game as well.

939
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 6: And that's Dave Richard from CBS Fantasy Expert. He's with

940
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 6: this year on the Paylofs likes hotline Dave rookies that

941
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 6: we like. I had a draft the other night, and

942
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 6: I feel like, all of a sudden, you start looking

943
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 6: on the old Oh, these are the next best available,

944
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 6: And when the rookie names pop up, you're always kind

945
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 6: of like, huh, I guess I remember that dude from college,

946
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 6: but I have no idea his NFL fit. So maybe

947
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 6: a rookie at running back, maybe a rookie at wide

948
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 6: out to keep an eye on.

949
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: Okay, so Omar and Hampton as a chance to be

950
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: potentially as good as Ashton Gent and you can get

951
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: him a full round later. And everybody knows about genty

952
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: because he's had so much hype and you know, tried

953
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: to break Barry Sanders record at Bois and State and

954
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: all that stuff. At Amara and Hampton it's a good

955
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: three down back, and he landed in a great scheme

956
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: for running backs with the LA Chargers. It's a team

957
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: that wants to run the football. It's a team that

958
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: clearly notices good running back talent and will lean on

959
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: that running back. So I don't think he's going to

960
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: lose too many touches to Najie Harris and I'm excited

961
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: about getting him. I think a round three pick is fine,

962
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: but if you really really wanted him in late round two,

963
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: you could take Omar and Hampton at receiver. I keep

964
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 1: hearing from my friends about how good Matthew Golden looks

965
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. And I know we're not used to

966
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: the Packers having a bona fide number one wide receiver,

967
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: but the way that Golden finished his career at Texas,

968
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: it sounds like that's the dude that the Packers got

969
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: and the number one receiver that can stretch defenses, earn

970
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: a big target share, be the number one target geter

971
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. And that's the Packers' offense that was

972
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: forced to run a lot last year. Now I think

973
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: they're going to be able to throw a lot more

974
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: because Jordan Love is healthy aside from his left thumb issue.

975
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: I definitely think that there's a chance that we could

976
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: see Matthew Golden play very well. He's probably maybe like

977
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: my second or third favorite rookie wide receiver, but I

978
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: like the draft value better than I do for Travis

979
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: Hunter and for tedle Roy McMillan, and then at tight

980
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: end it's Tyler Warren just the after catch ability that

981
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: he has the power and strength scenes to have translated

982
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 1: to the NFL after what he did at Penn State.

983
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: And again, I think he could be penciled in for

984
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: four or five catches a game.

985
00:45:58,840 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 4: Dave, this is Mark.

986
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 2: I got a question for you.

987
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 6: I had to draft the other day.

988
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey was staring me right in the face, and

989
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: I passed on him because of just the injuries that

990
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 3: he's had the last couple of years. Am I Am

991
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 3: I in the minority there? Or is there concern with

992
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey just giving the how he's getting older, he's

993
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: had injuries. Sure, what's the plan with him?

994
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 5: So?

995
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: Mark, you've got cmc PTSD. And that's something that about

996
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: half the people in fantasy football has, because about half

997
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: the people in fantasy football have had Christian McCaffrey and

998
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: then lost him to an injury. It happened three times

999
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: now over the last five years. It's kind of a

1000
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: problem when you think about it, But he's if you

1001
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: know that he's healthy and you know that the forty

1002
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: nine ers offense is kind of staying on talent outside

1003
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: of McCaffrey, Kittle, Ricky Piersoll's a breakout wide receiver. I

1004
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 1: really like him a lot too. His game is great

1005
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: when they're missing so many other guys like Uk and

1006
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings, and you can't help but think that McAffrey

1007
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: is going to get more work. And McCaffrey has potential

1008
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: to be just as good as a fantasy quarterback when

1009
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: he's playing running back, especially if those sketches count. So

1010
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: I don't mind taking the chance on Christian McCaffrey. It

1011
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: means spending a later pick on Brian Robinson, who's the

1012
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: backup running back in San Francisco. You want to lock

1013
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: up that back and do what you can't to have

1014
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: a piece of that forty nine ers run game because

1015
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: usually it's really good. But there's no concern about McCaffrey

1016
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: having another injury based on anything other than history, and

1017
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: that's a bad way to draft.

1018
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 5: I just think that if he was a little.

1019
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 1: Banged up now and you know, nursing a hamstring injury

1020
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: or something like that, then sure we could head for

1021
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: the hills. But other than that, like he's ready to go,

1022
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: sounds like he's got enough gas in the tank for

1023
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: one more huge season. I would take him in the

1024
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: first round.

1025
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: Dave Richard CBS any Miami to Notre Dame parting shot

1026
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 2: before we let you go this morning.

1027
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: No, not at all, because you know I'm gonna be

1028
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: on the air again someday and I don't want you

1029
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: guys to remember just in case Notre Dame crushes the games.

1030
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: I think it'll be a great game. It's always a

1031
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: great atmosphere. The rivalry has been huge for a long

1032
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: time time. And uh, let's go. Can.

1033
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: I think we're just gonna get you and Steven Holder

1034
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 2: from ESPN, who's also Miami guy. And Kevin. You'll just

1035
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 2: invite him over watch the game. You'll have cupcakes and milk.

1036
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 6: Just sayas unbelievable fantasy info. Uh but man, he can

1037
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 6: kiss my ass when it comes to Sunday.

1038
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: There we go, bullet you into it, Kevin, There you

1039
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: go day.

1040
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 6: Thank you for the time you got it.

1041
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 5: Guys, good luck on Sunday.

1042
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: There you go, Thank you.

1043
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 5: Now.

1044
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm very happy, you know me. You know, I

1045
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 4: wake up and I.

1046
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 6: Got to see Stephen every day. I don't have to

1047
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 6: see Dave Richard maybe ever.

1048
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 4: Man, that's the best part about it. You gotta start.

1049
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 6: That's how you do it, you just hide behind the

1050
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 6: mic exactly.

1051
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 4: But no, you just got to come in with some

1052
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 4: shades on if your team doesn't do exactly as well

1053
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 4: as you want.

1054
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 6: That's some great fantasy.

1055
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 5: It was.

1056
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 4: I keep forgetting the game is Sunday. That's a unique setup.

1057
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 6: Belichick Monday, right, the Belichick maybe is Monday.

1058
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: We will tell everybody what it is. The latest as

1059
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: far as trees into our fantasy football league coming up

1060
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: in a moment here is Mark has been working furiously

1061
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: on that during the interview. We'll do it next at

1062
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 2: ninety three five. And when I seventy five, you're moving

1063
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: James Boyd with that music. I'll tell you that right now.

1064
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel so triumphant right now. It's like that

1065
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 4: Heaven's gates have opened. Notre Dame has won Sunday nights. Kevin,

1066
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 4: it's all happening.

1067
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 6: He's definitely moving me below the waist in between the

1068
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 6: legs right now. Thank you Mark Dyton for that.

1069
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 4: He's made man both of y'all. You just made Mark

1070
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 4: Clifton both of them them guys.

1071
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I'm saving a Why do you want

1072
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 6: me not to paint some vivid imagery?

1073
00:49:59,040 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 2: No, I don't want you to.

1074
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 6: No, no, well, I'll just turn my mic off.

1075
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 2: Then welcome into our next guest, Pete Sampson from The Athletic.

1076
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 2: He covers Notre Dame football and Pete, all I can

1077
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 2: tell you is Kevin Bowen is excited to speak with

1078
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Speaker 2: you about Golden Dome football.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's at a little early for some of the

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Speaker 7: imagery we've got.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to tell him.

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Speaker 5: Pete.

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Speaker 6: I apologize, but you know I was trying to resemble

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Speaker 6: maybe some of your vivid imagery. As a writer, you

1085
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Speaker 6: do a tremendous job, so thank you for the content.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if that's the smoothest transition that I've

1087
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Speaker 6: ever tried for, but nonetheless, here we are one of

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Speaker 6: your late Well, actually let's go here because we're fresh

1089
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Speaker 6: off a quarterback battle in our market with the Indianapolis Colts,

1090
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Speaker 6: and I think largely that quarterback battle went. I don't know,

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Speaker 6: I don't think there's anything too too shocking. Whereas as

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Speaker 6: I observed the Notre Dame quarterback battle from afar, it

1093
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 6: sounded like a bit like a roller coaster. Could you

1094
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 6: maybe describe it for our audience that hasn't been glued

1095
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Speaker 6: to the athletic Yeah, it.

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Speaker 7: Was because I think it started where CJ. Carr felt

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Speaker 7: like the inevitable winner of it, and then as camp unfolded,

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Speaker 7: you're talking to people who are practicing, like, actually, Kenny

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Speaker 7: Minch has been really good, and then you just kept

1100
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Speaker 7: hearing that, kept hearing that, kept hearing that. Uh So

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Speaker 7: it was almost like the expect the guy who won it,

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Speaker 7: you expected to win it anyway, but how he got

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Speaker 7: there was a surprise. So you know, what, do they

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Speaker 7: have both ready on Sunday night at Miami? I think

1105
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 7: they absolutely do. You know, they're they're hopeful that car

1106
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 7: will be able to answer the call and you know,

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00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 7: handle the environment and all that stuff. But I think

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Speaker 7: you gotta be you gotta be ready with both.

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Speaker 2: What are they on special teams this year?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Not as good as they were last year because they

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Speaker 7: kind of threw a perfect game for pretty much all season.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 7: You know, they lose Mitch Jeter, the kicker who at

1115
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 7: the game winning kind of walk off against Penn State.

1116
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 7: You know, it was huge against A and M earlier

1117
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 7: in the year. So Noah Burnett's a transfer kicker they

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00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 7: have coming in I think I think what I'm mostly

1119
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 7: sort of see and social teams is they're gonna stick

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Speaker 7: Jeremiah Love at kickoff return and that that would get

1121
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Speaker 7: you out of your seat if you're a notre name

1122
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 7: fan to watch. So that's probably the most interesting thing

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Speaker 7: to me on special teams is Jeremiah Love back there.

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Speaker 4: So along those lines, Pete, we know that Jeremiah Love

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Speaker 4: is coming in with a lot of hype, and deservedly so.

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Speaker 4: He's been a great player for the Fighting Irish. But

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00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 4: you had a piece recently in the Athletic kind of

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Speaker 4: going inside the mind of him and r piece by

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Speaker 4: the way, Yeah, you know, and I guess that's the

1130
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 4: unbiased opinion of my colleague there, Kevin Bone. But here

1131
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 4: it's a great piece to kind of go on depth

1132
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 4: and what kind of makes him who he is and

1133
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 4: how much do you think he cares about the heisman?

1134
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 4: But more so just for what that will present from

1135
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 4: a team standpoint, because obviously being that conversation you got

1136
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Speaker 4: to be wonh.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he cares about it on an individual level,

1138
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 7: you know. That's I don't think he's gonna come out

1139
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 7: and tell you that, but you talk to people that

1140
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 7: know him, and yeah, he cares about it a lot it,

1141
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 7: you know, but notre Name's going to have to go

1142
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 7: what eleven and one for him to win the Heisman

1143
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 7: at a minimum, And I think how his Heisman campaign,

1144
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 7: you know, does he get off the ground Sunday night

1145
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 7: or not. I think it's gonna have to be kind

1146
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 7: of more highlight driven than stat driven, if that makes sense,

1147
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 7: Like he's going to have to have a bunch of

1148
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 7: wild plays and considering he can hurtle over you or

1149
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 7: run through you or run around you, like he's very

1150
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 7: capable of it. But yeah, he's I don't think people

1151
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 7: like I think people nationally have caught onto him based

1152
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 7: on the playoff, but like, I don't think people understand

1153
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 7: just how athletic and talented he is. I mean he is.

1154
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 7: He could start on any team in the country anywhere,

1155
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 7: almost at any time. Like he is a absolutely freak athlete.

1156
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 6: And Pete Sampson with us here the Pride of DePaul

1157
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 6: de Paul product. There some rudy and interests comeing on

1158
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 6: Bell Season does great work covering the fighting Irish for

1159
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Speaker 6: the athletic. One of the other pieces I enjoy from

1160
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 6: it here recently Pete was you know, you basically described

1161
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 6: Notre Dame under Marcus Freeman right now as a durable

1162
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Speaker 6: national title contender, And I think I probably speak for

1163
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 6: a lot of sports fans. What you want out of

1164
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 6: your team is how do you have a five, I

1165
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 6: don't know, seven year window where you feel like annually

1166
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 6: your team can be one of the last one standing.

1167
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 6: Obviously very difficult to achieve. I think in some ways

1168
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Speaker 6: it's become harder in college sports to maybe get there,

1169
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 6: just with how much rosters turn over year and a

1170
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Speaker 6: year out. But in what ways do you feel like

1171
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 6: Notre Dame has become a little bit more of a

1172
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Speaker 6: you know, constant team up their top five, top ten

1173
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 6: in recent years, because it wasn't that really for you know,

1174
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Speaker 6: the better part of the two thousands.

1175
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that they've done a good job of

1176
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 7: getting the foundation right. And you know, everyone uses the

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00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 7: word alignment in college football, like Brian Kelly used it

1178
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Speaker 7: at LSU as the reason they left Notre Dame, and

1179
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Speaker 7: I think he was in some ways right, Like I

1180
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 7: don't think Notre name was aligned the way that it

1181
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 7: needed to be. And from the trustees to the president,

1182
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 7: to the ad to the head coach. I think even

1183
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 7: to the like the campus like this is a complicated

1184
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 7: PA place with admissions and residentiality stuff. Like I think

1185
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 7: everyone at not everyone, but more people inside Notre Dame

1186
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 7: understand that when Notreame football is good, like the University

1187
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 7: of Notre Dame is winning too, And that's not always

1188
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 7: been the case, but you know the taste of it

1189
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Speaker 7: last season. You know, Marcus Freeman is somebody that's pretty

1190
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 7: easy to support around here. That helps. But I think

1191
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 7: even at the highest level, they looked at it and

1192
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 7: be like, we want to go for this, Like let's

1193
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 7: not apologize for trying to be great at football and

1194
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 7: having a high end academic experience so that it took

1195
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 7: a while for not Dame to get there. But I

1196
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 7: do think this is as all in on football as

1197
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 7: not Dame has been since I've started covering the team.

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Speaker 2: Curious question, A little bit of a different some changes

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Speaker 2: along the offensive line after some transfers out, believe it

1200
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Speaker 2: or not, but it was a strength and always is

1201
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: a strength the offensive line seems to be for Notre Dame.

1202
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: And what's it look like right now?

1203
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 7: I mean a lot better than it was last year.

1204
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 7: They I mean, they went to A and M with

1205
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 7: six career starts. Their starting offensive line. You know, both

1206
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 7: their tackles are back. They're good. You know, their center returns,

1207
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 7: he's the Indiana guy, ash and Craig he's back from

1208
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 7: an ACL. Billy Shrouss is the left guard. You know,

1209
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 7: he's a captain. So they have four starters back last

1210
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 7: year they had essentially one and a half. And then

1211
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Speaker 7: you know the question is their right guard. Gurby Lambert

1212
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 7: probably wins that job. He's a sophomore six seven three

1213
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 7: twenty looks like a you know, power forward, you know,

1214
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 7: center on a basketball court, like very athletic, huge guy.

1215
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 7: So they should be good. You know, this should be

1216
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 7: a really good offensive line. And it needs to be

1217
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 7: good because I think that last year they kind of

1218
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 7: were bailed out by Riley Leonards Legs a little bit

1219
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 7: if they gave up pressure or CJ. Car Kenny Mitchee.

1220
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 7: They're not as escapable. So line's got to take a

1221
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 7: step forward. They have the material to do it.

1222
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Speaker 4: Pete, this is more of a selfish question because I

1223
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 4: covered him when he was in high school at and

1224
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 4: Drayane up in Northwest Indiana. Drake Bowen named the team captain.

1225
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 4: How do you view his upcoming season and what could

1226
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 4: be the jump that he takes? Because I saw this kid.

1227
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 4: I mean when we played two way football, it was

1228
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 4: like good luck. And now I'm seeing him, you know,

1229
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 4: show up on the bigger stages, obviously coming off that

1230
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 4: national championship run last year.

1231
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think he's kind of classic Notre Dame middle

1232
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 7: linebacker of the last you know, thirty years or so.

1233
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 7: Like it's you know, J. D. Bertrand's with the Falcons,

1234
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 7: Jack Kaiser Indiana guys with the Jaguars now like Bowen's

1235
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 7: like those guys. You know, is he get in a

1236
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 7: freak athlete who's going to cover Jeremiah Love out of

1237
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 7: the backfield every down? Probably not, but knowing where to

1238
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 7: be when to be there, filling gaps like getting everyone aligned.

1239
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 7: Like he's just he's kind of a throwback linebacker. And yeah,

1240
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 7: I think he is in line for a very very

1241
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 7: good season.

1242
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Speaker 2: Well, any words to pump Kevin Bowing up and get

1243
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,479
Speaker 2: all fired up for Miami before we move on today.

1244
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 6: Pete's just as long as the athletic subscriptions paid for

1245
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 6: from a different Bowing account, That's all that matters with

1246
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 6: the I just got to get this creepy Indian interview

1247
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 6: to preview the Nerdame season every year.

1248
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, as long as you know it's not twenty seventeen again,

1249
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 7: there's no turnover chain. I don't think that the atmosphere

1250
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 7: at Miami is going to be as like knock you

1251
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 7: back on your heels as it was. I think it

1252
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 7: will be loud and it will be intense. But I

1253
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 7: think Notre Dame is built much better than the last

1254
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 7: time they went down there to play Miami, and like

1255
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 7: it's just a manner of like, hey, car, let's hand

1256
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 7: the ball off the four. Let's take the easy you know,

1257
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 7: completions to Reardon or you know, the other receivers they've got.

1258
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 7: So if they can get the quarterback just to play

1259
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 7: like a B minus game, I think that they will win.

1260
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 7: But you know, I've seen quarterbacks go down there and

1261
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 7: not quite hit it be minus.

1262
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 6: Did I see you're still looking for Catholics versus convicts

1263
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 6: attendees for a potential story?

1264
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 7: Did I see that I have found enough. It's been

1265
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 7: hilarious to to tract on people who went to the

1266
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 7: game down in eighty nine, because that's sort of what

1267
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 7: ended this series way back when some of them, like

1268
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 7: were seven years old when they were there, and I

1269
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 7: think they got they heard some words they'd never seen

1270
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 7: heard before, maybe had some drinks thrown at them and

1271
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 7: they've ever had thrown at them before. You know, kind

1272
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 7: of ale traumatic experience, I think for some notrain fans

1273
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 7: back in the day.

1274
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 4: So Pete, I do want to kind of go back

1275
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 4: to CJ.

1276
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: Carr.

1277
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Speaker 4: There is a lot of pressure on him obviously to perform.

1278
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 4: So how do you think he has prepared himself as

1279
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 4: best as he can before he's really thrown into that fire,

1280
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 4: because I don't know how much you can prepare.

1281
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 6: Four snaps of Purdue last year. Are you saying that

1282
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 6: that didn't prep him?

1283
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 4: I mean Purdue football last year was you know, not

1284
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 4: exactly riveting stuff to say the least.

1285
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 6: But with CJ.

1286
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 4: Carr on all seriousness, you know, he's replacing a guy

1287
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 4: and Ry Leonard, who is now here with the Colts,

1288
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 4: who you know, did a great job. He helped them

1289
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 4: get to the biggest age of the sport and now

1290
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 4: you got to fill that guy's shoes.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's tough because the offense is going to change.

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Speaker 7: He doesn't move like Leonard moves, throws a much better ball.

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Speaker 7: I think the thing with car is like, how do

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Speaker 7: you make the game plan not revolver around the quarterback,

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Speaker 7: which is hard to do is for a coach, because

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Speaker 7: quarterback just makes everything happen. But like, you got love,

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Speaker 7: you got a good receiver group, really good tight end,

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Speaker 7: multiple backs, good offensive line, Like just keep it as

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Speaker 7: simple as possible. And it's like, maybe you have to

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Speaker 7: not check out us some plays that you run into,

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Speaker 7: some bad looks. That's fine. Just like if you don't

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Speaker 7: make the catastrophic mistake at quarterback in cars first start,

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Speaker 7: I think it'll be okay. But you know he is

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Speaker 7: kind of more of a gun slinging quarterback, like he

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Speaker 7: wants to take some chances. So like how does notarame balance? Like, okay,

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Speaker 7: let's be aggressive, but not too aggressive. That's a that's

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Speaker 7: a tough line to walk in a pretty tough environment.

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Speaker 2: Biggest notable thing is no Northern Illinois on the schedule

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Speaker 2: this year, right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they finally got out of playing Max schools.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't working out for them, so some people will

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Speaker 7: accuse them of ducking the MAC. I think that's probably unfair,

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Speaker 7: but you know it's uh, you know, get get the

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Speaker 7: let's get a little more sec power for conference opponents

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Speaker 7: on there, makes it more interesting for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Always good to talk to you, Pete. Thanks so much

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Speaker 2: for stopping by.

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Speaker 7: Thank anytime.

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Speaker 5: Thank go