1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Live from val Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. Well, hey there everybody, I'm Andrew Langer 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: in for Tony Katz today. I'm Tony Kats today, So 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: glad I can join you and you can join me 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: on this Monday morning. I'm sure it's cold where you are, 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: it's cold where I am. It is going to be 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: a great show today. Listen. We got my good buddy, 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: Jerry Rodgers, the editor of Real Clear Policy and Real 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Clear Health and Real Clear whatever else Jerry does because 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: he does so many other things. Also nominally my co 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 1: host that Andrew and Jerry save the World. We need 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: to do an episode of those. Maybe we'll take today's 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: make it a special episode anyway. Jerry Rodgers joining us 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: at the two o'clock, No, two o'clock My Time hour, 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: the third hour of the show. And in this hour, 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: John Justice, who is a radio host up in the 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: Twin Cities. He is really on the on the ground 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: seeing everything that's going on in Minneapolis. We're going to 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time today talking about Minneapolis and 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: the craziness and most importantly what this means for twenty 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: twenty six. The elections, the midterm elections twenty twenty seven, 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: whatever elections are happening next year, and of course in 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, because guys, the Democratic playbook has been 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: laid out. Oh, you want to join the conversation, message 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: me on x I still call it Twitter at Andrew 26 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: Underscore Langer l A N G E ER. You can 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: also message me on Facebook. And you know something I 28 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: need to set up Land and remind me the next 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: time I do the show. I need to get a 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: special Andrew Linger radio email set up so I can 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: take emails from you guys while I'm on the air. 32 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: But Facebook dot com slash Andrew Langer showy Land. It's 33 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: going to remind me, like right now in any case, 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: we are now seeing so this weekend, and by the way, 35 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: a thoughtful Martin Luther King Day to all who are celebrating. 36 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna hear later on from Alvida King, the Reverend 37 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: doctor Martin Luther King Junior's niece, as well as some 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: thoughts from end doctor King himself. I've got something I'm 39 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: going to play towards the end of the show today, 40 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: so we you know, but what we're going to talk 41 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: about is this thesis now that the Democrats are letting 42 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: us know exactly how they're going to focus on the midterms. 43 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Over the weekend, in my home state now of Virginia, 44 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: we inaugurated a new governor. Her name is Abigail Spanberger, 45 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: and she ran nominally, at least on her ads. For 46 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: many people, she ran as a tried to run as 47 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: a moderate. Now we knew that this was not the case. 48 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: She is who she is. She is a deep Stater 49 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: who got involved in politics because try push back against 50 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: the deep state. She was a CIA case officer. And 51 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: but we also knew because one of her colleagues running, 52 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: Jay Jones, who ran and won as Attorney General. J 53 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: Jones ran on the anti Trump ticket. He presented himself 54 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: as the contrast to Jason Miaris, a gentleman named Jason 55 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: Miras who was the incumbent Attorney general, and j Jones 56 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: and Abigail Spanberger promised that if their team got elected, 57 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: they would push back on all of the horrors of 58 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: the Trump administration, which is exactly, by the way, what 59 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: the Democrats did while Trump was president of the first 60 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: time around, is that you had all of these folks 61 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: run on the on the anti Trump ticket. That's all 62 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: that they have. They're not offering anything positive, they're not 63 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: offering anything to actually solve problems. What they want to 64 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: do is they want to attack Trump. There, anti Trump, 65 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: anti Trump, anti Trump, and they think that this is 66 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: what is going to bring them over. At the same time, 67 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: by the way, their colleagues are fomenting all kinds of 68 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: chaos all around the world. Now, I want to start 69 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: here because you may not have heard any of this yet. 70 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what the morning shows were playing today, 71 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 1: but one of the we're going to hear from Eric Swallowell. 72 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: We're going to here from Hakim Jeffries later on in 73 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: just a few minutes probably, But let us start with 74 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: Charles Schumer, the senior Senator from the great state of 75 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: New York, my original home state. Chuck Schumer was giving 76 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: a presentation and he laid it out there what the 77 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: Democratic agenda is. Let's go to cut number one. 78 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: Please, if you look at the budget actually we're working 79 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: on right now, and we'll have the Tea HUD budget, 80 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: you know, transportation and HUD budget. We restore most of 81 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: the cuts and even go higher than previous years on 82 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: many of the programs that Doge slashed. When I met 83 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: our nominee for HUD secretary then he was nominee, took 84 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: the nice game, but he doesn't seem to have the 85 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: clout to make those views prevail over the uh Doge people, 86 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: over the cut cut cut people. But we have worked 87 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: really hard in the budget and gotten byparts in support 88 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: to increase these amounts and undo a lot of the 89 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: cuts which are essential. 90 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: All right, So so they want to they want to 91 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: bring us back. That's that's what they want to do. 92 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: They want to they want to restore the cuts. They're 93 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: anti Doge. Doge slash slash slash. Now what what did 94 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: Doge slash? Well, lots of things. Now Listen, I I'm 95 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: someone you've heard me before. You you know that I'm 96 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: someone who tends to preach not moderation in terms of politics, 97 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: but moderation in terms of process. I am a very 98 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: deliberative person. As someone who is engaged in public policy 99 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: for a very long time, I try to be deliverer 100 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: and deliberative in the suggestions that I offer, the policies 101 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: that I recommend. That being said, the bureaucracy has gotten 102 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: massively outsized, and when you have a federal government that 103 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: is so massive. Nobody keep tabs of all the ridiculousness 104 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: that's going on. That is what Doge was all about. 105 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: Now today Russ vote. Who is the president's He is 106 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: the head of the Office of Management and Budget, the 107 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: OMB director, by the way, the best job in government. 108 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: I have a whole list, you know, if I had 109 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: my druthers, the things that I would want to do. 110 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: I am incredibly nerdy when it comes to this. I 111 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: have this discussion somebody I knew who at one point 112 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: I was encouraging. This is back during two thousand and eight, 113 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: was encouraging to pursue the vice presidential selection, and this 114 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: person actually got on the list, didn't get it, obviously 115 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: this was not Sarah Palin, but then asked me, he said, well, 116 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: let's let's assume for a moment that John McCain wins. 117 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: What should I What should I look for? I said, well, 118 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: if if it were me, I would be I would 119 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: be pushing you to become the head of the Office 120 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: of Management and Budget. And the person looked very perplexed 121 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: at me. It's always amazing to me when when folks 122 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: asked me questions about government or constant, the Constitution, whatever, 123 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 1: and they get perplexed by my answer. I said, you should, 124 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: you should become home In director. He was perplexed and 125 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: I said, he said, why so well, because you don't 126 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of experience at the federal level. This 127 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 1: is someone who's been involved in state politics. And I said, 128 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: maybe if you're going to pursue higher office, maybe you 129 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: should learn how to run the federal government, and being 130 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: omb director would would do that. By the way, top 131 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: jobs for me, in case you're asking, case you're wondering, 132 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: given my regulatory background, ow Inrector is the top seed. 133 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: Next is the just under the O and B director, 134 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: the Administrator of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, 135 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: the regulatories are would love to be regulatories are would 136 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: love to be the Chief Council for Advocacy at the SBA. 137 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: They're the ones who analyze new regulatory proposals for their 138 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: small business impact. A companion to that is the National 139 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: Ombudsman for Small Business. We ought to get Robert Bolan 140 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: on the air Land and who is currently the National Ombudsman. 141 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: Both of them have incredibly important roles in making sure 142 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: that regulations don't have unfair impacts on the economy and 143 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: on specific businesses. And then finally, you know, the head 144 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: of the Administrative Conference in the United States, that's the 145 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: geek in me. So anyway, omb Director russ Vote is 146 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: up before the Senate today testifying, and he got into 147 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: this very good exchange with Senator Kennedy from Louisiana. Let's 148 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: go ahead and play cut number two. 149 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: You're getting rid of five point five million dollars to lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, 150 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: and intersex advocacy in Uganda, aren't you? 151 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: Yes, sir. 152 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: I can't believe we're arguing about this. 153 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: This is the kind of stuff that want about this. Yeah, 154 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: I gotta say that, Uh, this is what Chuck Schumer 155 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: and the Democrats want to bring back. This is this 156 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: is the kinds of stuff that Doge and the Trump 157 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: administration we're cutting. He wants, Chuck Schumer, I'm sure if 158 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: he asked him, you know, do you want the America 159 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: American taxpayers funding lesbian and gay bisexual research in Uganda? 160 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: By the way, I can't even imagine understanding what is 161 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: happening on the ground and has been happening on the 162 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: ground for decades in Uganda. I cannot imagine what that 163 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: might look like. Wow, that is just crazy. But yeah, 164 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: you want to bring that back. That's exactly what they're 165 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: gonna do. Listen, we're gonna talk about the playbook at 166 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: what the Democrats are doing, and then we're gonna get 167 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: into Minnesota. We're gonna be joined in a few minutes 168 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: by John Justice. I'm Andrew langer In for Tony Katz. 169 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: This is Tony Katz today. Oh, listen, love this song? 170 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: Love it landed? Is Tony ever talk about the music? 171 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: There you go? Good, good song, lunitek forage? What is 172 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: his Red Rider? Always? Good? Hi everybody, I'm Andrew langer 173 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: In for Tony Kats today. Yeah, unfortunately I can't come 174 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: out for the thing on on Saturday. I really wanted to, 175 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: just couldn't make the schedule or just couldn't make it 176 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: work on time, mister Hutt, But you guys are all 177 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: gonna have fun. I don't I know the VIP is 178 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: all sold out, but this is this is a good 179 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: thing anyway, So glad I could join you here in 180 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: for Tony Kats today. Maybe back next week for at 181 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: least one day. You could check us out at Andrew 182 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: on score Langer on the Twitter machine. Please go and 183 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: follow me, leave a comment, let me know what you're 184 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: what you're thinking. So, as I said, the Democrats have 185 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: have They're they're looking at what Abigail Spanberger did and 186 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: Abigail Spanberger's team did in uh in November. They're looking 187 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: at what's happening on the ground. And there's a lot 188 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: By the way, there is a lot of misinformation flying 189 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: around about how Americans are viewing it, how Americans are 190 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: viewing what's going on in in Minneapolis. This is very important. 191 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 4: Here. 192 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: You get Axios which is saying that the president's support 193 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: on on ice and aggressive ice raids is cratering. But 194 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: if you peel back the numbers, this is not so. 195 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: Now we know that there is going to be movement 196 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: of support amongst independents. The more horrific images come out 197 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: of Minnesota, right, the stories of people getting injured, people 198 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: angrily confronting ice just doing their job, all of this 199 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: is it's going to have an impact. We've called this 200 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: the butt four in the past. You know, but for 201 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: the ninety five percent negative coverage of President Trump, his 202 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: numbers would be higher, you know. That's that's what that's 203 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: what we're looking at, and the coverage is just relentless. Well, 204 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,599 Speaker 1: the Democrats see this, they know they have these allies 205 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: in the mainstream press, and so they're building on it. 206 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: And it is, by the way, creating an increasingly dangerous 207 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: situation on the ground. And we've already had the one death, 208 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: we've had the other injuries. I'm about to do a 209 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: hit tomorrow on German television and one of the questions 210 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: that I got asked was about the use of force 211 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: in in Minneapolis, in Minnesota, and I made it really clear. 212 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys have heard me say this before. 213 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: The line that I like to use is, if you 214 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: didn't want to go to Chicago, you shouldn't have gotten 215 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: on this train. If if, if, if you didn't want 216 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: to have some action taken against you by ICE, then 217 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: maybe you shouldn't be blocking traffic. Maybe you shouldn't be 218 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: antagonizing ICE agents who are just trying to do their job. 219 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: We got a clip infect Land to do me favor. 220 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: I always do this to you, and I apologize. Thanks. 221 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: Let's let's go down to Let's go down and play 222 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: cutting number eleven. Here's an ICE agent on the ground 223 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: in Minnesota. Play cut number eleven. Please record here. We're 224 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: here to arrest a child sex offender. And you guys 225 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: out here honky. 226 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 5: Oh now what that right there is honky and impeting 227 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 5: our investigations while we're trying to arrest a child sex offender. 228 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: That's who you guys are protecting. Insane all right, We 229 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: can edit there, so, I mean, that's that's exactly it. 230 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: This is the side. This is how things are being 231 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: laid out. You're either on the side of dealing with 232 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: this problem, which is a problem that was created by 233 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: the left. You Now, I said this this morning, John, 234 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: who's going to join us in a little while. You know, 235 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: he and I trode text I do a hit on 236 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: his show every Monday morning and talking about Minnesota and 237 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: talking about this problem, uh, the immigration issue and what 238 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: has led to the conflicts on the ground in Minnesota. 239 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: And I said to him, this is quintessential Hegelian dialectic. 240 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: And he made a joke as to how it sounds 241 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: like either an eighties band name or a racehorse, which 242 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: which I think is a fun new party game. You know, 243 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: is this is this name a racehorse name? Or is 244 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: it an eighty He's a new wave band Hegelian dialectic, 245 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: and he googled it. Let me explain it to you. 246 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: Hegel was a German philosopher, the precursor to Marx, and 247 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: he surmised that to get this kind of action, to 248 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: get mass action by people, you need to first create 249 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: a problem that precipitates a crisis. Then you exacerbate that crisis, 250 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: and then government action or socialism as they would say, 251 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: or communism is it needed to step in and deal 252 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: with the problem. And we had the first the first 253 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: aspects of it. We've had the permissive nature of the 254 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: Democratic Party in terms of allowing illegal migration. They've allowed 255 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: this to happen, they didn't want to do anything about it. 256 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: Then under the Biden administration, they exacerbated the crisis by 257 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: doing nothing about it and in fact actively encouraging illegals 258 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: to migrate. Here. The goal down the road right is 259 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: to get massive transfusions of cash into these populations, whether 260 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: it's Somali's in Minnesota. Not all of them are legal, 261 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: but a lot of them are. And then when someone 262 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: is going to step in there and try to solve 263 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: the problem, then they become the problem. They become the 264 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: focus of iron that becomes the organizing principle. That is 265 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: exactly what has happened here, and the Democrats are using 266 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: it to their playbook. Here is Hakim jeff By the way, 267 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: this is going to be a theme you're gonna hear 268 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Hegel and Hegelian dialectic. Yes, 269 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: this is the kind of show we do when we're 270 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: in for Tony. But here is Hakim Jeffries over the weekend, 271 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: essentially saying the quiet part out loud. Let's play number three. 272 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: So there's two things to keep in mind here. First 273 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: of all, there's. 274 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 5: Accountability for the corruption and the chaos that Donald Trump 275 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 5: has unleashed on the American people from the very beginning 276 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 5: of his presidency on January twentieth. That should be tied 277 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 5: directly to the Supreme Court and the six right wing 278 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 5: justices who basically gave Donald Trump without justification, blanket immunity 279 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 5: and he's been out of control ever since. So that's 280 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 5: problem number one. Problem number two, of course, is the 281 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 5: fact that there are so many different corrupt sick offens 282 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 5: within the Trump administration, including but not limited to, within 283 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 5: the Department of Justice. Now, these people don't have immunity 284 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 5: and the reality is the statue of limitations is five 285 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 5: years and there will be accountability with the next administration, 286 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 5: if not before when Democrats take back control of the 287 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 5: House of Representatives. 288 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: So that's what he is promising. That is what Abigail 289 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: Spanberger has promised. And we're going to get into it. 290 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: I don't want to play it now, you know, some 291 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: maybe we do. Let me play this one right now 292 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: here is Eric Swalwell, who is running for governor of California. 293 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say. Let's play cut number four. 294 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: We're going to come back to this book. Play cut 295 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: numb four. I'll do the introduction. They're going to lose 296 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: their immunity. They're not going to be able to drive. 297 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: I will take your driver's license. Good luck walking to work. Yeah. 298 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: And at the end of that clip, by the way, 299 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: there's a woman laughing. So what Eric Swallwell is saying. 300 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: I always love that name because it's like a name 301 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: out of Dickens Swallwell. Eric Swalwell is again going down 302 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: the issue of immunity the year. He's talking about ice 303 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: agents and their sovereign immunity from prosecution. He's saying he's 304 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: going to take away their driver's licenses. Now, I want 305 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: you to understand. I think it was on these airwaves 306 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago we talked about what was 307 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: going on with California and California guaranteeing commercial driver's license 308 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: to illegal immigrants. So Eric Swalwell is going to reward 309 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants with commercial driver's licenses while taking away the 310 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: personal driver's licenses of ICE agents who are trying to 311 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: do their job in enforced federal law. That's the Democrat agenda. 312 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: Now we're going to get into specifics as to what's 313 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: happening on the ground in Minnesota. In Minneapolis and Saint Paul. 314 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: We're going to be joined by my good buddy John Justice, 315 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: who's on Twin Cities News Talk in the Twin Cities 316 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: obviously because John's got a pulse on everything that's there. 317 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm Andrew Langer. I am in for Tony Katz today, 318 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: and of course this is Tony Katz today. We're back. 319 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: I am Andrew Langer in for Tony Katz today so 320 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 1: that I can join you and you can join me. 321 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: Joining all of us right now is my good buddy 322 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: John Justice j O. N. Justice Justice on the Twitter machine. 323 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: I do a hit with him every every Monday morning. 324 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: Always glad to do that with you, and always glad 325 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: to return the favor, John, And talk to you because 326 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: Minnesota is in the I don't want to say crosshairs. 327 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: That's a bad that's a bad way to put it. 328 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: Minnesota is in the spotlight right now and in many 329 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: ways thankfully, right John, because you've been you've been watching 330 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: the corruption unfold there for some time. Uh, talk to 331 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: us about what the latest is, what's what's happening on 332 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: the ground in the Twin Cities. 333 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 4: Well, I think crosshairs, Andrew, and thanks for having me on. 334 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 4: I think crosshairs is absolutely correct. I think we are 335 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 4: We're sure it's wild. It's wild with so much national 336 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 4: attention to what we've been talking about locally for so long. 337 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 4: You know, of course, the focus had been the billions 338 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 4: of dollars in fraud. That story will will be the 339 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 4: headlines again in the near future. But you know, obviously, 340 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 4: right now Trump and his deportation efforts, right it's focused 341 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 4: on Minnesota and what's been taking place, the pushback not 342 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: just from a lot of a lot of the citizens, 343 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 4: but at the urging of the Democrat leadership here in 344 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 4: Minnesota too well, I think they. 345 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: Urging of the Democrat leadership elsewhere. I mean, this has 346 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: really become the crux of all kinds of things. I mean, 347 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: we've seen this before and it never seems to end 348 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: well for the local population. And here's a population, right John, 349 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: that is well prepared to be outside in the in 350 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: the middle of the frigid winter. You know, one would 351 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: think otherwise that they that they might stay home on 352 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: these cold days. Not so in Minnesota. But this, this 353 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: cannot end well. Tell us a little bit about Jacob Frye, 354 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: the mayor of Is he the mayor of Minneapolis or 355 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Saint Paul? 356 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 4: He's the mayor of Minneapolis. 357 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. 358 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 4: And it's interesting because Jacob Frye has, you know, somewhat 359 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 4: of the familiarity in terms of his story, like Governor 360 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 4: Tim Walls. I mean, both Walls and Jacob fry were 361 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 4: not originally from here. And certainly that's not, you know, 362 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 4: necessarily a given negative to anybody who comes into Estates, 363 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 4: spends some time here and runs for and runs for office. 364 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 4: I do find it rather interesting that both of these 365 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 4: individuals who are now embroiled in controversy with the DJ 366 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 4: looking into their actions of whether or not they broke 367 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: the law in impeding ICE's ability to conduct what they're doing. 368 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 4: But you know, Jacob Fry has this been this bizarre 369 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 4: figurehead in Minneapolis for a while. He's attempted to ride 370 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: you know, I say a moderate line, but it's really 371 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: not moderate. It's moderate by Minnesota standards, which is still 372 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 4: far left by most other standards. 373 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: Uh. 374 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 4: This controversy that we're currently dealing with regarding the pushback 375 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 4: on ICE very reminiscent to what we dealt with during 376 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 4: the Summer of Love George Floyd riots and Jacob Fry 377 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 4: is just not you know, he's he he's out of 378 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 4: his depth in dealing with this. I've compared him jokingly 379 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 4: on the air to you know, if Bobby Newport from 380 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 4: Parson rec was a Marxist, it would be Jacob Fry. 381 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 4: He sort of has that ideology along with being and 382 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 4: I'm going to be rude here, kind of kind of 383 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 4: an idiot, which is a very dangerous, you know, combination 384 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 4: with circumstances that we're dealing with right now. 385 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: It's a you know, Jacob Fry and I share the 386 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: William and Mary Alma mater pedigree, which which I've I 387 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: found I found fascinating and I met in an event 388 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: a couple a couple of years back. I'm like, oh, 389 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: I wait, I know this name, I know who you are. 390 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: But let's talk about what's happening on the ground. So, 391 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: after the Somali scandal broke, Tim Walls essentially forced to 392 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: not run for a third term. But his actions, in 393 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: Jacob Fry's actions are in action in dealing with this 394 00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: problem has essentially steinied the Minnesota Democratic Party, hasn't it. 395 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean's everything's kind of stalled right now. I 396 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: was talking about this on the show this morning. You know, 397 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 4: the two biggest stories that we've been dealing with has 398 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 4: been the fraud here in the state of Minnesota, and 399 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 4: now we have numerous investigations going on, and of course 400 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 4: the Ice Enforcement has taken president over that. But really 401 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 4: the third story that nobody's talking about is we have 402 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: a governor's race Governor Tim Walls, and now two weeks 403 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 4: ago he's not running for a third term. There is 404 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 4: no Democrat candidate. There is no Democrat candidate, and the 405 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 4: assumption of Nami Klobushar is going to run. But really, 406 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 4: that's just based off of the fact that Governor Tim 407 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 4: Walls spoke with her prior to making the announcement that 408 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 4: he was dropping out. And we haven't really seen anything 409 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 4: from her apart from a public appearance she did a 410 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 4: few days ago, given any indication that she's going to 411 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 4: launch a governor's race anytime soon. And I mean it 412 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 4: really is in right'll be bizarre that here you have sorry, 413 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 4: go ahead, nobody ready for governor for Democrats. 414 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: So so, what has she said, if anything, about about 415 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: the good shooting or the sort of the chaos that 416 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: is that is happening here. What does she what does 417 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: she had to say? 418 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 4: Her nickname here is a Senator of small things because 419 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 4: she stays out of the spotlight. She does, you know, 420 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 4: tiny things in Congress, like dealing with ticketmaster prices and 421 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 4: these types of things, but really doesn't do anything controversial. 422 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 4: She was speaking to a group a few days ago 423 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 4: and she finally made public comments. Very the tone was 424 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 4: very limited in terms of her aggression in calling out 425 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 4: the tactics of Ice, and she was taking a very 426 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 4: sort of they shouldn't be going as far as they 427 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 4: are going. She stopped short of certainly supporting any efforts 428 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 4: of Ice. But these are the first public statements that 429 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 4: she's that she's made, not talking about you know, Governor 430 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 4: Tim Walls, not talking about Jacob Fry as far as 431 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 4: I as far as I understand, but simply you know, 432 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 4: giving a sort of moderate again by Democrat standards, a 433 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 4: moderate pushback on what Ice is doing. And there are 434 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 4: some that are pointing to that, saying, Okay, this is 435 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 4: the first indication of how she might conduct herself in 436 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 4: a campaign. But really that's just speculation based off of 437 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 4: what I mentioned before, and that is there is no 438 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 4: Democrat running for governor right now, and the assumption as 439 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 4: she will, so they are assuming that this is a 440 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 4: lead into that, and you know, I honestly, I don't 441 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 4: know that it is. I think there are some other 442 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 4: shoes that have to drop before any candidate makes an 443 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 4: announcement to run for governor on the Democrat side. 444 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: Plus, she is, you know, she's on the list of 445 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: potential Democrats to run for president twenty twenty eight. So 446 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to do anything to jeopard as that 447 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: does she no, and. 448 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 4: She's always wanted to run. She's run before, and I 449 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 4: would welcome that because I think that much like Governor 450 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 4: Tim Walls. She plays well here in Minnesota. She's arguably 451 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 4: the most popular Democrat in Minnesota, but she's also nailed 452 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 4: on a chalkboard annoying. And she's one of those candidates, 453 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 4: in my opinion, on the Republican side, kind of like 454 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 4: you know, a DeSantis who didn't play well on the 455 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 4: national stage but plays excellent in Florida. She plays great 456 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 4: for Democrats here in Minnesota, but I think on the 457 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 4: national stage, I don't think that that's going to carry 458 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 4: over outside of Minnesota. But yes, she absolutely has presidential aspirations. 459 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: So let's let's turn our attention to this, this situation 460 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: with Don Lemon and this church and the accusations that 461 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: were made against the pastor. For those of you who 462 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: are uninitiated, there was a pastor of a church who 463 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: was accused of collaborating a god, for collaborating with Ice 464 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: and and Don Lemon, along with a bunch of activists 465 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: swarmed the church. Was it yesterday, John, Yes, it was. 466 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: It was. 467 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 4: It was yesterday morning, the city's church in Saint Paul. 468 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. But you know, tell us and tell us what 469 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: I mean this is. We've got actually, you know something 470 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: land and do me favor. Let's go drop down, Let's 471 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: go and play cut number nine. This is this unhinged 472 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: leftist Go ahead and play cut number nine. 473 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 6: As you can see, all these pretend Christians, all these 474 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 6: comfortable white people who are living lavish, comfortable lives, well 475 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 6: children are dragged into concentration camps. You're living real life, 476 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 6: nice lives and your lattes, doing absolutely nothing for your 477 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 6: Latino and Somali brothers and sisters. 478 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: You come here to a man, all right, we get 479 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: into it there doing doing absolutely nothing for your Latino 480 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: and Somali brothers and sisters who are actively reaching into 481 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: your pocket and stealing your money. But this is what 482 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: you guys are contending with on a daily basis, John, 483 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: isn't it Well? 484 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? And what you have here is you have Nikima 485 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 4: Levy Armstrong. She led this protest. She was one of 486 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 4: the figureheads during the prominence of the Black Lives Matter movement, 487 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 4: especially going back to twenty twenty and George Floyd. The 488 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 4: voice you heard there is an individual named William Kelly. 489 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 4: My understanding is he's kind of a paid agitator. He 490 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 4: goes state to state talking about ice. But what you 491 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 4: have here is a group of individuals going full Communist 492 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 4: in their protests and seeing all the attention that's being 493 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 4: made regarding pushback on ICE and deciding, hey, we have 494 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 4: an opportunity here to really grab some attention. So they 495 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 4: marched into a church right as the sermon was starting 496 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 4: on Sunday morning because of these claims of the pastor 497 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 4: being involved with ICE, shut the church down and basically 498 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 4: ran off the people inside the church, you know, with 499 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 4: these fear and intimidation tactics. And now the Department of 500 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 4: Justice is looking into a potential of the Face Act 501 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 4: violation from these individuals. But Andrew, it's once again another 502 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 4: perfect example of how often, how almost every single time 503 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 4: Democrats overreached in times of controversy like this. I'm waiting 504 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 4: to see if we see Democrat leadership come out and 505 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 4: actually condemn what took place. As of right now on 506 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 4: our conversation, I have not seen that yet. 507 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: No I haven't. I haven't seen it either, And you know, 508 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: it's it's there's a there's a race against the clock here. 509 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: And I don't mean in terms of the potential for 510 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred soldiers to come in the eleventh Airborne Division 511 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: for them to literally be air dropped in to this situation. 512 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: But you know, when you get situations in which you 513 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: now have you know something, it's the John and I 514 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: were trying to find names for this group that's going 515 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: to be dropped in the opposition is the dough Boys, 516 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: which is which is you know, the guy with the 517 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: the the AR fifteen and right. I don't dispute his 518 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: right to carry his rifle, but this is not going 519 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: to This is not going to end well. By the way, 520 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: when did when did the have to decide that they 521 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: were gonna turn to this. I thought, you know, after 522 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: the Kyle Rittenhouse situation, they were no longer going to 523 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: engage in this kind of activity. 524 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 4: You know, Andrew, I've been saying since the start of 525 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 4: my radio career, and you know this, and Anab, you 526 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 4: know everybody. I think most people listening know this. 527 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: If you're on the. 528 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 4: Left, you can be as irrational and hypocritical as you 529 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 4: want to be as long as it further's the message. 530 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 4: They simply do not care about the hypocrisy. But you 531 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 4: are absolutely right, especially in this state where they are 532 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 4: so antigun. Every legislative session they pushed to limit your 533 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 4: right to keep in bare arms, and yet here we 534 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 4: are people standing on the street corner with their long 535 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 4: rifles using it to protect their neighborhoods. Yeah, as I 536 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 4: say on the show, make it make sense. 537 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: Well, listen, John John, we got to leave it there. 538 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: John Justice. You can hear him every morning on his show. 539 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: He also does his Mi nerd World podcast. He is 540 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: an author. Go follow him at John j O N 541 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: Justice John Justice on the Twitter Machine. Thank you very much, 542 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: my friend. We'll talk to you next week, Dougy ex 543 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: week buddy. Thank you, thanks and listen more to come here. 544 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: On the Tony Katz Today Show, I'm Andrew Langer back 545 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: in a moment. Well, hey everybody, I'm Andrew Langer in 546 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: for Tony Katz Today, and we're talking about what's happening 547 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: on the ground in Minnesota, don't you know. You know, 548 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: here's the thing that gets me. I mean everybody, not everybody, 549 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: but lots of folks are sort of flocking there, which 550 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm a little, frankly a little disturbed by. You know, 551 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: I guess if you're an independent journalism, this is the 552 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: place to go. We're gonna play later on the video 553 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: of Nick Sartor, who is an independent journalist who had 554 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: a camera stolen, and the Minneapolis police were less than 555 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: cooperative in trying to help him find it. But the 556 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: FBI is apparently stepping in. But Don Lemon is on 557 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: the ground, and the problem, of course is folks who 558 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: are parachuting in when he use that term, and making 559 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: themselves a part of the story. You know, Don Lemon 560 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: is a prime example of this. We're gonna get through 561 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: in the next hour some more of what he had 562 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: to say, But here he is in that mob takeover 563 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: of this church. It's what we got number six. This 564 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: is the beginning of what's going to happen here when 565 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: you violate people's due process, when you pull people off 566 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: the street and you. 567 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 5: Start dragging them and hurting them and not abiding by 568 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 5: the constitution. 569 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: When you start doing all of that, people get upset 570 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: and angry. 571 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 5: And if you remember what the Civil rights movement was about, 572 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 5: the Civil rights movement. 573 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: Was about these very kinds of protests. There's nothing in 574 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: the constitution that tells you what time you can protest. 575 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: You can protest at anytime. That's the whole point of 576 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: it is suggesting, and well, actually, there are time, manner, 577 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: and place restrictions placed on exercises at the First Amendment. Now, 578 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,719 Speaker 1: I'm someone who believes in my bones that that we 579 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: should have the most expansive interpretation of First Amendment rights. 580 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: But let's remember that's the thing that gets me. And 581 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: you know two things that Don Lemon said in that 582 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: statement that just gave me. Number one is the comparison 583 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: of this to the civil rights movement. You know, the 584 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: civil rights activists were not standing in the way of 585 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: the law dealing with hardened criminals, right. You know, if 586 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: there had been a Martin Luther King, I'll say this, 587 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: if if Malcolm X had had been marching in the 588 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: name of, you know, protecting citizenry, he would be on 589 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: the side of making sure that the folks who were 590 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: being scooped up by law enforcement were not being scooped 591 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: up because they were engaged in violent sexual assaults on 592 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: other people. They would have been there to protect the 593 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: rights of average, everyday African Americans, those who were actually 594 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: abiding by the law. So that's part one in all 595 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: of this, And part two is the failure to recognize 596 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: that the law places guardrails on the exercise of rights 597 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: when they impact on the rights of others. So under 598 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: the First Amendment, I have the right to wave my 599 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: hand around than a wild interpretive dance until my hands 600 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: connect with the bridge of your nose. I don't have 601 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: the right to hit you across the nose in the 602 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: name of my First Amendment rights, because that violates your 603 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: right to be securing your person and possession in this instance, Yeah, 604 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: they have every right to protest, but they don't have 605 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: the rights to disrupt other people's exercise of their First 606 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: Amendment right to practice their religion. That's why the law 607 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,919 Speaker 1: protects the people in this church. Listen. More to come 608 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: on this obviously, I'm Andrew Langer. This, of course is 609 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today.