Speaker 1: The Frames per Second podcast, What's going on in Your Boy? Nick?
Speaker 2: I am here with I am Spike Lou of the
Speaker 2: on Deck TV show and another week in the books.
Speaker 1: How you doing? Man? What on? My brother? Mike? Seetail? Yo?
Speaker 1: What's going on? Kennethy? Hold on? And one half of
Speaker 1: the rights miss naturally n How you doing?
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 1: I am good? I am good.
Speaker 2: We gotta talk about the Voice Sisters in an extended
Speaker 2: conversation eventually, and Ken, I know you're gonna start watching them.
Speaker 2: You're gonna start watching this shot soon. So about that?
Speaker 4: Hey when YouTube start talking about the show, because it
Speaker 4: makes me want to see what the hell y'all talking about?
Speaker 4: And then I get caught up in the mess bro
Speaker 4: every single time. I'm trying to tell.
Speaker 2: You your kid, if you think Apocalypse is bad at
Speaker 2: X Men ninety seven, Geneva and the Voice Systems is
Speaker 2: the word villain I've seen all year.
Speaker 1: But let's get back to the show we're talking about.
Speaker 2: I think Rob will be joined us towards the end
Speaker 2: or maybe halfway through this point, but you're now tuned
Speaker 2: it into the France for a second podcast, and in
Speaker 2: this episode, we are continuing on with our weekly recaps
Speaker 2: of the hit HBO original series coming from the Game
Speaker 2: of Thrones universe titled House the Dragon, with this recap
Speaker 2: being dedicated episode three or season three episode four titled Tumbleton.
Speaker 1: So let's get started. Overall thoughts, I'll start with you name.
Speaker 3: It was okay.
Speaker 5: This is probably my least favorite episode that I've seen
Speaker 5: this thus.
Speaker 3: Far, but it was still decent.
Speaker 1: What about Ulu? It was good. I think they do
Speaker 1: they they found their stripe.
Speaker 6: They were in a place now where even episodes like this,
Speaker 6: where they might put it last week or mildly interesting,
Speaker 6: they still a like trash even though nothing happens. I
Speaker 6: like the story that they build, and I like the
Speaker 6: characters and stuff now.
Speaker 1: So it was good, Mike, Yeah, it was all right.
Speaker 1: It was all right. I wasn't excited.
Speaker 7: A few interesting things happened, but for the most part
Speaker 7: it was it was fine.
Speaker 1: What about you Ken, I think when it was over,
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't enjoy it.
Speaker 4: As much as the last episode, but I still think
Speaker 4: it was good. And my overall thought was they set
Speaker 4: up it feels like a lot of shit that could
Speaker 4: come back around, and that was the thing that I
Speaker 4: found the most intriguing about this episode.
Speaker 1: It was moving pieces on the board and man, this
Speaker 1: shit go down the way it could go down.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be it's gonna be really interesting to see
Speaker 4: how all our folks.
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, ken, because I actually really
Speaker 1: liked this episode.
Speaker 2: I A, yeah, enjoy it for different reasons, but I
Speaker 2: think maybe closely as much as the last one, just because, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we were so focused on Ranier last episode.
Speaker 1: This episode kind of lets you know, like how everything else.
Speaker 2: Is moving, you know, even with you still getting a
Speaker 2: lot of Verner in this But how we ended it
Speaker 2: was on some It was some really interesting shit how
Speaker 2: we ended this episode.
Speaker 1: But I liked it a lot. And we start off.
Speaker 2: With the main character of this episode seeing Ormond High
Speaker 2: Tower and his army take over Tumbleton in an aggressive manner. Mike,
Speaker 2: what did you think about how we start off this
Speaker 2: episode with the High Tower Army and Tumbleton residents.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to remember, honestly, this one was kind of
Speaker 7: a blur to be to be to be honest with you,
Speaker 7: I'm trying to remember. So this is not the attempted
Speaker 7: great part.
Speaker 1: Not yet.
Speaker 2: Just learn the fact that they literally just came in.
Speaker 1: They did the same thing he said, Yeah, Lou.
Speaker 2: Said how he would take over places with a dragon.
Speaker 1: They did that without that, They were.
Speaker 7: Just walking through and being like, all right, three of
Speaker 7: you in this house, and I'll take this house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 7: I guess that dude just doesn't care if the people
Speaker 7: of the area are cool with what he's doing, clearly,
Speaker 7: and I guess we see that for sure by the.
Speaker 1: End of the episode.
Speaker 7: But no, I mean it was it's it was typical,
Speaker 7: felt like the US government, So it felt pretty pretty familiar.
Speaker 2: Lou, were you interested in seeing how Ormond was pretty
Speaker 2: much how he operates and how he runs the show,
Speaker 2: because I feel like before this episode we only got
Speaker 2: like snippets of him reacting to like just news and information,
Speaker 2: but like, now we see him cook.
Speaker 1: What did you think about, like how you operate?
Speaker 6: I like it, man, I think he's one of the
Speaker 6: more interesting characters in this season. Now as they start
Speaker 6: to dive into him more, they did it correctly, like
Speaker 6: giving you a glimpse, giving you a glimpse, and now
Speaker 6: we get this episode where he's the primary focus of it,
Speaker 6: and even you have Rianera talking to his cousin and
Speaker 6: she telling him stuff about him.
Speaker 1: So they kind of building this character out and he good.
Speaker 6: I think he good. He good for the Game of
Speaker 6: Thrones world. So I like them showing this. I like
Speaker 6: the interaction with the soldier, his play coming together all that.
Speaker 1: I think he's good. Nay already, Nick, he too pretty
Speaker 1: to a villain.
Speaker 7: No pretty ass white man make make the scariest villains.
Speaker 1: Oh true.
Speaker 7: And the second you see this motherfucker, he's too chiseled.
Speaker 7: He looks like a perfect Arian Nazi warrior. And when
Speaker 7: he got about that bath, Nick I was like, oh.
Speaker 8: Jesus, this is how you know they at the time
Speaker 8: they do a white villain, because they did this in
Speaker 8: the Boys. They just have him take a butt nicking
Speaker 8: bath and they just stand up with everybody looks like, nigga,
Speaker 8: I don't know you're looking at me.
Speaker 1: I ain't looking at you. A white man was dick
Speaker 1: like that? Nick best believe he's ready for war and
Speaker 1: showed it was in front of his wife. Was fatfall
Speaker 1: It was? It was?
Speaker 3: And he had a towel, had to nerd a white
Speaker 3: and his taste meself.
Speaker 6: He had a hand tail, he handto I ain't even
Speaker 6: have a full time nay I need they I was
Speaker 6: thinking about you.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about you in this scene because I
Speaker 2: liked how the wife what was his name, Lord Footley
Speaker 2: or something like that, wife like they said all the
Speaker 2: ship that I felt like you were saying he was.
Speaker 3: To a nigga who was niked in the bathtub. It's
Speaker 3: a different level of like no funks giving, bro.
Speaker 1: Nick, I was watching it. You know, we're watching together.
Speaker 1: I said, there's always a woman talking ship. This dude,
Speaker 1: he's trying to keep baring ship, just going.
Speaker 4: Reminded me of the Last Dragon something else we watch.
Speaker 4: We ain't gonna stand for this bullshit.
Speaker 1: And this because why should we.
Speaker 5: This nigga is vulnerable, naked in a bathtub, he's talking ship.
Speaker 3: I'm an equal to disrespect he was he was given.
Speaker 5: He was reminding me of what's his name, Bolton from
Speaker 5: House of from Game of Thrones.
Speaker 3: He's given me that kind.
Speaker 7: Of Oh, the one that got his dick chopped off dogs?
Speaker 9: Oh okay, the real crazy one.
Speaker 1: Mike.
Speaker 2: Why was you disagreeing with as far as like letting
Speaker 2: the wife talk.
Speaker 1: I did not. I didn't say that I'm gonna fall
Speaker 1: with some ship like that, you better move on, Nick
Speaker 1: trying to sound so sincere too, like he really mean,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Nah? He an'tuinely want to know
Speaker 1: the answer. He was like, she don't need to be
Speaker 1: saying all that stuff that she's saying in front of him.
Speaker 7: I mean, she doesn't know. What I was shaking my
Speaker 7: head about is. I don't think he's vulnerable. If if
Speaker 7: a white man stand up like that with his dick
Speaker 7: just dangling in the wind, he got some ship up
Speaker 7: his sleeve, I'm not fucking with him. If I go
Speaker 7: to the wrong side of town and a neked ass
Speaker 7: man comes running up, I'm looking like, oh, he's he's naked,
Speaker 7: he can't fight. No, I'm gonna be like that motherfucker's
Speaker 7: crazy and he's probably got a blade or something.
Speaker 1: That dude is nuts and I don't know. Come on,
Speaker 1: you have to do it.
Speaker 2: You have to pull up people and be obvious with
Speaker 2: your PUDs.
Speaker 1: You did. Oh you said he was nuts. I couldn't
Speaker 1: mean that. But let's move it on real quick.
Speaker 2: Before we go to the next scene, Darren and Ormond's relationship, Ken,
Speaker 2: what were your thoughts on it at the beginning of
Speaker 2: this episode, Because this is the first time we see
Speaker 2: darn Yeah, Alison's youngest son. I think, well, this is
Speaker 2: the first time we see Darren like actually speaking and
Speaker 2: like where he's at right now since the last time
Speaker 2: we seen him. And we see Ormond like communicating with
Speaker 2: him and like like a mentee.
Speaker 4: He did, but it looked one sided and and Darren
Speaker 4: littles like like looks like it's like he's just terrified
Speaker 4: of this guy, you know, So he doesn't look at
Speaker 4: ease at all.
Speaker 1: In this whole situation.
Speaker 4: He's just kind of going along with, you know, with
Speaker 4: what he's proposing, whatever he's saying to do. So at first,
Speaker 4: you know, last episode, it seemed like he was there
Speaker 4: since he was a kid, had a chance to raise him.
Speaker 4: He was probably there willingly. Now it doesn't look like it.
Speaker 4: It looked like he's actually in a hostage situation. He's
Speaker 4: held against his will. He does not want to be there.
Speaker 1: He is kind of the hostage.
Speaker 6: When he sent them to be the thing when she
Speaker 6: sent them away, it wouldn't well, I guess it was willingly,
Speaker 6: but I think he looking at him as the last
Speaker 6: like air today line, so he really want to teach them.
Speaker 6: They ways versus the Targarian ways, and that's why he
Speaker 6: treating him like you do.
Speaker 1: I didn't see it as hostage.
Speaker 6: I've seen it as more so he look at him
Speaker 6: like a dad or something like that.
Speaker 1: That's how I look at so, like he's learning from him.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmmm. Yeah, I disagree with it's giving.
Speaker 3: Its weird, really weird kind of Celia type situation. I
Speaker 3: don't like you.
Speaker 1: It's because it's because I how ormon looking.
Speaker 3: I don't like he's staying like he was right there
Speaker 3: in the bathtubs. Its just if I feel off.
Speaker 7: I didn't get Peto from I didn't get peto from him.
Speaker 7: But I definitely don't get that he's just trying to
Speaker 7: train the kid up so he can take over the
Speaker 7: throne and be a good ruler. I get that he's
Speaker 7: training him up and grooming him so he could actually
Speaker 7: be the person that's taken over the throne.
Speaker 1: I don't think this or what's his name.
Speaker 7: Name, I don't think that he gives two ships about this.
Speaker 7: He just wants him to be strong enough to take
Speaker 7: the throne so he can manipulate him and be the
Speaker 7: one running, the running the whole thing, just like.
Speaker 1: Just like auto ass. Was that his Yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with that. I agree with that.
Speaker 7: Oh I thought you just thought that he was just
Speaker 7: trying to just rough him up so he would be
Speaker 7: a good leader.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no. I think he's looking at the kid like
Speaker 6: that's his key to power and he's trying to him
Speaker 6: in that sense. Yeah, like you you're Frona do some
Speaker 6: ship mm hm so yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: What was you saying?
Speaker 5: Nay, No, I was asking was that was Otto his uncle?
Speaker 5: Is that the relationship there?
Speaker 2: That's his granddaddy. Ormond is his Uh, that's his uncle?
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think that's his uncle.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I agree with you.
Speaker 2: As far as to lose one, I do think Darren,
Speaker 2: this is the closest of a father figure.
Speaker 1: I think he has so that's why he's listening to him.
Speaker 2: But can to your point, I do think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be that father so betrayal type of shit eventually. But
Speaker 2: Ormand is a is a he living up to that
Speaker 2: high tower like last name, like he reminds me of.
Speaker 2: He's an interesting version of like Otto, where he's younger,
Speaker 2: so obviously he's more ambitious and arrogant, but also he
Speaker 2: got some weird ass.
Speaker 1: Weaknesses that we're gonna get into later.
Speaker 2: We then go to h Turner and her punk ass
Speaker 2: council and she is still trying to figure out what
Speaker 2: Ormond is up to and how she could take him out.
Speaker 2: Uh Nay, what did you think about the black nurse
Speaker 2: getting a promotion?
Speaker 1: This is a rag.
Speaker 3: Crack bunch, bore. I mean, who else is gonna do it?
Speaker 3: And that's really what it's like.
Speaker 5: These are just the niggas that she could get one,
Speaker 5: and the one nigga that she wants is like, I'm out,
Speaker 5: I'm finna go fight. I ain't got time for y'all.
Speaker 5: Like it's blessed so hard. This is this is a sad,
Speaker 5: sorry bunch. The smartest person at the table is a
Speaker 5: woman of the night, like she doesn't been with you,
Speaker 5: Like her.
Speaker 3: Whole motives is just all excuse bless the.
Speaker 2: Heart, hey kid correcting her off as they said, you
Speaker 2: can't trust these holes either.
Speaker 3: Not that one, not that one.
Speaker 2: Damn uh Mike, what did you think about the council?
Speaker 2: And do you think it's getting better now that they
Speaker 2: got these dei hires?
Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna ned. This is this is all she
Speaker 1: got it's pathetic.
Speaker 7: If she had fucking not done what she did to
Speaker 7: my boy last week, then she might have a better crew.
Speaker 7: Maybe Corlis would have stayed and said, okay, I can help,
Speaker 7: because you know, he's.
Speaker 1: Probably the only one there that can offer some maybe not.
Speaker 7: The only one, but one of the more tested and
Speaker 7: seasoned people there. And now he's leaving because you pulled
Speaker 7: some stupid ship. So now you got miss area.
Speaker 1: Yeah think so.
Speaker 7: And the black dude that he really ain't loyal to nobody,
Speaker 7: So she's fucked.
Speaker 1: She got nothing at this point. She's fucked.
Speaker 3: He's loyal to the throne. It just don't matter who's.
Speaker 1: In it, right. That's exactly my point.
Speaker 7: And the thing about it is, if this other crew
Speaker 7: shows up and he sees, oh they're probably gonna win,
Speaker 7: that Negro is gonna bounce. I don't trust him one
Speaker 7: single solitary bit. But I guess that goes from Assaria too.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Now, he can't go nowhere. He's confined
Speaker 1: to that. He's the master of that castle. So whoever
Speaker 1: in charge, he gotta work for them.
Speaker 7: It's just I respect your virginity, Spike, but no.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use that on you. That's not that time
Speaker 1: Star Wars. I'm definitely gonna use it. No, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying he's gonna go hide. He's not.
Speaker 7: I mean, I know he's not a fighter, but he
Speaker 7: he's I don't think he's got any like loyalty to
Speaker 7: anything other than like you said at the castle. So
Speaker 7: if she's gonna lose, he's like, all right, cool, if
Speaker 7: these other people are gonna come in, all right cool.
Speaker 7: So I don't think she should have him on the
Speaker 7: council because he had no he has no reason to
Speaker 7: guide her.
Speaker 1: To win, right, Yeah, that's the problem.
Speaker 6: He got general knowledge though, That's the reason why he
Speaker 6: gonna be on the council, because he talked to the
Speaker 6: other Masons and they know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Right when she told him, right, hey, this place.
Speaker 6: Is here, you should do this, Like just the general knowledge,
Speaker 6: I think he should be there. Who else she gonna get,
Speaker 6: like you said, I like how Callers was.
Speaker 1: Like, bro, who all gonna be there? I ain't. I
Speaker 1: ain't like, I ain't nobody there Here'll think I'm coming
Speaker 1: to this ship, you know who I am? Like for real?
Speaker 6: But uh yeah, her her counsel is weak, I think,
Speaker 6: adding the other dude that we talked about last week,
Speaker 6: that's gonna be interesting. It's the coin guy I like
Speaker 6: the black Mates to do. And reference to what y'all said,
Speaker 6: I think he is going to be a good help
Speaker 6: to her and I think call his son when we.
Speaker 1: Get there too. With part of the council, he gonna
Speaker 1: be good help to her.
Speaker 2: Well, Ken due to the piss poor performance of the
Speaker 2: council were now I got to go back to the
Speaker 2: old faithful the o g again.
Speaker 1: Get inside on what's going on what she can do.
Speaker 2: What do you think about her constantly going to Alison
Speaker 2: for guidance, like literally keeping her prisoner.
Speaker 1: Just to use her.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, they're just having sleepovers seem like
Speaker 4: all the time. But she's all she got, Like she
Speaker 4: knows stuff that happens there and she's a resource, and
Speaker 4: that's why she keeps.
Speaker 1: Going to her.
Speaker 4: Actually, I was looking forward to some of the things
Speaker 4: that Allison may have to share with her, you know,
Speaker 4: when they have a taught because these other guys, they
Speaker 4: definitely are a rag tag bunch for sure. So yeah,
Speaker 4: it's interesting now seeing like what they what she has
Speaker 4: to offer.
Speaker 1: When it comes to advice, Mike.
Speaker 2: Do you think she's fooling herself in the thinking that
Speaker 2: as far as Ranier into thinking that she can regain
Speaker 2: her trust in Allison again. Because I feel like these conversations,
Speaker 2: for as much as she's going towards her, like she's
Speaker 2: building more of an affection towards her, and she's literally
Speaker 2: listening to like everything she says. I feel like she's
Speaker 2: she's trying to rebuild that friendship with her in a
Speaker 2: weird way.
Speaker 1: I'm and maybe you caught something I didn't catch, Nick.
Speaker 1: I didn't get that. All I got was I'm using you.
Speaker 7: I didn't really get that they were friends or that
Speaker 7: she's trying to rebuild the friendship.
Speaker 1: I'm just getting I don't have anybody.
Speaker 7: Else to ask these questions, so I'm gonna hope that
Speaker 7: you're going to tell me the truth. I'm going to
Speaker 7: use you until there's nothing to use anymore. I honestly
Speaker 7: think at this point Vernera had to kill Allison in
Speaker 7: order to gain or maintain the throne, she would kill
Speaker 7: her in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1: I don't think she gives two fucks about Alison. Well.
Speaker 2: The reason why I bring that up is because she
Speaker 2: said she's like you know, I wasn't gonna I wasn't
Speaker 2: I was gonna spare Darren, right like she said it
Speaker 2: at the end, And I felt like she was saying that,
Speaker 2: like listen, but like homegirl, like I wasn't gonna kill
Speaker 2: your son.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna send them away, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like I mean, she did, I believe until
Speaker 1: then in the last episode.
Speaker 7: I think she would have spared him if there was
Speaker 7: no like conflict with it. But if there was a
Speaker 7: situation where she realized, like, Okay, if I don't kill
Speaker 7: this motherfucker, he's a direct threat to what I'm trying
Speaker 7: to do, Yeah, she would have to kill him, just
Speaker 7: like she had to kill all those punk ass I think,
Speaker 7: if anything, I think, what's his face? I always get
Speaker 7: dude's name mixed up? What's the other guy with the dragon?
Speaker 7: The blonde dude that the jacking everybody out, Damon Damon,
Speaker 7: Damon Damon would make her kill him. There's no he
Speaker 7: would kill him or he would kill him exactly exactly.
Speaker 7: So I think she's just saying shit at this point.
Speaker 7: But when it comes down to it, she's gonna have
Speaker 7: to start making hard decisions, and that would be one
Speaker 7: of them.
Speaker 6: I think she's just saying it because that's to your
Speaker 6: earlier point, that's how she got I don't think she
Speaker 6: would kill her because she don't have any other counsel
Speaker 6: other than Alison. Alison giving her the best advice at
Speaker 6: this point before I call his son get there, but
Speaker 6: he given her the best of I mean, Allison has
Speaker 6: given her the best advice. Every time she's went to her,
Speaker 6: she's gotten information from her, she's used it to do something,
Speaker 6: or she's getting new information that she didn't know before and.
Speaker 1: Using it to do something. So yeah, Alison is like
Speaker 1: she need Alison at this point.
Speaker 7: But you think if it came down to either I
Speaker 7: got to kill Allison or I'm going to lose what
Speaker 7: I've gained at this point, you think she should kill her.
Speaker 6: She'll kill her if if this cause her losing the throne, Yes,
Speaker 6: she'll kill her. I'm surprised she was It would be
Speaker 6: a last resort. I think it'd be a last resort.
Speaker 6: She would try everything that she could not to do it.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now I was going on to well, not just about
Speaker 2: Alison's life, but Darren's life.
Speaker 1: What do you think about Allison's reasons for sending.
Speaker 2: Darren away when she was, I guess, kind of doing
Speaker 2: her own confessional to Brenier.
Speaker 5: I thought it was honest, and I think we I
Speaker 5: feel like we'd said this before, like that was probably
Speaker 5: like the best moment of mother and to get him
Speaker 5: the hell away, and her acknowledging that and acknowledging her
Speaker 5: piss for mother skills.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 5: I think I feel differently about this, this relationship between
Speaker 5: the two of them than y'all. Like I don't necessarily
Speaker 5: think that she's trying to rekindle a friendship. I just
Speaker 5: think the friendship is naturally there, and I like the
Speaker 5: layers that they have because is although there is this
Speaker 5: complicated pass between the two of them, Raniera is kind
Speaker 5: of doing the same thing that everybody, all the other
Speaker 5: men have done with Alison, which is just use her
Speaker 5: as a pawn, to think, to get to a higher
Speaker 5: position and to solidify their position in the throne.
Speaker 3: So I think it's interesting that because I do.
Speaker 5: Feel like Raniera has some care for her, which is why,
Speaker 5: and I think they have care for each other, which
Speaker 5: is why Alison does do a little like confiding in
Speaker 5: her and acknowledging what her situation is, and you know
Speaker 5: the fact that, yeah, that's probably the best thing I
Speaker 5: could have done was send him, send him away. So yeah,
Speaker 5: I think it just proved that there is still naturally
Speaker 5: a friendship between the two of them. And I don't
Speaker 5: think she would kill her. I think that she might
Speaker 5: do like she did with the Base the Sun and
Speaker 5: figure out a way to like send her off or
Speaker 5: something without having to actually kill her.
Speaker 2: One another question for you, Nay, And I'm glad you
Speaker 2: brought off your perspective on their relationship because Allison then
Speaker 2: at the end gives her a big I guess, I
Speaker 2: guess secret about Ormond and one of his weaknesses.
Speaker 1: What did you think about this? About his weakness?
Speaker 10: It's weird as hell, Like you have a really sensitive nose,
Speaker 10: like I don't.
Speaker 3: You can't take smells.
Speaker 5: Which might be Bobby with Babon in the middle of
Speaker 5: the thing because he can't stand the stink. I don't know,
Speaker 5: but I think it's one of those weird things that
Speaker 5: could potentially somehow benefit Raniera in the end, like to
Speaker 5: have this like kryptonite of his sense of smell.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, now you think about it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to say this little
Speaker 2: but like maybe that's how she gets him out of
Speaker 2: the area, like she just throws some stink bombs.
Speaker 6: Friend, Just now, I think that was a good line
Speaker 6: in the sense of they doing a Game of Thrones
Speaker 6: thing like hold or like when you watching Game of Thrones,
Speaker 6: you look a little stuff like that, because even earlier
Speaker 6: we talked about him doing the little scent thing and
Speaker 6: we didn't know why he did it, And they've been
Speaker 6: playing this out over a couple of episodes now, so
Speaker 6: I think one million percent it's gonna come into place
Speaker 6: some kind of way, even with the bath, like you said,
Speaker 6: they had the incense burning behind him, like it's his
Speaker 6: nose is so sensitive as to where something's gonna happen
Speaker 6: from this.
Speaker 1: Later on, so we got a two pen sam General
Speaker 1: say something gonna.
Speaker 6: Happen from it. They emphasizing like on it too much.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll see how they do that. We didn't see.
Speaker 2: Lord Corlis is still upset about Rani's decision to not
Speaker 2: legitimates his kids, so he got to go off can
Speaker 2: and fight something because he can't.
Speaker 1: Beat up the queen.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 2: Where were your thoughts on Alan's unexpected promotion.
Speaker 4: It just made what she had even worse because he
Speaker 4: don't know what the hell he's doing, and he don't
Speaker 4: even want the job. You know, he wanted to go
Speaker 4: with his daddy. He just got him. He just got
Speaker 4: his daddy's lady running off again.
Speaker 1: His daddy's serving the country. What you okay? If he's
Speaker 1: gonna make some more bastards, that's what he's about to
Speaker 1: come back with. Three four more of these.
Speaker 4: One of these work, like legitimate is one of these.
Speaker 4: They're young enough, but but yeah, he hot man, He's
Speaker 4: still mad. Carlos is still mad, and he don't want
Speaker 4: to even be around. He don't want to look at it.
Speaker 4: He don't want to spell her. He don't want anything
Speaker 4: to do with Renera and Queans Landon. So he just
Speaker 4: gonnae it up and leave before he does say something.
Speaker 1: He rapped. That's a smart man, lud.
Speaker 2: I think you said and you said this like you
Speaker 2: think that Alan is going to be He may actually
Speaker 2: be good for the job, he may actually step up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think the Corley's position in this is like, all right,
Speaker 6: you don't want to legitimize him, then let me give
Speaker 6: him my seat doing doing some nigga shit, Like, he
Speaker 6: can't do that.
Speaker 1: Probably he can't just be like.
Speaker 6: You just go sit in for me, but he did
Speaker 6: it anyway, and I'm hope I'm thinking that he hopes
Speaker 6: that that gets his son closer to her in there,
Speaker 6: because he views him as kind of smart. Maybe he'll
Speaker 6: give us some good advice and then maybe she's more
Speaker 6: likely to be like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will give him the last.
Speaker 6: Name that she wanted to or whatever, because I mean,
Speaker 6: he made a couple of suggestions to her during this episode,
Speaker 6: even when he was like in the physical vicinity of
Speaker 6: her about the rats and shit. So I think that
Speaker 6: he thinks that this is a power move his son. Mike,
Speaker 6: you mean to tell me no one a thought to
Speaker 6: getting cats?
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 7: I'm just I'm just looking at it, like, of course
Speaker 7: the broke ass Negro is gonna know how to get
Speaker 7: rid of rats.
Speaker 1: That's not like some kind of like deep knowledge type ship.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to remember what Alan said that was like
Speaker 7: value the carry out raps and cats.
Speaker 1: Small stuff like this is a small stuff. Man, your
Speaker 1: chair up by.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: I don't know, y'all.
Speaker 7: I kind of wonder if Corlis is setting him up
Speaker 7: for failure because he knows he don't know what the
Speaker 7: fuck he's doing. So I'm I'm fuzzy on what Corlis
Speaker 7: is doing right now. I don't know if he's doing
Speaker 7: this to help his son get closer to Ranera, or
Speaker 7: if he's like, oh, you know, you came over here
Speaker 7: to deliver the message, so you go fucking deal with it.
Speaker 1: I'm not dealing with I'm leaving.
Speaker 7: Or if he's like, Okay, you think I'm not fucking useful, Okay,
Speaker 7: you don't fucking talked to my dumb.
Speaker 1: Ass son that don't know Ship about nothing except for Rats.
Speaker 1: It was something else. I think he did this episode.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was.
Speaker 7: It was like, it was cool, But I don't think
Speaker 7: he's I don't think he's shown anything that I can
Speaker 7: remember at least that makes me think.
Speaker 1: That he's good for this job. It was applying so
Speaker 1: he got his CDL license.
Speaker 3: You know Rats.
Speaker 1: It's been implied that he's a good leader and stuff.
Speaker 6: Though that's the whole reason that callers in the truck.
Speaker 6: But I mean, it's better than word ran Ner got ship.
Speaker 6: She may is working the best truck dripping you your dude, and.
Speaker 1: That ain't saying much, little man.
Speaker 6: That's what Carlers is telling me, Like, man, I don't
Speaker 6: need this rag tail.
Speaker 1: I'm a boss. I ain't been sitting here with y'all
Speaker 1: like I don't sit my son in there. He tried trucks.
Speaker 1: I talked to him. Maybe he can help you all out. Now,
Speaker 1: you gotta faith in Alan.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't have no faith in him. He's way out
Speaker 5: of his league. That's why he and he know he
Speaker 5: out of his league. So he's just sitting there quiet
Speaker 5: like like you do with you and in the rooms
Speaker 5: and intimidate you. He's just gonna sit down and shut
Speaker 5: up and tell on the side, maybe get some cats.
Speaker 5: And I think Corlis is fucked up for it was
Speaker 5: some nigga ship that he did. He don't feel like
Speaker 5: dealing with it. And then he trying to suspend it
Speaker 5: like he's doing something for you. Look, if I can't
Speaker 5: give you my name, the least I can do is
Speaker 5: give you an opportunity.
Speaker 3: Nigga opportunity to do. But I can't to look stupid.
Speaker 6: It's so messed up, showing queen queensbody.
Speaker 1: I can't name.
Speaker 5: Hustle ass line like, look, I'm gonna give you a
Speaker 5: spot right here by the by the main.
Speaker 3: Bitch you at you got an opportunity to get in here.
Speaker 6: You got any of my blood and you slick like
Speaker 6: I am if you you got any of my blood
Speaker 6: in you, and you slick, and you can talk like
Speaker 6: I can't.
Speaker 1: Man in this room talk talk like Corlis shows like
Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing. He's action. I'm with nay
Speaker 1: on this.
Speaker 7: He sent that fool in there to sit right next
Speaker 7: to the woman that won't even give him a fucking
Speaker 7: name and talk, give her some advice that's dirtiest, and
Speaker 7: then I'm gonna leave.
Speaker 5: And then here's the thing. If he does actually cite
Speaker 5: something of some value and he does get some sort
Speaker 5: of cloud off of this, corl.
Speaker 3: Is gonna be like, yeah, I did that, He.
Speaker 1: Really did it.
Speaker 3: You can not equit for this role. I had to
Speaker 3: make something out of enough.
Speaker 2: Name, especially like there's two ways the thing that won,
Speaker 2: Like as a parent, you always are are willing to
Speaker 2: put your children in a position to win, like the
Speaker 2: position that he is not equipped for. But but you
Speaker 2: that's because he sees the characteristicsm and his son that
Speaker 2: his son doesn't see him himself. I think he's his son.
Speaker 2: Always underplays what his role is and how good to
Speaker 2: be of a leader is or how smart he is.
Speaker 2: And the other thing is, nay, would you rather have
Speaker 2: five hundred thousand dollars or a dinner with her near?
Speaker 1: That's what it's.
Speaker 8: That's what, that's what hellar the biggest ain't nobody what nigga?
Speaker 1: Do you know what sitting with the.
Speaker 2: Queen except for the other goofy ass nigga who get
Speaker 2: his head chopped off.
Speaker 5: So Alan been saying since last season he wanted the
Speaker 5: five hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: He been saying, just.
Speaker 3: Give me some name and some money.
Speaker 5: That's all I want, don't. I don't care about this ship.
Speaker 5: I want to stay on my boat. Just give me
Speaker 5: some money, give me some give me the five hundred thousand, and.
Speaker 3: The nigga gave him a dinner reservation. Anyway.
Speaker 2: We'll get back to that relationship later. But we did
Speaker 2: see Agon and Lord Larry's find some fire's corpse, which
Speaker 2: a god mourns. But they then had to reach Rook's Rest,
Speaker 2: which is now overrun with refue geez and basically nigga.
Speaker 1: They just and I required to.
Speaker 2: Clean uh t and ship may What did you think
Speaker 2: about agon sing with his falling dragon?
Speaker 1: Roder really thought that nigga was gonna wake up. He
Speaker 1: was acting so.
Speaker 3: He was like then he was like, noy, I know
Speaker 3: that dragon ain't gonna wake up. And I was like, no,
Speaker 3: this nigga is losing it. He's lost it. He's crazy,
Speaker 3: he's he's he's off, y'all.
Speaker 7: Thought the dragon was coming to life, to the dragon,
Speaker 7: gonna wake up, Rod, I think that dragon's gonna wake the.
Speaker 6: Dragon gonna wake up. I would have did that that
Speaker 6: long if he wouldn't go up the dragon, I did.
Speaker 2: Because like the way he's dragon righted the target. They
Speaker 2: close with the dragons. They don't know if they don't
Speaker 2: know nothing else, they know they dragon.
Speaker 1: And the nigga was like with them. He was like, hey, baby,
Speaker 1: I know you're still with me. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Like the dragon I did?
Speaker 12: Yeah, what's doing he's sleeping like the co or some
Speaker 12: ship got up? Yeah, he got sucked up youth for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. How long has he been burnt up?
Speaker 11: Y'all?
Speaker 1: I don't think it's been that long. It's been that long. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been a few months. It's probably been a few months.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if we could say much. Probably
Speaker 1: been made for a month and a half.
Speaker 3: But the dragon is hibernating, is what I'm more than
Speaker 3: like coma.
Speaker 1: It's like in a coma or something like that.
Speaker 5: But I think it's more than likely that the dragon
Speaker 5: is hibernating than Agon is just bad ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, both, I think it's both. I think it's both.
Speaker 1: Two things can be true. But that dragon, the.
Speaker 3: Flies flying around the dragon, y'all didn't see that?
Speaker 1: People think now then people think the people that are
Speaker 1: around them stink.
Speaker 3: That's the fly all the dragons, make sure. Flies on
Speaker 3: the dragon.
Speaker 1: Probably came when Agon showed up. What the dude that
Speaker 1: was asking him for pennies to touch?
Speaker 2: That dud dude that was asking, hey, hey, God came
Speaker 2: in the wake up though, Hey God came in his
Speaker 2: burnt skin and stay flushed, looking like pork belly, and.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody in the whole village over there smelled
Speaker 1: like straight and all that that's probably water.
Speaker 7: Dragon is still sleep He's like thinking, what's the point
Speaker 7: of me getting up right now? Like he probably passed
Speaker 7: out every time about to wake up.
Speaker 1: Home. But But speaking of that, because we uh, when
Speaker 1: we get to Richpress, we see the.
Speaker 2: We see the dragon that died from those of the
Speaker 2: queen that got fired and ship her dragon when.
Speaker 1: He sleep too. They ship could bob that mom. Would
Speaker 1: you eat dragging meat? Why?
Speaker 6: God, that's a good point back then. I'm sure I
Speaker 6: don't know why they wasn't cutting that motherfucker up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, okay, I thought they thought that was it.
Speaker 1: Maybe I imagine that I may have just missed that.
Speaker 6: No, I may have just missed it because I didn't
Speaker 6: see it, but I may have just missed it. But yeah,
Speaker 6: I would It looked like they It looked like they were.
Speaker 3: Eating like alligator, right little gator me.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it tastes like chicken grill.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe a brisket, you know, saying if
Speaker 2: we're lucky. But I was thinking about that because I
Speaker 2: saw how I was cut up. I was like, they
Speaker 2: eating that motherfucker. I don't even know if it's poisoned. Well,
Speaker 2: they probably don't care. They starting I'll tell you what.
Speaker 6: I did like in this scene though, besides him with
Speaker 6: the dragon, they show how vulnerable them too are, Like
Speaker 6: you got too crippled, no good motherfuckers out in the road,
Speaker 6: like anybody can get y'all, y'alledge trump all the chump
Speaker 6: cheese out here.
Speaker 1: In these streets, bro, like anybody can get y'all. Y'all
Speaker 1: got a home. People don't look at y'all see you
Speaker 1: living with that foot And he the dude like, hell,
Speaker 1: now we got to get them.
Speaker 3: He got some money from him too, called.
Speaker 1: He almost got him.
Speaker 4: Remember, they had to.
Speaker 6: Cut away from it because it ain't no way they
Speaker 6: would have got out of that, and really it would
Speaker 6: have them. They cut away from that because they couldn't
Speaker 6: explain them getting out of it.
Speaker 1: Dude was then to fuck them up here.
Speaker 4: I thought they would have taken all their money. That's
Speaker 4: why he would have got him up from that damn dragon.
Speaker 4: He said, you need to get your little crazy ass
Speaker 4: up right now.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that was.
Speaker 2: That was my question because it was like how patient
Speaker 2: will oh you know, no, I'm listening, I'm saying, like,
Speaker 2: how patient do you think Lord Larri's will be with
Speaker 2: a guy based on how he was acting, because even
Speaker 2: after like he was obviously he had to give people
Speaker 2: to pay him all so he can cry with his
Speaker 2: dragon and then he over here talking shit as soon
Speaker 2: as they walk in the village.
Speaker 5: I mean, he don't really have too much of a
Speaker 5: choice but to be patient right now. And I think
Speaker 5: he's smart enough to know that, because if he don't
Speaker 5: be patient with him and figure out how to handle him,
Speaker 5: he's gonna get him killed, which he did almost.
Speaker 3: Did several times.
Speaker 5: But what I think is gonna end up happening is
Speaker 5: Lyric is gonna realize that I can't control him, and
Speaker 5: he's gonna have to figure out a way to like
Speaker 5: get him handled.
Speaker 1: Would you thinking the same thing, Mike, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I mean, I guess it's been so long, I don't
Speaker 7: remember honestly, what their plan even is is their plan
Speaker 7: to just hide until everything else is done and then
Speaker 7: come back out later.
Speaker 5: They were trying to get to Rook's rest because because
Speaker 5: that's where he thought, what's his name, Christoph what's his name?
Speaker 3: He thought Christian Cole was gonna be your Brooks rest
Speaker 3: because that's weren't they there?
Speaker 1: And then they left they went to Aaron Hall. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so that that's that was.
Speaker 3: The plan because that's where he thought that they were.
Speaker 2: So what's the plan now just to they don't have one.
Speaker 2: I think he said he was going to get a
Speaker 2: boat and they was gonna go somewhere trying to find.
Speaker 4: The Uh, they probably would have made it in both
Speaker 4: their feet work right, they limping around the thing.
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask strong he was?
Speaker 4: He was?
Speaker 1: He could bear the king.
Speaker 5: He could barely walk when they were in the when
Speaker 5: they were in the buggy, and then he was like,
Speaker 5: where's my poppy?
Speaker 3: And he was like, what happened?
Speaker 6: He stopped doing the milk of the poppy, so he
Speaker 6: getting his strength back. Oh, he ain't had none of
Speaker 6: the drugs in a long time. That's why family jogging
Speaker 6: through these woods?
Speaker 1: What's going on? The plan? Laws?
Speaker 6: Lawrence left foot had another plan would have got them
Speaker 6: out of there because they were supposed to be headed somewhere.
Speaker 6: And Mike that they could have got to a ship
Speaker 6: without running into all these people. So now they're going
Speaker 6: by the King's playing where he tried to meet Kristen
Speaker 6: Cole and Lawrence still trying to get them to a ship.
Speaker 7: Oh lord, yeah, I mean, I think Larry's is gonna
Speaker 7: stick with him because what else does he have going on?
Speaker 1: Going on? Nobody else was really fucking with him like that,
Speaker 1: you know, so when.
Speaker 6: He could go back to King's Land and to be like,
Speaker 6: I gave y'all auto like y'all know, I fuck with y'all.
Speaker 6: They just had me under the wrist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he took the He can't go back to
Speaker 1: King's Land and they will kill him. He can say
Speaker 1: I gave y'all honor. That's what the whole otto play.
Speaker 6: Was, because remember when he took him back up to
Speaker 6: the kings, he was like, Lawren's left the gift for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he took the king away, and they know that.
Speaker 1: Nobody know that. I thought he can lie. They know
Speaker 1: that that he can't lie. They know that he took
Speaker 1: the king away.
Speaker 7: So if he comes back without the King's gonna kill
Speaker 7: his ass.
Speaker 1: He did, he died, no funk that she's nah. I
Speaker 1: don't think she's gonna.
Speaker 3: I don't know what he died, Hilarius, who knows that.
Speaker 6: I just sworn someone say when they they said both
Speaker 6: of them was missing, yeah, both of them was missing.
Speaker 1: The king made Yeah, I think it was the little
Speaker 1: aheaded black dude. He said it. Yeah, he say he
Speaker 1: like they said though he forced me man I can't
Speaker 1: force you with what one We ain't on foot neither.
Speaker 4: Nah.
Speaker 7: She's not gonna well welcome him back with open arms.
Speaker 7: She's going if he comes back, you're like, we throw.
Speaker 1: Him in a dungeon or some ship. She's not going
Speaker 1: to invite him back and let you talk to the crew.
Speaker 1: You're right, I agree with that, But I think he
Speaker 1: could talk his way back into graces. I'd be interesting
Speaker 1: to see how that would work him.
Speaker 2: Ken, what did you think about Agon doing the work
Speaker 2: of common folk when he got to you know, clean
Speaker 2: toilets and pits buckets.
Speaker 4: I think Agon knew he didn't want to do that,
Speaker 4: which is why he kept saying he.
Speaker 1: Could read, and I can read just like him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Agon forgets his place.
Speaker 4: He continuously forget that he is not sitting on the throne,
Speaker 4: and he always talking ship to people over and over
Speaker 4: and over again. And I'm really wondering how this will
Speaker 4: impact him.
Speaker 1: Should he make it back.
Speaker 4: And get back on the throne, will he resent common
Speaker 4: folk or will he come back for some type of
Speaker 4: revenge or something like that. He definitely going back to
Speaker 4: see that. Jane's dude, like it's over for him. It's
Speaker 4: a done Deel for him. He's gonna remember him after.
Speaker 2: The White Boy kids in Yeah, I was gonna ask
Speaker 2: you about that, like that was, yeah, that was I
Speaker 2: didn't expect all that ship to be on this foot,
Speaker 2: but it makes sense.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, they slowed it down, Mike. It
Speaker 1: was like, all right, nigga, get to it. That was terrible.
Speaker 1: He was mining was show enough. He's not getting back
Speaker 1: on the throne though, I don't see that happening.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe because I feel like I don't
Speaker 2: know if y'all felt the same way about this, but
Speaker 2: I feel like he's having a Jamie Lanister kind of
Speaker 2: like redemption arc, where like he got to go through
Speaker 2: all like he was a piece of ship and then
Speaker 2: now he's we're sing we're seeing, we're seeing him be
Speaker 2: humbled like once he fell from the dragon. He kissing
Speaker 2: motherfucker's shitty boots, like Jamie got his hand cut off,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like I feel like they're
Speaker 2: doing like they're showing us.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, Like as Jamie was prisoner
Speaker 6: and they were taking him back even before they got
Speaker 6: his hand cut off, they was putting him through shit.
Speaker 1: They had him like I see, I see the parallel.
Speaker 1: I see what she's saying.
Speaker 4: So he would have more compassion when he gets back
Speaker 4: on the throne. Is that's what from us.
Speaker 1: As viewers, I believe, not necessarily the people.
Speaker 2: Not not compassion in the show, but just more so,
Speaker 2: like he knows what it takes to be a better like,
Speaker 2: he has to be a little bit more smarter. It
Speaker 2: has to be more cunning yesterday, like he sees how
Speaker 2: everything went wrong with him because he was just so
Speaker 2: goofy and he didn't.
Speaker 1: Care about everybody else but himself.
Speaker 2: And now he's getting the more sense of what the
Speaker 2: world is like, and I think that's gonna give him
Speaker 2: a better like strategic mind to be king. Not saying
Speaker 2: that's gonna make him a better person, just makes him
Speaker 2: smarter because he'd been humble.
Speaker 6: I don't get the opportunity. I get what Nick is saying.
Speaker 6: I just don't know if he gets the opportunity. I
Speaker 6: don't know if he getting back on the throne.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see it. Oh sorry, go ahead,
Speaker 1: and man, I'm sorry now.
Speaker 10: I was just gonna say I think it's gonna be
Speaker 10: more like a seriously arc where he goes out bad
Speaker 10: because he is bad.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would rather see that because, like we already
Speaker 7: saw the Jamie Lanister arc. I feel like this would
Speaker 7: be not I don't want to say bad writing, but
Speaker 7: it's like we just we just saw this and it
Speaker 7: would be very very very predictable. I would almost be
Speaker 7: more interested in seeing him just be worse when he
Speaker 7: comes back, because he had to kiss somebody's foot, because
Speaker 7: he had to clean shit, and because he got his
Speaker 7: face off fucked up. He was a little pretty white boy.
Speaker 7: Now he's all fucked up like Freddy Krueger. So I
Speaker 7: would rather see him come back and just want to
Speaker 7: fucking wreak havoc. I don't need another good guy redemption arc.
Speaker 1: Don't. It's like I feel you on that.
Speaker 2: We didn see Lord Commander Chris Cole find his way
Speaker 2: to Hearing Hall, but he finds out that ain't nothing
Speaker 2: there but the Witch, which was bad news.
Speaker 1: Look what did you think about the conversation they had
Speaker 1: with the witch when.
Speaker 13: She was like, oh, you ain't knowing about old girl
Speaker 13: back on the top. Like this was so good because
Speaker 13: they went in that looking for the smoke, that all
Speaker 13: of them was looking.
Speaker 6: For the smoke and thought people was there and thought
Speaker 6: these things gonna happen and they run into the witch
Speaker 6: like you said, and she's like, oh, y'all didn't know.
Speaker 1: Like it's over with for y'all. Y'all, y'all queen gone,
Speaker 1: like its excuse me, y'all, King Goll's done.
Speaker 6: And I like how the other guy, the hot tie
Speaker 6: with guy I think he is U g Wayne telling Yeah,
Speaker 6: he was telling Christian Cole like brush a rap and
Speaker 6: christ and Cole on this whole No, we can do
Speaker 6: this and fight like, Bro, I ain't nobody trying to
Speaker 6: hear that.
Speaker 1: She don't care where you came from, and you ain't
Speaker 1: got nobody to go back to.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 6: I do got people to go back to you, and
Speaker 6: a lot of people out there don't care nothing about
Speaker 6: what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I'm finna sitting this raven and then we done with you.
Speaker 1: Sound crazy right now? Hey?
Speaker 2: This is why I like these reviews, because y'all give
Speaker 2: me a perspective I was thinking about because for me,
Speaker 2: the question I was gonna ask you and they was like,
Speaker 2: what do you think is like going on with Chris
Speaker 2: and his mindset as far as like how he views himself,
Speaker 2: how you talk about himself? Like he's in a weird
Speaker 2: place because I don't really understand how he was. What
Speaker 2: he was saying led to what he wanted to do.
Speaker 2: But to lose point, I don't think it matters because
Speaker 2: it's like thinking, you ain't You ain't really important anyway, You.
Speaker 10: Ain't Just like, look, I ain't got else, So I'm
Speaker 10: gonnadopt for this ship. I mean, that's that's the only
Speaker 10: thing he got, his his loyalty to the crown, like
Speaker 10: to the point where he's giving up all his other
Speaker 10: moral moral code and moral standards.
Speaker 3: So I mean, what else he gonna do. Let's go
Speaker 3: out there like guns blazing and I die.
Speaker 1: For the ship.
Speaker 3: And g Wayne is like, is this nigger name really
Speaker 3: g Wayne?
Speaker 1: What is his name for? Wayne? I'd rather say, no,
Speaker 1: I'm royalty.
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: So, Mike, did you like your strategy?
Speaker 7: No, you're talking about Kristin. I can't stand his little
Speaker 7: whole ass. I cannot stand him. I'm gonna clap when
Speaker 7: he fucking dies. But now he's being he's being stupid.
Speaker 1: He's just like, oh, well, let's just go surprise attack.
Speaker 6: Lem got more men? I know they got more men,
Speaker 6: and they got the advantage. But let's let's walk upon them.
Speaker 1: Let's just sneak up on him and just get him
Speaker 1: by some bies. Are you crazy?
Speaker 3: Mike?
Speaker 1: He was like, he was like, hey, come here real quick,
Speaker 1: let's just sneak a technic like like, hey, buddy, like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm rich. I got a whole ship back at the crib.
Speaker 1: Like nigga, No, why are you doing that? Just because
Speaker 1: you ain't got no girl or no family or nothing
Speaker 1: else like that.
Speaker 7: You think I'm gonna go do this. You don't even
Speaker 7: have a dragon or nothing cool. You just a dude
Speaker 7: in a suit. I'm leaving, And how is he gonna come?
Speaker 7: I mean, I guess if he tells the soldiers, they
Speaker 7: would kind of have to do it. Yeah, he's the
Speaker 7: little commander, but.
Speaker 1: The g wayne guy. If he's just like, look, I'm
Speaker 1: taking my.
Speaker 7: Men and I'm leaving, that's the smartest move for him
Speaker 7: right now, y'all lost, take your men and go the
Speaker 7: fuck home.
Speaker 1: Kristin Cole is crazy. Now, maybe he's.
Speaker 7: Gonna go fuck with that witch and see what happens there.
Speaker 7: But I don't even see why she would have any
Speaker 7: interest in him.
Speaker 1: He's got no power.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, what was your thoughts on Christan
Speaker 2: g Wayne's conversation?
Speaker 4: If anything, he may ends up linking up with Ama
Speaker 4: at some point and that will give him some more leverage.
Speaker 4: That's the only thing he has left, and it's up
Speaker 4: to the Witch to reveal that he's there, you know.
Speaker 4: But Christian Cole's you know, he's just like, man, everybody
Speaker 4: leaves me, you know, and here we are again, and
Speaker 4: I got nothing, so I have nothing else but this.
Speaker 1: So like he's cry baby y'all, Like that sounds like
Speaker 1: a U problem. You walking around emo and depressed, Like
Speaker 1: nobody want to hear this. On Drake Ship, he definitely
Speaker 1: listening to Drake on the horse. He also he's that
Speaker 1: cover that that take Care cover with the little goblet
Speaker 1: that Drake is sitting there.
Speaker 9: That's what he looked like in this episode. Actually you
Speaker 9: put Drake in some chainmail. That's he's gonna ask Nick.
Speaker 9: But what y'all think about what she said about where
Speaker 9: Aiming was at?
Speaker 1: What did she say? She said, I don't know where
Speaker 1: she was Just like he's line in her bed, nigga, right,
Speaker 1: he just got broke off. You ain't never seen a
Speaker 1: woman lying about what nigga she got in her room?
Speaker 1: Don't you have to fight up?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I haven't. I forgot lit indestructible in the streets he defeated.
Speaker 1: I forgot trapped in the closet. Bro. Yeah, yeah, she's
Speaker 1: definitely lyes.
Speaker 7: That was actually interesting that she that she did that
Speaker 7: because I'm I thought we were gonna find out more
Speaker 7: about what happened to him in this episode.
Speaker 1: But Dragon, according to what he's like that dragon right now,
Speaker 1: he hibernatd. I don't think his stab was real though,
Speaker 1: I don't think it established wrong. He was leaking nigga.
Speaker 6: He's somewhere chilling nunder one of her spells. I don't
Speaker 6: know where as dragon at. That's why, because they checked
Speaker 6: the dragons.
Speaker 1: He was stabs fight. Yeah, but he wasn't leaking like
Speaker 1: it it was.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 1: It was a little regular stab, but he was stabbed
Speaker 1: between like his lungs and the like. He was establishing that.
Speaker 6: She gonna fer you, She's gonna fix Yes, yeah, she's
Speaker 6: gonna all I'm saying to gotcha.
Speaker 1: Okay, But I do wonder where they put the dragon,
Speaker 1: because how could I wondering?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 7: I forget the fucking dragon's name. What's Damon's dragon's name? Corraxis,
Speaker 7: how come smell step sheep stealer?
Speaker 1: But because he's a wow dragon, so he smelled different
Speaker 1: like a hopeless dragon.
Speaker 6: Look at his rider, Look at the riders. Yeah, like
Speaker 6: the wild dragons and the riders they stink. So that's
Speaker 6: probably why he picked up on. They sent more so
Speaker 6: than the other dragon. But that's but also too, that
Speaker 6: makes me wonder to your point, I don't know how
Speaker 6: close the dragon is because it seemed like they would
Speaker 6: have been able to tell if a dragon was around somewhere.
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying, Like all jokes aside, if it
Speaker 7: really does boil down to oh, he just smelled the
Speaker 7: other dragon because it's a wild dragon.
Speaker 1: That's kind of whack, Like.
Speaker 7: If I took it at this is like a dog,
Speaker 7: and you know how dogs always smell the dogs and
Speaker 7: they start if the other dragon is there. It really
Speaker 7: wouldn't make a whole lot of sense that Carraxis didn't
Speaker 7: sense the other dragon, but it sensed cheap stealer who
Speaker 7: was down the road.
Speaker 1: There were in two different places.
Speaker 7: They wanted the white lady with the I'm mixing up.
Speaker 7: You're right, you're right, I'm mixing up wrong, wrong, white lady. Right,
Speaker 7: I'm sorry they look like them.
Speaker 1: No they don't. I can see why you say that,
Speaker 1: but I ain't. I'll move on.
Speaker 2: My only thing with My only thing with the Witch
Speaker 2: was that she no one really like pressed down on
Speaker 2: what she was saying. She came out of nowhere a kid.
Speaker 2: It was just like, oh, yeah, he ain't here, by
Speaker 2: the way, you uh, the old girl took over the sheet,
Speaker 2: so go do something else. And I was just like,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna question her. It's gonna be like, all right,
Speaker 2: the dragon ain't here. He and here while we're here.
Speaker 1: It was just like y'all be letting the Witch tell
Speaker 1: y'all anything but moving on.
Speaker 2: We didn't see Alan go meet up with Niera and
Speaker 2: tell her that he'll be taking over for his father's spot.
Speaker 2: We kind of touched on this earlier, but ny I
Speaker 2: wanted to get your thoughts about what Renera had said
Speaker 2: about fathers.
Speaker 1: She was like, fathers can she said something, lou do
Speaker 1: you remember the line? She was like, they could impact
Speaker 1: you and entice you something like that.
Speaker 2: It was like something interesting that there was a line
Speaker 2: and It was basically her conversation with Alan about like
Speaker 2: how fathers can kind of help you but also hurt
Speaker 2: you as well.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was a good perspective, because you.
Speaker 2: Know, she keep on talking about her daddy and like
Speaker 2: the nigga he was, but everybody else be saying like
Speaker 2: he wasn't that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I do agree. I think that I thought
Speaker 3: it was impacted.
Speaker 5: I don't remember exactly what he said what she said either,
Speaker 5: but I do think it was impactful. And I think
Speaker 5: that it is interesting how like you have like these
Speaker 5: generations at this pain right and you've.
Speaker 3: Got out is it Adam or is he Al?
Speaker 1: He's Alan?
Speaker 3: He's Alan.
Speaker 5: You got Alan and Ranera who are both there because
Speaker 5: of their relationships with their fathers, and Ranera having a
Speaker 5: closer relationship than Adam does, and how that has now
Speaker 5: influenced them.
Speaker 3: I think that is interesting and may.
Speaker 5: Allow an opportunity for Alan to actually be able to
Speaker 5: bond with Ranera and create some good sort of camaraderie,
Speaker 5: and maybe that might be his end to solidify the
Speaker 5: position that his daddy gave.
Speaker 4: He still ain't gonna get that name, bron Mike get
Speaker 4: you might have some good advice at some point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she'll give I think she'll give him
Speaker 2: the name once like he didn't like two good two
Speaker 2: three good ideas.
Speaker 1: But I think you proved real word. Here's your name.
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen?
Speaker 7: Alison's going to change her mind about what's going on.
Speaker 7: And Allison is going to tell him, Look, I gave
Speaker 7: you the name.
Speaker 1: I gave you the name. Just get this, get this
Speaker 1: chick out of here. Mm hmm. I think that. I
Speaker 1: think I said this before.
Speaker 7: I think all of them are going to turn on her,
Speaker 7: including Alan Adam Corlis. All of them are going to
Speaker 7: turn on her. Yeah, they have no reason to be
Speaker 7: loyal to her. She hasn't done ship for them at
Speaker 7: this point. Uh oh, I hope they didn't hear that.
Speaker 7: They haven't done anything for them, so why would they
Speaker 7: be loyal to her?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna start dragons. What wait, what did y'all
Speaker 6: say dragons? I got to dragons? Y'all got to be
Speaker 6: little to me. That's the whole premise to they takeover.
Speaker 6: But they got more dragons, do they?
Speaker 7: Because if if, if, if all of them turn on her,
Speaker 7: who who like out of all the people that that
Speaker 7: she has that have dragons, how many of them are
Speaker 7: actually loyal to her? Everybody else is only doing it
Speaker 7: opportunity baylay.
Speaker 3: Girlfriend.
Speaker 6: Nah you well, remember there was beef and walking through
Speaker 6: the tunnel though, right, there was beefing walking through the Yeah.
Speaker 5: She's mad at her because she got a sign killed,
Speaker 5: but that's Damon's daughter. At the end of the day,
Speaker 5: she ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1: Have two.
Speaker 7: That's two because she got people loyal to her, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying that stuff, right, But then you got.
Speaker 1: Whatever his name is that that that has his wife
Speaker 1: in the city, the hammer, that's his name? And who else?
Speaker 1: Isn't there a third one?
Speaker 7: If they leave, that's three on three And if they
Speaker 7: joined the other side, then't they outnumber Ranera. Nara should
Speaker 7: be thinking about this type of ship, but she over here. Bullshit,
Speaker 7: that's why they call you the Queen of the basket.
Speaker 7: She should have been like, Dan, you know what, fucking
Speaker 7: let me just embrace this ship. Sure to legitimize all
Speaker 7: the bastards better off hit.
Speaker 1: The eminem is taking on your own insults from uh yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If she pop a doctor whole ship, she would be
Speaker 1: a lot better off. We then head back to Tumble, Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Hughes wife and his brother's family get harassed by Ormond's
Speaker 2: army man.
Speaker 1: King.
Speaker 2: What is your think of the scene when the army
Speaker 2: man was, yeah, getting too handsy with Hugh's wife.
Speaker 4: Well, they set it up in the beginning, so you
Speaker 4: knew it was it was inevitable that he was going
Speaker 4: to make some sort of move because he felt entitled.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know he said that if you have
Speaker 1: an issue with it, take it up to take it
Speaker 1: up with with Ormond.
Speaker 4: Is he probably didn't think that that was gonna happen,
Speaker 4: or they will be brave enough to do such a thing,
Speaker 4: And for the most part, they didn't until that happened.
Speaker 4: So he felt like he couldn't be touched and he
Speaker 4: was in a position of power and privilege and he
Speaker 4: found out.
Speaker 1: That he wasn't. I'm glad that it didn't go that far.
Speaker 1: And you know, old Boy.
Speaker 4: Came to the rescue and he, you know, defended you know,
Speaker 4: the woman as best he could, you know, by smacking
Speaker 4: him or trying to fight and break up the whole thing.
Speaker 1: But these guys were.
Speaker 4: Ruthless, and you know, this is the sort of stuff
Speaker 4: that happens in war, you know, breaking the arm and
Speaker 4: stuff like that. You know, but at least they didn't
Speaker 4: take it all the way there, so I'm thankful for that.
Speaker 1: Were you surprised about how Ormond reacted to this incident?
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 4: I liked that he did it because Ormon seems like
Speaker 4: he's about order and projecting sense of order.
Speaker 1: So if he wants the people to look and view
Speaker 1: at him in a certain kind.
Speaker 4: Of way, then he had to show that he will
Speaker 4: not allow this sort of disconducted, disobedient disobedience with his army.
Speaker 4: So a message was sent using this guy by castrating
Speaker 4: him and then breaking his arm. The sort of religious
Speaker 4: sort of eye for an eye thing that took place
Speaker 4: that happens in certain religions.
Speaker 1: So I was.
Speaker 4: I think, in terms of the public viewing and stuff
Speaker 4: like that, for the moment, it looked good, and you know,
Speaker 4: I think they'll look at him and like with a
Speaker 4: different sort of eye and we'll see how long it lasts.
Speaker 1: But no, I wasn't surprised that he that he did it.
Speaker 4: Room he told he told him that, he told him
Speaker 4: that look, they'll be fine. They shouldn't do anything to you. Guys,
Speaker 4: and if it happens you, you know, let me know
Speaker 4: and I'll handle it.
Speaker 7: Was I surprised that he acted like that, No, because
Speaker 7: he seems like I was more surprised by the end,
Speaker 7: but we'll get there. I was not surprised when he
Speaker 7: was like, oh, you tried to assault her. Cool, I'm
Speaker 7: gonna cut your dick off and I'm gonna break your
Speaker 7: arm because this is what you did to two women.
Speaker 7: I actually thought that was cool, like that made him
Speaker 7: a more interesting villain to me. I did hear to
Speaker 7: cut your dick off? He said, you'll be gelded. I
Speaker 7: had to look it up because I assumed that.
Speaker 1: That's what that meant. I thought that was like getting
Speaker 1: text like you like he was bugging out of the way,
Speaker 1: he was crying.
Speaker 7: I thought either he was going to get his dick
Speaker 7: cut off or they were going to actually, you know,
Speaker 7: sexually assault him. I thought it was one of those
Speaker 7: two things. So I looked it up and it's that's
Speaker 7: what you caught off a horse's dick.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought he was kind because they was gonna
Speaker 1: break his arm. But that makes sense Tony, because he was.
Speaker 6: Like my wife, right right, I agree with Mike, it
Speaker 6: added depth to the character, or just especially with the
Speaker 6: later scene. But in this scene in particularly, you think like,
Speaker 6: we're looking at this duty like this this asshole. We
Speaker 6: get these pretentious as takes and views from him throughout here,
Speaker 6: and now it looks like he's doing something that's noble
Speaker 6: and good. But then also it adds another layer later on,
Speaker 6: it's like, nah, it really ate that I'm trying to
Speaker 6: make it look like that. So it makes this character
Speaker 6: a lot more interesting that I like this scene because
Speaker 6: of that.
Speaker 1: Nay, Like right after the.
Speaker 2: Physical altercation, we see Hugh go to ran there and
Speaker 2: say like, Hey, I need to go over to this island.
Speaker 2: I need to go to Templeton my baby girl over there.
Speaker 2: I need to at least look out for and then
Speaker 2: we kind of see how.
Speaker 1: This play out.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like based off what you saw, and
Speaker 2: we'll get to the main part at the end, but like,
Speaker 2: based on what you saw, you think he's gonna lose
Speaker 2: his whole family before you know, before the end of
Speaker 2: the season.
Speaker 3: I am afraid that he is.
Speaker 5: And the thing that I'm thinking about now is how
Speaker 5: Orland or whatever his name is, Orenthal, how he comes
Speaker 5: off to the townspeople, like, he will protect y'all right
Speaker 5: if his guards do anything. But when Branera's troops came in,
Speaker 5: they were just pulling people out of the house left
Speaker 5: and right. They were beating up towns people right. So
Speaker 5: it's going to make it look like the high towers
Speaker 5: are actually protecting the townspeople more than Ranera's folks are.
Speaker 5: And my fear is that the Hammer's wife gets killed
Speaker 5: at the hands or something happens because of Ranera's troops,
Speaker 5: and maybe that's what instigates him to go to the
Speaker 5: other side.
Speaker 2: That's a great point that actually makes a lot of sense,
Speaker 2: because he just seems like they're setting him up for
Speaker 2: failure for something. Yeah, because he just seemed too like
Speaker 2: he's too good, he's too loyal, because he was. Someone
Speaker 2: had to remind me he was begging Egon earlier. I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was last season, but he was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he was like, bro, I'm hungry my part. Can y'all
Speaker 2: please give me some help here and there? And a
Speaker 2: god ain't help him, so I think he may turn
Speaker 2: on everybody. He said, none of y'all motherfuckers really helped
Speaker 2: me when I needed y'all and Mike you were writing
Speaker 2: her last episode, ran there is basically saying, Nigga, once
Speaker 2: a house go out for sales, we'll think about, you know,
Speaker 2: claiming it for you. But until then, Nigga, you you
Speaker 2: got to just stay in the fucking cottage wherever the fuck.
Speaker 1: He's still there living like god damn, Niko asked me
Speaker 1: about this house. I'm really amazed she's acting like this.
Speaker 7: I'm really amazed that she's making these types of decisions
Speaker 7: and she's doing nothing at all to maintain loyalty from
Speaker 7: these people.
Speaker 1: It's incredible to me how bad she is at this. Well,
Speaker 1: do you think it's from lack of experience. I think
Speaker 1: it's from lack of experience. And I think she's angry.
Speaker 1: I think that she's just she's angry that everybody did
Speaker 1: her wrong.
Speaker 7: This was supposed to be hers by birthright, her dad
Speaker 7: said this was hers, and she's just like, fuck everybody.
Speaker 7: The only thing that matters is I want this throne
Speaker 7: and I want everybody to respect me. And she's trying
Speaker 7: to play the game, but she's not playing it well because.
Speaker 1: Now the whole shit like, oh, they I'm sorry, I.
Speaker 3: Didn't mean to cut you off.
Speaker 1: My bag. No you good. I was just gonna say
Speaker 1: real quick.
Speaker 7: Now, she's all pissed off because somebody threw up some graffiti, Like, okay,
Speaker 7: go scrub the fucking graffiti off. But you you really
Speaker 7: telling all gold house to house pull people out do
Speaker 7: all this stupid shit. She's she's being dumb right now,
Speaker 7: she's being rash, she's being irrational. I don't know why
Speaker 7: she's acting like this. She's gonna lose if she doesn't
Speaker 7: get somebody in there that checks her.
Speaker 5: She's acting like this because the series did the same
Speaker 5: thing Corlis did through her a position that he didn't
Speaker 5: prepare her for.
Speaker 1: That's right. If he really wanted to be to.
Speaker 5: Be the Queen, he should have had her under his wing,
Speaker 5: showing her what it means to be on the throne.
Speaker 1: But nobody did that.
Speaker 3: He's just pissed four fathers in this show too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we get to that day, we get to that,
Speaker 2: but we didn't see the Black Nurse meet with Ranera
Speaker 2: for a one on one discussion on not just the
Speaker 2: history of like the High Towers and the Faith, but
Speaker 2: also how to deal with them.
Speaker 14: They are you following the Master of the Black Nurse. Yeah,
Speaker 14: that's what you told me that he was. He was like,
Speaker 14: what's what's comes from the pit?
Speaker 1: What's his name?
Speaker 15: Like Robbie, Yeah, black Robbie. Oh, Nate, what you expecting
Speaker 15: the black nurse to think?
Speaker 2: That Renera wanted him to like scheme on how to
Speaker 2: permanently remove the high something.
Speaker 3: So she trying to get rid of the church?
Speaker 15: Is that what?
Speaker 1: She trying to either control the church or if you
Speaker 1: can't control it, get rid of it because they won't.
Speaker 3: Throw her a party and say see that girl, like
Speaker 3: she want to get rid of them pretty much, and
Speaker 3: the nurse is like, she can't do that.
Speaker 7: No, he said, he said, we can kill him. I
Speaker 7: took a different Yeah, he said, but you want a
Speaker 7: permanent removal. That's what I was talking about with him
Speaker 7: like that.
Speaker 1: That dude was just asking for clarification. No, b that
Speaker 1: was a suggestion.
Speaker 6: And now it was like nah, it was like, if
Speaker 6: you need this done, we can do it, right. I
Speaker 6: don't know if it's what you're asking for, but I'm
Speaker 6: letting you know I can't get it done.
Speaker 1: But I also feel like that she would. I don't
Speaker 1: think that.
Speaker 6: Raniero was on that type of time either, Like she said,
Speaker 6: I do respect you offering that up as a solution.
Speaker 6: How Like, I think she is trying to honestly think
Speaker 6: through how to be peaceful with as many people as
Speaker 6: she can while she learning how to do this position.
Speaker 6: Whether it be the people that she took the food from,
Speaker 6: whether it be the common folk, or even the church,
Speaker 6: like she know they don't fuck with her. She trying
Speaker 6: to figure out how she can get them to fuck
Speaker 6: with her. And my boy was just like, we can
Speaker 6: just kill them, really, you know, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: So the church folks, she's stupid, man her she did it. She'
Speaker 1: she cerously was smarter than her.
Speaker 3: O facts, that's just just grasp at straws.
Speaker 5: She don't know what to do, and so she don't
Speaker 5: have Damon there to take her all the way left,
Speaker 5: so she can pull it back a little bit and
Speaker 5: actually do what needs to be done.
Speaker 2: I think this is just more of like a story
Speaker 2: of like good intentions leader to like pave the road
Speaker 2: to the hell, because I feel like she she entertains
Speaker 2: evil shit, but she don't do evil or she tries
Speaker 2: not to do evil shit, but she's always entertaining it.
Speaker 2: And I think because to your point, day she don't
Speaker 2: have Damon to be like, all right, I can just
Speaker 2: blame him for being the devil, because I don't want
Speaker 2: to be blamed as the devil. Like you're just making
Speaker 2: You're trying to be too good, and you're trying to
Speaker 2: please everybody.
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna end up pleasing nobody.
Speaker 2: So I do agree with your point on that day,
Speaker 2: and I think she will eventually make a big mistake
Speaker 2: and kill somebody that she wasn't supposed to kill, because
Speaker 2: I think the way that she's scheming right now, she
Speaker 2: like the townfolks, don't fuck with me, my orman slash,
Speaker 2: my peers, don't fuck with me, and my counsel ain't shit.
Speaker 1: Let me just fuck some shit up. We then go
Speaker 1: see Damon speak with.
Speaker 2: That one white lady that Lou was getting confused with
Speaker 2: the witch to either oh okay, my bad, to either
Speaker 2: get more gold or to get more army man, but
Speaker 2: obviously to get him away. To get him to go
Speaker 2: away quickly, she gives him some bread before but ken
Speaker 2: to not bury the lead anymore.
Speaker 1: Before he leaves with the gold, his rote waller start
Speaker 1: acting up. But what did you think of this? Father,
Speaker 1: daughtter reunion? We never knew that we needed. Well.
Speaker 4: Damon definitely seemed like he was bothered by that damn dragon.
Speaker 1: I was listening to him, and it.
Speaker 4: Really showed how powerless they are at times when it
Speaker 4: comes to them. I thought that shot of her walking
Speaker 4: out and the dragon kind of you know, showing the
Speaker 4: fire in the back was pretty dope because that's how
Speaker 4: she got all that dust and stuff on her when
Speaker 4: she walked out, because they kind of you know, cooked
Speaker 4: her a little bit. And I thought that that was
Speaker 4: pretty dope. When she walked out, you know, looking like
Speaker 4: a crackhead. We talked to her, uh, her daddy and ship.
Speaker 4: He couldn't even believe it was her for a minute,
Speaker 4: you know, he was shocked and dismayed. And I thought
Speaker 4: the whole thing was really interesting and I love like
Speaker 4: seeing like the dragons sort of have this internal conflict
Speaker 4: and beef between one another because they wanted to scrap
Speaker 4: and they were definitely looking to protect one of the riders.
Speaker 1: Up.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something, when that damn dragon started
Speaker 4: to run out and they they kind of jumped like this.
Speaker 1: When I tell you that ship cracked. The fuck that
Speaker 1: ship was funny because.
Speaker 4: It looked like, you know, we have a dog and
Speaker 4: somebody clearing with a dog and they're like sick. It
Speaker 4: looked like the dog somebody sink the dog on date.
Speaker 4: They got to out because he thought the dollars byt
Speaker 4: beginning and he got.
Speaker 1: The fuck up out of the way.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 1: But all that was really really dope.
Speaker 4: But I'm surprised that she ain't found the pond or
Speaker 4: anything to kind of wash up.
Speaker 1: To me like you can't find you can't find. Gee,
Speaker 1: it's old for that.
Speaker 4: I think this is what I thought was really interesting
Speaker 4: because of what he did afterwards, because Damon.
Speaker 1: Randa is in a tough spot. Nobody want her. She's
Speaker 1: at South to this damn her. He gave her out. Bro.
Speaker 1: I was like, like, you ain't got to do one
Speaker 1: of this. Hop on his dragon with me. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go back to kings lanning with you. We're gonna explain
Speaker 1: what happened, lie a little bit so nobody ain't got
Speaker 1: to know, and you out of this ain't gonna work. Bro,
Speaker 1: that she ain't gonna don't work. It was gonna work.
Speaker 1: He can do what though?
Speaker 6: Just live not live in a cave. Yeah, yeah, not
Speaker 6: live in a cave and look like Felicia from Friday
Speaker 6: Sharing She's think, she's think just like them people by
Speaker 6: that dragons think.
Speaker 1: Damon know what.
Speaker 6: He trying to get her up out of there. He's
Speaker 6: trying to take her to kings Landing, like, look, you ain't.
Speaker 1: Gotta live like this. You ain't got to do this.
Speaker 6: Like look, I know you don't have a dragon and
Speaker 6: you are Tygerian, but that's fine.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find something you to do at the rig keep.
Speaker 1: You ain't got to do this. You ain't got to
Speaker 1: be out here on the streets like this. She should
Speaker 1: have took this off.
Speaker 5: What she doing in the cave a dragon ass dragon,
Speaker 5: but she has a dragon. That's what she always wanted.
Speaker 5: So she's just live in these caves with how dragon
Speaker 5: is she connected with?
Speaker 6: She She's insane. She is a crazy person right now.
Speaker 6: Her and her dragon are crazy people. Damon did the
Speaker 6: best he could trying to get her up out of there.
Speaker 6: I think, I really think this was the best scene
Speaker 6: of the episode because I think it had so many
Speaker 6: implications on what's going to happen, especially what we know
Speaker 6: Damon to do moving forward. As far as lying about
Speaker 6: this like that, I think a lot of things will
Speaker 6: stream for this. But yeah, she she's insane, she's she's
Speaker 6: a crazy person's offer.
Speaker 7: Her refusing to go back with Damon was just pure stupid.
Speaker 7: I guess she has a bond with the dragon. That
Speaker 7: motherfucker will be all right, all right, he's been out
Speaker 7: here eating sheep.
Speaker 1: That motherfucker. He's used to the streets. Let him go.
Speaker 7: You're not used to this, Go home and let that
Speaker 7: dragon be off. But I'm not gonna leave him by himself.
Speaker 7: He was fine before your stupid as showed up. He
Speaker 7: was eating sheep, just walking around being happy with you. Look,
Speaker 7: he didn't need you. You showed up talking about, oh,
Speaker 7: let's bring you into royalty. I don't want to go
Speaker 7: over there and be no, leave him alone. But when
Speaker 7: you talk about kN when when when Damon jumped, that
Speaker 7: wasn't what was funny to me. What was funny was Cracks.
Speaker 7: It was like, oh, ship, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was like this. When she stealing
Speaker 1: came out, cracksis his face was.
Speaker 4: Like what is that?
Speaker 1: Hey? He looked like regular draggon this mother, No, it
Speaker 1: was one of them. I told you them niggas. Crazy man.
Speaker 6: I brought you over him, man, try to get down
Speaker 6: with it all this said, nigg crazy bro cracks and
Speaker 6: didn't even go near the cane Cracks is landed like
Speaker 6: they in there, Like theyre.
Speaker 1: In there, bro, see what's going on. She didn't there.
Speaker 1: That crazy mom you know was dragging. I know they
Speaker 1: here and Damon kept looking back. Christ was like, bitch,
Speaker 1: I ain't doing it now. You can't let me know.
Speaker 6: Oh it's so funny how they gave these dragons personality
Speaker 6: because he was just like that, go get her, brother,
Speaker 6: like you need to save her.
Speaker 2: Your daughter in there, nigga, nay, I forgot to bring
Speaker 2: this up the I get I forgot whatever. So I
Speaker 2: think it was the first episode of the season when
Speaker 2: we uh or the second episode after Jay said but
Speaker 2: we see Renee, I think that's her name go to
Speaker 2: the White Lady before she went to Damon and someone
Speaker 2: made a comment like that says a lot about Damon
Speaker 2: as a father that her first thought and option was
Speaker 2: I can't go home, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 2: then we get this scene that I wanted to get
Speaker 2: your thoughts off because she says, like you always never
Speaker 2: really paid attention to me. You didn't let me get
Speaker 2: a dragon. I've never really felt like I was a
Speaker 2: part of his family. Just leave me alone, like she
Speaker 2: and when he asked her about her future, she was like, nigga,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm ready to live in the streets because I
Speaker 2: at least get more love.
Speaker 1: I get more love in the streets that ever got
Speaker 1: at home. They did this not hit you? Or was
Speaker 1: this weird for you?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, that's not why she didn't win home,
Speaker 5: go home. She went home because she killed the heir
Speaker 5: to the throne, and she knew that her ass was
Speaker 5: gonna get handed to her for that. She knew she
Speaker 5: was gonna have to suffer some kind of repercussion, so
Speaker 5: she ain't going home.
Speaker 3: I don't think I think that that.
Speaker 5: All of that is true. Sure, she didn't have a
Speaker 5: place right, she didn't have a dragon. She felt overlooked,
Speaker 5: and I do believe that it's true. But I also
Speaker 5: think she don't want to deal with what she knows.
Speaker 5: She gotta to deal with with what she did, because
Speaker 5: that's the first thing Dan to say. He was like,
Speaker 5: we all have told you you can't fuck with noble dragons, Like,
Speaker 5: what are you doing for real? Why do you think
Speaker 5: that you can do this, and she was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I made a mistake. You're gonna have to deal with
Speaker 5: the consequences. And she's trying to actually avoid the consequences
Speaker 5: on top of the fact of she's not happy there.
Speaker 5: So if I'm not happy there and I got to
Speaker 5: deal with the consequences, nigga, I'm gonna just stay outside.
Speaker 5: So it didn't strike me as some you're a horrible
Speaker 5: father typeg because I think his reaction in that scene
Speaker 5: showed quite the opposite.
Speaker 3: He looked so distraught, He's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 5: Like his reactions, it was one of the most emotional
Speaker 5: you've seen Damon for real, dealing with her and dealing
Speaker 5: with like, how am I supposed to deal with what
Speaker 5: you've done?
Speaker 3: How do we fix this for you?
Speaker 4: Like you?
Speaker 5: I've never seen him that that like emotional, so like her, right,
Speaker 5: I don't necessarily think it was an indication that he
Speaker 5: was a bad father. I just think it was an
Speaker 5: indication that her situation is just all fucked up.
Speaker 2: I just thought that because maybe I'm wrong because of
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to remember. But I always felt like,
Speaker 2: no matter how much these kids messed up, the parents
Speaker 2: usually would step up for their kids, and usually the
Speaker 2: kid would know that and that would be the first,
Speaker 2: like if shit really hit the fan, they going back home.
Speaker 2: So when she didn't, I was looking at it because
Speaker 2: we never really seen Damon interact with his kids like
Speaker 2: that for like awesome as much as we see Verniera
Speaker 2: with her kids, so we understand that bond. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: because she's a mom, but with Damon, it was just like,
Speaker 2: we don't even see the motherfucker play catch with these motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: So it's like.
Speaker 2: When you hear When I heard what she had to say,
Speaker 2: just felt like, oh, this is your doing. This is
Speaker 2: based off of years of neglect. Why I'm in this
Speaker 2: cave with this ugly ass dragon? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Well, no, is it their fault that no dragon wanted her? Right?
Speaker 1: Is it who fault? Didn't no dragon wann her? Everybody else? Okay,
Speaker 1: the dragon's being wanted. The only one that wanted them
Speaker 1: was the one that was out there. So you asked that,
Speaker 1: to what point you're proven when you say that.
Speaker 4: Why is she blaming Damon for Dragon not choosing her?
Speaker 4: That's not his fault?
Speaker 1: Agree? Okay?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that he came in with a fatherly solution,
Speaker 6: like I think he did. He may have, he may
Speaker 6: not have been the best father up to that point. No, however,
Speaker 6: he's looking at his child in this situation. He's like, look,
Speaker 6: this is how we're gonna get out of this. Hopping
Speaker 6: on this dragon with me. We're gonna go to Kingsland
Speaker 6: and we're gonna lie about whatever happened, and nobody ever
Speaker 6: has to know me and you. He offered her a
Speaker 6: solution as like, yeah, you have a point in what
Speaker 6: you're saying to me in this little speech about.
Speaker 1: Me ignoring you and never being there as a father.
Speaker 1: Find I get it. But now I'm gonna save your
Speaker 1: life and somewhere She yeah, Well she still wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: let her go that that that was gonna make it
Speaker 1: to nowhere else.
Speaker 3: Saying nobody else, don't say that ship. Don't say that ship.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 1: Don't get lost if it was. It's like, it's like
Speaker 1: we all think it, but nobody actually say it. But
Speaker 1: Spike Dragon wasn't gonna make it out of way where
Speaker 1: they kid. What I'm saying is that if she she.
Speaker 4: Squirrel, but not if she tried to, if she tried to, look,
Speaker 4: you saw when Damon walked up on the first time
Speaker 4: he was about the fire, Damon ass up and Damon
Speaker 4: walked his ass back.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't even let her touch it.
Speaker 4: So if she tried to walk and get on that
Speaker 4: drag and we would have had an issue that She's
Speaker 4: still have been out there by himself this whole time.
Speaker 1: He finally got a friend. I ain't gonna let that
Speaker 1: ship go. And that's the issue. So I don't think that.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's as simple as as some of
Speaker 1: y'all are making it out to be.
Speaker 4: She cannot take her ass back to this damn castle
Speaker 4: and tell Renera, Oops, my bad, she does.
Speaker 1: He didn't tell her to do that. He said that
Speaker 1: to him.
Speaker 7: Why Yeah, he didn't tell her Bops, my bad. He said,
Speaker 7: come back. We'll make up a story.
Speaker 1: She will never know that you had anything to do
Speaker 1: with any of this. That's the only solution that would
Speaker 1: have made.
Speaker 7: Sense for for whatever her name is. She could have
Speaker 7: went and told she steal her Hey, bro, I'll be
Speaker 7: back and just leave. I'm sure someone has done that
Speaker 7: to him before.
Speaker 1: Sheeps still gonna find her ask Mike Sheep still bring
Speaker 1: his ass to do it.
Speaker 6: But oh, I tame this dragon right here in front
Speaker 6: of your very eyes, like you ain't gotta know, like
Speaker 6: you did it before. Even if he does find her
Speaker 6: and pops up on her and like, oh yeah, you remember,
Speaker 6: you're my rider with the dragon, like she can still
Speaker 6: act like this is the first time I've done this
Speaker 6: and it's a miracle, Like yeah, right, he gave her
Speaker 6: the He gave her the most only solution to this problem,
Speaker 6: exactly the only problem.
Speaker 1: I don't know right thing what we see you we're
Speaker 1: gonna see see before the season over with. If she
Speaker 1: did the right then.
Speaker 2: Uh we then see ormand get a raven and learns
Speaker 2: that aiming ain't coming, lou.
Speaker 1: What you think about how he reacted after learn of this, Lose.
Speaker 6: What I liked about this scene was how the squire
Speaker 6: the dare Dagon Darren. I liked how he reacted trying
Speaker 6: to get people out the room. That shows us that
Speaker 6: he's been paying attention to him, that he knows his triggers.
Speaker 6: You know, he feel to like go off on the
Speaker 6: deep end or whatever it may be, and maybe trying
Speaker 6: to prevent people from seeing it or but I like
Speaker 6: the fact that it shows that he's been observant of
Speaker 6: who this person is that has held him captive in
Speaker 6: his squad or been his overseer for however long he's
Speaker 6: been there, and he's kind of like paying attention.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that I like the most about the scene.
Speaker 2: Now, the thing I like the most about the scene
Speaker 2: was seeing Orman with all his sets. Those you could
Speaker 2: tell those all his top show sets. That motherfucker was
Speaker 2: sniffing like a motherfucker until he had got that bad news.
Speaker 3: He was making camerameal rosing.
Speaker 1: That was all some shit. But that outburst Kim was unnecessary.
Speaker 1: He really wasn't that bad. I loved it.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 4: That kid was like, get out, and he knew he
Speaker 4: don't smack that kid when he got some bad news before.
Speaker 4: He don't smack that kid, you know. And that guard
Speaker 4: behind him didn't even move. Everybody's used to that kid
Speaker 4: knew what was up. And he told that kid, if
Speaker 4: you don't want to get hit, you need to leave
Speaker 4: this room right now. And I'm far away that maybe
Speaker 4: he might not come over here and take it out
Speaker 4: on me, and he just took it out on the table.
Speaker 4: I messed with Orman, bro. The more and more this
Speaker 4: episode played, the more and more. I was like, you
Speaker 4: know what, I messed with him because Ormon was walking
Speaker 4: around in that Tumbletown like he was the baddest motherfucker
Speaker 4: around and nobody in the Seven Kingdoms or whatever can
Speaker 4: fuck with him.
Speaker 1: But he's also very smart and calculated, and he was like,
Speaker 1: all right, well shit on the plan.
Speaker 6: B to your point too, kid. They were talking about
Speaker 6: him doing the place that they were from like that too.
Speaker 6: They were saying that Otto was sending him letters and
Speaker 6: asking for all these things. He was just wasn't responding to.
Speaker 6: Was like running that scenorty like this is my ship.
Speaker 6: Seen him do that in Old Town? They seen we
Speaker 6: seen him do that in Tumbletown too. So I thought
Speaker 6: that was a good little thing that they brought up
Speaker 6: in the sense of like, yeah, he was writing the letters,
Speaker 6: but he would have responded.
Speaker 1: He ain't with nobody like once he get in charge,
Speaker 1: so he had charge.
Speaker 7: Mike, did you end up fucking with Ormond Moore after
Speaker 7: the scene or less? I don't funk with him at all.
Speaker 7: I think he's a dope villain, but I don't fuck
Speaker 7: with him. I think he's he's a terrible human. He's
Speaker 7: a trash bag of a person. I just think he's very,
Speaker 7: very interesting as a villain. But yeah, I mean I
Speaker 7: think that if you watch the scene, you'll notice that
Speaker 7: d Darren Darren, Darren Darren flinched, but the other dude didn't.
Speaker 7: The other dude stayed stone cold. This is something that that.
Speaker 1: Ormond does all the time. He's a baby. He flips out,
Speaker 1: he bugs out, he's just like, yeah, he's just like Homelander.
Speaker 7: I forget brought him up earlier, but like, yeah, he
Speaker 7: he had these weird outbursts because he's not used to
Speaker 7: being told no.
Speaker 1: He doesn't like being told no. So no, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't funk with him at all. I hate him.
Speaker 1: I want him to stay around for a while though,
Speaker 1: because he's a he's a good villain. Yeah he is
Speaker 1: a good girl.
Speaker 2: Like oh nay, we didn't see o speaking of someone
Speaker 2: feeling like mister Nigga Oof goes to the bar.
Speaker 1: Going there, he's like, was it norm from cheers?
Speaker 2: Everybody know his name of that motherfucker he buy arousing everybody.
Speaker 1: But then they using him.
Speaker 2: They you know how you always got to warn your
Speaker 2: kid about these friends and how they they'll ask you
Speaker 2: for favors and whatnot, particularly.
Speaker 3: About that from just this weekend, But I digress. That's
Speaker 3: another day.
Speaker 5: This is the most niggorous ship I think I've seen
Speaker 5: on the House of Dragon episode, a Game of Frons episode.
Speaker 3: What the fuck You're trying to get your hall boy
Speaker 3: from the bar put on, and so you go to
Speaker 3: the queen.
Speaker 5: To say, is he's a friend from a bar that
Speaker 5: I frequently?
Speaker 1: You see how he kept on trying to change present
Speaker 1: tense the past tests.
Speaker 11: He was like, how I frequently I mean frequent back
Speaker 11: in the day, And in his way he threw a
Speaker 11: subtle temper tantrum and he was like, that's why they
Speaker 11: calling you queen bit on.
Speaker 7: That ship was funny. That ship was the funniest. Hell,
Speaker 7: that's why they don't like your punk ass. You know,
Speaker 7: they hate you out there. And it worked too much.
Speaker 1: It's good that she was like, damn, he right. That
Speaker 1: was the only response she could hell, because he locked her.
Speaker 1: She locked her.
Speaker 6: That was the only response that he could have because
Speaker 6: she locked him up. Matter of fact, you can't go
Speaker 6: there no more. You can't even leave unless you riding
Speaker 6: the dragon.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 6: Just hang out around you figure figure out your little
Speaker 6: drinking and all that in.
Speaker 1: The castle that's gonna burn her too. Facts, but that
Speaker 1: she is right. She was one hundred percent right because
Speaker 1: Olaf is stupid as hell. Facts. I'm surprised she didn't
Speaker 1: bug out on him when he said that ship that
Speaker 1: is right.
Speaker 3: She was like, I got so much other ship to
Speaker 3: deal with. You really coming, And he's like, you know what,
Speaker 3: go to your room and you can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's really what it felt like.
Speaker 3: I don't even have trying to deal with this dumb foolishness.
Speaker 1: M h hey can. When he told her the street
Speaker 1: still love you like she loves she.
Speaker 6: Was like, damn, what the fuck? And he walked in
Speaker 6: their swag doors. He really was going to get some
Speaker 6: clout for his homeboys. He's like, look, man, people need
Speaker 6: this ship. Man, Like he walked in there like he.
Speaker 1: Didn't expect her to say no.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is like now that we see the
Speaker 2: time on them things like everything he's asked for, she's
Speaker 2: been telling him, hell no, it ain't even like it's
Speaker 2: a non sho. But I'm just saying though, Like for him,
Speaker 2: it's like, Nigga, I'm riding for your banner. I can't
Speaker 2: get a castle. I can't get. I can't let the
Speaker 2: homies drink on me.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't get a name. I can't get
Speaker 1: the name. I can't even get the family name because
Speaker 1: clearly I'm family. You got me sleeping in the castle
Speaker 1: and ship. No, no to all of that.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: But but but that's like, what the what's the point
Speaker 1: of me being with you if you keep telling me.
Speaker 6: No, I get I get this out of it too.
Speaker 6: We're also looking from it ran a sign. You're like, Bro,
Speaker 6: you're asking for a lot, Like be happy that you
Speaker 6: ride the dragon, go drink with your friends.
Speaker 1: Don't you ask all my life for a homeboy mortgage? Like, Bro,
Speaker 1: you come and ask me to pay your homeboy mortgage.
Speaker 6: But whatever it is, y'all got going on in this bar,
Speaker 6: I ain't got nothing to he said, Yeah, work for Kodak.
Speaker 1: Black Trouble brought me to be there.
Speaker 2: Lou Lo she I think she brought up in this episode.
Speaker 2: She was like, you are like like your belly is mine,
Speaker 2: Like you are owned by this, like you are owned
Speaker 2: by us, Nigga, you got no like matter of fact,
Speaker 2: you're staying here. It's like anything you got his mind,
Speaker 2: It's like, bro, like that's crazy to hear from somebody
Speaker 2: who's asking for your life as your pledge to him.
Speaker 1: You got to give him some give him some crumbs.
Speaker 1: At least you got a dragon, right, But he can't
Speaker 1: do ship with it all over these guys.
Speaker 3: What you're talking about and that's it.
Speaker 1: You can't get a free drink. That's like you're telling
Speaker 1: Dom he can ride his bike in the back, but
Speaker 1: he can't ride it us that He's gonna be like
Speaker 1: what what? What's the word?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 3: I don't see the problem with that.
Speaker 1: What you said.
Speaker 3: I say he lives in the castle. He can have
Speaker 3: all the castle wine. He wng.
Speaker 1: I guess that's true. He don't need to go to
Speaker 1: the bar. But it don't hit like moonshine. They can
Speaker 1: get moonshine ship to the to the to the castle.
Speaker 1: But he ain't homies.
Speaker 6: But look what you say, Spike, I just said, he's
Speaker 6: trying to be outside. He don't want to be in
Speaker 6: the castle walls. You want to be out there with
Speaker 6: his people.
Speaker 1: Respect him. He's trying to look out for his friends.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: You know, he's the only one that came back there
Speaker 1: to ask for something for his homies. I respect it.
Speaker 7: They saying, those ain't the homies you ask favous folk.
Speaker 7: Just man, I'm looking at I'm looking at it from
Speaker 7: his standpoint. He's like, Okay, fine, you say I couldn't
Speaker 7: have the name. You said I couldn't have a castle. Fine,
Speaker 7: maybe this one little thing he's He's really not asking
Speaker 7: her to do a lot. He's really not for his
Speaker 7: little friends. This should be something simple, But Ranera is
Speaker 7: always saying no to everything.
Speaker 3: What are he asking for?
Speaker 7: He asked them basically, and correct me if I'm wrong, Spike,
Speaker 7: But it sounded like he was just asking them or
Speaker 7: asking her.
Speaker 1: Wasn't he asking her to like clear their bar tab
Speaker 1: or clear something? Sh just want to ask her to
Speaker 1: knock these tickets off my homework.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but but if she says, look, these two people,
Speaker 7: their records are clear, the whole town's not gonna riot.
Speaker 1: She can do these little things, but she won't do anything.
Speaker 3: They're not eating.
Speaker 5: You telling me I'm supposed to wave they feed, and
Speaker 5: not a queen who ain't giving me no food is
Speaker 5: telling me I.
Speaker 7: Can't collect my overdue bis because I'd rather have that
Speaker 7: dude pissed off than this dude that actually has a
Speaker 7: dragon that's supposed to be on my side.
Speaker 1: She's making bad decisions.
Speaker 7: This is something small she can say, Look, put their
Speaker 7: tab on hold, and when this whole war is over,
Speaker 7: I will personally come.
Speaker 1: Here and settle up. That's all she has to do.
Speaker 7: And the dude's gonna be like damn the queen because
Speaker 7: he's not gonna get his money anyway, because these dudes
Speaker 7: are broke, you know, so he can look at it
Speaker 7: like damn the queen came to me personally and asked
Speaker 7: me to put their tab on hold. Bet I'll do that,
Speaker 7: But she's just like, no, I'm not doing that. What
Speaker 7: Get the fuck out of here? But you want this
Speaker 7: to not fuck that? Get out my face. She's she's
Speaker 7: not making good decisions, man, and she's about the ball.
Speaker 6: One of them asked for his partner to get a
Speaker 6: piece of land outside the city, the second when he
Speaker 6: asked for a pardon, and the third when he asked
Speaker 6: for passage for one of his friends to go somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Okay, the land may be off limits, but the other
Speaker 1: two she could do. What's the bigginning right asking me
Speaker 1: to do it?
Speaker 6: I don't think it matter though, now you like I
Speaker 6: understand what you're saying, but I don't think it matter.
Speaker 6: Like you got to say to something. You can't just
Speaker 6: be in there being like nah nah no. Like everybody
Speaker 6: that got something to do with a dragon that you like,
Speaker 6: these bashard Riders or whatever they call. You told all
Speaker 6: of them no, and they put their life on the
Speaker 6: line for you. The black dude wanted the name, you
Speaker 6: wouldn't give him a name. Dude want to go see
Speaker 6: his wife, You won't let him go see his wife.
Speaker 6: This dude want his homeboys to have a little piece
Speaker 6: of land to get out of excuse some debts or
Speaker 6: whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: You're telling them no.
Speaker 6: It's like you all like you just the default is no,
Speaker 6: and at some point they're gonna turn on you. That
Speaker 6: that's not good for her business.
Speaker 5: When Nearra told them last episode she is a wash
Speaker 5: in deficiency. She has too much other shit to be
Speaker 5: worried about. You are coming to me with this petty bullshit.
Speaker 5: Do you know what else I have to work?
Speaker 3: Go talk to the Grandmaster.
Speaker 1: I ain't got time to this shit. She could have
Speaker 1: said that now.
Speaker 5: All the things she is guilty of is having some
Speaker 5: piss poor ass people in her in her in her
Speaker 5: employ That is it?
Speaker 7: Because why are you coming to me with this bullshit?
Speaker 7: But because because I'm stupid, and she knows I'm stupid.
Speaker 7: That's the only reason I'm here.
Speaker 1: She knows to get the fuck out of my face. No,
Speaker 1: that's why she should give him this small ship so
Speaker 1: he'll stop asking for big ship. Given me so much
Speaker 1: more to him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he could be asking for something much bigger. The
Speaker 7: name was bigger. I see why she said no to that.
Speaker 7: The castle was bigger. I see why she said no
Speaker 7: to that. Now he's asking for small piddly ship. You
Speaker 7: bat so he'll shut up.
Speaker 5: You ain't never had a kid to just ask you
Speaker 5: for every goddamn thing. And by the time he gets
Speaker 5: to the six or seven thing, it's like, I don't
Speaker 5: want to hear ship.
Speaker 3: You gotta say. She needs to use up all his passes.
Speaker 5: At this point, I don't take anything you say seriously
Speaker 5: because you was a dumbass.
Speaker 1: See she that's gonna burn her in the end. That's
Speaker 1: gonna burn it.
Speaker 3: Because I got a dragon, I don't.
Speaker 7: She's gonna lose three of them. I'm betting money on it.
Speaker 7: She's gonna lose at least three dragons.
Speaker 4: I kind of agree with you on that last one
Speaker 4: day because I feel like that just happened to me today.
Speaker 1: Like, don't you'll ask me for ship else, y'all.
Speaker 5: I ain't never been to the grocery store with a kid,
Speaker 5: is what it sounds like. It's like, I don't ask
Speaker 5: me for nothing. I don't know how we will call
Speaker 5: this a penny at at the cash registered.
Speaker 1: Don't ask me. But you love those kids. You don't
Speaker 1: need those kids. That's the difference. We're neara needs you
Speaker 1: don't need him. That was that's low key a bar right.
Speaker 2: We then see Damon come back to kings Landing and
Speaker 2: learns that Brenier has hired a new master of coin.
Speaker 1: Based off the advice she got from the d I duo.
Speaker 2: Uh, this part was funny, but but he got good
Speaker 2: news there, Mike, Sissy has found the killer of her son, Jakes.
Speaker 2: What did you think of the scene between Damon and Ranera, Man,
Speaker 2: I was literally in tears when Danmon was like, who
Speaker 2: the fuck is this?
Speaker 1: Every time I come back, he's got some new here's
Speaker 1: some new person just chilling.
Speaker 3: Who the fuck?
Speaker 1: Hey, Mike, the way he the way he asked that question,
Speaker 1: was real slick. He was like, can you tell me
Speaker 1: who this nigga is? Explained to me. He's like so
Speaker 1: cold too. He's just like, man, just give me some
Speaker 1: sort of semblance of an idea.
Speaker 4: This dude is.
Speaker 1: What house is he from? What neighborhood did he grow
Speaker 1: up in? Who is this man? That ship was funny?
Speaker 1: But nah, I'm I was trying to figure out.
Speaker 7: I mean, clearly we learned later in the conversation that
Speaker 7: she did believe it, But at first I was like,
Speaker 7: she's not gonna believe this.
Speaker 1: You was brought back the head because didn't she? And
Speaker 1: maybe I'm making this up?
Speaker 7: And I thought she specifically said to bring him bring
Speaker 7: the rider back alive.
Speaker 1: She did, she did, so I didn't think she was
Speaker 1: believing it until the end of the conversation.
Speaker 4: I don't know if she believed it because she was
Speaker 4: looking at that snagger two skeleton skull a little too hard, bro.
Speaker 7: But didn't she also say I'm mad because I wanted
Speaker 7: to speak to him and you killed him.
Speaker 1: So I think she did believe it.
Speaker 7: And who else we riding a fucking homeless, crazy ass, crackhead,
Speaker 7: fucking dragon.
Speaker 1: Some dude would have snaggled too. Then it made sense.
Speaker 7: The damn head kind of looked like she steel her
Speaker 7: a little bit. You know how they say that people
Speaker 7: that got dogs, they start to look like that's what's
Speaker 7: wrong with That's what's wrong with Rader. She needs to
Speaker 7: learn her like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you are, Like, do you think
Speaker 2: Damon is a good liar? I mean, lou, do you
Speaker 2: think Damon is a good liar?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think he's lied well enough to make this believable.
Speaker 6: However, I think this is some circumstances gonna pop up,
Speaker 6: but she's not gonna be able to believe it. I
Speaker 6: think that's why this scene was so good, and the
Speaker 6: scene with him and his daughter earlier was so good
Speaker 6: because you know, if you know Game of Thrones, you
Speaker 6: know this lord, you know this world, something gonna come
Speaker 6: from this, Like he's not gonna get this off. They
Speaker 6: wouldn't have let like the reason that they focused on
Speaker 6: this and her and Damon having this conversation and everybody
Speaker 6: else leave in the room.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna get this off.
Speaker 6: And it's gonna come a point in time where she's
Speaker 6: gonna have to be like, you lied to me about
Speaker 6: this major thing that I told you not to. How
Speaker 6: are we gonna move forward from? I feel like we
Speaker 6: know that's gonna happen because rain and and She's still
Speaker 6: gonna pop up at that castle. But Nick, I think
Speaker 6: that I don't think Damon is a good liar. I
Speaker 6: think Ranera it's just stupid enough to fall forward. Mm hmm,
Speaker 6: That's what I think, because.
Speaker 4: I think Massiria Mysterio whatever her name is, she didn't
Speaker 4: believe that ship one bit. As soon as he put
Speaker 4: that motherfuck on the on the debt on the table,
Speaker 4: she knew that ship was a lie.
Speaker 1: So she No, she's smart.
Speaker 2: She both hat she both she's smart and she had
Speaker 2: hated and that's why she has like who body is
Speaker 2: that nigga?
Speaker 4: Know?
Speaker 1: For real? She's just hating really like trying to see
Speaker 1: if she can get n She knows, she knows. Do
Speaker 1: you think that she was dropping. Do you think that
Speaker 1: Ranera would believe this just to like move on with
Speaker 1: her son or do you think.
Speaker 2: Because she still not satisfied with how Damon presented all this,
Speaker 2: She's like, there has to be more to it, This
Speaker 2: ain't just it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think she one hundred percent bought it.
Speaker 5: I think she bought it enough for the time and
Speaker 5: for the moment, But I think that this is something
Speaker 5: that's gonna keep playing in her head until she like
Speaker 5: figures out, Oh, nigga, you lied to me. And I
Speaker 5: don't know, maybe that's the thing that makes her snap
Speaker 5: to become near the crew. I don't know, but I
Speaker 5: feel like I don't feel like this.
Speaker 3: Is the last.
Speaker 5: This is gonna circle back around. It has to, and
Speaker 5: if it doesn't, I would be grossly disappointed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, It got to. Yeah. Wait, so she
Speaker 1: eventually is that the name that she oh? Is that
Speaker 1: what she turns into? Okay, don't worry about it. Nope,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: Damn't even I didn't even hear what was said. So
Speaker 2: I'm gonna move on once again. We see uh er
Speaker 2: a link up with Allison and she tells her that
Speaker 2: she sent her daddy's ashes to her people and then
Speaker 2: gave her daddy's funky ass ring his pinky ring. Oh
Speaker 2: but right after she left, Nay, we see that there's
Speaker 2: a little surprise left in the room.
Speaker 1: Who do you think is telling us baby daddy child?
Speaker 3: I don't even know who she been fucking because a
Speaker 3: god been gone, like how far along is?
Speaker 1: She? Ill have so many questions the master the black yep,
Speaker 1: I bet your watch, God, that'd be funny. And the
Speaker 1: heir gonna come out doing it like this like a
Speaker 1: balloon losing air.
Speaker 5: But okay, so let's think about this though, because if
Speaker 5: she did have another kid with a gon, then is
Speaker 5: that another air?
Speaker 2: Yes, she would have to kill she would have to
Speaker 2: kill him, and nay the streets saying this Aiming's kid.
Speaker 1: Amen, that's what I think. The brother with he was
Speaker 1: messing with his other sister. No, you don't even like
Speaker 1: her for real. He kissed his mama because he had
Speaker 1: an issue. I'm just saying he's one of the family.
Speaker 1: They all family.
Speaker 3: I don't think you don't even really you don't even
Speaker 3: really mess.
Speaker 2: With her for real, because like you said, an lost
Speaker 2: his dick in the battle, so he ain't fucking nobody, right.
Speaker 2: The only mother that yeah, only that would make sense
Speaker 2: is Aiming because he the only.
Speaker 1: One in the house.
Speaker 5: No, Helena b be off of her own looking at
Speaker 5: crickets and in that in them woods.
Speaker 1: With that, with that tree.
Speaker 5: I feel like it's somebody that we don't know about yet,
Speaker 5: that being in woods.
Speaker 4: With her.
Speaker 6: Saying though, because it can be introducing no character, that
Speaker 6: could have been like, yeah, he smashing.
Speaker 1: So she's sucking the darker.
Speaker 3: Perhaps she's just stupid.
Speaker 1: Enough, perhaps like would you put Elena about to have
Speaker 1: a sheep? Still her ass? Baby? She got ready slow herself.
Speaker 1: She fucking won the wood and.
Speaker 3: ELPs one of the elves.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's how the three I Raatemn is born.
Speaker 1: All this incest. But you're just made up all kind
Speaker 1: of ship. That makes sense. Kids. They basically.
Speaker 2: Everybody and their mama is on the board, even the
Speaker 2: Wood characters, everybody.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised if they did pull some goofy
Speaker 7: ship and say that it was like a maculate conception
Speaker 7: of some weirdness, because it's clearly not.
Speaker 1: It's clearly not Amon's baby.
Speaker 6: How far along she is though, right, he's.
Speaker 1: Been gone for a while. He's going that long, he'd
Speaker 1: be burnt up.
Speaker 6: She looked like she if she noticing her breast and
Speaker 6: her stomach, then it's like two months, three months something.
Speaker 1: Like that, If not more so, how long has it
Speaker 1: been since he went and got burnt up? Because he's
Speaker 1: he's healed. It ain't been too much.
Speaker 7: It has to be think about it. If he was
Speaker 7: burnt up that bad, his face is healed, so it's
Speaker 7: been months.
Speaker 1: It has to be right, because he did lay in
Speaker 1: bed for a long time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, your face don't heal from twelve degree
Speaker 7: burns that quick.
Speaker 1: It would be.
Speaker 3: It could be. It could be the air, and that's
Speaker 3: why they worried.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a little foot. He ain't fucking spite. He
Speaker 1: ain't got no let on anyway, He ain't got got
Speaker 1: no Leverage's hilarious. That's a good question. I didn't ever
Speaker 1: think of who the baby daddy could be. Oh damn,
Speaker 1: that was the only question I had. It's like, who
Speaker 1: fucking you? Was just surprised she was I was surprised.
Speaker 1: I was just surprised she was pregnant.
Speaker 7: You know what, Now that I'm thinking about it, it
Speaker 7: would probably have to be Amens, because otherwise, why would
Speaker 7: Alison care Because the look on her face, she looked
Speaker 7: like she was scared for Helena.
Speaker 1: Because she know Rania got to kill the baby.
Speaker 7: No, what I'm saying is, if the kid is some
Speaker 7: random ass dude in the castle, then the kid doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Right, okay, kil because it's a bastard, Because it's.
Speaker 7: A bastard and it's not even the King's child, so
Speaker 7: it wouldn't even matter her. So the look that was
Speaker 7: on Alison's face would kind of imply that she's afraid
Speaker 7: for her, and she would only be afraid if it's
Speaker 7: Amen's baby. So I'm thinking there's something we're just missing
Speaker 7: or we're just fastboarding time or something.
Speaker 3: But they're gonna have to pass it off like it's
Speaker 3: the kings.
Speaker 1: Why the same reason why we're never did.
Speaker 7: But we're never had something to gain, Like there's no
Speaker 7: reason to pass it off because the thing about it
Speaker 7: is because we're near. It would be like, well, am
Speaker 7: is not even around, and I'm challenging, like, no, you
Speaker 7: was fucking somebody else, Like why would they believe that
Speaker 7: it's Amos?
Speaker 1: Amos not even in.
Speaker 7: The castle anymore, and his dick was burnt off, it
Speaker 7: has to be his, And I'm just not connecting the
Speaker 7: time correctly.
Speaker 1: So that is an interesting don't know, saying some wood elf.
Speaker 6: Because if it was a wood elf, though, they they
Speaker 6: could just like let her have birth and just send
Speaker 6: it out into the world like any one of the
Speaker 6: other bastards that we see in this story.
Speaker 1: How you're going to have a bastard wood Elf baby
Speaker 1: and city talking about.
Speaker 6: Twenty people. All the dragon writers that are from Bashlings
Speaker 6: have done it like you.
Speaker 1: Nigga ain't what else? Yeah, it ain't a squirrel. Nigga
Speaker 1: would naturally know how to be in the woods.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about I meant wood elf. I thought she
Speaker 6: just meant like a random person. I ain't think.
Speaker 1: She's talking about creature. You meant that literally. I thought
Speaker 1: you was talking about someone.
Speaker 6: To get a hang out in the wo walkers. No,
Speaker 6: I thought she was talking about something to hang Okay,
Speaker 6: I take that back. But if it is some random
Speaker 6: ass dude, that's just like he makes wards or something. Yeah,
Speaker 6: like she can have that baby just sending boy in
Speaker 6: the world. Yeah, there's some dude that live on the woods.
Speaker 1: I thought that's what the wooden. I ain't know she
Speaker 1: meant like the literal like little purple people. Oh God.
Speaker 2: We then see how violent Ranera's City Watch army is
Speaker 2: when it comes to questioning people on who was putting
Speaker 2: up the graffiti like you mentioned, Mike, But then we
Speaker 2: quickly see another mentorship meet in between Ormond and Darren,
Speaker 2: and it's where we get to the end of episode
Speaker 2: with that, Ken, what did you think of what Ormond
Speaker 2: and Darren's relationship was like at the end of this episode.
Speaker 4: Not much has change. It's just he just moved another
Speaker 4: piece on the board to give him leverage.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that.
Speaker 4: That guy would still be alive if g Wayne didn't
Speaker 4: change his mind. But I think once g Wayne said
Speaker 4: I'm packing up and going home, he had to start
Speaker 4: using him to be the rightful heir to the throne
Speaker 4: so he can kind of figure out his next move
Speaker 4: to get them back to the castle. And to do that,
Speaker 4: he has to continue to groom him in a way
Speaker 4: to be king and to think like a king. And
Speaker 4: this kid clearly didn't want to do it. He did
Speaker 4: it out of the year of Ormond and that was
Speaker 4: that was all that was. He just wanted to And yeah, so,
Speaker 4: but I don't know, man, I'm wondering when when Darren
Speaker 4: would and if it ever happens, realize that he may
Speaker 4: be in more of a position of power than he
Speaker 4: and he actually realized it may not happen because he
Speaker 4: is a kid.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this was.
Speaker 4: Really surprising, and I felt bad for that guy though,
Speaker 4: because he thought that he got out of that situation
Speaker 4: and now here he is.
Speaker 1: He was begging for his life to a snack just
Speaker 1: because too serious. He cooked that motherfucker up.
Speaker 2: Hey bron, he barbecue that nigga and now you're hear
Speaker 2: in the background he's chomping.
Speaker 1: He was missing with sweet baby raised. But nay Orman
Speaker 1: mentioned something earlier.
Speaker 2: He said, I'm fair but firm, and I felt like
Speaker 2: this was a great example. Like in the beginning or
Speaker 2: like in the middle of this episode, we see him
Speaker 2: actually like seek out his justice as far as he
Speaker 2: got the army man arm broke and his did cut off,
Speaker 2: and we think, okay, he's giving out good justice. But
Speaker 2: then this, so that was the fair part, But I
Speaker 2: feel like the firm part was this at the end
Speaker 2: where you see like but at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: he struck one of our R and P and if
Speaker 2: you hit an eye tire and you got to like
Speaker 2: that cost too, and it was a fun up way
Speaker 2: of doing it. But I felt like he was basically
Speaker 2: explaining his philosophy because he also said a lot of
Speaker 2: phlosophis shit on this, Like y'all niggas got dragons. That
Speaker 2: don't mean y'all really meant to have power. But if
Speaker 2: we work together, I can show you how to you
Speaker 2: know properly.
Speaker 1: He was also note shit, it was just like I thought.
Speaker 2: I thought his like Mike said, like, he's an interesting
Speaker 2: character because it's like he's mixing a lot of things,
Speaker 2: obviously for evil, but they're very interesting things that he's
Speaker 2: mixing when it comes to like this is how I
Speaker 2: see life and this is how I see power.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So like what did you think what I was? What
Speaker 2: was you thinking about? Like his fair but firm stance,
Speaker 2: Like did you see that in this scene?
Speaker 3: I didn't see fairness. I just saw elitism.
Speaker 5: I just thought like like, yeah, he just feels like
Speaker 5: his line is the superior line and fuck y'all dragons,
Speaker 5: And the only reason why I really give a fuck
Speaker 5: about you is because you have my blood in you
Speaker 5: and you haven't, and you're giving us an opportunity to put.
Speaker 3: The true royal blood on the throne.
Speaker 1: So it just.
Speaker 5: I will say, it made him even more of a
Speaker 5: complex villain. So it was at this point where I
Speaker 5: was like, oh, he is actually interested. I wasn't really
Speaker 5: interested in him until this last scene because of the
Speaker 5: fact that it's like he has that he feels like
Speaker 5: he has this superiority complex over.
Speaker 3: All the other royal families. So now this is when
Speaker 3: he got interesting to me.
Speaker 1: You think this is gonna turn Darren into.
Speaker 2: Like the thing that Allison doesn't want, like another bad son,
Speaker 2: or do you think based off his reaction is like
Speaker 2: like to Kid's point, eventually he's gonna learn, like, I
Speaker 2: don't really need to listen to you. You got me
Speaker 2: out here killing motherfuckers who's just defending their sisters.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I don't know. I don't have an
Speaker 1: answer for that.
Speaker 7: That's what made this scene so interesting is he's very
Speaker 7: He's clearly very sensitive.
Speaker 15: You know.
Speaker 7: He does not want to rule by force the way
Speaker 7: Ormond does. He wants to be fair. But I don't
Speaker 7: know how this is gonna work because he doesn't seem
Speaker 7: like that type of guy.
Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't. I don't think he has that.
Speaker 1: I don't think he has that dog him to be
Speaker 1: able to do something like this.
Speaker 7: So but Ormond probably knows that, Like I said, he's
Speaker 7: probably only doing this kind of thing to get him
Speaker 7: in that position so he can keep manipulating him. So
Speaker 7: this whole scene I thought was the most interesting part
Speaker 7: of the whole episode because I was like, where is
Speaker 7: this going to go? I really thought Ormond was gonna
Speaker 7: show up and just not really be that big of
Speaker 7: a thing. I thought he was just gonna show up,
Speaker 7: be the weirdo that sniff's perfume, and then just go away.
Speaker 7: But now they're setting it up to where he is
Speaker 7: like a legitimate threat to the throne, and I never
Speaker 7: considered him that way. Loud, do you feel like Ormond
Speaker 7: is like as equal or he more like more cunning
Speaker 7: and sinister than Autumn.
Speaker 1: I think he's equal, just as cunning, just as sinister.
Speaker 6: I agree with Mike and what he said, Like this
Speaker 6: scene right here was one of my favorite rest of
Speaker 6: the episode too, because it added another layer to his
Speaker 6: to his character, like, yeah, I'm manipulating his kid.
Speaker 1: Here my plans. Here are the things I'm trying to do,
Speaker 1: And it just made you wonder.
Speaker 6: Okay, like, damn, how is this gonna play out with
Speaker 6: nier High's gonna play out with dam in Hi with
Speaker 6: aiming even like there's a lot of things that go
Speaker 6: with what he's doing right now and it's it's it's interesting, Like,
Speaker 6: I'm glad that they've added a character like this to
Speaker 6: the storyline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm definitely interested in the next episode.
Speaker 2: I even funk with that dragon too. I feel like
Speaker 2: Daron got there got a really no past dragon.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but.
Speaker 2: That motherfucker looked like and listen to him for real,
Speaker 2: like he got his back and yeah, it's little now
Speaker 2: because I think he said, did he mention something when he.
Speaker 1: Was talking past the smallest dragon. That's the smallest. It's
Speaker 1: still growing though, right, Yeah, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 6: By the times. No, he ain't gonna be full grown,
Speaker 6: but that it ain't. That's the smallest dragon. I think
Speaker 6: that's the thing that's holding him up the most. As
Speaker 6: far as.
Speaker 1: What's aman, what's his name, what's what's the dude name?
Speaker 1: The hot town?
Speaker 6: There not a hot town. That's the That's the thing
Speaker 6: that's holding his planet the most. That's just a small dragon.
Speaker 6: If they were a bigger dragon, I think he'd be
Speaker 6: even more aggressive.
Speaker 1: Any of the thoughts on this.
Speaker 4: Episode figure it likes Armon either because they growl when
Speaker 4: they got closed to Darren.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he want to suck him up here, he
Speaker 1: want to fuck him up. He probably abuses him. He
Speaker 1: probably knows that mm hmmmm hm he's abusing.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Orman said, don't even name that motherfucker's I don't even
Speaker 2: like the fact that you gave the motherfucker name.
Speaker 1: Or that probably is gonna be the end of on
Speaker 1: like that dragon probably gonna suck him up mm hmm.
Speaker 7: Or he's gonna have that dragon killed once he gets
Speaker 7: what's his name and position? You know this is this
Speaker 7: is actually kind of interesting facts.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: All right, well those are our thoughts on House of
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Speaker 1: Be out peace, Nice